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Marc Maron
Lock the gate. All right, let's do this. How are you? What the fuckers? What the fuck, buddies? What the fuck? Nicks, what's happening? I'm Marc Maron. This is my podcast. Welcome to it. If you're new here, welcome. You got a lot of catching up to do if you're regulars. How are you? Everything all right? Did you get that thing fixed? When are you going to see the guy? When are you going to see the doctor? When are you going to see that guy about your car? When's the guy coming over to fix the thing? What's happening? Where are we at? Slow down. Take it easy. Take a breather. Don't get your heart rate too fast. Hey, look. What is happening? What is happening? We're standing here on the brink of destruction. Oh, my God. What a relief it is to have a president that unites the people and is able to give them comfort in difficult times. What a relief that we have a president who feels like a leader and that we can all rally behind and kind of know that he'll do his best to do the right thing. What a relief we have a responsible and thoughtful and intelligent president surrounded by thoughtful, intelligent, and professional people. You know, it's rare that it happens, but, man, we've really got it now, don't we? God damn it, yes. We're all gonna go down together, even those of us that didn't want to. Anyway, what's happening? I have. What I. What have I been doing? First off. First off, Megan Stalter is on the show and she's so fucking funny. I mean, she is so fucking funny. She plays Kyla, the assistant to manager Jimmy, and later his co manager on Hacks. She has a background in sketch comedy and improv comedy, and now she has this new Netflix series called Too Much. But she's just a. A raw talent, man. And I mean that in the best way. Everything seems like it's happening in the moment and she's just naturally funny. I was very excited to talk to her. I didn't. I didn't know how much we talked about in terms of, like, you know, she's, you know, she's pretty young in terms of people. I know, but it was great, great conversation and I just like her. But aside from that, I've been taking it easy. Yeah. Taking it easy here on the brink of World War iii. Just trying to find a little space to enjoy my fucking summer. Turns out, I like summer. I don't know if I've really said it out loud, but summer is I used to think I was a fall guy because I like those colors. I like layering. But I think after years of being in Los Angeles where layering isn't that necessary, you know, I like wearing shorts. I like wearing surfer shorts. I like wearing sandals. I like wearing lineny kind of shirts, short sleeve shirts. And if it gets chilly, I got a buddy now, my friend Sarah over at Deco Denim. She made me two of these kind of lightweight chore coats that are just sweet. It's not that I'm moving out of the ship John thing. It's just a summer. Summer. We're doing a different thing. We need a little lighter, a little airy. I like the chore jacket. And I just want to sit on my fucking porch and think, have a coffee, read a little bit. I started reading Moby Dick. Is that. That's what I want to do? Is that okay? But there's a lot of shit going on, a lot of bad shit. But I'm finding a zone and take it fucking easy, man. Can you hear it in my voice? I'm going to take it fucking easy. Did a lot of cleaning, cleaned up the whole porch. It was getting a little. My porch was getting a little rednecky. A lot of stuff on the porch. There was some furniture that was no longer in the house. It was on the porch. A lot of boxes. There was a tarp on the porch. There was a broken table on the porch. Shit was building up, man. And I just cleaned it all up. Because your home, your apartment, whatever it is, whatever your living situation is, it does mean something. To get it in order to get it, streamline it to. To make it organized. Just so when you walk into it, there's a moment where you're like, yes, yes. And now I have that out there. So I had a weird thing happen, and I think I handled it well. But let's do some business. Don't worry about being away from home this summer. Now's the time to get the very best in home security. Simplisafe. We've been recommending SimpliSafe since 2016 as the best home security. And now it's even better. Simplisafe stops intruders before they break into your home. Older systems only take action once someone is already inside. That's too late, because he's in there. He's in there already. Simplisafe's Active Guard, Outdoor Protection, changes the game by preventing crime before it even happens. If someone's lurking around or acting suspiciously, the Simplisafe agents see them in real time. Talk to them directly. Set off your spotlights. Hey, buddy, get off his porch. He just cleaned it. 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It looks pretty, you know, like someone is like turning in the whole file to get a claim met. And I'm like, what is this? At first I thought like, oh, no. And crazy person has sent me some. Something that I don't know what to do with. And then I realized it does have. It's a thing. This is supposed to be somewhere. It was an urgent box. And then I look at the mailing label and it's my address. Okay, my address. But it's addressed to the attention of some person, another person. And it's Blue Cross Booze Shield 3, 39th floor. My address in Glendale. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? And then I started to kind of freak out, like, this needs to be somewhere. So I look up my address with Blue Cross Blue Shield and it's in a total other state. And then I taped the box back up because I don't know what to do with it. But I know it needs to get somewhere because someone might need to get their claim honored, if that even happens. So I call this Blue Cross Blue Shield in this other state. And of course you can't get through to anybody calling an insurance company. There's no way. And you're not going to get a person. There's no way to look it up. I looked up the person whose name was on it. And I'm like, fuck. I started to feel like the urgency, like, this needs to get somewhere. Someone sent this overnight, and now it's on my porch. So I go to ups and I'm like, I don't. I have a pretty good feeling. I did some research. This needs to be in Blue Cross Blue Shield. But this is my address. And the guy's like, yeah, well, we can't, you know, we can't return it to sender. You've opened it already. I'm like, well, what the fuck am I going to do? He goes, we can put it back in the system, but it'll just end up at your house. And I'm like, all right. And he said, what's the return address? And I'm like, it looks like I don't know. And I looked at the return address and I looked that up and. And that was in Texas at a boot cross Boo Shield in Texas. So I call that number and it's not even connected. Like I'm going to get through to insurance. So I don't know what to do. But this is the kind of thing where it's sort of like, not my problem, but isn't it, you know, somebody is, you know, looking to get made well by the insurance company. And it was a massive amount of paperwork, like, like singular paperwork, like checks. So I really had to figure out, you know, what am I going to do? Yeah, I made all the calls. I know it came from a Blue Cross, it's going to a Blue Cross both other states, but it is my address. So what I chose to do was go ahead and assume that I was correct in where it was supposed to go, and I just paid for it to be shipped there, not overnight. It would have cost a fortune. But it will get there, I think, and I just hope it gets there. But now I have the tracking and now I'm kind of invested in this story and now I'm in the middle of something. I. I don't think it's. I did anything wrong. I accidentally opened a package, but trying to make it right. And I hope it gets to where it needs to go. And I hope the person gets paid for their pain. I mean, that's why you have insurance. But someone fucked up. I guess it was just one of those, you know, same addresses and they give you all those options and someone hit the wrong one. But. But I hope it gets to where it's supposed to go. And I felt that was the right thing to do. And it did feel a bit like A good deed. And then I lost my. I was hoping for some karma, you know, I lost my. My AirPod case for my AirPods because I went into the gym with him, and then, I don't know, I left him somewhere. And. And it was a couple days ago, and I couldn't find him in my car, couldn't find him around my car when I came out because I knew they were somewhere. And I don't know, I didn't even think. I've got to adapt even deeper into technology. I didn't think to do the Find the thing, you know, app on the iPhone. I did it yesterday, and. And it said. It said that they were still in the parking lot. So I went back to the parking lot all excited. I thought, like, well, you know what? This is nice. Full circle day. Looked all over the place. No, couldn't find them, but they were there somewhere. And I went into the gym and I asked them if anyone brought them back. Because it's the parking lot for the gym. No. They suggest I go to the office of the parking lot. No. So now I'm just like, they're in a car. It's not specific enough, but probably for good reason. People are going to be showing up at people's houses. You got my. My AirPod case. No, I know you do. I followed the trail. It's right on my phone. You liar. You liar. But, you know, I'm impulsive and nuts, and I just. I couldn't find it. And then I assumed, well, someone must have put them in their car, and they're just sitting in a car. They found them, and they're not going to do anything with them. But I'm like, you're going to have to eat it, buddy. Gotta get another AirPod case. So I ordered that. But now, like, I think it'll be fun to check in and follow my other AirPod case around. Maybe someday it'll come back to me. Maybe someday I'll show up at someone's house and go, hey, I know this is weird, but do you have my AirPod case? The charging case? No. I know it's in here, you fuck. That's not the right tone. All right, so look, you guys, Megan Salter is here. She's in all four seasons of Hacks, and they're all streaming on Max. Her new Netflix series, Too Much, premieres July 10. And this is me meeting her and talking to her folks. Here's the thing about travel. We want it to be easy. Like, for me, I'll try to fly out of Burbank whenever I can. As opposed to go to lax, I deal with one car rental company. The bottom line is, anything I can do to make my trip easier, I'll do. 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Megan Stalter
I feel so amazing.
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Marc Maron
Really? In general?
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Megan Stalter
Yeah. I had a really sweet smoothie on the way here, so I felt feel jacked up.
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Marc Maron
Oh, really? What was it?
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Megan Stalter
It was a date carrot smoothie.
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Marc Maron
Oh, date smoothies.
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Megan Stalter
And so I'm like, I don't like to eat.
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Marc Maron
That's why sugar. You're good.
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Megan Stalter
Well, I was gonna say, but it's natural sugar, right?
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Marc Maron
Right. But we gotta get this in before you fall asleep.
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Megan Stalter
But natural sugar. Am I gonna crash as much?
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Marc Maron
Sure, I think so.
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Megan Stalter
Oh, God.
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Marc Maron
I don't know. But there's all kinds of good stuff. I mean, I don't really know, but I like date shakes. You ever go to like. I'm vegan. You ever go to Fred62? You know that?
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Megan Stalter
I don't think so.
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Marc Maron
On Vermont. That it's open relate. It's like a dinery kind of place.
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Megan Stalter
Oh, it's like a vegan diner?
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Marc Maron
No, it's like a regular place, but they have vegan stuff. But they make a vegan date shake with coconut bliss ice cream.
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Megan Stalter
Do you fall asleep with it?
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Marc Maron
No, because usually I. I drink it like one in the morning. I'll like after a show, I'll go over there. I've only done it twice, but it.
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Megan Stalter
Keeps you up or it doesn't?
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Marc Maron
No, it just makes me feel like up in the morning.
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Megan Stalter
Yeah, yeah.
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Marc Maron
Like, you know, I just.
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Megan Stalter
I didn't drink the full shake, so I won't be too.
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Marc Maron
Oh, good. So I watched like several episodes of the new show too much.
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Megan Stalter
You did?
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Marc Maron
Yeah.
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Megan Stalter
Oh, my God.
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Marc Maron
So funny.
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Megan Stalter
Thank you.
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Marc Maron
You're so funny.
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Megan Stalter
That means a lot to me. I really like. Cuz I've never done a show like that.
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Marc Maron
Really?
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Megan Stalter
Yeah.
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Marc Maron
Well, I guess. Yeah.
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Megan Stalter
Very romcom.
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Marc Maron
Right? But it's like, it's just. But it's all you.
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Megan Stalter
It's like subverted rom com.
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Marc Maron
Subverted rom com. With the kind of like British twist.
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Megan Stalter
Yes. Yeah.
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Marc Maron
Like it's kind of modeled on. What is it? British Jones Diary or what is that what it's called?
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Megan Stalter
Well, we did it with working title. Who did a lot of rom com. British rom com. Movies that are amazing. And Yeah, I love British Jones Diary. It's very like.
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Marc Maron
You do? Well, that's sort of like.
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Megan Stalter
Sorry.
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Marc Maron
Yeah.
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Megan Stalter
We have a joke in the show where I call it the British Jones Diaries. And so now I accidentally say that.
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Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah.
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Megan Stalter
Bridget Jones Diaries.
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Marc Maron
But still, it's like you in this world and you know, you're so, you know, kind of. I don't know if the word is neurotic and slightly aggravated, but it's just that the contrast is very funny with all the people around you, you know, British or not British. But I think that's what you're a genius at is the contrast of you and the world.
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Megan Stalter
Thank you. She definitely is like a nervous girl having a breakdown who's also confident at the same time.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. And I feel like there's some anger in there.
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Megan Stalter
Definitely. And she's going through a horrible, crazy breakup.
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Marc Maron
That's right. That she keeps obsessing about Emily Ratajkowski.
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Megan Stalter
Which is so funny to me because that's what people do when they're going through a breakup. They're obsessed over the new person.
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Marc Maron
Sure. But back in the day, back in my day, you didn't get to watch them together. Together every day.
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Megan Stalter
That's what's psycho about where we live now.
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Marc Maron
It's totally psycho. I can't even imagine. Like, I'll check in on a couple exes online, but I don't.
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Megan Stalter
It's fun.
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Marc Maron
Yeah, but I don't know. No, it's not.
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Megan Stalter
It's fun. If you're like, oh, like, what do they look like now?
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Marc Maron
Oh, sure, sure. Oh, look what happened to that person.
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Megan Stalter
Or like, or like. Oh, I guess if you're like completely. There's no hard feelings. It's fun to look, Right?
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Marc Maron
Sure.
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Megan Stalter
But then if there is, I guess then I could imagine it being like.
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Marc Maron
Yeah.
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Megan Stalter
Oh, but I, I.
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Marc Maron
But your character's obsessed.
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Megan Stalter
But she's obsessed almost to a like, sexual level.
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Marc Maron
Yeah.
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Megan Stalter
Like it's almost gay, but it's not Cause she's so straight.
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Marc Maron
Right. It's funny because you chose whoever did it cast Emily Ratacowski. Yeah.
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Megan Stalter
It's perfect.
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Marc Maron
And it's just the idea of her being married to. What's his name? What's that actor's name?
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Megan Stalter
Oh, Michael. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From Marvelous. Mrs. Maisel.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. I'm like, I don't. Okay.
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Megan Stalter
Maybe you don't think that they would go for each other.
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Marc Maron
I'm like, I'm still waiting to see what he's got that would make that a possibility.
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Megan Stalter
It's so. He does such a good job in the show because he truly does, though, come off as so evil in certain scenes. But there are flashbacks where you're like, wait, I could see this person being charming.
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Marc Maron
Sure.
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Megan Stalter
Which is. I feel like you don't always see in a show. You usually see the exes, like, oh. Exits in the past. But to see someone getting over. And there was girls in our makeup trailer that truly were talking about whether she should be with the ex or not. And I'm like, are you guys crazy? Like, he's horrible.
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Marc Maron
Yeah.
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Megan Stalter
But they seen all of the story.
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Marc Maron
With you, with your character.
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Megan Stalter
Yeah. Like, the. You know, the two guys in it. Like, she's falling for this new guy. There's the old guy. And they talked about whether or not, like, who they choose. I'm like, what are you talking about?
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Marc Maron
Right.
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Megan Stalter
You choose the ex. He was horrible to her.
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Marc Maron
Right. But that they're involved with the story, at least.
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Megan Stalter
But they're into the story. They see the flashbacks. Like, I can see the charm of.
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Marc Maron
This guy, but it's just so funny when you deal, like. Because I did a. An episode of Easy. Joe Swanberg show.
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Megan Stalter
I love that show.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. With Emily.
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Megan Stalter
I loved your episode.
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Marc Maron
Oh, thank you. And it's just like, in look, I. People of that type of beauty, you know, that's just this natural. It's almost like they're aliens. Like, they're like.
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Megan Stalter
Like, AI.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. Like, where did you come from? How do you even interface with the real world? So there's that sort of thing that. But she's kind of underplayed it. She's pretty good at being a regular person.
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Megan Stalter
She's so, like, sweet. And she's such a. Like, girls girl. Like, yeah, yeah. When I met her, I'm like, oh, my God. She, like, lives for her friends.
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Marc Maron
It's nice.
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Megan Stalter
And it's so, like, it made it really easy to be, like, obsessive, obsessing over her in the show, but not easy to be mad. At her, of course.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, because I guess I think that sadly, maybe I'm projecting that. That there's. When somebody's that naturally beautiful, there's some part of you that wants to not like them.
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Megan Stalter
Why do you think that? Like, is it society being like, oh, like, you can't, like, have it all or something?
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Marc Maron
No, I just. I think it's sort of.
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Megan Stalter
Or it's intimidating.
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Marc Maron
No, I think it's just basic insecure jealousy.
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Megan Stalter
Yeah, I see.
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Marc Maron
Right. I don't like. You know, like, it's like, even.
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Megan Stalter
Oh, you're like. I don't. Ugh. Like, it's. Yeah, I see what you're saying.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. Like, you know, what does she have to worry about?
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Megan Stalter
Security.
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Marc Maron
Of course.
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Megan Stalter
Yeah.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. Even, like, when you're in high school or When I was in high school, you know, these dudes, you know, that were like, seem to have it all together, and you're like, no, I'm not that guy. That guy.
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Megan Stalter
It makes you feel better to be like, well, there has to be like, yeah. Like, I don't like that person. They couldn't be nice.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. You can only hope that they're struggling with some horrible things.
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Megan Stalter
Perfect angel.
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Marc Maron
Oh, God damn it.
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Megan Stalter
You would love her.
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Marc Maron
No, I. I met her. But, like, some of the things.
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Megan Stalter
You would still love her. Oh, yeah. You guys work together.
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Marc Maron
Yeah, of course.
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Megan Stalter
You know her.
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Marc Maron
But you find out as time goes on that everybody has their own struggles.
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Megan Stalter
There's ugly people that are mean, and there's beautiful people that are nice, so.
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Marc Maron
Oh, and hacks, too. You're great in that, too. That's so. You're very funny. Different character.
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Megan Stalter
Wacky assistant.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. But I like the fact that she turns out to really kind of nail it here and there.
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Megan Stalter
It's kind of. I really think scenes are so sweet. Like her and Jimmy loving each other. Those are my favorite things to.
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Marc Maron
Well, I just liked his inability to really sort of have a boundary. That's the funniest part, is that you just keep coming, and eventually he's like.
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Megan Stalter
Okay, do you think they'd be a good couple? You want to see them be a couple in the show or no? No.
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Marc Maron
I don't know. Because I don't know how that would play out. What if it doesn't play out well? And, you know, whether or not you.
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Megan Stalter
Did it or not, I think that it's like they are not going to ever hook up or be married, but I think if he had a girlfriend, she would, like, slash her tires.
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Marc Maron
Sure, sure.
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Megan Stalter
And I could see Kayla getting pregnant and Jimmy stepping up as a father.
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Marc Maron
Oh, you can?
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Megan Stalter
Yeah. But not in a romantic way. More like, I'm gonna take care of my family.
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Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Megan Stalter
He's. He's her guy.
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Marc Maron
Yeah, Yeah, I know. I know. That's a fun show. And you have Robbie on there now.
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Megan Stalter
So funny.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah. So funny. She's so good.
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Megan Stalter
She's so good.
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Marc Maron
So, like, I don't know, you know, where you came from.
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Megan Stalter
Mm.
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Marc Maron
Or where, like, all of a sudden, because I'm old, and somehow I miss a chunk of time, and there's all these people coming up.
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Megan Stalter
How old do you think I am?
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Marc Maron
35.
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Megan Stalter
Oh, you must have looked up.
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Marc Maron
No, how old are you?
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Megan Stalter
I'm about to be 35. Oh, it was. So the reason why I say you looked up is. It's so, so true to my age that I'm like, you really nailed it. Cause I'm just about to be 35.
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Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah. But I have a hard time telling old people.
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Megan Stalter
How are you able to tell? Like, right on the dot. You're good at that.
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Marc Maron
Well, I don't know. I didn't. I don't. I didn't. I don't think I saw how old you are. But I do know, like. Like, I've. I have a hard time identifying, like, once people get in their 30s. Like, I wouldn't. I don't. I don't know how old anyone is.
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Megan Stalter
But that's what's crazy about you. Guessing it right, is because usually people are like, oh, 36, 34. You know, like one or two off. But you're really.
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Marc Maron
It was a medium. It was like, I just took a shot. But you're not gonna, you know, get mad at people who say 34 or 36?
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Megan Stalter
No, of course not.
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Marc Maron
But if people say 40, then you're.
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Megan Stalter
You know, I wouldn't even be mad. 40's so young.
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Marc Maron
Yeah, but about 28.
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Megan Stalter
28'S like a teenager, though.
- [22:19]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah, I guess.
- [22:20]
Megan Stalter
So, like, 20s or teens? 40s is young.
- [22:25]
Marc Maron
I'm 61.
- [22:26]
Megan Stalter
60S is young.
- [22:27]
Marc Maron
Yeah, I don't know.
- [22:28]
Megan Stalter
It is.
- [22:29]
Marc Maron
I like the idea of that. You know, I do. I understand that it is young. Well, yeah. It's not 80. When does old happen?
- [22:36]
Megan Stalter
I think old is, like, 90.
- [22:39]
Marc Maron
Wow.
- [22:41]
Megan Stalter
Serious.
- [22:42]
Marc Maron
Everything below 90 is young.
- [22:44]
Megan Stalter
I think 60 is very young. I think 70s is like, okay, what are we gonna. What are we doing with. What are we. What kind of.
- [22:50]
Marc Maron
You better get that stuff done.
- [22:52]
Megan Stalter
Whatever we want. Our job's just starting. Our Career is just starting at 70.
- [22:56]
Marc Maron
No, at 70, it's sort of like, I'm done with fucking.
- [22:58]
Megan Stalter
Let's go to vacation.
- [22:59]
Marc Maron
Yeah. You know, I've got a little time left.
- [23:02]
Megan Stalter
70. I feel like you still have a lot of time left.
- [23:04]
Marc Maron
It depends who you are. I like that you're optimistic about it, but I got a buddy who I was with last night who's 71, and he's not thinking the same way you were.
- [23:14]
Megan Stalter
What did he say?
- [23:15]
Marc Maron
No, no, he's okay. But, like, you become.
- [23:18]
Megan Stalter
He feels older.
- [23:19]
Marc Maron
You become very aware of, like, the clock.
- [23:22]
Megan Stalter
Is it kind of exciting, though? It's like, you know, so much that happens.
- [23:28]
Marc Maron
Well, what does that mean?
- [23:29]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I'm saying you have so many stories, and then you still have so much life to live.
- [23:34]
Marc Maron
Maybe. Yeah. But you also know, like, this is gonna close up soon.
- [23:38]
Megan Stalter
But that's how you could close up soon at 28.
- [23:42]
Marc Maron
I know. Would that be tragic?
- [23:44]
Megan Stalter
Well, yeah, but it'd be tragic at your age as well. 60s is very young.
- [23:47]
Marc Maron
Sure.
- [23:48]
Megan Stalter
You have stories and a lot of.
- [23:50]
Marc Maron
Life left as long as you remember them. Cause that can go, too, depending on.
- [23:53]
Megan Stalter
But you podcast, of course. You have so many stories. You remember.
- [23:56]
Marc Maron
I do. Sometimes they come up, and I, like, I did one on stage at Largo the other night that I hadn't done in a while. Like, it was just something that happened with my mother when I was younger. Mulaney went on after me. He's like, are you doing that in the special? I'm like, no. He's like, how are you not doing that?
- [24:13]
Megan Stalter
Oh, it just, like, came out like, it wasn't planned well.
- [24:16]
Marc Maron
Yeah, it's a very specific story about my mother's sense of humor. That was inappropriate. And I was very young, and it made an impression.
- [24:23]
Megan Stalter
What was the story? I need to know the joke.
- [24:27]
Marc Maron
It was not a joke. It was just like. You know when you try to figure out where you get your sense of humor.
- [24:31]
Megan Stalter
Yes. Yeah.
- [24:31]
Marc Maron
Cause my dad wanted to be funny, but I don't know how funny he was. He was. You know, he was manic and kind of exciting sometimes.
- [24:37]
Megan Stalter
Was he funny to you?
- [24:38]
Marc Maron
No, not really.
- [24:40]
Megan Stalter
Okay.
- [24:41]
Marc Maron
No, he was just. He was a little scary and unpredictable or depressed. But there was one time we were on a ski trip with another family, me and my brother, my little brother. And they had two kids. They were a little younger than me and my brother, the Leffenfelds. And we went up. Our families went up to, like, a ski resort in Colorado.
- [24:57]
Megan Stalter
That is so, like, glamorous.
- [24:59]
Marc Maron
Kind of, you know, I guess so. You know, it's just like. We lived in New Mexico. You ski?
- [25:03]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. That's cool.
- [25:05]
Marc Maron
But we took this trip with this other family and we were at dinner and I don't know who said it. Someone brought up, one of the adults said, like, if you were like, stranded in the snow on a mountain and it came down to, you know, having to eat the people that you were, you were with, what part would you eat first? And my mom just, without missing a beat, goes, I guess the penis. Cause at least I'm used to that.
- [25:28]
Megan Stalter
Oh, my God. How old were you?
- [25:30]
Marc Maron
Like 11.
- [25:31]
Megan Stalter
That is a really dirty, funny joke.
- [25:34]
Marc Maron
Yes. That's why I remembered it.
- [25:36]
Megan Stalter
Were you appalled or were you laughing?
- [25:38]
Marc Maron
I didn't know what to make of it. You don't really know what to make of that.
- [25:40]
Megan Stalter
But I thought they were gonna say, which family member would you eat?
- [25:43]
Marc Maron
No, no, it was very specific. And I was like, yeah, well, that kind of discomfort is what drives me to be funny, I guess.
- [25:50]
Megan Stalter
Do you think you would eat one of your cats if something happened? No. Or which one would you have if you had to eat?
- [25:57]
Marc Maron
No, I can't. I wouldn't.
- [25:58]
Megan Stalter
If you had to.
- [26:00]
Marc Maron
If I had to eat a cat?
- [26:01]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, if. Which one would it be?
- [26:02]
Marc Maron
I guess Sam.
- [26:04]
Megan Stalter
Is he the one you've had the least amount?
- [26:06]
Marc Maron
No, he's just a little dumb.
- [26:09]
Megan Stalter
Oh, my God. You're going by the knowledge.
- [26:12]
Marc Maron
What would be happening by the charm factor.
- [26:14]
Megan Stalter
I would go on the meat of.
- [26:15]
Marc Maron
How big, smarter he is. The plumpest one.
- [26:20]
Megan Stalter
Okay, good. Okay.
- [26:21]
Marc Maron
Yeah. I don't want to think. I don't eat any meat anymore. Yeah.
- [26:24]
Megan Stalter
By the way, I wouldn't want to eat an animal. I don't eat meat. Unless it's a chicken that's been like organic.
- [26:31]
Marc Maron
Oh, a well treated chicken.
- [26:33]
Megan Stalter
Well treated. Last night I was like, oh, I only eat chicken if it's locally killed. But I meant like, yeah, like, not like killed in the area, like locally sourced.
- [26:44]
Marc Maron
Oh, free range.
- [26:45]
Megan Stalter
Free range. Had a good life.
- [26:47]
Marc Maron
Happy chicken.
- [26:48]
Megan Stalter
Happy chicken. And it's only because I feel like I need it.
- [26:52]
Marc Maron
Yeah, but that's the only meat you eat.
- [26:53]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I don't eat meat.
- [26:55]
Marc Maron
Yeah, it's been a couple years. I don't eat any.
- [26:56]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, it's all right. People are crazy about meat and I just feel like it's a new thing.
- [27:01]
Marc Maron
It can't be good for you. And people argue with me, but, you know, time will tell.
- [27:06]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [27:06]
Marc Maron
I mean, it's all relative to your own body. Chemistry. If you're going to sit there, these people are eating raw organ meat in the morning.
- [27:11]
Megan Stalter
It's like, dude, some people only eat meat bowls. Bowls of meat.
- [27:14]
Marc Maron
I know.
- [27:15]
Megan Stalter
I listen to, like, a health podcast and the person. I'm not going to say the name of the podcast, but I will say the person eats so much. It's all she eats. She's like a bowl of meat in the morning.
- [27:23]
Marc Maron
I'm like, a bowl of meat. And then they're on Instagram, like, saying, like, yummy. And you're like, in what world?
- [27:29]
Megan Stalter
I know. And you're taking in the. Well, this is what my friend told me last night. When you're eating meat, you're taking in the energy of that animal.
- [27:36]
Marc Maron
The fear.
- [27:37]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, yeah. Totally scary.
- [27:39]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Just a fear burger. Enjoy.
- [27:41]
Megan Stalter
And by the way, burgers always made me sick.
- [27:44]
Marc Maron
Really?
- [27:45]
Megan Stalter
Well, don't they? Didn't they make you.
- [27:47]
Marc Maron
No, I mean, like, I can't say that I didn't enjoy meat.
- [27:50]
Megan Stalter
It tasted good. But I'm saying, doesn't it? Didn't it not. Not sit well with you? No, the idea of it.
- [27:55]
Marc Maron
No, not quite.
- [27:56]
Megan Stalter
Okay.
- [27:57]
Marc Maron
Not quite. You know where it really landed? Like, I mean, I understood that, but, like, I didn't become a vegan, you know, necessarily for totally ethical reasons.
- [28:05]
Megan Stalter
Okay.
- [28:07]
Marc Maron
I just wanted to see how it would feel and what it would do.
- [28:09]
Megan Stalter
Oh, interesting. Okay.
- [28:10]
Marc Maron
But it's gotten more ethical as time goes on. Like, you know, what happened was I was eating those. Those bone in ribeyes, like a ribeye steak that still had the.
- [28:19]
Megan Stalter
Oh, you loved it.
- [28:21]
Marc Maron
The tomahawk steak.
- [28:22]
Megan Stalter
You loved meat then.
- [28:23]
Marc Maron
Well, yeah, but there was that one day where it was sort of like, that's just this chunk of it.
- [28:26]
Megan Stalter
Oh, my God. Animal. Yeah.
- [28:28]
Marc Maron
And this whole piece of it's right there.
- [28:31]
Megan Stalter
It's really. Well, in America, they treat their meat so horribly and they put so many hormones. It's really not good for us. So, yeah, if you're in.
- [28:41]
Marc Maron
And some. They don't treat a lot of their people that well, to be honest.
- [28:44]
Megan Stalter
That's as true.
- [28:46]
Marc Maron
But like, you came on the comedy scene and, you know, and you're performing and stuff, and I knew you were on hacks and. But because I'm sort of out of certain loops, I'm like, where did she come from, this funny person?
- [28:58]
Megan Stalter
Well, thank you for the compliment. Do you think of me as an actor or a comedian, like a standup?
- [29:03]
Marc Maron
I think of you as a funny person.
- [29:04]
Megan Stalter
Okay. I like that.
- [29:06]
Marc Maron
Like, when you were doing stand up, I Was like, does she do stand up? But I don't even know if you were. If I knew you as an actor yet.
- [29:13]
Megan Stalter
Well, I like that. Keeping you on your toes.
- [29:14]
Marc Maron
Yeah. You're just this phenomenon.
- [29:17]
Megan Stalter
Thank you. That means a lot. That's. I would love for people to think that's what I am. Cause I did improv and stand up in Chicago for years.
- [29:26]
Marc Maron
Really? Well, where do you come from?
- [29:27]
Megan Stalter
So I'm from Ohio.
- [29:29]
Marc Maron
Where.
- [29:30]
Megan Stalter
Well, I was born in Cleveland and I grew up in Dayton, Ohio.
- [29:34]
Marc Maron
I know Cleveland.
- [29:35]
Megan Stalter
Cleveland's. I feel, like, the most fun part of Ohio, probably.
- [29:38]
Marc Maron
Do you spend a lot of time in Cleveland?
- [29:39]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [29:40]
Marc Maron
What's the name of that corned beef place?
- [29:42]
Megan Stalter
Hmm. I don't know. I'm not that good at the restaurant names because I was born there and now I go back to see my family.
- [29:50]
Marc Maron
But I always forget because, like, it was. It's this place.
- [29:54]
Megan Stalter
I don't know.
- [29:55]
Marc Maron
It's this place.
- [29:55]
Megan Stalter
You're missing meat. You're missing meat.
- [29:57]
Marc Maron
No, no, no, no.
- [29:58]
Megan Stalter
Are you sure?
- [29:58]
Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah. It's this place where I would do, like, radio shows to plug my gigs.
- [30:04]
Megan Stalter
What is that place?
- [30:05]
Marc Maron
And then. And then they'd be like, let's go get some corned beef. I'm like, it's nine in the morning.
- [30:09]
Megan Stalter
Like, lunch meat. Corned beef.
- [30:11]
Marc Maron
Well, that's just. They have. They just. It's all they do at this place.
- [30:14]
Megan Stalter
And you go, I don't think I've been there.
- [30:16]
Marc Maron
Slimmins.
- [30:17]
Megan Stalter
Okay. I've never heard of that.
- [30:19]
Marc Maron
Slime and corned beef.
- [30:20]
Megan Stalter
That is interesting.
- [30:22]
Marc Maron
Yeah. And, like, you could order, like. I think you get corned beef and eggs, which is kind of a Jewish thing.
- [30:28]
Megan Stalter
Dad, if he knows that place, because.
- [30:30]
Marc Maron
Of course he knows slime.
- [30:32]
Megan Stalter
I think they do. I mean, I feel like he would eat something. Like, maybe, like, my family all eats meat, so maybe they've eaten it.
- [30:37]
Marc Maron
Here we go. Simon's breakfast menu. Here. Two fresh eggs with home fries and corned beef. Two fresh eggs with corned beef. Two fresh eggs with corned beef hash.
- [30:47]
Megan Stalter
What would you get?
- [30:48]
Marc Maron
I. I like corned beef hash.
- [30:50]
Megan Stalter
Okay. You know, what would you get if you went now? You wouldn't eat it.
- [30:53]
Marc Maron
I wouldn't go there.
- [30:54]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, exactly.
- [30:55]
Marc Maron
But I used to do corned beef. Like, the Jews do a corned beef and egg thing.
- [30:59]
Megan Stalter
I mean, it. If I ate meat, I definitely would try it. I don't think I've been there, though.
- [31:04]
Marc Maron
Then there was another place that just made the sausages in Cleveland. It was, like, sort of There was this weird. There's a grilled cheese restaurant.
- [31:11]
Megan Stalter
Is it called Melt?
- [31:12]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [31:13]
Megan Stalter
I have been there.
- [31:14]
Marc Maron
Right.
- [31:14]
Megan Stalter
And though. And that I was crazy for. You could get like a pierogi grilled cheese sandwich or like a pizza roll, grilled cheese. And of course, you feel kind of sick after, but sure, it's really good.
- [31:27]
Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah. There's a couple of, like, adventurous food. I remember in Cleveland there was a guy that was doing the sort of, like, artisanal sausage business. And then you got Michael. Michael Simon, the master chef. You know, who had restaurants down there by. By. You know that club on that street down by the stadium? You know that one, six six three? Yeah.
- [31:48]
Megan Stalter
It's like, stuff.
- [31:49]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah.
- [31:50]
Megan Stalter
I'll have to check it out.
- [31:52]
Marc Maron
Well, what's Dayton like?
- [31:54]
Megan Stalter
Well, Dayton is Dayton agent. There just wasn't that much going on. Yeah, I think Cleveland was a lot more fun. My family's all back in Cleveland now. My dad has a tattoo shop in Cleveland called the Voodoo Monkey Tattoo.
- [32:07]
Marc Maron
Wait, your dad's a tattoo artist?
- [32:08]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, and I have. And my brother does tattoos there. And I have tattoos from both of them. And that's the only people I want to tattoo me.
- [32:15]
Marc Maron
Does it say, like, if found, return.
- [32:17]
Megan Stalter
To Voodoo Monkey tattoo.
- [32:22]
Marc Maron
She's one of ours.
- [32:23]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. That is a good idea for a tattoo. It took me a long time. Do you have tattoos? No, no, no, no, no.
- [32:30]
Marc Maron
I mean, I. Everyone I know it's gotten to the point with tattoos. I think that every woman I've dated over the last 20 years has had them, but I'd be hard pressed to tell you exactly what they are. Like, I don't even really. Yeah, they don't register because, like, back in the day, you'd be like, what the. What is that tattoo? And now it's sort of like everyone has. One of my girlfriends had an unfinished one for the entire time I knew her.
- [32:51]
Megan Stalter
I don't think she ever finished.
- [32:52]
Marc Maron
It's kind of disturbing. It was these two skulls with wings, but there was more to it that she never got done. So they were just these two skulls with wings.
- [32:59]
Megan Stalter
I was once on a date with somebody. I don't know if I called a full date, but I will say that he had a noose tattoo around his neck.
- [33:10]
Marc Maron
Oh, God.
- [33:11]
Megan Stalter
And I am interested in what that could mean because it did feel alarming. He seemed like he was, like, kind of embarrassed about it. Does that mean something?
- [33:22]
Marc Maron
Yeah, it means that, you know, that's a good question. It's even, what neck tattoos in general or people who tattoo their face. It's like, do you not like you?
- [33:30]
Megan Stalter
Well, I was very. I was. I'm not gonna say anything bad about the tattoo, but I will say I am alarmed and I am curious about what it can mean.
- [33:39]
Marc Maron
How long did you go out that guy?
- [33:41]
Megan Stalter
It was only a couple dates. It was not working out, but.
- [33:44]
Marc Maron
Well, why didn't it work out?
- [33:46]
Megan Stalter
Well, you know, he. At the time. This was a long, long time ago. And I think. I think I was like. Well, I definitely was, like, not really interested in boyfriend. I was more interested in women. But I still dated guys at the time.
- [34:00]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [34:01]
Megan Stalter
And I think I just was, like. He was. He was this, like, firefighter, and he seemed kind of nice, but. And he probably is nice. Yeah, but he seemed like something was happening that I didn't understand.
- [34:11]
Marc Maron
Like, I feel like a neck tattoo that was a noose.
- [34:14]
Megan Stalter
Maybe he had a wife. I feel like he. Something was going on. Like, he seemed betrothed to someone else. Like, I. I don't think he felt available. Like. Yeah, he felt like maybe something. Like he had a girlfriend or wife. And if you're listening to this and I just told you that your husband's cheating on you, I'm really sorry, but I don't know what to say.
- [34:34]
Marc Maron
Long time ago.
- [34:34]
Megan Stalter
It was a long time ago. Maybe he stopped.
- [34:36]
Marc Maron
Yeah, maybe you're wrong.
- [34:38]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, maybe I'm wrong. He could have a girlfriend. He could. Just not emotionally available.
- [34:43]
Marc Maron
Sure.
- [34:44]
Megan Stalter
It was more so, like, he'd be like, let's go out. Let's go out. And then I'd be like, okay. And then he'd be like, I can't. There's a fire downtown. And I'm like, what? He has to go out to the fires?
- [34:54]
Marc Maron
Yeah. You're fighting with fire.
- [34:56]
Megan Stalter
What is the new tattoo mean?
- [34:59]
Marc Maron
Yeah, well, I mean, it means that.
- [35:00]
Megan Stalter
He was shy about it.
- [35:02]
Marc Maron
Yeah, well, I mean, it means maybe he lives his life on the edge. He's a firefighter.
- [35:07]
Megan Stalter
Well, the person that you dated with the unfinished skulls.
- [35:10]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [35:10]
Megan Stalter
Could you at least tell they were skulls?
- [35:12]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [35:13]
Megan Stalter
Why didn't she get them finished?
- [35:15]
Marc Maron
I don't know. She was a little loopy.
- [35:17]
Megan Stalter
Okay.
- [35:17]
Marc Maron
And that's being diplomatic.
- [35:19]
Megan Stalter
Maybe they're together.
- [35:20]
Marc Maron
No, I doubt it. The woman I'm with now has got several. She's got a doggie, and she's got some other stuff.
- [35:27]
Megan Stalter
Like a dog.
- [35:28]
Marc Maron
She's had a dog she loves. Yeah. And a type of dog. She's a doggy person. But there's a bunch of other ones. I'd have to really think about what they are. It's so weird that you just get used to them.
- [35:39]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I know. I don't get them on my arms. I only have three. I have three, but they're on my legs because I'm like, oh, I'm an actor. I want to do less tattoo coverage. Then Kayla is always in a skirt on Hacks, so we're always doing it. But I have a bee with a wolf head. Like a wolf head. Like a rabbit. And then I have a tattoo that says baby Imma. And then there's a star, and I think people think it's like a Prince song. Well, it is, but it's not why I got it.
- [36:12]
Marc Maron
Oh. Are you happy with them?
- [36:13]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [36:14]
Marc Maron
I've only seen a few that I really like. I mean, some of them are cool.
- [36:17]
Megan Stalter
If you had your own, what would you get?
- [36:20]
Marc Maron
I don't know, man. Like, I. There was one. I knew a girl had a tattoo. It was just a little pineapple, and I thought that was nice.
- [36:26]
Megan Stalter
Well, doesn't that mean, like, threesomes, swingers or something?
- [36:31]
Marc Maron
I don't know. It wasn't.
- [36:32]
Megan Stalter
It does. It means swingers.
- [36:34]
Marc Maron
Pineapple.
- [36:35]
Megan Stalter
People used to put pineapples out to show their swingers.
- [36:38]
Marc Maron
Put them out where?
- [36:39]
Megan Stalter
I don't know. Around the house. Like, they. It would be like a signal. You'd have a party, there'd be a pineapple, like, light up.
- [36:47]
Marc Maron
I don't know if that was what it was.
- [36:48]
Megan Stalter
It is.
- [36:49]
Marc Maron
It's a long time ago. It's the 90s.
- [36:50]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. That's where it was prime, probably.
- [36:53]
Marc Maron
Oh, I missed the. I missed the sign.
- [36:55]
Megan Stalter
She was trying to swing.
- [36:56]
Marc Maron
Well, we weren't that kind of. We were just friends.
- [36:59]
Megan Stalter
Oh.
- [37:00]
Marc Maron
And then I knew a girl who had Winnie the Pooh with his head stuck in the honey pot. I really like that one.
- [37:06]
Megan Stalter
That's cute.
- [37:06]
Marc Maron
That's a good one.
- [37:07]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I don't think that means anything weird.
- [37:10]
Marc Maron
It just means, like, you know, take it easy.
- [37:14]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, it means, take it easy, have.
- [37:15]
Marc Maron
A snack, or just go easy on what you like.
- [37:19]
Megan Stalter
Oh, okay. Oh, I thought you meant, like, take it easy, have a snack.
- [37:25]
Marc Maron
No, no.
- [37:26]
Megan Stalter
Sort of like, you should take it easy.
- [37:27]
Marc Maron
You got your headset stuck in the. You honey addict.
- [37:30]
Megan Stalter
Also, I asked ChatGPT for any tips on the podcast.
- [37:34]
Marc Maron
For this one. Yeah, for you said Mark Marin's podcast.
- [37:37]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [37:37]
Marc Maron
What did it say?
- [37:37]
Megan Stalter
I said my name, too.
- [37:38]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [37:39]
Megan Stalter
Well, first of all, I want to say I'm not promoting ChatGPT because I.
- [37:42]
Marc Maron
Know I wouldn't Engage with seems really cool, but I'm not going to.
- [37:46]
Megan Stalter
It's really cool. But I will say use it sparingly because it's really bad for the environment. But that being said, I did put our names in and it told me, it told me that it's gonna be so electric because of our different personalities. But it said to show my vulnerable side. It said that you're gonna ask questions about anxiety and personal questions. And it said to hold back some of my wacky character but then surprise you with it. Isn't that creepy that it knows to do that?
- [38:20]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Well, are you gonna surprise me with the wacky character?
- [38:22]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. I can't wait to do my big impression later. But it said to show your vulnerable side. Oh, and it said you don't like PR talk.
- [38:32]
Marc Maron
Oh, interesting.
- [38:33]
Megan Stalter
Do you not not mind?
- [38:34]
Marc Maron
I mean, you know, we, we, we.
- [38:36]
Megan Stalter
It said you don't.
- [38:38]
Marc Maron
Well, I think the idea is that these are long form conversations that aren't hinged to what some people are promoting. Where does it pull together that information.
- [38:47]
Megan Stalter
From everything that it's ever. And I'm not trying to entice you. I know we shouldn't use it.
- [38:51]
Marc Maron
No, no, no.
- [38:51]
Megan Stalter
My friend should not use it. Don't use it. No.
- [38:53]
Marc Maron
My friend Lara, like, she has very specific dietary needs and she'll say, like, I have these ingredients. How do I make a thing? And it'll just tell you.
- [39:04]
Megan Stalter
Well, I don't want to make it seem like I use it too much. But if you take a picture of your animal, it will tell you about its aura.
- [39:12]
Marc Maron
Well, that. Really?
- [39:13]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, and it's really right.
- [39:14]
Marc Maron
Really?
- [39:15]
Megan Stalter
And you could put a picture of yourself in your face and you could say, pretend to be a Chinese medicine doctor and tell me like, what's wrong. And it's like fully accurate.
- [39:24]
Marc Maron
Come on.
- [39:25]
Megan Stalter
I know it's pulling from everything online. And also these are prompts I saw on TikTok. So like, I'm just saying what it's out there. I'm not saying to use it. Don't use ChatGPT. It's very, very bad for the environment. It's using a lot of water.
- [39:38]
Marc Maron
Have you ever asked it, why should I use chat GPT?
- [39:41]
Megan Stalter
No, that'd be interesting to have it.
- [39:44]
Marc Maron
Like have a little meltdown.
- [39:45]
Megan Stalter
I think you can. If you ask it like, why is it bad? It will tell you why it's bad about the water, how it uses it. Like it's fully just.
- [39:52]
Marc Maron
It's just like a person. Yeah. These are the reason why you shouldn't Date me.
- [39:54]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- [39:55]
Marc Maron
But like, I'm pretty cool.
- [39:57]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. But I could tell you about your animal's aura and I could read your poem. You could read your poem?
- [40:02]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [40:03]
Megan Stalter
But we shouldn't let it.
- [40:05]
Marc Maron
I'm not going to do it.
- [40:06]
Megan Stalter
Don't do it. If you're listening, I'm against it.
- [40:09]
Marc Maron
So how long. So you're a kid in Dayton.
- [40:11]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [40:12]
Marc Maron
How many brothers and sisters?
- [40:14]
Megan Stalter
So I have two sisters and a brother.
- [40:16]
Marc Maron
Really? It's a lot.
- [40:17]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. And I basically was kind of like.
- [40:21]
Marc Maron
Are you the youngest? The oldest?
- [40:22]
Megan Stalter
I'm the oldest.
- [40:23]
Marc Maron
Oh, really?
- [40:24]
Megan Stalter
Do I seem like older energy or younger?
- [40:28]
Marc Maron
Could go either way.
- [40:29]
Megan Stalter
If I'm with my siblings, I. You could tell I'm the oldest.
- [40:32]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [40:32]
Megan Stalter
Like, I'm very like, bossy to only them. Mothery. Bossy. But in my real life.
- [40:39]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [40:39]
Megan Stalter
I can be like sort of wild. Younger energy, younger sibling energy, but definitely very motherly. Yeah.
- [40:49]
Marc Maron
Was your mom around?
- [40:50]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [40:50]
Marc Maron
Oh, so you just kind of stepped in on occasion?
- [40:52]
Megan Stalter
I think it's. I just. I think I. I don't know what that is. It's an older daughter thing.
- [40:57]
Marc Maron
Like, how old is the youngest one?
- [40:59]
Megan Stalter
So my youngest sister is 22.
- [41:01]
Marc Maron
Oh, yeah.
- [41:02]
Megan Stalter
So. Or are they.
- [41:04]
Marc Maron
Are they still in Ohio?
- [41:06]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [41:06]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [41:06]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [41:07]
Marc Maron
You're the only one who got out?
- [41:08]
Megan Stalter
I'm the only one. Yeah. They're all in Ohio.
- [41:10]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [41:11]
Megan Stalter
And they. Yeah, my mom was. Is an amazing mother. My dad's amazing. I. They're not together, but I like, just was very bossy to them.
- [41:19]
Marc Maron
Sure. Well, yeah. I guess you. To fill in a little bit if they're separate, I guess back and forth.
- [41:24]
Megan Stalter
Well, I guess like I did babysit, like. And maybe it's just my. Your personality. When you're the oldest, you just feel like you're. You're a mom's like, like helper. You're like, sure. You're the one that like, is babysitting the rest.
- [41:36]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah.
- [41:36]
Megan Stalter
If, like when you're.
- [41:37]
Marc Maron
Watch out for.
- [41:38]
Megan Stalter
When you're a teenager, make sure that.
- [41:39]
Marc Maron
One doesn't eat something rad.
- [41:41]
Megan Stalter
And I also. It's my personality because I was always really like, like cannot do anything bad. Like, my cousins would smoke and I would be in the closet so I wouldn't see them smoke. So that if my mom asked me if they were smoking, I could say no, like psychotic. And then I still couldn't lie. So I'd be like, stop asking me, please. Yeah. Position really anxious.
- [42:04]
Marc Maron
I like the, The. The way of kind of getting around it. Like you know, I'm just going to go in closet. That's a little crazy.
- [42:12]
Megan Stalter
It's very crazy because I still would be lying if she's like, are they smoking? She knew I wasn't.
- [42:16]
Marc Maron
Yeah. And you should say, I don't know. I was in the closet.
- [42:19]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. I was like, please stop asking me. This is so unfair. I can't help believe you're doing this to me. And they're like, okay. So they were like, otherwise you just say no.
- [42:27]
Marc Maron
Oh, yeah. How long? But, like, how long's your dad been a tattoo guy?
- [42:32]
Megan Stalter
Since I was probably, like six or seven, maybe seven or eight.
- [42:35]
Marc Maron
So he's in it early. So you got full sleeves and everything.
- [42:39]
Megan Stalter
He has, yeah. He has tattoos everywhere. But it's one of those things where I don't. I. If you said, like, what tattoos does he have? He has so many.
- [42:45]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Like, does he ever do his own?
- [42:49]
Megan Stalter
No. People do their own, though, don't they?
- [42:53]
Marc Maron
I don't know.
- [42:54]
Megan Stalter
I think stick and poke. I have a friend that's done a stick and poke on himself.
- [42:58]
Marc Maron
Like a gel tattoo.
- [43:00]
Megan Stalter
Is that what they're called?
- [43:01]
Marc Maron
I don't know. With the needle?
- [43:02]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [43:02]
Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah. I think that's, like, old school.
- [43:05]
Megan Stalter
Old school. You could do that, I guess, on your.
- [43:06]
Marc Maron
So you grew up in tattoo culture?
- [43:08]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. I mean, I remember him doing, like. And, like, working at a tattoo shop, just starting out, like, learning how to do it, like, and now he has his own shop, and my brother's learned how to do it.
- [43:18]
Marc Maron
Are they all good? Do they have their own, like, way of doing it?
- [43:21]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [43:22]
Marc Maron
Did they study different forms?
- [43:24]
Megan Stalter
I think it's like. I feel like it's like you. Well, my brother did go to different art programs in school.
- [43:29]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [43:30]
Megan Stalter
But I think it's like you learn by doing it on pigskin.
- [43:35]
Marc Maron
Oh, really?
- [43:36]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. And I think then you just start doing it.
- [43:39]
Marc Maron
I just don't know what you can live with. My brother got a bunch of tattoos, and none of them are good.
- [43:43]
Megan Stalter
Really?
- [43:43]
Marc Maron
Yeah, he's just, like. It was impulsive and, like, he's got one on his back. It's like that he just saw on the wall. And I'm like, dude, like, what is that?
- [43:51]
Megan Stalter
No, I have to really think about it.
- [43:55]
Marc Maron
Yeah. So what are. When did your parents get a divorce? How.
- [44:00]
Megan Stalter
You were young, probably when. Yeah, like, when I was 8. Oh, yeah.
- [44:03]
Marc Maron
And then you had to go back and forth.
- [44:06]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. I mean, it's so crazy when. It's when you're little because you're just like, oh, that's like, you just don't even remember.
- [44:11]
Marc Maron
That's the way it is.
- [44:12]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [44:13]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [44:13]
Megan Stalter
And I also think so many people's parents got a divorce.
- [44:17]
Marc Maron
Yeah, of course.
- [44:18]
Megan Stalter
So it's so, like, normal. And then it's like, oh, I don't even really remember. Like, it's all living together.
- [44:24]
Marc Maron
Right.
- [44:25]
Megan Stalter
I have some memory of it.
- [44:27]
Marc Maron
But do you remember, like, you and, like, all the little ones, like, going off for the weekend to different houses?
- [44:33]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I definitely remember, like, being at my dad's a lot, but we lived with my mom.
- [44:38]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [44:38]
Megan Stalter
And what'd she do? So she's a nurse, but she's very funny nurse. They're both very funny. Like, my dad's sense of humor. He'd show us a lot of, like, Pee Wee Herman and Divine.
- [44:49]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah.
- [44:50]
Megan Stalter
And like, weird stuff.
- [44:51]
Marc Maron
Nurses have to have a good sense of humor.
- [44:53]
Megan Stalter
She's so funny. She's like, like, me funny.
- [44:55]
Marc Maron
Yeah. And what kind of nurse?
- [44:59]
Megan Stalter
Labor and delivery.
- [45:01]
Marc Maron
Really?
- [45:01]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. And so it's like. I mean, that's really intense.
- [45:04]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [45:05]
Megan Stalter
And I went. So before I did comedy, I always wanted to perform. Like, I always wanted to be an actor.
- [45:11]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [45:11]
Megan Stalter
But when. Before I was like, okay, like, I didn't have any money. I couldn't just, like, move to LA and audition. So I was in school and I was taking, like, nursing classes.
- [45:20]
Marc Maron
You think about doing it?
- [45:21]
Megan Stalter
I think I was like, I want to help people if I can't do what I really want to do.
- [45:25]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [45:25]
Megan Stalter
So I was like, in teaching classes and nursing classes, I was really bad at school. And, like, I was finally like, I have to just do what I want to do.
- [45:33]
Marc Maron
What happened?
- [45:35]
Megan Stalter
I started taking, like, an improv class.
- [45:37]
Marc Maron
Like, why'd you turn on nursing?
- [45:38]
Megan Stalter
I just was. I couldn't. I. Well, so when my sister gave birth, I passed out. So I was like, I don't know if I could do it. I don't think they could have the nurses passing out, but I think I'd be a good nurse, personality wise. Oh, yeah. Definitely fun, sweet. But the blood and the, like.
- [45:55]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [45:56]
Megan Stalter
I'm like, I don't think I could do it. I mean, I don't know.
- [45:59]
Marc Maron
I'm such a kind of limited adult because I don't have kids. I don't know. There would be no situation where I'd be watching someone give birth.
- [46:10]
Megan Stalter
Okay. Okay.
- [46:11]
Marc Maron
But people just do it. They do it every day.
- [46:14]
Megan Stalter
I don't know how people. It's pretty scary.
- [46:16]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [46:17]
Megan Stalter
Like, I think if I was pregnant, I definitely want kids one day to Adopt. But if I was pregnant, I think I would be nervous every day about the period.
- [46:28]
Marc Maron
I think people are.
- [46:29]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. But it's incredible. And I heard you can't. You don't even really remember the pain. I think I would, though.
- [46:35]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [46:36]
Megan Stalter
What job would you have if you weren't doing what you're doing?
- [46:40]
Marc Maron
I don't know. Maybe I'd be a professor.
- [46:44]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I could see that.
- [46:45]
Marc Maron
Yeah. I don't know of what.
- [46:47]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. What would it be?
- [46:48]
Marc Maron
You know, Mark related stuff. Maybe I could become a professor after I get done in my mid-60s and teach a class on me. I could see that because I've done enough stuff.
- [46:58]
Megan Stalter
But couldn't you do like a comedy, like, class? Yeah, sure.
- [47:03]
Marc Maron
I don't really think.
- [47:04]
Megan Stalter
Have you ever done that?
- [47:05]
Marc Maron
Oh, teach comedy.
- [47:06]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [47:06]
Marc Maron
No, because who the hell wants to do it like me? There's. I'm no, I'm no blueprint for success.
- [47:11]
Megan Stalter
Your class.
- [47:13]
Marc Maron
Yeah, but I mean. But I can only teach what I do and I can't. You know, I'm. I'm like, I'm not a household name or anything. You are in the certain households.
- [47:23]
Megan Stalter
You can't teach people to be funny, but you can teach them how to write, right? Probably, yeah.
- [47:28]
Marc Maron
But I'm not. I'm not a great joke writer. Like, I just. Like, I do. Like I do what I do and jokes evolve.
- [47:34]
Megan Stalter
You're writing as you're saying it.
- [47:37]
Marc Maron
That's right.
- [47:38]
Megan Stalter
So that's something that you're born with.
- [47:40]
Marc Maron
That's the first class. Yeah. Just think of some funny stuff and then go try it. And if it doesn't work and you still believe in it, try it a different way.
- [47:47]
Megan Stalter
I try to do stand up. Like classic, like, joke telling. Stand up.
- [47:52]
Marc Maron
Yeah. You're too unbounded.
- [47:54]
Megan Stalter
It was too restricting. It was like my stuff's very like, Persona. Crazy person on stage. Like, I have a show that's all. All about me running for president. So it's like a fake political rally.
- [48:09]
Marc Maron
That's a live show.
- [48:10]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [48:10]
Marc Maron
Okay.
- [48:11]
Megan Stalter
And so it's kind of more like I'm being this. Like the whole story is like I'm a really rich actor who now wants to run to be president. It's very, like, making fun of Trump.
- [48:21]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [48:22]
Megan Stalter
And that's the kind of stuff I could write. But if I tried to. When I first started doing stand up to be like, guys, they're selling beer at Chuck E. Cheese. Wouldn't it be crazy if you're a mom at Chuck E. Cheese drunk. Here's my Impression, like. And it was not.
- [48:40]
Marc Maron
So it was all impression driven. That's what you mean? Not all.
- [48:42]
Megan Stalter
But I tried to do stories. I tried to like add in, but I wasn't.
- [48:46]
Marc Maron
It wasn't your thing?
- [48:48]
Megan Stalter
It was hard.
- [48:48]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [48:49]
Megan Stalter
It was making me feel cringe when I was trying to do it.
- [48:52]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah.
- [48:52]
Megan Stalter
But watching it's not cringe.
- [48:54]
Marc Maron
I don't like. I don't like the cringe feeling, but.
- [48:56]
Megan Stalter
I like watching that kind of comedy.
- [48:57]
Marc Maron
I know, but that's. Cause they're doing it with confidence. Yeah, but like that, that feeling of like failing bad.
- [49:03]
Megan Stalter
Of being like. Oh the. Yeah. I don't know.
- [49:09]
Marc Maron
But when do you just start? When did you decide to pursue it? Like shortly after you passed out when your sister had a baby.
- [49:15]
Megan Stalter
So I was in college, in and out of different classes. I did a lot of missionary work.
- [49:21]
Marc Maron
Were you a religious person?
- [49:22]
Megan Stalter
So I say that I'm a God girl. Like I love God and still and. Yeah. And. But I was really like. I think I was really involved in my church and I don't go to church now, but I.
- [49:35]
Marc Maron
Did you grow up with it heavy?
- [49:37]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [49:37]
Marc Maron
Oh yeah. Like what kind? Which church?
- [49:39]
Megan Stalter
Like, I was. I like kind of grew up in a Pentecostal church.
- [49:44]
Marc Maron
Really?
- [49:44]
Megan Stalter
And then in high school I got really involved in like a non denominational, like cool. Like pizza. Pizza party. Like youth church? Yeah, like youth group.
- [49:56]
Marc Maron
But Pentecostal, was that like, you know, fire and brimstone?
- [49:58]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [49:59]
Marc Maron
Passionate pastor.
- [50:01]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [50:01]
Marc Maron
Preacher guy.
- [50:02]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. It's like speaking in tongues.
- [50:04]
Marc Maron
Like you did that?
- [50:05]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. You know, I saw a comment today on a.
- [50:09]
Marc Maron
You should do a whole character just speaking in tongues.
- [50:12]
Megan Stalter
Well, it's really interesting because I feel like if I. Since I grew up around it, it's not scary to me, but I know that it's scary to watch if you hadn't or experienced it. It's very supernatural and I know some people fake it and it's like people make fun of it. But it's interesting cause I remember seeing it when I was a baby, when I was little. So it's really interesting to grow up with that. And then in high school, the church I went to definitely believed in all of that. And I did something called ywam, which is like a Bible school kind of. But it's interesting because when I realized I was a queer person and was kind of not going to church, I feel even closer to God because I feel like I am who I really am.
- [51:08]
Marc Maron
Who you're supposed to be.
- [51:09]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. And I feel like it's confusing to people to have, I guess, like, a Christian, gay, but Democrat, like, independent person. I think it's confusing. I was on a podcast and I saw a clip today, and someone commented, like, she's a fake ally. She's a Christian fake ally and a horrible actress. And I'm like, well, I have, like, a girlfriend who I'm very committed to. Like, I am fully. Like, I'm bi, but mostly lesbian. Like, I, like, not. I'm not just an ally. I'm literally part of the community.
- [51:47]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [51:47]
Megan Stalter
But I think it's confusing to people, which I get because the church has hurt a lot of people, I think.
- [51:51]
Marc Maron
Well, it's confusing because there are different strands of political and religious ideology. But I think if you break it down to the spirit of Christ or the belief in one's individuality and connection to God, why not do that without judgment? I think people get hung up on the Bible, and you know what they kind of think the rules are.
- [52:18]
Megan Stalter
Well, and it is really painful when a church doesn't accept gay people.
- [52:23]
Marc Maron
But also, the people that are doing that post are theoretically on your side.
- [52:28]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, yeah.
- [52:29]
Marc Maron
And they're like this fuck you for being Christian period, where without appreciating the spectrum of possibility within Christian belief.
- [52:37]
Megan Stalter
Right. Where I'm like, I just think we're supposed to love God and love each other, take care of each other, like. And so I'm like, how is that bad?
- [52:44]
Marc Maron
Yeah. End of story.
- [52:45]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, end of story.
- [52:46]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah. Well, people are interesting. Horrible.
- [52:50]
Megan Stalter
Horrible. And I think they're like, she's lying. She's actually a Christian. I'm like, I'm not lying. I literally will tell you. I say I'm a gagirl all the time, and I love women. And having.
- [53:01]
Marc Maron
Like, you're some sort of. Yeah. Like you're some covert operative, you know, on the inside.
- [53:08]
Megan Stalter
Like, someone caught me or something.
- [53:10]
Marc Maron
What would be the point of that?
- [53:11]
Megan Stalter
I don't. I know. I think if. I think, like. I think people do it with, like, Trump stuff. Like, by the way, this person you're following is a Trump supporter, I guess. But that's not. I'm not. And that's not what they are saying. So I'm like, is that what they were trying to do? To be like.
- [53:25]
Marc Maron
But how. How was it to. To sort of, like, come. Was there a period where kind of, you know, coming to terms with your sexuality and in relation to the religion, challenging.
- [53:41]
Megan Stalter
Well, it's interesting because I just didn't know that about myself when I was in church and I would go to church now if I had one. Yeah. Like, I think when you're bi, you're like, well, I like guys. And I'm supposed. Like, people think you're supposed to if you're a woman. So I guess I'm straight.
- [53:57]
Marc Maron
Right.
- [53:57]
Megan Stalter
And then I think it was just me, like, actually, like, going after what I really wanted to do, which was performing.
- [54:04]
Marc Maron
And then, like, oh, so that's when you got out from under the family and the church.
- [54:09]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I kind of was like, oh, I'm like. Kind of like, I'm living at home still. I kind of was, like, a late, like, bloomer. Like, I lived at home, like, till I was, like, 23.
- [54:19]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [54:19]
Megan Stalter
And so I kind of, like, wasn't really dating.
- [54:21]
Marc Maron
And you. And you had a church going family.
- [54:24]
Megan Stalter
I was actually the one that was, like, bringing people to church. My mom always went. But, like, I was the one, like, in high school being like, come on, like, we're getting involved. Like, yeah, I was, like, in just.
- [54:37]
Marc Maron
I think always the same church.
- [54:39]
Megan Stalter
In high school, it was different than the one I grew up in. I think I just always had God. But in high school, I felt like I really fell in love, like, with God and, like, with the whole experience and community. And I didn't know I was gay. And then when I was like, I'm gonna move and do comedy, I think I just was learning more about myself and started dating more seriously. I kind of dated, but not, like, wasn't my focus.
- [55:02]
Marc Maron
So you moved to where? Chicago. To Chicago when you were 23?
- [55:05]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [55:05]
Marc Maron
And what drove you to do that? Did you do some comedy in Dayton?
- [55:09]
Megan Stalter
I did. I did, like. I did an improv class at an improv theater and then started doing standup. And the guy at the theater was kind of weird and, like, was very much, like, had the theater so he could perform.
- [55:23]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [55:24]
Megan Stalter
And he was kind of like, you're gonna be crawling back to me to take these classes after. Yeah. I'm like, all right, see ya.
- [55:30]
Marc Maron
But failed coat leader.
- [55:32]
Megan Stalter
That's what it felt like, kind of. And then I did comedy for seven, eight years in Chicago.
- [55:39]
Marc Maron
Really? Like, who were the people around at that time? Anyone is still out here. Some people do.
- [55:47]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. You know, I feel like I'm trying to think of the people, like, that just left. Like, the people that were right before me.
- [55:54]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [55:54]
Megan Stalter
I feel like they were, like, Megan Gailey, Lisa Traeger, like, and then I feel like. I feel like the people. A lot of guys that are still there, I feel.
- [56:04]
Marc Maron
Were you doing like the log cabin. Is that what the name of that place is?
- [56:07]
Megan Stalter
The Lincoln Lodge.
- [56:08]
Marc Maron
Yeah, Lincoln Lodge.
- [56:09]
Megan Stalter
I did. It was, like, such a big deal to be, like. Everyone wanted to be, like, a cast member. And then I finally got to be towards the last couple years.
- [56:18]
Marc Maron
At the Lincoln Lodge.
- [56:19]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, at the Lincoln.
- [56:19]
Marc Maron
It was an improv situation.
- [56:21]
Megan Stalter
No. Cause I did stand up, too, but I did, like, weird stand up.
- [56:25]
Marc Maron
Right. Okay. Character driven.
- [56:27]
Megan Stalter
Character driven. So they let me. I was like, the weird.
- [56:29]
Marc Maron
Oh, good. Yeah, you're the weirdo. She does the thing with the different voices.
- [56:33]
Megan Stalter
I came up with Sarah Sherman, one of my close, close friends.
- [56:36]
Marc Maron
She's great.
- [56:37]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [56:38]
Marc Maron
Yeah. She always tells me she's the best. Yeah. She's like, I'll be in la. And I'm like, you want to do the show? And then I won't hear from her for months.
- [56:43]
Megan Stalter
She's literally my favorite.
- [56:45]
Marc Maron
No, she's great.
- [56:46]
Megan Stalter
So funny.
- [56:46]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [56:47]
Megan Stalter
And so, like, I was kind of coming along with her, and she was in Chicago. Yeah.
- [56:51]
Marc Maron
Oh, okay.
- [56:51]
Megan Stalter
She was, like, the same time as me.
- [56:53]
Marc Maron
Oh, wow.
- [56:53]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [56:54]
Marc Maron
So they had two weirdos.
- [56:55]
Megan Stalter
They had two weirdo. Weird freaks.
- [56:59]
Marc Maron
But did you do improv as well?
- [57:01]
Megan Stalter
I did. So I did, like, Second City, but I didn't fully fit in. I felt a little too weird and, like, really behaving. They like weird stuff, but I think I was, at the time, like, a little too weird.
- [57:12]
Marc Maron
Oh, yeah.
- [57:14]
Megan Stalter
I fit in really well with, like, the annoyance crowd.
- [57:17]
Marc Maron
Okay.
- [57:17]
Megan Stalter
I did IO Like, I did every. I spent all my money on improv classes.
- [57:22]
Marc Maron
But you earned.
- [57:23]
Megan Stalter
And I learned. I loved Second City. It's a little more, like, structured, like. Like, the way they write their shows and stuff. So I just didn't, like, feel like it was. I felt a little bit, like, weird. But also there's weird people that love it there, too and feel accepted.
- [57:38]
Marc Maron
Did you put your own group together?
- [57:40]
Megan Stalter
I did that. I mean, I. I wrote a lot of sketch shows with different groups. Yeah, I did. Like, I didn't do the conservatory at Second City, but I did, like, the first full program there.
- [57:52]
Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [57:53]
Megan Stalter
And then did. Yeah. It was like, a lot of.
- [57:55]
Marc Maron
So during that time, you came into yourself and you negotiated with God.
- [58:02]
Megan Stalter
I just never felt ever judged by God about it. Like, I never felt convicted about it in that way. I had only felt like, oh, or is my cousin gonna say something weird?
- [58:12]
Marc Maron
Or, like, never, God, though.
- [58:14]
Megan Stalter
Never God. And never. My parents, like, I feel very lucky.
- [58:17]
Marc Maron
And they were good.
- [58:18]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. My mom was like, oh, I thought you only liked women.
- [58:21]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [58:22]
Megan Stalter
And I was like, oh, I didn't even know I was coming off like that.
- [58:26]
Marc Maron
What are you saying, Mom?
- [58:27]
Megan Stalter
I liked it. I thought it was such a good conference. I'm like, what? How did you know? Because I definitely didn't.
- [58:33]
Marc Maron
It seems funny when parents are just waiting for you to come around to tell them, and they're like, yeah, well, yeah, of course.
- [58:39]
Megan Stalter
I don't think I ever seemed as interested in guys as, like, my sister or, like, her or, like, other people in our family. Like, I think, like, I didn't come across as the someone who, like, thought it was important to have a boyfriend.
- [58:51]
Marc Maron
Right. Right.
- [58:51]
Megan Stalter
And, like, I think that's, like, pretty normal for, like, straight women to, like, want a boyfriend. I think that probably made her feel that way.
- [58:59]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Well, yeah, it makes sense.
- [59:01]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [59:02]
Marc Maron
So when does it start to work out?
- [59:05]
Megan Stalter
I think I was probably really bad for, like, three or four years in Chicago. I think I always thought I was really good.
- [59:12]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [59:12]
Megan Stalter
But I think it was probably bad for at least two years. And then I think I actually remember a show that I did, something that worked, and it was like, I did a PowerPoint presentation as a show as, like, for my set. And I think that was, like, wait, I could do, like, other things, like, whatever I want.
- [59:30]
Marc Maron
What were you doing for money?
- [59:31]
Megan Stalter
I was a nanny.
- [59:33]
Marc Maron
Really?
- [59:33]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [59:34]
Marc Maron
Do you have to get a license for that?
- [59:36]
Megan Stalter
You don't get a license. You just get. You just form a bond and they trust you.
- [59:41]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [59:42]
Megan Stalter
And I think I was. Maybe it helped that I, like, babysat a lot and, like, went to school.
- [59:48]
Marc Maron
How many families?
- [59:50]
Megan Stalter
I had one family I worked with for, like, five years. I'm so bonded to them. And the other family I worked for for, like, a year or so, and I was bonded to them. It was like, I. I still see them. Like, I literally feel like they were my kids in another lifetime. Like, I can't wait to be a mom. I loved those kids.
- [60:08]
Marc Maron
Like, and you were part of their life for a long time, so they know they're gonna know you forever.
- [60:12]
Megan Stalter
I was really depressed. Depressed when I left the job.
- [60:14]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [60:15]
Megan Stalter
Like, I was really, like, really, like, what do I do? I saw them every day, all day.
- [60:20]
Marc Maron
What'd you do? Why'd you leave?
- [60:22]
Megan Stalter
They were getting. They were getting older, and I still needed money.
- [60:28]
Marc Maron
If you were there, they were in high school.
- [60:30]
Megan Stalter
Hey, what's up.
- [60:34]
Marc Maron
Mom? When's the nanny gonna go?
- [60:36]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, like, she's hanging around. I think the little ones friends didn't know I was, like, paid to be with them. They were like, oh, it's like, yeah.
- [60:44]
Marc Maron
Like the business operates the situation. Yeah, but that's so nice that they know you. So you hear from them now they see you on tv.
- [60:51]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, well, I think they're not, some of them aren't old enough to watch that, but I think they show them like weird commercials. I. The older ones watch, so it's probably bizarre.
- [61:04]
Marc Maron
So. But when do you kind of make your break? How does that happen? Did you start because, like, you came up in a world that's not like my world. You didn't. It wasn't on tv, you weren't doing talk shows, you weren't doing comedy clubs.
- [61:17]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. I feel like before it used to be like you'd have to get like a manager from like doing a festival. Right.
- [61:22]
Marc Maron
Or like, well, just somewhere somehow to get into show business because it was, you know, a specific path. But then all of a sudden it all broke open and you're kind of of that generation where it's kind of on you.
- [61:33]
Megan Stalter
I feel very lucky. I. I think it just happened where I started posting. I did like, I started posting some videos online and I had on Instagram. Yeah. I have this fake YouTube talk show, the Megan Stalter show, that helped me, I think, get a manager.
- [61:48]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [61:49]
Megan Stalter
And then I think it helped me, like I was meeting comedians. Helped me too. Like, they put you on their shows when you go to New York.
- [61:56]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [61:56]
Megan Stalter
I feel like I did like Cat Cohen show and like that helped me just be like, oh, I'm in New York. This show's amazing and so fun. Maybe I want to live here one day. I feel like your friends, like the three busy Deborahs, I felt like had my manager and helped me.
- [62:11]
Marc Maron
Oh yeah.
- [62:12]
Megan Stalter
But what happened was during COVID I was posting a lot of videos and I was going Instagram live every night with a new theme. It'd be like, we're going to Paris tonight. And I'd be in a beret and it would. That's why, like, people saw my stuff because I was going Instagram live every night with like a crazy. It'd be like, it's. It's Disney orientation and I'm gonna hire you to work at Disney. And it'd be literally like two hours of improv.
- [62:39]
Marc Maron
You'd just be riffing, just improv ing. Yeah, I did Instagram Lives and I still think I got a lot of audience from that. But, you know. Yeah, but like, mostly like, I think a lot of middle aged women who are kind of angry and creative.
- [62:54]
Megan Stalter
Interesting. Yeah.
- [62:55]
Marc Maron
They Kind of locked into like whatever my vibe was at the time.
- [63:00]
Megan Stalter
Do you feel like your fans are mostly women that are mad?
- [63:04]
Marc Maron
No, I just think there's a. There was a sensitivity because I wasn't really doing set pieces or comedy. I would just sit on my porch and almost run like a daily, you know, kind of chat show with myself.
- [63:15]
Megan Stalter
I see. Yeah.
- [63:15]
Marc Maron
I'd walk around the house and they got to know my cats and I'd play records for them and I was going through some tragedy, a loss at the time and they kind of locked into that and. And then. But eventually they. People get too weird.
- [63:32]
Megan Stalter
People in the comments get weird.
- [63:34]
Marc Maron
Well, they just, they develop a parasocial relationship.
- [63:37]
Megan Stalter
Oh yeah.
- [63:38]
Marc Maron
And that got a little intense for me. I think.
- [63:41]
Megan Stalter
You felt. Did. Would they message you and you. Okay. Like I don't know this person?
- [63:45]
Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah. That kind of stuff.
- [63:46]
Megan Stalter
There's a group of people that met through my Instagram live that are best friends.
- [63:50]
Marc Maron
Well, that's nice.
- [63:51]
Megan Stalter
And I thought that was pretty nice and sweet. Like that made me feel good.
- [63:55]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [63:55]
Megan Stalter
Some messages, of course feel weird.
- [63:57]
Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta not read them. Right. But it's hard not to. Cause you want to.
- [64:04]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I think.
- [64:04]
Marc Maron
But you did that the whole, the whole pandemic and that built an audience for you. You became like a phenomenon.
- [64:10]
Megan Stalter
I think that helped me like definitely helped me do like weird like brand deals. And then I definitely feel like for hacks, they saw my videos. But I also really hit it off with Paul at like a stand up show.
- [64:24]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [64:24]
Megan Stalter
And I think that helped me. I did not send a good audition tape for hacks. It's really badly shot, very blurry, horrible outfit, dogs barking in the background. But maybe it's like very Kayla of me to send.
- [64:38]
Marc Maron
Very funny character.
- [64:40]
Megan Stalter
Thank you.
- [64:40]
Marc Maron
And you're still doing all the live shows?
- [64:42]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [64:43]
Marc Maron
And how is your anxiety level?
- [64:46]
Megan Stalter
I will say that I have developed a shaky hand. I feel very anxious. But I also have learned a lot about relaxation in the last couple months. That has helped. I feel like very anxious. I'm not on medication, but I've done acupuncture recently. Yeah, that's helped. I've gotten like back massages where before I never would do that. And I feel like it helps my anxiety.
- [65:14]
Marc Maron
Well, what's it have you always had it? You know, I'm only talking about this because Chat GPT gp.
- [65:19]
Megan Stalter
I know. I knew that you would say this because of what.
- [65:23]
Marc Maron
But I talk about anxiety a lot lately.
- [65:25]
Megan Stalter
Oh, well, chatgpt knows.
- [65:26]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Because I've been dealing with. I've had it all my life. But now it's been very specific lately.
- [65:32]
Megan Stalter
Why do you think it's been so like. I feel that too. Just like what's going on in the world makes you anxious, you feel.
- [65:39]
Marc Maron
No, I think what my brain does is that it realizes the world is, you know, frightening and, you know, a real reason to be anxious or scared. But I think my brain's sort of like, well, we can create more anxiety just in your life and that'll counter the anxiety.
- [65:57]
Megan Stalter
I do feel my anxiety comes from personal stuff that is not like a big deal. Like, personal, like, I could definitely like, loop in my head about like, did I say I should have. I should apologize for this thing because, like, oh, I missed this text. Should I say sorry about missing the text or should I just talk about something else in the text? Like, I definitely have, like, adhd.
- [66:20]
Marc Maron
Well, that's what some people think I have, but I do, like, sort of like, oh, like I get a lot of dread.
- [66:25]
Megan Stalter
Okay.
- [66:25]
Marc Maron
Of like, you're not. Not even. Because I'm scared of something. But it's like, oh, I gotta do that thing tomorrow. Oh my God. It's not even not wanting to do it. It's just sort of like. It's like, it's gonna happen, man.
- [66:38]
Megan Stalter
Have you tried acupuncture?
- [66:40]
Marc Maron
Yeah, at different points in my life.
- [66:41]
Megan Stalter
You didn't like, reasons.
- [66:42]
Marc Maron
It's okay.
- [66:43]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [66:44]
Marc Maron
Or else I'll just. I'll start to get paranoid about stuff and just loop that shit.
- [66:48]
Megan Stalter
You know what you have to do with acupuncture, though? You have to be ready for like. No, like, being open to it really working you like your self. Talk really changes it. If you're ready to have like, I'm going to ascend and be like, floating during this. It. It really does make you feel.
- [67:04]
Marc Maron
Sure. But how does that help me?
- [67:05]
Megan Stalter
Like this morning because you feel so relaxed after.
- [67:08]
Marc Maron
But what are you going every day?
- [67:11]
Megan Stalter
You go every day? No, no, you can't go every day. You go once a week. If you really need it, though. If you have the luxury. I found a pretty affordable place.
- [67:20]
Marc Maron
Yeah? Yeah.
- [67:21]
Megan Stalter
I don't know, but. Or back massages.
- [67:24]
Marc Maron
I have a buddy, his wife's an acupuncturist. I went there once. I'm crying for. I had some pain. She wanted to give it a try.
- [67:29]
Megan Stalter
It's very scary at first.
- [67:31]
Marc Maron
I did it years ago in San Francisco for like, trying to quit smoking and. No, I felt it, like, it definitely knocks you out. Walking helps I do a lot of exercise. I'm okay. I've lived with it my whole life.
- [67:43]
Megan Stalter
And you take medicine?
- [67:44]
Marc Maron
I just started taking a little bit of medicine.
- [67:46]
Megan Stalter
What does it feel like? I've always been interested but scared.
- [67:49]
Marc Maron
Well, I'm not taking a heavy one. I'm not taking, like, an ssri. I'm taking a very specific thing that. It doesn't work for a lot of people. It's like a 50. 50 chance.
- [67:59]
Megan Stalter
Oh, interesting.
- [68:00]
Marc Maron
It's only for anxiety.
- [68:02]
Megan Stalter
Has it helped?
- [68:03]
Marc Maron
I think so. I think it's. It stopped some of the looping.
- [68:06]
Megan Stalter
Do you sleep well?
- [68:07]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [68:08]
Megan Stalter
Okay. Because I was gonna say sleeping makes me. If I don't get enough sleep, I get anxious.
- [68:12]
Marc Maron
I don't sleep a lot, but I sleep well.
- [68:14]
Megan Stalter
You drink a lot of coffee, though. Yeah, that could be it. That could increase your anxiety.
- [68:19]
Marc Maron
Yeah, I'm on coffee. I'm on the nicotine pouches.
- [68:21]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, that can help you.
- [68:22]
Marc Maron
I know. It's so funny. I just don't. I just kind of look past that. I'm like, coffee.
- [68:27]
Megan Stalter
Coffee makes me so shaky. I could barely drink it, even though I love it. But I'm shaking like a leaf. I could literally, like, pass out.
- [68:36]
Marc Maron
I don't want to.
- [68:36]
Megan Stalter
I know, but that. It. That really, like.
- [68:39]
Marc Maron
Yeah, but I've been. I've been off everything before, and then it's just sort of like, well, why? What's the point of life?
- [68:46]
Megan Stalter
I love coffee. I have to still have some in the morning. But it's. I will say if I don't eat enough food with it, I will be shaking and anxious and feeling like I'm gonna pass out.
- [68:55]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Just everything, like, if I don't do. If I don't do it. I know. And, like. And I used to do real dreams drugs, and I haven't done those.
- [69:00]
Megan Stalter
Doesn't coffee feel like a drug, though? Kind of.
- [69:02]
Marc Maron
It is a drug.
- [69:03]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, it is.
- [69:04]
Marc Maron
Yeah. I mean, but it's not gonna ruin my life, right? You know, And I don't have to go to some bad neighborhood to get it.
- [69:10]
Megan Stalter
Exactly. That's what. It's like a drug they're selling at, like, cafes.
- [69:14]
Marc Maron
Of course. Yeah. It's a drug everybody can have. Well, now, weed's like that, too, but I can't do that.
- [69:19]
Megan Stalter
I would not be good on weed.
- [69:21]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [69:22]
Megan Stalter
I don't do anything. I don't drink. I don't do drugs.
- [69:24]
Marc Maron
I'm sober. Do anything I used to.
- [69:27]
Megan Stalter
Well, see, I never agreed with me.
- [69:28]
Marc Maron
Yeah, that's a nice way to look at it, like, you know, it's an acquired taste. Not for me.
- [69:34]
Megan Stalter
It feels like it would be nice, the idea. Oh, it could be fun. No, it's not fun. And it's also poison and no one should do it. What, drugs, drugs, alcohol?
- [69:42]
Marc Maron
Yeah, it's kind of none of it. Yeah, but. But so you manage it. Yeah. I don't know. I just got to this point, like, at my age, where I think a lot of it is just stuff that doesn't serve me anymore in a way, you know, Like, I know why I was panicky earlier, but in my life. But, you know, things worked out okay and I can't seem to let him be okay. That's the other thing you're up against old you.
- [70:03]
Megan Stalter
Do you feel like your anxiety has gotten worse? Like, since you said you've always had.
- [70:08]
Marc Maron
It, or like, you know, it's gotten better, but it's gotten more specific, like, because I can logically see, like, well, this thing worked out. You don't have to worry about this. Like, there's a list of things that. That are okay that weren't always okay. So why are you still freaking out?
- [70:25]
Megan Stalter
It's so interesting. What?
- [70:26]
Marc Maron
Because.
- [70:27]
Megan Stalter
Topics that you freak out about.
- [70:31]
Marc Maron
Let's see. Well, like you said, there. There. There's things that, like, I've said or I've done and I'm like, oh, yeah, how did that. Like, what is that person thinking?
- [70:40]
Megan Stalter
What is it? Little stuff, though. It's like how I said something. They're taking it. Yeah. A certain way.
- [70:44]
Marc Maron
Yeah. And. But like, I can spiral about that or my cats, like, when I'm away, like, oh, no, something gonna happen.
- [70:49]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [70:50]
Marc Maron
But like, it's all. It's all stuff your head's making up. I mean, yeah, it's possible, but it's not necessarily. It's not problem.
- [70:57]
Megan Stalter
It doesn't do us any good to worry about.
- [70:59]
Marc Maron
I know, but my brain doesn't like to not be engaged. I should do something better with it.
- [71:06]
Megan Stalter
Does it help to go on a walk if you feel that way?
- [71:08]
Marc Maron
Kinda. I find if I don't exercise. But more so I just feel uncomfortable in my body more than the mental things. Like if I don't. If I don't, you know, exercise, it feels sedentary.
- [71:21]
Megan Stalter
Oh, yeah.
- [71:21]
Marc Maron
I just feel like one clot on my fucking skin.
- [71:24]
Megan Stalter
A little walk always cures a lot for me.
- [71:27]
Marc Maron
Oh, good.
- [71:28]
Megan Stalter
But I will say I have an incredible amount of anxiety, but I don't. But first of all, well, I feel.
- [71:35]
Marc Maron
Would you say you got a Handshake.
- [71:37]
Megan Stalter
Now I feel like my hands get a little shaky sometimes. If I feel like, first of all, the coffee, my hand will shake if I'm drinking coffee and eat enough. I feel, yes. That I'm experiencing some physical reactions that make me go, it's time to get another acupuncture appointment or it's time to go on a walk. And it helps.
- [71:59]
Marc Maron
I'm glad that you can deal with it that easily.
- [72:02]
Megan Stalter
No, it's not always easy, though. My fear of taking medicine is bigger than. I agree that if I took a medicine, I think it could help me. Right. But I'm scared a bit.
- [72:14]
Marc Maron
It took me 60 years.
- [72:15]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. I was gonna say there's reason. Like, I feel like people. Like, I feel like a big pharma wants us on a lot of medicine at times. Right. So I get scared. But then again, I know there's certain medicines that change people's lives and make things easier.
- [72:32]
Marc Maron
A lot of times they're designed to try to help people.
- [72:35]
Megan Stalter
Yes, exactly. Exactly.
- [72:35]
Marc Maron
Sure. It's a business. But, you know, on some level.
- [72:38]
Megan Stalter
But on some level, it's life changing. Right.
- [72:40]
Marc Maron
It's an advance.
- [72:41]
Megan Stalter
Yes. So it's not easy to manage it.
- [72:43]
Marc Maron
Without medicine, but everything inside me is slowly talking me out to staying on this medicine. But fortunately.
- [72:50]
Megan Stalter
Why are you scared about it?
- [72:52]
Marc Maron
Well, because if you're a creative person.
- [72:54]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, that's what my. Yeah.
- [72:55]
Marc Maron
You know, you don't want to be tempered, you know, like. Or, you know, hemmed in by, you know, some sort of desensitization. But this medicine doesn't really do that.
- [73:06]
Megan Stalter
I was gonna say, you seem very creative.
- [73:08]
Marc Maron
No, no, I'm good. I've only been on a few weeks. Only a few weeks. But. But the thing, like, I think it's kind of with, like, my. My memory a little bit interesting because they don't. They don't always. They don't really know how these things work.
- [73:21]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [73:21]
Marc Maron
They're just sort of like, I don't know, give it a try and we'll see. But this one doesn't stay in your body. It doesn't.
- [73:26]
Megan Stalter
I like the sound of that.
- [73:27]
Marc Maron
Yeah, it doesn't. With your, you know, brain and the. The long term, supposedly, maybe it's keeping.
- [73:32]
Megan Stalter
You from remembering something you didn't want to remember.
- [73:34]
Marc Maron
Yeah, but. But no, no, it's not like that. It's just sort of words aren't coming.
- [73:37]
Megan Stalter
Oh, it's like, what day of the week is it? Oh, okay. Okay. Stuff you want to remember.
- [73:42]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Old. That could just be old. Man stuff. But, like, I don't know. I. I don't know if it's working, but. But the. The. The. The side effects and the downside of this particular one didn't seem daunting.
- [73:52]
Megan Stalter
That one sounds good.
- [73:54]
Marc Maron
Yeah. But, like, I don't watch that.
- [73:56]
Megan Stalter
You don't, because you don't want it to get into a place where you're like, is this affecting me in this creative way?
- [74:01]
Marc Maron
Well, it's not even the creative thing. I just, like, if I don't feel it working, the fact that I'm sort of spiraling about whether the medicine.
- [74:08]
Megan Stalter
That medicine takes like a month or so. Right.
- [74:10]
Marc Maron
I don't know. Not necessarily. They just say that. And I think they just say that because there's an outside chance that you think it's working. And then in a month of doing that, maybe it is working, maybe it isn't, but.
- [74:22]
Megan Stalter
Well, I heard you on your podcast talk about your cat and. My dog's on Prozac.
- [74:27]
Marc Maron
Oh, you gotta give it to him every day.
- [74:29]
Megan Stalter
That has been life changing for my dog.
- [74:32]
Marc Maron
See, so how does that not translate to people?
- [74:35]
Megan Stalter
Well. Cause she has not lost herself. She is not sedated. Like, she has not lost her spark. Like, she literally is able to let us be in a different room now without her. Like, I used to have to pretend to go to bed so I could leave the house.
- [74:50]
Marc Maron
Really?
- [74:50]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. She was so anxious. She's a shelter dog.
- [74:54]
Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [74:55]
Megan Stalter
But she. The Prozac for her has been amazing. She just takes a little bit every day.
- [75:02]
Marc Maron
Is it hard to give it to her?
- [75:03]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, every day is a new way of me trying to sneak it in her little mouth. She's been on it probably at least eight months.
- [75:13]
Marc Maron
Yeah, I just couldn't. My cat just, like, got knocked out so hard.
- [75:17]
Megan Stalter
Why? On Prozac?
- [75:18]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [75:18]
Megan Stalter
Not Gabapentin.
- [75:20]
Marc Maron
Well, no. Gabapentin, I think, is better in my mind, but I don't know. We're gonna see.
- [75:24]
Megan Stalter
Gabapentin, to me, was more like knockout sleepy.
- [75:27]
Marc Maron
No, I know, but, like. But for me, it's situational. My cat, most of the time is fine. It's when I leave.
- [75:33]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. Oh, okay.
- [75:35]
Marc Maron
Yeah, that. It happens. So, like, gabapentin's not a bad option.
- [75:39]
Megan Stalter
Because it's like, it wears off.
- [75:40]
Marc Maron
Yeah, yeah.
- [75:41]
Megan Stalter
You can give it to her one day and not again for.
- [75:43]
Marc Maron
That's right. That's right. And I've been giving her this supplement. Him.
- [75:46]
Megan Stalter
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
- [75:47]
Marc Maron
It's all. It's all right. He's not hung up on pronouns.
- [75:51]
Megan Stalter
Okay, good. Sorry. Sorry. He comes in here, he's like, hey.
- [75:56]
Marc Maron
You know who I am? Yeah, I know. You can call him it or ask.
- [75:59]
Megan Stalter
Why are animals she? To me, animals are usually she for some reason in my mind. I don't know.
- [76:06]
Marc Maron
Well, I mean, that's your own issue.
- [76:07]
Megan Stalter
He, he, he, him, he, him, he.
- [76:10]
Marc Maron
Don't worry. Charlie's okay.
- [76:12]
Megan Stalter
Okay, Charlie. Also, Charlie's gender. Gender neutral, kind of.
- [76:16]
Marc Maron
No, Sammy is. The other two are kind of like, okay, Sammy's probably a they.
- [76:22]
Megan Stalter
Okay. They, them, they, them. He, they, they.
- [76:24]
Marc Maron
He'll go either way.
- [76:26]
Megan Stalter
Sammy have not. So he. Charlie's on now nothing.
- [76:31]
Marc Maron
He's on a supplement.
- [76:32]
Megan Stalter
Okay. Okay. Okay. That's what I thought. Yeah.
- [76:34]
Marc Maron
Zilkeen.
- [76:35]
Megan Stalter
Okay. I like a supplement for them, too. Animals.
- [76:37]
Marc Maron
See? No, he's just such. He's crazy, man.
- [76:40]
Megan Stalter
What does he do when you leave the house? Start scratching?
- [76:42]
Marc Maron
No, he starts like, you know, shitting everywhere.
- [76:45]
Megan Stalter
Shitting everywhere outside the litter box?
- [76:47]
Marc Maron
Yeah, he gets colitis.
- [76:48]
Megan Stalter
Oh, my God.
- [76:49]
Marc Maron
He beats up on the other cats.
- [76:51]
Megan Stalter
Oh, my God. I didn't know that.
- [76:53]
Marc Maron
Yeah, he goes nuts the last time I.
- [76:56]
Megan Stalter
That's how attached he is to you, I guess so. Cats aren't even usually that attached.
- [77:01]
Marc Maron
I don't know what it is.
- [77:02]
Megan Stalter
How long have you had him?
- [77:04]
Marc Maron
Since he was two weeks old.
- [77:06]
Megan Stalter
Oh, my God.
- [77:06]
Marc Maron
He's almost three. I found him. He was a little ball of fur under my steps. He was part of a feral. A feral litter. And she was moving them somewhere. And I'm like, I'm gonna take this one.
- [77:17]
Megan Stalter
He's just naturally. Naturally attached to you.
- [77:20]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [77:21]
Megan Stalter
Was he taken from his mother too soon?
- [77:23]
Marc Maron
Yes.
- [77:24]
Megan Stalter
Okay, so maybe he's like, you're his mommy.
- [77:26]
Marc Maron
Well, my girlfriend nursed him. Like, she took care of that. This sort of like every four hour thing until that was done. Then he came over here. But, like, I've had him. But I've had him. Yeah. Since then.
- [77:39]
Megan Stalter
Is that not crazy, that trauma can be held in even an animal's body like that. My dog, even though she's lived with us now for almost like two years.
- [77:49]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [77:50]
Megan Stalter
She still remembers what it's like to be in fear at the shelter.
- [77:54]
Marc Maron
Yeah, well, that's different, you know, like depending on how the other owner treated them. But like this? Yeah, like, you know, the. The sort of no mother thing. I don't know if it reads the same way as trauma, but because you kind of fill this void, it's not the same.
- [78:08]
Megan Stalter
Right.
- [78:09]
Marc Maron
But it's not like, you know, terrifying.
- [78:11]
Megan Stalter
But he's scary attached to you because it's not just that you're his owner, you're his mom.
- [78:16]
Marc Maron
Sure.
- [78:16]
Megan Stalter
You know, and your girlfriend's probably his mom.
- [78:18]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [78:18]
Megan Stalter
So he holds trauma of, like, wait, I don't want my mom to go too soon because you're his mom.
- [78:23]
Marc Maron
Well, yeah, I never. I never gave him the correct type of. Of detachment for him to become his own guy.
- [78:30]
Megan Stalter
But how could you?
- [78:31]
Marc Maron
No, I know.
- [78:32]
Megan Stalter
Not a kid. Yeah, exactly.
- [78:34]
Marc Maron
My mom didn't even do that for me. That's why I'm fucked up.
- [78:37]
Megan Stalter
Also, you saved his life.
- [78:38]
Marc Maron
I know, totally.
- [78:39]
Megan Stalter
But he. In his body's like, my mom left too soon. Now you're my mom, and now you cannot leave or I'm gonna freak out.
- [78:44]
Marc Maron
Yeah, I don't know if that's the tone.
- [78:46]
Megan Stalter
I'm gonna freak out.
- [78:47]
Marc Maron
Yeah. It's like, where are you going? Oh, is he here? Did he die? Yeah. What happened to him?
- [78:53]
Megan Stalter
My dog thinks I'm dead if I leave the room.
- [78:54]
Marc Maron
I think they all do.
- [78:55]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [78:57]
Marc Maron
I used to try to do a joke about that. Like, when you leave, and after a couple days, they're like, I guess he's.
- [79:01]
Megan Stalter
Dead after, like, a couple minutes. If I come home, the dog's like, where have you been? Where are you now? Like, why? Don't leave again.
- [79:10]
Marc Maron
Well, mine's not that crazy.
- [79:11]
Megan Stalter
Okay.
- [79:12]
Marc Maron
It's just that he's attached to me. The other two are attached to each other.
- [79:14]
Megan Stalter
Each other. Boyfriends.
- [79:16]
Marc Maron
Yeah. So when I get. When I leave, he's sort of like, well, I'll get. So I'm the king. I think it's more that it's like, finally, that guy's out of the way. Whose house is this now?
- [79:24]
Megan Stalter
Oh, my God. Is he the oldest?
- [79:27]
Marc Maron
No, he's the youngest.
- [79:28]
Megan Stalter
But you know, cats and animals in general, there's gonna be someone that rises to the top of like, I know.
- [79:34]
Marc Maron
But that's what's happening, is when I leave, he fights it out with the other guy.
- [79:37]
Megan Stalter
You should have a animal psychic on your podcast.
- [79:41]
Marc Maron
Everyone tells me, I should get that guy Galaxy Jackson. Galaxy.
- [79:44]
Megan Stalter
I don't know who that is.
- [79:45]
Marc Maron
That's like the cat.
- [79:46]
Megan Stalter
You have to. To.
- [79:47]
Marc Maron
It's getting to that point. We'll see how it goes when I go away this time.
- [79:51]
Megan Stalter
You should have a podcast where the psychic's in here and the cats are in here. That'd be so fun.
- [79:57]
Marc Maron
I don't want a psychic. I want a behavioralist.
- [79:59]
Megan Stalter
Well, I think a psychic could talk to the cats, though, and be like, stop doing that. Right.
- [80:03]
Marc Maron
Maybe. I don't know. I tend to not do the kind of flighty stuff.
- [80:10]
Megan Stalter
Okay. Do you not think it's real?
- [80:12]
Marc Maron
No, it's not that I don't think it's real.
- [80:14]
Megan Stalter
You don't do it.
- [80:15]
Marc Maron
But, like, I feel like my cat is like me. Like, Charlie reacted to medicine the way I did, that way I would. Like, when he was on the Prozac, I could tell that it muted him. Like, I could tell he was having the same impulses that he used to, but he couldn't follow through with him. And I'm like, that's got to be more frustrating than being pissed off. I don't know if I'm projecting.
- [80:36]
Megan Stalter
Oh, I see what you're saying. Like, yeah, that's so interesting.
- [80:40]
Marc Maron
I wanna. Maybe not.
- [80:42]
Megan Stalter
Oh, and you wanted him to if you wanted to. To do it. Exactly. So sad.
- [80:47]
Marc Maron
I know.
- [80:48]
Megan Stalter
Okay. I'm glad he's not on it.
- [80:49]
Marc Maron
Yeah. All right. So. Okay, Well, I think we did it. You feel all right?
- [80:54]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I feel like. Do you feel like people are gonna watch too much?
- [80:57]
Marc Maron
Of what?
- [80:58]
Megan Stalter
The show. Too much.
- [80:59]
Marc Maron
Yes.
- [81:02]
Megan Stalter
It's a good title, I think.
- [81:03]
Marc Maron
No, it's funny.
- [81:04]
Megan Stalter
Yeah. It's about being too much.
- [81:06]
Marc Maron
It's just very funny. It's a completely perfect showcase for what you do.
- [81:11]
Megan Stalter
Thank you.
- [81:12]
Marc Maron
And I think it was hilarious.
- [81:14]
Megan Stalter
And Lena is just the most amazing writer. Like, she's the whole script. So incredible.
- [81:18]
Marc Maron
Yeah. And it's nice to see her again. And there's a lot of those sort of, like, kind of like, there's a total sort of commitment to shamelessness that she's very good at.
- [81:31]
Megan Stalter
It's also interesting because everyone rewatched Girls, like, this past year. There's, like, a Girls rewatch podcast that everyone was, like, so crazy about. It was so funny. Like, I just saw clip after clip of people rewatching. I think, like, Gen Z, people, like, discovered Girls.
- [81:48]
Marc Maron
Yeah. Yeah.
- [81:48]
Megan Stalter
And I watched when I was, like, in my 20s.
- [81:51]
Marc Maron
Yeah.
- [81:51]
Megan Stalter
While it was coming out.
- [81:52]
Marc Maron
Yeah. It's quite a. It was quite a social event. Girls.
- [81:56]
Megan Stalter
Yeah.
- [81:56]
Marc Maron
Well, I'm glad she's doing okay.
- [81:58]
Megan Stalter
Yeah, I love her.
- [81:59]
Marc Maron
Yeah. I haven't talked to her in a long time. Oh, good. Well, I. I hope you. I wish you good luck with it and. But I do think people watch it because it is very funny.
- [82:07]
Megan Stalter
I'm really proud of it. And guess what? The luckiest girl in the world to be a part of Hacks.
- [82:11]
Marc Maron
Yeah, totally. That's it. And you guys are writing another season now.
- [82:14]
Megan Stalter
I can't wait. I'm so excited to see what happens.
- [82:17]
Marc Maron
I watch it too. And I love Hannah and I love Jean. They're impal. Everyone's good. All right, take care.
- [82:22]
Megan Stalter
Thank you. This was so fun.
- [82:28]
Marc Maron
There you go. What a sweetheart. Very funny. Her new Netflix series Too Much premieres next month and she. You can watch her in hacks right now on Max. Hang out for a minute, folks. Support for today's episode comes from Square, your all in one business partner, making your day to day easier. Square brings together everything you need to run your business and get paid. And it's all in one simple platform so you can stay organized and up to date. There's a bunch of businesses in my area who use Square Ugly Mug Coffee House, Geo's Bakery, and Cafe Deluca's Deli Ideology Coffee. That's just a handful of them. But whatever your business is, you can start using Square for payments today. Square Hardware looks sleek and doesn't feel intrusive to you or your customers. And the software is straightforward and intuitive. You don't need special training. You can just set it up and start taking payments quickly. Square keeps up so you don't have to slow down. Get everything you need to run and grow your business without any long term commitments. And why wait? Right now you can get up to $200 off square hardware@square.com go. That's sq u a r e.com go. Wtf. Run your business smarter with Square. Get started today. Hey, look for the latest full Marin bonus episode. I answered your frequently asked questions about the upcoming end of WTF and what happens next.
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Megan Stalter
Are you worried that that without the.
- [84:01]
Marc Maron
Podcast you won't have the same ability to promote your stand up dates, tours, specials, et cetera? Well, I do think about that. But I've also noticed that even with the podcast that people's listening habits are unique. Some people are always catching up. There have been people that have missed shows of mine that I've promoted for months. Then they're like, why? I didn't know you were coming and I don't know what else to do. And also, you know, I'll keep Instagram alive and you know, it'll just, I'll just have to see. I mean, there's plenty of guys who do comedy that aren't on any of these things and usually Live Nation has a pretty good publicity muscle. But I find that I would say maybe half of the people that show up to my shows, it's not because they hear me promoted on the podcast, but I guess I'll see. But there are other avenues. But I don't know that even given the history of the show, that this has been the one that gets asses in the seats necessarily. To get that episode plus every bonus episode we do twice a week, sign up for the full Marin Just go to the link in the episode description or go to wtfpod.com and click on WTF Plus. And a reminder before we go, this podcast is hosted by acast. This is the end. My only friend Boomer lives Monkey and lafonda Cat Angels everywhere.