Taran Killam: I'm Not Really Woo Woo... Oh Wait!

Summary

Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch

Episode: “Taran Killam: I'm Not Really Woo Woo... Oh Wait!”

Host: Rachel Dratch | Co-host: Irene Bremis
Guest: Taran Killam
Release Date: July 8, 2026
Duration: ~1 hour

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This lively episode of “Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch” features comedian, actor, and Broadway star Taran Killam. Together with co-host Irene Bremis, the group explores the intersection of creativity, comedy, Broadway, and the unexplainable—“woo woo”—phenomena like intuition, manifestation, and the afterlife. Though Taran describes himself as not especially Woo Woo, the conversation uncovers a host of mystical moments, including stories of manifestation, the creative process, and even a dash of astrology.

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KEY DISCUSSION POINTS & INSIGHTS

Celebrity Encounters & Broadway Joy

[03:08–10:33]

• The conversation opens with stories of recent celebrity run-ins after “Cats” on Broadway. Taran describes walking into a restaurant to find a comedy “Mount Rushmore” (Ana Gasteyer, Paula Pell, Tina Fey, Maya Rudolph, Emily Spivey) and then Rachel Dratch arrives post-show.
• The group reminisces about “dream hangs” and how Broadway’s current atmosphere is especially full of energy and joy, with unconventional hits like “Titanique” and the upcoming “Eurovision” musical.
• Taran speaks on his enduring love for Broadway and muses, "Broadway is the best. There's not... it's, you know, it's the best. It was my first love." [09:44]

Taran’s Creative Journey

[10:33–19:03]

• Taran details his path: Starting musical theater at UCLA, leaving after a year for MADtv at age 19, later joining the Groundlings, which became his “origin story” as a comedian.
  • “My training at Groundlings was like, probably the happiest creative years of my life, you know, you're trying things, you're failing, but it's fun failing.” [15:53]
• He describes the pressure of being a “featured” performer: “You are only hired for four episodes, and then they could drop you...But if they liked you, then you did the back nine episodes. So you did Pressure, and it was crazy.” [14:09]

Manifestation & Woo Woo Moments

[18:20–24:31]

• Taran describes what he calls his “woo woo moment”: After missing out on SNL the first time, he would walk to Rockefeller Plaza at night, sit on a bench, and visualize himself joining SNL.
  • “I'd walk to Rockefeller and I'd sit at the bench at the ice rink, and I'd look up at the 17th floor and I'd be like, I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. And I would do this...for a month.” [21:42]
• Irene is visibly moved: “I'm getting chills right now with that one. Like, you're literally manifesting that and you're going to the physical spot.” [21:42]
• The group reflects on the difference between traditional goal setting and organic, intention-based goal visualization.

The Artist’s Way, Creative Rituals, & ‘Bad Elf’ Wisdom

[29:49–34:54]

• The panel discusses Julia Cameron’s “The Artist’s Way,” creative routines, and practical advice like writing “morning pages” and freeing up creativity through playful exercises (drawing without looking at the paper).
  • “The idea of accessing the mechanics in your brain to see the world around you as it actually is, as opposed to the noise that gets caught up in your head.” —Taran [30:22]
• Rachel’s go-to writing book is “Bird by Bird” (Anne Lamott), which teaches embracing the “shitty first draft.”
  • Taran adds a sketch-comedy twist: Director Zach Krager calls it the “bad elf,” giving yourself permission to write terribly at first: “It's not me. It's not my fault. It's not my fault. This bad elf...It's my job to fix it once it's done.” [34:03]

Ghosts, Signs, and Skepticism

[35:07–40:00]

• Taran doesn’t claim personal supernatural experiences but describes his fascination with theater ghosts, the tradition of the “ghost light,” and his analytic tendency to explain things away.
• He recounts his wife’s impactful tarot card reading—highlighting a moment of synchronicity involving a feather (later revealed by their child to be from arts and crafts).
  • Taran reflects: “Who's to say that that's not the sign?” [37:51]
• Taran is a “hardcore believer” in aliens but skeptical of online evidence, noting SNL taught him the importance of discernment: “We're all just people…You have to remain open and you have to give it grace to both sides of whatever the story.” [39:44]

SNL Dreams & Most Surreal Moments

[43:34–48:22]

• Both Rachel and Taran share recurring “SNL stress dreams” where they’re unprepared for a sketch.
• Most euphoric on-set moments:
  • Rachel: David Bowie rehearsing “Rebel Rebel” 50ft away during her cast photo shoot. [45:21]
  • Taran: Sharing dinner with Adele and their children in the 30 Rock cafeteria. “What is...Where are we? How did this happen?...We're just trying to get our kids some chicken tenders, you know?” [47:22]

Collections, Nostalgia & “On Display”

[49:21–51:36]

• Taran previews his upcoming podcast, “On Display,” about collections/collecting with Bobby Moynihan and Aristotle Atari: “That sort of compulsion to collect and preserve and to archive and the way that informs who you are.”
• Taran's collecting roots: 80s action figures, Star Wars toys. Rachel recalls childhood shell and rock collections.

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MEMORABLE QUOTES & MOMENTS (with timestamps)

• On Manifestation:
  “I'd walk to Rockefeller and I'd...look up at the 17th floor and I'd be like, I'm going to be there...I did it at least twice a week.” —Taran [21:42]

• On Accepting Imperfection in Creativity:
  “You're gonna have a shitty first draft. And I love that because it takes away…you’re going to get paralyzed.” —Rachel [34:03]

• On SNL’s Allure:
  “There's nothing like it. There's nothing like it. Never really has been, and I don't think could be.” —Taran [25:44]

• On Woo Woo & Synchronicity:
  “Who's to say that that's not the sign?” —Taran [37:51]

• On Compassion in the Industry:
  “You have to remain open and you have to give it grace to both sides of whatever the story.” —Taran [39:44]

• On Parenting & Showbiz:
  “We're just trying to get our kids some chicken tenders, you know?” —Taran [48:22]

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ASTROLOGY GUESSING GAME [54:02–60:16]

• Both hosts attempt to intuit Taran’s astrological sign, vacillating between Aries, Cancer, Leo, and Sagittarius.
• Revelation: Taran is an Aries, born April 1st—the same birthday as Irene’s father, to her delight!
• Taran: “That is so cool. That is a woo woo circle, baby.” [58:08]

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PENGI (PENDULUM) READING [61:03–62:11]

• Taran asks: “Will I be back on Broadway before 2028?”
• Both Rachel and Irene sense an immediate “YES.”
  • Taran: “I've never pendulumed before.” [61:47]
• Encouraging conclusion: The pendulum swings positive.

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EPISODE TONE & STYLE

Playful, supportive, irreverent, and highly engaging. The hosts and Taran bounce between showbiz nostalgia, metaphysical musings, and creative inspiration—peppered with personal asides and lots of laughter.

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SELECTED TIMESTAMPS FOR KEY SEGMENTS

• Celebrity/Comedy Hang & Broadway Joy: [03:08–10:33]
• Taran’s Path from UCLA to Mad TV: [12:49–16:38]
• Manifestation & Rockefeller Ritual: [21:42–23:26]
• Artist’s Way & Creativity: [29:49–34:54]
• Ghosts, Signs, and Woo Woo Skepticism: [35:07–40:00]
• SNL Stress Dreams & Euphoric Moments: [43:34–48:22]
• Childhood Collections & New Podcast: [49:21–51:36]
• Astrology Guessing Game: [54:02–60:16]
• Pengi Reading & Goodbye: [61:03–62:24]

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TAKEAWAYS

• Sometimes, “woo woo” is simply following a deep creative hunch, visualizing a dream, or being open to synchronicity.
• Even skeptics may find themselves doing “magical thinking” or participating in unintentional rituals.
• Creativity flourishes when we let go of perfection—and sometimes, just showing up at the metaphorical (or literal) 30 Rock bench is enough to invite in the magic.

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LISTENER USEFULNESS

This episode blends backstage SNL and Broadway stories with actionable creative advice and relatable discussions about life’s unexplainable coincidences. Whether you’re a believer, a skeptic, a comedy fan, or someone wrestling with creative blocks, you’ll find inspiration, laughs, and maybe a reason to try a little “woo woo” of your own.

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[A]

Welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch, the podcast that explores the unexplained with humor and curiosity. Hello and welcome to Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch, here with my pal and co host Irene Bremes. Hi Irene.

[C]

Hello sweetie.

[A]

Hello sweetie. Irene, we're excited today. We've had a lot of civilians lately which have told great stories and shared their precious time with us. But today we have a celebrity, former SNL and more comedian Jar Broadway studio stage and screen. Please welcome Taryn Killam to the show. Hi Taryn.

[B]

Hi my friends. Hi Rachel. Irene. We've only spent about, you know, two Minutes together already. It's been a dream.

[C]

It's a dream for me.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Irene's a dream. Taryn, thank you so much for joining us. Are you in LA right now?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I'm out. I'm out west. But I just saw you recently. I had the coolest run in with Rachel. Irene.

[C]

Why?

[B]

Because I went to see Jellicle Ball Cats on Broadway. And it. I highly recommend everyone go see it. It is salt of joy, and it is the domination of the marginalized. That's how. That's like how I'm. It's just. I was just overwhelmed and loved every second of it. And I went to a restaurant afterwards with some friends, and we sit down in a booth and they're like, I'm pretty sure you know every single person sitting behind you. And at this point, Rachel hadn't even gotten there yet. Rachel was like, truly the cherry on top of the sundae. But I. I look behind me, and it's on a gas dial. Paula Pell, her wife Janine. Tina Fey, Maya Rudolph, Emily Spivey. And I was like, oh, it was. It was like the Mount Rushmore of comedy. Just hanging. And then in walks, Rachel. Post Rocky Horror, the beautiful, post Broadway glow, The Misty, the towel around the neck. Bouquets of flowers. Bouquets of flowers in her arms. It was so fun.

[A]

To the place she does. Yeah, that was our one. You know what's funny? Don't get the idea that we hang every night. Because unfortunately, we haven't hung out at all. Cause Anna, Maya, and I are all on Broadway right now, which is so fun. And. And everyone's like. And we are like, oh, we're gonna hang out every night. It doesn't happen. Cause everyone's tired. But that was the one night we got to hang out. And with the bonus ladies there was so fun.

[B]

That was amazing.

[A]

Who's at the next table? But Taryn. And wait a minute. You were with the celebrity?

[B]

It was with a lot of Shonda. Shonda Rhimes.

[A]

Shonda Rhymes.

[B]

Yes. Shonda Rhimes and Scott Foley and the whole cast. My friend Katie Lowe was the one that connected me to that group. It was a very exciting night. It was a very like. Like a throwback to the golden age of Sardis. Kind of who's who of a hang.

[A]

Yes. Now, see what you get when we have a celebrity as a guest. We get a lot of name dropping here and rubbing shoulders with the hoy pollo.

[B]

That was a who's who of a hang. Now this is a Wooz. Woo. Of a hang.

[C]

Oh, nice segue, sweetie.

[B]

You also get pretty rough puns.

[A]

The verbal word. The verbal wordplay. Yes. Amazing. No, that was a good. That was. I was gonna say good hang. And that's Polish podcast. That was a fun time to run into, but I always love running into you. Now, we didn't overlap on snl, but you're just a ball of positive energy and fun, and I love your comedy. I got to see you in Spamalot. When that was on. I got to go to the opening of Spamalot.

[C]

I was with you.

[A]

You were with me.

[C]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Yes. Amazing.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

That was so joyful. Because you and Jimmy Smagula are. Are good friends because you guys did Guys and Dolls together.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

At the Kennedy center the season previous. And then this was a Kennedy center production that I was not a part of in D.C. but then got to join it in the Broadway, and it was joyful and. Yeah. Such a good cast. Such a good. I know. And. And we. It's gonna happen for us. I feel. It feels like a foregone conclusion, Right.

[A]

Yes. Yeah.

[B]

Because let me just give you. Give you praise, like watching you dominate the 50th anniversary with Debbie Downer, which I think everybody agrees was the highlight. You and De Niro and Debbie Downer was magnificent and wonderful, and you're just one of the best ever to do.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

To do that show ever.

[A]

Thank you. Of course. You never feel like that, do you, Taylor?

[B]

No, you certainly do. It's not set up to feel good.

[A]

That's. That's Woo After Dark. Special showbiz version.

[B]

Therapy session. Great.

[A]

Therapy session.

[C]

Therapy session.

[A]

Yes. So, okay, quick. I know you've been doing a lot of Broadway and you're also on the show Stumble, right? Is that what I was.

[B]

Yep. Stumble on NBC. We did one season. It didn't get picked up, unfortunately, but I really love that show. That was the last TV thing I did. And then I'm. I'm on high potential as well, which is like an ABC procedural starring Caitlin Olsen, which is really, really wonderful and nice to pop in and out of and. Yeah. Trying to. Staying busy.

[A]

Do you have more Broadway in your future? And the immediate horizon or immediate is

[B]

interesting because, as you know. Yes. It's a little bit of a secret, but I'm about to do a workshop for a show I've been helping out for a little over a year. And then we are going up next spring in San Francisco with hopes to end up on in. In New York. City.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

And then I did. I did a reading. You know, this is really fun. I don't think this is a spoiler, but I did a reading with Harper and. And Will for Eurovision.

[A]

Yes. I heard they're turning that into a musical.

[B]

It was so fun. It's so. It's already so good. This guy Sivan, who wrote all the music, has written every pop song in history, like, every Ariana Grande, Ed Sheeran, like. Like it. And it was just joyful and funny and as brilliantly silly as everything that Will and Harper do.

[C]

And.

[B]

Yeah, it was very.

[A]

Would you be. Would you be playing the Will Ferrell?

[B]

They let me for that reading I did. I'll do it if they. If they ask me when it comes to it. But. But I got to do it for the reading, and it was. Yeah. So joyful. Such an honor.

[A]

I don't want to overstate it, but I smell a hit. Okay, that's the draft. Take on that.

[B]

I'll take that.

[A]

Woo. Woo.

[B]

Maybe that's my answer. Maybe that's my pendulum answer, you know?

[A]

But there's so much fun on Broadway right now. Like, I love hearing that Eurovision is potentially coming to Broadway because there's so much, like, actual joyful. I mean, like, Schmigadoon. I mean, Titanique. Titanique. Oh, man.

[B]

I mean, Book of Mormon, of course,

[A]

and Cats, like you said, is the joy bomb. It's just unconventional. There's a lot of stuff on Broadway right now that's not the usual thing that you see on Broadway, and it's just a lot of fun. I mean, I love the usual thing, too, on Broadway, but this is just fun, kind of bending and making things just not what you'd expect.

[B]

So you're celebratory and joyful and silly is very hot right now on Broadway, thank God. But the gravitas is coming back. The gravitas, you know, Evita. I'm excited for Evita to come back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Jamie Lloyd and Rachel. Yeah, you know, it. Broadway is the best. There's not. It's, you know, it's the be. It's the best. And it was my first love. I grew up doing community theater and school plays and musical theater, and then I went to college for musical theater. And then, like on a fluke, kind of like just on a fluke audition that kept going very well. I got Mad tv, a sketch show, and that kind of put me into comedy. And everybody that I loved at Mad TV that I worked with had come from the Groundlings theater. So after I left MADtv, I went back and I started taking classes at the Groundlings and that's kind of like that was my sort of origin story of like Taryn the comedian. But it but the first love has always been musical theater. Always.

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[B]

It was the first year that UCLA offered musical theater as a specific major, so it was still a Bachelor of Arts. It wasn't fine Arts yet. Ray Bolger not the biggest name drop so far. The biggest name drop of the POD School name drop. Okay state when he passed away, he left a huge like Endowment to UCLA to start a musical theater program. And I. I had the great fortune of being, like, the very first class accepted into that program. And then it was somewhat wasted on me because I left after my freshman year to start working, but.

[A]

Oh, you did?

[B]

I loved my time at ucla. I loved the campus, the people I met, my closest friends that I have to this day are my UCLA friends.

[A]

Okay, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I have a question.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, sorry. I just blurted. Not at all. We do a lot of blurting here because we excited and then we blurt and then we get in the comments. People get mad because we interrupt blurb. I'm sorry. We don't call it interrupting. We call it enthusiastic excitement talk. Okay.

[B]

Yes, Anding.

[A]

Okay, so. Yes, Anding. Okay, so I have a question. So you left after a year because you start.

[B]

You got an acting gig because that was MAD TV. Yeah, I did MAD TV at 19 years old. Yeah. And I was very, too, too young, some would say.

[C]

Wow. But I love mad tv. So funny.

[B]

I did too. I was funny. I felt like Charlie from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Like. Like, I just overwhelmed of. And like, so many heroes that I'd watched on TV, like Will Sasso and Mo Collins, Michael McDonald, like Stephanie Weir. All these geniuses that I'd, like, couldn't believe where I was. And it was me and Bobby Lee and Catherine Fiore were all hired as, like, featured people. And, like, the deal for that one, which you'll appreciate, Rachel, because of, like, the complexities of, like, a featured cast member on a famous. Yeah. You are only hired for four episodes, and then they could drop you after that if they didn't like you. But if they liked you, then you did the back nine episodes. So you did Pressure, and it was crazy.

[A]

Did you make it through the next.

[B]

I got the 13. And then in that summer, I was supposed to, you know, the pickup would have been for a full season.

[A]

The pickup.

[B]

They came back and they're like, we want to offer you, like, 17 of 22. And I was like, yes. And every. All my reps were like, no. How dare. Like, it was like, you know, the. The jaded cynicism of your. Of your mentors and guides were like, no, this is. This is a shame. This is. So I. I took their advice and I, like, turned it down, which my mom hated, and was immediately like, so you go back to school now? Yes. And I didn't because, like, I kept getting jobs, which was nice. Like, oh, well, that's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It all worked out in the end. But definitely, like, doing Mad tv. And I would say, like, my relationship to comedy has always been very reverent and certainly, like, form, like part of my DNA. And like, I was the kid that would see the Jim Carrey movie on the weekend, and then Monday, Tuesday was quoting every scene, you know, to make friends.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the idea of doing that professionally was not on my radar. It was very much theater or tv, film. Like, be an actor. And getting mad TV in that way with, like, literally being thrown in the deep end made me realize that, like, I had capability in that art form. And also I. I did love it and I did love doing it. So my training at Groundlings was like, probably the happiest creative years of my life, you know, of like, you're trying things, you're failing, but it's fun failing. And you're like, yeah, the best laughs are the sketches that do poorly. And you're like, who? What was I thinking? And so joyful. And then, you know, every sort of professional achievement after that adds this weird pressure where it, like, you know, that's

[A]

how I feel about Second City too. Like, it was just so fun. And, you know, you're young and you're just like improvising every night. This is like in the. With the funniest people surrounding you. And it was so fun. Yeah. By the way, Stephanie Weir and I were together at Second City.

[B]

Oh, were you? Yeah.

[A]

She's so talented.

[B]

Her and Bob are so.

[A]

So what year were you on MADtv?

[B]

It was 2001 to 2002.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. And then one other question. Like, what was your audition for Mad tv? Was it kind of like snl, like just going with characters sort of thing, or.

[B]

Yeah, very different in that. Like, you know, snl, you're either auditioning in the theater space you're comfortable in. Right. It's like you're showcasing at the Groundlings theater or at Improv Olympic or Second City or a stand up club with Mad tv. It was like an audition in an audition room and, like, was the casting director. And like, I came in with something like, you know, like I did like 15 impressions of like, young WB celebrities, like, a lot of, like, Vander Beaks and a lot of Josh Hartnets. And, you know, and like, I was like, this will. That's what I can bring. That's not on the show right now. And I did that and then like, my original characters because, you know, 19 and I've never taken an improv.

[A]

I wouldn't have had one.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it. Well, it was just like teachers from high school that I would make fun of.

[A]

Oh, that's smart.

[B]

Yeah. And like, so I had like three that were strongish and distinct enough. And then I went in for producer sessions twice, I think, and they would have you, like, read a sketch that had already been on the show to see your chemistry with other people. And then I had to test at Fox. Like there was like an official test in a. With studio executives.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

And that was at the Fox lot, which was really exciting to me because there's a. There's. They do these big murals on the sides of the sound stages. There's like a Sound of Music mural and a Die Hard mural and stuff. And where our waiting room was, it overlooked the Star wars mural of like, Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader fighting in Empire Strikes Back. And I was like, this is it. That's a sign. This is this. I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get it. And that's probably about as woo woo as I've been in my life.

[C]

I was gonna say that's woo woo.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

We got a sign, people, A literal sign.

[B]

It's like, okay, Luke, I'm Luke. Facing his fears, facing his father, having a big. His life being altered and changed and like. And finding out who his dad is. And. Yeah.

[A]

So then, you know, I was kind of surprised. Wait, sorry. I know we'll get to other things, but one thing is like, like, I always thought SNL wouldn't take someone who's been on Mad tv, but maybe that kind of changed and they like, how did you. How did the SNL come about?

[B]

I mean, years later, after, after Mad, SNL became more of a reality in that sort of epiphany of like, oh,

[A]

you're groundling pretty good at this.

[B]

And then I go to Groundless and I do the classes, which takes me, you know, from the time I took my first class to becoming a main company member was like seven years. But by the time I got to Sunday, and I always had a feeling like, if I can be seen, if I can audition at home base and do my camera test, I'll have. I'll have a good shot. I think I'll have a good shot. And I just kind of put that out there.

[A]

I'm into the universe. Let's.

[B]

By the way, I'm realizing how woo this is. I'm going to blow your mind with actually probably my woo woo story. Okay, so, like, doing classes, get to Sunday company, they come to see Nassim Patrad, because Nassim had submitted a tape to Tina is reps or something like that. So Tina knew of Nasim and, like, recommended her. And they came and they took four of us to audition and at like, the Home Base camera test audition at 8h. And then Nasim and I got asked back two weeks later to do it again. Two weeks later. And they're like, we want to see all new stuff. I was like, well, we did all our best stuff first. So we did it again. Then Nasim got it that year.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And I was told unofficially, like, it's. It's not now, but it's not never. And he's on our radar. And we're, you know, that happened to me, too. But is that. Oh, funny. Oh, funny, yeah.

[A]

Audition two times.

[B]

You did.

[A]

I didn't get it the first year. And they're like, well, you never know. But I kind of let it go.

[B]

But yes, you have to let it go. You have to write like grain of salt. And yet I'm sure you like me. Like, part of your brain is like, okay, if I ever get back to that stage, what can I do in that environment that will pop right? Cut to a year later. My wife is doing an off Broadway show, Love Loss and what I Wore. It's like Nora Ephron and her sister and they wrote these monologues and my wife's doing that at the theater where they're doing Little Shop right now. And our daughter is one year old, our first child. And I'm sort of like, you know, Mr. Mom during the day and taking care of her at night, you guys. I would go on walks and I'd walk to Rockefeller and I'd sit at the bench at the ice rink, and I'd look up at the 17th floor and I'd be like, I'm going to be there. I'm going to be there. And I would do this. I would do this. No exaggeration, for a month. I did it at least twice a week.

[C]

I'm getting chills right now with that one. Like, you're literally manifesting that and you're going to the physical spot.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And just focusing on that. I just got some chills there.

[A]

That's.

[B]

Yeah, that was a magical time to sing.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm just jaw agape.

[C]

Me, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't believe this.

[B]

Because it's also like, so it's summer, but it's. It's. I'm going to say it's like July, and I'm going for these Walks. Like when Kobe gets back from her show, I'd like, I'm going to go out and walk around Manhattan. So it's like 11:30 at night at Rockefeller. It's kind of dead.

[A]

Oh, 11:30 at night. Show starts. Okay, go ahead. Sorry.

[B]

And no, no, no, no.

[A]

I know no show happening, but just no show happening.

[B]

And none of the energy of the show. And there's something that it was so quiet that, like thinking about that, thinking back now in this moment, I'm like, whoa. I really had, like, I really had time in that plaza to myself. Like, yeah. Which is not always the case. Like, certainly not when the show is active. It always feels so busy.

[C]

Wow. And also the moon. So something about the moon while you're.

[B]

I like this. I like the moon.

[A]

I like this. Let's tie in the moon.

[B]

I like a moon.

[C]

We're tying in the moon.

[B]

I love a moon.

[C]

Everybody knows rituals are casted during moon moon.

[A]

But you know what I love about this? I had the sort of dream of snl, but I didn't really dare speak its name, you know, I wasn't like doing this kind of thing. But I like that you had this vision and this goal and you did, you like, aligned your vibes. If I may, to try to achieve this. Like you actually did sort of prayers, almost whatever you want to call it.

[B]

No, absolutely.

[A]

Spiritual exercises.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

To bring this thing into your life. I think that's so cool.

[B]

That is so cool. Probably was inspired. Like, you know, I've done various acting classes and stuff and I've done the artist's way. I don't know if you. Yeah, yeah. Artist way is a lot about manifesting, visualizing, about journaling, getting the thoughts down on paper, being present, getting to your presence, accessing the right side of your brain, not being self conscious, you know, so it would come out of that. But it definitely, like, in terms of my career, the most pointed, focused goal from the time I was 19 was SNL. It was. And, yeah. And, and, and the blessing and curse of that is like the blessing being quite obvious. I got it. Still kind of can't believe that. And then the curse is like, now what? Now this is all I ever wanted. This is it. I'm here and I do it. And now, you know, I, I, you get asked like, cool, so what do you, what is your career? What are you going to do next? I was like, I, I don't know. I only, I only thought this far ahead.

[A]

Totally. I mean, I still, I've been off the show 20 years now, which I can't even believe. But I still. It's still sort of like the pinnacle. I don't mean, like, it's all downhill from here, but it's like, that's like the big comedy dream job. And so, like, even though there's things that are as fun or more fun or more chill or whatever they might be, like, that's still like the latter kind of stops there in terms of, like. I mean, I'm. Whatever. I'm rambling here.

[B]

Well, no, I even think. I think you're right. I think about this a lot and I think, like, even they did, like, an Eddie Murphy documentary. I don't know if you watched it on. On Netflix and. But he was like, my first awareness of the show. He's the one that, like, I want and, like, emulated and obsessed over. But even in his documentary, they basically finish with him finally going back to host and him being like, this is where it all began and this will always be it. And then it was again, so great seeing him at the 50th play and have fun.

[A]

Oh, he was so funny.

[B]

He wasn't even. He wasn't fully willing to do it. The 40th even.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But then at the 50th, he's in multiple sketches.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. He brought it.

[B]

Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it is. It's just. It's such. There's nothing like it. There's nothing like it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Never really has been. And I don't think. Could be. But of course, I just jinxed it. So there'll be something.

[A]

You know, what I never do and what we have to do. It's like, you gotta think of. Because, I mean, I'm. I'm pretty satisfied with, like, where I'm at right now. But I never think, like, Tony nominated bigger. Well, yes. No, I never think bigger. Like, what's next on my. Like, I'm just. I just like, kind of floating down the stream and seeing what comes my way and putting out good. You know, I want to be creative and I want to, like, bring joy in this. Yeah. Up world. But, you know, those being the goals. But also, I like, kind of not. I'm not a real goal setter in a way that I like, but I don't know how you guys are.

[B]

I've had to. Are you, Irene? Are you a goal setter?

[C]

Well, no, I just like the way that you're setting your goal with intention, you know, by taking that walk and freeing your mind and just. It's almost like it's not as rigid or obligatory as setting a goal. I think we put pressure on ourselves when we must set a goal. That in itself is a goal. Setting a goal, it's sucks.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So the fact that you kind of like walk and just, you're almost daydreaming,

[B]

in a sense, it's following a feeling, right? Like, you just follow a feeling like, oh, this feels good. And I'm, I want to go, I want more of this, or I want to be close to this because it's making me feel positive.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

I love that.

[A]

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[A]

Wait. One thing you brought up that we've never talked about here is the artist's way, which that was like. I did that too. That was like really big back in, I don't know, the 90s, I want to say. I mean people are still doing it, but it's a book and probably more than a book right now by Julia Cameron, I believe. And it's just about how to free up your own creativity, whether you're a professional or you just want to be more creative in your own life. But I remember the daily pages that I wasn't that good at keeping up with. And what were some of the other like if anyone's interested in tapping into their creativity, I mean this is.

[B]

There was draw. Like I always. What really spoke to me was the drawing because I love comic books, art, cartoons, illustration. And they would do it. You do an exercise. Would you put an object in front of you and you'd put the pencil to paper and you weren't allowed to look at the paper and you just had to look at the object and try to draw it from like line by line and just follow it. And it was so great. And I think it starts where they go like draw a chair from memory. Just draw a chair. And now look at a chair and draw that. And just kind of like that idea of accessing the mechanics in your brain to see the world around you as it actually is, as opposed to the noise that gets caught up in your head.

[C]

Wow, I love that.

[A]

Did you ever do that? I mean, or hear.

[C]

I mean I did Writing down the Bones. There was that book.

[A]

Oh, I remember that book, Writing down the Bones.

[C]

But I thought of like doing like what you just suggested, drawing a picture. I think that one I would like to try and I will be trying it right after this show, you know,

[A]

because it really kind of like teaches Jewel behind you.

[B]

Post it. Yeah, post it on the socials. Put it up.

[A]

Oh yeah, there you go.

[C]

Because I think it's important like what you just said, looking at an object and then having your body and hand follow that because we're so in our head, when we're even trying to draw, we're not free.

[A]

Good point.

[C]

We're looking. We're going back again. It's pressure, you know? Yes, yes.

[A]

You just reminded me. Also because you said Writing down the Bones, My favorite book on writing that I'm gonna blurt, blurt, blurt, is Bird by Bird. Have you ever read that, Taren? Oh, no, it's by.

[B]

Okay, Bird by Bird by Bird.

[A]

I'm writing it down if you're interested in writing. It's so good. There's so much that sticks with you about writing or even just life, probably. But the title, I love the title comes from when she was little. The author was little. Her brother had this book report due about birds. And he saved it all. I just got a little chill. Cause this, and this speaks to me. He saved it all to the last minute. So he has these piles of books stacked on the kitchen table, and he's so, like, despondent and frustrated. And the dad comes down and he just kind of like taps him on the shoulder, goes like, just take it Bird by bird, buddy.

[C]

I love that. I just love Heavy.

[A]

That's so sweet. I love it.

[B]

That is so similar to a piece of advice my mom gave me. I can go back to the kitchen where I'm like, okay, I got the ma. The pro. It's due tomorrow. And then. And my mom, and this is something I live by, she's like, a lot can be accomplished in an hour. Like, if you set an alarm for an hour, just do as much as you can in that hour. And that. And you are. I'm daily blown away by like, oh, God, I gotta answer the emails, I gotta respond to the thing. I'm supposed to write, like, that outline. And you sit down, you do it all, and 25 minutes goes by.

[C]

That's brilliant.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

That's why a lot of writers have the egg timer. You know, they set the egg timer for even 20 minutes and again write for 20 minutes. Because life is filled with pressure. Yeah.

[A]

I'm gonna use the birth for my. My son's next homework.

[B]

Meltdown can be accomplished in an hour. A lot.

[C]

That will spread like a major conflagration around this. This part, my household. It's gonna be Bird by bird and moving forward.

[B]

Sweet. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

No.

[A]

One thing I love about Bird by Bird. That is the thing. Probably my number one lesson is it says, like, you're gonna have a shitty first draft. And I love that because it takes away. Because otherwise you don't Even start. If you're trying to write something, it has to be perfect or like you have to get every line right or whatever. You're not gonna. You're gonna get paralyzed. So the, the idea that you're just gonna like crap out something semi bad, but you'll have something there, I think that's really helpful.

[B]

I'm gonna regurgitate Zach Krager's story that I just saw. The direct, direct director sketch comedian from the Widest Kids. You know, Zach Krager, he did weapons and he did barbarian. He's so, so good. He. His. His very similar bad draft exercises. He calls it the bad elf. That you've hired a bad elf to write the worst version of it. I love it like that. Genius. It's not me. It's not my fault. It's not my fault. This bad elf. I'm playing a role of a bad elf and I. And I told my bad elf the idea, but the bad elf has to write out and then it's my job to fix it once it's done because it's so much easier to rewrite and to edit and stuff. And yeah.

[C]

Bird by bird has competition.

[A]

I'm flapping my hands with excitement about the bad elf. I love that. The bad elf. I'm gonna use that. Oh, my gosh.

[C]

Oh, I'm using that. I'm already using it. I'm blaming the battle for a lot of shit around here. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, wow. So Taran, I mean, you've already. You said you didn't have woo woo. And we've gone into creativity, which is good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We've woo wooed the creative. Yeah. But I'm not wrapping it up because I still might dig to see if you've ever seen a ghost.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Ghosts are the most fun. Ghosts are the most fun. And I think, like, tying it back to theater, like, the concept of the ghost light is so romantic.

[C]

I was just thinking that.

[B]

Funny. Yeah. And so I'm like, I want like a theater ghost. How beautiful. Like some like Shakespearean era theater. Theater ghost sounds so romantic to me. I have never experienced a ghost. I have lots of friends who do believe and they're like my favorite people because there's like, there's a giddy joy to it. There's like a real curiosity of existence for those who are like, no, I know it had to be a ghost. There's no other way to explain it. And I'm such like an analytic explainer. I'm like, or solar flare from they. Whatever. Yeah.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Or the moon. Or just the moon.

[A]

Or the moon. I might. I might have to send you a few of our best ghost stories. Just. Yeah, please change your mind. But have you ever had like a. Any sort of like, psych. First of all, because. Did you grow up in California too?

[B]

Yeah, I'm an L. A kid. Yeah.

[A]

Have you ever had any sort of like, even if it was a bad, like sort of gone to a reading or whatever? Anything like the Woo Woo practitioners. Have you ever gone to anyone like that?

[B]

You should have my wife on this podcast because she has sign her up. She had a reading. She went to a reading. She went to. I think it was tarot card that really affected her. And she's not. I think she would say as well, she is not Woo Woo herself, you know, by trade. But this one affected her and it's her story and it's kind of personal, so I don't want to steal it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But there is a P.S. like a postscript to it that I love because it's hilarious to me.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And it has to do with a family member that passed away. And so she had. There were details that connected that Toby came back so emotional, so raw, so beautiful. Like, it made me want to believe. And of course I wasn't there. So I'm just holding the space for like. Yes. Because you feel this way. It is all real. And the next day she finds part of it was like this was a person who went outdoors and she finds an eagle feather in her backyard. And she goes, taryn. And she's so emotional about this eagle feather and she can't believe it. And she's. Oh my God. And she's like, I don't know what to do with this. It's a sign. I don't know what to do with this. And then later that day, our youngest child comes in and goes, has anybody seen the feather I brought from school for my arts and crafts? I got a big white feather from arts and crafts and I'm trying to do it for my project and I can't remember where I left it. I. I held on to that feather. I held onto that because it was like it. It is. This is. Who's to say that that's not the sign?

[C]

That is a sign. That is a sign.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

The die hard Woo Woo would say more meaningful.

[B]

Your youngest child got time with the energy connected to this. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. So magical. I like the idea goes. I hardcore believe in aliens. I've never seen an alien, but it's also just like, come on, come on, guys.

[C]

Let's be.

[B]

Let's be real here.

[C]

Let's be real. Gravitational pull. Reality. Geez.

[A]

Have you done any? Because I have not. Because I was talking about this just last week, actually, like now it's like out there through the government and everything. But have you done. Have you actually read any? Because I, I do this podcast. I've never actually, like, read what am I supposed to believe about these aliens? Because it's, it's being thrown at us in vague drips and short answer is yes.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

The longer answer is, so what? Because I'm now training myself to believe nothing I see on the Internet. Well, that's with like, AI and Photoshop and conspiracy things and all. All of it. All of it. And I don't know if this is true for you, Rachel, but a great lesson from SNL is like, you're meeting these celebrities, you're meeting these heroes, and hopefully to. To do a good job, you have to get over that really fast. Right? And how this relates is like, we're all just people. We're all just. Everybody has good days, everybody has bad days. We're all people just doing our best. And it was such an education on press, on pr, on whatever the story is in the magazine or on the TMZs and what, what the actual objective reality is versus what's being said out there. You're exposed to it on a weekly basis. You really are of like, you know, whatever starlet you have who's dating the thing, and then you're sitting rehearsing your, like, football locker room sketch and she's like, no, I actually never met that person. I don't know. You know what I mean?

[A]

Right? Yeah.

[B]

So just the discernment, the discernment of what you're hearing, what you're reading and really kind of like subscribing to myself of like, until I experience it firsthand, you have to remain open and you have to give it grace to both sides of whatever the story.

[A]

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[B]

Hey Meta, any last minute tables for two tonight?

[A]

Sure, there's a great Italian restaurant 15 minutes away.

[B]

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[A]

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[C]

Just saying.

[B]

Hey Meta, am I forgetting anything else?

[A]

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[C]

Penji, I think we've covered a wide range of very interesting stuff and I think this episode was more woo woo than you expected.

[A]

Tam, than we expect. The Rockefeller Plaza looking at the sky.

[B]

That's a good one, right?

[C]

Yeah, that's an excellent one.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

It's a bench where the ice rink is like to your back, it's like. But you know, it's like up there and the ice cream is your back and the big golden statue is like behind you. And yeah, I just sit on the bench and I just stare up and I did it like twice a week for a month.

[C]

Can I say something about that?

[B]

That's like, no, we gotta move on. I'm so sorry.

[C]

And you Know what? It's the elf's fault. If I've learned anything during this episode,

[B]

that elf is saying, wrap it up. No. Yes, of course. Please say please.

[C]

But I want to say you did. Now that I think of it is almost like a. A living vision board. You know when you place things up

[B]

at your vision board? Yeah. That's another book. The Secret that everybody was.

[A]

Oh, the Secret. Oh, I was into the Secret.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, the Secret. Actually, I had very good success with the Secret. I had some crazy secret things, but then I dropped it all, and now I forget about it. But I gotta. I gotta get back on the Secret. Maybe.

[C]

Do you get my bird, sweetie?

[A]

Living vision board. I like that.

[B]

I like that a lot.

[A]

What were you gonna say?

[B]

Well, I was gonna ask you. Rachel. Well, and Irene, do you have SNL stress streams?

[A]

Oh. Oh, yes, I do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're like, you're about. You're. You're needed for the sketch and you didn't even know you were in it. You don't know the lines. And Lauren's usually there.

[B]

Same. What is that?

[A]

Do you have them?

[B]

A month ago, had one where I was standing at 8h. I was no longer on the show. It didn't feel like a show night. And then it was. And they bring in the Weekend Update desk, desk. And they're like, come sit. You're doing. You're doing update. You're gonna be the anchor. And Lauren sits behind the desk with me. And he's like, it's okay, I'll be here. Just read the cards. I'm gonna do it with you. And then he, like, turns to do the first joke, but it's like Charlie Brand adult Wawa. You know, it's like. And you hear laughs and stuff, and I'm freaking out, and I don't know what to do. But that was a weird one. That was an escalation for what it normally is.

[A]

That's a good one.

[B]

He's like, I'm gonna do it with you. Don't worry. Just read the cards.

[C]

Hurts.

[A]

By the way, excellent Lauren impression.

[B]

What is that?

[C]

Why.

[B]

Why is that happening to us?

[A]

I don't know. I mean, it was a stressful job.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it had all the fun and all the dream job, but it was also stressy. Yeah.

[B]

Do you have. Do you have top of your brain, like, most euphoric moment, most holy, holy crap moment that you. That maybe you haven't shared frequently?

[A]

Oh, well, that's a great question. I mean, I have a few of them. Some at the Very beginning, when you're just, like, looking around, oh, my God, I can't believe I'm here. I still would have pinch me moments, but, I mean, at the very beginning. I've told this before, but when I was even getting my photo taken for the opening credits, and David Bowie was the musical guest, and he was rehearsing with his band like, 50ft away from me while I'm getting my picture taken, and he was playing Rebel. Rebel.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And. And I was. That was like, what dream world am I in right now? But that was before I even did anything on the show. You know, that was just like, oh, my gosh, your dream came true. And you're in a very surreal, dreamy space right now.

[B]

It's unblemished. You feel glamorous. You feel. You're. You know. All Bowie has to do is look over and be like, well, I suppose that's the new star of the show.

[A]

I mean, I never interacted with Bowie, but he was. I'm going to picture that I had the charm of having him as the first music guest. But what about you?

[B]

I mean, so many. What made me think of it is on the Lonely island podcast, they. They caught up. They've caught up to the season where I joined, and there was a Jim Carrey sketch that I got on, and he's been my hero idol.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that was a cool one, but it's had me thinking about what other ones. This is a really cool one I don't think I've ever talked about before. Yeah, it was when Adele was the musical guest and she had a child, like, maybe a year younger than my oldest. Like. Like, my memory is that Shay was 4 or 5, and her son was a year younger, and she was rehearsing. And we're on the floor Thursday to see her sound check, and her son is there. And I just see a human moment of, like, mom wanting to be with her kid and. But Mommy has to go work. And I'm a big dork and collector, as I said before. And so I had this Batmobile in my office that was, like. Had been gifted to me. And I was like, this would be a cool thing. I run upstairs, I get the Batmobile, and I bring it for Adele's son. And I'm like, here, this could be fun to play with. Like, just the empathy of the parent thing. Like, here, have this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the kid was, like, pretty stoked about it and took it and played. And then we get to rehearsing, and later, Adele security guy goes, oh, hold on a second. And he goes, adele, this is the gentleman that brought the car. And, like, it was like, that was so nice. Oh, my God, that's so sweet of you. A couple of years, like, oh, well, I have a kitten. And I. And I brought Shailen to. To watch her sound check because Shay was like, we, like, hello was the song.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And I was like, yeah, I'm okay. You know, this is my child. And I was like, we're going to get dinner right now at the cafeteria. And Adele's like, I think I've got one more thing to do, but do you mind taking. And so Adele's son and nanny joined us, and then Adele, like, 20 minutes later, joined us in the cafeteria at 30 Rock, and we had dinner. Like, I guess it was between dress before dress rehearsal. Right. That's when the dinner break is. So it was before the dress show at 8. Shay had come to. To hear that sound check and stuff. And I got to have this moment of, like, sitting at the 30 Rock cafeteria with Adele and her child. And it was like, like, so surreal. It was like, what is. Where are we? How did this happen? And, like, Shay's young enough that I know she has no memory of it, but it is. It is crystallized in my brain for sure. Of, like, this. Like, wow. This. This diva legend, iconic voice of a generation. Just. We're just trying to get our kids some chicken tenders, you know?

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Trying to get our kids some french fries and chicken tenders.

[A]

Also. I love it that that story came out of you having an act of kindness, by the way. Like, you had the empathy and the, you know, the thoughtfulness.

[B]

Yeah. And then. Well, it was always so hard where you're like, the guest of the week comes and you're trying to connect, you're trying to relate. But on that level because. Because that's also like, going back to our goal thing. Like, that's something that changed was like, you're young, and you're in your teens and 20s, and you're like, my goal is career and professional thing. And then life happens, and you're like, no, my goal now is to raise and care for this human being and make them well rounded, make them ground, you know?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And so, yeah, there was this moment where I was like, o, I see the human now. And this will be a nice, connective moment thing. And.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't imagine having kids while doing the show.

[B]

It was. It. It added challenges, for sure. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Wow. Well, Taran, before we do our Pengi reading. You said that you have a upcoming podcast of your own. That sounds pretty cool.

[B]

I do. Me and Bobby Moynihan and Aristotle Atari, all SNL alums, are doing a podcast called On Display. And it's a podcast for collectors because we're very big collectors of comic books, sports cards, what have you. And we'll have a guest that has a collection of their own, which is not always like nerd culture. Sometimes it's guitars, sometimes it's harmonicas, sometimes it's shoes, you know, but we're talking about that. That sort of like compulsion to collect and to preserve and to archive and the way that. That informs who you are as. As a performer and as a professional, but also as a human being.

[A]

Oh, I love that Sounds really interesting. You know, you're reminding me because I don't. I don't collect anything per se, but what you're reminding me of is being a kid. That was like an activity. Like, I've got a coin collection, I've got a stamp collection, I've got a shell collection, whatever. Like, collections were a part of like kid activities. And I totally forgot about that. Yeah, I had a little museum in my room and it was like shells or rocks that I found. And I would write down the little tag, like found on the beach in Cape Cod. 19, whatever. And I had. That was my collection. But.

[B]

But then you grew up. This is for all of us in a state of arrested development who are just like, never.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

No, it's cool though.

[A]

What. What did you collect when you were a kid? And is it the same thing?

[B]

Action figures were a really big deal to me. So like, I was like a kid of the 80s. So. Ninja Turtles, Thundercats, He Man, GI Joe, and then Star wars, like I caught the tail end of it, like the Return of the Jedi tale and then it went away. And then there's this, this line called Power of the Force that came back in 97 when they were releasing. Re. Releasing all the special editions of the theater. And that's when I like, went pro and I was like, I'm gonna have everyone. I'm gonna have one out of the box, one in the box, one of each. I'm gonna line up at midnight for the Phantom Menace toy release. I'm gonna do and. And went pretty, pretty crazy.

[A]

The Star Wars. The Star wars mural has extra significance now. Yeah.

[B]

Really? That's, that's.

[A]

And that's what we call full circle.

[B]

That's a circle. That's a Woo circle, baby. I mean, that's just a Woo Woo circle.

[C]

That's a Woo Woo circle.

[A]

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[C]

Yes, we can. But not before I try to guess your sign. I'm sorry?

[A]

Oh, right. Oh, yeah. That's a good thing.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Exciting. You think you know, Irene, I really do.

[B]

I have to try to like, throw you off. So I'm taking on a different like.

[C]

No, it's too late for that. It's too late.

[A]

By the way, Irene. Now, Taran, I'm really bad at this because I don't know the traits of all the signs, but I did have some. But I did have something just pop into my head. I'm gonna take a stab. But, Irene, you go, no. Taryn, don't say yes or no. We're not always successful at this. But, Irene, do you want to go first with two guesses, and then I'll say mine, and then we can see?

[C]

Yes. And I'm gonna go with three guesses with two guesses. First of all, I'm gonna go with this because you remind me of my dad, and I love my dad. You're so delightful and sweet, and you have such a nice energy. Funny. I'm gonna say two things. You're either an Aries, like my dad, or if that's not right, then I'm gonna have to go with cancer. I always do two. I always do two.

[A]

Okay, now I'm gonna go two. And I don't know anything about this. I'm gonna say, what if we're wrong on all of them? I mean, I'm usually wrong.

[C]

Most of the time.

[A]

I'm gonna say a Leo or a Sag.

[C]

Oh, he could be a Sag. You're right.

[A]

Did we get any of them right?

[C]

Sagittarius.

[B]

Do you also want to try to guess my Chinese zodiac?

[A]

That's a year thing, right?

[B]

That's a year thing. And then there's. And then there's an element that I've learned from my youngest child. She told me, like, this is the year of the fire horse.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

That was a question. That was a question that came up. Forte and I did who Wants to Be a Millionaire together for charity. And that was a question that came up. And I was like, I. I'm pretty sure I know the answer. We talked about this, but Forte was like, should we also maybe kill the audience there, buddy? And I was like, sure, sure, sure. Let's do it. And so I was like, you were right.

[A]

All right.

[B]

You knew that.

[A]

All right, buddy, this Forte impression is. I need a moment for how good.

[B]

He's the best. He's the freaking best.

[A]

Oh, my God. That impression.

[B]

I don't know. Maybe it could be. I don't want to do the wrong thing here. Don't want to say the wrong thing and mess up and we get the answer wrong. Well, then you should go ahead and do it. He's great. He's joyful.

[A]

He's Joyful. Such a good impression. So I'm assuming we got all those wrong.

[C]

But. But Leo and. And. And SAG are very good guesses.

[A]

Thank you, Irene.

[C]

Yeah, you're welcome, sweetie.

[B]

Should we. Should we do like one more down narrow. This is what I'm gonna say.

[A]

It was said something.

[B]

It was said. It's one of the four earlier. It's one of the four. Do you both want to narrow down? Of the four.

[A]

Okay, let's talk traits. Irene.

[C]

Okay, let's talk traits. He's sweet, positive.

[A]

Very positive.

[C]

Very positive and very sad.

[A]

Leo. I don't know why I thought Leo. Maybe just because you have a beard and it looks like a mane. Because you have a hat on and a beard and it looks like a lion's man. I know a lot of Leos are actors. Maybe so that's why I thought of that. But I really don't know much about Leo. And then, I mean, I don't know anything about Aries.

[C]

Why I picked Sagittarius. Okay. Sagittarius is a very good one. I might have to switch to SAG actually. Cancer or Cancer. I'll tell you why.

[A]

Cancers are sensitive and nice, right?

[C]

Yes, Cancers are very sensitive and nice. They're intelligent, they're funny, and they always have some weird insight. If I'm wrong, this is definitely. All these signs might be in your chart. And sometimes we pick up sure. On the rising.

[B]

The moon's the thing.

[A]

You know what?

[C]

It's the elf fault if this is wrong.

[B]

It's a bad. The bad elf is like the bad. I'm gonna reveal it now.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And it's gonna reveal. It's pretty perfect to me for this podcast and the premise, because this feels it. It was the most woo woo answer, which was Irene's very first answer. I am an Aries. I was born April 1st.

[C]

I. That's my father's birthday.

[A]

April 1st.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

What?

[C]

That's my father's birthday. Rachel.

[B]

That's wild. That's.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

I knew it.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's woo woo. That's woo woo. That's a woo woo circle.

[C]

Crazy. That is exactly my father's birthday.

[B]

Incredible.

[C]

Okay. This makes up for all the. That I failed in the past.

[A]

Okay. I'm getting on top.

[B]

It's like Professor. It's Professor Trelawney. Do you know that reference from. From Harry Potter, Emma Thompson's character and professor in Harry Potter, she. Well, because, like, unfortunately, there's a little like, scandalous.

[A]

Now it's also after our time.

[B]

Yeah. Professor Trelawney is. Is. She's like. She's sort of basically the reading the tea leaves teacher. Woo woo teacher. I forget. I forget what her class is called. But Hermione hates it because she's all logic. But Professor Trelawney is responsible for the prophecy of Harry. Of like how that only. Only one can live and only thing, like she does it twice in her life and the rest of the time she's way off and way wrong. But these two prophecies that she have become. They become. Yeah.

[C]

So maybe my father was helping me. Maybe he was helping me because that's crazy.

[B]

That's my father.

[A]

That's why that's amazing.

[C]

That's insane. And I'm taking that as a woo woo.

[B]

What if we just.

[A]

Wait, Irene. What if we just cut all the other sign guessing and we just edit it skillfully so you say you might have that option. April 1st.

[B]

April 1st.

[A]

Amazing listeners. We're not gonna do that. We're gonna.

[B]

I won't betray it. I won't betray that. That's just curated. It's not a lie. It was curated.

[C]

It's curated. I like that word.

[A]

Right at the beginning you said it right.

[C]

There's something delightful about you. Very.

[A]

Tell me about Aries.

[C]

Yeah, they're very sweet. Although they can have a temper. Not always, but they really can have a temper.

[B]

Especially on these LA streets during traffic hour.

[A]

Oh, there you go. Road rage.

[C]

Road rage is.

[A]

Wait, what though?

[C]

Funny.

[A]

Great storytellers.

[C]

Very funny. Great storytellers. That's what I always describe my dad as. Check, check. Just very affable and sweet and conversational. But also a little shy sometimes, believe it or not, even though you didn't exhibit that here, but there's something underneath it. What am I doing here? I'm turning into that.

[B]

I love it. I love it. No, I. I've always heard like, like leadership. It's fire sign. It's very much like.

[C]

Well, of course it is.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And. And self assured and knowing and those are like the traits that I've always kind of like gone. Like. Yeah, yeah, that sounds good.

[C]

That's.

[B]

Yeah, I do know what I'm talking about.

[C]

Well, I'm sure you have all those,

[B]

but the temper thing for sure too. Yeah.

[C]

This. In this business. But what I was picking up from my dad and. And look at it was exactly on my dad's birthday.

[B]

That's the best compliment I've maybe ever received. Yeah.

[C]

Although, let me just say this, Rachel.

[B]

I could be.

[C]

Or a Leo. Those were wonderful choices, sweetie.

[A]

Thank you. Irene always me up, buttercup. All right, so we'll do the pen and then we'll let you go to your regular life out of Woo Woo.

[C]

This was so fun, by the way.

[B]

This was so fun.

[C]

So fun.

[A]

So, okay, we'll do your Pengi reading. So you think of a question. Nothing that's going to make you too sad if it's not the answer you want. And then you reveal it after we get our answer.

[C]

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[A]

Pride month.

[B]

Oh, beautiful. Love this.

[C]

Here we go.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Do you have. Do you have your. Your question?

[B]

I'm gonna go with the original. I like it. I'm gonna ask the pendulum will I be back?

[A]

Because we don't like to know when we're swinging this fish.

[B]

I've never pendulum before.

[A]

We didn't hear it yet. So. Okay, just think on it. Then you're gonna say, okay, ready? Here we go.

[C]

I'm already getting it. It was an immediate, resounding yes.

[A]

Me too. Immediate yes.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Yes. Darren, what was your question?

[B]

Will I be back on Broadway before 2028?

[A]

Oh, okay. That's a lot of time.

[B]

It's slow. Oh, it's a slow process. You know this.

[A]

No, no, I know that. I just mean, like, yes, I could see this happening. All right, well, Taryn, thank you so much for joining us. This was so fun.

[B]

Thank you both.

[A]

And you had more. You had more Woo woo than you thought.

[B]

A lot more.

[A]

Always a pleasure to see you. I hope I see you again on the wherever. Some fancy Broadway setting or just we gotta do it walking down the street at 1130 in front of 30 Rock, making another one of your trademark prayers.

[B]

The first two. The first two cast members to be rehired. Rachel Jackson, Taryn Killum.

[A]

There we go. We just have to go sit, walk around that building at night and it'll happen. All right, well, thank you, Terry.

[B]

Thank you both. Thank you, Rachel. Thank you, Irene.

[A]

And you can find me on Instagram at Raydratch. That's R a e Dratch. And you can find Irene at IreneBremis. That's B R E M I s Bremes. And thanks for listening. Thanks for joining me on on this journey into the world of Woo Woo. Don't forget to rate, review and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Woo Woo with Rachel Dratch is a Q code production executive Produced by David Henning and Steve Wilson Produced by Alexa Gabriel Ramirez Edited BY Will Tendee.

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