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Jameela Jamil
Welcome to Wrong Turns Studio.
Bob the Drag Queen
Audience goes crazy.
Jameela Jamil
This is a podcast that celebrates shame and indignity. I'm just fucking sick of all of the inspiration we're supposed to draw from all of the terrible moments in life and I feel like we're overdosing on it online and I just want somewhere where I can chill and just own my clusterfucks without it needing to have a silver fucking lining.
Bob the Drag Queen
Supervowing.
Jameela Jamil
And I wanted to bring my friends on to commiserate with me. We are anti inspiration, pro commiseration here.
May Martin
I'm so done with learning any kind of lessons. Like, I feel like I've learned a lot, and I'm like, I'm ready to just not learn any more lessons.
Jameela Jamil
Is that because you feel, like, fully formed at Wisdom?
May Martin
No, I'm just exhausted.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's nothing else I can learn.
Jameela Jamil
The voices that you are hearing right now are two people that I love so, so deeply. One is a comedian, actor, writer, producer, and recording artist. Now their new album is I'm a tv. Their latest comedy special is Feel Good, streaming on Netflix. And they are one of the hosts of the Hanson pod and their series Wayward, in which they star, wrote and produced what a Slay is on Netflix. It's May fucking Martin.
May Martin
Yay.
Bob the Drag Queen
I wish I had gone first because I feel like your. Your rundown is going to be better.
May Martin
I disagree.
Jameela Jamil
This next up is Bump the Drag Queen. Who's here? No, we have a comedian, activist, musician, author, and actor. They are RuPaul's Drag Race winner. Their new single is Queen of the Underground, and they stole the most recent season of the Traitors. And they just released their debut novel, Harriet Tubman Live in Concert, which is doing so unbelievably. One of the charts and is Bob the fucking Drag Queen.
May Martin
Come on.
Bob the Drag Queen
I will add it is a New York Times bestseller.
May Martin
Oh, my. Yes, it is.
Bob the Drag Queen
I will add that. Which is a novel, a hardcover novel, which is a really hard list to get on. I mean, the Skin of My Teeth, that was number 15. Thank God. You know, New York Times bestseller is top 15. It's not top 10.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, thank God.
Bob the Drag Queen
But I'm still gonna take that.
May Martin
Wait, it's a fiction.
Jameela Jamil
That's 100%. I'd take that and run with it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I am taking it. I framed it and put it up on my wall.
May Martin
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
So tell me, when it comes to life, do you feel as though I already know the answer to this, May. But, like, do you feel as though disaster is drawn unto you?
May Martin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I've magnetized it in a way. Well, I mean, I. I'm highly functioning.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
May Martin
But there's, like, an underwell. Yeah, yeah. Like, there's. You know, it's remarkable that I'm here today.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
May Martin
That I left my house. But there's, like, an undercurrent of disaster and chaos, for sure.
Jameela Jamil
And do you love it? Do you love it?
May Martin
I think I love it. I think I might love it secretly. I don't know. Yeah. But you Live in. Curb your enthusiasm. That's your kind of.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, I live in a. Just a complete tapestry of constant micro and macro humiliations.
Bob the Drag Queen
I love high funking. I've only ever heard that used for like autism and alcoholism.
May Martin
I'm sure it applies for both of those as well.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah,
Bob the Drag Queen
like I'm a high functioning alcoholic.
Jameela Jamil
What about you, Bob?
Bob the Drag Queen
You know, I. The truth is I don't embarrass easily.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah. What does it take?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I would say maybe exposing my body because I typically dress relatively modestly. I don't want me to do. Although I have decided this summer will be my skank tank. Summer?
May Martin
What's a skank tank?
Bob the Drag Queen
A skank tank is like those like thread, like spaghetti strap. Yeah. Basically the men's spaghetti strap.
May Martin
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
I've decided this summer will be my skank tank. Somewhere I'm gonna have the titties out.
May Martin
Honey, you're showing a bit of knee
Bob the Drag Queen
here and the Internet's going crazy and may. Cannot control themselves. I know, but yeah, I've never been pantsed. I think that would feel really humiliating.
Jameela Jamil
Right, right, right.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I think that maybe if like. Cause sometimes I wear a wig even out of drag. When I'm wearing a wig out of drag, sometimes I have this constant fear that someone's going to come and snatch my wig off my head.
May Martin
Do you have things like from childhood that haunt you? Like when you're falling asleep at night, do you go like. I'm not saying I do, but yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
When I was in preschool, so I might have been old, I remember going to the bathroom and I fell asleep on the toilet. So I was really showing you like
May Martin
an old drunk
Jameela Jamil
mini little Elvis.
May Martin
Yes.
Bob the Drag Queen
I must have been there for a hot minute. But I remember, I just remember going to the bathroom. Then I remember waking up and the entire class was at the door.
May Martin
Oh my God.
Jameela Jamil
Is the door open?
Bob the Drag Queen
The door's open, the teacher's in the front of the door and the whole class is like looking in.
Jameela Jamil
Now we know where the exposing myself thing is.
May Martin
Maybe that's what it is.
Jameela Jamil
Yes.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
My pants are around my ankle and feet swinging.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
May Martin
Oh, so little feet swinging.
Jameela Jamil
A friend of mine was at school and she developed pubes at 8, which is super young. And she told one of her friends and her friend obviously went and then told the pubes at nine school. Wow. Okay. So she. The whole school found out about her pubes and rather than become a victim of this, which would be very, very easy in a primary school, she turned it into A business. And started charging one pound, which is a lot of money back then, for each child to come into the bathroom stalls with her and see her pubes.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
She is now CEO.
Jameela Jamil
Yes. She said she can't wait to do so well in business that one day she can go back to that stall and be like. And this is where I started my first business.
Bob the Drag Queen
Only fans. Right there. You start charging only her fans. Look at her pubes. So I was at school and this guy started making fun of me for being gay and dark skinned and having. I had this big, big afro at the time.
May Martin
And how old are you?
Bob the Drag Queen
Sorry, seventh grade. So what is that?
May Martin
Yeah, 13 or something?
Bob the Drag Queen
12. Yeah, 12. Yeah, and then. But I have always been very quick witted and very good at making fun of people.
May Martin
When did that change? Just kidding.
Bob the Drag Queen
It actually has that little. You monster. Guys, this has been so fun. Thank you all for having me. Do you guys validate parking? I'm kidding you.
May Martin
I do a podcast with Tig Notaro and it's like, rubbed off on me. She's so dry and mean to me that I hurt people.
Bob the Drag Queen
Hurt people. So anyway, so then he was making fun of me, and then I was like, okay, well, now I have to lay into this guy. And then I was like, what am I gonna. And I saw him, I'm like doing the scan, you know, collecting data on him, and he has this giant pimple on his forehead.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, fuck, it's huge.
Bob the Drag Queen
This pimple is massive. So I'm going, I'm ripping on this pimple. I mean, I am ripping. I'm letting this guy have it. The class is screaming. I. I'm telling all these jokes about the pimple, how the pimple charges him rent, how the pimple has his own area code. Then I turn some yo mama so fat jokes into your pimple so fat jokes. I said. I remember saying, like, your pimple's so big, you walked in front of my tv. I missed a whole episode of Rugrats. Like, I was going on and on, and then he kind of got quiet and I was like, yeah, that's right. Shut the fuck up, bitch. I gathered you was your big ass ugly fucking pimple in your fucking forehead. Oh, no.
May Martin
I'm scared.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then next year, he was in a wheelchair. No, because it wasn't a pimple.
May Martin
It was a brain tumor.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was a brain tumor.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
And the year after that, he died.
May Martin
Oh, my.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's dead. Fully dead to this day. Dead as hell. Dead as they come.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, my God.
May Martin
As fuck.
Bob the Drag Queen
Dead as fuck.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
And I'm not laughing. You all are so.
May Martin
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
What was I supposed to do in there? Situation?
Jameela Jamil
You did the only thing you. That is not fault. It was a game of survival.
Bob the Drag Queen
It was. And I survived.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
Jesus. Fuck me Christ. Okay.
May Martin
Oh, my God. May give me, by the way, really quickly. I've like been on stage and ripped on someone for not watching me and they had turned out to be visually impaired. Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Wow.
May Martin
But I was like, what? Why did you even come if you're just gonna, like. You're not even. Why aren't you looking at me like. I was maybe 20 and I was.
Jameela Jamil
Have you heard about what happened with Robbie Williams where Robbie was on stage at an arena and there's like a whole section. Like everyone else is dancing. There's a whole section that aren't dancing and aren't up on their feet at all. And he just starts like. He's like, why aren't you dancing? Why did you even come here? And starts booing them and then gets the entire arena to.
Bob the Drag Queen
He's the monkey.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like a monkey. Huge boy. He's a huge boy band member who went solo and he's a national.
Bob the Drag Queen
Brits cannot believe that Americans don't know this man.
Jameela Jamil
He gets the entire stadium to boo them and then his manager's on the side of stage going, no, no, don't do it. Oh, my God. It turns out it's the disabled section.
May Martin
Of course.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah. Pretty mad. And then he just launches straight into singing angels because he doesn't know.
May Martin
What else can you do?
Jameela Jamil
May you have a micro humiliation story?
May Martin
I do, yeah. I had a really big crush on someone one time. Let's. We need to. Can we give them a fit one time? My whole life is having a crush on someone. Yeah. I came out of the womb and like, had a crush on. Yeah, exactly. Can we give them a fake name for the purposes of the story? What's a good name? Dave. Okay.
Jameela Jamil
No, like David.
Bob the Drag Queen
So that is a hideous name. I had a crush on Sargent Davina's
May Martin
listening crush on this person. And I was sort of working with them and then they, they, they came over and we were doing like YouTube DJ. Like we were just watching funny YouTube videos and then they went to type something in my YouTube and I suddenly, I kind of flinched because I was like, oh, what about my search history? And let's say it's the last name is Davina McCall.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
May Martin
Okay, so. So the search history, as she clicked on the thing, was Davina McCall. Davina McCall boyfriend. Davina McCall bloopers. Davina McCall singing. Like, it was so specific and detailed. And then we both kind of pretended it hadn't happened. And. Yeah, that. That is. We still have never spoken about.
Bob the Drag Queen
You'd rather it just be porn?
May Martin
Yeah. Oh, I'd rather it be twisted.
Bob the Drag Queen
Rather just be, like, Mae Martin getting fisted.
May Martin
Yes.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Davina Nicole's bathroom.
Jameela Jamil
Davina McCall bloopers.
Bob the Drag Queen
Davina McCall's home address. Davina McCall's best friends.
May Martin
Loopers is bizarre. And. And boyfriend.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you're still friends.
May Martin
Yeah, we're friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jameela Jamil
Just an awkward moment. Just a little awkward moment.
Bob the Drag Queen
Friends. Do you have crushes? Have you had crushes on at all?
May Martin
Them and. And still do. Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
I had a crush on May. We missed the boat.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
We missed the boat. Crazy. We told each other way too late.
May Martin
Way too late.
Jameela Jamil
I know. And now we're family.
May Martin
Exactly.
Jameela Jamil
Now it's insane.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's all fam.
Jameela Jamil
Fam.
Bob the Drag Queen
That was. I almost got left hanging. That was almost.
Jameela Jamil
I didn't know what was happening. It was such a long time.
Bob the Drag Queen
You saw what was going on.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
May Martin
But also, you saw what was going
Bob the Drag Queen
on and you recognized it.
Jameela Jamil
And then we felt a tumbleweed.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was like. I was like, I think I'm about to tell you guys my micro embarrassment story. The time I tried to dap up Mae Martin on a podcast and they left me hanging. So obviously I say it's gonna be quite blue here. But my biggest embarrassment of my life actually was this is what I'm here for.
May Martin
This is crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I have a very, very, very tiny bladder. I do. You're probably gonna get a lot of piss on this podcast. A lot of piss and poop. Piss and poop is very embarrassing.
Jameela Jamil
No, actually, currently the Piss champions.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah, May caught that one.
Mary from Two Judgy Girls
Well.
May Martin
Cause you turned and looked at me. The last one was like this.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I thought it was. I thought it was. I thought it'd be cool. And I thought you would clock it immediately.
Jameela Jamil
Welcome to White people.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Bob the Drag Queen
Canadian at that. No. So I was on this tour called the Haters Roast. The Haters Roast was basically a roast tour, but instead of roasting one person, everyone just roasts everyone. And I was closing the show. I'm hilarious. So I'm obviously closing. Closing the show. And as soon as they, like. I always have to pee. I have to pee right Now I constantly have to pee. I pee on a light day nine times a day. On a heavy day, it can be 25 to 30 times a day.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, my gosh. Like a heavily pregnant woman constantly pissing. Do you wear a nappy or anything?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, I'm just running to the bathroom all the time. In fact, I went to the doctor, and the doctor was like, your estrogen levels are that of a very estrogenized cisgender woman.
Jameela Jamil
Okay.
May Martin
Seriously?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes. I had to take some estrogen blockers. I was an estrogen blockers for quite some time because I. I'm very cunt. Yeah, naturally. This shouldn't shock any of you, considering how gorgeous I am in drag.
Jameela Jamil
I'm not surprised at all, to be honest.
Bob the Drag Queen
I mean, I don't know why you were so shocked. I'm so stunning in drag. So I'm on stage and I'm closing out the show. The moment they announced my name at the top. At the top, Top of the show, I was like, fuck, I have to pee. I have to pee. And a roast is not like a regular comedy show. At a regular comedy show, everyone, you. You go up one at a time. Yeah, but the roast. The point is, everyone has to be up there to see themselves getting roast. The humor is. May Martin's so Canadian that they bleed maple syrup. Whatever. That's not great. But. And then you get to see me be like, ah, come on. You know what I mean? That's the point of it. So I'm up there the whole time getting ribbed on, and the jokes are quite funny, so it's activating it more. And I don't. I don't understand biology. I'm not a doctor, but when you stand up, the human anatomy, when you stand up, something changes. In pissing, having to piss, I feel the earth move under my feet. I. As I stand up, it's like, oh, shit, it's go time for pissing. And also, there's something about the closer you get to the toilet, the more you have to pee. I can't explain that you have been holding it for one day or one minute. Once you're at the toilet, you can't hold it. So I know I'm getting closer to getting to the toilet. I stand up and I'm like, oh, shit, I'm not gonna. I'm thinking myself. I'm not gonna make it. I'm not gonna make it. And it's my turn to go do comedy now. So I get up and I'm like, doing my comedy, and then I Was like, I remember thinking, I have to leave the stage and come back and finish my set. But I'm in drag. I mean, I'm wearing a corset. Hip hop. Like, It'll take me 10 minutes to leave, get undressed, pee, get redressed and come back. So I'm gonna power through. And then I decide to myself, well, what I'll do is I'll just. I'll sit down. So I try to lean on the table and I'm like, this is. It's not working. I actually have a really good idea. I'm actually going to just let out a little bit of pee.
Jameela Jamil
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, where were you when I needed you, Jamila Javel? Because that's, you know, pee doesn't work that way. I would say piss is like a frat boy.
Jameela Jamil
If you're.
Bob the Drag Queen
If you let a little cut, they're all joining.
Jameela Jamil
You're treating it like a fart, right? So you let a little release out, and then it's, you know, it. It. It creates some less pressure.
Bob the Drag Queen
Desperate, Jamila. I was desperate. So I was like, I'm gonna let a little bit, but does not work that way. So I. Oh, my God.
May Martin
Where did you think the little bit was gonna go?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, I'm wearing a gown.
May Martin
Okay? You're wearing it.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm thinking it'll get soaked up into my. Into my clothes and my garment. Like, it'll just get soaked in my tights, my hip pads. Yeah, it'll just. It'll all. It's just a little. It's just a little. You know what I mean? I've spilled drink on myself and had it not hit the floor. So I'm. So then I'm like, I decided to let out a little bit of pee, and I am now just fully pissing myself on stage. I'm also in my hometown.
Jameela Jamil
Are you still speaking? While I'm still speaking, how are you able to do that? Because normally when people pee, like, everything freezes for a second. You know how, like, you'll be.
Bob the Drag Queen
Except your butthole. You always do that, little fart.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, but you know when someone's peeing in the sea? Cause they'll be like, I know, I know.
May Martin
That's so true.
Jameela Jamil
How are you able to. It's the same one that, like, they'll make on set when they've got an ear set. They'll be like, no, I know. No, no, that's great. We're gonna get you your sandwich.
May Martin
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jameela Jamil
I'm multitasking while pissing is Crazy.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is from years of training, from singing songs while peeing at the toilet.
Jameela Jamil
This is like Beyonce singing on a treadmill. Exactly.
May Martin
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I'm doing my jokes. But I will say that as I am telling my jokes, the weight of the world is. I lifted off my bladder. I feel free as a bird with its hell in the breeze. I am now. I can do anything now. So I think this may have been the funniest I've ever been in my life. I was ripping and roaring. I was eating. I was. The children.
Jameela Jamil
Did the water hit the ground?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, baby. So I'm wearing this gown. It's a beaded gown at the time. It is the most expensive gown I own at the time. And it's heavy. So I've trapped it all. I'm standing in a little reservoir, a little piss water tower that I created myself.
May Martin
Trapped in the.
Bob the Drag Queen
And it's all trapped within the gown. And I'm just doing my bits and I'm hilarious. And then I said, thank you, goodnight. And they're all like, woo. They were like. They were like, my God. And then I realized I have built myself a trap. I can't go. I cannot even move from this spot. I can't move from the spot. So then I look to this queen named Alaska and I just panicked. And I said, girl, I peed.
May Martin
Oh, my.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then she looked at me and she goes, yeah, girl, you peed. And I was like, no, bitch, I'm not making. Making that new lingo, bitch. I was like, no, girl. And then I looked over at this queen named Latrice Royale and I said, girl, I peed. And then she goes, what? And I point it down at the ground. I was a little bit tricking out the back of my dress. And she goes, girl. So then I am like, up here panicking. And then the host of the show is a queen named Ginger Minj. So I was like, you know what? I was the last one. I'm just gonna stay at the podium. And then they'll just say, thank you, goodnight. They'll close the curtain. And at least now only my sisters will know what I've done. Only they will know what's happened to me. And then. But Ginger Minj keeps me like, come on, girl, have a seat. We gonna close out the show. And I was like, no, no, no. I can be like, no, let's just. I just keep clapping. And Ginger Minj is insisting. She's like, come on, girl, sit down. Like, she's not picking up what I'm putting down. At all. And then I realized there are no curtains. There's no curtains, so you're gonna have
May Martin
to stand there until the whole audience bumps.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I decide to turn around and bail. I'm like, I'm going to bail. And I'm. And I turn around, and I just kind of shuffle out. And then I am dragging.
Jameela Jamil
Are you just splish splashing as you're shuffling out?
Bob the Drag Queen
There's a trail. I'm dragging this. Oh, my trail all the way back to the dressing room. And then the promoters filmed the trail.
Jameela Jamil
No, no.
May Martin
What?
Bob the Drag Queen
All my DNA on the ground
Dani Pellegrino
up
Bob the Drag Queen
to the bathroom door and post it on the Internet. No, it's probably still up on the Murray and Peter Presents Instagram page. If you scroll back far enough, I bet a dollar is still there.
May Martin
And were they posting it, like, to drag you?
Bob the Drag Queen
Well, they were like, oh, it's the haters roast. It's crazy. Look at all the madness that happens. Come out and see what's gonna happen in the next town, you know?
Jameela Jamil
What did you just tell people you squirted? That's the only way out of that.
Bob the Drag Queen
I came clean.
Jameela Jamil
I was like, I squirted.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my estrogen levels are so high.
May Martin
Yeah, I need to see the video. That's insane.
Jameela Jamil
Fucking mad. And happening in front of a crowd as well.
May Martin
And like, that.
Bob the Drag Queen
You would in my hometown.
Jameela Jamil
In your hometown during a roast, where the whole point is to ridicule you.
Bob the Drag Queen
Yes.
Jameela Jamil
One of the only things that happens to me on a bodily level in front of, like, loads of people, like, an audience, was when I was DJing at this young farmer's ball, where it's just farmers.
Bob the Drag Queen
How young you got to be to be a young farmer?
Jameela Jamil
I think like, 16 plus.
May Martin
Wow.
Jameela Jamil
16 to 24, I think, is roughly it. So we have these young farmers balls, and you can drink and, like, whatever. So maybe it's 18 to 24, but they're. It's. It's like New Year's Eve every time they party, like no one you've ever seen. It's the most fun vibe of all time. And so I'm DJing, and it's 6,000 people, and they have decided to put the decks on the speakers, which is a lot. I used to DJ a lot. Yeah. That's what I was doing when May and I first met. Yeah. I DJ'd for, like, eight, nine years. So I. So I'm DJing. They've put the decks on the speakers, these giant speakers big enough to play out to 6,000 people. I was like, this is Fucking insane. Like, how is this going to work? Or my vinyl is going to skip. Like, everything's going to go wrong.
Bob the Drag Queen
Vinyls? Yeah, honey.
Jameela Jamil
After this, I never did vinyls again. So I. So I get on the speakers and the speakers are vibrating so heavily that everything's shaking, everything's moving and I'm already. I'm a woman. I'm a radio presenter. Like, people already think I don't know how to dj, so if anything fucks up, they're going to think it's because of me. So I'm concentrating so hard on making sure everything goes well and I'm trying to, like, add some digital stuff so that they're not going to be skipping all the time. And then within about two minutes, because I'm a very, very sensitive person clitorally, I. Oh, my God. I start feeling an orgasm coming and I'm like, I. I cannot, I can't.
May Martin
I've never told you this story.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, because it's vibrating so intensely and all the bass and I'm like, I think I'm. Oh, my God. I think I'm going to come.
May Martin
Oh, I think I'm going to come
Jameela Jamil
in front of 6,000 people. And I like, I've never experienced this before. So I'm just like, my hands are shaking and the song is getting bassier and bassier.
Bob the Drag Queen
What song was it?
Dani Pellegrino
I got it.
Jameela Jamil
It was like Dizzy Rascal, you know, it was just like something. Some people think I'm bonkers.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's just like, I wish it was angel by that. By the Monkey.
Jameela Jamil
No, I would have been fine if it had been that song. So I just stop coming in front of everyone and I'm.
Bob the Drag Queen
How long does this last time you.
Jameela Jamil
Well, the orgasm is about 30 seconds, 40 seconds. Because it's going on and I'm like. So everyone thinks I'm having an asthma attack on the stage. And I'm like, yes, it's asthma.
Bob the Drag Queen
You're like, just giving the albuterol.
Jameela Jamil
Just there, just go. And the song is about to change and I'm like, I've got to stop coming soon. And so the orgasm passes and I change. And then once you start orgasming, you can't fucking stop. That's the beauty. And the curse of being a woman is that it's multiples, right? So it's just like another song comes on. And I used to. I used to DJ explicitly, like hip hop and R and B. So it was all bass, everything. I came like 20 times.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is crazy.
Jameela Jamil
20 times. It was, it was. Have I Ever told you this story.
Bob the Drag Queen
This is none of my business, but Mini Purple, is this standard for you when you're having sex to come that many times?
Mary from Two Judgy Girls
No.
Jameela Jamil
Not 20 times? No. My God, no. James has got a job.
Bob the Drag Queen
But you can. But you kept drop. You were the one who kept dropping the bass.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, but I'm like, you didn't have
Bob the Drag Queen
to drop the beat every time.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, I can't use a vibrator, like a very, very strong vibrator. Otherwise I get in there
Bob the Drag Queen
and stand near a fucking.
Jameela Jamil
I don't even have an electric toothbrush.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can't stand near Melissa without fucking calming.
Jameela Jamil
So I, Yeah, I just keep coming and coming and coming and I'm getting weaker and weaker and I'm finding it harder and harder to stand. And I read this story about this woman who came like 24 times, which is not many more times than I'd just come in front of 6,000 people. And she died surrounded by her sex toys because she had heart failure. And so I was like, oh my God, I'm going to die coming like in front of 6,000 farmers. So I'm so. So I eventually, at the very end of the set, the adrenaline keeps me going to keep going. And I liter faint at the end of the song.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
And they think it's still the asthma, right? So they think you're like on drugs. But I'm still kind of breathing. My tour manager picks up Winnie, I think, like picks me up, carries me to the car. I'm completely out. He cannot wake me up. When we arrive back at my house, it's like a five hour drive. So he just sits there and lets me sleep because I'm in some sort of like weird come comb a comer. And so I'm there unconscious and I can't pee for like 24 hours because it's numb.
Bob the Drag Queen
And then he starts hitting speed bumps. You're like, not again.
Jameela Jamil
But yeah, that was one of the most. And I don't think I've ever talked about it publicly, I don't think, because I had to bury it so deep in my mind. And some people I think could tell
May Martin
there's going to be farmers who listen to this and are like, okay, that checks out. They're going back to their videos or
Bob the Drag Queen
even like, I knew it. That's wild. You better work. That's crazy.
Jameela Jamil
Anyway, I feel like I've overshared unpredictably, Bob. I think it's very iconic the way that you just carried on through that set. I think that's one of the coolest, boldest things I've ever heard in my life. That's cool.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm super professional.
Jameela Jamil
I think it's time for everyone to have a little break.
May Martin
Should we have a pee break?
Jameela Jamil
I could pee.
May Martin
Yeah, I could pee. Oh God. Thank you so much.
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Jameela Jamil
Well, welcome back everyone. You're getting a very relaxed version of us because we all, we all peed during the the break.
May Martin
It fel like a bold suggestion.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
May Martin
When I said it and then it was so the right thing.
Jameela Jamil
Okay, May, now that we're back.
May Martin
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
What's your big wrong turn?
May Martin
This took place. I take you now to 2011. It was maybe the year before we met in Edinburgh at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. And maybe it was 2010 and I was a little like skinny jeans, like still like cutting my own hair a lot over plucking my eyebrows.
Jameela Jamil
It was a big Justin Bieber phase.
May Martin
Very Bieber vibe. Like. Yeah. And I was really nervous to be at the Fringe. I didn't know many people.
Jameela Jamil
They would refer to themselves as like a small kernel of sweet corn.
May Martin
Yeah. I really identified that way mainly.
Mary from Two Judgy Girls
Yeah.
May Martin
And so I wanted to make friends at the festival and I saw that Margaret Cho was playing at the festival. I'm a huge fan. And also, like we said, I'm made of crushes. Like, I think I had a big crush on Margaret Cho. Grow.
Dani Pellegrino
Growing up.
Bob the Drag Queen
I'm gonna be very hurt if you don't at some point develop a crush.
May Martin
Oh, it's happened. It seems like it hasn't happened.
Bob the Drag Queen
Everyone's getting crushed.
Jameela Jamil
I've had a crush on you since you first came on one of my podcasts.
May Martin
You think it didn't happen when we high fived? You're kidding. You're kidding yourself.
Jameela Jamil
That told me everything I needed to know about the sexual chemistry.
May Martin
The only thing that, that nothing makes me have a crush on someone more than someone making fun of me. So that which is so toxic, like someone being cruel but, yeah, you're bricked
Bob the Drag Queen
up for taking a taro every.
May Martin
Yeah, exactly. Anyway, so I got a ticket to go see Margaret show, and I went with my friend, and I was so excited to see her. And afterwards, I was like, I'm just gonna linger by the door, and then maybe when she comes out, I'll say, hey, you know, we're both North American or something.
Bob the Drag Queen
North American is crazy to me.
May Martin
Cause that's not a thing.
Bob the Drag Queen
We don't. I wanna be clear. We don't say that.
Jameela Jamil
No.
Bob the Drag Queen
I have never met a Mexican or a Canadian. Be like, we're both North American.
May Martin
Do you call that.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
May Martin
A continent.
Jameela Jamil
But is it. Is it kind of because you're abroad, right? So no one else North American. Everyone's Scottish and English. So you're trying to be like, it's the two of us, you know, alone together.
May Martin
How was my hope? So the show ends and.
Jameela Jamil
But wait, did. Did that stop her in her tracks?
Bob the Drag Queen
I thought, we're both comedians.
May Martin
Yeah, that's what I should have got. No, she. I think we. We vaguely, like, knew who each other were. And so she was with a big group of people, and we all start chatting, and I'm like, oh, my God, I've infiltrated the crew. And then. I hope she doesn't listen to this. It'll sound so creepy. But then she mentioned that she was gonna go and see a drag show that night called Briefs. I want to say, is that, like, Australian? Yeah, yeah, like famous Australian drag show that was in Edinburgh at the Fringe. And so I was like, yeah, I'll come. And I was so excited. I got all dressed up that night, plucked my eyebrows till they were. It was just like someone had taken a stapler and, like, stapled my face. And. Okay, so I go to the show, and it's just like a cool. It's like one in the morning that. It starts at the Fringe. And as you're going into the show and I'm kind of trailing along with this group, you have to write down your name and put it in a bowl for some kind of raffle. And as I'm writing my name, I'm like, it's gonna be me. Like, it's gonna be me.
Bob the Drag Queen
It's gonna be me.
May Martin
Yeah. I'm like, I just know that. You know what? You just know. I'm like, I'm gon the one chosen.
Sarah from Olive and June
Yeah.
May Martin
And I put it in. And I am quite introverted. And I was like, I hope they don't pick me. And of course, like, the show ends it's the final finale. They. They pick my name.
Jameela Jamil
And have you had this feeling of anxiety the whole time?
May Martin
At some point I'm gonna get whatever this is. It's gonna. It's gonna be me. And so they pull my. They say my name and everyone in the group is like, oh. And so I go up and. And whenever I'm called on stage for something, like an audience interaction thing, I think I'm just like, I want the performers to, To. To like me. And I want to. I want to do whatever is needed of me and not try to take up attention. You know what I mean? Like, I want to be the perfect audience member. And I'm like this.
Jameela Jamil
With Ubers, like, I practically would suck anyone off to get that five star review. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
So I would do it just for the peppermints.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
Bob the Drag Queen
Use the charger.
May Martin
So I go up and they sit me in this chair. And also these are like gorgeous, confident people. Like, there's this guy in a Speedo, like, all oiled up and ripped six pack. And I'm like this little worm creature, like, so uncomfortable in my body. Like, don't know who I am or what my vibe is. And. And I get a lap dance from this like, sexy, confident person.
Bob the Drag Queen
Six foot two Realtor.
May Martin
Six foot two Realtor. And then they give me a. A metal spatula and they say, and this was the prize was to win like a plate of ham. It was some like, British. Yeah. And so I had this metal scotch egg and the guy bends over and I'm supposed to spank him. And he's in this gold Speedo and I don't know, I was trying to be funnier. I try to do a good job. I was trying to do a good job. And I like, wind back and go to spank him. And I guess it's turns in the air and I clip his balls through like, like, because he's bent right over and I. The edge of the spatula, I just hit him like, and he's in agony. Like, he screams and is in agony. And everyone. Someone comes and like, takes the spatula out of my hand and like.
Jameela Jamil
And as if you're gonna do it again.
May Martin
I know. And everyone, like, freezes.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, this bitch is crazy.
May Martin
And I'm like, I'm so sorry. And. And no one's really. No one's laughing. And they try to. And the person's like, that's fine. And I just see Margare kind of like, what's going on here? And then I get the plate of ham and go back to my seat. But I don't know, I just think about it all the time that I was trying to be the best audience member and, like.
Bob the Drag Queen
Have you tried to find this man?
May Martin
No, I should. What if he can't come anymore or something?
Bob the Drag Queen
I don't know her concerts. Can you show me the motion?
May Martin
I guess it was like, oh, and the music's playing and they give me the thing, and I feel like.
Jameela Jamil
And did you hit him hard?
May Martin
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
Because I imagine you'd go quite gentle. I go.
May Martin
And I'm trying to get into it, and I go like this. And it's between his legs on the end.
Bob the Drag Queen
Why do you like that?
May Martin
I don't know.
Jameela Jamil
Wait, why did you backhand like, Nadal?
May Martin
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
That's really intense.
May Martin
Well, wouldn't. So what would you do?
Bob the Drag Queen
Because I would do this.
May Martin
Yeah. That's what I should have done. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that you mention it, yeah.
Jameela Jamil
I was in the toilet at the Golden Globes. Humble brag. I was cleaning them, but I was still in them. But, yeah, so I was. I was at the Golden Globes, we were in the toilet and there were all these, like, famous actresses and me in the line. And there's just one functioning toilet for some reason, I can't remember why, but there was this one toilet available, and this woman is pissing in it. I can't remember who she was. She's peeing and then she suddenly lets out a big fart because she's peeing as fast as she can. And when you pee, when you force pee, it just releases your bum hole. So it's like, psst. But, like, loud. It's more. It was one of those, like, panic ones, those, really, like, loud ones. And it reverberates around this, like, big Golden Globes toilet. And I'm fairly certain this was years ago, but I can say damn near certain it was a drunk, Salma Hayek, who went, aw.
May Martin
Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
She definitely knew. And then the piss just.
May Martin
Just stopped, like, midstream and then was in the line. Everyone comments.
Jameela Jamil
It was like, Olivia Wild.
Bob the Drag Queen
You know who the father was?
Jameela Jamil
I can't remember. I don't think I recognized. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't think she was. I don't think she was famous. I think she was, like, more of a producer or something else. Someone whose face I did not know genuinely.
Bob the Drag Queen
Are you buying that?
Jameela Jamil
But I buy it.
May Martin
I buy it.
Jameela Jamil
But it was. No, it was genuinely someone who I didn't remember, but I just remember somehow it was like a few in front of me and just went, went whoops. And I was like there's nothing in my. And I think about that now every time I pee and every time I start force peeing I think about what happened to that woman and I imagine
Bob the Drag Queen
someone has gonna pop up.
Jameela Jamil
Whoops. I hear that sound in my head all of the time.
Bob the Drag Queen
Shout out Summer Hayek.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah,
May Martin
you have with yourself like, like to say whoops to yourself every time you fart or, or pee is funny. And I, I started doing this thing where every time I I am on my own in my house and I fart, I give like a humble smile like and it really cracks me up like if I fart I go.
Jameela Jamil
And with that we're going to a break again.
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Jameela Jamil
welcome back. Thank you both for being so hilarious. And like 900 stories have come out of all of us today that I didn't expect. We have one last one. This is from a member of our audience. We enjoy including them. It's called Misery Loves Company. And it's from Aaron. So Aaron says, I met a beautiful woman at a party recently. We were laughing, dancing, drinking, and having the best time. I thought this might be the best night of my life. The last thing I remember is doing shots with her. And I ended up with the worm from the Mezcal bottle. What does that mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, at the bottom of the tequila, there's like a worm. They put a worm in the.
May Martin
An actual worm?
Bob the Drag Queen
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
Fuck are you talking about?
May Martin
It's a real thing.
Jameela Jamil
I know what's happening.
Bob the Drag Queen
There's a certain tequila called Mezcal, and obviously all tequila comes from Mexico. And they put. There's a worm in it.
May Martin
People swallow the worm. Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand what's happening.
Jameela Jamil
This is the worst thing I've ever heard. Okay, so he's gotten to the worm at the Mezcal bottle. So that's an insane amount of alcohol. He's eaten the worm. The next thing he knows, it's the morning and this amazing woman is passed out near his pants. So then he realizes his pants are soaked. He gently wakes her so he can clean himself up, and she starts making out with him. It's then that he realizes that her hair is very wet. And that means that he must have peed on her, too.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
It's all too much shame. So he tells her he needs to go and he did the pee pants walk of shame.
May Martin
Oh, my God. So she was like lying near his
Jameela Jamil
friend, like, passed out, having given him head or something. And then he pisses his pants, pisses all over this beautiful, amazing woman's head. And it sounds like he probably.
Bob the Drag Queen
We don't know how great this Woman.
Jameela Jamil
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Bob the Drag Queen
She might have been a monster.
Jameela Jamil
No, he said she was amazing.
May Martin
Oh, she's obviously an icon. The fact that she wakes up passed out near someone's dick and immediately starts making out with. He said.
Jameela Jamil
I met a beautiful woman at a party recently. Shady little.
Bob the Drag Queen
She's amazing. Beautiful people can be shit.
May Martin
You know what I mean?
Bob the Drag Queen
No, but she sounds like a real champ. Honestly, it sounds like a match made in heaven.
Jameela Jamil
Well, I don't think they ever saw each other again after that. After what was arguably the best night of his life. I mean, how do you come back from that? You've pissed all over her head.
Bob the Drag Queen
If someone pissed. If someone peed on me and we were both drunk, I'd honestly be quite forgiving, because I have peed on people when drunk.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, that's true. That's fair. Have you ever peed?
May Martin
No.
Jameela Jamil
On someone?
May Martin
I'm so uptight. Like, I think even when I'm asleep, I'm trying to be polite, you know, I.
Bob the Drag Queen
What? If someone wanted it, it would be polite to pee on them.
May Martin
Oh, yeah. Then I'd do it. I'm open to it. Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, for sure. For sure. You're a golden shower dream.
Bob the Drag Queen
Oh, yeah. And I've never done it once.
Jameela Jamil
What a waste of a tiny bladder.
Bob the Drag Queen
If any of you. If anyone out there wants a golden shower, I could probably accommodate. I'm telling you, I.
Jameela Jamil
And I would be completely useless. It would be a parched desert.
Bob the Drag Queen
I assure you that when I leave this room, I am going directly back to the bathroom.
Jameela Jamil
I'm amazed you haven't pissed already. On the couch. These are white couches. You're both fucking hilarious. And such special people. I can't believe I have you on my podcast. I can't believe that we're friends. I just adore you so much. And I'm happy that you two have resolved your early beef from the start.
Bob the Drag Queen
That was too.
May Martin
It was too many. Yeah, it was way too much. But don't you.
Bob the Drag Queen
I was doing it as a bid.
May Martin
Looking at this tattoo.
Bob the Drag Queen
It says butch.
May Martin
I know.
Bob the Drag Queen
Butch Queen is Butch Queen.
Jameela Jamil
Tell people where they can find you and hear you and listen to you and read you.
Bob the Drag Queen
You can find me at Bob. TheDragQueen.com, you can order my book at ReadTheDragQueen.com and of course, I have my podcast, Slimming Rivalry, which comes out twice a week. You can see it on YouTube.
Jameela Jamil
Yay.
Sarah from Olive and June
Yay.
Jameela Jamil
Amazing.
May Martin
I got a podcast called Handsome, and you can go to maymartinmusic.com. i'm doing more music shows soon.
Jameela Jamil
Yay. And your album's out.
May Martin
Album's out now. Exactly.
Jameela Jamil
Album's out. I saw you promoting it as a singer now, not a comedian. I'm so fucking proud of you.
Mary from Two Judgy Girls
Thank you.
Jameela Jamil
What a right turn.
May Martin
Congratulations.
Jameela Jamil
Honestly, I'm so thrilled for you.
May Martin
Terrifying.
Jameela Jamil
Having heard your stories today, I feel very confident that there are more wrong turns ahead for both of you, given how many have burst out of museums here. So I'd love if you come back sometime. I love you both so much. I think this should be the trio.
May Martin
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, we'll do it together. All right. Love you both. Yay. Wrong Turns was created and produced by me, Jameela Jamil and Stuart Bailey. Thank you to our launch producer, Eve Bishop, our editor Shannon Joy Rogers, and consulting producer Colin Anderson. You can find full length videos of our episode episodes on YouTube. And don't forget to subscribe like review wherever you get your podcasts and tell your friends about us. Oh, and if you enjoy me, I have a substack that I write with some of my other embarrassing stories and also other thoughts and opinions and so you can find me there if you want to. But that's enough of me. I'm gonna fuck off now.
May Martin
Bye.
Bob the Drag Queen
Then I thought, what if I've scaled businesses? What if I scaled my philanthropy? What if I did as much in one year as I've done in my whole life?
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Mary from Two Judgy Girls
Hey guys, it's Mary from Two Judgy Girls. This episode is sponsored by Aerie. If you're counting down the minutes until you take your bra off when you get home, it's probably the wrong bra. Or if the straps are digging into your shoulder or you're constantly adjusting throughout the day, it's definitely time to get a better fit fit. That's why we love Aerie. Their bras are designed to be the essential, effortless first layer with soft fabrics. Great Fits in up to 59 sizes so you can find the one that's right for you. Your bra should be holding you in, not holding you back. Visit aerie.com to find the right bra for you. That's a e r-I e dot com.
Release Date: August 6, 2026
Host: Jameela Jamil
Guests: Bob The Drag Queen, Mae Martin
In this riotously candid episode, Jameela Jamil welcomes comedian and drag icon Bob the Drag Queen and stand-up & musician Mae Martin to Wrong Turns. True to its ethos—“where dignity goes to die”—the trio swap mortifying and shame-filled stories, celebrating the chaos of real life without any inspirational spin. They revel in humiliations, bodily mishaps, and “wrong turns”; from peeing onstage to accidental orgasms and crush-fueled catastrophes, nothing is too intimate or gross for the conversation. Listener stories add even more commiseration and darkly funny camaraderie.
Aaron’s Story:
This episode encapsulates the purpose of “Wrong Turns”—a gleeful, unfiltered parade of embarrassment, bodily failures, and cringe, told with warmth, wit, and zero moralization. Jameela, Bob, and Mae create a safe space for listeners to laugh at shared messes, showing genuine camaraderie in the chaos of being human. The episode is a hilarious, cathartic ride through disasters both public and private, proving that dignity is highly overrated—and best left at the door.