Nadia Quinn: Human Design And How To Be Yourself

Summary

Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch

Episode: Nadia Quinn – Human Design And How To Be Yourself

Date: March 11, 2026
Host: Rachel Dratch
Co-host: Irene Bremis
Guest: Nadia Quinn – Actor, writer, Human Design practitioner

Episode Overview

In this vibrant, humor-laced episode, comedian Rachel Dratch and co-host Irene Bremis welcome Nadia Quinn to discuss Human Design—a mystical yet practical system that combines astrology, the I Ching, the Tree of Life, and the chakra system. They dive deep into what Human Design reveals about our personalities, energies, and life strategies, breaking down the topic for the uninitiated with insight, personal stories, and plenty of laughs. Nadia provides chart readings for Rachel and Irene, offers actionable advice, and shares how to begin a journey with Human Design to become unapologetically yourself.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Nadia Quinn and Her Woo Woo Lineage

• How Rachel & Nadia Met: Through mutual friend Jeff Hiller, who recommended Nadia as the go-to Human Design expert ([03:05]).
• Nadia’s Background: Actress (credits include “West Side Story” for Spielberg, “Succession”, Broadway), comedic writer, and now a Human Design TikTok star ([05:16]).
• Family Traditions: Nadia comes from a “Woo Woo family.” Her Jordanian grandmother read coffee cups and pendulums; her maternal grandmother was a Reiki master and hypnotherapist ([07:03]).

2. Coffee Cup Readings & Shusta Cards (Other Family Woo Practices)

• Coffee Reading: Turkish/Greek tradition of reading coffee sediment for fortunes ([10:39]).
• Shusta Cards: Oracle-like colored symbol cards (Nadia admits she doesn’t fully understand them) ([10:39]).
• Pendulums: Used for divination among her relatives ([11:43]).

“You drink the tiny Turkish coffee with cardamom, flip your cup over and my grandmother could tell your future from the coffee.” – Nadia ([11:04])

3. What Is Human Design?

• Origin: Channeled in 1987 by Robert Krakauer, later known as Ra Uru Hu, after a mystical experience in Ibiza ([16:13]).
• Components: Merges astrology, the I Ching (ancient Chinese oracle), Kabbalah’s Tree of Life, and the chakra system ([15:32], [16:13]).
• The Chart: Based on your birth time and date (includes key moment 88 days before birth), giving a map/aura of your energetic blueprint ([20:00]).
• Why Nadia Loves It: Human Design gave her a “user manual” for her energy, bringing instant relief and self-acceptance ([14:20]).

“It gives you a blueprint of your energy and says, ‘This is how you are designed to operate. This is where you pick up other people’s energy; this is where you’re consistent.’” – Nadia ([15:05])

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4. Decoding Human Design Types

• Five Energy Types:
  • Manifestors: Initiators who make things happen by speaking them into existence. (e.g., Amy Poehler)
  • Generators: Internal batteries, energized by doing what they love, infectious energy.
  • Manifesting Generators: Hybrid of above types, can both initiate and maintain energy. (Rachel & Irene’s type)
  • Projectors: Observers, guides, not meant to hustle—here to be recognized and invited (e.g., Jeff Hiller, Obama).
  • Reflectors: 1% of the population, mirrors of their environment (e.g., Sandra Bullock) ([23:41], [33:04])
• Core Principle:
  “When we are just ourselves, the way we’re designed, we fit together like puzzle pieces—like the Care Bear Stare.” – Nadia ([23:47])

Memorable Explanation:

“If you’re a vacuum and you try to make a smoothie…it’ll never work. Vacuums are for vacuuming.” – Nadia on trying to operate against your type ([26:57])

5. Individual Mini-Readings: Rachel & Irene

• Rachel: Highly open chart—“You are a shapeshifter, mirroring and amplifying others. Your identity is flexible, so release the pressure to figure out who you are permanently. Your powers: life force and your voice.” ([34:56])
• Irene: More defined centers—“Your Spidey sense is strong (built-in intuition), you know who you are, you've always been you. The difference: you have internal signals, while Rachel’s energy is more about reflecting and amplifying.”
• Both:
  • Manifesting Generator energy: “Unlimited battery when doing what you love. Burnout means you’re off track.” ([25:17])
  • Open-minded but susceptible to others’ thoughts and emotional energies ([38:48], [42:44]).
  • Should avoid overthinking; trust gut and intuition.
• Practical Advice: “When drained, walk away from what you’re doing. When energized, keep going.” ([30:16])

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6. Human Design Chart Anatomy

• The Shapes:
  • Colored-In = Consistent, internal energies.
  • Open = Areas where you absorb others' energy — can become overwhelmed if not cleared regularly.
• Key Centers:
  • Sacral (battery/energy), Throat (voice/communication), Identity, Spleen (intuition/fearlessness), Root (groundedness/adrenaline), Heart (willpower/self-worth), Mind Centers (inspiration/ideas absorption).
• Clearing Yourself:
  Shower, meditation, nature—critical for open types ([42:41]).

7. Relationships & Compatibility

• No Rigid Rules: But “gates” in the chart connect—when you meet someone whose chart complements yours, you feel it energetically ([48:17]).
• “Your genius is activated when your mind is clear—less thinking, more feeling.” ([49:23])

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8. Actionable Life Guidance & Custom Insights

• Don’t Compare Charts as ‘Better’ or ‘Worse’: Each chart is simply a unique energy configuration ([38:23]).
• Decision Strategy: “Neither of you are here to use your brain to make decisions. Every decision comes from your gut and intuition!” – Nadia ([40:02])
• Grounding Open Root: List tasks, do one thing at a time, get outside, interact with grounded friends ([52:54]).
• Archetypes:
  • Irene: 5/1 Heretic-Investigator—problem solver, needs all facts ([58:17]).
  • Rachel: 4/6 Opportunist-Sage—networks move her forward; three-stage life (experimentation, learning, wisdom) ([59:29]).

9. Advice for Getting Started with Human Design

• Use Nadia’s site howtobeyourselfhd.com to generate your chart; options for one-on-one readings, upcoming podcast and book ([44:27], [63:46]).
• Start noticing and honoring your energetic patterns as self-care.

“Your authenticity is your magical power. If you are living authentically, you’re unstoppable.” – Nadia ([63:17])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On discovering Human Design:

  “I get stopped on the street for my Human Design TikToks more than acting stuff in my whole life. There you have it.” – Nadia ([06:19])

• On open identity centers:

  “Rachel, release the pressure to ever figure out who you are. You are a shapeshifter…mirroring and amplifying others. That’s your gift.” – Nadia ([34:56])

• On intuition:

  “Start keeping a list of every time you had an intuitive ping. You’ll see: ‘I was right. I was right.’” – Nadia ([41:18])

• On practical living:

  “Your genius is activated when your minds are clear. If you’re clogged up, there’s no room for genius to drop in.” – Nadia ([49:23])

• On self-acceptance:

  “There’s nothing better or worse. No chart is ‘good’ or ‘bad.’ It’s just information you can use.” – Nadia ([38:23])

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Important Timestamps

• [03:05] – Nadia’s first connection to Rachel and origin story
• [07:03] – Family Woo Woo heritage
• [10:39] – Coffee cup readings explained
• [15:05] – What Human Design is
• [16:13] – The origin story of Human Design (Ra Uru Hu, Ibiza trance)
• [23:47-25:44] – The five types and generator overview
• [34:56] – Rachel’s personalized chart reading
• [38:23] – “No better or worse chart” philosophy
• [41:18] – Intuition journaling tip
• [44:27] – How to get your Human Design chart
• [58:17] – Archetypes explained (Irene’s and Rachel’s)
• [62:32] & [63:17] – Personalized recaps and advice

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Closing Takeaways

• Being yourself isn’t just good advice—it’s energetically correct. Human Design offers a no-shame, all-gain manual for understanding how you operate best.
• For listeners: Visit howtobeyourselfhd.com for a free chart, upcoming workshops, and resources.
• Quote to Remember:

  “If you are living authentically, you’re unstoppable. Your voice makes things happen. Listen to your gut and intuition…do what lights you up.” – Nadia Quinn ([63:17])

Segment Reference Table

| Timestamp | Segment | Notes | |-----------|---------|-------| | 03:05–07:03 | Introduction, Jeff Hiller, Nadia’s Woo family | Family, background | | 10:39–11:43 | Coffee & Shusta reading | Cultural Woo | | 14:20–15:32 | First learning about Human Design | Personal resonance | | 16:13–18:00 | Human Design origin story | Ra Uru Hu | | 20:00–21:44 | Chart basics | Aura, 88-day theory | | 23:47–25:44 | Types explained | Manifestor, Generator, etc. | | 34:56–38:23 | Chart readings for Rachel & Irene | Personal insights | | 41:18 | Intuitive journaling | Self-experiment | | 44:27 | How to get started | Nadia’s website | | 58:17–60:01 | Archetypes | 5/1 and 4/6 profiles | | 62:32–63:17 | Personalized recaps | Action advice |

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Rachel’s Summary:
“This was so informative and rejuvenating. Good, right Irene?” ([64:43])

Irene:
“Nadia, thank you so much. This was amazing. You're amazing. And it was very helpful.” ([64:49])

Find Nadia & More:

• howtobeyourselfhd.com – Generate your human design, get a reading, stay tuned for her podcast/book.

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

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Welcome to Woo Woo. This week's guest was really fascinating. It's Nadia Quinn talking about human design,

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something Irene and I knew pretty much nothing about.

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But anyway, it's kind of this fascinating

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system that we got really into. Hopefully you'll like getting into it too.

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I just wanted to say, if you're listening to this in real time, that Nadia has a workshop coming up. If you get into this episode. Her workshop is on Thursday, March 19 from 8 to 10 and it's happening in New York City, although you can livestream it too.

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So check out the website she mentions.

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For more information, go to the event section of her website that we bring

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up and I'll just say it now.

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It's how to be yourselfhd.com. check out the event section if you want to join for more human design. But right now, here we are for this episode of Woo Woo.

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Welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch,

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the podcast that explores the unexplained with humor and curiosity.

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Welcome to Woo Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch, here with my dear pal, Irene Bremis. Hi, Irene.

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Hi, sweetie.

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Irene, this is Woo Woo After Dark because usually we record during the day, but due to scheduling, we're recording at night. I wonder how this is gonna be. If it's gonna be different in vibes. We're gonna sound like Delilah.

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That Delilah with our soft voices.

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Yes, we're gonna be like.

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Welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel.

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Anyway, we're excited. We have a guest who actually is in a Woo Woo field, although she's Also an actor and writer, but she's gonna tell us all about a branch

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of Woo Woo that we've touched on before once, but now we're gonna learn all about it.

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Please welcome Nadia Quinn to the show. Hi, Nadia.

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Hi.

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Hello. Hello.

[A]

Hi, Nadia. We're really excited because we love having, you know, guests who happen to have stories. We haven't had a Woo Woo expert in a while, so this is good for us. We need a boost of Woo Woo. And you're just.

[F]

Oh, I'm truly honored.

[A]

Thank you.

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To be the burst of Woo.

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So just a little bit of background of how I connected with you was through our good friend Jeff Hiller, who did one of our fave episodes of Woo Woo.

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Yes.

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And if you haven't listened to the Jeff Hiller episode, go back and listen to it because it's so fun. And he's such a fun, funny guy. Delight.

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The best.

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But one thing that he touched upon was this thing called human design. And we said, where did you learn about it? And he said, from my friend Nadia. Well, there I am several months later at the opening party to a Broadway show, because that's where I scoop up all my guests rubbing shoulders with the hoi polloi. But anyway, I saw Nadia, and then we were like, you should come on the show and tell us about human design from the horse's mouth, because Jeff was telling us. Well, I guess he's learned a lot from you. But just quick question, though.

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How did you meet Jeff Hiller?

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Just through the acting world.

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Yeah. So Jeff and I actually played husband and wife in a Febreze commercial.

[E]

I love it. Yeah.

[F]

It was like Febreze. You plug it into the wall, like something like that. And at the time, he was doing. Yeah, honest to God, we had wedding rings. We had golden marital wedding rings.

[A]

Oh, and that's how you guys met?

[F]

That's how we met. And he was doing Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson at the Public at the time. And then I got cast in Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson when it transferred to Broadway. So then we ended up doing that show together on Broadway, and that's how we became close.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Okay. I saw it when I was at the Public, and then I didn't see the Broadway. Otherwise, I would say you did a wonderful job. Thank you. I saw it in its earlier rendition, so. Okay, that's awesome. So then you've done all sorts of other acting gigs. What are some of your most favorite acting gigs? Well, I did.

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I played the streetwalker in west side Story with Steven Spielberg and so I'm in the office of Kroc and I talk like this. And I was, like, in jail in the middle of the night with Steven Spielberg. And that was really. That was a career highlight. That was really fun. Wow. But, yeah, I've had, like, little parts on all your favorite TV shows. Succession Black. Ish. What's the one? This is us. Timmy Schmidt.

[A]

Did you start out, like, are you based New York. Really?

[F]

So I'm based in New York.

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Are you from, too?

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I grew up moving around sort of every year until middle school and high school and college were in Wisconsin. And I went to school for theater, moved to New York right after. Absolutely desperate to be on Broadway. And then I did ucb. I've done improv, a lot of comedy. I started writing funny songs when I was like, hi. With my friends. And then people were like, you should perform these. So I had a run of a comedy show at UCB for a long time, doing my funny songs. And what's funny is during the pandemic is when I really dug into human design. And Jeff and I were talking on Marco Polo, you know that app where you send video messages?

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Yes.

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And he said, you know, you should start making TikToks about human design. And so I did, and that really blew up. I. I have a bunch of followers on TikTok from human design, and I get recognized, stopped on the street for my human design tiktoks more than anyone's ever recognized me for an acting anything in my life. So there you have it.

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It's so funny. I love when, like, the thing that you weren't even, like, planning, then that becomes.

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I know the thing.

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That becomes the thing.

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Yeah, that becomes the thing. Amazing.

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So tell us. Well, first of all, we did not know what human design. I had never even heard of it till Jeff mentioned it. And then I did do my little. Like, I looked up what I was, but I really didn't delve into it because I was like, between astrology and, I don't know, what else is there?

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I mean, I was like, well, there's astrology, there's Year of the Horse. We don't have time.

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I don't have time to take on another system now. I have the time.

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Chinese astrology.

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I have time, and I'm open to learn.

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So.

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So tell us how you first stumbled into this witchcraft and then, like, how your journey. Your journey with it and all that.

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Okay, well, I come from a Woo family on both sides.

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You do?

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I do. Yeah.

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Nice.

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Ooh. So my dad. My dad Grew up in Jordan.

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Tell us about that.

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He's Middle Eastern and his mother was like the one. Everyone would come to my grandmother to read the coffee in the cup and they do the pendulum and they do. So I grew up very familiar with the Woowee practices. And then my mom's mom was a Catholic nun from 16 to 25. Dropped out of the convent because it was shady and then got into, through a series of life events, Eastern philosophy. Became a hypnotherapist and an astrologist and a Reiki master. And my mom is also a Reiki master. And my grandma used to read Shusta cards, which is the one thing I've never gotten into. I have this Shusta deck. So sometime if you gals want to get together and explore the Shusta.

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What Shusta? Please explain.

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Deck cards with colors and symbols and I honestly don't know. I don't know about it, but it's apparently like another oracle. So I've just, I've just always been very into this stuff.

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Pause before we go human design because we've never talked about reading coffee or whatever this Schuster thing is, so we'd love to hear a little bit. I love that you are like from a lineage on both sides of Woo Woo ancestors. So if you don't mind talking a little bit about reading coffee. And what's the origin of these shusta cards?

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You know, I wish I knew more about the shusta. All I know is that my grandmother used to be able to consult them for answers in the same way you would tarot. But I've tried to get into it before and it seems complicated. So I have the duck. I noticed it today when I went in my drawer. Yeah. Maybe this will help me dive in more. And the coffee thing, you know the Turkish coffee you drink in the tiny cups? It has cardamom.

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Yeah.

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After you finish drinking it, there's like a sediment in the bottom and you flip it over in your saucer. And then apparently, I mean, I don't read the coffee, but my grandmother could tell your future from the coffee and she was known for this.

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Yeah, well, I'm Greek and we did the same thing. My mother used to read it, my grandmother used to read it the saucer. And you can literally see pictures in there. They look at the pictures and they kind of tell you what they see for your future. Same thing.

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And Nadia, do you remember ever as a kid, like witnessing the readings or

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do you remember certain fortune being told

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around all the time? I don't remember anything specific, but I was around it a lot. And then also the pendulum was a huge part of the aunties would be like, no, habibti, let me tell you. Get the pendulum and let me tell you what is happening now. Okay, so. Oh yeah, it's never. Oh, it's a girl. For sure it's a girl, you know. Yeah, they can tell this.

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This is Irene after several marks. No, Irene. Irene introduced me to the world of the pendulum and we do a pendulum reading at the end of the show. I don't know if you're right.

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It's very exciting.

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Yes, yes. Okay, so. Okay, so you. Have you come by your Woo Woo honestly through your parents and grandparents. Okay, so then.

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But I've always just been into it, you know, and so a friend of mine heard about human design through Lacey Phillips. Do you know the TB Magnetic program? It's really great. It's like a series of. I'm learning so much deep imaginings and meditations that reprogram your brain. I've used it to undo all of my, you know, all the things that you're conditioned with from childhood and growing up. And it helps you reprogram your brain and detach from outcomes and undo money stories and all these things. So she was listening to the To Be Magnetic podcast and Lacy mentioned human design and she looked it up and literally she called me and said, I need your birth time. I just learned about this thing called human design. It's really complicated. You need to learn about it and teach us all about it. And I did. Like, not because she told me, but because I had to. So the foundation of human design is it's basically a map of your aura, like a chart of your energy self in the way, you know, your skeleton is your bones, your human design chart is your aura. And just to say for anyone listening, if you don't have your chart, I have a website called how to be yourselfhd.com and you can pull your free chart up there to follow along. And I have both Rachel and Irene's charts in front of me. So you have this chart that is a map of your aura. And it looks like a circuit board, right? You have all these different shapes and all these lines. When I first started learning about human design, it was really hard to find information about it. I got a reading from someone. I bought this book. There were a few blogs, but it wasn't as mainstream. It's not mainstream yet, but there are many more mainstream resources now where you can learn about it, but so do you. Are you guys looking at your charts?

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Oh, no, we can get them going.

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Yeah, let's do this. Wow. So exciting.

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I mean, that's how I learned about it.

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Okay.

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And I went down the rabbit hole obsessively.

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Oh, my gosh. I'd love that obsession.

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I've always went into all these systems, you know, like enneagrams and astrology and all these things, and none of them spoke to me the way this did. It made me feel an Immediate sense of relief, like, okay, so I can stop trying to be all these other things that the world told me is a better way to be. And it identified all the things I already knew about myself and said, no, no, no, this is how you are. This is how you're designed to operate. It gives you a user manual for yourself. Basically. That's what human design is. It gives you a blueprint of your energy system and says, this is how you are designed to operate. This is where you pick up other people's energy. This is your internal built in, consistent energy. This is how you need to be to have a life of greatest ease.

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I love it. It's like your human design. I love it. And this is the energy that you attract. And this is who you are. This is who you are. The essence of who you are. I love it. I love it.

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Now, can we ask, before we go to our charts, like, who came up with this? I mean. Cause I know there's the Enneagram and I have no idea who came up with that either, by the way. But like, is this a new thing that someone sort of the story channeled from on high almost, you know, like. Yeah.

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So it's a combination of a few systems. It's astrology, the I Ch, which I don't know if you've delved into that on this podcast. Oh, no, no, Whole other session. It's the oldest oracle known from ancient China 5,000 years ago. And it's a series of 64 hexagrams which are six line little stacks made of solid and broken yin yang lines that connect to the elements and mean things. So it's astrology, the I Ching, the tree of life from the Kabbalah and the chakra system and those four systems combined. So the story of this is actually, this is the only place I would lead with this story on the Woo Woo podcast. Because it's very woo.

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It's Woo Woo. Okay, we're open to it.

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In 1987, this guy named Robert Krakauer, who was an advertising executive in Canada, he's like, I gotta quit the mainstream life and search for purpose. So he quits his job, sells all his possessions, starts traveling the world, ends up in Ibiza. In 1987, I'm assuming there were a lot of drugs involved. He gets back to the cabin he's staying in, and apparently the house is like lit up. The dog is in a trance and he goes into a trance. The dog being in a trance is like kind of an important part of this response.

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I love That I love that the dog's in a trance. Okay.

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And he channels. This is. I mean, he said a voice spoke to him and he channeled the system.

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I love this kind of stuff.

[E]

Me, too.

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And I'm, like, fully on board like, that someone gets just information delivered from the higher consciousness. I'm like, sign me up for this story.

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Sign me up. And the dog is even entranced.

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The dog department got the message, too. Okay. So he gets this sort of holy wisdom, I'm gonna call it, but I'm just throwing the word holy on there. Okay, so then what does he do? He spreads the word, I guess.

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He brings it back and documents the system. To be honest, there's a bit of. Not controversy, but as with all things that people get involved in and start worshiping, within the, like, official human design community, there is a bit of. Is dogma the right word for that? Like, people. Yeah, they're, like, obsessive and religious about it. And some people say that it's a cult, and. But that is the people who are devout to Ra's original. So he changed his name from Robert Krakauer to Ra Uruhu.

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Of course.

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Of course he did.

[E]

Yes. Every cult leader should.

[A]

Sweetie, wait a minute. You know what's funny? Jeff told us that. Jeff told us that. But Jeff thought his real name was Alan, which I found hilarious because that's the guy that's changing his name to Ra Urhu, but it's actually. Was it Robert?

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Richard.

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But now he's Ra Uruhu.

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Now he's dead, unfortunately. Yeah.

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Oh, he's dead.

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He's dead. Well, was.

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Okay, yes. All right. So he became Ra. Okay.

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And then. Then what happened?

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I'm loving this story, by the way.

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I mean. Yeah, me too.

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This is some woo we sorely need, Irene.

[E]

Yeah, this is what we need.

[A]

We've been craving the woo. Okay, go ahead.

[E]

We just want to be taken out and drawn in. Sweetie, you're doing it.

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[A]

Okay, so continue.

[F]

Then he creates the system. There's this algorithm, and it's basically based on the time you were born in combination with 88 days before you were born, which is apparently when your soul drops into your body. So half of it is this subconscious Design energy from 88 days before you were born, and half of it is this personality energy that is formed the minute you're born.

[E]

Ooh, I have a question. I'm sorry, the 88. That's a very. Eights are very powerful numbers. Is there some significance? It means. What is it? It's infinity, right?

[F]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Honestly, this is just.

[E]

Okay.

[F]

What's interesting is I absorbed what I liked from many different human design sources, and a lot of it, A lot of the content you'll find if you go diving into the Internet is like a little. I'm so woo. And it's a little too woo for me. I'm like, this isn't even useful. There's this whole thing in human design about how in the year 2027, these rainbow people are coming. The raves, they're called, and we're moving into, like, a new species of people. I just like. I'm like, okay, if that happens, we'll see when it happens. I can't. I'm not like, you know, focusing on that part. Because the part about it that I think is so helpful is that it's actually like. Even though the foundation of it is so wooey, the practical application of it is like, oh, here's your skeleton. This is your bones. This is how your eyes work. Like, it's so. It feels almost scientific in a way. And that is how, you know, I have found my way into it. And that is also why I think a lot of people respond to the way I talk and teach about it, because it's. It's Just like, very practical.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And it's present. You're in the present instead of, like, looking into the future, like I said. Right, exactly.

[A]

Okay, so we'll. We'll stop asking about the history of it and let you go to what it is.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

Or how you first, whatever, you can take the lead.

[F]

So it's. It's a map of your aura, map of your energy system. And the foundation is on this idea that each of us, we have these nine chakras inside of our body, these little energy centers. Your chakras are either built in motors that are constant sources of internal power. That's if they're colored in. In the chart or if they're open in the chart. That's where you take in energy from outside of you and feel other people's energy. So I'm looking at Rachel's chart compared to Irene's chart, and the first thing we notice. And if you're, you know, following along, looking at your chart.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Rachel, you have seven of the nine centers open. So without even going into the specifics, this means that you walking through the world are susceptible to the energy of other people and your environment. Hugely empathic. You feel other people's stuff and your environment. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[A]

I'm completely responding to this. I'm clapping my hands with wonderment like a bird. Oh, my God.

[E]

Yes.

[F]

Yes.

[A]

That is so true. I'm gonna. Oh, wow.

[F]

And Irene.

[E]

That's so true.

[F]

A little bit. So that way you have more defined, so you have more constant internal sources. And then each of these shapes represents something different. So I'll go through them one at a time and give you guys, like, a little mini reading for yourselves as individuals and then, you know, pipe in when you. So the foundation of human design is that there's these five different energy types. And the main objective is if you are just yourself, the way you were designed to be only. And if everyone is themselves only, they all kind of work together like puzzle pieces. Like the Care Bear Stare, when all the Care Bears were just like themselves and then their bellies beamed out light, and then they solved crimes or whatever. I don't remember what they did. I don't think. I'm not sure if crime was a part of it.

[A]

But it's after. It's after our time. But I'm just going with it. Yes, I can picture it. I can picture it.

[F]

Power arrange it, you know, like, where if everyone does their own thing, we all benefit. And so the five types in human design are manifesters, generators, manifesting Generators, projectors, and reflectors. Manifestors are here to initiate things by speaking them out loud. They make things happen. Now, just because we know people in comment, Amy Poehler, Manifestor, Pure manifestor. Manifestor generators are here, and we are all three generators. You two are manifesting generators, which is a hybrid of a manifestor and a generator. The purpose of a generator is to. When we do what we love, our bodies become big magnetic force fields, and our energy is infectious, and people and opportunities and things are drawn to us effortlessly. All we have to do is what we love. When you're doing what you love, you have all this energy, and people are drawn to you.

[A]

I'm pointing to Irene because I would definitely say that about Irene. Like, I'm feeling an emotion because. Okay.

[E]

But I would draw.

[A]

You draw people to you with your positivity. You have this, like, vibration that is very positive, and you draw people in anyway. That resonates with me.

[D]

That's sweet.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

Anyway, I don't know if that's what you were saying.

[E]

It is.

[F]

It's exactly right. It's like your body sort of tells you when you're on the right track because you're energized and excited, and when you're doing what's wrong for you, you're burnt out and depleted. That's sort of the thing with human design in general. When our bodies feel bad, something's off. And this chart is giving you, like, really specific info about what is right, what is wrong for you.

[A]

I'm loving this body connection. Go ahead.

[F]

Yeah, exactly. So you are both manifesting generators, which is a hybrid of the manifestors who are here to make things happen by initiating and the generator, who is here to spread energy, energize people, do what we love. You're that hybrid type projectors. This is what Jeff Hiller is. They don't have unlimited energy in their bodies. So their gift is the way they see the world. They observe things, they notice things about other people. They sit back, they observe. And so often we are fighting against our type. Right. Like projectors who are not here to initiate, they're not here to provide energy. Grow up in a society that's like, you need to go out and tell people what you want. You need to hustle harder and work hard. And that does not work for projectors.

[E]

Oh, my gosh. Nadia. No, Nadi is your new name. Let me tell you something. I love that you're saying this right now. It's like, it takes a lot of pressure off your shoulders. Like, it's nice to know that, you know, when you try to put yourself in that role right, then you're not gonna achieve what you were meant to do because it's not your path.

[F]

Right. You're, like, operating yourself.

[D]

I like that.

[F]

Not the way you were designed. Like, if you're a vacuum and you're trying to, like, make a smoothie with the vacuum, it won't work. Yeah, vacuums are for vacuum.

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[A]

I have a question with the Manifesting versus Manifesting generator. Like a manifesting generator, you can still be producing and creating things. But it sounds like this is what I'm interpreting. I might be wrong. The generating part is more like day to day, like interactions with people. Is that sort of.

[E]

Yeah. What is that?

[A]

I don't want to put words in your mouth.

[F]

The generator is really just connected to the sacral center, which is an energy source in your body.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

Anyone who is a generator has a battery pack inside their body, and your goal is to use it. That battery pack is energized when you are doing what you love and it responds to things and you feel it because you go, oh, oh, yes. Like, your body is literally energized.

[E]

Can I just say this thing? When I'm doing what I don't love, I die a slow death.

[F]

That's correct.

[E]

It's like the battery is. It drains immediately.

[F]

And so if you take one thing away from this, if you are a generator, when your body is drained, it's telling you you're not supposed to be doing this thing.

[D]

Ooh.

[F]

And when you are energized, your body's saying, keep doing that. That's what's right for you. And we so often talk ourselves out of it because of our conditioning and because, you know, we are brought up in these societies that tell us to be a certain way. And to answer, Rachel, what you said before, the manifester part is really completely about initiating. I am not a manifesting generator, so I must never initiate.

[E]

What are you? I'm curious.

[F]

I'm a generator. A pure generator.

[E]

Pure generator.

[F]

And you are both hybrid manifestor generators. So you have an unlimited battery pack in your bodies when you're doing what you love. And you can initiate things. And when you initiate things, they happen. When I initiate things, it doesn't go well. I have to just wait and respond to the things that excite me and go, I want to do that. That sounds fun. As opposed to like, okay, so I really need to make XYZ happen. So I need to start sending out emails and trying to get people's attention. That doesn't work for me. Whereas either of you could be like, oh, yeah, let me reach out to this person and they'll respond favorably to that. And Amy, because she's the manifesto, we all know here, she does not have the unlimited battery pack in her body. She's a pure manifesto. So she is not here to provide Energy. She is here to make things happen by saying them out loud exclusively. She gets energized by other people, and then she needs to go be alone and clear out all their energy and rest. Whereas generators. We could work for 48 hours straight and not get tired. If we're doing what we love, we'll forget we're tired because we have an internal, unlimited source of energy.

[E]

Right. If we're doing what we love. Sorry.

[F]

That's the key. When you're doing what. And you're gonna know because your body's energized. And then the projector, they also don't have the battery pack in their body because they are meant to sit back and wait to be seen and invited. And what's so funny is, right when I learned about human design, I told Jeff that right away. I said, you're a projector and you're not supposed to initiate. You don't have a battery pack in your body. You need to wait to be seen and invited. And he was like, nadia, last week, I swear to you, I said to my friend, I don't want to be hustling so hard. I just want people to see me and invite me, because that's who he is. That's what he's designed to do.

[A]

And he said that on the show. And then soon after, he got his somebody somewhere show. Right?

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Wow.

[E]

I think so.

[A]

Maybe he was seeing time in for that. Wow. Okay. And then what are the. Oh, do you want to do our thing or do you want to tell us the other types?

[F]

The only other type is reflector, and their entire chart is open. They're 1% of the population. Jeff's dad is a reflector, interestingly enough.

[A]

And you say said Obama was.

[F]

No, Obama is a projector like Jeff.

[A]

Sorry. Okay, sorry. So who else is a reflector?

[F]

Sandra Bullock is the only celebrity reflector that I know.

[E]

Wow.

[F]

And their charts are so open. And so they're just reflecting everyone's energy. They're like a barometer for everyone around them. If they are cranky, it's because everyone around them sucks and is being a jerk.

[A]

How is that different from projector? Well, in my chart. Well, no, in my chart, you said everything's open.

[F]

When you're looking at anyone's chart, you want to take note of two things. The colored in centers are your constant sources of energy. So, Rachel, for your chart, you have two colored in centers. The sacral, which is that battery pack we've been talking about, and your throat, which is your voice. So the Two parts of you that are you, that are unchanging are your life force energy and your voice. These are your internal, consistent powers. And you have a pathway of energy that travels directly from your sacral to your voice. That's that channel, that red line that connects them, which means when you are alone, everything inside you is connected to everything else. You have unlimited energy when you're doing what you love. And the way you speak and communicate is an internal source of your power. Yes, Irene, your sacral is colored in. You have unlimited energy when you're doing what you love. Your voice is also lit up, because that's what makes you a manifestor. Your voice, the way you speak, that yellow diamond in the middle is your identity. You have a. And now this is a difference between you and Rachel. So, Irene, and I'm this way, too. Our sense of self is built in. Who we are is who we are. We've been who we are since we were kids, Rachel.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

I believe that your identity is open. You are whoever you are right now. Whoever you're around you are mirroring and amplifying their energy. But we're so often told, well, you need to figure out who you are. And it's really important that you know who you are. But, Rachel, I would tell you based on your design, you really just need to release any pressure to ever figure out who you are. Because who you are is your gift, is that you are a shapeshifter. Whoever you're with, you make them feel very seen because you are mirroring their identity. Your greatest power is activated when you are not trying to figure out who you are, and you are just being open and whoever you are in this moment. Whereas, Irene, you are who you are. You know who you are. You've been who you are. You know where you're going.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, honestly, Watch your stand up, sweetie. It's all right there. Yeah.

[E]

But it's what makes the relationship so magical, because I really love Rachel and the fact that you're saying she's so present, she's so, like, in every moment, she can shape shift and be there and be present. So it really is a gift. You know, I will say this. I'm very happy that I'm not that 1%. What is it called?

[F]

The reflector.

[E]

The reflector. Cause I don't want to be in a shitty mood because the person next to me is in a crazy, crappy mood. And for Rachel, that's not what she was emphasizing with you. What you are, you're open, so you feel Pain. And you have empathy, right? Is that what you were implying about Rachel? Cause that's how I feel about Rachel. She really feels. She has sympathy and empathy. She's an empath in many ways.

[F]

Yes. You feel other people's energy more profoundly than Irene because Irene has four built in centers and you only have two. But your openness is a power when you're open. And so what your chart helps you identify is when you, Rachel, are feeling off. When you're feeling. Oh God, I just, I've been around people too much. I'm feeling clogged up. You need to be alone, take a bath, do a meditation and reset to being clear and open. Cause that is when you are operating at your highest. Wow.

[E]

Okay, now I have a question about the actual shapes. I see a little.

[A]

What about the diamonds? Another filled in one too. Irene?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Fourth filled in triangle to the left.

[F]

So the triangle on the left next to the sacral is the spleen, which is intuition, survival instinct, bullshit detector. You, Irene, have built in Spidey sense. The hairs on the back of your neck give you a little zip of. I don't trust that person. Something's off about this situation. I don't like that guy. I don't want to leave yet. Rachel and I, our spleens are open. So we are designed to be fearless. But we absorb other people's stress and fear and anxiety in that open place. So your job with your open centers is to keep them open. Because when they're open, that is when our intuition is activated. So Rachel, you'll feel other people's energy when you are operating in an open, fearless place. But if you're carrying around a lot of fear that you've picked up from other people, you're not going to be able to perceive that intuition because your spleen is full of gunk. Whereas Irene, you have a built in antenna that's like, I don't trust that person. This person's the real deal.

[E]

And I thought it was paranoia from the Greek lineage. Sweetie, thank you for clarifying.

[A]

You know what I like about this? And I feel like I need like the full course. Cause this is just the intro. I like that it seems like it's not like anyone's chart is like there's something, you know, it's better to be this than that. It's just like here are your powers, here are your, I don't know, I'm not hearing you say weaknesses. So here's how you're built and here's how to best operate under what Your build is.

[F]

That's right. There's nothing better or worse. There's no chart that's like, oh, that's a good chart. Oh, this is a bad chart. It's just information that you can use. And so the other open centers that you both have, the two triangles at the top, the crown and the ashna, this is your mind. And both of you are this way. Let me see if you connect. Okay, so both of you are this way, which basically means you are both open minded, but you are always absorbing everyone's way of thinking, everyone's ideas, everyone's thoughts. And what can happen if you're not clearing your mind out several times throughout the day is you've picked up a lot of mental energy and you start spinning and spiraling in your brain and

[E]

it doesn't feel good.

[F]

And you're stuck up there. You're trying to figure things out with your head. And human design is like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Your minds are open. You're not here to think about things. When you clear your head, you get ideas that drop down from the universe into your brain. And when you're listening to your intuition, never talk yourself out of an intuitive ping. You get never that.

[A]

That applies to your health journey. Irene, that's right. You have to trust him.

[F]

And both of you stop thinking about things. Stop convincing yourself you should do xyz because your brain's. Because neither of you are here to use your brain to make decisions. Every decision for you, Rachel, comes from your gut. Everyone. And Irene, same for you. But a combination of your gut and your intuition, and your gut is speaking to you. By giving you energy, you're energized and excited. Or it goes, ugh, I don't want to do that. And that's your body saying, don't do it.

[E]

Oh my gosh, this is mind blowing emoji.

[A]

I wish we had this one on video because I can't tell you how many times in this session that I've like my eyes have gone wide and I've been going like, yes, yes. There's so much that resonates.

[D]

I know.

[E]

I wish people could so much that

[F]

resonance, like a little birdie.

[A]

I know I'm flipping out over here.

[E]

I think we're flipping out because we know, like, Rachel is very intuitive. I mean, I mean she, her gut, her instincts, you know, I'm always like, you're so intuitive. You're so intuitive. You know, you're so psychic. And for me, I mean, she. You're right, Rachel. I was, you Know, it was the whole health journey, just listening to my gut. I don't always do it, but when, when I'm gonna start doing it more. But when I do it, it doesn't ever lead me astray. It leads me on the path that I'm supposed to be on.

[F]

And if you wanna practice getting good at listening to your intuition, I recommend you start. Start a little list in your phone or on paper where anytime you get an intuitive ping, no matter how big or small, like, oh, I think this person's gonna cancel on me today. I just got a feeling. Write it down. Keep a list of every little intuition you get. Now, Irene, this is for you, because your intuition is coming from inside your body. Then go back and look at it and you'll see. Oh, my gosh, I was right. I was right all those times. Now, Rachel, your intuitiveness is from your openness. So you are psychic. You are intuitive when you're not carrying around garbage you've picked up from everyone in the world. This is why it's so important for you to clear out everyone's energy every day. My husband's chart is as open as yours. He has seven centers open. He especially the identity one felt so profound to him. Like he's having an identity crisis all the time. Gotta figure out who I am. I have to. I don't know who I am. He started taking a bath and doing a 30 minute meditation every day. And he is a different human being because he's open. He clears out everyone's energy at the end of the day and he's ready to go. He's fine. So you have to get the way you clear your open centers is like, you know, it's, oh, every time I lay down on my yoga mat and stretch, that helps me reset. For me, it's taking a shower. For some people, they need to go for a run or go for a walk. Yeah, showering is perfect.

[E]

I feel like it's Rachel shower. Yeah.

[F]

I do long cry showers where I just cry it all out in the shower. Yeah, but you guys, I'm emotional. So you're both non emotional. You absorb other people's emotions in your body and it feels bad. You're really empathic. And then you're like, I was around all these sad people and now I feel sad. I make big emotions in my body and as soon as I feel them, they're over.

[E]

Oh, that's beautiful.

[F]

I will be so upset. I'll be so annoyed about something and I'll vent about it for five minutes and Then the person I vented to will come back to me and be like, oh my gosh, how's that going? I've been thinking about you and I'm like, like, what are you talking about? No, like, you were so upset. I'm like, when? About what? I've been so upset so many times in quick little bursts and then it's over.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[F]

But you guys feel other people's feelings. So I've been accused of being a cold hearted snake because, like, I'm the oldest of 5k. I'm the oldest of 5 kids and my sisters would be like, you just, you just, you know, we feel all these feelings and they don't affect you. And I'm like, yeah, your feelings don't affect me. They do not affect me.

[E]

Wow.

[F]

Because I got my own beaming out. Yeah, but you both really feel that.

[A]

But on the flip side too, then when we're around like good, positive buddies and vibes, like, that really charges us. I would say, like that the opposite of that is like, I can. That's my drug of choice is like hanging with fun friends.

[E]

And that's what we have to do. We have to continue with that drug of choice, sweetie.

[F]

That's right.

[E]

We have to continue hanging out with positive, positive people.

[A]

Positive peeps.

[E]

That's right. Positive peeps and pals. Yeah.

[A]

So if someone wanted to learn more about this and take a deeper dive, like what do they do? How do they connect more with human design?

[F]

So I would say make your chart and then I do one on one readings. I'm also have my own podcast that we'll be launching this year and we're gonna break down human design little by little with cool guests, great conversations, and my book.

[A]

Okay, wait, tell us about your book and your.

[F]

Okay, so the book and the website and the podcast, everything is called how to be yourself. Because that is what I think we all need to be doing. My website is how to Be Yourself HD for Human Design.

[A]

And that's up now, right?

[F]

It's up now. You can make your chart there for free. And when you make your chart, you put in your email address. And so then I'll be able to keep you updated when my podcast launches and when my book comes out and all that stuff.

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[F]

There's two more little pieces of this chart that I'd love to tell you guys. Do we have time for that?

[A]

Oh yes, yes.

[E]

Are you kidding me? Don't leave out.

[A]

I just wanted to make sure you got to to talk about your launch and all that. But no, tell us about the rest of our charts then.

[D]

Sorry.

[F]

So and honestly, I could talk about this for 100 hours. When we talk about the sacral being lit up, nothing lights me up like teaching people about this because I've had people come up to me months. I've read everyone I've ever encountered since I learned about human design. I have their chart in my phone. I have everybody's chart. I know everyone in my family. I know all my friends. I was like, and this weird situation in rural Missouri. Everyone was on drugs and there was like a stripper there with a truck driver. Read the stripper's Human Design. She cried. Life changing moment for both of us. Like I just everyone. If I'm at a party and people are making small talk, I can't handle it. I'm like, do you know your birth time? Can I just tell you about yourself? So I really, truly love this so much.

[E]

I love that.

[F]

So there's a lot I could tell you, but I'm gonna. I'm trying to give you, like, the first pass, and then we'll go out for drinks and dive in more deeply, but.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Yeah. Oh, I have one question before we go into the rest of our charts. Now, is there, like, certain human designs that connect to other human designs a little bit better, you know, than.

[A]

Oh, like a so and so shouldn't be with a so and so?

[F]

Not quite the same way as astrology, where they're like, ooh, Virgos and Pisces have a great connection or whatever. But these little line that you see coming out of the centers, the colored in lines are called gates. So if you have one end of a gate and someone else has the other end of a gate, you connect and energize each other in those two adjacent centers. But we already know this because, you guys, it's when you meet someone and you're like, oh, my gosh, it's so easy to be around you. It feels so good around you. Your charts are connecting. You feel it. And when you meet someone and you're like, something about their energy, I just. Just, they don't like them. That's your chart. You just. You don't feel good. It's. You can always return to. Does it feel good? Does it feel easy? Then it's right. Oh, but we're kind of conditioned to struggle, you know, you have to suffer. It has to be hard. You have to push through. You need to weigh the pros and cons and think about it. But for most people, less thinking is better. Your genius is activated when your minds are clear. And if you're clogged up with trash up here, there's no room for your genius to drop in.

[E]

Oh, my God, I love it. You know what? It's just systemic conditioning. It's so crazy. Like, we're taught, like, you have to be nice. You have to get along with this person on so many levels, multiple levels, different things that we're told that we have to do. And all you have to do is just be who you were meant to be.

[F]

It's the easiest thing. It should feel like a sense of relief, like, oh, thank God. This is who I've wanted to be this whole time.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[E]

Right?

[F]

And, you know, we're all conditioned by our families, by our cultures, our schools, our friends. That one mean girl in sixth grade who asked why you raise your hand to read from the book so often, and then you're just like, do I talk too much? But no, we're here to. You're here to read aloud sometimes. That was me.

[D]

Right?

[E]

Like.

[F]

Like.

[E]

Like relationships aren't supposed to be complicated. They're actually supposed to be very easy.

[A]

Yes, good point, Irene.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Okay, so there's two more little shapes here. That little triangle in between the diamond in the center and the emotions over on the right, that's the heart center. People who have this colored in. Amy Poehler has this colored in. They have a built in willpower motor and a built in sense of self worth where they're like, why would you ever question yourself? Like, they aren't questioning their worth internally. Those of us who have it open are like, but I really want validation. And I just want people to tell me they love me. And that would feel so good. And then Amy's like, why do you want that? She would never want it. She doesn't care. She has her own validation in her body.

[A]

Okay. It's so funny you say this because I reference Amy a lot because she's a beloved of mine. But it's funny a lot of times when I imagine, like, being assertive or, like, just being like, well, don't worry about what this person. I literally think in my head, like, what would polar do? And I mean, I tell her this because she is like that. She just, like, she's nice about it, but she's just like, no nonsense, you know? And like, I try to take a page from that sometimes. Cause like you said, that's not my go to.

[F]

So really, what the three of us would want to remember is we don't have to prove ourselves to anyone ever. And our open heartedness, our vulnerability, our, oh, gosh, I don't even know my worth. I'm so sorry. I feel stupid. Is more attractive than trying to prove yourself, which repels people. Whereas Amy would never try to prove herself. She's like, what? Why would I do that? I don't need to, because it's built in. Andrew Durand also has a defined heart. He's never tried. He doesn't need to prove himself. He knows his worth and his body.

[E]

Where is it on the chart? The defined heart, which shapes that little

[F]

triangle in between on Irene, your chart. The yellow diamond and the open solar plexus on the right. So it's that tiny little triangle in between that has the numbers 26, 51, 21.

[D]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[F]

And then the last center is the root, which is down at the bottom.

[A]

Okay. That square.

[F]

Yes. So all of us have an open root. Andrew Durand, who's in Rocky Horror with you, Rachel. He's one of my dear friends. We've also done shows together. He has this defined. People with a defined root have a built in groundedness, built in adrenaline. They don't panic about things. They're like. Like, I'm not worried. It's all gonna get done. It's fine. We three are like, oh, God, there's so much to do. How am I gonna get it all done? We don't have built in adrenaline, so we sort of like spiral and panic, and we want everything to just be done. So it's over with.

[A]

Oh, my God, Yes.

[E]

Oh, my gosh. I think we've had that conversation multiple times.

[A]

That's all I say all the time. Okay. Yeah.

[F]

So the advice is, you need to ground yourself on the earth. Earth. Or on a tree. Or make a list of what needs to get done. Do one thing at a time, because otherwise that fake pressure and panic is gonna override your gut and your voice.

[A]

It's my worst.

[F]

And me too.

[E]

And then you become. And then it places us in that state of paralysis that we were talking about, and we can't get anything done. Yeah.

[F]

Wow. So you need to ground yourself and you know, once again, what works for you. Is it doing five minutes of yoga? Is it going outside and touching your favorite tree? Is it having a conversation with a friend who has a defined root? So as you start to look at other people's charts and Rachel, I know you have a son. You'd want to look at his chart and see.

[D]

Oh, I do.

[F]

How he's designed. Because if you're around someone with a defined root and you're working on a project with them, they're like, it's all going to get done. I'm not worried. They're designed to procrastinate. They leave everything to the last minute. That rush and pressure gets. Everything gets done. It feels good. Whereas we are like, I could never. Oh, my God, it feels bad. I'm panicking. I just want to get it done with. So you have to remember.

[E]

But I do procrastinate.

[A]

Oh. I have a question. Does your behavior ever change? And the reason I thought of that is because I used to be like the person studying for a final, like, the last minute. And it actually all worked out, but now that system isn't really serving me as well. But I don't know. But. Or is it sort of a fixed state from your brain?

[F]

Your chart is fixed, but as the planets move through the transits, we are energized in different centers every Day in a different way. So I can look up right now and tell you what the transits are today. And maybe we all have a defined root at this moment. And also, Rachel, if your roommate in college while you were procrastinating had a defined root, you would be like, yep, I'm picking up on their root energy. And I'm. You get it from them like a puzzle piece. So right now, today, March 5th, when we're recording this, we all have that defined heart, that sense of self worth today. We have that. We know our worth today. And we're not worried about trying to prove ourselves today. And we all have emotions today. So if you two are feeling more emotions moving through you today, that's because that's coming to you from the planets. Very normal. I could see how long that's gonna last, but. Yeah. Wow.

[E]

That was a good question, sweetie. I like that question because it means that maybe we should. Should plan life events according to the transit.

[F]

Yeah, you can.

[A]

Do you do that?

[F]

I don't.

[A]

Nadia, do you like.

[F]

I don't.

[A]

You know, that might make someone a little crazy.

[F]

Well, there's. There are all these different elements. Let me look at your arrows here. Okay, so. So, Irene, you are mostly strategic. Did you both know you're exact to the minute birth times?

[A]

Yeah, I think So.

[E]

I. Yeah.

[F]

2:00am And I'm.

[A]

7:00am yeah.

[F]

And Rachel, you are half strategic, half receptive. So, Irene, you need a structure. You need a schedule. You need things to be very, very structured. That is what feels correct for you.

[E]

I mean, I can't believe how right you are. You know, my motto is not preparing to win is preparing to lose. Like I literally am. Like, I need structure. I need to be prepared. Yes, absolutely, sweetie.

[A]

I've never heard you say that, but.

[D]

Go on, sweetie.

[A]

Okay. Anyway, sorry, continue.

[F]

But the one place, Irene, the one place you're receptive.

[E]

Well, hold on, sweetie. I'm sure I told you that about

[A]

his basketball, but you do act like that. I'm just busting. But you do act like that. So I'm not surprised you're. You need to try and go for a quick cheap joke.

[F]

Okay? Okay.

[A]

And then I am a. I know, I'm a chronic last minute.

[F]

Right? You are strategic in two ways, Rachel. Your environment needs to be a certain way that feels good for you. And the way you interact with the world day to day, you want it to be specific. Now, Irene, the way you interact with the world day to day can be A little more loose. So you need to structure the way you eat. Now I can tell you both your digestion profile. This is kind of fun, too. So what? So, Rachel, your digestion is nervous. Nervous touch. And Irene, your digestion is high sound. Okay, so Irene, you need music on TV on while you're eating. You like sound. You need music, you need high sound. You do well eating, digesting food and information in a high sound environment.

[E]

That's right. That's right. Because I was also raised with a lot of deaf people, sweetie. And the TV was very loud, as you well know. I mean, I pretty much like to do that exact thing. Have food and in front of the TV at full volume.

[F]

You need high sound. Rachel, your digestion is called Nervous Touch.

[A]

That's my new nickname.

[F]

Yes. So you need to be kind of buzzing around, doing things, eating while you're on the move, eating while you're doing two other things. You can be. It's like when your body is in a very calm state, you don't want to be eating or learning at that time. You want to be eating and taking things in while you're kind of up and buzzing.

[E]

That is true about you. Yes, it is true. You are doing things on the go a lot. And I'm always mesmerized by it because that's so not like how I am, you know?

[D]

Oh, okay.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

It's never noticed you both have an

[F]

archetype I can tell you about. Irene, you are a 5:1, which is the heretic and the investigator or the challenge solver. So your personality energy is that of a hero. People see you and they're like. They project onto you. Oh, Irene, you have all the answers. You are so amazing. You can help us solve this problem. And your subconscious energy is the investigator. So you do not like to live in the gray area. You want all the facts, all the details, black and white. There's a party Friday. What time does it start? Who's going to be there? Is there food there? What do I need to wear? What are you wearing? What time do you want to leave? You do not like not knowing all the details. So because of these two things, people come to you to solve problems. And you're really good at solving problems for people.

[A]

That's true.

[E]

I will say that with medical stuff, I am insane and I need to know all the details. And I had to research when I went through my health thing, my crisis, so.

[A]

But you're also. Also just in. Like, you help me solve, like the most piddly problem I Can call you with. And you, like, you, like, treat it like it's freaking, I don't know, world peace.

[E]

And I thoroughly enjoy it. I thoroughly enjoy it. Yes.

[F]

Because that's who you are. Your archetype is the challenge solver. There's 12 of these archetypes, Rachel. You are the four, six, which is the opportunist and the sage called the regal authority figure. So your personality energy is a people person. Everything in your life moves forward through your network, through your people, through your friends. People are in. They're your people.

[A]

That's true. That's so true.

[F]

Your subconscious is the wise sage.

[A]

A real asshole. Okay, sorry. Yes, the wise sage. Oh, I like that. Of course.

[F]

But you are in your sage time. But any Sage lives a three phase life. So the first 30 years of your life were experimentation and chaos, trial and error. Am I this? Am I this? Should I do this? Should I be this? I don't know, trying on things, climbing up the stairs, falling down the stairs. At 30 at your Saturn returns, you got off the stairs, you sit down on the roof, and you're kind of processing all the chaos of the first 30 years and learning from it. And then you've integrated all of that chaos and experimentation with all your processing and you're like, okay, I'm wise now. What do you guys need?

[E]

Well, that is so true. She is my therapist. Well, thank you, dear amateur therapist.

[A]

Mutual love, Irene. Wow. All right. That's amazing. And I know there's like.

[F]

There's so much more. We could keep talking, but. Yeah, that's a good. It's a good first pass. I'll tell you one last thing, Irene, your ideal environment is my mountains. And Rachel, your ideal environment is shores.

[D]

Love.

[E]

Yes, but I have a question about shores. Rachel, that is so huge. She loves the beach. Absolutely adores it. I love mountains. But I do have, what is it called? Altitude issues sometimes.

[F]

Oh, interesting.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe it's looking at mountains.

[F]

You know it?

[A]

I don't know.

[F]

No, it's.

[E]

I have vertigo. I get vertigo.

[F]

So. Interesting.

[E]

Yeah. Sometimes I couldn't like an Aspen. Like the.

[F]

I. I say it's like, about having career crushing, being up high and having perspective so you can kind of see everything below you.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

So I don't know how high up you need to go. You don't need to climb Kilimanjaro, girl.

[E]

But yeah.

[A]

Oh, my God. Okay, Nadia, I feel like we could do like three other sessions with you.

[F]

No, we could.

[A]

Because you know so much about this and you've. It's really given me a lot to think about. I mean, I feel like this is gonna actually shift my day to day.

[F]

Can I do a little, like, recap for each of you real quick about how to be Rachel? Make sure you're not carrying around other people's emotions. You're not trying to prove yourself. You're not trying to figure out who you are. You are designed to be fearless. If you've picked up fear, it's not yours. Release all pressure to try to get things done. And stay out of your head when you are clear in those places, your unlimited energy to do what you love, your gut, what lights you up, what feels good. And your voice, the way you speak and communicate. Lead the way. You're on fire. Everything works out for you. Speak things into existence. Do what feels good in your body.

[E]

Wow. That's.

[A]

I'm have that on a loop playing as I go. Touch a tree.

[E]

Yes, exactly.

[F]

Irene.

[A]

Irene.

[F]

You take on other people's emotions. You want to make sure you're letting those all go. You're not trying to prove yourself. You're not succumbing to the pressure to get the. Just clear that out. Ground yourself and stay out of your head completely. Above all else, listen to your gut. If it lights you up, if you respond to something in a way that's like, I want to do that, you do it. Don't talk yourself out of, oh, I should do this, I should do that. No, if your body wants to do it, that's what you're supposed to be doing. Listen to your intuition, your spidey sense, that little. I got a weird feeling. Just always listen to it. Your authenticity is your magical power. If you are living authentically, you're unstoppable. And your voice. Say what you want. Speak it into existence. The way you speak and communicate is powerful. It makes things happen. Wow.

[E]

That is so beautiful. Nadia, this has been amazing. I'm hugging you.

[A]

Before we go, I just want to recap on your newest ventures that people can check in with. So if they want to follow up on this, if they want to get their own chart or even have a reading done with you or take a deeper dive. So tell us what's coming up for you.

[F]

Okay, so you can find me at howtobeyourselfhd.com you can make your chart there for free, and you can email me to set up a reading. And when you do that, I'll have your email address on my list, and then I'll let you know when my book comes out. And when the podcast launches.

[A]

Ooh. Okay, so, Ian, you'll have a podcast where you talk about human fun. And we don't know when it launches yet.

[F]

No, I'm not.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

I still have to record. I've only recorded the first episode, so. But it'll be this year sometime. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. And your podcast is launching this year. So all you woo woo people that want more woo woo in your life, this can be one more thing you can add to your list of woo woo. And definitely check out Nadia's website, for starters. And go do your charts.

[F]

You can get a lot of basic info on there. There's little write ups about all the main things. I give you every part of the chart here on my site. And now it's just all in one place on my site. How to Be Yourself.

[D]

Hd.

[A]

Awesome.

[F]

Wow.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

This was so informative and rejuvenating. Good, right, Aries?

[E]

Oh, my gosh. I mean, Nadia, thank you so much. This was amazing. You're amazing. And it was very helpful.

[A]

But before we go, we have to do the penji reading.

[F]

Okay.

[A]

So, you know, you think of a yes or no question and you're gonna reveal it after we swing our penge.

[F]

A yes or no question. Okay, I'm gonna ask the thing that is scary because I have a lot of faith. I'm doing it.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Okay. All right.

[E]

So you're not going out of your human design element, are you, sweetie?

[F]

No. This is the thing that feels right.

[D]

Okay, here we go.

[A]

Okay. Okay. I have my answer. Do you have your answer?

[E]

I'm so sick of contradicting answers. I got a yes.

[A]

Okay. I got a yes, too.

[F]

Oh, thank God. And I knew it was yes. So I'm. For the first time in a really long time, I don't have the money for my Green Actors Guild insurance. You know, you.

[D]

I saw you.

[A]

Yes.

[F]

Yeah. And so. But I know I'm gonna get it. I know I'm gonna get work before the end of the month, and I know I'm gonna get it, and I just know it.

[D]

Okay?

[F]

And that's what I asked. I said, am I gonna get my health insurance?

[A]

Okay? And by the way, this is going up very soon. This is going up next week.

[F]

Oh, my God.

[A]

So anyone hearing this? And by the way, this is so freaking sad that an actor has to get a job by a certain time to get their damn health insurance. And I'm putting that out there as a gripe, but I'm still remaining calm. So anyway, we're putting this out there. That in the next. Before the end of the month, Nadia needs a job with Screen Actors Guild. And the pendulum says that you shall receive it, you shall get it.

[E]

Resounding. Yes. Pendulum is somehow. Yes.

[A]

We'll have to check back with you.

[F]

I knew it in my soul. Which is why I wasn't scared to ask, because I. Well, guys, because the other wooey thing is I bought a spell from a guy. Ooh, there's this guy in England that has spells. I'll send you a site. I'll tell you his website. It's Sebastian Thorne rituals and he has these spells. And I heard about it on TikTok. Someone was like, oh, it's Sebastian. Sebastian Thorne. And I bought a. For visibility. And I don't know if it's like jinxing it to talk about it, but I don't think it is. So I'm. I'm doing it.

[A]

No, I don't think so, because we're here too.

[F]

He cast a spell for me and he's like, it's done. You're going to get your insurance and people are going to see you and you're going to work more than ever.

[A]

And the Pengie said, it is so damn. All right, well, Nadia, thank you so much.

[E]

This was so awesome.

[A]

And I mean it when I say, like, we haven't had, like, a real sort of like, practitioner of woo in a really long time. So this really, like, checks a great box for us too. So thank you. Appreciate your time. All right, Nadia, thank you so much for joining us.

[F]

Oh, what a pleasure. Thank you for having me. Bye. Thank you.

[A]

And you can find me on Instagram at Ray Dratch. That's R A E Dratch. And you can find Irene at IreneBremis. That's B R E M I S Bremes. And thanks for listening thing. Thanks for joining me on this journey into the world of woo Woo. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

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