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Jameela Jamil
Hello and welcome to the show where dignity goes to die. Where we tell the tales that we swore we never would to make you feel better, to make you feel smug, to make you feel superior. That is the main goal of this show. It's also where we just get to have a good old gossip. And gossip is something that I enjoy, maybe too much, as we learned on the Internet this week. I'll talk about that in a minute, but I am joined by two hysterical human beings. We have a true Asian invasion between the three of us. Joining me is a comedian, actress, producer and host of Tiger man podcast. Her Hulu special what Specie Are youe? Is streaming now and tickets for her national tour can be found@jaoyangcomedy.com it's Zhaoyang fucking Summers. Hello. Yay.
Jiaoyang Summers
Hey, Wee Jamila. What's up? I am so happy I gotta hang out with you. You are such a queen.
Jameela Jamil
Same. I've wanted to meet you for so long. And I am also thrilled to welcome a hilarious comedian, writer, actress and filmmaker who won awards for her short film Patsy and will soon release Dirty Dishes, her one woman show. Help My Vagina Is Trying to Kill Me was a huge hit at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Because of course it fucking was and will soon be released as a comedy special. It's Yola Jean Liu.
Yola Jean Liu
Hi. So excited to be here.
Jameela Jamil
How are you?
Yola Jean Liu
I'm great. I think both Xiaoying and I are just maybe prepping for this winter storm that is coming.
Jameela Jamil
Is it going to hit you guys?
Jiaoyang Summers
I was going to be in Dallas for a weekend and we had to reschedule to May. I'm so happy. It's the first time in my life I have a weekend open. I'm home with my children. First time they see me closely.
Yola Jean Liu
But hopefully you'll have power.
Jiaoyang Summers
It's kind of crazy.
Jameela Jamil
How old are they? Like 15, 16. They're meeting you for the first time.
Jiaoyang Summers
I don't remember how they are, but my daughter is. I think she just turned 5. My son's birthday is in two weeks, so 5 and 7. But it'll be the first time we spend a weekend together in a long time. So I'm very excited.
Jameela Jamil
That's nice. What are you going to do together?
Yola Jean Liu
Sit in the dark?
Jameela Jamil
Yeah. I mean, yeah. This is going to be a wrong turns weekend for everybody. I don't know if it's going to hit California, but I only just heard about it. They were like, this is going to be the biggest storm in America because it's like two different weather patterns. Patterns like meeting in the middle. Right. One from the north, one coming up from the south. One's cold and dry and the other one's warm and moist. I'm sorry I said moist. And I said it for such a long time. Wet, disgusting.
Yola Jean Liu
I have no issue with that word, moist. But I know some people want to hit me if I say that word.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, yeah, yeah. In Britain it's fairly forbidden. Okay, so you guys live near each other. I guess you can be like emergency contacts after today. Now that you've met. It's lovely to you both here. I think you're both so funny. Do you feel as though you are people who embarrass easily?
Yola Jean Liu
Yeah, absolutely. I. But I feel like it happens to me all the time. I should be immune to it.
Jameela Jamil
I know.
Yola Jean Liu
Yeah. But I'm also the type of person that will literally rerun the thing that happened for like decades later and I will just like randomly think about it one night. It's like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you did that one thing like 10 years ago you said that thing to your co worker.
Jameela Jamil
And I have that. I have. I never get like shag flashbacks. You know how some people just get blessed with a like remembering when they did that thing. I don't get that at all. I just get the worst thing I've ever done or said and my reaction to it is audible. I go in the middle of the night just like, ah. And my boyfriend to this day, after 11 years, unless he's listening to this episode right now, doesn't know what that noise is because I'm too embarrassed to say. And I don't even wanna have to explain to him what memory has just resurfaced. So he thinks it's just like an involuntary neurodivergent tic, but it's not. It's a physical manifestation of shame literally bursting out of my body. And I'm like a fucking magnet to disaster and controversy even when it's not possible. I woke up yesterday to finding out that my private text messages have been released in the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni case. And they're not even really involved in the case. I said it all four months before the lawsuit even existed. And it's just me bitching to my friend who happens to be involved in the case. But we're not bitching about anything that could be useful to the case. It's just been released to shit on me. And I'm like, how am I in this? I didn't even do anything in this shit film. I don't know these people. I knew one person on the outside. We texted about it, her phone got taken, and then my messages were on there. And then they waited 18 months after all this information's come out to drop the text messages now. So now it looks like I wrote those things in context of all this information. I fucking didn't. I was just doing a regular old bitch and gossip in what I thought was a safe space. But now it looks terrible because people don't read the fucking dates that are on the messages that they're getting so mad about. So I've had quite an embarrassing day.
Yola Jean Liu
I know. I'm so sorry.
Jiaoyang Summers
You are too smart for your own good. You didn't do anything wrong. It's the Indian in you. You are way too smart. You predict everything and you didn't mean anything. It just remember there's this Indian news anchor. She pronounced President Xi Jin 11. She can't say Jingping 11. She saw Xi is 11, number 11. She's like, Jing Ping 11. And she got canceled. But she didn't mean anything evil. She was just too smart.
Jameela Jamil
I love you. God. You're the opposite of having my mother's voice in my head. You're just like hyping me up immediately.
Jiaoyang Summers
Also, girls, text messages is a riot. We don't hear anything. It's our alter ego talking. I will be arrested. I would be arrested a million times if someone see my message with other ladies.
Jameela Jamil
100% agree. 100% agree. I was just explaining it in a video. I was like, this is How I talk to my friends in private. I was like if someone has a problem with one of my friends, I have a problem with that fucking person. I am balls to the wall, 10 toes down, ride or die. I'll bury the body for you. Like I don't care what you did wrong. You did nothing wrong. You're a perfect angel. And everyone even if I think you did it, they did it and they're wrong. And I'll take them down and it's harmless. It's a victimless crime. You're just bitching and bitching away. You don't imagine the entire world is going to read it, speculate on it, ignore the dates of when it was sent and then come for you. But that's why I've been like awake and on anti anxiety pills for the last 48 hours.
Jiaoyang Summers
Whoever is judging you should release their own messages to their friends. They probably wanted to do something criminal like the people just always want to sit on a high horse. Georgia other Georgia other people show me your text messages 100 I'm still tired of those people them.
Jameela Jamil
I love you.
Yola Jean Liu
Also we've had worse text messages released that involve national security stuff so.
Jameela Jamil
You mean the FC files? Yes, but lol. Classic me. Classic me to not even be involved in a lawsuit and somehow be dragged by the hairs around my anus right into the darkness for the love of shit. My God. Anyway, Jiao Ying, how do you feel about embarrassment? Do you get embarrassed easily? I mean you have a thick skin. I wonder what you're feeling on the inside.
Jiaoyang Summers
I was a dog when I was a girl. Little girl. So everything that was embarrassing, I hate it was when I was. I feel like I only feel truly embarrassed when I was powerless. Now I just don't care. People can call me whatever, I just don't care. I just. I take my money and I smile and I don't care. But when I was little I was powerless. There's so many things that's so embarrassing. I still think about about it. I just wish like a. You're gonna grow up and have some power. You should not feel that way. But I did not know I was ugly and I had no friends and I. I just. I was. It was very sad. So I felt like embarrassment is just someone want us to feel that way. You know, you are your own world. You decide how you feel. So I think shameless is what we should do. As long as you can own your own problems, nobody can shame you.
Jameela Jamil
Dude, you need to fucking.
Jiaoyang Summers
I told him about my dois. I'm like, oh, I have two DOIs. So, like, people are like, oh, you're a drunk. I'm like, I got my father's good skin. He's drunk, but he looked 28, you.
Jameela Jamil
Know, I think you need to go on like a tour around the country as the new Tony Robbins. Do you know what I mean? And like, hype women up. I think that would be fucking amazing. You've got the resilience and resistance, the energy that we need right now. Just like, it's just, I feel like your skin is so beautiful and clear because fuck off has just been pouring out of it. And so there's no toxins left in you. You've exited all of the toxins of other people and now you're just glowing.
Jiaoyang Summers
I know. I also captured a white man. I abuse him every day. It will help when you abuse white man because you know you don't feel good.
Jameela Jamil
You say you abuse a white man?
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah. My husband is white. I had an Asian husband before this one, but my new one is white. And I love abusing him. I just, I don't know if life is good. I have to find a way to get some problem. I'll just find problems and fight with him.
Jameela Jamil
How fun.
Jiaoyang Summers
It's good.
Jameela Jamil
How fun for him.
Jiaoyang Summers
It's healthy for us. Yes. He's add, so he needs drama.
Jameela Jamil
Sounds healthy.
Jiaoyang Summers
I'm toxic. I'm bipolar, so it's perfect.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah. Yeah. You bring some much needed excitement and electricity to his life. Jiayin, would you like to give me an example of a kind of micro humiliation, maybe from when you were younger?
Jiaoyang Summers
Younger one would be. I really didn't know my mom owned a brothel until later.
Matt
What?
Yola Jean Liu
Wait, is this serious?
Jiaoyang Summers
I, I, I mean, it's so serious. She's, she bought a motel on the.
Yola Jean Liu
Highway, which is a good way to make money. Yes, yes.
Jiaoyang Summers
And then she added a salon, like a, a bath house. You know, in a Korean bathhouse, you take shower and then a massage parlor and then a nail bar and then karaoke bar, and then there's a private floor for the rich people to rest. I have never been there. My job is I do my homework in the front office because there's heater there. I'm very poor. I'm from a rural area, from China. In the winter, we don't have heaters. Poor people don't have heaters. Our house don't have heaters. So I would be lucky to walk in the snow a few hours to our motel to do homework in the front office because they as a heater and I help some accounting. Just check the cash every night. I was already 9, 8, working double shift at Nike. So I very self sufficient. But I just wanted to do my homework there. And I just know it's a hotel. And then I've never seen balloon. We don't have toys. When I was a little girl, there's no toys. You want to play something. You catch a snake, you catch a rat, you play with animals.
Jameela Jamil
And.
Jiaoyang Summers
And so one day I was walking outside and there's balloons on the floor behind the building. I was so excited.
Jameela Jamil
Balloons?
Jiaoyang Summers
No, they just took them. I started blowing them up. And there's old calm in there. There's old calm in there. They were using condoms. Yeah.
Yola Jean Liu
I realized Jamila was not getting where this was going. And I was like, I was not.
Jameela Jamil
Picking up what you were putting down.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, they used condoms.
Jameela Jamil
I was like, oh wow. Balloons by a trash can.
Jiaoyang Summers
No, they. They threw out the used condoms over the window up from upstairs to the back alley. So I picked them up, I saw them. Balloons. Yeah, I blow them up 5 or 6. There's 30 used old com in there. But they were so old. They are fermented. Become this really vital vaccine of antivirus. I have come in my system.
Jameela Jamil
It's probably really good for your microbiome. Right? Everyone's mad about the microbiome days. Yeah.
Jiaoyang Summers
I've never got sick. I brought co to America and I never got Covid. I gave it to everyone else. I never got Covid to myself. I'm sorry. I was working at my comedy club. I bought a club. I was working 10 hours a day hosting open mic. I was buying food and going to Costco to buy toilet paper.
Jameela Jamil
Just licking everything.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, licking everything. And this squirt on it. People just are like freaking. I'm like, I'm fine. So I just do everything. Someone's sick and needs a medicine. I'll go buy things for them. No mask, no gloves. I just never got sick after.
Jameela Jamil
Oh my God.
Yola Jean Liu
I feel like you could bottle that and sell it for so much money as skincare. People would absolutely pay for that.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
Gwyneth Paltrow is already writing this down.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, she needs it. She'll love it. It'll be good. I just, I'm very proud that I never got sick. But I did digest old calm.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, honey.
Yola Jean Liu
I too have digested old.
Jameela Jamil
And also because you're breathing, it's not just going into your stomach. It's like going into your lungs. So really you're protected. This Bitch is never gonna die. That is absolutely amazing. And what impact did that have on you when it came to sex?
Jiaoyang Summers
Well, I have problem with sex. Is that my mother, when I got my period, she told me, you can't touch yourself, you're gonna get uglier. So I can't touch myself. I can't use sex toys. I can only relay on real dick.
Jameela Jamil
Are you kidding me?
Jiaoyang Summers
It's so sad. Real dick is so expensive, you know? So that's why I can't really get richer because I can only have real dick and then I can't touch myself. I never came from oral sex. Finally, my husband make me come, which was very surprising with oral sex. First time in my life at age 34. But I've never. I can't play with any toy. If I touch my nipple, I feel guilty. I can see think my mom's face and feel like I'm getting uglier. I can't touch myself. I really can't. This is me grabbing.
Jameela Jamil
That is insane that she thought about that. And that is said by someone who, like, I'm sorry, like, no shade to your mum, but, like, who sounds like she just didn't come enough in her life. She's, I don't think, some miserable. Yeah, yeah. It's like, if I can't, you can't.
Yola Jean Liu
Yeah, yeah.
Jameela Jamil
If you touch yourself, you're gonna get uglier. Is I think one of the darkest things I've ever heard. Yeah. Like, wanna see Yola's face throughout this whole time.
Yola Jean Liu
Well, I thought you were saying that you just couldn't touch yourself during your period and then it was just after you got your period. And I was like, oh, my gosh, you've never.
Jiaoyang Summers
After my period.
Yola Jean Liu
Oh, my gosh.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah. She congrats me. Officially, you are a real woman. I'm like, what was that before?
Jameela Jamil
A ladyboy.
Jiaoyang Summers
Like, now I am a woman now. And then she's like, no, you are a real woman. You have responsibilities because you have good power as a woman. You can't touch yourself. You got uglier as. That's not possible. You told me it's not possible for me to get any uglier.
Yola Jean Liu
She's like, our moms should be friends is what I know. I kind of had a lot of shame with masturbation too, where I for some reason believed that I had to only masturbate under the covers because if not, then my ancestors were watch from above and shame me, which they are, by the way.
Jameela Jamil
I interviewed a psychic on my last.
Yola Jean Liu
Don't tell me that.
Jameela Jamil
And he told me a thousand percent that they're watching while we wank. But he did say that they're not aroused. But I'm like, that's exactly what I would say. If I was a ghost watching people wank, I'd be like, yeah, no, no, no. It's just science.
Yola Jean Liu
But now I feel like I have to make them arouse.
Jameela Jamil
So I'm sorry to, like, bring back your phobia, but keep that shit under the covers.
Yola Jean Liu
Well, this ruined.
Jameela Jamil
I'm so sorry. Have I taken away your al fresco wanking?
Yola Jean Liu
You have, because I felt like I was like, okay, I'm going to stop using the blanket now and be more free and open with whatever. And I'm just like, we're going to go back to the blankets.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, you're going back. Take it under. Everyone who's listening to this, take it back under. All right. No one's alone. You have no privacy. They're fucking everywhere. What about you? Do you have a micro humiliation, Yola?
Yola Jean Liu
Yes. Yes, I do. So every few months, I get these DMs from this man. I kind of know where he will ask me for nudes, like, every few months. And he's super direct about it. And because he is so direct about it, it makes me want to only, like, wear turtlenecks around him. It's like, I will never send you.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, you've got to tell my dad off. Okay? That is.
Jiaoyang Summers
He's.
Yola Jean Liu
No, no, it's absolutely fine. But the thing is, he always does it in, like, a very funny way. During the last presidential election, he said, hey, I heard showing your tits is good luck for the presidential election. And I did not show him. So I will take all the blame for what's happening right now.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, my God. What kind of a fucking patriot.
Yola Jean Liu
I know, I know. It's. It is my fault. I will shoulder the blame. Uh, but no, his recent one was he messaged me and said, hey, I really want to see your tits. I'm dying. And I somehow took that so literally. And I started having this, like, thought spiral where I was thinking, like, I mean, I know you don't have to, but are you going to feel guilty if you don't?
Jameela Jamil
Or, like, make a wish. Tit?
Yola Jean Liu
Yes, like if. Make a wish for adults sort of thing. And I was like, if you. If you could grant this, like, last thing for him, wouldn't you want to do that? So I decided to message him to get more clarification of what he was dying from. And so I asked him, I was like, okay, what is it that you're dying from? And he goes, I'm dying to see your tits. And I just like, remember being like, oh, my God, that was a nimbus. I cannot believe I misunderstood that so hard. And.
Jiaoyang Summers
You'Re so nice.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, I know. I could see, honestly, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like Zhao Ying, as she was telling that story, you were like, why are you not charging for this?
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, you should ask him to give you $100 every time he sends a message.
Yola Jean Liu
Oh, my gosh. I've never asked for money before for stuff like this.
Jiaoyang Summers
Just listening, just talking to you. Just like, just. You are disgusting me. And I need to take a hundred dollars because I had to vomit of every time I see your message for not blocking. You do that. I don't go to my DMs because I am literally just like exhausted from sleeping. But I would always advise my friend who's getting harassed to just be like, you can DM me. Just. And money.
Jameela Jamil
I mean, amazing, incredibly industrious. Well, there you go, Yoda. If he messages you again, if he's not died already from this desperation to see your tits, then you can send him a little PayPal link.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, give a PayPal. And no, if you don't pay me, I'm gonna block you.
Jameela Jamil
So 100%. I love it. I love your industrious ways. You're going all the way to the top, Jing. Let's go to a break.
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Jameela Jamil
And we're back. All right, it's time for macro humiliations. Will you go first? Tell me what's the big scarring humiliation of your life?
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, that's pretty brutal. This is. I finally can make it.
Jameela Jamil
I mean the first one was pretty fucking bad. Like I'm still getting over that one. So I can't wait to see what's coming.
Jiaoyang Summers
I came to America for college when the University of Kentucky and I don't like roommates. I realize that just because I'm poor doesn't mean that I like to be poor. I remember just in the American dorm, I was still an old virgin. And so my, my roommates, we basically share one bathroom. She would have sex in the bathroom and lock the bathroom and I have to pee. So I just told myself I'd rather get two extra jobs so I can afford to not have a roommate, to not share a bathroom. So I, I got this really cute one bedroom apartment, very Shitty, but it's cute for me. And I was okay. But after six, seven months, I cannot afford rent anymore. So I was late on rent. I felt so guilty I wrote a letter to my landlord as I am so sorry I'm late on rent. And three months later I'm still, I can't afford rent. But he's a doctor, he owns a lot of school housings on campus. He's a nice person. A lot of my friends rent off him, so he was very generous. He wasn't really. I remember just walking across the streets and trying to sneak this letter to him in his mailbox. How embarrassed I am about being poor, but at the same time I don't want to have roommate. It was so embarrassing. And I. It was three months later, finally the fourth month, I just said, listen, I know it's been four months, but guess what? I'm gonna become a big star, okay? I'm gonna become a big star. I'm going to la. I'm gonna pay your money back if it's interest, like serious interest. And then I had to get my exam for basically a regular exam for formula by OBGYN from school. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. See a gynecologist. That's also when the time I, I, I think we have a health insurance through the school, so it's University of Kentucky clinic. I think it's time, I think I was gonna get a iud. So I remember the best going there. I got in the room, the waiting. The nurse came and took everything, my vitals. And I took off my pants with my leg open. My landlord walking with his fingers. He's my obgyn.
Jameela Jamil
Oh my God. I was so terrified you'd say that.
Jiaoyang Summers
Oh my God.
Jameela Jamil
My.
Yola Jean Liu
Did he expect payment for rent for those last few months?
Jameela Jamil
Exactly. I was like, oh my God. The amount of women who've probably had to show their pussy to the landlord when their rent was. It's late.
Jiaoyang Summers
I waited his finger inside. I'm like, would you not charge me if I kegel. Oh my God, I can never get over it. It was one of the most embarrassing moment of my life. And I did pay him back the money though, with interest. But that was. I don't know what to say. I can't. My pussy's out. Look, I don't know what to say. I just can't open my leg. Like, I'll pay you back.
Jameela Jamil
Did he seem awkward as well?
Jiaoyang Summers
He knows I owe him money and he saw the letters I wrote him and he did not mention that, but his face. He tried to be professional, and he tried to be not too warm, nor too cold. It was a fine line for him to do. He was being okay, but it just didn't matter what he did. My pussy is literally out, and I don't know what to say. I feel. I don't know. What is it? I. I paid him, but I didn't.
Jameela Jamil
Pay him my pussies out. Like, that story is so exposing. Also, can I just say I'm sorry. Sorry to the men in the room. Why the do men ever, ever practice gynecology? Why are they in this? I know that they can be great. Sure. Cool. Get away from my pussy.
Jiaoyang Summers
Exactly. Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
It's a huge red flag to me.
Jiaoyang Summers
I still look for a female exactly.
Yola Jean Liu
When it says, do you have a preference? Like, absolutely, yes. Women. Not a man. Just anybody. Not a man. Like, yeah.
Jameela Jamil
Who's choosing the guy? Like, they can't relate to the literal thing. Just in the same way that I'd be a little suspicious of a woman who's like, I only want to do the prostate. Just sausage obsessed. No, thank you. No, thank you. I'm sorry. I think in that way, I feel very conservative and I feel sexist. I think we need to keep our bits. It's aligned.
Yola Jean Liu
But also, props to you jowing to still pay that money back. Because I'm kind of the same way, just out of, like, I never want and I never. Like, I don't even let men buy me drinks at the bar because I don't want to feel like I owe them conversation or anything either. And it's just like, I don't want to feel like I owe you anything. So I will pay all the money back to you immediately.
Jameela Jamil
I'm exactly the same. My boyfriend said it's really frustrating. He was like, one of the most annoying things in my life is trying to buy you anything. And it's because I just cannot have any feeling of debt. He's just bought me, like, an expensive holiday for my 40th birthday, and I don't think I've slept properly since he booked it. Just knowing that he'll spend the money. And I'm like, what am I. How am I gonna make this up to him? I was like, I don't know how much dick I could suck in a day. I'm stressing myself out. Like, I'm, like, watching videos to see if there's a new position I could learn. Like, it's all in my head. I'm all about how to work it back. Like, just Like a prostitute. I could just, like, sit back. We've been together 11 years. I could just enjoy the holiday. But I'm like, maybe I will master reverse cowgirl.
Jiaoyang Summers
I won't. I think it's the Asian mom death syndrome. Our mom makes us feel so guilty.
Jameela Jamil
Anything we get for being born, for being existing, and.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, for existing. So any nice gesture we get from someone, loved ones, we just think, okay, what is this?
Jameela Jamil
Yeah, it's this feeling of like, this must be a mistake that you were given this, so you better fucking earn it. So when they. When they realize that what they've done for you, you have to. We're all trauma bonding now.
Jiaoyang Summers
We've got to move on.
Jameela Jamil
We've got to move on. That is fucking harrowing. I could never have anyone I know seem like I won't even go to a spa with my best girlfriends. Like, that is my exact nightmare. That is very humiliating. Thank you for that amazing story. All right, Yolia, tell me, what'd you do?
Yola Jean Liu
So when I first moved to Austin, I had to, you know, find all the services and stuff, and I went to this dentist, and he was. I had a massive crush on him because he was the hottest dentist I've ever had in my life. And it's. It's awkward, I think, to have the hots for your dentist because they're, like, intimately in your mouth, and it's such.
Jameela Jamil
An unflattering, like, view of your face, and they.
Yola Jean Liu
They literally see all of your shame in your mouth and all your problems and, like, the yellow stains, and if you had a cavity, they could probably smell it, you know, sort of. Sort of thing.
Jameela Jamil
And it's actually not dissimilar from having someone look inside your. Do you know what I mean? The mouth feels. It feels like a separate mirror.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, it both ticked out TikTok.
Jameela Jamil
Yeah.
Yola Jean Liu
But, yeah, I would prefer to have my hand up a vagina, in my opinion, than my personal mouth. No, but one time I had mentioned that I didn't like the electric spinny toothbrush cleaner that they usually use to clean her teeth. And then so he offered to brush my teeth, like, by hand with a manual toothbrush and told, like, the dental assistants that he'll take care of it. And for some reason, I took it as a sign of. Oh, my gosh, I think maybe he also likes me or something. Wait, no. Okay.
Jameela Jamil
Because I kind of still the fact that he's like, I'll take care of it. Right. Because that is something that normally a nurse would do. Right. And he's like, no, no.
Yola Jean Liu
But you're saying.
Jameela Jamil
So actually, now I'm in the delusion with you. I think maybe he was interested.
Yola Jean Liu
Okay, thank you. Well, I obviously never pursued anything because he was my dentist. And I also didn't want to find another dentist.
Jameela Jamil
I guess my original OBAB was because I think most of this generation is polluted with the meme of the girl seeing that, you know, the dentists hold their fingers in a certain way that looks like half a heart, you know, when they're holding the syringe. And so he was holding the syringe, waiting for the nurse to take it off him. So his hand looks like it's a half heart. And his patient was clearly high, and so she thought he was doing half heart. So then you see her take her hand up and try and make the half heart with him, and then he backs it away. Oh, my God. It's one of my favorite things. And women always use it to talk about how they're reading too much into the sign. So that's why I said, oh, babe, I actually think you could be onto something, given that this man is doing a nurse's duty. And it's intimate. It's intimate. Like the slow, thorough, circular brushing. Yeah, it's hot.
Yola Jean Liu
Yeah, that's kind of what I thought too. But then I kind of. I tell myself, like, okay, I want to see him more, but two cleanings a year is not enough. So I asked him if I could get Invisalign, and he goes, I don't think you really need Invisalign.
Jameela Jamil
And I was like, why is Invisalign your option? Because you'd have to come in more often.
Yola Jean Liu
Yeah, like, every two weeks to see if the trace fit.
Jiaoyang Summers
It was.
Yola Jean Liu
Yeah, it's. It's cringe.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, this is such amazing dedication. That's so fucking uncomfortable as well.
Yola Jean Liu
Yeah, so. Because I didn't really need it, but I was trying to convince him, like. But I just don't really like how it's kind of like this, you know, just trying to make up some, like, a thing. And we settle on.
Jameela Jamil
Do you want to, like, stick your lower teeth out a bit more like a bulldog? Like, exaggerating it.
Yola Jean Liu
No, Absolutely. And he ends up suggesting something called Invisalign light, which is basically half the amount of time that is needed fewer trays. And it just. You didn't really need to have them as long as a normal Invisalign process was. And it was a bit of a bummer because I felt like every time I went in it wasn't these like actual longer sessions. It was. I think if anything, he maybe even resented me because he was so busy with patients and he was like just in and out and again. Yeah, exactly. And. And then he said that he was moving to San Diego and I was devastated. And a. Yeah. And during his last. My last cleaning with him, I end up giving him either like a thank you or a goodbye card or something because of course I did. And I also attached on a mini arm and hammer travel size toothpaste because the thing that we had in common is that that is our favorite toothpaste because we like the way it tastes. And I just remember like the dental assistant afterwards going, wow, even I didn't know this about him and that. And yeah, never spoke to him again.
Jiaoyang Summers
But oh my God, Yola, if I knew you, I'm gonna smack you. Just fuck him. With a laughing guest. Just fuck him. Like, why would you even write a letter? What's wrong with you? Just get him. Just fuck him. There's laughing gas. Just.
Jameela Jamil
I don't know if.
Jiaoyang Summers
Just fuck him. He's a leader.
Yola Jean Liu
I don't know if laughing gas would work for me to fuck him if I feel like it would be him maybe.
Jiaoyang Summers
No, you should tell him, hey, I think you're a heart, but you are no longer my doctor. So I mean, just make him angry. Be like, I would tell you I liked you if you were a heart surgeon, but you're a dentist, so let's just.
Jameela Jamil
That's a bit of a risky biscuits thing to neg your doctor who's gonna be able to inject you with stuff. Cause if that doesn't go down well, then she's just not going to be given anesthetic for fillings.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, but I think the day he's leaving, you know, he's going to be leaving so you can anger him. Because men are good when they are challenged. So he's like, you know what? I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you what I.
Yola Jean Liu
Need to learn from you, Jiao Ying. Because I don't know how any of this sort of stuff works.
Jameela Jamil
Zhao Ying, what do you think she should do? Do you think she should fucking get her ass. Get that pussy down to San Diego?
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, you just fuck him and find out that he's not all that and move on.
Jameela Jamil
I think that's a good idea. I'm actually with Jaeyanne. Please come back on the podcast and tell us how it went. I think this sounds like an amazing potential right Turn with huge possibilities of being a wrong turn. Huge, huge chance of rain. But I would say that it's fun for me and Jiaying and the audience if you do this. Are you single at the moment?
Jiaoyang Summers
I'm doing Valentine's Day in San Diego. The Valentine's Day weekend in San Diego. You should come.
Yola Jean Liu
Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
I thought you're going to be like, I'm going to fuck him. Yeah.
Jiaoyang Summers
No, no, no, no. I. You. You fuck him. I'm gonna invite him to the show.
Matt
Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
Please, please have a girls trip.
Jiaoyang Summers
You should do my show. I do my show. You should.
Yola Jean Liu
That was stressing me out for the next, like, from here until Valentine's Day, like, it's fine.
Jameela Jamil
It's in three weeks. Put it together, bitch.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, you can. You can do it.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, my God. This is so exciting. Imagine the first wrong turns wedding, guys. That's so exciting.
Jiaoyang Summers
Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
Only if you officiate really slowly. 100%. I will 100% officiate. I have still got my marriage license for officiating weddings and funerals, but not circumcisions. They're very clear about that, actually, on the card. And I was like, how many times did that happen before you had to put it on a laminate? Oh, and they also had to write that I'm not allowed to ride the subway for free. So that also means that card was played enough times that they had to fucking put it out there. So that was very surprising to me.
Yola Jean Liu
Wait, is it just for you or for everybody? With this card?
Jameela Jamil
It's me because of all the circumcisions I tried to do. So it was just on my personal laminate, and I was trying to ride the metro in America using my little priest card. No, it is for everyone. But, yes, I'll officiate alongside Jiayin. I feel like she would be an insane officiant.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah. I would love to work with you.
Jameela Jamil
Are you into matchmaking?
Jiaoyang Summers
I have succeeded in a few. I can just kind of see the vibe, but I can't get a man for myself.
Yola Jean Liu
How do you marry me?
Jiaoyang Summers
Oh, my gosh. I got mine to marry me. I don't know. Something's off with him. I mean, he's not normal. If he's normal, he's not gonna get trapped. But, you know, what can you do? I literally was going through a very hard time. I haven't had sex for years after my divorce because my. I have desperate energy. When you are desperate, dick, run away. And also.
Jameela Jamil
But also, you must have looked so beautiful. Because sex makes you ugly, right? So imagine you're storing up all of that beauty. Yeah.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yes. I, I even, I can't even give a sympathy because after one night stand, I just wanted to fix that guy. I'm like, we, you don't have to live here. You can live with me. I can buy you a new car. You know, you don't need to drive this. Like, let me buy you a watch. Like, I just want to fix him. When I see someone, I don't know what's wrong with me. And then my guy is, I have my friend, she's a Vietnamese girl, she's a fighter. Actually. You should have her on. Her name is killer B. She's MMA fighter, she's 411 Vietnamese girl. And I said, hey, so what's wrong with me, B? Why can't I get a dick? You always get hot guys everywhere you go. We're both Asian. She's like, well, it's a feng shui. You got wrong girl. Your Asian girls, we got silky hair, silky hair. Dick slide right off. You gotta tease it. Bad feng shui.
Yola Jean Liu
And I've never heard of this. And I've been Asian my whole shui.
Jiaoyang Summers
Oh, you want to tease it. So when you tease your hair that your hair can trap dick. That's what one another is like. Your face is just wrong. You have the desperate, desperate face. Like you're just desperate. When dick see it, they collect. If you make it feel like it is in need, it's gone. When you like don't want to dick, they can want you. So your face don't be. You don't have that face. And it's like, what? You should have your whole face. Should I get seven dick in seven days? After that, you just don't have desperation anymore. You can find.
Jameela Jamil
Okay, she needs to join the talk. She needs to join. Yeah. Tony Robbins tour. That's it. That's what's going on. Yeah, you guys are gonna fix the world.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah. She came to my tour with me and she was. She living in Houston. So she came to my Texas tour in Austin. She's like, you're gonna get a dick tonight. If you don't get a dick, I'll beat you up. So I, I saw my future. This guy, he's so gorgeous. He's. He working on my show. So I, I hired his friend. His friend brought him. I just like, I just asked him. That's a good move.
Yola Jean Liu
Hire his friends, get close.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah, but the, the other girls, the hot girls, the waiters like oh, my God. I'm gonna him. They are so hot and young and sexy. I'm like, I don't know what to do. He's like, I want to beat you up. So I was like, I'm gonna him. So the waiters laughing at me. They're like, you've been performing us here, like, four times. You always want to someone. You end up not anyone because you are a. I'm like, I'm gonna him. I'm a Chinese woman. I'm a communist. My belongs to people. I'm gonna him. And I fucked him, and I ended up dating him, and I married him now, and I'm having a baby. We're having a baby together.
Yola Jean Liu
Congratulations.
Jameela Jamil
All right, Yola, you have to go with her to San Francisco. All right?
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah. Just go there and invite him to the show, and.
Jameela Jamil
And then you have sex with him. You tease your hair, right, Yola? This flat Asian hair. You tease your hair, and you get. You catch that dick.
Yola Jean Liu
Yes.
Jameela Jamil
In your teased hair.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
That's the rule. Right? Right? Yeah.
Jiaoyang Summers
They get some big Texas hair.
Yola Jean Liu
Okay, I will absolutely do that. I won't wash my hair for weeks.
Jameela Jamil
I've never been more excited about the end of an episode ever in my life. I can't wait. I want to come with you guys. That's it. I'm gonna jump in the boot. It's happening. We're doing a wrong, wrong turned girls trip for Valentine's day.
Jiaoyang Summers
Yeah.
Jameela Jamil
We'll be right back after the break while we go and pack.
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Yola Jean Liu
Oh my God.
Jiaoyang Summers
God.
Jameela Jamil
What? Are you fucking kidding? Are you fucking kidding me? He was gonna wear them, fucking them and then return them.
Yola Jean Liu
I think this is a fetish. This has to be. This is crazy. Oh, my God.
Jameela Jamil
Imagine the first time in years that you've decided to branch out there and be like, okay, I don't hate men. I don't hate men. I don't hate men. I'm gonna go out there, I'm gonna have sex with a man. He won't even take his pants. That he knows he's going to return off to have sex. He's willing to get pussy juice all over them. And then he's mad at her for ripping. What a Prince Charming. What is happening in the world? This is. We're going extinct.
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Jameela Jamil
And that doctor. This is the last shot. This is what's out there, okay? If you don't have sex with that doctor, this is what's out there waiting for you. All right, Yola, Okay. You'll deserve it.
Yola Jean Liu
You're right. You're right. No, but that is also. I feel like most of the time, they don't even sell boxers individually like that. That must have been such expensive. So true.
Jiaoyang Summers
Like a nice, you know, maybe Valentino boxers.
Yola Jean Liu
Oh, man, that is one level of luxury.
Jiaoyang Summers
Oh, my gosh. I'm so disgusted.
Jameela Jamil
That is fucking hilarious. That is really, really foul. Oh. So Wendy ends this by saying, I am now celibate again. Oh, Wendy. Well, look, you know what? If Yola chickens out, there's a fucking hot doctor in San Diego that we've. We've got a hot tip on. He'll brush your teeth by hand.
Yola Jean Liu
Yeah. I would be so jealous if he brushed Wendy's teeth by hand and I found out.
Jameela Jamil
Oh, my God, I love it. You've already got beef with Wendy. All right. I'm so excited for our girls trip. Before you go, tell everyone where they can find you and what they should look at and watch.
Jiaoyang Summers
Guys, I'm so happy to talk to you. And I cannot wait. I had to hang out with Jamila. Yola, amazing meeting you. We are neighbors now. I am on Tour. Go to jiaoyangcomedy.com and check out my podcast Tiger Mommy and my special on Hulu Species. Are you. Thank you.
Yola Jean Liu
And people could find me@yolajeanlu.com and I have links to my short films and I will update with any other sort of shows. I have maybe one in San Diego in the future and the when whenever my. My special is done being edited, it'll be posted up there too. So thank you.
Jameela Jamil
So, so cool. I adore you both. I'm so happy to have introduced you both to each other. I'm so happy to have met you. I'm excited for our future. I think this is a diabolical trio of chaos. And good luck in this incoming storm. Please stay alive. We will.
Yola Jean Liu
Thank you.
Jiaoyang Summers
Thank you.
Jameela Jamil
Bye.
Jiaoyang Summers
Thank you. I won't die.
Jameela Jamil
Wrong Turns was created and produced by me, Jameela Jamil and Stuart Bailey. And thank you to consulting producer Colin Anderson. You can email us a voice memo of your own Wrong Turns. All you have to do is email personal disaster storiesmail.com don't forget to subscribe like review wherever you get your podcasts and tell your friends about us. And if you are also so enjoying me as a person, I have a substack. It's called a low desire to please. Bye.
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Episode: Jiaoying Summers and Yola Jean Lu
Date: January 29, 2026
This madcap episode of Wrong Turns with Jameela Jamil brings together comedians Jiaoying (also spelled Xiaoying throughout) Summers and Yola Jean Lu to swap their most humiliating, hilarious, and disastrous stories. True to the show’s motto—"where dignity goes to die"—the trio delight in personal disasters, with zero moralizing and an open invitation for listeners to relish the chaos. Expect revelations about embarrassing childhood misadventures, sex and romance mishaps, family shame, and raw, uproarious takes on what it means to be truly, spectacularly embarrassed.
"It's a physical manifestation of shame literally bursting out of my body... I’m like a fucking magnet to disaster and controversy even when it’s not possible."
— Jameela Jamil (05:27)
(Timestamp: 04:06–09:42)
"Embarrassment is just someone want us to feel that way... shameless is what we should do."
— Jiaoying Summers (09:19)
(Timestamp: 11:10–17:35)
Jiaoying’s Brothel Story:
She unwittingly grew up in a brothel/hotel her mother owned in rural China. As a child, she found used condoms (thinking they were balloons) and blew them up, inadvertently ingesting their contents. The group marvels at her apparent immunity to illness.
"I brought Covid to America and I never got Covid. I gave it to everyone else. I never got Covid to myself."
— Jiaoying Summers (13:31)
Female Sexual Shame:
Jiaoying: Her mother said touching herself would make her ugly, leading to lifelong sexual hang-ups.
Yola: Shared her own masturbation phobia, convinced ancestors “watched from above.”
"If you touch yourself, you’re gonna get uglier. Is I think one of the darkest things I’ve ever heard."
— Jameela Jamil (15:47)
"I believed I could only masturbate under the covers because if not then my ancestors were watching."
— Yola Jean Lu (16:26)
(Timestamp: 17:36–20:47)
"Just talking to you... you’re disgusting me and I need to take a hundred dollars... each time you message."
— Jiaoying Summers (19:53)
(Timestamp: 23:27–42:29)
Jiaoying’s Landlord OB/GYN Story:
At university, after months of not paying rent, Jiaoying visits the campus gynecologist—only to find her landlord is the doctor who performs her pelvic exam. Both try valiantly to act like nothing's amiss.
"He’s my OB/GYN. Oh my God."
— Jiaoying Summers (26:07)
"My pussy’s out. Look, I don’t know what to say."
— Jiaoying Summers (26:51)
Discussion on male gynecologists:
All three agree it’s uncomfortable, questioning men’s motivations for joining the field.
Yola’s Dentist Crush:
She becomes fixated on her attractive new dentist in Austin, tries to get extra cleanings (via unnecessary Invisalign), and ends up gifting him a personal favorite toothpaste and card on his last day, leaving her mortified.
"I married him now, and I’m having a baby. We’re having a baby together!"
— Jiaoying Summers offering her own happy ending (41:57)
"Tease your hair, and you get—you catch that dick in your teased hair."
— Jameela Jamil (42:19)
(Timestamp: 45:14–47:50)
"He’s willing to get pussy juice all over them. And then he’s mad at her... This is what’s out there."
— Jameela Jamil (46:34)
Jiaoying, on overcoming embarrassment:
"Now I just don’t care. People can call me whatever. I just take my money and I smile and I don’t care." (09:21)
Jiaoying explaining “catching” Covid:
"I never got Covid. I gave it to everyone else. I never got Covid to myself." (13:31)
Meta-commentary on openness:
"Everyone who’s listening to this, take it back under [the covers]. No one’s alone. You have no privacy. They’re fucking everywhere."
— Jameela Jamil (17:22)
On feminist loyalty in private texts:
"If someone has a problem with one of my friends, I have a problem with that fucking person. I am balls to the wall, ride or die. I'll bury the body for you."
— Jameela Jamil (07:15)
Jiaoying’s advice on sexually harassing DMs:
"You can DM me—just send money." (19:53)
Jameela on male gynecologists:
"Why do men ever, ever practice gynecology? Why are they in this? Get away from my pussy." (27:38)
Yola’s self-deprecating humor about dentist crush:
"But I was trying to convince him [to get Invisalign]... just to see him more." (33:44)
| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|---------------| | Opening & Guest Introductions | 01:11–02:25 | | Embarrassment & Shame Noises | 04:06–06:31 | | Jameela’s Leaked Text Drama | 05:27–07:15 | | Jiaoying’s Attitude on Shame | 08:55–10:25 | | Jiaoying’s Brothel/Condom Tale | 11:10–14:43 | | Sexual Shame / Moms’ Warnings | 14:43–16:26 | | Yola’s Ancestral Masturbation Anxiety | 16:26–17:07 | | Yola’s Nude-Hunting DMs | 17:36–20:47 | | Macro Humiliations – Jiaoying’s Landlord Doc | 23:38–27:21 | | Macro Humiliations – Yola’s Dentist Saga | 30:19–35:38 | | Listener Contributions (“Misery Loves Company”) | 45:14–47:50 | | Plugs and Closing | 48:04–49:14 |
You are not alone. If your life feels like a string of disasters, join Jameela, Jiaoying, and Yola in learning there is comedy—and unexpected kinship—in public humiliation, relentless shame, and sexual downsides. Embarrassment is universal, dignity’s overrated, and sometimes the best therapy is laughing till you cry about it all.
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