Kevin Cahoon: The Ghost of Hell’s Kitchen + Series Recap

Summary

Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch

Episode: Kevin Cahoon: The Ghost of Hell’s Kitchen + Series Recap
Air Date: October 15, 2025
Host: Rachel Dratch
Co-host: Irene Bremes
Guest: Kevin Cahoon
Special Guest (via phone): Josh

Episode Overview

This episode serves as both a special series recap in celebration of the podcast’s two-year anniversary and a “re-up” of the very first episode, featuring beloved Broadway actor Kevin Cahoon. Rachel, Irene, and Kevin revisit the show's origins, recount standout moments and favorite stories, and, most memorably, tell a chilling, corroborated ghost story from Hell’s Kitchen. In typical Woo Woo fashion, the episode blends humor, skepticism, friendship, and genuine spookiness. The team also teases upcoming adventures in Salem, Massachusetts for Halloween.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Celebrating Two Years of Woo Woo (00:47–06:20)

• Rachel and Irene kick off with gratitude for listeners, guests, and reviewers.
• The show’s origins are discussed with a mix of humility and humor.
• They highlight fan-favorite episodes, including Tara Davis’ time travel story and episodes featuring Amy Poehler, Jeff Hiller, and Leah DeLaria.
• Irene describes the podcast as a “smorgasbord of Woo Woo.”
  • Quote: “It really is. It’s a smorgasbord of Woo Woo.” — Irene (05:59)

The Origin Story of Rachel & Irene’s Woo Woo Partnership (09:05–12:21)

• Rachel and Irene are high school friends who bond over both everyday and other-worldly topics.
• Irene’s “gift” is introduced: using a pendulum for divination and big life decisions.
  • Pendulum basics: “A weighted object, usually a crystal…you hold it and if it turns clockwise, the answer is yes; counterclockwise, no.” — Irene (10:14)
  • Irene became locally famous for using her pendulum (“Penji”) to predict football outcomes, leading to a Huffington Post article.

Kevin Cahoon: Broadway Bona Fides & Friendship (12:21–18:17)

• Rachel recaps Kevin’s impressive stage career, including roles in The Lion King, Hedwig and the Angry Inch, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and Shucked.
• The story of Rachel and Kevin meeting during the ill-fated Broadway hopeful "Minsky’s" and fostering a lasting friendship.

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Notable Woo Woo Stories

Rachel’s Prophecy: A Psychic Reading Predicts Her Future (18:17–26:18)

• Rachel recounts visiting a channeler named Shelly/Kendra in LA.
  • Kendra predicted that “Minsky’s” would not go to Broadway—which was proven correct.
  • Most astonishingly, Kendra predicted Rachel would “meet someone in three months and have one child.” Four months later, Rachel met her now-partner and eventually learned she was pregnant at age 43, against all odds.
• Quote: “And then like, later that day ... I remembered the prophecy ... I think I’m going to have this baby because Kendra said I was gonna have a child.” — Rachel (25:18)
• Both Kevin and Irene later had readings with Kendra; Kevin’s friend Kate received a prophetic reading about eventually becoming a judge on “High School Musical: The Series”—which came true ten years later.

Irene’s Reading: Suspicion, Comedy, and Waiting for Destiny (28:21–30:25)

• Irene’s phone reading with Kendra left her suspicious but also offered eerily accurate personal details.
• Kendra predicted she’d reach the “pinnacle” of her career—still open!

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The Main Event: Kevin Cahoon’s Ghost of Hell’s Kitchen (33:10–40:12)

Setting the Scene

• Kevin and his then-boyfriend Josh lived in a historic Hell’s Kitchen walk-up, “one of the most haunted neighborhoods in the world” (33:32).
• Kevin describes the ghost tour that regularly passes by their courtyard.

The Encounter

• One night, around 3am, both Kevin and Josh awoke to the sight of a bearded man in a red flannel shirt standing at the foot of their bed.
  • Kevin: “I sense someone in the room...I see this person, and it’s a male in a red flannel shirt...” (35:25–35:43)
  • Confirmation: “Josh grabs my hand and says, ‘Do you see him? Do you see that guy?’” (36:09)
• Upon speaking, the apparition vanished.
• The next morning, both recalled the exact same details (red flannel, beard, “seafarer” vibe).
  • Quote: “That is just crazy.” — Irene (36:48)
• After inviting the ghost to say hi (perhaps unwisely), lights in the apartment began flickering.

Pet Sensitivity

• Josh’s chihuahua, RJ, would occasionally growl at empty corners, unsettling everyone.
  • Quote: “That’s why I don’t want to own a dog sometimes ... Pets can pick up on the supernatural, which is very scary.” — Irene (37:43)

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PROOF: Josh Joins the Call (42:47–48:18)

• Rachel and Kevin call Josh to confirm the ghost story in real time.
  • Josh tells a consistent version, recalling the “plaid shirt,” and recaps how both saw (and were terrified by) the apparition.
    • Josh: "I woke up and there was a man standing at the foot of the bed. In my mind, he was wearing plaid, I think. I, like, jumped up and said 'Oh my God'... Just as I said that, he disappeared." (43:21–43:29)
  • Josh shares a bonus chilling tale: weeks prior, he suddenly mourned RJ (the late dog), and during a workout soon after, a Polaroid photo taken by a trainer revealed the ghostly image of RJ at his feet.
    • Kevin: "That is RJ. Because RJ came into Josh’s life when we were together." (47:25)
  • The team reacts with shock—this is tangible, photographic evidence of the supernatural for the first time on the show.
    • Rachel: “That's just insane...we're going to have to find a way to show this (photo).” (48:07–48:15)

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Reflecting on the Woo Woo Way (50:57–54:03)

• Rachel, Kevin, and Irene discuss openness to signs and manifestations.
  • Kevin: “When you see signs, it gives you a little helium in your life. It gives you a little pep in your step, it pushes you along...” (51:24–51:36)
• Kevin admits enjoying psychics, but isn’t sure if he wants more supernatural visitations.

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The Pendulum Reading: Will "Shucked" Continue? (52:47–53:40)

• The show’s trademark: Irene’s pendulum reads “yes” to Kevin’s question, "Will Shucked, the Broadway musical, run into the year 2024?"
  • “A resounding yes!” (53:36)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “This is a smorgasbord of Woo Woo.” — Irene (05:59)
• “Do you see him? Do you see that guy?” — Josh (36:09)
• “That’s the thing about the pendulum...for very important decisions.” — Irene (10:14)
• “When you see signs, it gives you a little helium in your life.” — Kevin (51:24)
• [On the photo of RJ]: “That is a full tilt dog.” — Rachel (47:18)
• “You broke up as a throuple. The throuple ended there.” — Rachel (44:59)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:47–06:20: Podcast anniversary, recap, favorite stories
• 09:05–12:21: Pendulum/woo-woo tools origin
• 12:21–18:17: Kevin’s Broadway background and friendship origin
• 18:17–26:18: Rachel’s psychic reading that foretold her future
• 33:10–40:12: Kevin’s Hell’s Kitchen ghost story
• 42:47–48:18: On-air corroboration and the ghost dog Polaroid
• 50:57–54:03: Reflections on signs, manifestations, and skepticism
• 52:47–53:40: Irene’s pendulum prediction for “Shucked”

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Coming Up Next

• Announcement: Rachel and Irene are taking a “field trip” to Salem, MA for a Halloween special filled with spooky interviews and adventures. (06:20)

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Episode Tone & Community Feel

The episode maintains a friendly, comedic, and inclusive tone—a hallmark of Rachel Dratch’s style. The supernatural stories are told with warmth but not sensationalism; skepticism and belief are given equal space, and laughter punctuates both fear and fascination. This balance invites listeners, skeptical or not, to leave with a sense of wonder and community.

Closing note:
This foundational episode encapsulates why fans keep listening—genuine connections, openness to the unknown, relatable guests, and a willingness to laugh at (and with) all things Woo Woo.

Transcript

[Kevin Cahoon]

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[Rachel Dratch]

Hello and welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch here with friends, pal, co host, confidant and beloved Irene Bremes.

[Irene Bremes]

Hi sweetie.

[Rachel Dratch]

Thank you. Extra special intro because this is our little intro chat because we're coming up on our two year with Rachel dress amazing two years.

[Irene Bremes]

I'm so excited.

[Rachel Dratch]

That is two years of woo woo. So we wanted to thank everyone Consider myself a particularly woo person but I just joining us hearing your new stories. Welcome to our home. A few woo Woo stories.

[Irene Bremes]

Thank you for all the lovely reviews we're getting.

[Rachel Dratch]

Always forget to even change the five star rating of every nice review. We really do read your review.

[Irene Bremes]

They do and we appreciate that with my take.

[Rachel Dratch]

By the way Irene Bremes. Irene, say hello.

[Irene Bremes]

Hello everybody.

[Rachel Dratch]

So Irene and I read the assholes too anyway no very cool things but we talk about everything. We have laughs. We have wisdom ladies. So anyway here we are. That's amazing. But anyways way back we're thinking that.

[Irene Bremes]

You have.

[Rachel Dratch]

Stories suggestions here starter pack. Get ahead of myself if you want to go back and listen to some now first of all we love all of our guests and we thank everyone who has joined us.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Cool.

[Rachel Dratch]

I should say over the years you've had some call it a gift. Stand up really funny ones. Whatever you love which we're going to be like oh my gosh at the end. I love Leah DeLaria. I'm going to listen to that with let's talk about a few. Tell us about you and really like changed our world like there's a few that made me like there's no way definition changing how I view the world.

[Irene Bremes]

Is a weighted one that comes to.

[Rachel Dratch]

Mind before but one that comes to mind is the Tara Davis time travel episode.

[Irene Bremes]

The answer is check that one out and when it turns another one clockwise.

[Rachel Dratch]

The answer is no. No you get a creepy ghost story.

[Irene Bremes]

What's no but generally for my pendulum love his story is and we cannot use it all the time Rachel for very important decisions.

[Rachel Dratch]

So you've told me there's no explanation but that there's a ghost. What is the origin bottom line, a ghost. Check it out. And things from way back when or do we even know.

[Irene Bremes]

Am I saying that right?

[Rachel Dratch]

He's the only guest to have been on two times because he's got that much woo woo. But his second episode is a fantastic diagnosis. That's pretty woo woo. But the first one he did is a story about when she was in the huff pos Check this out. It was very funny story. All this have a lot of a whole football season.

[Irene Bremes]

We have a lot of laughs when we even teams that weren't favor we always use lobster.

[Rachel Dratch]

Tell me take pen and that one's called pack for projection.

[Irene Bremes]

That's a wonderful question. It's a great question, Rachel. Well, I hang out with a bunch of gamblers. I found out that I had a they're degenerate gambler. She's an enabler. So what I did is I used Penji to kick me just to make it creepier.

[Rachel Dratch]

Anyway, what about you? Like where were you when this got so he asked Skills.

[Irene Bremes]

You know I some of the stories like Tara Davis and Lis Kowski were that was also very extraordinary. He won some dad never hit me off or anything. So I'm done with that. This man was not woo at all. He's very private in New Jersey. That's right. We do.

[Rachel Dratch]

So speaking of why don't we bring on oh and then just. We've had a lot of fun episodes too. Just like pals hanging out.

[Josh]

Of course.

[Rachel Dratch]

Amy Poehler's is very fun. She's a. She's a skeptic. I mentioned her on here a lot but that was a really fun one. And then. Oh my gosh. We loved recent Emmy winner Jeff Hiller.

[Kevin Cahoon]

That was fun.

[Irene Bremes]

She was so much fun.

[Rachel Dratch]

A lot of laughs in that one too. And I don't know, maybe we manifested something. I don't know. Listen to the episode and you'll find out how he possibly manifested his Emmy on our show. I'm not taking any credit. No credit taken by me. But it's a fun story of his rise to success. And he's just so funny.

[Irene Bremes]

He's delightful.

[Rachel Dratch]

So are there any. I mean of course we want to like thank everyone for being A guest on our show. I don't know if we're. Oh, we've had some, like, fun artists come on and hear about artistic process. We've covered so many areas of Woohoo. There's really something for everyone, isn't there?

[Irene Bremes]

Irene really is. It's a smorgasbord of Woo Woo. It really is.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes.

[Irene Bremes]

Of Woohoo.

[Rachel Dratch]

So thank you everyone for listening and.

[Irene Bremes]

Thank you for listening, sweeties. Thank you for continuing to show some love and listening to the episodes and writing reviews and keep doing what you're doing and keep us going and keep.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wooing what you're wooing. Woo hoo. Woo hoo. Well, for this week's episode, we are re upping our very first episode with my dear friend Kevin Cahoon. Now, I just did Amy Poehler's Good Hang podcast, and Kevin Cahoon is the friend of mine that Amy brought on at the beginning to ask some questions of me, unbeknownst to me, and he's a very dear friend of mine. A lot of you got to see his delightful self on Amy's podcast. So we figured we'd re up because it's one of our favorites. It's our very first one. He tells a really good New York ghost story. And we also have a lot of laughs because Irene exposes that she's afraid to get a pet due to the fact that it will bring supernatural spirits into her home. And, well, I'll have to let you listen to that. But also, since it's our very first episode, we sort of like intro our whole relationship with Woo Woo. And I kind of ended inadvertently tell a story that I didn't plan on telling right then and there. But it's about when I went to a channeler and she predicted something that came true for me that might have set me off on my whole course of Woo Woo. But anyway, check it out. And also in two weeks, Irene and I are doing a field trip to our home state of Massachusetts. We're going to go to Salem, Massachusetts, in honor of Halloween, and we're gonna do interviews and have a whole Halloweeny time there in Salem. So that's coming up in two weeks. It's kind of our first big field trip episode. So listen for that to get in the spirit of Halloween. And for now, we take you to this episode with Kevin Cahoon. Welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch, the podcast that explores the unexplained with humor and curios. Hello and welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch. This is our very first episode. Very excited to be here. I don't consider. I just feel like a need for this disclaimer. I don't consider myself a particularly Woo Woo person, but I do love hearing a Woo Woo story. And over the years, I even have encountered a few Woo Woo stories of my own that have happened to me. And I always love hearing other people tell them too. And some of them really stick with me and sort of even change my whole view of everything. So I thought, oh, this would be fun to talk about. I'm here with my friend and co host, by the way, Irene Bremes. Irene, say hello.

[Irene Bremes]

Hello, everybody.

[Rachel Dratch]

And so Irene and I went to high school together. We're buddies from way back when. And so, yeah, and sometimes we talk about Woo Woo things, but we talk about everything. We have laughs, we have wisdom, we have conversations, we shared, lady advice, all that stuff.

[Irene Bremes]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

So anyway, here we are. And I sort of gathered up my friends and people I've met in passing till I've tracked down people from way back when who've told me, you have a really.

[Irene Bremes]

Yeah, you have quite the impressive Rolodex with Woowoo stories.

[Rachel Dratch]

Well, that's the thing. The few of them that really stuck with me. I like, tracked the person I was like this story. Okay. But anyway, I get ahead of myself now, Irene, I should mention, though, in terms of you and Woo Woo, you do have kind of a funny tool, I should say. You.

[Kevin Cahoon]

You have.

[Rachel Dratch]

You have a gift. Let's call it a gift.

[Irene Bremes]

A gift.

[Rachel Dratch]

It is a gift.

[Irene Bremes]

Thank you, Rachel.

[Rachel Dratch]

And it comes from something called the pendulum, which we're going to be asking guests at the end of each episode.

[Irene Bremes]

Episode, we're going to do a little reading.

[Rachel Dratch]

If they have a reading that's correct. That's a good way to say. So tell us about you and the pendulum. First of all, if anyone doesn't know, a pendulum is basically. Well, I know. You know what a pendulum is, as by definition, but in Woo Woo world.

[Irene Bremes]

Is a weighted object, usually a crystal, and it comes on a little chain. You hold it with your fin, and when it turns clockwise, the answer is yes. And when it turns counterclockwise, the answer is no. Now, you can ask it what's yes, what's no. But generally for my pendulum, yes is clockwise and counterclockwise is no. And you know, I use it all the time, Rachel, for ac. For very important decisions. I do.

[Rachel Dratch]

I know. So you've told me. No, I have two questions. One is, what is the Origin of the pendulum. Do we even know? Like, I mean, is this something from. From way back when or do we.

[Irene Bremes]

Even know it's used for dowsing? Dowsing. Am I saying that right? Dowsing? Yeah, I think when they try to find water. Water, exactly.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, okay.

[Irene Bremes]

And then people were using it for medical purposes to find out if important diagnosis.

[Rachel Dratch]

You use a pendulum instead of going to the doctor.

[Irene Bremes]

I got mine from Amazon.

[Rachel Dratch]

Do not listen to this. But instead of going to the doctor, you could just use a pendulum. And by the way, you had some article written up.

[Irene Bremes]

I gave not to brag.

[Rachel Dratch]

I really not to brag. But she was in the Huff Post.

[Irene Bremes]

That's right, sweetie.

[Rachel Dratch]

And it was because you picked all correct. Like a whole football season where Penji picked every winning streak, even teams that weren't favored to win.

[Irene Bremes]

That's right. Winning streak.

[Rachel Dratch]

Tell me. Okay, first of all, how did you come about. How did you take Penji and apply it to football, for one thing. And second of all, how did this get known?

[Irene Bremes]

That's a wonderful question.

[Rachel Dratch]

Enough to be reported?

[Irene Bremes]

That is a great question, Rachel. Well, I hang out with a bunch of gamblers that found out that I had a pendulum.

[Rachel Dratch]

Really?

[Irene Bremes]

They're degenerate gambler. She's an enabler. So what I did is I used Penji to pick the winning teams. And is that for real? This absolutely is true. Football season is very, very busy for Penji. Very busy.

[Rachel Dratch]

But what about for you? Like, where were you when this.

[Irene Bremes]

Now, I just mentioned it to a friend of mine.

[Rachel Dratch]

So he asked you, please apply your penny skills to this game.

[Irene Bremes]

And I did.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Irene Bremes]

Winning streak. And he's also a writer and he wrote the article for me.

[Rachel Dratch]

So Penji picked the entire winning.

[Irene Bremes]

That's right.

[Rachel Dratch]

And did he win a lot of money or did you or I think.

[Irene Bremes]

He won some money. I didn't win anything. He never hit me off a percentage or anything. And I'm very upset about that. So I'm done with him.

[Rachel Dratch]

But all right. Well, we do have your SK to answer the questions of our guests.

[Irene Bremes]

That's right, we do.

[Rachel Dratch]

So speaking of, why don't we bring on our very first guest, Irene? My guest today is a dear friend of mine. He's a star of Broadway currently. You can see him in Shocked playing the role of Peanut, for which he was nominated for a Tony Award.

[Josh]

Amazing.

[Rachel Dratch]

I'm very happy for him and very proud of him. And he's also an all around great guy. And everyone on Broadway knows this guy. Kevin Cohen.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Hi, Rach. Hi, Irene.

[Rachel Dratch]

Welcome to Woo Hype.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Thank you for having me.

[Rachel Dratch]

Truly. So Kevin, you are. Oh my gosh. Like, everyone loves Kevin.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Rachel Petunia. Dratch. I call Rachel Petunia.

[Rachel Dratch]

I have nicknames.

[Irene Bremes]

You have a lot of nicknames.

[Rachel Dratch]

And Petunia and. Okay, go ahead.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I remember when you had this idea when you said extraordinary. You know what? Yes. You were like, I have this idea and I have all these great stories and I've collected all these great stories and I think I should share them with the world. And I was like 100%. And now look at us sitting at.

[Irene Bremes]

The table, substantial view.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Who needs a dream board?

[Rachel Dratch]

Universe. That was a lot. That was a lot. Okay, who needs a dream board? Okay, so that's awesome. Well, I forgot about that. Okay, good to know. Well, Kevin Coon is. I'm going to call you the glue of Broadway. You're really holding the whole place together.

[Irene Bremes]

Amazing.

[Rachel Dratch]

With all of his connections. No. You ask anyone on the Great White Way. Do you know Kevin Coon? Everyone says, oh my gosh, yes, I love him. And then all of his friends, it's like some big amoeba that keeps getting bigger. He collects friends and then those friends become friends and he's at the center of it all.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I've just been around a long time.

[Rachel Dratch]

I think that's a good question. Well, you're also very kind and you give out very good energy. Not to get all woo woo, but you have a light around you, shining, wonderful energy.

[Irene Bremes]

Yes.

[Kevin Cahoon]

That is really sweet.

[Rachel Dratch]

Let me say that not only are you unshucked Tony nominated performance and shocked.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Following in your footsteps, Rachel.

[Rachel Dratch]

Thank you for saying that.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Just, I was a year late, I was a year after, but I, I got it done.

[Rachel Dratch]

Was anyone else in the room? Okay, so. Okay, so. But not only that, Kevin, as you said, you've been around a long time in this showbiz industry that chews us up and spits us out, but just to name a few of your credits, you were in the original cast of Lion King on Broadway.

[Kevin Cahoon]

That is true.

[Rachel Dratch]

What was your part that you played?

[Kevin Cahoon]

I played Ed the hyena.

[Rachel Dratch]

Of course you did.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes, I did.

[Rachel Dratch]

And you replaced John Cameron Mitchell in Hedwig, right? I did.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I did one show a week for John and then I had my own run. Then you had your own.

[Rachel Dratch]

What theater was that at?

[Kevin Cahoon]

The Jane Street Theater, Off Broadway. The original.

[Rachel Dratch]

And how long did you do Hedwig for?

[Kevin Cahoon]

Cumulatively, probably two years. I did two stints in New York, I did Boston, I did the Edinburgh Festival, I did San Francisco for nine months. So it was a long, wonderful part of my life.

[Rachel Dratch]

And then you've also done many more Broadway and off Broadway shows, to name a few. I've been the wedding singer. Don't say I've been lucky. Well, you've been skilled.

[Irene Bremes]

Thank you.

[Kevin Cahoon]

There's a little luck involved, right? There's a little woo Woo.

[Rachel Dratch]

But there's a little woo Woo. But also a lot of talent.

[Irene Bremes]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Little brains, a little talent. Okay. Musical theater geek. So wedding singer Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

[Kevin Cahoon]

That's true.

[Rachel Dratch]

He played the child catcher in the Musical. And he was so scared. That was before I knew him. And he was, like, so creepy and scary.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Very creepy. Hour and a half in the.

[Irene Bremes]

Which is hard to imagine.

[Rachel Dratch]

An hour and a half in the makeup chair. Every show, we're getting new stuff on this record.

[Irene Bremes]

Hey, y'. All.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes. I didn't show up till the very end of the first act, so I didn't have to come in an hour and a half. They spent the entire first act completing the look.

[Rachel Dratch]

And then what about taking it off? Was there prosthetics?

[Kevin Cahoon]

It was all prosthetics. Yeah. It was easy to take off, you know.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah.

[Irene Bremes]

Whoa.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay. And many other shows. I don't know if there's any that you feel. Oh, and then also TV Glow and Monarch.

[Kevin Cahoon]

That's true. Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

And the way that we met now, this is kind of developing so that I talk about a little bit of showbiz at the beginning and how I met today's woo Woo guest. And so Kevin and I met in this show called Minsky's that was supposed to go to Broadway but didn't.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Right.

[Rachel Dratch]

And it was on track to go to Broadway. It had a lot of pedigree behind it.

[Kevin Cahoon]

A ton of pedigree.

[Rachel Dratch]

The music was by Charles Strauss, who wrote Annie.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Have you ever heard of him? Heard of Annie?

[Rachel Dratch]

Heard of Bye Bye Bye Bye Annie? Well, then you love Minsky's. No. Okay. It didn't work out like that.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Okay, then also Casey Nicholaw, Tony Award winning director, choreographer. This cast was incredible.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yep.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Susan Burgenan, design team. Crazy design team. Greg Barnes, costumes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Anyway, we went to LA to do the out of Town at the Ahmanson Theater, and we had a few readings in town. Everything. And that's how I met Kevin, because we were both in this show.

[Kevin Cahoon]

That's right.

[Rachel Dratch]

And then we got to live in LA for three months.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Three months.

[Rachel Dratch]

Maybe 2009.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah. It was a dream.

[Rachel Dratch]

And we were performing at this big Ahmanson Theatre. It was really fun. And that's when how we met. Well, the show did not go, but our friendship.

[Irene Bremes]

Friendship continues.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Continues to this day a thousand percent.

[Rachel Dratch]

Better than any Broadway.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I didn't need a Broadway run. I didn't. I just need.

[Rachel Dratch]

You need a trash run by my side.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And I did not let you. I told you you were not getting away from me in how many years?

[Rachel Dratch]

Thank goodness. So yeah, that's how we met. And also now there is a little bit of a woo Woo story attached to this. This is funny. So when I was in LA, I was. Yeah, this. So it was my, my 43rd birthday and a friend of mine took me for my birthday, like as a gift, took me to see this channeler.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

While, while we were doing the show and everything. And so there's a whole story about her, this woman who channels a spirit named Kendra.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Fascinating.

[Rachel Dratch]

Like you do. And so you go and you see Kendra and who answers the door is Shelly, who's a kind of like a Midwestern looking lady. I don't know. Yes, she was. She was older than us House. And she seemed very sort of down to earth. But then you sit down with her and then she looks down and then she looks back up and suddenly she is Kendra. And she talks like this, in this kind of. What kind of accent is this?

[Irene Bremes]

I've had a reading with her and.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I have as well.

[Rachel Dratch]

After, after I did this, then I had such an amazing reading that then you guys both went. Yes, and we'll talk about that in a moment. But Kendra told me a lot of stuff that came true. I mean, the craziest thing she told me. Do I say this now?

[Irene Bremes]

Yes.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I will say that Rach and I had pre show dressing room time. Every performance. We would meet in her dressing room probably a half an hour before. Half hour to sit and talk, catch up on the day.

[Rachel Dratch]

And we would spill the tea.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And this was the tea that was spilled on that day. Wow.

[Rachel Dratch]

But now, before, as we've said, before the spill, the tea did not exist as an expression. We would just.

[Irene Bremes]

Expression.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah. We were spinning the yarn. We were. What would the kids say then?

[Rachel Dratch]

But. But chewing the facts.

[Irene Bremes]

No, that's old. I'm showing my age.

[Rachel Dratch]

So anyway, so I had asked one little question. I asked. Kendra was at the end, she's like, do you have any question? I said, will this show go to Broadway? And Kendra said, no, it won't. So I came back and I told Kevin asked, did she say anything about the show? And I was like, oh, well, actually she said it's a no dice. And then we were kind of laughing about it. But she was right.

[Josh]

She was.

[Kevin Cahoon]

But we, we were laughing because we were like, oh, they've spent $10 million on this show and there's a cast of 40 people.

[Irene Bremes]

Kendra's a charlatan. How could she be telling the truth?

[Kevin Cahoon]

I mean, they're measuring the drapes at the St. James Theater on Broadway and.

[Rachel Dratch]

But the spirits would not have it. The spirits did not want the show to go to Broadway, apparently.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Wow.

[Rachel Dratch]

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[Josh]

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[Rachel Dratch]

Now also, Kendra told me okay, at the end of the reading, she Told me. I said, well, am I gonna meet anybody? Because, you know, I was 43, 43rd birthday, single. So young as the day is long. So young and fresh.

[Irene Bremes]

Yes, let's be honest.

[Rachel Dratch]

But anyway, she said, you're gonna meet someone in three months. She's like, nope, wait three to six months. And I said, well, am I gonna have to do anything to meet this person? Like, you know, go online or whatever? And she's like, no, nope, you're not gonna have to do anything. And then she said, and you're gonna have one child, okay? Now I'm 43, okay. I'm not even seeing anybody.

[Irene Bremes]

Right.

[Rachel Dratch]

And of course I like, I want. Not. Of course, some people don't want kids. I always thought I'd have kids. It just. I didn't think I was. I wasn't gonna do it on my own. I was sort of decided. Although now knowing what I know, I would flip flop on that. But that's a whole other podcast, I'm sure. Anyway. But anyway, so I was like, I want a kiss, but I can't of the idea. And so it's my 43rd birthday and she tells me I'm gonna have a kid. And I wasn't like, oh, I guess I was kind of like, I bet she says this to every chick who walks in here, you know? Yeah, I wasn't really. I was like, oh, that's kind of interesting. But I was like, maybe she means I'm gonna adopt somebody I don't really know.

[Irene Bremes]

Right.

[Rachel Dratch]

I did not take it to heart. Well, four months later, because she said three. No, wait, six.

[Kevin Cahoon]

She was an amendment.

[Rachel Dratch]

I have chills every time.

[Irene Bremes]

I have chills with this one too. It's extraordinary.

[Rachel Dratch]

My arms.

[Irene Bremes]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

I meet John in a bar around the corner from my house, and he was in town visiting for a job. And anyway, I met him, it was like, boop. Like, I just walked up. This is kind of interesting, but there was no the service. It was a bar right on the corner. Service was super slow, sitting outside, so I went inside to get our drinks. It was me and this friend of mine. There's a whole. There's a whole bunch of woo woo around this whole thing, right? Well, I'm way off track of Kevin Cahoon, but no, listen, okay, so I go in to order drinks because the service was slow. I'm always like, if the service hadn't.

[Irene Bremes]

Been slow, he would have thought.

[Rachel Dratch]

And there was John. There he was with his. His niece and her boyfriend and then just started talking, like, because they were about to order absinthe, and he's like, have you ever ordered. Have you ever tried absinthe? And I was like, no. Oh, my God. I tried it once. Oh, my gosh. No. We start chatting, they come outside and join us, blah, blah. We end up. So I end up in this long distance dating situation with John because he.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Was on the West Coast.

[Rachel Dratch]

He lived on the West Coast?

[Irene Bremes]

Yep.

[Rachel Dratch]

Anyway, cut to later on that year.

[Irene Bremes]

Wow.

[Rachel Dratch]

Well, I won't go into all the details. I mean, I won't go into. You buy her book. Oh, yeah. Girl Walks in New York. Anyway, long story short, I discover that I'm pregnant, and it's. I'm now almost 44.

[Irene Bremes]

Wow.

[Rachel Dratch]

I was completely.

[Irene Bremes]

Come on, sweetie.

[Rachel Dratch]

There's a lot of stuff I'm leaving out about this. In any case, when I was like, I was so shocked. Shock of my life. And then like, later that day, I. You know, when I was making panic calls to friends, I. I remembered the prophecy, right. And I remembered what Kendra had said, and I was like, oh, my gosh. I think, like, you know, because sometimes when you're older, you don't know if it's gonna stick. But I was like, I think I'm gonna have this baby because Kendra said I was gonna have a child.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

And sure enough, I did. And I have my son, my lovely son, eli, who's now 13.

[Kevin Cahoon]

We love Eli the Great.

[Rachel Dratch]

It all started with a reading from Kendra, the channeler.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Now I feel like I was right there for breaking news, because the minute she had heard, she came to the theater and I heard the prophecy right away.

[Irene Bremes]

That really is to not only hear the prophecy, but then to witness the prophecy being fulfilled, which it has come to pass.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Oh, my gosh.

[Rachel Dratch]

So then. But you guys both went. Now here's the weird thing. So since then, I've sent people to Kendra. Some have had, like. Well, you had a kind of interesting. Very interesting adjacent with your friend.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes. So I went with my friend Kate Reinders, who is an incredible actress. You may have seen her on High School Musical, the. The series on Disney for the past five years. And she plays the teacher on that TV show. So we go to Kendra. We're sitting there, we're doing a double reading, two for one. And I remember her saying to Kate, you are going to. I see you judging. Like, you're gonna be judging something. And it's in a theater, but yet there are television cameras around. But I don't know. It's for television, but it's in a theater. And you're judging. You're sitting at a desk and you're judging these people. So we thought, oh, she's gonna be a judge on a show. On a talent show show. No, she's the drama teacher on High School Musical. The. The series where she's sitting at a table on a stage judging the kids perform songs.

[Rachel Dratch]

She didn't get that till way after.

[Kevin Cahoon]

That was maybe after. This was probably ten years after.

[Rachel Dratch]

Ten years later.

[Irene Bremes]

Oh, wait, that makes me feel better about my reading.

[Rachel Dratch]

That's a big lag time, though. Yeah.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes. And then she also said it's not going to shoot in New York and it's not going to shoot in la. It's going to shoot somewhere else. It's shot in Utah.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, that's weird.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay, that's something.

[Kevin Cahoon]

We had this whole scenario that she was gonna be like, in the UK judging a talent show on tv.

[Rachel Dratch]

But wait, did she give you any predictions?

[Kevin Cahoon]

I can't remember. And I wish I could find the tape.

[Irene Bremes]

Oh, you taped it.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Tape was so, you know, vibrant. That. That's the marquee from our reading.

[Irene Bremes]

So what happened, like 10 years later? Was she like, oh, my gosh, Kendra was finally right.

[Rachel Dratch]

10 years seems like a long. I thought it was like that year you got the.

[Irene Bremes]

The four, six months.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah, this was fermenting a long time.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, now, what about. You did one, but you didn't.

[Irene Bremes]

Now I was very suspicious because I did mine over the phone. It was the time that we had access to, you know, just social Google and Googling. And so I felt like she researched me. But she did say some very eerily accurate things, which I was suspicious of. I'm thinking she's looking me up. Something about me being a comedian, whatever. And. But listen, I'm still waiting. Maybe that's it. Because she did say I was gonna be at the very top pinnacle, as she put it. Pinnacle's the word that she used. Kendra used the word pinnacle of your career. And that was 15 years ago.

[Rachel Dratch]

Well, now you gotta be encouraged by this ten year wait.

[Irene Bremes]

Yeah, exactly.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Oh, yeah.

[Irene Bremes]

This is encouraging. So I know that there's a possibility I can finally make it at 70. And that's exciting. That's something to live for. Because every day I wake up and I'm like, oh, you're still here. What's going on? So this is good. Thank you for that.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Listen, okay. Anything can happen.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wait, didn't she tell you? You asked if you were gonna. You were thinking of having kids.

[Irene Bremes]

Oh, I did. Okay, she did. And this is exactly what she said. And she wasn't wrong. And I say this, you know, she. She said, if you want to have. She told me I was gonna. If I wanted to have kids. I asked, am I gonna have kids? And she said, if you wanna have kids, you have to have sex. Because I was in a long time, you know, and the sex sort of dissipates as you get, you know, in that marriage situation. I don't know about. Are you with somebody presently?

[Kevin Cahoon]

No.

[Irene Bremes]

No. Well, it's just. Whatever. So she's right. You possibly. If we were more proactive about having sex a lot. Because you have to. Except for Rachel over here who just walks into a bar.

[Rachel Dratch]

Most amount of sex, least amount of sex, most amount of kids.

[Irene Bremes]

Anyway, so she's not wrong. And she was eerily accurate when she was describing me. But again, I was very suspicious. Like she googled Googled me, you know, sure. We had access to Google. So I'm like, wait a minute. You know? But so anyway, it's just encouraging to know that it could happen in the next five years.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Absolutely.

[Irene Bremes]

You know, and I'm gonna. I'm just gonna.

[Rachel Dratch]

You might have a kid in 15.

[Irene Bremes]

Hashtag substantial.

[Rachel Dratch]

Substantial.

[Irene Bremes]

I think that's.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And Kate always says too. When things are down and she feels down on the dumps and we feel that she's like, we gotta call Kendra. We gotta call Kendra because there's always.

[Irene Bremes]

Kendra on the show.

[Rachel Dratch]

Rach, maybe we should.

[Irene Bremes]

Yeah, I would love it.

[Rachel Dratch]

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[Josh]

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[Rachel Dratch]

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[Irene Bremes]

Yeah, so, yeah, okay, okay.

[Rachel Dratch]

Not to set this up too much, but. And thus begins our story.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes. Hell's Kitchen.

[Rachel Dratch]

Light the campfire, hold up your flashlights under your chins.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Okay, we need the.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, the scene, the scene. Hell's Kitchen.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Hell's Kitchen.

[Rachel Dratch]

New York City.

[Kevin Cahoon]

New York City. Do you know that Hell's Kitchen is one of the most haunted neighborhoods supposedly for real in the world?

[Rachel Dratch]

Really?

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Google it.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay. But this is a phenomenon.

[Irene Bremes]

I'm going to Google it.

[Rachel Dratch]

This is a phenomenon I'd like to bring up for the sake of this podcast. Every town wants to say they're the most haunted thing. Wilmington, North Carolina.

[Irene Bremes]

I've heard that before.

[Rachel Dratch]

Los Angeles, Hell's Kitchen.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Hell's Kitchen gets its name for a reason. Like, it was a tough, hard place to live, especially in the early 1900s, 1920s. People would not go over to that area. There was a lot of crime. You know, people were dying at the age of 40 of every disease you could imagine. Like, it was a tough, tough area, lower income. And I knew this because I had an apartment on 46th street in Hell's kitchen that overlooked a courtyard. And I would see this group of people walking by, and I would say, what is this group of people doing? I went out and I asked. It was a ghost tour. There's a famous ghost tour that walks down there. They go to this courtyard.

[Irene Bremes]

Let's do that. That sounds like fun.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Which they say is one of the most haunted courtyards in the world. Because people would commit suicide jumping into the courtyard because their lives were so hard.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, God. Back then.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I know. So my boyfriend Josh and I, at the time, he had an apartment on 49th. I had one on 46th. We were sleeping in his apartment on 49th street, which is, I would say, the year.

[Rachel Dratch]

I'm just making it more.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I would say it was probably 15 years ago ago, maybe 16 years ago.

[Rachel Dratch]

I would say it was 200 years ago. It felt like that this was my.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Fourth lifetime around business.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, so, okay, 15 years ago.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

49Th Street.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Hell's Kitchen.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Railroad apartment. Walk up, you know, probably built in, you know, 1890 or something. Go on brick walls.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Wooden floors.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes.

[Kevin Cahoon]

We're sleeves were lying there, and I sense someone in the room. Now, we've all had this feeling where you wake up and you think, someone's in the room. Is someone there? Is someone not there? Is someone there? And I'm lying there, and I see this person.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, my God.

[Irene Bremes]

Wow.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And it's a male, and they had, like, a red flannel shirt on and a beard, kind of like a seafarer, a fisherman kind of vibe to it. And I'm lying there, and I'm thinking, wake up. Wake up. Do you see this person? Do you see this person? Oh, my God, I do. He's standing at the foot of the bed. He's standing at the foot of the bed. The next thing I know, Josh grabs my hand and says, do you see him? Do you see that guy?

[Irene Bremes]

Okay, no, chills, chills, chills, factor 10. Chills, factor 10.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And it was terrifying.

[Irene Bremes]

Wow.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Our hearts were racing.

[Irene Bremes]

Both of you. Ripping.

[Rachel Dratch]

So did you think there was an intruder for a moment?

[Irene Bremes]

Right.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Well, because the minute he spoke, the image disappeared.

[Irene Bremes]

Wow. Okay.

[Kevin Cahoon]

So then we're just lying there, and we're, you know, hanging onto each other, and we just fall back asleep. Oh, my God. And then the next morning, Josh was like, what happened last night? Do you remember that guy that we both saw at the same time? And I was like, yes. And he was like, the red flannel shirt. And I was like, yes, the red flannel shirt.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay. That is just crazy.

[Rachel Dratch]

And that's the name of this episode.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Now, the red flannel shirt. So let me tell you this, okay?

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Kevin Cahoon]

So then Josh would get real cute. Josh would get real cute and be like, hey, if you're around, why don't you just say hi to us? Just let us know. And the lights would flicker in the bookstage.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay, Josh, don't play. That's scary right there.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And I was like, no more. We're not calling him. And I said out loud, we appreciate you. We are glad you were around, but.

[Irene Bremes]

We don't wanna conjure you, daddy.

[Kevin Cahoon]

We like your red flannel shirt, Zad. Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

We like your bear energy.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Josh had a long haired Chihuahua named rj who was there as well. And RJ would look in the corner and gowl.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay, that's what. Scary. That's scary.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah. R.J. would look at nothing and growl and see.

[Irene Bremes]

That's why I don't want to own a dog sometimes. I want a dog terribly. I want pets. But pets can pick up on the supernatural, which is. Is very scary. Oh.

[Kevin Cahoon]

They also know when an earthquake's coming.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Irene Bremes]

I went rogue into Crazyville.

[Rachel Dratch]

You just took it too far. I'm. I'm still absorbing this story. And then I hear you over here talking about pet ownership. Okay, hold that thought. We're on this right now. Okay.

[Irene Bremes]

Oh, my God.

[Rachel Dratch]

I'm crying right now. Okay.

[Irene Bremes]

Jesus.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, so RJ is looking.

[Irene Bremes]

I'm seriously crying right now.

[Rachel Dratch]

RJ's looking in the corner growling. How often would that happen?

[Kevin Cahoon]

I mean, it's not a daily occurrence, but it would happen occasionally now.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, Okay.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I know, I know.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay. No, no. All right, sorry.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Cut to. Rachel's dog, Ruffles, is lying on his back, has never seen a spirit. Never seen a ghost.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, my God, no.

[Irene Bremes]

What's Ruffles doing now?

[Rachel Dratch]

So that night, though, did you go right back to sleep or were you like, were you creeped out?

[Kevin Cahoon]

We chatted for a second and then we felt. I mean, it was the dead of night. This is like 3am I can't stop crying right now.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay. This is very scary.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, okay, okay. So this is very.

[Irene Bremes]

Of course. That's like, you can't. We always like to ask our guests if they're on mushrooms or any sort of hallucinogenics when they're seeing these.

[Kevin Cahoon]

No, nothing at all.

[Rachel Dratch]

These are very drug free.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay.

[Rachel Dratch]

The most he'll ever do is a margarita.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Okay.

[Rachel Dratch]

And sometimes a Coke with absent Coke with ice.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I've always Wanted to try absinthe.

[Rachel Dratch]

Did you say things? Maybe that's. No. Like in Moulin Rouge, Like Frankenstein? No, I've. I only tried absinthe once, but I don't think. Cuz it's licorice flavored. It's like black licorice. And I. I don't do black licorice.

[Irene Bremes]

No, I don't either. I'm with you.

[Rachel Dratch]

I cannot do that.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And that is a true story. And it happened. And I can see it like I. It was yesterday now.

[Rachel Dratch]

I thought maybe this is wrong. I thought I remembered you saying that you saw this guy like other places or something. Something. No. Did I make that up? You only saw him that one time.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I only saw him that one time.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah. But I wonder if I could like, get Josh on the phone.

[Irene Bremes]

Do you think you could get him to corroborate the story?

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah. I mean, we're still friendly, of course. I love him very much.

[Rachel Dratch]

Does Josh still live in the apartment now?

[Kevin Cahoon]

No, Josh has since moved. But I don't even know what city he's in. But let me. I can try to see if he's around.

[Irene Bremes]

Oh, my God. That would be amazing corroborating.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yeah.

[Irene Bremes]

Wow.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Let me see. I'll send him a text first and be like, hey.

[Rachel Dratch]

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[Kevin Cahoon]

Josh, you're on speaker.

[Rachel Dratch]

Hi. Can you hear me?

[Josh]

I can.

[Rachel Dratch]

How are you? Good. How are you? Josh, will you say something so we can see if we can hear you?

[Josh]

Yeah, sure. I'm headed to Pilates.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, yeah, shoot. Okay.

[Josh]

No, it's okay. I'm just talking to talk.

[Rachel Dratch]

Is this okay if. If you corroborate the story on this? Is it cool with you? Okay. Okay. So Kevin just told us the story of you guys waking up and seeing this ghost in your room. And so we just wanted to know your. Your telling of the story, if you don't mind.

[Josh]

Yeah, I. I woke up and there was a man standing at the foot of the bed. In my mind, he was wearing plaid, I think.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Think.

[Josh]

And I. I, like, jumped up and I said, oh, my God. And then just as I said that, he sort of disappeared, or he did disappear. And then I just kind of went back to sleep. And then the next morning, Kevin said, do you remember yelling, oh, my God? And I said, yeah, there was somebody standing at the foot of the bed. And that's when Kevin said, I saw him too.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right. Okay.

[Josh]

And Kevin said. Kevin said he was laying there looking at this man going, oh, my God. And he was terrified, so he wasn't saying anything. Anything. And just then I jumped up and said, oh, my God.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes. And so I heard it. I thought that that moment happened in the middle of the night. But this was also a few years ago, right? Like. But yes.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah, it's been.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I mean, yeah, it's been a while, but we both.

[Josh]

My memory. So that's not exactly like.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And I just Said the plaid shirt, too. The flannel shirt. It was like a red flannel shirt.

[Josh]

I thought he had a beard.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And then I also said that you would be very, very cute, as you always were and are, but a few weeks later, you would say, like, hey, say hello to us. And do you remember the light in the living room?

[Josh]

Yes. Yes. We would try to talk to him and then the light would start flickering and then. Then that freaked Kevin out. So we sort of asked him to go away and not.

[Rachel Dratch]

And then you never. You never saw him again, or did.

[Josh]

You not when Kevin was around? Occasionally. Occasionally he would make the light flicker, but.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay. Okay.

[Josh]

He sort of left us once.

[Rachel Dratch]

Once.

[Josh]

Kevin was freaked about it. We backed off.

[Rachel Dratch]

You broke up as a throuple. The throuple. The throuple ended there.

[Josh]

Then I was just on my own.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, Josh, thank you so much. Wait.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Did you ever think that you would be doing this right now, today, on.

[Rachel Dratch]

Your way to Pilates?

[Josh]

No.

[Rachel Dratch]

I know. Sorry to.

[Josh]

But did you tell them? Did you tell them about the. The Polaroid?

[Rachel Dratch]

What?

[Irene Bremes]

What?

[Kevin Cahoon]

Oh, no, Josh, you've got to tell this. What?

[Josh]

Okay, so when I was with Kevin, we got a little tiny dog named rj, A little long haired Chihuahua, like the cutest thing you've ever seen. Rachel, you might have seen him back.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Josh]

But anyway, long hair, cute, blonde and white. Well, he passed away a couple years ago now, just before COVID And he.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And Josh were, like, inseparable, you know, they were like, truly.

[Josh]

He was my buddy. So he passed away and I, you know, I was so sad. But I've been really good about it lately. I've, you know, I've had. I'm like, over it, you know, now for a couple years. I've been fine. And all of a sudden, three weeks ago, I was brushing my teeth and I started thinking about when I had to put him down. And I just got so sad and I had like this physical, like, you know, where you're just like, type of thing.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. And.

[Josh]

And I just got so, so sad for one second. Then I was fine. And I got in a cab and I went to work out with a trainer. And so this is within an hour of having that reaction. The trainer picks up an old Polaroid camera and he just randomly takes a picture of me, like a Canon picture. And I can text it to you.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Josh]

Takes this random picture of me and then, like, throws it down for it to develop. And we kept working out. And I went over and looked at it. I saw this like, white spot on. On it. I was like, what's that? And I looked over, and there was nothing white over there in the room. And then when it developed, RJ was basically in the picture with me.

[Kevin Cahoon]

What? Yes.

[Josh]

Yes. I'm gonna send it to you right now because.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, my God.

[Josh]

I don't think I'm describing it.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Josh]

As well. RJ is at my feet. And when you see this picture, I.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Think I have it on my phone from when you sent it to me last week. So I'm going to show them this.

[Irene Bremes]

If I see a full specter of rj, I'm going to show.

[Josh]

Are you.

[Kevin Cahoon]

You ready? I'm gonna show them, Josh.

[Rachel Dratch]

Here you go. Oh, my. Are you.

[Kevin Cahoon]

What?

[Rachel Dratch]

That is a. That is a full tilt dog.

[Josh]

That's. It's not like it's a St. Bernard.

[Kevin Cahoon]

No, that is RJ. That is RJ. Because RJ came into Josh's life when we were. Oh, you know, together.

[Rachel Dratch]

My God.

[Irene Bremes]

I mean, that is a full on dog.

[Josh]

I'm sending you a picture of RJ now, just on his own.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Irene Bremes]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Isn't that wild?

[Irene Bremes]

It's incredible.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Okay, here we go.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay. Okay, I've seen enough.

[Rachel Dratch]

I've seen enough. We're believers. That's crazy.

[Kevin Cahoon]

That is.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wait, so he took that picture when you were in the gym, where.

[Josh]

Well, it's like his little workout.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay. His workout space. Yeah.

[Josh]

And there's. There's no dog in that room.

[Rachel Dratch]

That's just insane. Oh, my God. We're gonna have to find a way to show this. If you. With your permission, of course. We'll figure this out.

[Irene Bremes]

We're gonna have to.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, my God. That's crazy. Wow.

[Josh]

And just a side note, if you zoom in on my shirt, my shirt says wolf.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Just by chance, you put that on.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. There it is. Yes. Oh, wow. Woof. There it is. Wow. Wow. Oh, my gosh. Thank you for this bonus story. Okay. I didn't expect a vision of a beloved dog.

[Irene Bremes]

Now we have tangible proof of the ghost.

[Rachel Dratch]

Whoa. The specter of rj. Rj, thank you for the extra story and for the throuple story, too. That's amazing. Okay, thank you so much, Josh.

[Irene Bremes]

Thank you, Josh.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Have a great Pilates girl class.

[Josh]

Okay, I'm going to go sweat and Pilates.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, good.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Okay, bye.

[Josh]

Bye.

[Rachel Dratch]

Well, you've probably heard me talk about my dog Ruffles on here. Ruffles is becoming a big star. I mean, she's all over my Instagram. I'm going to have to get her an agent soon. I mean, we all know she's a member of the family, right? Well, this is a quick message from today's sponsor, the ASPCA pet Health Insurance program. You know, your pet's part of the family. You do pretty much anything for them, right? But those vet bills. Yeah, they can add up more quickly than you'd think. And that's why it's worth checking out ASPCA pet health insurance. Pet insurance can help manage the vet bills so you can focus on what really matters. Giving ear scratches, belly rubs and. Okay, sorry, I got carried away. I meant making sure your pet gets the care they need when they need it. Oh, and here's a little bonus. There's a perk for enrolling. When you enroll in an ASPCA pet health insurance plan, you could get a $25Amazon gift card. It's a little treat for you while you're doing something great for your pet. The program offers customizable accident and illness plans, making it easier to get your pet the care they may need. You can tailor your plan to fit your budget, your lifestyle, and your pet's particular quirks. Because big vet bills never show up when it's convenient, do this they. To Explore coverage, visit aspcapetinsurance.com woo. That's aspcapetinsurance.comeo. eligibility restrictions apply. Visit aspcapetinsurance.Com AmazonTerms for more info. This is a paid advertisement. Insurance is underwritten by either Independence American Insurance Company or United States Fire Insurance Company and produced by PTZ Insurance Agency Ltd. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance insurance. Now, have you had. What's your relationship to the, you know, woo, woo in your life? Like, I mean, what do you believe? What do you not believe?

[Kevin Cahoon]

Well, it's also like, if you're open to looking for signs and looking for things.

[Rachel Dratch]

That's a good point. Good for you.

[Kevin Cahoon]

They will appear. Right? You're putting. And you tell me things all the time that you pick up on, and you're a great manifesto master.

[Irene Bremes]

Oh, she is. I agree.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right now I feel like I'm. I'm a little down on my mojo right now.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay.

[Rachel Dratch]

It's not firing on all cylinders, but I gotta, I gotta like, shift that. Okay. Anyways, yeah.

[Kevin Cahoon]

You know, I. I find that when you see signs, it gives you a little helium in your life. It gives you a little pep in your step, it pushes you along, gives.

[Irene Bremes]

You a little helium in your Life.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wow.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Wow.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kevin Cahoon]

But I've always, I've always loved to, like, go to psychics and, you know, it's fun.

[Rachel Dratch]

There's something fun about it until it's not, as Irene and I both learned. But that's another episode for both of us.

[Kevin Cahoon]

The psychic stuff is kind of fun, but I, I don't know if I want to see a lot of it.

[Irene Bremes]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rachel Dratch]

I don't want any visitations except for the red flannel shirt.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Red flannel shirt. Well, I took a shirt right away.

[Rachel Dratch]

I was like, I wonder who's in the apartment now. Now, I don't know, 49th Street.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Should we do a on site episode?

[Rachel Dratch]

Perhaps we knock on the door of whoever's living there now with microphones, cameras in their faces and say, got any ghosts?

[Kevin Cahoon]

We hear there's a ghost here.

[Rachel Dratch]

Does these pendulum readings. She got this off Amazon and it's tells the future. And she's never wrong, apparently. Although, you know what? No one ever finds out because all we do on this show is ask the questions. So these, all these answers could be wrong every week. Well, we'll never know. You'll never know. We should do check ins.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Well, this didn't come from Amazon, so I, I, you know.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay, so it feels. Do you have a yes or no question you'd like to ask, Penji?

[Kevin Cahoon]

Yes, I do.

[Irene Bremes]

Okay. Are you thinking about it? Okay.

[Rachel Dratch]

I feel like I always want it to say yes because then I know. Okay, it's saying yes.

[Irene Bremes]

It said yes right there. But if it has said no a few times, it's saying a resounding yes. It is swinging like that. It's resounding.

[Kevin Cahoon]

And it really was swinging.

[Rachel Dratch]

She swings.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Listeners at home swings.

[Rachel Dratch]

Here we go. Safety. Here's the safety. And it's still swinging. Okay, that's good. What was your question?

[Kevin Cahoon]

My. My question was Will Shucked, the Broadway musical that I'm in, run into the year 2024.

[Irene Bremes]

Well, you got your answer right here.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Thank you.

[Irene Bremes]

Resounding. Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

The very least, into 2024.

[Irene Bremes]

And we will be checking three and a half.

[Rachel Dratch]

We will be checking beyond, and we will check back on that one. All right, well, Kevin, thank you.

[Irene Bremes]

This has been extraordinary. Thank you.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Love you both.

[Irene Bremes]

We love you.

[Kevin Cahoon]

I will.

[Irene Bremes]

We love you.

[Kevin Cahoon]

Come back anytime.

[Rachel Dratch]

You over a margarita. We love our Margaret Marg sessions. We do the Marg sessions. All right. Thank you so much. It's always a pleasure.

[Kevin Cahoon]

What an honor.

[Irene Bremes]

Thank you, Kevin.

[Rachel Dratch]

All right. Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. And you can find me on Instagram. At Ray Dratch, that's R A E Dratch. And you can find Irene at Irene, that's B R E M I S Bremes. And thanks for listening. Thanks for joining me on this journey into the world of Woo Woo. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch is a Q Code production executive produced by David Henning and Steve Wilson. Produced by Alexa Gabriel Ramirez, edited by Will Tendi.