Welcome back to the Wild Heart Podcast with Willow Brook where we explore divinity in daily life with themes of love, mysticism, grief as a spiritual path, and sensual embodiment.

In this episode, I’m joined by married Buddhist teachers nico + devon hase who help couples face—and blossom in—the truth about long-term romance. nico lived in a monastery for six years before earning a PhD in counseling psychology and becoming a full-time Insight Meditation teacher. devon has practiced intensively in the Insight and Vajrayana traditions of meditation and teaches at Insight Meditation Society, Spirit Rock, and more. They are co-authors of How Not to Be a Hot Mess and their new book This Messy Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist Guide to Lasting Partnership coming out April 14th, 2026. In their community Refuge of Belonging, they support the living Buddhist traditions in ways that feel accessible, inclusive, and deeply relevant to our complex times. For more, visit devonandnicohase.com

Preorder their book here: This Messy Gorgeous Love: A Buddhist Guide to Lasting Partnership

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Holy Lament: The Transformative Path of Loss & Longing with Mirabai Starr

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Links:

Connect with devon & nico: devonandnicohase.com

IG: @devonandnicohase

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IG ⁠@willow__brook⁠

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Connect with Mirabai: ⁠mirabaistarr.com⁠

IG: ⁠@mirabaistarr⁠

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