[Don't let the length of this podcast be daunting. You won't want to miss any of it!]

Kathy talks with Joana P.R. Neves, writer, visual arts curator, and host of Exhibitionistas podcast, about the art of sarcasm and how sarcasm is portrayed through art.

They dive deep into their own sarcastic nature - why and when they are sarcastic, how others are affected by sarcasm, and the difference between irony and sarcasm. Joana shares how she unknowingly experienced British sarcasm and educates Kathy on what the word polymath means.

Tune in and learn how sarcasm is social activism, people who are sarcastic don't emote much, and how sarcastic people are comfortable being in discomfort.

The conversation goes from sarcasm as art to art being sarcastic. Kathy and Joana discuss whether art needs to be understood and what the saying "steal like an artist" means to them. Be sure to listen to the end of the episode to learn how Joana is going to become an influencer because of a word she created during the conversation!

This is one conversation you don't want to miss (and you may want to take water breaks throughout to stay hydrated from laughing so much)!

Listen to Exhibitionistas and follow Joana P.R. Neves on Instagram.

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Show music provided by Drrrakhan.