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Marc Maron (0:02)
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How's everything going with your foot? What's going on with what? Are you going to cook for the thing? Is the car running better now? When can you go back to the gym? That seems crazy. Oh, really? You had it for, what, two weeks? Yeah, yeah, it's going around. How's everybody doing? Okay. Did I mention I'm Marc Maron. This is my podcast. Did I mention that it's called WTF? What's happening? Going strong since 2009. A new show every Monday and Thursday, and now new bonus material every Tuesday and Friday. Geez, that's a lot of yapping. Today on the show, I talked to Bobby Altoff. Yeah. I'd like to talk to you about her if I could because it's an interesting thing. Look, I'm a bit out of the game in terms of keeping up with whatever youth culture is or whatever the cultural momentum is to make us all part of youth culture, if there's even a culture that we can kind of frame as that. But Bobby Altoff is somebody who, you know, I scroll. I have a problem. I have a. I have a scrolling problem. And she pops up occasionally. She. Maybe you've seen her. She does these. She kind of does these. I don't even know if they're snarky, but she does these very intentionally awkward interviews with a lot of black entertainers. But I don't. Maybe you've seen the one of her and Drake where she has this disposition that's very kind of subdued and a bit Pointed and maybe you've seen her, she got long hair. But I saw her do a bit with my friend Andrew Santino and my friend Bobby Lee, and I was kind of curious about her. I didn't know if she was a comedian or where she fell in the world. And I don't know a lot of that. I don't know most of the people that are stars on TikTok or YouTube or Instagram. I don't know who these people are. I always assume, I'm always surprised when I'm, you know, when people are like, oh, yeah, I sold out an arena. Yeah, what are you, what do you do? I do conversations with my dog. I'm like, I have no idea who you are, but congratulations, I guess. But Bobby, I was curious about her. I think it was driven initially by the fact like, well, I mean, if Bobby and Santino talk to her, I mean, why am I not part of this party? Why am I not part of what the kids are doing? Where's my time? But I did find her kind of curious and, and I don't know a lot about this new landscape of show business. I do know that it shifted. I do know that there's an, a new kind of tribalized show business that revolves around YouTube, podcasts and comedians and right wing garbage. I know that somehow or we live in a time where old school mainstream show business has contracted into something that seems confused and without relevance in a lot of ways through streamers and whatnot. But then there's this whole other very exciting, it seems area of show business that occurs on TikTok and Instagram and it's not nothing. I mean, some of these people are getting ratings or at least views of short content driven stuff that parallels what TV shows used to get when there were three networks on the air. So there are big stars in this world. And I think it's a tenuous world and it's primarily self driven by the people that are doing it. And it can all go away rather quickly, I believe. And that seems to happen all of a sudden someone is celebrating for having a candid moment out in public on camera about spitting on a dick. And next thing you know, she might be in trouble for some sort of crypto scam. And then they kind of fade into the woodwork. But fading into the woodwork is more like fading into the digital atmosphere where you're still kind of there kind of doing what you always did. It's just no one really gives a fuck. All that said, I wanted to talk to Bobby, I did her show recently, but I wanted to talk to her about this new show business and, you know, her journey into it and how she became a kind of viral star. I mean, she started doing TikTok videos and developed a following around those with that character she does. And she's now the host of the really Good podcast, which is what I was on. And we shot it at Santa Dor, the cat shelter, which was funny and it was fun, but I knew I had to be kind of, you know, standoffish and bust her balls a little bit. And it's not really my nature, especially now with somebody I don't know that well, but I did it after I talked to her. But anyway, I found the interview to be enlightening and I liked her a great deal. And it does. It is a good, you know, story about what it takes to be, whether it's an influencer or, you know, a viral phenomenon, which is really, you know, sadly, in some ways where most of show business lies now to the point where you've got old school show business just glomming on to whoever can generate some money one way or the other, any way or the other. And so they're shifting as well. So that's, that's who's on the show today. My 2025 tour kicks off in Sacramento, California at the Crest Theater on Friday, January 10th. I'm in Napa at the Uptown Theater on Saturday, January 11th. Fort Collins, Colorado, at Lincoln Center Performance Hall, January 17th. That's a Friday. Boulder, Colorado, at the Boulder theater on Saturday, January 18th. Those Colorado shows might be sold out. I'll be in Santa Barbara, California at the Lobaro theater on Thursday, January 30th. Then San Luis Obispo, California at the Fremont center on Friday, January 31st. Monterey, California, at the Golden State Theater on Saturday, February 1st. A lot of other dates coming up in a lot of red states. It almost looks like a red state tour, which I don't, you know, I didn't anticipate and I think a few months ago I was nervous about, and I'll probably be nervous about it as well as I head into them. But I know you're out there. I know you're out there in Kansas and Oklahoma and the Carolinas. I know that what's going to happen after January 20th is, you know, somehow or another, these shows will become kind of a safe space to speak our minds or hear me speak mine. I'll do what I can. I'm. I'm right there with you. But you can go to wtfpod.com tour for all my dates and links to tickets. But I am right there with you. I, you know, I think we have a weird kind of menacing lull going on right now. Did you all do your gift shopping yet? Have you? I've got something you can get for your whole family right now. The gift of peace of mind. 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All I know Is that I was with Terminix exterminator guy in my crawl space under the house yesterday, trying to figure out where these fucking rats are coming in. And I thought I'd plugged all the holes, but he said, no, look at these holes around these pipes. I'm like, they can get in those. And he's like, yup. And I'm like, that's crazy. How do they even do that? He's like, well, I don't know. It's all cartilage, and they just kind of make themselves. They can kind of worm their way in there like a rat. And I'm like, oh, my God. And I had some of that foam, you know that. That foam stuff that you fill holes with? And I was just, like, squirting that around the pipe holes. And it's like, it makes this big foamy thing that gets hard. And I thought that was great. And I'm like, this is the good stuff. This is where. This is one of the good things. I guess it's the little things. I don't know. But, you know, I could. Man, I could spend a morning or at least a couple hours just foaming holes. You know, I. Maybe I'm in the wrong line of work. You know, when you find that kind of stuff, you know, totally rewarding, and think, like, you know, this is. This is what I worked for. I don't know. Most people would just have some guy do that, But I'm like, I got the foam stuff. He's like, you should put it in there. I'm like, oh, my God, this is amazing. I'll do it. I'll do it. Okay, so, Bobby Altov. I. I will tell you again that I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation to the point where I told Brendan, I'm like, you're gonna like this one. This is a good episode. As I mentioned before, Bobby Altoff is the host of the really Good podcast, which you can listen to where you get podcasts or watch on YouTube. I think I'm gonna be on there mid January at some point. And this is me meeting and talking to Bobby Altoff. I got a lot of travel coming up. Going to New York, New Jersey. I got the tour dates next year. 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