We always ask this question: can you imagine your life without the Beatles?

Today's guest definitely can't.

Jacob Jeffries is a member of Vulfpeck, Jack Stratton's collaborator in Vulfmon, and is about to release a solo album in September, made at Theo Katzman's cabin studio.

As co-writer and performer on many of the above projects, he's right at the heart of one of the most powerful musical networks of the century so far. And it's fair to say, he's also a bit of a Beatles' fan.

Des Burkinshaw and Mark Hooper discuss all these projects, as well as musical theatre and inter-generational influence with Jacob.

We'd like nothing more than to have included a few snippets of music in the programme to illustrate everything, but then we'd have gotten copyright strikes etc, a good example of how the record companies, publishers and even platforms, are ruining the experience for fans. Instead, tediously, when you have finished listening to this fascinating interview, come back here and explore this fantastic world of music through these links.

Don't forget to visit our website, withoutthebeatles.com for all the usual stuff. The audio version of this goes out on all the usual networks.

Here's our favourite collaboration between Jack Stratton and Jacob.

https://youtu.be/Akaa9xHaw7E?si=iUqj7f6NwsNI4BDd

Here's Jacob with Vulfpeck singing his song, Big Dipper.

https://youtu.be/QEah75Oyv8c?si=gtIvsvQwrOd5E-55

You'll love this. Red Cardinal from Jacob's new album, You Got The Right Idea.

https://youtu.be/q-j1DMrPRUU?si=k2gQDtOiek2iSw0T

Here's Jacob, Jack Stratton and Harrison Whitford, channelling their inner Beatles and Byrds.

https://youtu.be/1aQpedzFOHA?si=1FRVRfdQ-chf9Rov

Mark mentions Jacob's cover of I am the Walrus.

https://youtu.be/7xGKx09S524?si=VQpOj_95LQtwczRb

Both Des and Mark discovered this whole world during Covid watching the Vulfpeck Live at Madison Square Gardens footage. Neither of us knew who Vulfpeck were, but both of us watched the whole thing anyway. It's that entertaining.

https://youtu.be/rv4wf7bzfFE?si=zpw4VE-NBcbWtUy1

Jacob's album isn't out until September, but here's another track from it, Steady. Nick Nagurka Holden's mic choices paying off here. So warm.

https://youtu.be/SP3_qq2sP9Y?si=RMhEeFeI4PutrIKh

We have pushed you down the rabbit hole. Now off you go to Wonderland.

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