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Mindy Thomas
Hey, Wowzer, fams. Mindy here. And before we start the show, guess what? The brand new season of two what's in a People who Wow Edition begins this Friday.
Reg (Reggie)
Cue the confetti, Reg.
Mindy Thomas
In this Getting to Know youw game show, I'll be visited by some of the world's most fascinating people to get the wows and the what's of their lives. From cartoonist and graphic novelist Raina Telgemeier of the Smile series, to everyday extraordinary kids just like you. And that's not all. With this new season of two what's in a wow? There are now two ways to wow. What am I talking about? Well, first, you can listen to episodes right here in our wow. In the World podcast feed.
Reg (Reggie)
Or.
Mindy Thomas
And this is a big or. Yeah, you're right, Reg. That doesn't have the same ring to it. Okay, now where was I? Oh, yeah. As always, you can listen to new episodes in your favorite podcast player, or you can watch these episodes with your eyeballs on YouTube.
Reg (Reggie)
I know.
Mindy Thomas
I should comb my hair or something. We are so excited for you to listen and watch our new season of two once in a while, People who Wow Edition starting this Friday. So make sure you're subscribed to our podcast feed and our WowTube channel on YouTube so you don't miss out. That's two what's in a People who Wow Edition coming this Friday. But in the meantime, let's get back to the show. Hey, Grown Ups. Mindy here. And do I have a wow for you. What if I told you that the best kids math program is actually inspired by comic books and it's about monsters? It's called Beast Academy. And the little monsters, like Grog, do the kind of math that gives kids curious enough to stop and think and figure things out for themselves. For example, Krog asked his Beast Academy math club, if our school has more than 366 kids in it, is it guaranteed that two of them will have exactly the same birthday? He proved that the answer is yes. Through problem solving.
Guy Raz
Wow.
Mindy Thomas
That's Beast Academy. Where kids build problem solving skills through interesting problems and puzzles. It's from the folks at Art of Problem Solving, the same people who train math champions. Grown ups. Head to beastacademy.com and use code BEASTWOW for 10% off the online program. Oh, and tell Grog Mindy says hi.
Narrator/Advertiser
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Reg (Reggie)
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Mindy Thomas
Proceeded 3, 2, 1.
Reg (Reggie)
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Mindy Thomas
Houston,
Listener Kids
I think.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, yeah, this one.
Reg (Reggie)
Congratulations, Mindy. You're on a five day language learning streak. Yes. How about another lesson with Uno?
Mindy Thomas
Why not? Ooh, that lesson's gonna have to wait for today. Someone's at the door.
Reg (Reggie)
Ah, no. Do your lessons or Uno will get sad. What? Coming.
Guy Raz
Walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, walk.
Mindy Thomas
Opening the door.
Reg (Reggie)
Guy Razzie.
Guy Raz
Hey, Mindy.
Reg (Reggie)
Hey.
Mindy Thomas
What's going.
Guy Raz
Oh, not much. I was just wondering if you had any sugar I could borrow.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, sorry, Guy Raz. I used up all my sugar last week when I was rebaking my gingerbread laundry room.
Reg (Reggie)
Uno is waiting.
Guy Raz
Uh huh.
Mindy Thomas
Bah.
Reg (Reggie)
Meeting. I'm lined with boner.
Guy Raz
Uh, do you want to get that? Mindy, it sounds like you're getting a bunch of messages on your phone.
Reg (Reggie)
Why aren't you doing your lessons, Mindy?
Mindy Thomas
No, these aren't messages. This is a new language learning app I downloaded.
Guy Raz
Oh, you're learning another language?
Mindy Thomas
Oh, yeah. I got this buddy who lives out in Congo in Africa, and I'm trying to learn his language so I can chat with him more easily.
Guy Raz
Wow, I love that idea, Mindy.
Mindy Thomas
Yeah, I know. Ah, but the only problem is this app is, like, super pushy.
Reg (Reggie)
Does Mindy not like Uno?
Guy Raz
Oh, wait, who's Uno?
Mindy Thomas
Oh, Uno's the language learning penguin.
Guy Raz
The what?
Mindy Thomas
He's like the mascot. Sort of harasses you into learning the language.
Guy Raz
That sounds horrible.
Mindy Thomas
Horribly effective. I can already say, like, five different phrases.
Guy Raz
Oh, and which language? Lingala?
Mindy Thomas
No.
Guy Raz
French?
Mindy Thomas
Nope.
Guy Raz
Swahili? Uh, wait, so your friend is from Congo, but he doesn't speak Lingala, French or Swahili? Nope. Well, then which language are you actually learning, Mindy?
Mindy Thomas
Bonobo.
Guy Raz
Bonobo? I don't think I've heard of that one before.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, it's a beautiful language.
Guy Raz
Really? Can I hear some of it?
Mindy Thomas
Okay, well, you're putting me on the spot a little, but let's try this. This is how you say hello to someone who is far away from you in bonobo. Beautiful, isn't it?
Guy Raz
It's something.
Mindy Thomas
And this is how you say, danger. Incoming snake in bonobo.
Reg (Reggie)
Danger.
Mindy Thomas
And this is how you say, can I have some of those figs?
Guy Raz
Wait a minute. Mindy, is your friend who lives in Congo human?
Mindy Thomas
Yes, of course he is not human, Guy Raz. What kind of human talks like that?
Guy Raz
Well then what in the.
Reg (Reggie)
He's an ape.
Guy Raz
An ape?
Mindy Thomas
Yeah, an ape. Specifically, a bonobo ape.
Guy Raz
Mindy, I thought you were learning an actual language, not just some ape shrieking sounds.
Mindy Thomas
It's not just a collection of shrieks, Guy Raz. It's a true blue bonafide classified verified certified language.
Guy Raz
It is? Yeah.
Mindy Thomas
According to researchers at the University of Zurich in Switzerland, it is.
Reg (Reggie)
It's time for a lesson.
Mindy Thomas
And my language learning app. You know, I'm just gonna turn off the notifications, I think.
Guy Raz
Wait, you're saying real life scientists have discovered a new ape language?
Mindy Thomas
You know it, Guy Raz.
Guy Raz
Okay, I'm confused.
Mindy Thomas
Okay, here. I think it's best if I show you. So what do you say we just head on over to Congo and. And see how far my bonobo language skills can get me?
Guy Raz
You want to travel to sub Saharan Africa now? I don't know, Mindy.
Mindy Thomas
I mean, Guy Raz, don't you always say the best way to learn a new language is to dive in and just start speaking with the locals?
Guy Raz
Well, I guess that's true.
Reg (Reggie)
So come along.
Mindy Thomas
Maybe you'll pick up a little bonobo too, while you're at it. Well, anything for science.
Guy Raz
Okay, Anything for science, Mindy.
Mindy Thomas
Booyah. All right, let me just give Reggie a call here. Hey, Reg, what are you up to right now? Okay, well, that bird bat's gonna have to wait. Yeah, Guy Raz and I need a lift to Congo. Yeah, as in Africa? Uh huh. Okay, great.
Reg (Reggie)
See you soon.
Mindy Thomas
Reggie will be here to pick us up in a minute.
Guy Raz
So, Mindy, I don't understand. Don't almost all animals use some sort of sound to communicate with one another?
Mindy Thomas
I mean, yeah, birds use calls to attract mates. Whales use songs to navigate and find their way around. Even frogs use their ribbons to warn other frogs not to mess with them.
Guy Raz
Okay, so how come that language app of yours doesn't offer language learning courses in bird or whale or frog?
Mindy Thomas
Because there's a difference between plain old animal communication and language.
Guy Raz
You mean there's a difference between a bird song and the kind of shrieks that the bonobo makes.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, yeah.
Reg (Reggie)
Ooh, Reggie.
Mindy Thomas
That was quick.
Guy Raz
Mindy, did Reggie just smash through your living room wall?
Mindy Thomas
Well, yeah, how else was he gonna get inside? Have you seen his wingspan? Well, anywho, you ready to go, Reg? Great. All right. Come on, Guy Raz. Let's hop on Reggie. We got some bonobos to me here. I'll pull you up.
Guy Raz
All right.
Mindy Thomas
Uh, welcome to Reggie Airlines. The temperature outside is a balmy 76 degrees Fahrenheit. And this will be one non stop flight to the Congo basin taking anywhere from two minutes to 15 hours. And in case of emergency, remember to put your head between your legs and kiss your bottom goodbye.
Reg (Reggie)
Mindy. Okay, regular.
Mindy Thomas
I think we're ready.
Guy Raz
Wait, Mindy, shouldn't we take off from outside rather than from inside your living room?
Mindy Thomas
I mean, I don't see the point. We've already got a hole in the wall, I guess. Now hold on tight, cause here we go.
Reg (Reggie)
Ow.
Mindy Thomas
Oops, sorry.
Guy Raz
So, Mindy, explain to me, what is the difference between animal communication and language?
Mindy Thomas
Oh, that's a good question, Guy Raz. So why don't I answer your question with another question?
Guy Raz
Oh, okay.
Mindy Thomas
Do you want chicken or fish for your in flight meal today, Mindy? Okay, fine. The difference between simple animal communication and language is the ability to string different words together to create new meaning.
Guy Raz
What do you mean?
Mindy Thomas
Well, when an animal makes a sound, it typically means just one thing.
Guy Raz
Oh, right. Like an animal might have a warning call that means incoming leopard and then a completely different one that means incoming human.
Mindy Thomas
Exact oritos. But us humans, with our language, we're able to string words together in ways that combine their individual meanings into a whole new meaning.
Reg (Reggie)
Ha.
Guy Raz
Like if I said something like, I am a bad dancer. Well, that doesn't mean I'm saying I'm a bad person who also happens to dance instead. What I'm saying is I don't dance that well.
Reg (Reggie)
Exactly.
Mindy Thomas
Bad and dancer by themselves mean something individually, but when we put those words together, they mean something new. And scientists actually have a word for this. It's called compositionality. And it's what separates normal animal communication from language.
Guy Raz
Okay, so these scientists from the University of Zurich who have been studying these bonobos, they think that they've discovered them using compositionality. Like combining two different words to make something new.
Mindy Thomas
Yeah, and it's not the first time scientists have discovered this in apes.
Guy Raz
Really? Yeah.
Mindy Thomas
But I can't tell you about that right now.
Guy Raz
Why not?
Reg (Reggie)
Because we're here. Reggie, you can land.
Mindy Thomas
Now please prepare the cabin for landing. And you might want to hold on tight to something, Guy Raz. Looks like we're going to be landing somewhere in the dense rainforest.
Guy Raz
What does that mean?
Mindy Thomas
Just keep your mouth shut, Guy Raz. Keep the leaves out.
Reg (Reggie)
What?
Mindy Thomas
And thank you for flying with us here at Reggie Airlines, the friendliest pigeon based airline in the world.
Guy Raz
Mindy, my mouth is full of leaves.
Mindy Thomas
I told you you had to keep your mouth closed.
Guy Raz
Uh huh.
Mindy Thomas
Thanks for the ride, Reg. I'll call you when we're ready to get picked up.
Guy Raz
Mindy, is this rainforest we're standing in in the Congo?
Mindy Thomas
Bas sure is, Guy Raz. Right in the center of the whole African continent.
Guy Raz
Right, but where exactly in the Congo basin are we, huh?
Mindy Thomas
You know what, I'm not exactly sure.
Guy Raz
Well, if you don't know where we are, then how are we gonna find your bonobo friend, huh?
Mindy Thomas
Good question. Uh, oh, I know.
Guy Raz
What?
Mindy Thomas
I have his address.
Guy Raz
You have his address?
Mindy Thomas
Yeah, he texted it to me a few months ago after talking on the phone. Let me just check our chat here. Okay, that's a photo of a fig. Nope, that's a photo of another bonobo. That's a photo of a stick. He loves sticks. Oh, here we go. His address is the big green tree next to the large rock.
Guy Raz
Mindy, they're all big green trees.
Mindy Thomas
Yeah, and there are a lot of large rocks around here too, huh?
Guy Raz
Yeah.
Mindy Thomas
Okay, Guy Raz, guess we're gonna have to trust our guts on this one. And my gut is telling me it's this way.
Guy Raz
Are you sure, Mindy?
Mindy Thomas
Yes, of course. I'm not sure. Guy Raz.
Reg (Reggie)
Come on, follow me.
Guy Raz
So, Mindy, you said that this wasn't the first time that scientists have discovered an ape language.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, yeah. Here, let me show you on my guy phone here. Um, opening the app.
Reg (Reggie)
Mindy, where have you been?
Mindy Thomas
Yikes.
Reg (Reggie)
Woo.
Mindy Thomas
Uno is really upset with me for not finishing that bonobo lesson earlier. Maybe just a quick lesson, Mindy. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, Other ape languages. Okay, so if you go out into the main menu here, you can see that the language courses are divided into human languages and ape languages. So if we go into the ape languages section here, we see that they offer courses in bonobo and chimpanzee. Ooh, exact oritos. Guy Raz.
Guy Raz
They offer a language learning course in chimpanzee.
Mindy Thomas
Yeah, and it's based off of a scientific study by another scientist named Simon Townsend. And it's a really great story.
Guy Raz
Tell me more.
Reg (Reggie)
Okay,
Mindy Thomas
Once upon a time, Dr. Townsend and his team spent Years in the forests of Uganda, studying the chimpanzee in its natural habitat.
Reg (Reggie)
Dr. Townsend. Dr. Townsend.
Dr. Townsend
What is it, team?
Reg (Reggie)
Over there, sir. It's a chimpanzee.
Dr. Townsend
What? What are you waiting for? Get the tape recorder and microphone out immediately.
Guy Raz
Eh?
Dr. Townsend
Why? Why? To capture and catalog all the sounds the chimpanzees make. What do you think we're doing out here?
Reg (Reggie)
I thought we were camping and making s'.
Dr. Townsend
Mores. We're doing both.
Reg (Reggie)
Okay, let me get the microphone.
Guy Raz
Here we go.
Reg (Reggie)
And record.
Mindy Thomas
Over the course of the study, Dr. Townsend and his team recorded more than 330 hours of chimpanzee sounds as they went about their daily lives. Ooh.
Dr. Townsend
That was a new sound. Write that one down.
Reg (Reggie)
Yes, sir, Dr. Townsend, sir.
Mindy Thomas
After a while, Townsend noticed that some of these calls were joined together into pairs. Very interesting.
Guy Raz
Sort of like how we would join bad and dancer together in our language to make bad dancer.
Mindy Thomas
Exactly. Except these chimpanzees were combining calls for, hey, get over here and watch out, snake. To make something more along the lines of, hey, can you get over here and help me deal with this snake?
Listener Kids
Huh?
Mindy Thomas
And in the end, Dr. Townsend and his team of scientists were able to identify 15 individual call pairings.
Dr. Townsend
Whoa.
Guy Raz
So chimpanzees have their own language, too?
Mindy Thomas
Yeah. Well, when Dr. Townsend's findings first came out in 2023, people thought he was bonkerballs. But now that these researchers from Zurich have found bonobos doing the same thing with their calls, seems a whole lot more likely that some ape species are actually developing languages.
Guy Raz
Because both the chimpanzees and the bonobos were using compositionality, where they used two different words to make a new word with a whole new meaning.
Mindy Thomas
Exact oritos.
Reg (Reggie)
Mindy, do your lesson or una will poopoo in your sock drawer.
Guy Raz
Ugh. Gross. Whoops.
Mindy Thomas
Sorry, Guy Raz. I really need to do this lesson for today.
Reg (Reggie)
Hey. Hey, Mindy. Uno Misty. Aw. Can you say hey, I'm over here.
Guy Raz
Oh.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, I know this one.
Guy Raz
Mindy, I really don't think we have time for this right now.
Mindy Thomas
Wait, wait, wait. I know it. It's on the T of my tongue. It's Mindy.
Reg (Reggie)
Ah, that's it. It's. That is correct.
Mindy Thomas
Guy Raz, did you hear that?
Guy Raz
I heard it, Mindy. It sounded like another bonobo responding to your call.
Mindy Thomas
Okay, okay, let me try it again. Uh,
Guy Raz
that's probably your bonobo friend calling back Mindy.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, this is so exciting. All right, follow me, Guy Raz. We've got a bonobo to meet. Run, run, run, run, run, run, run.
Reg (Reggie)
Come on, this way.
Mindy Thomas
Guy Raz.
Guy Raz
I'm right behind you.
Reg (Reggie)
Mindy, look.
Mindy Thomas
Guy Raz. It's a big green tree.
Guy Raz
And there's a large rock.
Mindy Thomas
This must be my bonobo buddy's house. Guy Raz.
Reg (Reggie)
Mindy, look.
Mindy Thomas
Bonobo.
Reg (Reggie)
Hey buddy, it's me, your friend Mindy. Hi.
Guy Raz
So Mindy, you really think you're able to talk with this bonobo?
Mindy Thomas
Well, I think so, Guy Raz. I mean, I have been putting in a whole lot of practice on that language learning app.
Guy Raz
Well, why don't you give it a try?
Mindy Thomas
Okay. Okay, I'm done.
Guy Raz
Wait, what?
Mindy Thomas
Well, that's all the bonobo I know.
Guy Raz
Uh, that's all the bonobo you know. Uh huh. We came all this way for that?
Mindy Thomas
Well, yeah, I mean, the researchers from Zurich were only able to identify about four call pairings that seemed significant.
Guy Raz
So you only know how to say four things in bonobo?
Mindy Thomas
Yeah, but the researchers are hoping to add many more in the future.
Guy Raz
But for now.
Mindy Thomas
Well, for now I've exhausted all my bonobo.
Reg (Reggie)
Uh, Mindy, time for another lesson with Uno.
Mindy Thomas
Ooh, another lesson. Kairoz, you should try it.
Guy Raz
Okay, fine, I'll go.
Reg (Reggie)
Ross. Uno, let's.
Guy Raz
Oh boy.
Mindy Thomas
Okay, now in this game you have to match the bonobo's shriek with the picture that their shrieking is about.
Guy Raz
Uh huh.
Mindy Thomas
So what's tricky about this one is
Reg (Reggie)
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Reg (Reggie)
that's it. Back to the show. Wow in the.
Mindy Thomas
Hi, thanks for calling wow in the World. After the beep, get ready to record.
Listener Kids
Hi, Mindy and Guy Raz. My name is ren and I'm 8 years old. I live in Chicago, Illinois, and my wow in the world is that to successfully cook an egg on the sidewalk, the sidewalk needs to be 158 degrees Fahrenheit or 70 degrees Celsius. Isn't that funker Bomb? Say hi to Grandma G Force. Yeah, Hot dog the sleigh cast. And tell Guy Roz that me and my mom listened to his show on npr. Bye. Hi, my name is Annalise and I live in Los Angeles, California, and I am 8 years old. And my wow in the world is that a tree could grow more than one type of fruit. Say hi to Thomas Fingerling, Grandma, of course.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, goody.
Listener Kids
That is my static man. Hi, I'm Cody and hi, I'm Tommy and we are from Charlotte, North Carolina, usa. In America, a chocolate bar named Chicken Dairy used to be sold.
Listener Kid
Hi, Mindy and Guy Raz. My Name's Ava. I'm 13 years old and I'm from Bowie, Maryland. My wow in the world is that dolphins can hold their breath underwater for eight to 10 minutes. Isn't that crazy? Say hi to Grandma G Force and veggie for me.
Mindy Thomas
Oh, fine.
Listener Kid
Bye.
Listener Kids
Hi, my name is William and I'm from Peru. And warm. Well, in my world is that when I was at Peru for the summer, I went to the Amazon rainforest and know that capybaras are really good at surviving in the Amazon rainforest. And they're nocturnal. Bye. Hi, Mindy and Guy Boss. My name is Amutila and I live in Naperville, Illinois. My wow is that when a dolphin sleeps, half of its brain stays awake. Isn't that bonkerballs? Say hello to Grandma D Force.
Mindy Thomas
That's nasty.
Listener Kids
Dennis.
Reg (Reggie)
Yay.
Listener Kids
And Thomas Finger. Fingerling for me.
Dr. Townsend
Oh, where you look at all that?
Listener Kids
Thank you. Bye. Hi, my name is Benny and I am from Schoharie, New York. My wow and my world is that cat can hear ultrasonic noises. Isn't that crazy? Goodbye.
Mindy Thomas
End of messages.
Guy Raz
Before we get into the credits for today's episode, we want to give some special shout outs and say a huge thank you to some of the wowzers whose families are powering the WOW this year.
Mindy Thomas
We broke the names up into two batches and here is our first batch of names. We are so grateful for your support.
Guy Raz
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Mindy Thomas
from North Carolina Teddy, Silas and Emmett from Arizona Jason from Texas Eli and Nolan from Texas Luke and Noel from
Guy Raz
North Carolina Elan from California Emmett and Adler from Kansas John, Katie, Ethan and Amelia from Pennsylvania Nejla and Yakub from Kuwait Evelyn, Ramona and Tabitha from Nevada
Mindy Thomas
John R from Wisconsin Emory and Ila from California Caroline from Massachusetts Ian and Declan from Washington Elena and Lucia from
Guy Raz
Maryland Parker from Texas Albert and Lulu from Brighton, England Hayden, Hazel and Allie from Pennsylvania Magnus from the District of Columbia William and Allie from Virginia Brendan,
Mindy Thomas
Jessica, David and Michael from Ohio Bailey, Macy and Hank from South Carolina James from Washington Peter, Teddy and Leo from Minnesota Paul from Rhode Island Nuri from
Guy Raz
Washington Violet and Will from California Audrey and Ethan from Virginia Alex H from Tennessee, James and Madison from Utah and
Mindy Thomas
Happy birthday to Otis from Minnesota from
Guy Raz
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Mindy Thomas
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Mindy Thomas
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Guy Raz
world is written by Mindy Thomas and Tom Van Kalken with contributions from Me, Guy Raz.
Mindy Thomas
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Guy Raz
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Mindy Thomas
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Reg (Reggie)
Wow in the World was made by Tinkercast and sent to you by Wondery.
Date: April 27, 2026
Hosts: Mindy Thomas, Guy Raz, Reggie (“Reg”)
This episode takes listeners on a playful, science-filled adventure into the world of ape communication—specifically exploring whether bonobos (a close cousin of chimpanzees) have something approaching real language. Mindy Thomas introduces a new “language learning journey” based on the latest research, guiding Guy Raz (and the audience) to the rainforests of the Congo in search of true ape language and what scientists call “compositionality”—the ability to combine simple messages to make new ones.
This episode takes listeners on a delightfully silly “cartoon for the ear” journey to discover if humans are really so different from our primate cousins when it comes to language. Through Mindy’s attempts to speak “Bonobo,” new science is explained simply and playfully: certain apes, it turns out, really do seem to combine “words” the way humans do, unlocking new insights into the origins of language itself. Kids (and grown-ups) will come away laughing—and maybe practicing their own bonobo shrieks!