Podcast Summary: Wrong Turns with Jameela Jamil Episode: Penn Badgley, Nava Kavelin, and Sophie Ansari Date: November 13, 2025
Overview
In this laugh-out-loud, no-morals episode of Wrong Turns, Jameela Jamil invites the trio behind the Podcrushed podcast—Penn Badgley, Nava Kavelin, and Sophie Ansari—to unleash their most mortifying, embarrassing, or simply disastrous personal stories. The theme: reveling in misfortune, not extracting morals. Each guest candidly shares stories about awkward bodily functions, cringe-inducing social blunders, and near-misses that still haunt them, all with a sharp dose of humor and self-awareness.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Introductions & Setting the Tone (02:32–06:00)
- Jameela sets the ethos: “This is the podcast where dignity goes firmly to die. There is no silver lining, there’s no great lesson learned, no wisdom gained.” (02:32, Jameela)
- Playful ribbing regarding their creative accolades and supposed achievements, with Penn incredulously questioning his status as “award winning.” (03:08–03:23)
- The concept of “micro humiliations”—small, everyday embarrassments that add up over time.
2. General Attitudes Toward Embarrassment (04:45–06:30)
- Penn: Finds it difficult to share truly mortifying stories, admitting, “the things that for me are mortifying ... you’ll never hear me talk about those things anywhere.” (04:45)
- Sophie: Regularly puts her foot in her mouth, especially by strongly voicing opinions before realizing who she’s talking to. “I hate Chihuahuas ... and then someone’s like, 'I have a Chihuahua.'” (05:31)
- Nava: Routinely embarrassed but now more adept at letting things go. “I think I’ve just gotten more adept at like, oh well, this is just what happens in my life.” (05:52)
3. Micro-Humiliation Stories
A. Sophie’s “Fart Cannon” Date (07:05–11:13)
- Sophie describes a date in New York, feeling sophisticated but secretly mortified as a contained fart escapes up her coat just as her older, “chic” boyfriend puts his arm around her:
- “The fart that was previously contained within this long, puffy coat just shot up through the neck hole ... it was bad.” (10:28–10:45)
- Family legend: Sophie is infamous at home for “the worst farts, poops ... it's just like, I don't know what it is.” (08:55–09:13)
- Generalized mortification over bodily functions and their social reception—especially among women:
- Pen: “But, see, this is where we have to say properly what something like the patriarchy ... Women can have gas.” (10:11)
B. Jameela’s “Fart Coffin” on The Good Place (11:39–13:55)
- Jameela shares a similar moment while filming, accidentally creating a “fart coffin” on set that possibly ruined an emotional scene for her co-stars. “I was giving dirty looks to other members of the cast to try and gaslight—literal gaslighting—of everyone in there.” (13:39)
C. Pen’s Met Gala Gaffe with Charlotte Gainsbourg (14:06–18:58)
- Seated beside icon Charlotte Gainsbourg, Penn inadvertently insults her film Science of Sleep: “I've been watching The Science of Sleep ... I've fallen asleep every time, and it’s so beautiful.” (17:02)
- Realizing too late what he’s said, he notes: “She definitely doesn’t want to talk to me ... I wouldn’t want to talk to me either.” (16:10–17:30)
- “I literally think she may have, to this day ... not said a word to me.” (18:31, Pen)
D. Nava’s Accidental Ambien Text to Ariana Grande’s Manager (19:07–22:11)
- After mistakenly taking Ambien midday, Nava falls asleep for 17 hours. She wakes to find she has “drunk-texted” Ariana Grande’s manager, asking Ariana to guest-host their podcast while Pen is on leave—an arrangement never previously discussed and a clear overstep.
- Nava: “When I’m drunk I just do more work. But like, in a damaging way.” (21:14)
- “The saddest part of the story is that Ariana’s manager told me we were her favorite podcast ... but now they're like, you’re too comfortable with Ariana, so she will not be coming back.” (21:23)
4. The Main “Wrong Turns” — Full-On Disasters
A. Nava’s Golden Shower Airplane Horror
- Most Embarrassing Moment (26:02–32:18)
- Setting: Post-breakup, flying to North Carolina, hoping for a rom-com life twist.
- Flirts with “the hottest guy,” only for disaster to strike during turbulence in the airplane bathroom:
- "My leg kicks the door, and the door gets jammed ... and I know that what he can see is urine coming out of my vagina facing him." (29:34)
- “We both make eye contact. And then he immediately closes his eyes and puts his head down.” (29:41)
- The stranger pretends to sleep for the rest of the flight, never speaks again, and Nava is left reeling:
- “If this were medieval times and I were a sovereign, I would have him killed. Like you would have someone who witnessed you in such a vulnerable position killed." (31:16, Nava)
- Jameela and the guests agree—this is true shame in 3D.
B. Pen’s Bike-Intersection Near-Miss (32:43–42:51)
- Young, reckless Penn races his bike across a massive New York intersection, nearly colliding with a pedestrian:
- “I almost killed somebody, ... or I almost seriously hurt them.” (35:04)
- Describes his daredevil attire and faulty logic: “I would leave the house with a single credit card and key tucked into my waistband ... I just wanted to be in as few, you know ...” (33:59)
- In a moment of self-mockery, Sophie ribs him: “I think what’s more embarrassing about this story is you chat GPTing how fast you were going. I really want to see your chat GPT history so bad.” (41:56)
- The group jokes about making up a more climactic ending via AI tech.
C. Sophie’s Foot-in-Mouth at Mom Group (44:28–46:31)
- In a discussion about her daughter’s hair, Sophie jokes about picturing her bald at her wedding—then realizes a fellow mom has alopecia:
- “As it’s coming out of my mouth, I’m like, I want to shrivel into my clothing.” (45:46)
- Navigates the social dilemma: “Do I apologize? Ultimately, no ... If I say, ‘I’m so sorry,’ then I put her in [the] position where she has to say, ‘It’s okay, don’t worry about it, you freak.’” (45:51)
Bonus Embarrassments & Lightning Rounds
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Nava’s “Brain Damage Cop” Story (49:26–54:00)
- Details her ineptitude with driving and a traffic stop that became so absurd ("do you want me to blow on something?") that the officer suspected a brain injury:
- “Have you had a brain injury? ... You understand why I asked, right?” (53:14)
- Gets out of a ticket through pure confusion rather than persuasion.
- Details her ineptitude with driving and a traffic stop that became so absurd ("do you want me to blow on something?") that the officer suspected a brain injury:
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Jameela on Sober Social Fails
- Shares that her most humiliating moments are 100% her own, stone-cold sober. “The worst thing about me is that everything I’ve ever done wrong, every awful story I’ve told in this podcast, everything was 100% my fault. All me, dead sober.” (54:08)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “This is the podcast where dignity goes firmly to die.” — Jameela (02:32)
- “I put that in one bio and now everybody introduces me as that and I’m like, oh, shoot. It sounds a little pathetic.” — Sophie on “community organizer” label (03:54)
- “You have to realize Sophie’s still new to the world of celebrity ... you want to tell a good embarrassing story, but you’re also actually like, oh, I don't know.” — Pen on Sophie’s hesitation (09:30)
- “Fart on the patriarchy.” — Jameela (10:17)
- “She was wearing it like a Sophie fart.” — Pen describing Charlotte Gainsbourg’s vibe at the Met Gala (16:10)
- “If this were medieval times and I were a sovereign, I would have him killed.” — Nava (31:16)
- “You farted. I knew you killed somebody. That surely is something.” — Pen to Sophie (40:51)
- “The point of the story was to show I’m not just a pretty face. I’m also a cyclist.” — Pen, mocking macho subtext (41:31)
- “Do you want me to blow on something?” — Nava, mortifying herself during a sobriety test (52:19)
Book Promo & Closing (55:06–56:28)
- Sophie and Nava attempt to promote their book, Crush: Essays on love, loss and coming of age, teasing that it includes even more embarrassing and heartwarming stories. Penn jokes about being “done talking about our book.”
- Jameela: “Everyone go listen to the podcast. Go read the book. Find these people online. You’re a joy. And thank you for coming and sharing today. Love you.” (56:12)
Timestamps for Key Segments
| Segment | Time | |:----------------------------------------|----------:| | Podcast opens, intros | 02:32 | | Guests’ attitudes to disaster | 04:45 | | Sophie's fart date story | 07:05 | | Jameela’s “fart coffin” | 11:39 | | Pen’s Met Gala mishap | 14:06 | | Nava’s Ambien text | 19:07 | | Nava’s airplane disaster | 26:02 | | Pen’s near-miss bike story | 32:43 | | Sophie’s “wedding day bald” gaffe | 44:28 | | Nava’s “brain damage” traffic stop | 49:26 | | Closing banter/book promo | 55:06 |
Tone & Takeaway:
All stories are shared with self-deprecation, playful teasing, and a total lack of pretense. The group’s chemistry—especially their willingness to tear down each other’s claims to “embarrassment”—creates an atmosphere where shame becomes communal and, ultimately, hilarious.
For listeners: This episode is for anyone yearning to feel better about their latest cringe moment. The message, in Jameela’s words: “There’s no wisdom here. Only the freedom of knowing no one is alone in their humiliation.”
