Dr. Amy Robbins: Spiritual Psychologist

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Episode: Dr. Amy Robbins: Spiritual Psychologist

Host: Rachel Dratch (w/ Co-host Irene Bremis)
Guest: Dr. Amy Robbins
Release Date: June 24, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the intersection of psychology, spirituality, and the unexplained with Dr. Amy Robbins—a clinical psychologist, educator, and non-practicing medium. With warmth and humor, Rachel, Irene, and Amy explore topics like signs from loved ones, spiritual awakenings, integrating mystical experiences into therapy, and the joyful possibilities of living “in the Woo Woo.” The discussion is a blend of skepticism, personal storytelling, and open-minded curiosity about life, death, and everything in between.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dr. Amy Robbins’ Journey into the “Space Between”

[03:53–16:12]

• Personal Loss as Spiritual Awakening: Amy shares how her aunt’s unexpected death at age 47 catalyzed profound anxiety but also opened her to spiritual experiences.
  • “It was just unimaginable to me that this had happened...it just felt out of order.” (Amy, 04:11)
• First “Visitation”: Amy recounts her first clear encounter with her aunt beyond the grave, in a dreamlike state, and how information received was later validated by her mother and uncle.
  • “As real as we are talking today, this is how real it was when I was talking to her.” (Amy, 06:44)
• Balancing Two Worlds: Though trained traditionally, Amy sought guidance and began connecting with other mediums, exploring her growing psychic sensitivity in parallel with her clinical work.

2. The Experience of Mediumship & Intuitive “Downloads”

[16:12–31:15]

• Mediumship in Therapy: Amy explains she doesn’t practice mediumship professionally but cannot always “turn off” these messages.
  • “Sometimes loved ones can be very pushy and they’re like, I am coming in. And again, I don’t know why some do and some don’t.” (Amy, 18:15)
• How Mediumship Feels: Amy describes her psychic experiences as a “knowing” or a download, often disconnected from her left-brained, analytical self.
  • “It feels like my left side of my brain shuts down...and information just comes in.” (Amy, 25:25)
• Parallels with Creative Inspiration: The group notes that creative inspiration sometimes arrives as a similar “download” during relaxation (e.g., in the shower).

3. Practices for Spiritual/Energetic Hygiene

[31:15–39:20]

• Energy Clearing: Amy uses breath work, sound therapy, and other modalities to clear energetic “gunk.”
  • “Every time I do this work...it allows me to be a better... facilitator of healing.” (Amy, 34:21)
• Personalized Practice: She emphasizes that spiritual practice should resonate personally—there is no one right way.
  • “I don’t like someone telling me, ‘this is the way you have to do things.’” (Amy, 38:37)

4. Signs from Beyond and Playing with the Universe

[40:05–54:53]

• Encouraging Openness to Signs: Amy encourages listeners to notice “signs” as a way to experience interconnectedness and guidance.
  • “It’s so much more fun to live in a world where that’s happening.” (Amy, 48:27)
• License Plates & Mayo: Amy tells vivid stories of asking for—and receiving—specific signs from loved ones, like license plates reading “Kids Doc” or “Mayo” (mayo being a joke from a friend’s funeral).
  • “Perhaps one of the three of us will see a pink car...the signs don’t need to come through necessarily to us directly.” (Amy, 52:11)
• Rachel’s Personal Experiences: Rachel shares moving stories of receiving impossible-to-explain text messages on her phone from her late father’s contact.

5. Life Beyond & Consciousness Theories

[54:53–63:26]

• Nature of the Afterlife: Amy describes messages suggesting “the other side” is an infinite field of love, nothing like the “missing out” we perceive.
• Tuning into Different Frequencies: Referencing the Institute for Noetic Sciences, Amy discusses the “radio dial” theory of the brain as a receiver—suggesting some people’s “tuning” opens them to different realities.

6. Therapy, Spiritual Integration, and Research

[63:26–74:50]

• Clinical Implications: Amy is developing a spiritually-informed therapy practice, noting that therapists need training to help clients integrate mystical experiences without pathologizing them.
  • “They go to therapy because they’re depressed because they had a near-death experience and...they don’t know how to integrate them.” (Amy, 73:03)
• Institutional Interest: Discussion of research at the Institute for Noetic Sciences and Yale into how psychic experiences and mental health conditions might overlap.

7. Fun “Woo Woo” Tools & Practices

[69:44–70:35]

• Pendulum Reading: Rachel and Irene give Amy a pendulum reading (a staple of their show) about her business venture—it’s encouraging: “We got a yes!” (Rachel, 70:19)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “No one can take my experience away from me ever. My aunt and I, we were in conversation...”
  — Dr. Amy Robbins, affirming the reality of her experiences ([17:13])

• “Isn’t it so much more fun to live in a world where that’s happening?”
  — Dr. Amy Robbins, on embracing signs ([48:27])

• “It’s fun. You’re right, it’s fun... Joy is the key.”
  — Rachel Dratch & Irene Bremis, on the joy of openness to the mysterious ([54:17])

• “My course is called spiritually informed therapy. They’re like, ‘I want a spiritually informed therapist.’”
  — Dr. Amy Robbins, on the growing acceptance of integrating spiritual experiences in therapy ([74:18])

• “Who am I to say that’s not possible?”
  — Dr. Amy Robbins, on guests’ far-out stories ([75:30])

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Important Timestamps

• 03:53–16:12 – Amy’s backstory and spiritual awakening
• 17:13–18:03 – The reality of mediumistic experiences
• 25:25–27:11 – How information comes to Amy as a medium/intuitive
• 34:21–36:13 – The importance of energy clearing for everyone
• 40:19–54:53 – Fun and poignant stories about “signs” from the beyond
• 55:26–56:22 – Amy’s insights on loved ones’ perspective after death
• 59:43–61:08 – Brain as a “radio dial” for consciousness
• 69:44–70:35 – Pendulum reading: “We got a yes!”
• 74:54–75:37 – Amy’s podcast and embracing the full spectrum of the woo

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Tone & Style

The episode is warm, curious, and non-judgmental, often blending humor with sincerity. The hosts and guest stress open-minded skepticism and prioritize sharing personal experience over dogma or persuasion. They encourage listeners to find joy and playfulness in the search for deeper meaning and connection.

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Where to Find More

• Amy’s Podcast: Life, Death, and the Space Between
• Instagram: @raedratch, @irenebremis
• Dr. Amy Robbins: Featured as both guest and spiritual psychologist

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This episode is highly recommended for anyone interested in the intersection of therapy and spirituality, seeking comfort around grief, or curious about integrating the inexplicable into everyday life. It offers practical and philosophical insights—always delivered with a wink and a sense of fun.

Transcript

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[Rachel Dratch]

Welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch,

the podcast that explores the unexplained with humor and curiosity.

Hello and welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch, here with my pal and Co host Irene Brevis. Hi, Irene.

[Irene Brevis]

Hello, sweetie.

[Rachel Dratch]

That was my big fake energy. Hi, Irene. Try to get some energy going for myself. That is so today. Ooh, we're really excited. Oh, we're gonna go full tilt.

Woo.

Woo. Here we are, joined by Dr. Amy Robbins, who has her own podcast. Well, first of all, she's a therapist, but also. Which is my road not taken of career choice. I'll get into that. But also, she. She has a podcast called Life, Death and the Space Between. So let's say hi to Amy Robbins. Hi, Amy.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Hi, ladies. I'm so excited to be here.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yay. Well, we're excited to have you. We were browsing and listening to your podcast, and you cover all sorts of topics that. Well, some that we've covered here, some that we would love to cover here.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Oh, yeah, I can go out there.

[Irene Brevis]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

And also, not only are you a practicing therapist, you're also a medium, correct?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

I am, but I don't practice mediumship.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

I'm a medium.

[Rachel Dratch]

But you have this. So I want to hear all about that, how you discovered that. So why don't you tell us a little bit about your backstory in terms of becoming a therapist, but then also veering into or being open to the world of life, death, and the space between and how you got into all this.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Well, I was lucky enough that that world just spontaneously opened up for me. So When I was 18 years old, my aunt was waiting for a kidney and pancreas transplant. She had juvenile onset diabetes. She had been sick for most of her life, and she was waiting for the transplant. And while she was waiting for the transplant, the. They did all these medical checks and they realized that her heart wasn't going to be strong enough to withstand the transplant. And so they needed to go in and repair her heart. And when they went in to repair her heart, it was much more damaged than they thought it was, and they were unable to get her heart restarted. And so she died on the table. And she was the age I am now. She was younger. She was 47. And I got that call, that dreaded call that so many people have gotten that like, you think that you're gonna get the call, everything's okay, and you get the call, she didn't make it. And I remember just like dropping to the floor, just. It was just unimaginable to me that this had happened. I come from a family of physicians. My grandfather was a pediatrician, my uncle was a doctor. Like, you just didn't get. You just didn't die at 47. It didn't make sense in my mind. And I had had a couple of young people close to me in high school die, but nothing like this. And it just fe and out of order. And I was only home for. I came home for a very short time and went right back to college. So I didn't have time to grieve. I didn't have time to really understand what was happening. This was my first, what I call out of order. Death didn't make sense. And for years, I really struggled with a lot of anxiety that predated this, but was exacerbated by it because I, in my mind, had equated, like, she was young. She was the oldest of three kids. I'm the oldest of three kids. Like, same birth, just similarities that I had sort of created this story, as we know our minds do, that I might find myself in a similar position. She had gone through a really terrible divorce that had resulted in her needing to go back into the workforce, into a job that probably resulted in her demise, frankly. And we know so much more now about how stress affects our systems and cortisol levels and all of that. So in my mind, I could not end up like her. And so I became extremely driven. I was gonna get a job. I was gonna support myself. I was never gonna find myself in a position where I was gonna sort of be beholden to someone else telling me what I needed to do and the direction I needed to go in. But I did not go right into psychology. I went into radio sales, and I was miserable and quit my job. This was sort of a spiritual awakening. I quit my job. I went back to waiting tables. I volunte found myself in graduate school for clinical psychology after volunteering at Children's Memorial Hospital, which is now lurie. Fast forward a little bit, and when I was in my second year of graduate school, right before my cousin got married, her son, I had my first visit from her. She came to me. I know, I know. Just wait, just wait. Everybody's like, oh, my God. She came to me. It's actually my second visit. I had an earlier visit from her, but I didn't realize it was a visit because I didn't know there was such a thing. She came to me. I was in a dream. It was in that hypnoponic state when you're sort of waking up from that dream or from sleep. She came to me, and very, very clearly. She was sitting at the kitchen table in the house I grew up in, and she said to me, my mom was standing at the kitchen sink. She said, let your mom know I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be at the wedding. It's okay. And then she showed me an image of her with my uncle. And she told me, let him know I hear him when he's talking to me. When he's out walking and talking to me. I know what she shared with me, specifically what he was talking about. And she said, I know what he's talking to me about, and told me, this is when I hear him. So I was like, okay. She left the room. And I remember sort of seeing that energy leave the room. And suddenly my dog starts barking really loud. And I kind wake up, and I look at my husband, and I said, aunt Linda was just here. And he's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, she was just here. I. She was talking to me. And I shared what she said. As soon as, like, it got late enough in the morning, I called my mom. I said, mom, I had this crazy dream again because I didn't have words for it last night. And Aunt Linda came to me, and she was talking to me. And she said, you don't need to be upset. I said, I saw you. You were at the kitchen sink. You were crying. You don't need to be upset. She's going to be there. She's going to be at the wedding. And my mom started crying. She said, I was standing at the kitchen sink last night. I was talking to her, and I was saying to her, I can't believe you're not going to be there. I can't believe you're not going to be at the wedding. And I had the goosebumps. And I was like, okay, that's crazy. I called my uncle. Same thing. I speak to her when I'm out walking. He knew exactly what I shared with him was what he spoke to her about. And I was like, all right, something happened, and I don't know what. I know it wasn't a dream, because as real as we are talking today, this is how real it was when I was talking to her. So I went to grad school that day, and I had a professor who was trained in psychodynamic, really traditional psychotherapy, but also, I knew, brought in indigenous healing, healing practices into her work. And so, again, intuitively, I was like, okay, maybe she can help me sort this out. So I went to her and I told her what happened. And she said, I think you're opening up to something. She gave me Sylvia Browne's book And she gave me the name of medium to go talk to. And I'm like, okay, I don't even know what this is. I don't know anything about mediums. I mean, I'd heard about them, but this was 25 years ago. So it wasn't like they are now, where it feels like, you know, so many people are mediums. And I put it to the side because I was like, I'm in the throes of grad school. I can't really pursue mediumship. And I decided, okay, I'm not going to deal with this. Fast forward to about five years later. My grandfather passed away. I'm now in a private. I'm in private practice. My grandfather passes away. Same thing happens. He comes to me as my cousin's getting married. Apparently, we love. My dead relatives love to come back for weddings. And he shares with me information that I wouldn't have known, a nickname that my cousin's future husband called her. Some questions she was having. I delivered this information, and she said, you're exactly right. And then it started happening with patients, loved ones, where they started coming to me. And I was like, all right, I gotta get a grip on this. Like, I can't be working clinically with people and having their loved ones coming to communicate with me, because that's not why they're coming to me. They're coming to me for therapy. They're not coming to me because their loved ones are trying to get through. So I was real. I. I was stuck. So I took that number out. I called that medium that my professor had given me years before, and I started working with her to try to figure out, like, what do I do? What is this information? Crazy stuff was happening in my house. My husband was like, I don't understand. Lights were not just flickering. Like, entire. My entire house was, like, under siege. Lights going on and off. It was so intense. And he was like, you gotta get a grip on this because we can't have this happening. And so I did. And I worked with this medium for two years. I did readings for people. And then I kind of put it to the side again. I just could never. Because I was practicing clinically now. I had two young kids. I could never quite figure out, how do these pieces go together? And there were. And. And finally, at this point, there were more people starting to talk about being mediums. And the medium that I went to, may she rest in peace. Dorothy, she was amazing, but she was like what you picture a medium to be. She had, like, crazy, crazy orange Hair and like crystals everywhere. And I was like, this is not. I mean, she was amazing, but this isn't who I. This isn't how I see myself. So can I start to, like, connect with other mediums who might be more like me, who are moms and serving on school boards and raising kids and they have these abilities. And so I started to find other people who were also interested in this. I had a woman come to me and she was like, let's do readings together. And at this point, again, I was like, I'm gonna put it to the side. This isn't anything I'm curious about. I don't wanna do anything with this. She comes, she. We each bring in someone to do readings. I bring in my friends, a friend of mine who I'm not super close to. And the friend comes in and I do a reading. And her father in law comes through and he shares sort of all the, like, tell. Tell my son I'm so proud of him and I love my grandson and he's wonderful. And this is how I died. And nothing felt like really incredible to me as I'm doing the reading. And I said to her at the end of the reading, and he's showing me this blue ring, and this ring has a class ring with the blue stone in the middle. She's like, okay. She goes back to her husband, she tells him all about the reading. He was sort of like, yeah, kind of generic. And she tells him about the ring and he says, yeah, my dad didn't wear jewelry, so I mean, great. But I don't think it's him. He goes home that weekend to Philadelphia, where he's from. Within minutes of him being home, I have the goosebumps telling this again. His mom walks out and says to him, I just found this ring of your dad's. And I feel like he'd want you to have it. And it was. Yeah, exactly the ring that I had described. So I was like, okay, all right, maybe there's more to this. So I opened my doors and did like three months of mediumship readings for people. I was just like, anybody. I didn't charge for it because I'm like, I need to do an internship because I'm trained and I have to practice and make sure that I'm legit. And after three months, I was like, you know what? This isn't really what I want to be doing. It just didn't feel. I'm so used to doing deep work with people, it didn't feel juicy enough. But I was like, okay, well, what do I do? Because I have this information. I know these things. I know one of the things I forgot to mention earlier was when my aunt started visiting me, my anxiety decreased tremendously. And so after that, I was like, all right, there's something to this here. And that was really what ended up being. The birth of the podcast was like, okay, I'm grounded in this clinical work, but I have these experiences, and it feels important for those two to come together in some way. But I don't want to be a practicing medium. I love my work. I don't want that to change, so what can I do? And then it was like, oh, bring this information to people in a way that they can start thinking about how it might be impacting their lives or how it could impact their lives if they shifted and started seeing things a little bit differently. That the material world in which we live is not all there is. There's so much more. And for me, it opened up this whole world of conversation.

[Irene Brevis]

My.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Like I said, my anxiety is. I mean, not to say that I never have anxiety because I'm human, but my anxiety around, like, what happens when we die? And am I going to die? And of course I am, but, like, am I going to die at her age and what's going to happen? And it just, like, diminished. And my need to grip the wheel of life so tightly fell away. Oh, wow.

[Irene Brevis]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

I mean, I feel like that's. In a sense, even though we have a more comic sometimes vibe on this show, but sometimes not. But I feel like that's kind of what was my motivation, too. Like, I always loved hearing stories, not necessarily just about the world beyond life, but even whatever, like, kooky ghost stories or psychic, like, just the idea that we don't know everything. It gave me some form of comfort in the way that you're saying, like, on a deeper level is how you're saying. But I think that's part of our motivation, too. We don't have the. Well, we've had some of our share of experiences, but nothing like mediumship at all. But it's really fascinating to hear.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

But that's the thing, is that I think that so many people have had these experiences or are opening up to these experiences, and I want people to, like, invite them in, invite those experiences in. Because I've seen mediums before, I've had readings, and I. Even when I leave those, I'm always like, is that. Like, did they really know that? Or am I creating that in my head? Or maybe I made something fit that didn't really fit. But no one can take my experience away from me ever. My aunt and I, we were in conversation and my grandfather and my patients loved ones. And I've had patients loved ones that come through in session now and I'm in a different place so I allow it to come through and I ask them, you know, are they open? Many of my patients know no.

[Irene Brevis]

Yeah.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And so it's very real.

[Rachel Dratch]

So cool. Imagine being your therapist and just being like, oh, you get this bonus round of this loved one coming in. That's so cool.

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[Dr. Amy Robbins]

I can't guarantee it and I don't like invite it in, but sometimes loved ones can be very pushy and they're like, I am coming in. And again, I don't know why some do and some don't.

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[Rachel Dratch]

Well, this is what I was gonna ask you a couple things. One is like, I mean, you're saying you can't just turn it on, because I was wondering the idea that you can turn it on for every single person that walks through your door, like, that seems difficult to me, but maybe some people can do that. But I was wondering that, like, sometimes does it just like the flow has to happen. You can't say, okay, right now I wanna reach this person, or what is the experience for you?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Well, I think it's like anything. Like, some people are naturally born with a greater gift for it, right? Like I, I grew up in Chicago, so I'm never gonna be like, Michael Jordan was my heir, right? Like, I'm never gonna be a Michael Jordan. The equivalent of a Michael Jordan medium. I don't think I have a family. My mom is very intuitive. They're very empathic, my mom and my grandma. But they've never had these experiences. And there is some research that shows that there is. It does run in families and you'll hear this, like people will say, like, from the age of three, I saw apparitions and ghosts. And that's never been my experience. I've been curious, but never like, oh yeah, I didn't even have an imaginary friend, so I'm very left brained. But what I think you can do is you can certainly practice. And for me, I don't practice it. So when it comes in, I'm always a little bit like, oh, there you are again. But when I do really, like in the times where I have like when I was doing these medium internship readings and I was super dialed in, I was super dialed in. And so I say like, I would be probably a BB plus medium. When you're in the state of grief and you are desperately searching and wanting to connect with a loved one, I want to make sure that the person that is doing that is like the Michael Jordan of mediums. Because there's so much skepticism already. And if someone is in pain and they want to connect and then they go and they have this experience and it's like, oh, all this stuff that I believed, like, it's not true, it's not real. And then that just sets people back. And unfortunately there really isn't like a criteria for people for mediums. I mean there are some places, Forever Family foundation, helping parents heal, amazing foundations that vet mediums. But there is no formal vetting process or anything. It's just sort of, are they good? Are they not good? Like, do they. I mean the criteria for it is like, how many, how many yeses and no's? Like how many times do they have a hit? And I know there's so many times where it's like you feel like, is this person just like throwing spaghetti at the wall? And eventually something will stick and then

[Rachel Dratch]

they'll be like, oh, like I see roses, like that kind of thing, right? Like, was there a watch? Like, no, not in this case. There's no watch. You know what I mean? But like you just throw out generic, almost like heirlooms and funeral imagery and then you're bound to get something. That's where I'm sort of.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Or like, they really loved you or they're there and they're saying how much they now love you. It's like the evidence needs to be there. That ring that showed up that day, right? Like, that was like the evidence that I think you need is yours often.

[Rachel Dratch]

I mean, you said you had the couple dreams. Is it often dreams? Or like if you're like, I always wonder that Phrase. Irene, maybe you've wondered this too. Like, when someone says, oh, this person, they really want to come through. I'm always like, what does that sound like or look like to the medium person? Like, is it a visual? Like someone's knocking at the door? Is someone shouting in your ear? Like, what does that mean?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

So when I've experienced it, I almost feel like my left side of my brain, like, shuts down and so I can't think anymore. Like, my attempt at trying to, like, come up with words or think is gone, and information just comes in. It feels, like, separate for me. Like, this sort of. People can't see, but it feels like it's, you know, like, almost like a bingo card.

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You know, when you.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

The little bingo cards that have, like, the little doors that you move to cover the bingo cards, that's what feels like happens for me. Like, the door closes on the left side of my brain and the right side of my brain. Now information just comes through, and it's not. It's hard to say. Like, I don't necessarily hear. I just know to give that information.

[Irene Brevis]

It sounds like a download of some sort, right? Like an etheric download.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yes.

[Guest or Co-host (unspecified)]

Right.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yes. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. It's like a knowing. I mean, even, like, I. I've been listening to some of your episodes as well, and I was thinking about, like, where ideas come from. And I'm teaching a course for therapists now, and the information for me just came in just like that. It was like, boom. Downloaded very clear. Like, here are the six. Six modules for the course. Go teach It. And it was like. It came to me in the shower, which is where a lot of my. The shower.

[Rachel Dratch]

The shower, yes.

[Guest or Co-host (unspecified)]

Oh, my God.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Because water is such a great conductor of information in that way. It's like electricity. And so it just.

[Rachel Dratch]

I love that you just said that.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah, it just came to me, and I was like, okay. Like, I don't know. I don't know. It wasn't spoken. It was just suddenly there.

[Rachel Dratch]

I love this. That applies to creativity, too. Like, trying to think of sketches or jokes or whatever. Like, you know, in the past, I would sort of gnash my teeth more and struggle. And then I've sort of learned that that's where the best stuff just comes. Like, in a download. Like what you just said.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah. Like, sometimes when I'm struggling, and I was struggling with this for a long time, I was like, I know I'm so supposed to do this, but why does it Feel so hard, like, why can I not come up with what this should look like? And I. I have like, Google spreadsheets of like, different ideas of what this. And nothing felt right. And finally I was just like, you know what? I'm just gonna ask for help and let it go. And that's when it came to me. And so sometimes I'll do that. A lot of times I'll do that when I can remember to get out of my left brain and just be like, okay, I'm gonna let go. I'm gonna surrender.

[Irene Brevis]

Bring it to me. Exactly.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Bring it to me.

[Rachel Dratch]

Do you see images of people, like, like how they look? Or is it usually just like the message or like the symbol? Like, you can't really. Or you don't really control seeing this loved one. It's more like, I'm just wondering how you experience this. Yeah, for us non mediums, I don't see per se.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

I just. It's just like. I mean, maybe I hear a little bit, but it just feels like it just comes in like a. Like a wave.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

Wow.

[Irene Brevis]

I've had that happen to me in terms when I'm writing. You know how when you're on a flow and you're writing and you don't know how these words are coming to you all of a sudden, and you look down and it's like. It's almost like that freestyle writing when you're in that almost meditative state.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Exactly.

[Irene Brevis]

I imagine that it's something like that for you when you're receiving all this information spontaneously.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

That's exactly what it is. And I've also been able to use it a little bit. I mean, again, I'm not a practicing medium in my practice. I wanna be very clear on that. But I have had the experience of seeing people in a past life. I've had the experiences of knowing exactly sort of where someone got stuck in their development based on what information kind of comes in. And that stuff I have seen, I've sort of had an image in my mind's eye for that that feels different than the message that comes through. When it's a loved one coming through. It's like a very clear image of like, for one of my clients, it was. She was on her bed when she was young and she was crying. And I knew exactly the age and exactly what happened. And when I brought it into the session, she was like, yes, you're absolutely right.

[Rachel Dratch]

So, like, let's say you're treating someone. Maybe this is what you're kind of saying, like, could you kind of see like if someone had abuse or something? Do you ever like see like get visions of what happened to them or. It's not that psychically connected for treating someone?

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Yeah.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Again, like, I don't actively kind of practice that, but sometimes it will just spontaneously happen.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, wow.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah. Which can be a little bit. I mean, this summer, actually, one of my goals is to like revisit some of that because I think I just again, I'm very left brain. So for me it is a practice. And the more I'm like doing life, like mom stuff and life stuff, and the further away from it I feel. And so I try to every summer sort of reset and recalibrate and bring myself back to it a little bit more to strengthen that muscle because it does feel like something I can't just expect. For me personally to just happen all the time, I really do need to work at it and I do need to be in a place where I have the time to sit, to meditate. I do breath work, I do sound, I do lots of different healing modalities to try to clear myself so that I can try to be more receptive to the information that's coming through. More for me personally than for anybody else.

[Rachel Dratch]

So just last week we had someone with like, it just so happens we have two and two guests in a row with kind of, you know, similar sort of areas. But we had someone who had a near death experience and she got into sound work and she practiced.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

She was listening.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, okay.

[Irene Brevis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

So I was about to ask you, like, how do you practice? Like, even for me, I consider myself intuitive. I guess since I started doing this pod, I feel like I'm getting more and more, like. I don't want to say skills because I don't have these kind of skills, but more.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

You do probably.

[Rachel Dratch]

Channels, I guess.

[Irene Brevis]

Yeah, yeah, attuned.

[Rachel Dratch]

But I would love to sort of work on this, like, and I have no idea how. So. It's interesting to hear you say you practice this sort of being open.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah, I mean, I practice a lot around my own energy. So, like, how. How am I? Like, I literally just had a sound and breath work this morning, so. And I cleared out so much energetic garbage. Like, for me, breath is a great. Yeah, it's insane. If you have not done breath work, if you wanna. If you ladies wanna come to Michigan, my breath work and sound practitioner here is like, it's next level. It's like nothing.

[Guest or Co-host (unspecified)]

I.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And I've done a lot. I've not done a lot of breath work. I've done a lot of sound, but because I found her now, I feel like no one will ever be what she is. It's incredible. And I just have recognized through this work and also through some psychedelic experiences how much physical energy the body can hold. And so to me, like today even what happened was like I released through screaming. This might freak people out, but. And so my energy centers were screaming. Like the sounds of the chakras. Like each chakra sound got lighter and lighter the further up I would go. And my body, she gave me this feedback was like moving to like waves to the sounds of the chakras and it was not me. And so I think it's just one of the things that I'm really tuning into now for myself is like, how am I keeping my own energetic being clear?

[Rachel Dratch]

Ooh, that's such a good, I don't wanna say reminder. Cause it's not like I knew this. I feel like I'm learning a lot just doing this and the people we talk to. But that's such a good, just human reminder, I guess because we do go to our day to day and we get all our to do lists and all that. And this isn't even in my head, but I feel like this would help with the day to day. This would help with everything to be more just grounded and in tune with your soul, for lack of a better word.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah, I think that's the exact word. And I think we don't realize how much of other people's energetic garbage we're going through the day picking up on all day.

[Irene Brevis]

We're like magnets. It's so true. And you know, there is something to be said. The soul, but the body responds to the soul too. And you know, that's when we start getting sick. And so it's very important to pay attention to that. That's amazing.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah, yeah. And every time I do this work, whatever healing work I do for myself, one it allows me to be a better. I don't like to say I'm a healer because I think we each heal ourselves, but I facilitate healing in people. Right. I'm there to guide them. And the more I can deepen my own understanding of myself and the more that I can deepen my own understanding of the energetic body of the psychological mind. It only deepens my work and helps me better understand the people who I'm serving.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

Or even just as a mom, like that's a good. Or a parent, that's a good reminder. Like of course you're gonna be a better parent if you are not taking your crap. I don't know. You know what I mean? You're not blocked up and all that stuff.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah, it's a lot of gunk that we take in that we don't even realize. And the first time I had such a release, I felt like I rid myself of cancer. I know it sounds crazy. I have no proof that that's actually what happened. I don't. I wasn't sick. There was nothing like, for sure. But I just left and I was like, you had stuff inside of you that had just been collecting and it's not yours, but it was there and you just got rid of it. And a lot of these. You know, the previous guest you had on, I heard her talking about her near death experience and how she uses sound to help people connect with their higher selves. Like. Like there are so many modalities that help us clear out these diseases that we're carrying in us that we don't even know.

[Irene Brevis]

Yeah, it's like an exorcism of sorts. You know, just getting rid of all this negative that we're also. That you said that we're. We're absorbing from other people too. It's not even our own shit, it's everybody else's shit.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Right?

[Rachel Dratch]

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[Rachel Dratch]

And besides breath work and sound work and I guess meditation, like, are there other sort of big ways of doing that or is it just so many? Like, I mean, you said psychedelics. Like, like, are there just so many modalities or are there, like, here's your starter pack kind of thing? Like those things I think I always

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

say to people, pay attention to what resonates with you. It could be just walking in nature, but I don't like someone telling me, like, this is the way you have to do things. I feel like that I'm like, well, if I can't meditate, no one should force me to meditate. If that doesn't work, oh, I love you.

[Irene Brevis]

Yes.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Like, I'm not a journaler. Don't ever ask me to sit and journal. That is just not my thing. And so that's okay. I've found other things that are my thing. And I think we have to all sort of find that thing that resonates with our soul and then we'll do it. But if you say, like, you have to sit down every day for 15 minutes and that's the only way

[Irene Brevis]

it becomes a job. And once something becomes a job, it becomes like, obligatory responsibility and it's shrouded in all the things that we're trying to avoid. That's a very good point. Thank you for sharing that.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And then it's just feels meaningless. Like you're just going through the motions to get somewhere, but there's no. There is no soul then behind what you're doing. It's like, all right, this is what they told me. This is what I was prescribed to do. So I have to do it. I mean, I can go to all different realms and sound breath. I can travel. I can have my guides come in. They can do psychic work on me. But in meditation, that's very. I meditate, but I can't get to those same spaces that I can through other modalities.

[Rachel Dratch]

So for. In terms of mediumship, specifically, can someone open that channel on their own? Like, how would. I'm very curious about that. And I also want to know what you think about signs, too.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Oh, I love signs. I think when we start opening up and Rachel, maybe you're seeing this, as you're doing this podcast more and more, you're starting to pay more attention and you're starting to see. See the signs and synchronicities that are showing up for you. And I think that when we are opening up to this, that's sort of the first step to show us, okay, you're on the right path. And to me, that's also when your vibration is a little bit higher. And I hate saying this, because then it's like, well, if I'm not seeing the signs, then my vibration. That's not the case. But so often, so many of us are walking through our lives, like, completely unconscious or just, like, not paying attention to anything. And so when people start to see signs, to me, that's like they're moving towards a higher level of consciousness without judgment. It's not good or bad. It's just like you're moving in a direction of seeing the interconnectedness of what is. And ultimately, like, you've had people on the show that have talked about this, like, that's why we're here, is to recognize the interconnectedness between all of us and the interconnectedness of the people who we love, who have now crossed over. Like, they're just not in a physical body anymore, but their consciousness still exists. And it's just a different way of vibration. They're no longer confined by this sausage. I call it my sausage suit the shell of a physical body. And so signs can really be that communication. And I could tell a million and one sign stories. I mean, I have signs that happen. I'll tell you a. I have two super, super fun ones. You want to hear them?

[Irene Brevis]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, sure.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

So my grandfather, the pediatrician, who, Not a believer in any of this, like, we never even spoke about it. But when he did die, I said to him, grandpa, like, as he was dying and as he was crossing over, I said, you gotta show me something. You gotta. Come on, you. Like, I. You gotta believe in this. Like, when you get over there, I want to sign. I didn't say this to him literally. I just in my mouth said it to him. We're on our way to his funeral, and I turn down the street to go pick up my sister. And it's a street that I would not normally turn down to go to her house. And on the street is a car with a license plate that says Kids Doc. My grandfather was the one who was the pediatrician. So I was like, wow. I mean, I asked for a sign, I got a sign. And for some reason, for me, license plates are my spirit. You too?

[Irene Brevis]

Yes, big time.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And I think part of it for me, I've sort of asked this question. It was like, because that's something that's grounded in this reality that becomes undeniable. So if I thought I just, like, heard something or if I saw a cardinal, those to me, I'm like, okay, Cardinals are everywhere. Like, I need the real sort of the juice of it all. Like, I don't just want. Yeah, I don't just want specificity. Specificity, exactly. So another fun one. So my. One of my very dear friends husbands died of a brain tumor. And at his funeral, they were talking about his distaste for mayo. He hated mayonnaise. And I'm sitting at the funeral and I said to him, darren, you gotta show me mayo. Like, that's gonna be our sign. I need mayo. And that weekend, there was this woman who came to speak at a bookstore. She was doing a book signing. And my girlfriend couldn't go because she was at the Shiva. And so I said I would go. And I had this book signed for her. And this woman also lost her husband through by a brain tumor. So there were like a lot of similarities. And I'm driving home and I turn down the street and in front of the my old apartment building, which was 444, which is my angel numbers, there is a car with a license plate that Sundays Mayo. It's two nights after he dies. Like, I'm just coming back from this experience and I'm like, you can't make this up. You just can't make this shit up when it happens. And then it becomes undeniable because you're like, I asked for it. And this is Rachel, what you were talking about. Like, you can ask for these things, but you have to be open to how they might show up for you.

[Irene Brevis]

And you have to be aware.

[Rachel Dratch]

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[Rachel Dratch]

So we had someone on here, Casey Wilson, who's an actor, and she was talking about signs like hearing this song that's never on the radio, like asking for her mom. Anyway, she told me because signs were for me, kind of like final Frontier. Like, I didn't know if I really believed it or not, but she told me, like what you just said you have to ask for the sign. So I didn't ask for this per se, but a few weeks later I just wondered in my mind, not saying out loud, I wondered whatever happened to my dad's old text chain on my phone? A couple days I'll abridge the story, but a couple days later I got two texts from like, I have a mom and dad still on my phone. I got two texts at the same time. The first one was from my mom. The second one was my dad's old

text chain yes, yes, yes.

And then, since then. But when I called my friend to tell me about it, there was more on the chain. Like, it had left off where he died, but then there was more on the chain after that. Like, that said, like, I'm on the other line. I can't talk right now. I'm on the other line.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

No, no.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes.

[Guest or Co-host (unspecified)]

Oh, my God.

[Rachel Dratch]

I know. And then, since then, I'd had two other experiences with my phone where I went to send, like, pictures of my son with his other grandparents. And when I went to send it to my mom, the text chain, instead of the real text chain, it popped up with my mom, like, the Last date of January 2017, which is the last time my dad was here with my son. Like, I've just had some weird pop ups on my phone that, that I just think are signs, but I can't even believe I'm saying this because the old me wouldn't know what to make of it. But, yeah, they are.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

They are. And isn't it so much more fun to live in a world where that's happening?

[Irene Brevis]

Yes, yes, yes, sweetie, yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Because I also just had this big event over the weekend and my friend was like, oh, it's too bad your dad's not here. And then I got my third thing from him where a text chain popped up from, like, the last big event I did, April 2025, was this. I was like the head of this parade, and my mom and I were like, oh, if only dad were here. Photos popped up of that on my phone from some rando text chain, like, dated April 2025. Like, having just said, I wish. And that morning, that's the only time I said, like, dad, send me a sign on my phone. I actually said that. Send me a sign on my phone. And then I got those photos. So now I'm full tilt, but I'm fascinated to talk to you about this. Yeah.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And how you get this and tell a million, literally a million more. Like, right before my daughter, who applied to college, she loves this story. She's like, why don't you ever tell that story? She was freaking out. Of course. It was right before she was supposed to hear early action or whatever it was. And I was like, okay, stay calm. Like, I didn't even say, give me a sign. I was like, me internally. I'm like, okay, just like, hold this space for her. You know, she's anxious. I get in my car to drive. I'm in Chicago. So I get in my car and I pull up behind someone and on Their license plate. She was waiting to hear from University of Michigan. Was like a University of Michigan thing around the bumper. Sticker around the bumper. Fine. Okay. That I could dismiss, Right? Not that big of a deal. Then I. A old picture pops up on my phone of her dressed fully in Michigan gear.

[Tom Sykes]

Oh.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

From like, four years ago. Then I get this random email from someone that was in one of my courses, and she said, I just wanted to let you know I'm not gonna be able to make it to our class on Monday. I'm gonna be in Ann Arbor. And I was like. And I have a thing with threes, too. Like, when things happen in threes, I'm like, I gotta pay attention to that. And my daughter got in. So again, like, I don't know, maybe I'm just saying that those were signs because. But I don't know. It was just a little bit. The license plate one I can dismiss. The other two just felt a little bit. Maybe you could argue the algorithm in my phone.

[Rachel Dratch]

Fine.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

It heard me talking about Michigan. Who knows? But the last one, like, this random woman telling me I'm gonna be in on Ann Arbor this weekend. Like, it just. You're just like, what?

[Rachel Dratch]

Right?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Like, you're like, huh, this isn't.

[Rachel Dratch]

Like you said, it is more fun that way. Like, I mean, it's more fun to feel connected to some. To something higher than your consciousness. Yeah, exactly. Whatever we want to call it. Yeah.

[Irene Brevis]

To plug into it.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And it's super fun to play. Yeah. It's so fun to start playing with that more, too. To be like, dad, come on. Like, show me. Show me how you're gonna be here. What are you gonna do?

[Irene Brevis]

Well, the license plate is a big one. It really is. And Steve's obsessed, my husband, with license plates and numbers and clocks, the time on the clock. But the most recent one that I've been kind of tuning into is the color Pink Vehicles. Pink vehicles. I pick pink because it's an unusual color for a car. And not long ago, we got lost going somewhere, and we had to detour in Connecticut somewhere. And I look to the right, and there's a pink school bus.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Sweet. Crazy. Yeah.

[Irene Brevis]

Thank you.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah.

[Irene Brevis]

Thank you, Dr. Amy Robbins.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Well, here's. Here's the thing, too. Like, the signs don't need to come through necessarily to us. So you just said a pink car. Perhaps one of the three of us will see a pink car. I had someone in one of my classes, and she said, I just asked my husband to show me that he was a pink. I Wanted flamingos. Right? Totally random. I happened to be at my parents house in Palm Springs. It was a rental, they never been here before. And I go into the closet to pull out a towel and the towel is a giant pink flamingo. And I'm like, okay, like maybe the sign came to me to show to her. Right, so it can work like that too. It's not always like direct to you, but you might have the experience where someone close to you just suddenly like sends you an email and they're like, hey, I just saw blah blah blah and was thinking of you or whatever it is. And you're like, oh, well, that's weird because I was just saying I wanted my father to send me this in this way. And I think oftentimes we then feel like, oh, well, I didn't see it specifically or I didn't, you know, I asked for it to show up as this and it didn't. But you have to be open to how it's gonna show up. It's like this old parable where this man is waiting for God and it's flooding and the water's coming up higher and this guy pulls up in a boat and says, I'm here to take you. And he says, no, no, no, I'm waiting for God. And then someone comes from helicopter and he says, I'm here to rescue you. And the guy says, no, no, no, I'm waiting for God. And then he dies and he gets to heaven and God says, and he meets God and he says, God, I was waiting for you. And God looks at him and says, well, I sent someone in a boat and I sent someone in a helicopter and that was me. Like, so it's like you don't necessarily need to be beat over the head with it to know that that's what it is. So be open, start trusting, start asking, start playing. Playing with the universe. It's so fun. Like you both have experienced.

[Rachel Dratch]

It's fun.

You're right, it's fun.

[Irene Brevis]

And it has to be.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes, fun is the word. Like, I mean, we have fun on the show, but I don't think of like the word fun with like the universe. But even that thing of like, you know, my dad, like saying, will you send me a message on my phone, I wasn't even thinking fun. I was thinking more like, like when it, when that message popped up, I was like stunned, you know, but. But if you pull the camera back per se, like, it's also fun and

joyful to think joy is the key.

[Irene Brevis]

Yes.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Because you feel so, like, connected in that moment, in that one moment.

[Rachel Dratch]

I have a question about, like, I mean, you, you know, you said your aunt passed when she was 47. Or like, I think of my dad, like, you know, missing out on all this stuff, you know, and I'm just wondering, we could. When you connect with spirit or whatever you want to call it, I don't know how you refer, like, do you get sort of. I know you're getting messages to people like they're going to be at the wedding, but do you get a sense of their being in beyond land? I'm just curious about that.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Well, in one of my plant medicine journeys, my aunt was there. And the information that I got from her was more like, not that there was a missing, because my sense is like, this is like an infinite field of love and just connection. And so there. I think it's so hard for us intellectually to wrap our minds around what it would be like to not be in this physical body and to just feel like expansive and love. And so I don't get a sense that she was like, I'm missing this life. But she did share with me that she was grateful for the work that I was working through so that her soul didn't have to come back and do more of that work. So it was like I was healing something for her and her sort of working through me.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wow, that does answer in terms of like, it's a different way of feeling and thinking that we can't really comprehend, I guess.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Right. I think near death experiencers talk about that.

[Rachel Dratch]

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[Allie or Nat (Let's Get Haunted Hosts)]

I'm Allie.

[Rachel Dratch]

I'm Nat.

[Allie or Nat (Let's Get Haunted Hosts)]

And we host the podcast let's Get Haunted, where getting haunted is more than just a hobby.

[Rachel Dratch]

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[Allie or Nat (Let's Get Haunted Hosts)]

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[Rachel Dratch]

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[Dr. Amy Robbins]

So I just interviewed a couple people from ions. Are you guys familiar with ions? The Institute for Noetic Sciences. They do amazing research in this space and one of the things that they've been talking about is this sort of theory. I don't know if it's new or not, but that the brain is actually more of like a transmitter radio. It's all about like what you're sort of dialed into. So if you're super dialed in to this here and now, this material world, like that's the information you're gonna receive. And when you can kind of tune your dial in another way, then you can. And I think it's a really good image to think about. Like, then you can tune into other frequencies, right? Like am, fm, Spotify, like that's all out there. We just didn't push the button to tune into, you know, our favorite radio station or our favorite Spotify station.

[Irene Brevis]

I like the idea.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah. And it's much easier to think of that way because it's like, okay, today I do want to tune into my higher self a little bit more. What is that vibration that I need to shift to. To tune into that? And then you sort of shift that vibration a little bit and then you can tune into it again. Not easy, but a practice. But the more you do it, the more. And this is where I think, like some mediums can be so successful and just drop right in. They've tuned their brain to that radio station where they're just like, okay, let me tune the dial. Let me move to that frequency. Now. That's the information I'm getting.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, wow, that's interesting. And what's that called again? The institute you mentioned.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Oh, Institute for Noetic Sciences. There are actually, I think a lot of. I can totally nerd out here, but a lot of academic institutions, I feel like, don't support this research because they think it's too far out there. But the Institute for Noetic Sciences is a freestanding research institutions, so they're able to do a lot of the research on mediums. And I mean, we're. I was just talking with someone about like, could there be the potential for thinking about how we think about schizophrenia as like perhaps this is a range of a disorder. It's on a spectrum. Like so many, I think disorders are. And that some people, yes, it's a genetic. You know, it's genetic. It's passed down through families. But maybe for some people it's that they're both brain is tuned into a frequency that cannot filter information in a way that makes them be able to live in this material space and time? And so could there potentially be like a new treatment that we could come up with where they learn how to filter that information differently so they don't feel like all this information is just coming at them without. I mean, I think we have evolved to filter out what we need. My dog. I don't Doubt that. My dog can smell things I can't smell. I'm not like, nope, he's not smelling that.

[Allie or Nat (Let's Get Haunted Hosts)]

Right.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Like, his. He has not filtered that sense of smell. We, I think, have filtered out a lot of the noise so we can function. Although I'm not sure we're functioning so well.

[Irene Brevis]

But I feel like that about autism, too. A broad spectrum of autism, same thing. You know, I've always thought that about schizophrenia as well. Not to say that some people are in desperate need of medication. However, I too, agree with what you're saying. Like, what separates a schizophrenic from, like, sometimes a medium, A good agent. Sweetie, let me spell it out for you. Okay, exactly, exactly.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And they're doing research on that at Yale.

[Irene Brevis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Which is amazing because they're looking at. Okay, why is a medium able to function in the world but a schizophrenic cannot? Maybe the world's messed up. I mean, we know it is, but. Right.

[Irene Brevis]

Like. Oh, yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

I was gonna ask you on your podcast, what's. I mean, you've already told us such amazing stories, so I was wondering if there's one that comes to mind of, like, what's the most sort of mind blowing story you've had on or one that comes to mind.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Okay, so my two favorites. Not that I have favorite podcasts.

[Rachel Dratch]

No. Because then we can all go listen to these two in addition to the whole podcast.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

But yeah, all of, like, 400 million episodes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes.

All 400. Yes.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

So, okay, there's two. And they're both. One is more obscure than the other one. So one is this guy. You might have heard of him. He is. I forget his name, but he was struck by lightning. He was on a payphone. Have you heard this? And he was. No, no, Tony. Tony Chicora, I think is his name. And he was struck by lightning standing at a payphone, like on a campsite or something in a cabin. His whole family was there. And he described orthopedic surgeon. He describes that he was running up the stairs after he was struck by lightning, and his family was, like, running through him. So he experienced them, like, coming back. They were, like, coming through his body. And then he came back and became a pianist and an orthopedic surgeon. So, like, talk about both sides of your brain being activated. So I love that story. I don't know. There's something about people going through you that I feel like that would just wig me out. Like, you come back from that and you're like, you just, like, ran through me. What was that? And the other one is this crazy story about this guy, Lionel Friedberg, I think his name was, and he wrote this book. I don't remember the book, but he talked about he grew up in South Africa and he used to have what's called bones thrown for him. So it's like another way of sort of fortune telling where people. It's called throwing the bones. And so a lot of, like these trained healers in, in these communities, they were like a shaman and they would throw your bones and it would predict your future. And he had three things that were like, one was like, you're going to meet someone who was like, very instrumental in the Holocaust. And sure enough, like, years later, he ends up doing this documentary with someone who flew the planes for Adolf Hitler. Like, it was just. And then another, I mean, he had like several of these stories that were so predictive. And I just remember being like, how in the world can bones, animal bones, possibly show that? And they. It just felt like such an obscure story. And I never heard of throwing bones before. And. And then I interviewed as a follow up, his friend who's a cardiologist in California, who learned to throw bones.

[Guest or Co-host (unspecified)]

I know.

[Irene Brevis]

Well, you know, it kind of makes sense to me in the way that bones contain memories. You know, everything's in our DNA. Anything that once lived, I feel like always contains memories somehow and is connected. So maybe that's. I don't know. I'm just spitballing, sweetie.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yeah. And we're also connected, right? Like, everything is connected. Old, new, past life, present life. I mean, I had the trippiest experience even just today, before I went to this healing, like part of releasing energy. Sometimes I scream, I move my body. Like we hear about somatic healing, right? It's like movement through your body. And I was laying there and I was like doing this weird movement thing. And people are going to be like, who is this crazy lady talking about that?

[Rachel Dratch]

No.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And I had had this experience that I had already done this. Like, I remember, but it wasn't a dream. But I was like, I know that I, in my mind at some point was talking to myself, like, you're gonna be doing this. And then I was doing it and I'm like, what was. Like, did timelines get crossed? Like, did this already happen? Did I see it happen? And so I think more people are starting to have these experiences. Like, it wasn't a deja vu, it wasn't a dream. It was clearly like, it felt like lines got crossed somehow. I don't know. What it was, but it was trippy.

[Rachel Dratch]

You should listen to. We have an episode, one of our first episodes. It's about time travel and it's the crazy. It's one of our most, like, if you ask me what's the craziest story we've had on, it's that time travel one. Cause it makes it very believable.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

So I'm gonna go listen.

[Rachel Dratch]

And speaking of believable, I think it's cool that, like, whenever we talk to sort of a practitioner or someone that's, you know, gifted or whatever, I think what strikes me, as always is, like, you're not trying to convince anyone. You're not like, no, really, this really happened. You're just like, this is my experience walking this earth, believe it or not, take from it what you will. And that's what we find, I think, more and more as we do this. Like, no one's trying to sell you something on this or, like, with their experiences or gifts or whatever. It's just we're hearing this is your story and how you experience things.

[Allie or Nat (Let's Get Haunted Hosts)]

Right.

[Irene Brevis]

Sharing.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Exactly. And I remember when I first started my podcast and people were like, are you crazy? You're gonna lose referral sources? And I was like, I might, but this is my truth. And all I wanna do is speak my truth. And once I was able to move into that place, I didn't care whether or not people believed me. It's not for me to convince anybody that this is true. It's just telling the story, believe it or not. Maybe. Maybe be a little curious. Maybe open yourself up, just. If I could get you just to open yourself up just a smidge to play with it, maybe things will ease a little bit for you. Maybe the universe will start to play with you. Maybe things will be a little bit more joyful. I'm not saying, like, this is going to cure everything, but when you feel in deep connection with something bigger than yourself, and this is my whole passion about spirituality, the world is just like you were saying, Irene. Things just flow. They just come in. You're not fighting the waves of life so hard. It's just a little bit easier.

[Rachel Dratch]

I love that.

[Irene Brevis]

I love that. Surrender. I love it.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Surrender. Let it go.

[Rachel Dratch]

Now.

We also did. I always feel silly doing this with practitioners of Woo Woo, but we do this pendulum reading too. I don't know if you know that.

[Tom Sykes]

Okay.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

I have a pendulum and I have dowsing rods. Oh, okay.

[Irene Brevis]

You know, then.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

I mean, not. Not here, but.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right. But if you want to ask a yes or no question, and keep it to yourself, and then we'll do our reading, and then you can reveal it. Are you cool with that?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, so do you want to think it and then you'll tell us after we get our answer?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Okay, I'm thinking it.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay. Okay. I got an instant answer. Irene. Hold on a second. Sometimes Irene and I don't match.

[Irene Brevis]

Wait, I got yes on this one, though.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, I got yes, too. We both got yes.

[Irene Brevis]

We both got yeses.

[Rachel Dratch]

What was your question?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

It was about my business venture that I'm, like, moving into more. And is it because I feel like I'm at a tipping point and I'm waiting for it to kind of really move forward.

[Rachel Dratch]

Well, we got a yes, so there, so. Okay, first of all, thank you so much for joining us, because this was so fun. I feel like we had the one, two punch of, like, usually we vary up the topic a little, but, like, I mean, they're different. But just like last week's. Plus this are both, like. Like, Irene. It's both, like, jetting us to go to higher consciousness.

[Irene Brevis]

That's right.

[Rachel Dratch]

We're to our higher self.

[Irene Brevis]

That's right. We're climbing etherically to tune in.

[Rachel Dratch]

That's tuning into you, Amy. Okay. Sorry, Irene, what were you gonna.

[Irene Brevis]

I just wanted to add, when you were talking about the lightning thing, when somebody got struck. When we were doing this podcast in the very beginning, I read an article, and I knew somebody personally. I knew somebody personally who got struck by lightning and then came back with, like, abilities.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Irene Brevis]

And then. But then I found this article that also supported that. So it's not surprising that the podcast that you're talking about, like, the whole thing, it's like your dad coming through Rachel through the cell phone. I just believe we're electric, we're energy, and we find our way through energy. And the fact that he got struck by lightning was just, like, this surge that opened up the energy field, and he brought back some abilities.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Well, and I think. I mean, I could just keep talking.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, no, please do, by the way. What were you gonna say?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

No, no, no. So I do think, like, energetically.

[Allie or Nat (Let's Get Haunted Hosts)]

Right.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

We are energetic beings, and so you can have an experience like that, but you can also have. I interviewed some guy who said he was on a massage table, and all of a sudden, he felt his body completely dissolve and felt completely one with the universe, and everything was unity. And then he, like, came back and had to go back to work and ended up in a whole bipolar episode because of it. But there are are so many people that have these awakenings. They have these. It's not necessarily a near death experience, but it can. That's one. But there are so many others and they don't know how to integrate them. They don't know how to make sense of it. Like, I heard the. I wish. I can't remember her name. The woman who was just on last week.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, Ellen. Where?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Ellen. Ellen. But Ellen was saying like she was 12 when it happened, she said. And she didn't speak about it until she was 30. I mean, this is part of why I'm so. Why the business that I asked about where you got the. Yes. Why I'm so passionate about it is because how many people are out there walking around, they've had these experiences and they don't know how to integrate them. And they go to therapy because they're depressed because they had a near death experience and they like saw the world differently. But now they're back here living in this material space and time and they're like, oh, no, now what? How do I make sense of that? They don't know how. And the therapists don't know how because the therapists don't know that these experiences exist. And if they do, they don't know if they believe them or not. And if they do, then they don't know what to do with them. So it's just like I was listening to her thinking and this is exactly why I'm so passionate about what I want to do, because I want people to be able to go to their therapist and say, listen, I miss my dad terribly, but look at what just happened. Like, he had this. He's communicating with me through my phone. And the therapist not going, all right, like, here's the name of the psychiatrist you need to talk to. Or that's wishful thinking. Or, oh, you're just grieving and you're creating something in your mind that's not. No, this is real. This is very, very real.

[Irene Brevis]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

Do people seek you out specifically knowing that you are open? Like, are you kind of known in your practice? I mean, I'm sure you have regular practice happening, but.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Do people know about this and seek you now?

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Yes, more so, for sure. And now people are starting to say, like, I want us. I call it. My course is called spiritually informed therapy. They're like, I want a spiritually informed therapist. And it's because people want to be able to talk about this. It's such an important part of people's journeys. It's such an important part of their healing. And we shouldn't be cutting it off. We should be encouraging them, not just bypassing their emotions. But this can be a real part of it.

[Rachel Dratch]

So tell us the name of your pod again. If people want to go listen, sure.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

It's life, death, and the space between.

[Rachel Dratch]

Life, death, and the space between.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

And it is a very robust library. Some storytelling, a lot of research, a combination conscious. Oh, and you were saying earlier, like, I talk to people who talk about, like, seeing extraterrestrial light beings and traveling, channeling, you know, inter spirits. All of it. All of it. So I. I am willing to go. I just had someone on a couple weeks ago who talked about, like, these interdimensional light beings that were in her living room. I'm like, okay, who am I to say that's not possible?

[Rachel Dratch]

All right. There's a full menu on board and research scientists.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

So I cover all of it. I cover all of it.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much. This was so fun and informative.

[Dr. Amy Robbins]

Thank you.

[Rachel Dratch]

Spiritually uplifting. Great. And you can find me on Instagram at Raydrach, that's R A E Dratch. And you can find Irene at Irenebremis.

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