Previous guest, Lisa McSherry, joined me to talk about the pagan classic, Ted Andrew's Animal Speak. Despite a million copies being sold and Ted Andrews being on the wall of fame at Llewellyn, I had never read it. We talked about Andrews's book in context of writing, how things have changed in the occult publishing world since the not great original cover of Animal Speak, and Andrews's work in context of Lisa's own. And, of course, we talked a lot about traveling and her new book A Traveler's Guide to Making Magic.

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