
Rachel and Irene welcome fabulous drag queen Bianca del Rio (winner of RuPaul's Drag Race Season 6)! They dive into hilarious ghost stories, including Bianca's “haunted" furniture mishap in Palm Springs, Irene's spectral romance on Staten Island, and tales of New Orleans' creepy charm. Plus, get the scoop on Bianca's upcoming New York theater debut with Matthew Broderick. Don't miss this episode packed with paranormal laughs and drag queen wit!
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Welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch, the podcast that explores the unexplained with humor and curiosity.
Rachel Dratch
Hello and welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch, here with my pal and co host, Irene Bremis. Hi, Irene.
Irene Bremis
Hello, sweetie.
Rachel Dratch
Irene. Today we have somebody very fun. I mean, no pressure to be fun, but I'm assuming that they will be. Anyways, a dear pal of mine from way back when, winner of the season six RuPaul's Drag Race, please welcome Bianca Del Rio.
Irene Bremis
Hey, hey, Bianca.
Bianca Del Rio
That's the woo sound. I guess I'm a ghost.
Rachel Dratch
I have to tell you something funny. Even though you should have been in my roster to ask to be a guest somebody, one of our little listener comments said you should have Bianca on as well as RuPaul because RuPaul actually saw a ghost, which I've heard RuPaul discussed. But anyway, that's a sidebar. But you were fan requested and of course Dratch requested.
Bianca Del Rio
Let me break it to you. I was that fam. I was the one who wrote the comments. It's my burner account. I said, she's not returning my text. She's not returning my calls. I knew her when. So I said, let me say, oh, I've seen a ghost. Look, here we are. Here we are.
Rachel Dratch
Amazing. So Bianca, as I guess I'll call you in this. Bianca.
Irene Bremis
Bianca.
Rachel Dratch
So I met you doing the movie that I sometimes get approached about on the street for people to say I saw you in. And I'm always surprised Hurricane Bianca is when I first met you. Right.
Bianca Del Rio
Yes.
Rachel Dratch
Your co star and your evil. The. What was I? What am I? The antagonist.
Bianca Del Rio
The antagonist. Yes.
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Rachel Dratch
To your protagonist.
Bianca Del Rio
Well, you know, the fun thing about getting to meet you is of course, I was a super fan for many years. And then Matt Kugelman, who had written the film, had Sent me a text and said, what do you think about Rachel Dratch? And it was that weird moment where I thought, what do you mean, what do I think about her? Like, you know, like. Like, you never know coming from a gay man. You're like, what do you mean, I have no thoughts about Rachel? And he said, I don't know, that it might work out for her to get to do this. And I'm like, oh, fuck, yes. Because she's fucking funny. And Irene, I mean, you've been friends with this.
Irene Bremis
Oh, for a long time. I love her.
Bianca Del Rio
Yes.
Irene Bremis
Yes. I have been friends with this bitch for a long time. It's true. And she's funny as shit.
Bianca Del Rio
Yes, funny as shit. But like, also, like, totally normal. You know, you never know what to expect when you meet people. And not that I thought that she'd be whipping out jokes or this. This or this.
Irene Bremis
Yeah.
Bianca Del Rio
But God damn it, when we start cackling, you can't stop. Like, everything is funny.
Irene Bremis
You know, Bianca, you're right. Rachel doesn't feel the need to be on, but she's hilarious. You know what I mean? That's exactly what it is.
Rachel Dratch
You guys, I'm right here. I can hear you.
Irene Bremis
You're in the zoo. You're in the zoom. You're in the zoom, sweetie.
Bianca Del Rio
Can you see us? Because I'm a ghost. Can you see you? Okay, I love.
Rachel Dratch
You're gonna keep making this Woo woo. I don't even know if you have any woo woo stories, but we'll get to that. But no, I'm not. Yeah, but we met on Hurricane Bianca. We shot that in Texas in a hot summer, if I recall.
Bianca Del Rio
We did.
Rachel Dratch
And we were shooting mainly in a high school there. And I remember you and I at some point, as I often do, but not with just anyone, but you and I would get the giggles over certain lines, but there was one line that I couldn't get through, and it was always. It was, I don't have time for this. And I don't know why that made us laugh, but under the circumstances.
Bianca Del Rio
Under the circumstances, it was fun. It was so much fun. And she made me cackle. And there's moments where I'm not even near her, and she would just say something, and I don't know what it was. It wasn't even what she was saying. It's how she said it that just made me piss myself. So the bloopers are endless. Probably. The bloopers are endless. Yes.
Rachel Dratch
And we even did Hurricane Bianca, too.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah, we did.
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Rachel Dratch
Yes. Oh, yes, we did.
Irene Bremis
I didn't realize. I saw the first one. I loved it.
Rachel Dratch
Well, part of that was shot in a defunct prison in Newark, New Jersey. So if you ever had a glamorous. No more glamorous place to shoot something than an old prison. That looked very haunted, by the way. I mean, that was creepy.
Bianca Del Rio
It did look haunted.
Rachel Dratch
That was creepy.
Bianca Del Rio
It was very creepy. And you had that scene with Wanda Sykes there. So that's. Y' all filmed on that day that I wasn't in that scene. But, yeah, that wild, wild, wild, spooky place.
Rachel Dratch
Yes, very spooky. So are you on tour right now?
Bianca Del Rio
No, I'm actually on break, which never happens. So I just finished last December. I finished. I'd been around the world. It was like 129 shows, and I don't know how many countries we'd been around. So I get a little break. And then in the little break, I get to do those fun vanity things, you know, like Hurricane Bianca or anything else that I have going on. I'm not doing one right now. But usually you get to do those things as I say, the things that don't make money. So you get to go and do the fun stuff that you love. So I'm kind of in between, and I'm about to start this fall. I get to do Tartuffe in New York City with Matthew Broderick, David Cross, Amber Gray and Frances Ju. So I'm quite excited to get to do that. But the. The tricky thing about it is I have to play. Now, Rachel and Irene, if you can envision this. I have to play an old, bitter, gossipy bitch. I don't know. Don't know where I'm gonna pull it from, Stretch. Exactly. But I'm gonna find my way to do it. I'm gonna find my way to do it.
Rachel Dratch
Wait, this is so exciting. Now you're reminding me that I read about this. The New York Theater Workshop, right?
Bianca Del Rio
Yes, yes, yes.
Rachel Dratch
And you're with these big wigs. Big wig yourself, by the way.
Bianca Del Rio
Well, a wig.
Rachel Dratch
That's so exciting.
Bianca Del Rio
No, I'm truly. I'm truly excited. And it's one of those things, you know, when your agent calls you and they say, hey, they thought of you. And I'm like, do it. Yes, fine. Sign me up. Tell me later. I'll figure it out. You know, But I have been telling people. I'm like, you know, Matthew Broderick called, you know, and just says, I need you. You know, and you gotta say, yes. You gotta say that.
Rachel Dratch
It's very cool.
Bianca Del Rio
I only met the man once.
Rachel Dratch
But when does that start? Because Irene and I will go.
Irene Bremis
We're there, sweetie. We're there.
Rachel Dratch
Okay.
Bianca Del Rio
It's this fall. I don't have specifics yet, but I want to say it's November, I think.
Rachel Dratch
Okay. Irene and I are there.
Irene Bremis
Yes, we're there.
Bianca Del Rio
Got it.
Rachel Dratch
Irene, we have a lot of things to see with what we do.
Bianca Del Rio
We do.
Rachel Dratch
But I really am.
Irene Bremis
But this just got to the top.
Rachel Dratch
This was at the top, number one. I need to see you in your high cultural moment when you're saying your line whispers, dratch taught me everything I know.
Irene Bremis
Yes, that's right. Yes.
Bianca Del Rio
Okay, so.
Rachel Dratch
So you grew up in New Orleans, right?
Bianca Del Rio
Yes.
Rachel Dratch
And that's a spooky place, right? So I'm told it is.
Bianca Del Rio
And you know, well, I haven't realized until I've gotten older now is that I have to be specific because I used to say, you know, I'm from Louisiana or whatever, and you and Louisiana is compartmentalized into some crazy areas. And as you know, Louisiana votes red, but New Orleans itself is its own little world. So I have to be specific because my assistant is country. He's, like, from nowhere, and he wrote an alligator to school, so it's a different world for him. So I have to specify New Orleans itself. So it's deep in culture, deep in food. Everybody there is slow as hell, and they make a shit ton of money off of ghosts. Everything is haunted there because it's one of the oldest cities in the country, you know, with voodoo and Marie Laveau and all of this. It's a wild, spooky, spooky, spooky place.
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Irene Bremis
Field trip, sweetie.
Bianca Del Rio
Yes.
Rachel Dratch
Those cemeteries that are above ground, right?
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah. Well. Well, we're below sea level, so is it even really ground? I mean, that was so crazy, is that we have no underground. We're water. We're literally on top of water. So they build everything above. And so you could take a haunted cemetery tour and go around and find out. And also, sometimes during hurricanes, when it floods, the bodies float out amongst the people into the world. Like, you could go down the highway and there'll be a coffin floating because of them coming out of the ground. Whoa.
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Bianca Del Rio
That's where I'm from. Woo. Wow.
Irene Bremis
I hope that never happens on Staten island because there's a lot of bodies that are headed.
Rachel Dratch
That's where Irene lives.
Irene Bremis
That's where I live.
Rachel Dratch
Yeah, Irene does live on Staten Island.
Irene Bremis
I really do. Sad for me. No, not at all about My stage.
Rachel Dratch
By marriage.
Irene Bremis
By penis. By penis, sweetie.
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Rachel Dratch
She went there.
Bianca Del Rio
She did. I get it. I get it. You do what you got to do, honey. Yep.
Rachel Dratch
I've never heard you say that. Okay.
Irene Bremis
You bring it out on me. You bring it out in me.
Bianca Del Rio
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Rachel Dratch
Okay, so have you ever had any sort of. No, you don't have to. It's not a requirement. But have you ever had any sort of woo woo experiences on your own?
Bianca Del Rio
Okay, well, there's one woo woo thing and it's weird. So I was driving on the road and I was coming back to America and I was going to buy a house. And this was right before the pandemic hit. And I had eight weeks off. I was gonna buy a house and get my tonsils out. So I'm like, yes, I'm gonna do this. So I decided to live in Palm Springs. Cause as I said, it's cheaper than Plastic Sur. Get around some old ugly people and you look great. I got a house in Palm Springs that I loved. And I didn't realize, you know, I didn't have anything to furnish the house with, you know, because it's like an adult home. You know, I was in my 40s, so my IKEA bookshelves didn't make it the last move. I thought, well, here it is. Here is my big moment. Now the world is falling apart. You know, there's nothing going on in the world, but still, I need to decorate. So I was like, okay. You know what I mean?
Rachel Dratch
Yes, yes.
Irene Bremis
Space needs to be happy.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah. It's like you're coughing and dust. Yeah.
Rachel Dratch
We need these creature comforts to get us through. Yes.
Bianca Del Rio
And also, you know, people were coughing and dying, but I needed a sofa, so I was at home.
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Rachel Dratch
Oh, sorry, you meant like pandemic world falling.
Irene Bremis
Yeah. Right.
Rachel Dratch
Not like current situations.
Bianca Del Rio
No, no, not current.
Rachel Dratch
Okay, Gotcha, gotcha.
Irene Bremis
There isn't any piece of furniture that's gonna make this happy, sweetie. But yes, during the pandemic.
Bianca Del Rio
Understand? Five years. So it's five years ago, during the actual pandemic. The original. The OG Pandemic. Okay. And I. I needed furniture, so I was ordering everything online. And this is. They. They don't sponsor me. But Wayfair was pretty amazing. They still existed at the time they were sending stuff to me, and I got all this furniture that was coming in. And I got, you know, what I called my pandemic furniture. It got me through. So I consider. I mean, literally, I had no couch, no nothing. So things were coming in, by the way. Then I had bought these two little. I don't know what you want to call it, like, side sofa tables that went on either side of my door that I thought, okay, this works with the aesthetic. They're good. They were $200 a piece. So I bought them, and they came to the house. And then I put them together, and there was a plaque, like a name brand, you know, like a design of, like, Johnson, not Johnson and Johnson, but some shit like that is on the plaque on the side of it. And I'm like, well, I didn't like this. And it's probably permanently adhered to the dam furniture. So I'm just going to turn the table and put the plaque against the wall. Okay. So they were both against those. You don't see the plaque. It's pleasant when you come in on the two end tables. Now cut to about three weeks later. I come in and one of the labels is facing outside. And I'm like, what the fuck? What the fuck? Now, granted, we're not really going out, meeting anybody. But there's a select few people. My neighbors live across the street. They're snowbirds. They live in Canada. And they come out every now and then. And they were here, obvious during the pandemic. So I'm out on the street with my mask, talking to her. I call her caftan lady, cause she always wears the caftan. And she was selling him at one point. Long story. Anyway, she says to me, she said. I said, you know, it's weird. I said, I live alone, and I bought these tables, and now this table. And she's like, oh, well, you know, that man died in your house. Which of course, got me like, well, now you tell me, like, what the fuck. She says, yeah, that man died in your house. And I was like, oh, my God. So in my head, I'm going, it's this man. It's this man talking to me. So I put the tables back, let it go. About two months later, there they are facing me the other way. And I'm going, this is fucking spooky. So I call up my assistant, the alligator rider, and I said, this is wild. I said, I didn't mention this to you before because you're going to think I'm crazy. And you're going to say, you're making this shit up. You're nuts. And I'm like, but the tables. He's like, what are you talking about? I said, there's a label on the tables that I don't like that I face the wall. It's done this before. And now they're both facing this way. And he's like, that's some spooky shit. So he's now spooked, and I'm thinking, what could this possibly be? Come to find out, it was the cleaning lady. She was moving the tables behind it and turning around so there was no ghost. But I thought for a hot minute, the man that died is going, get out of my house, faggot. Get out of my house. Only one gay can live here. That was literally like two months of my life. I'm like, I gotta figure this out. Something's going on in my house.
Rachel Dratch
But okay, this is the best story that has a scientific explanation because we are always willing to go with the ghost. You know, Like, I truly thought this was a ghost story. Me too. But I love that because we like to keep one foot in skepticism. I love that this is like proof positive that, hey, it's not always a ghost. Sometimes it's just the cleaning lady. It's the cleaning lady.
Irene Bremis
This is the best anti ghost story we've ever gotten. I don't think we've ever had one before.
Bianca Del Rio
And to be real. And I'm not gonna say, I guess I'm admitting it now. I wanted it to be a ghost. Like, I wanted it to be the house with the story and go, we're here. He's spooking me. But it's not. But the thing that got me was Captain lady who said, oh, yeah, someone died in there. Now that opened up a whole new world.
Irene Bremis
That threw my scent off there. That was good, sweetie, because I was thinking the whole time, was there somebody in your house that could do it? But the minute you said somebody died in there, you're good.
Bianca Del Rio
Well, think about this. It's Palm Springs, a gay that died 25 years ago, and he's going, I don't like the tables. And then could you see me in the middle of the night with a nightgown, explaining to the ghost going, it's Wayfair. It's all I can get. It's a pandemic. You're dead. You don't know what this is like, but that's what I was experiencing.
Rachel Dratch
Oh, my gosh. Well, also, I love the creepy way she's like, so someone died in there. Because odds are, most places we live, someone may have died in there.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah.
Irene Bremis
Especially in palm springs. Everybody's 101. Are you kidding me?
Bianca Del Rio
So is the weather. Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. But it truly, it just opened up my mind because it was the one time. You know how everybody tells you a story about a ghost or they've experienced something and you're kind of like, yeah, yeah, this bitch is full of it. And then you experience something like that for a good two months? I could not understand how it was happening, you know? And like I said, my assistant's not smart enough to play a joke like that. So I was like, it's not him. He doesn't care about the fucking table. He's basically straight, you know, no sense of anything. So he wouldn't have noticed. He doesn't notice this thing. And I just thought, wow, something's really fucking with me. And no one was coming over. I'm meeting the captain lady. With the exception of the clean lady, who would come in and clean. So come to find out, at least she's doing her job. At least she's moving the shit to get behind it. So I have to thank her for that. Spooky, spooky.
Rachel Dratch
So how did you find out it was her? Did you ask her? Point.
Bianca Del Rio
Well, it came together when she rang the doorbell and she came in and I was like, wait a minute. Because usually when she comes in, you try to stay out of their way, you know, and especially during COVID you're like, you go do your thing. And I was just like, wait, wait. And then I saw the tables pulled out and she's cleaning behind it. And I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I couldn't wait for her to leave so I can get on the phone and go, girl, it's not a ghost. It's just buddy seller. Yeah. So that was it. So Maricela was my ghost in the house.
Rachel Dratch
All right, well, that was a good. That's not the kind of story we usually get on here, but I love it because of that. I love it.
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Rachel Dratch
Irene, what do you have to say to that?
Irene Bremis
Well, I mean, listen, I have to say to that that you're lucky she's not talking to you because there's a Greek. I'm Greek. And they speak to you. You might be next. That's what the Greeks do. So, yeah, it's really horrible. They're dark, horrifying cultural people. Yes. So, you know, the fact that she's not speaking means it's not your time.
Bianca Del Rio
So let's. Okay, let's.
Irene Bremis
You know, that's. That's. That's a very positive thing, I think. But, yes, she could be suspended in some. In some. Listen, I. We have talked, right, Rachi? We've talked about how dreams are a way that they communicate with you. A lot of spirits communicate.
Bianca Del Rio
We.
Irene Bremis
I believe I've.
Bianca Del Rio
Been.
Rachel Dratch
Well, I mean, also, like, filing this under cleaning lady. Like, it's possible that you just had a dream about her. Yeah, right.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah.
Rachel Dratch
Even though we all want the signs.
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Bianca Del Rio
Well, I do want the signs. I want that story to go. Girl, she was talking to me. She told me what it's like. Like, you know, and it's that thing in my head. Like, I think you can kind of fall into some trance of crazy if you actually sit there and think about it, you know, Because I do live alone, so if it gets too quiet, my brain goes, is it this? Is it that? Ooh, the pool light went off. You know, what could that be? But I've never. In my younger years, I never wanted it to be a ghost. But now I'm kind of like, it'd be best to date a ghost. It'd be best to be in a relationship with a ghost.
Irene Bremis
Yes.
Bianca Del Rio
I think it. You know, if they ghost you, it's not spooky, but I think it would be the thing to have. I would love to have that connection with a ghost of some sort, whether it be good or bad. You know, I'm not looking to get scared. I mean, I wouldn't mind a little entity action.
Irene Bremis
I know. I've seen that movie.
Rachel Dratch
You've seen that bitch Irene says she had sexual relations with a ghost once, which came out in a episode. She really buried the leaf.
Bianca Del Rio
Okay, wait a minute.
Rachel Dratch
Sexual relationship, Irene? Well, because I couldn't remember if it was consensual or not with the ghost, so I didn't want to overstate it.
Irene Bremis
Crack me up, sweetie. You crack me up.
Bianca Del Rio
The question is, Irene, you had a ghost that had sex with you, and you still chose Staten Island. I don't understand this. You could have been on every talk show. A multimillionaire.
Irene Bremis
I really could have. I know. I don't know what I was thinking, honestly. You know, but maybe there's still a chance. You know what I mean? The ghost has left me. The ghost? Like you just said, that was a one time. That was a one time thing. That was a one night stand. I mean, that's. That's pretty sad that I got dumped by a ghost even, because it was like, maybe once, but. But it really felt real. I was telling Rachel this. It didn't feel. Let's not. I'm not going to hijack my. My entity stories.
Bianca Del Rio
No, but I'm fascinated because. Is it someone you knew or was it just a ghost?
Irene Bremis
No, it just. It was just a ghost. And I woke up and I was like. That was like the greatest.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah.
Irene Bremis
Sex I've ever had in my life. That's what I thought.
Bianca Del Rio
Was it a handsome ghost?
Rachel Dratch
Okay.
Irene Bremis
Well, I mean, I really didn't see the ghost face. I just felt the ghost. You know what I mean? Like, felt.
Rachel Dratch
Oh, ghost peen.
Irene Bremis
Yeah. Yeah, it was ghost peen. It was ghost peen. It was just right. You know what I mean?
Rachel Dratch
The ghost didn't need a face at that point.
Bianca Del Rio
No.
Irene Bremis
Who needs a face? We still don't really need a face. Right? This was beautiful. I didn't have to. There was nothing attached to it except for the ghost peen. Thank you.
Bianca Del Rio
I am fascinated by this.
Rachel Dratch
I feel like every time I make Irene talk about this, I get a little bit more information. But I never really want the whole story.
Irene Bremis
She never does. She's like, okay, that's enough. I brought it up, but let's move on. Nothing to see here. Let's go.
Bianca Del Rio
I just. I just. I just always associated ghosts with people that you would know. I. I don't think I've ever run into any.
Irene Bremis
Well, oh, no, no, no, no, no. I would never resurrect somebody that I already knew to have sex with. Them. That would be like, no.
Bianca Del Rio
Well, I didn't know if I was. And then you had a moment where it felt like they were. In their presence. I just associated ghosts kind of going, hey, it's me. I'm the ghost. I don't associate, like, ooh. I don't know if that would scare me. Like going into some place and having a ghost of that building talk to me. Except for that moment when I thought that the man at the house didn't like my tables. I thought that was happening. But that seems logical because I go, he lived here, he died here, and he hates the fucking tables. Yeah, like that makes sense. So I go, sure enough, he could say something and fuck with me. But overall, I can't imagine what a ghost would be trying to do to someone. Like, why would you go up to. If I didn't know you as a ghost, why would I go, hey, because.
Irene Bremis
I'm hot as shit when I'm sleeping, sweetie.
Rachel Dratch
Different story.
Irene Bremis
No, just kidding.
Rachel Dratch
No, I meant about, like, the place. If they're attached to the place.
Bianca Del Rio
Yes. But.
Rachel Dratch
But I have a question about. Because you have been, since you're on the road a lot, you've been to many, many hotels.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Rachel Dratch
And have you ever stayed in a haunted or a creepy hotel?
Bianca Del Rio
I've stayed in creepy hotel. Not by choice. You didn't find out. So you got there. But not like some of those ones in the UK and Europe. Girl, Girl, Really? It's spooky. Well, a lot of them are old, so it's just. As Americans, this is gonna be the most American thing. And I want you to say, as I say, that I'm not proud to be an American. But this is one of the. Especially right now. But this is one of those things when you go to the uk, like, shit doesn't make sense. Like, there'll be three rooms. There'll be a bathtub in one room, a toilet in another room, and the sink in the other one. And you're going through a series of doors, so it always seems creepy. Elevators are questionable, so you always have to walk the steps. So, you know, I'm of a certain age. After you do two flights, you start seeing shit. So in those types of places, mixed with the smells, it does feel cryptic and spooky. But I. But I've never. I've never. You know what I mean? It's old carpet smell, you know, and you get it and you're like, somebody must have died in here. Something must have happened in here. But it's never A hotel that I choose on my own. Like I say, oh, I want to go there. Because it's haunted. No, no. But I've been places and, you know, there's no air conditioning. You got to open the window. Yeah, it's tricky. That's where the ghosts get in. Yeah.
Rachel Dratch
Europe must be haunted because everything's so old.
Bianca Del Rio
It is.
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Rachel Dratch
And then have you ever done, like, in your hometown? I don't know. Have you ever gone for some sort of, like, tarot reading or have your tea leaves? Anything like that? Good or bad?
Bianca Del Rio
Oh, no, because I never thought of it as. As legit.
Rachel Dratch
Good point.
Bianca Del Rio
There are, like, haunted ghost tours in America. I mean, in New Orleans in particular. And I. It was always like, out of work actors that would have a bunch of tourists because they get them at the airport and they come and they talk all this smack. And I would be in drag going to work because I would have to.
Irene Bremis
That is a Toronto.
Rachel Dratch
Wait, is this the origin story?
Bianca Del Rio
Well, not as this is. This is while I was working, while I was working successfully. This was big time back then. So I was working at bingo and I would have to go there at three in the afternoon in drag. Now, I lived in the French Quarter, and on one end of it, I was on the end, and then the gay bar was in the middle of it. So I would have to schlep over, walk over in full drag to the place. And as I'd go, I'd see the haunted ghost tours and all the different people talking shit. And I was just like, they're so full of it. Like, that did not happen. That's not this. At the time, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt had a house. Lenny Kravitz had a house there. John Goodman had a house there. So it was all about woo. And they were dropping all these names. And then as I was walking by, like, well, this is just fuckery. I thought, wait a minute, what if I did a haunted drag tour? You know, where I go around and go behind this building, I sucked a dick. Like, wouldn't that be great? Ooh, this apartment. Some bitch borrowed my dress and never returned it. Like, that would be the ideal thing. But it was in those moments where I guess I never believed it because I came from New Orleans and people so desperately wanted to believe, you know, and tarot cards and stuff. I never. Tarot cards and stuff. I never saw anybody that did it. That actually came out better. Yeah, you know?
Rachel Dratch
Yeah, yeah.
Irene Bremis
It seems plausible. Like in la. Everybody's a waiter in New Orleans. I would imagine New Orleans, however you say, when you do in tarot and stuff like that, they're like out of work actors or like, you know, whatever. Actors trying to make a living. That makes sense.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah. I mean, and I don't know where the plot line is, because a lot of it is just, I think, just made up, you know, and people want to hear it. I mean, because there is a business for it. People are fascinated by it. But I lived there my whole life and I didn't experience anything like that, which was kind of upsetting, you know, so.
Rachel Dratch
Okay, we have so much here, but I don't want to keep you too long, but. I know.
Bianca Del Rio
Oh, no.
Rachel Dratch
Okay, okay. No, I was also going to ask you, like, so you started out in New Orleans, like, where did you first start doing drag? And then what? Like, were you already in New York when you did RuPaul? Or like, how did. What was the trajectory of your fame and fortune?
Bianca Del Rio
Oh, well, the funny thing about it. Way for a table. The funny thing about it, I've got so much money. Let me order these tables online. I know. Well, I started drag in like 1996. And then I ended up going to New York during Hurricane Katrina when all the bodies were floating. I thought, this is the end of entertainment as far as drag and the gay world is concerned. So then one of the reasons why I went, which was funny, was because I remember walking to drag Bingo in full drag. And as I was passing, the garbage men were on their little truck and they were picking up stuff, and they go, hey, Bianca. And I said, hey. And I walked a little further and all right, I gotta get the fuck outta here. Like when the garbage men are calling you by a fake name as you're trotting to work to go and do bingo at three in the afternoon. And mind you, the only person doing bingo at three in the afternoon is an alcoholic. And the last thing an alcoholic wants is a fucking drag queen on a microphone calling out bingo numbers while you're trying to get you fixed. So that was when I said I wanted to. I just need to get out. And. And the hurricane happened, and so we had to evacuate, and not so much about damage or anything. We just couldn't get back into the city for a couple of months. So we went to Atlanta, stay with friends, and then we went to New York, and I said, well, if we can get jobs here, we'll stay. It was me and my ex at the time, and we stayed, and that was that. And then we came back and got our stuff, and then New York was just this wild run at 30 at the time, and I was doing costumes for Broadway shows, was my day job, and then I would do drag at night, and that was kind of the world. It just kind of ended. And I saw many a couple of my friends that had done Drag Race at the time because it was just a new show. And some of my friends that were not that talented got great success. So I thought, let me try. So if they can make this useless bitch famous, let's see what happens. You know what I mean?
Rachel Dratch
Yes.
Bianca Del Rio
But at that time, it was like the only franchise. Now there's like 9,000 franchises and 52 million drag queens falling out of trees. So it was early on, and it was one of those things where I thought, you know, a few people are gonna watch it in California or New York and New Orleans. And then it just shifted your life. You know, you just get to go and you get to travel and you get to run. And that's in New York where I met Matt Kuberman and how we got to do the Hurricane Bianca movies. So it was just this little snowball effect. None of it was chosen. Trust me. The only thing that was chosen were those tables. But everything else? No. Just a wild ride.
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Rachel Dratch
When you were younger and this is such a might be annoying question, like when you were in like little or in high school, whatever, were you like the class clown type but like were you attracted to doing drag cause you knew that you could like, you know, slay a room, if I may use the term. Wait, let me ask you, Bianca, did you know that you were able to slay from a young age?
Bianca Del Rio
Your choice of words. Okay, no. The crazy thing is, is that I've said this to somebody recently. Everything that I was hated for as a child is what I'm revered for now as an adult.
Irene Bremis
Love it.
Bianca Del Rio
In those moments where I don't know if I was really gay or really a drag queen or whatever, I was just, you know, so you were just that child where you're in a situation, you would laugh at something, you'd find something funny, or you would just say the truth and everyone would be shocked, which then I realized shocking and laughing is just kind of a magical thing that's put together but without consciously doing it. You know, I didn't sit down and say, this is what I want to do. But I also said yes to everything. And then you end up doing what you're doing. But I realized as a child, everything was, shut up, quit moving, quit making faces, don't talk back. And I'm like, that's all I do now, you know? So it is kind of funny.
Rachel Dratch
That's so great. That's awesome.
Bianca Del Rio
I love it. That's kind of what it is. So in retrospect, like my siblings or old friends, like we knew from day, wow. Shut the fuck up. That's. Now they just want money. So it's that kind of a thing where you realize. I don't know if that was the case, but it just kind of how it turned out, you know?
Rachel Dratch
Oh, cool.
Irene Bremis
Yeah, I love that, sweetie. I love that. All the things you were told not to do, now that's who you are, and that's how everybody's celebrating you. And I love it.
Rachel Dratch
I'm swimming in Wayfarer.
Irene Bremis
You're swimming in Wayfair. Just swimming with those tags.
Bianca Del Rio
My tables are slaying. Slaying tables. Uh huh. That's funny, because I'm gonna send you both the table.
Irene Bremis
Yes. But for the posting.
Bianca Del Rio
The Ghost Tables.
Rachel Dratch
The Ghost Coffee tables. That's the name of this episode. Wait, Irene, did I cut you off?
Bianca Del Rio
No.
Irene Bremis
I was gonna say, you know, you're right, because in high school, we remember the superl. I think. Rachel, did you get class clown in high school?
Rachel Dratch
I did get class.
Irene Bremis
She did.
Rachel Dratch
Well, yeah, but Irene, what did you get?
Irene Bremis
I got open mouth, insert foot, which is great for standup, you know, that's what I'm saying. Like it serves my purposes now.
Bianca Del Rio
But the question Is though, in high school, I guess it was different for you guys because, I mean, you were already performing, like, performing as in some form or fashion.
Rachel Dratch
School place. Yes, school place. Yeah, I was. Irene wasn't.
Irene Bremis
I wasn't. No, I was just saying the inappropriate things. And driving recklessly. Yes. I'm a stand up. I got worse driver, too. Buckle up.
Rachel Dratch
She also got worse driver. She got worse driver. I don't see that. That's true.
Bianca Del Rio
I love you.
Rachel Dratch
I love you good driver.
Bianca Del Rio
Wait, how do you get worse driver in high school?
Irene Bremis
Oh, you close your eyes and you just step on the pedal, sweetie.
Bianca Del Rio
But do people, like, go in the car with you and then say, okay, we nominate her? Why is best driving a category?
Irene Bremis
You know what? That's really hurtful.
Rachel Dratch
That's a good question. It's a good question.
Bianca Del Rio
It's a very good question.
Rachel Dratch
We were grasping at straws, I guess.
Irene Bremis
I understand.
Bianca Del Rio
Class clown, best looking, best dressed. All that.
Rachel Dratch
There was even one. Oh, my God. There was one class lush. There was a class lush.
Irene Bremis
Hurtful. Who was it?
Bianca Del Rio
Who?
Rachel Dratch
I'm not gonna say. That's ridiculous. Because it was all student led. It was like.
Irene Bremis
Yes, it was all student led.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah. Okay, well, that makes sense. I just thought it'd be the yearbook. And you're opening the yearbook, and it's like, best dress, worst driver. Like, who the fuck off. You don't know how I drive.
Rachel Dratch
This wasn't in the yearbook. No, no, no.
Bianca Del Rio
That's why I was a little concerned.
Rachel Dratch
Okay, I understand now.
Bianca Del Rio
I understand. Okay. Yeah. Worst driving.
Irene Bremis
Now I'm cackling. Oh, my God. But that is hurtful. And you're right. You're right, Bianca. Like, what happened that somebody voted me in as worst driver. This is hurtful.
Rachel Dratch
But anytime I'm in the car with Irene, if she accidentally, like, turns when she's not supposed to, then I just go, worst driver. Like, you just stand just for a.
Bianca Del Rio
Laugh, proving their point.
Rachel Dratch
Proving their point. But if someone did that, like, you could do that to anybody when they make a little mistake anyway.
Bianca Del Rio
But when you think about it, when you think about it, it's something that you're holding on to many years and you know it to be factual in the back of your head, and you go, mm, See, they were right. I recently had a situation where a bar in New York City, a gay bar in New York City that had been open for, like, 30 years, was closing. And so there was this big old stink online going, oh, it's an iconic place that. And it's clothing. And we don't know what to do. Cause, you know, the gays are so worried about it. So cut to. It was called Barracuda, okay?
Irene Bremis
Oh, I know Barracuda.
Bianca Del Rio
Okay, so Barracuda was closing after 30 years. And so everybody's making their statements online. And then they sent me a message to drag queens that said, girl, can you do a video saying that Barracuda is closing? I said, fuck them. They fired me back in 2007, and this is what they deserve. They said, what are you talking about? I said, this is what they. Thirty years later, this is what they get. Mm. It's finally working. I told you. And in my head thought, why do I care about something that many years ago? But I'm like, see what happens when you fuck with me? 30 years after successful business, you close. So that's it. It's your worst driver moment. You know it in the back of your head and go, that's what you deserve and that's what you get because you fired me.
Rachel Dratch
You put a hex on them. That took place.
Bianca Del Rio
Took a while.
Irene Bremis
It took time, but you got there.
Bianca Del Rio
Don't give up. Don't give up.
Irene Bremis
Hold onto that hate and keep manifesting.
Bianca Del Rio
Thank you, Irene. Hold on to that.
Rachel Dratch
Bianca, I don't know if you were prepped that we do a pendulum reading. Did you know that?
Bianca Del Rio
Let's do it. Let's do it. I read it in the email. I read it in the email.
Rachel Dratch
It had the original pendulum.
Irene Bremis
All I have to say is I haven't laughed this hard on an episode ever, actually.
Bianca Del Rio
Well, you gotta get out more.
Irene Bremis
I'm actually laughing my ass off here.
Rachel Dratch
We're gonna go to your show.
Irene Bremis
We are coming.
Rachel Dratch
Okay. That will be your big night. You won't have time for the rest of us.
Irene Bremis
Everybody else got. No, seriously, everybody just got bumped to the. You know what? You're a top. Everybody else is a bottom. You know that.
Bianca Del Rio
No.
Irene Bremis
There we go. There we go.
Bianca Del Rio
Ghost peen. Ghost peen. No, no, I would definitely. Because I'm gonna be in New York for a couple of months, so it's gonna be a lot of fun, right? So we'll definitely. We'll venture out to Staten island to see Irene. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Okay, so I would invite you to Palm Springs, but you're a bad driver, so I don't think that would be a road trip for you. And.
Rachel Dratch
But you might be surrounded by them there, though.
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Rachel Dratch
Ageist. I'm being ageist.
Bianca Del Rio
No, it's okay. Well, we're allowed to. I mean, I'm 50 now, so I'm in that group. I can do.
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Bianca Del Rio
Happy birthday.
Irene Bremis
Happy birthday.
Bianca Del Rio
Ain't nothing happy about turning 50.
Irene Bremis
You look like you're 30. You're so gorgeous.
Bianca Del Rio
You're beautiful. I'm in Palm Springs, Irene. Yeah.
Irene Bremis
But we're on a zoom here, you know? And you literally look like you're 30.
Bianca Del Rio
Well, I got a good doctor, but the main thing is, you better realize. You gotta realize. Everybody was like, what are you gonna do for your birthday? What are you gonna do for. I was like, it doesn't mean anything to me. Like, you know, you live a life, and this is gonna sound grand, but you get to do what you wanna do and experience so many amazing things throughout the year, and you have fun and you get to go to these places and you're working and all of this. That. It's like, I don't need to do something on the actual special day that doesn't mean shit to me. Neither does Christmas. And, you know, I'll see you when I see you. We can do dinner. Lunch here and there, but, I don't know, feel the pressure to have anything on that day. Does that make sense? Yeah.
Irene Bremis
I like it, too.
Bianca Del Rio
Yeah.
Irene Bremis
People have lives. Pressure.
Bianca Del Rio
People have lives. Yeah. Ooh. Come to my special day so I can sit with a bunch of gays that I hate. No, it's not fun. It's not fun.
Rachel Dratch
Well, Bianca, we have this pendulum reading here. If you have a burning question that has a yes or no. And we always say, don't ask something that's gonna make you sad if it answers not what you want, but it's pretty accurate if you like to.
Bianca Del Rio
What would that be?
Rachel Dratch
Okay, well, you're allowed to.
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Bianca Del Rio
Okay, so I got. Okay. All right. Let me think. Let me think.
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Rachel Dratch
Can you take your time?
Bianca Del Rio
All right, all right, all right, I got it. I got it.
Rachel Dratch
Okay.
Irene Bremis
Are we doing this at the same time, Rachel?
Rachel Dratch
Yeah, let's do it at the same time. Okay. So it swings one way for yes and the other for no. So let's. So, okay, thank. The witches are at work. Okay, so now think.
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Rachel Dratch
Think of your question. Okay.
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Bianca Del Rio
Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Rachel Dratch
Okay. Okay.
Bianca Del Rio
Okay. Okay. Ready? Here we go.
Rachel Dratch
Okay, I got. Okay. I'm not gonna tell you. I got an instant answer.
Irene Bremis
I got an instant yes.
Rachel Dratch
I got an instant yes, too.
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Rachel Dratch
What was your question?
Bianca Del Rio
I asked if I'm gonna stay in Palm springs for other 10 years. Oh. Oh. It was a simple question. I didn't want to do a career question. Cause that's too shaky. Then I would say, Dretch told me I was gonna win that. Tony.
Rachel Dratch
No, but do you want to stay there?
Bianca Del Rio
Well, considering the current climate, I was like, do I sell my house? Do I figure it out? You know, it's that kind of a thing. You know, the gays love to run. We love to have an event that's as political as we get. We go, well, Ibiza's lovely. Well, you know, I could go to Amsterdam. Cause the gays are very exotic. We would never think of, like, Staten island, but we. In my mind, I was like, I got this house and I've been here five years now. Do I want to stay? You know, because when you turn on the news, you're like. So that's where I've kind of been in my head, where I'm like. And maybe. Cause I'm out here, too. It's like when you're in New York, everybody's crazy and it's chaotic and the energy is different. But out here, I've had time to think. So I was like, do I? Should I? Should I not? So it seems like I have to stay. Well, then I will.
Rachel Dratch
Maybe you keep your place. But also, who knows what happens after your theater debut.
Bianca Del Rio
Oh, who knows?
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Rachel Dratch
Maybe you're gonna be by coach.
Bianca Del Rio
Crotchety old bitch. Stop it. I can put that on my resume. Yes, honey, slay. I'm bi. Coastal.
Irene Bremis
You are gonna slay. There's no question that you're gonna slay that debut.
Rachel Dratch
I'm gonna incorporate slay into my speech. Much more.
Bianca Del Rio
I'll do it.
Rachel Dratch
Cause this just rolls off my tongue. It sounds so natural. Honey, I slayed last night. I really slayed.
Bianca Del Rio
Can you imagine laying in bed with the ghost peen. You're slaying. Did you talk to the ghost, though? Irene, I'm fascinated by this.
Irene Bremis
Did you, like, say anything? Well, you know what we didn't have to say? I was sleeping and enjoying every minute. I didn't want to open up my mouth. I didn't want the ghost to say anything either. Because why ruin a good moment? You know what I mean?
Bianca Del Rio
What does your husband say about it?
Irene Bremis
Well, we weren't married.
Bianca Del Rio
Oh, at the time. Okay, okay.
Irene Bremis
Yeah, we weren't married. So it's not cheating. It's not cheating.
Rachel Dratch
Were you dating him, though, at the time?
Irene Bremis
No, it was. I was with someone else at the time. It wasn't Steve. So.
Bianca Del Rio
Okay, yeah. That's fascinating to me. And it's never come back.
Irene Bremis
Very fascinating. Never come back. Never come back. And I really. I'd be scared now. You know what I mean? Because of vaginal atrophy. I'm sorry, sweetie. I have to say it.
Bianca Del Rio
Okay.
Irene Bremis
It's not fun. Ghost peen might be too much for me. For I. Ghost peen is too much for Irene.
Rachel Dratch
We almost made it through the whole series. We made it through the whole series without hearing the phrase vaginal atrophy. But that changes. Changes today.
Bianca Del Rio
And it's this episode of all of us. You're actually talking to a cunt today. Yes. This is it. This is it.
Rachel Dratch
Oh, my gosh.
Bianca Del Rio
Okay.
Rachel Dratch
Well, Bianca, this has been a sheer joy.
Irene Bremis
Sheer joy.
Bianca Del Rio
Please. It's a pleasure to get to meet Irene and get to see you always. Ms. Stretch and I will be in New York City this. This fall. So we will cackle. We will have.
Irene Bremis
We have to cackle.
Bianca Del Rio
What was our drink? We had that drink thing that we would drink and remember we were trying to drink. We're in the middle of this. We were in that Russian drag and we're standing in Brooklyn and we were trying. It was like 4 in the morning, we were freezing and we were talking about getting a cocktail. I don't remember what it was.
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Irene Bremis
Oh, shit. Margaritas.
Bianca Del Rio
Knowing me, knowing melted rim, it was something. I can't. It's one of those things I can't even remember. Good memories. They're good memories.
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Bianca Del Rio
When I get to New York, we will have a salted rim margarita. Irene, we'll come capture you because you can't drive in. We'll pick you up. We'll come pick you up. Public Trans. And then in the meantime, I'm gonna send you both some haunted tables so you can see what happens at your house.
Irene Bremis
Send me the haunted tables.
Rachel Dratch
Thank you so.
Irene Bremis
This was so much fun. Bianca, you're awesome. I love you.
Rachel Dratch
And you can find me on Instagram at Ray Dratch. R A e Dratch and Irene at irenebremis B R E M I S. And also, don't forget to check out Irene's comedy special on Amazon and where Apple tv. Apple tv and Sweetie. Oh, it's called Sweetie. Of course, Sweetie.
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Podcast: Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch (QCODE)
Episode: Bianca Del Rio: Tale of the Haunted End Tables
Date: August 13, 2025
Guests: Bianca Del Rio, Irene Bremis
In this lively episode, comedian and drag icon Bianca Del Rio joins Rachel Dratch and co-host Irene Bremis for a rollicking discussion of all things “woo woo” — from haunted houses to ghost sex to the science (or lack thereof) behind spooky claims. The trio reminisce about working together, share tales both paranormal and very much explained, and riff hilariously about life, death, and being fabulous at any age.
The conversation is a mix of Bianca’s comedic skepticism, Irene's wild stories, and Rachel's deadpan humor, touching on haunted end tables, Palm Springs ghosts, dream visitations, haunted hotels, and more. The episode rounds out with a signature Woo Woo pendulum reading and plenty of candid laughter.
Haunted End Tables:
“For a hot minute, the man that died is going, 'Get out of my house, faggot. Get out of my house. Only one gay can live here.'” (14:25, Bianca)
On Skepticism:
“It’s not always a ghost. Sometimes it’s just the cleaning lady.” (14:59, Rachel Dratch)
Dreams of the Dead:
“She’s never been like, hey, here’s my word. I’m dead. So it’s just this spooky thing that sits with me that I’m like, is this real or is this not?” (20:49, Bianca)
On Ghost Sex:
Irene: “It was ghost peen. It was just right, you know what I mean?” (23:42)
Bianca: “The question is, Irene, you had a ghost that had sex with you, and you still chose Staten Island. I don’t understand this.” (22:45)
On Grudges:
“They fired me back in 2007, and this is what they deserve. Thirty years later, this is what they get.” (41:17, Bianca)
Childhood Rebellion Turned Talent:
“Everything I was hated for as a child is what I’m revered for now as an adult.” (36:32, Bianca)
| Time | Topic/Segment | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 01:06 | Opening, greetings, “Hurricane Bianca” memories | | 05:27 | Bianca’s theater project (“Tartuffe”) | | 07:37 | New Orleans origins, above-ground cemeteries | | 10:20 | “Haunted End Tables” story | | 14:59 | The anti-ghost twist — skepticism wins | | 19:43 | Dream visitations from late friend | | 22:08 | Irene’s “ghost sex” experience | | 25:18 | Creepy hotels & haunted travel spots | | 28:27 | Fortune tellers, tarot cards, drag tours in NOLA | | 30:46 | Bianca’s drag origins & accidental path to stardom | | 35:49 | High school superlatives & holding grudges | | 43:36 | Pendulum reading: Will Bianca stay in Palm Springs? | | 46:00 | Recap, closing laughs, ghost peen callback |
The episode delivers an energy that’s campy, candid, and contagiously funny. There’s as much skepticism as woo woo, and a clear joy among friends. Even as paranormal tales are ultimately debunked, the stories remain hilarious, memorable, and sometimes emotional.
If you haven’t listened: Expect deep cackles, a little bit of “ghost peen,” genuine reflection on chosen family and queer life, and a warm invitation to let yourself be “woo woo” — or at least to want your own haunted table.