
In 1995, the British Band Oasis released one of their biggest hits as a single from their number one album: (What’s the Story) Morning Glory. The song Wonderwall was a departure from their usual music, but it has gone on to be one of their most...
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Tim O'Callaghan
Hello and welcome to Witness History from the BBC World Service with me, Tim o'. Callaghan. Feel free to skip ahead a bit if you're already one of our regular listeners, but if you're new here, welcome along. We bring you moments from History with the people who are there to see it every weekday. Episodes are just nine minutes long, so if that sounds like something you'd enjoy, please subscribe and turn on your push notifications for wherever you get your BBC podcasts so you never miss an episode. In October 1995, one of the best selling albums in UK music history was released. Oasis. What's the Story? Morning Glory included a number of the band's biggest hits, but there was one song on there that would become ubiquitous in pub performances and a karaoke favorite, Wonderwall. Oh, I'm not going to play it yet. I can only use 30 seconds because of rights reasons, so you'll have to wait for that bit.
Nick Bryan
I mean, obviously I work with hundreds of bands each year and they all want to know about it. You know, they all want to talk about it, they want to talk about Oasis, they all want to know about Liam. So yeah, I talk about it a lot.
Tim O'Callaghan
Nick Bryan was the sound engineer who worked on Oasis album at the legendary Rockfield Studios in Wales when he was just 18 years old.
Nick Bryan
To be that age and on an album of that magnitude of a band who are doing amazing things, just incredible, just hearing songs like Wonderwall, like Champagne Supernova, coming back stupidly loud through the speakers, you were just like, this is something else. This is, you know, gonna change everyone's lives and music, really.
Tim O'Callaghan
Oasis had formed in Manchester in Northern England in the early 1990s with brothers Noel and Liam Gallagher at the center. For the most part, Noel wrote the songs and played lead guitar and Liam was the band's lead singer and frontman. They had rocketed to success in 1994 when their album Definitely maybe became the fastest selling debut album in UK history, going straight to number one. But things were not harmonious between the brothers. During a performance in Los Angeles in 1994, Liam threw a tambourine at Noel on stage, causing him to storm off and temporarily quit the band. But in the summer of 1995, they were back together and ready to make their second album.
Nick Bryan
Noel would play a few. At the start, that was the first time I'd kind of heard anything from that album. He'd kind of pick up an acoustic and say, oh, we're gonna do this one and we'll start with this one. Started to roll with It. So he'd play that on acoustic. There were no demos as such. It was all just Noel sat in the control room with an acoustic.
Tim O'Callaghan
Owen Morris was the album's producer. He spoke to the BBC about making the record in 2007.
Owen Morris
It was fantastic and really easy. I mean, we recorded and finished in that week. Hello, Roll With It, Wonderwall, Donald Back In Anger and Champagne Supernova.
Tim O'Callaghan
And if you aren't an Oasis fan, those are some of the band's biggest hits.
Owen Morris
It was very, very creative week. It was great. We were getting on well then and everyone was on the same page and everybody wanted to be there.
Nick Bryan
Yeah, there was like a routine. We would get up in the morning and set up for the track. I'd get all the sounds going and then get ready to go. And then Noel would put the guides down and then we just built the track up. So by the evening it was ready for Liam to do the vocals on and he would come in. Not that many takes and by the end of the day, this track would exist, this piece of art that, you know, very quickly came together and that was. That was the routine. The next day onto the next song, the next day onto the next song. And it was just one after another. They were just on a roll at that point.
Tim O'Callaghan
Oasis songs were typically what you would describe as indie rock music, but the song Wonderwall was a departure from that, with a much more acoustic tone, was
Nick Bryan
an odd song for them at the time. And when he first played it, you know, there was kind of a bit of what's this kind of thing about it? You know, Liam called it the reggae song. As it developed, you realize that this was just an amazing song. Yeah, it wasn't very Oasis like, compared to what they'd done before, but it was just a great song. And I think once. Once the vocal was on there and the vocals really loud in the mix and it's. It's got just that sing along kind of thing about it.
Tim O'Callaghan
To record Wonderwall, Noel and Owen decided to do part of the recording outside on an actual wall.
Nick Bryan
There's this wall that happens to be out right outside the studio. And Owen Morris said, well, you should record it on the wall. That's the Wonder Wall right there. So up he went. So I had to get my step ladder and I put him up on the wall. He sat on a chair on the wall as well. And then I set the microphones up. We recorded it. Yeah, on the wall. So that was the original guy. Tracks for the song were all done up there. So you can hear at the start of the album, you can hear the birds and the kind of atmosphere that's all flown in from the outtakes of wonderwar from Noel sat on top of the wall there.
Tim O'Callaghan
But what was the inspiration for the song? Well, maybe because of lyrics like, you're going to be the one that saves me. The rumour at the time was that it was about Noel's then girlfriend, Meg Matthews, something he denied years later to the BBC.
Noel Gallagher
The meaning of that song was taken away from me by the media, who jumped on it and said, it's about Meg, innit? And I was like, well, you tell your missus that it's not about her once she's read it is, you know. So that went on and it's. It's a song about an imaginary friend who's gonna come and save you from yourself.
Tim O'Callaghan
The song was named after the psychedelic 1968 film of the same name, for which George Harrison of the Beatles wrote the soundtrack. Everything was going so well with recording the album. Until it wasn't.
BBC News Reporter
Noel Gallagher has stormed out of recording sessions with Oasis in Wales, following another punch up with brother Liam. Noel made his way back to London following the fight which happened last week. Insiders at the studio work sort of
Noel Gallagher
15 hours a day, and because the rest of them sort of put their stuff on last, they just tended to go down the pub. But one night they brought half of South Wales back with them and there was all these sort of kids running around the grounds of the studio and somebody smashed a window in the studio and all the rest of it got a bit out of order.
Tim O'Callaghan
Liam's side of the story was he
Liam Gallagher
had a row with me about his ignorance towards people who he don't know. And I told someone to shut up and walk home because he asked him for another taxi. And that person was my mate. And I said, yeah, I don't talk to people like that. I know, because you don't know because I'll slap you all down, Miles. So we had a fight and that was it.
Nick Bryan
So, yeah, the big fight happened and I'm trying my best to lock the studio up, get everyone out of there and kind of clean up and all that. And it's all kicking off and it's all going off on the lawn, which is the Rockfield Battlefield. And, yeah, it was a pretty epic fight, really, at that point.
Tim O'Callaghan
Nick worried that all the work on songs like Wonderwall would go to waste.
Nick Bryan
Because I remember, like, Owen getting up in the morning, he'd slept through the whole thing. So I Had no idea what had happened. And then he came in and asked where everybody was and what's gone on here. And I kind of explained to him and I said, they've gone, you know, that's it, I think it's over. Yeah, there was that worry, there was that one point. We thought, well, that's it, the band's finished. This is never going to see the light of day. That's very short career. They made one great album.
Tim O'Callaghan
But a week later the brothers had made up and they were back at Rockfield to finish the album, which goes straight to number one on its release in October 1995.
Nick Bryan
Well, all of a sudden you become that guy who's involved in that, you know, there's a very small amount of people involved in that, you know, privileged to be involved in it, because I was a big fan of definitely maybe, and all my mates were as well. Then all of a sudden, to all my mates, I'm this guy, I'm involved in it and I'm in the mix. I'm in the middle of. Right in the middle of the storm, you know, and I mean, it's great. You can't ask to experience better things than that, really, at the start of your career.
Tim O'Callaghan
Wonderwall was released as a single at the end of October 1995, but amazingly it only went to number two in the UK, although it did top charts in Australia and New Zealand and was a top 10 hit in 15 countries. It has since gone on to become the band's best selling and most streamed song and has become an anthem for the British public, including for England football fans and players. With the likes of Harry Kane and Jude Bellingham belting out the song on the pitch after World cup matches, Nick isn't surprised that the song still resonates with the British public.
Nick Bryan
The lyrics are easy, the melody is easy, but it does just, yeah, mean so much to people and kind of defines the band, doesn't it really? Wherever they go, it's the one song everyone always asks about. And wherever you go in the world, everybody knows. It just took on a life of its own. But when we, when we first doing it, did we think that? Probably not, but you know, the label convinced it was a single and then that became a single and the rest is history.
Tim O'Callaghan
Anyway, to finish off, here's Wonderwall. Nick Bryan was the sound engineer who worked on Oasis recording of Wonderwall and what's the Story Morning Glory? He now owns his own independent record label and continues to work as a sound engineer and music producer. He was Speaking to me, Tim o' Callaghan for Witness History from the BBC World Service. Thank you for listening. If you like this one, then there are some others in our archive that you might enjoy, including John Lennon's final headline concert, Wham. In China and the birth of karaoke. Just search for those episodes in the Witness History feedback wherever you get your BBC podcasts. And if you want more on the story of Oasis, just look for the BBC podcast the Rise and Fall of Oasis wherever you get your podcasts. Bye.
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BBC World Service – July 6, 2026
Host: Tim O’Callaghan
Key Guest: Nick Bryan (Sound Engineer on “(What’s the Story) Morning Glory?”)
Feature: Archival clips with Noel and Liam Gallagher; Owen Morris (producer)
This episode of Witness History offers an insider’s look at the creation of “Wonderwall,” Oasis’s most enduring hit. Through first-hand memories from sound engineer Nick Bryan and album producer Owen Morris, interwoven with original commentary from Noel and Liam Gallagher, the episode traces the song’s origin, the sibling tensions that nearly derailed the album, and the meteoric impact “Wonderwall” would ultimately have in Britain and around the world.
[01:16–02:21]
[02:21–03:35]
Nick Bryan recounts entering Rockfield Studios at just 18 to engineer the album:
Owen Morris reflects (via a 2007 BBC interview):
"It was fantastic and really easy. I mean, we recorded and finished in that week. Hello, Roll With It, Wonderwall, Don’t Look Back In Anger and Champagne Supernova." [02:44]
[03:35–04:48]
Wonderwall marked a sonic departure for Oasis—more acoustic, less typical of their earlier rock anthems.
The unique recording story:
“We recorded it, yeah, on the wall... You can hear at the start of the album, you can hear the birds and the kind of atmosphere that's all flown in from the outtakes of Wonderwall from Noel sat on top of the wall there.” — Nick Bryan [04:18]
[04:48–05:17]
Persistent rumors claimed “Wonderwall” was about Noel’s girlfriend, Meg Matthews.
“The meaning of that song was taken away from me by the media… It's a song about an imaginary friend who's gonna come and save you from yourself.” — Noel Gallagher [05:02]
The title comes from the 1968 George Harrison-scored film Wonderwall.
[05:33–06:42]
The album’s production nearly collapses after a now-legendary fight between the Gallagher brothers.
“There was... kids running around the grounds of the studio and somebody smashed a window... got a bit out of order.” — Noel Gallagher [05:47]
Liam’s take:
“He had a row with me about his ignorance towards people who he don't know... we had a fight and that was it.” — Liam Gallagher [06:06]
Bryan’s view of the chaos:
“I’m trying my best to lock the studio up, get everyone out of there... it was a pretty epic fight, really, at that point.” [06:21]
For a moment, staff thought the album—and Oasis itself—was over:
“We thought, well, that's it, the band's finished. This is never going to see the light of day.” — Nick Bryan [06:42]
[07:04–08:32]
The brothers reconciled and completed the album, which went straight to #1 upon release.
“Wonderwall” only reached #2 in the UK, but was a hit elsewhere (Australia, New Zealand) and eventually became Oasis’s most streamed and most beloved track.
The song's cultural reach is enormous, sung by footballers (citing Harry Kane and Jude Bellingham after World Cup matches) and fans worldwide.
“The lyrics are easy, the melody is easy... it just took on a life of its own.” — Nick Bryan [08:09]
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Description | |-----------|---------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:16 | Nick Bryan | “...just hearing songs like Wonderwall, like Champagne Supernova, coming back stupidly loud through the speakers... you were just like, this is something else. This is... gonna change everyone’s lives and music, really.” | | 03:45 | Nick Bryan | “Liam called it the reggae song. As it developed, you realize that this was just an amazing song.” | | 04:18 | Nick Bryan | [On recording on the wall] “...set the microphones up. We recorded it, yeah, on the wall. So that was the original guy.” | | 05:02 | Noel Gallagher | “It’s a song about an imaginary friend who's gonna come and save you from yourself.” | | 06:21 | Nick Bryan | “...it was a pretty epic fight, really, at that point.” | | 07:13 | Nick Bryan | “...to all my mates, I’m this guy, I’m involved in it and I’m in the mix. I’m in the middle of... Right in the middle of the storm, you know...” | | 08:09 | Nick Bryan | “The lyrics are easy, the melody is easy... it just took on a life of its own.” |
The episode maintains a conversational, reflective tone, weaving nostalgia, humor, and genuine awe about the cultural explosion that “Wonderwall” would become. Nick Bryan’s youthful excitement, paired with the Gallaghers’ blunt authenticity, makes for a raw yet affectionate look at both the chaos and the magic of creative work.
The Making of Oasis’ “Wonderwall” immerses the listener in the pivotal week when one of the world’s most recognizable songs was born. Through candid recollections from those who were there, the episode captures both the musical innovation and the volatile, combustible energy of Oasis at their peak. Even as legendary sibling rows threatened to end it all, “Wonderwall” survived—becoming not just a hit, but an anthem forever tied to British identity and communal experience.