WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk – Episode Summary: "Burma '45: The Forgotten General"

Introduction

In the compelling episode titled "Burma '45: The Forgotten General," hosts Al Murray and historian James Holland delve into the often-overlooked Burma campaign of World War II. This episode shines a spotlight on the 10th Battalion of the Gloucestershire Regiment, exploring their harrowing experiences, leadership dynamics, and the intricate jungle warfare that defined their mission. Through detailed narratives and personal anecdotes, Al and James bring to life the valor and struggles of these soldiers, ensuring their stories receive the attention they deserve.

Encounter with General Stillwell

The episode opens with an engaging recount of Major Richard Butler’s unexpected meeting with the renowned General "Vinegar Joe" Stillwell. At [00:54], Major Butler describes how General Stillwell impressed the battalion by correctly guessing that exactly 50% of their soldiers hailed from Gloucestershire:

Major Richard Butler [01:48]: "That was by Major Richard Butler of the 10th Battalion of the Gloucesters, describing his encounter with Vinegar Joe Stillwell."

This anecdote not only highlights Stillwell's meticulous nature but also sets the stage for introducing Major General FW Festing, a central figure in the battalion's narrative.

Formation and Structure of the 10th Gloucesters

Al Murray provides a comprehensive overview of the 10th Gloucesters' formation and structural changes. Initially formed in 1940, the battalion underwent multiple conversions between infantry and armored roles, reflecting the fluid dynamics of wartime military organization:

Al Murray [04:41]: "They’ve been formed in 1940. So they arrive in Burma in February of 1944 and they come from India and they're fed into the Arakan fighting in Burma, but they've been formed in 1940."

By March 1943, the battalion reverted to its infantry roots, becoming part of the 72nd Brigade within the 36th Division, under the command of Major General FW Festing, affectionately dubbed "Frontline Frankie."

Profile of Major General FW Festing

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to profiling Major General FW Festing, a distinguished but obscure British commander. Al Murray underscores Festing's extensive military background and his pivotal yet unrecognized role in the Burma campaign:

Al Murray [08:12]: "He's a practicing Roman Catholic and he took great delight in the fact that he was the first practicing Roman Catholic to have headed the British army since the reign of James II."

Despite his commendable service, Festing remains a forgotten figure, epitomizing the many unsung heroes of the war. His leadership qualities and personal anecdotes provide a humanizing touch to the historical narrative.

The Battle for Pinway

The heart of the episode revolves around the intense battle for Pinway, a critical railway junction. Al and James meticulously detail the battalion's tactical maneuvers, the relentless jungle warfare, and the significant casualties endured:

James Holland [32:22]: "That sounds like they've come under very, very heavy small arms fire and pinned down and they don't know where they are."

The 10th Gloucesters faced formidable Japanese resistance, characterized by well-concealed machine gun posts and relentless banzai charges. The jungle terrain added layers of complexity, making coordinated attacks and defense strategies exceedingly challenging. The battalion's persistence led to the eventual Japanese withdrawal from Pinway, but not without substantial losses:

Al Murray [41:22]: "Campaign casualties in the other ranks. So aside from the officers, 32 killed, 70 wounded, one missing. So 103 in total with officers."

Personal Connections and Anecdotes

Al Murray brings a personal dimension to the episode by sharing his familial connection to Major Guy Weathered, the battalion's commanding officer. This personal touch enriches the narrative, providing listeners with a deeper emotional connection to the events discussed:

Al Murray [42:24]: "He's the son of a former commanding officer of the Gloucesters. So he's just a big boy... six foot five. He's a magnificent athlete... he’s killed shortly afterwards attempting to get his wounded men away."

These stories emphasize the profound sacrifices made by individuals and the bonds formed amidst the chaos of war.

Challenges of Jungle Warfare

Throughout the episode, Al and James highlight the unique challenges posed by jungle warfare in Burma. From disorienting terrain and dense foliage to the omnipresent threat of ambushes, the battalion had to adapt continuously to survive and achieve their objectives:

James Holland [40:24]: "That's what's going on. And, well, you might be attacking in battalion strength, but if four of you are 20 yards ahead of the rest... you're not a battalion strength, you're half a section suddenly."

The unforgiving environment demands exceptional leadership and resilience, traits that the officers and soldiers of the 10th Gloucesters exemplified repeatedly.

Conclusion: Remembering the Forgotten

In wrapping up, Al and James reflect on the broader implications of the 10th Gloucesters' experiences. They emphasize the importance of remembering the lesser-known aspects of the war and the individuals who played crucial roles in pivotal campaigns:

James Holland [45:15]: "It's so interesting... some of those divisional commanders... seriously, these are seriously good people."

The episode serves as a tribute to the forgotten generals and soldiers of the Burma campaign, urging listeners to acknowledge and honor their extraordinary contributions.

Notable Quotes

• Major Richard Butler [01:48]: "Put up their hands. I hardly dared look up to see the result, but when I did, I was very glad to see exactly 50%."

• Al Murray [08:12]: "He's a practicing Roman Catholic and he took great delight in the fact that he was the first practicing Roman Catholic to have headed the British army since the reign of James II."

• James Holland [40:24]: "That's what's going on. And, well, you might be attacking in battalion strength, but if four of you are 20 yards ahead of the rest..."

Final Thoughts

"Burma '45: The Forgotten General" is a meticulously detailed exploration of a pivotal yet overlooked chapter of World War II. Through engaging storytelling and thorough historical analysis, Al Murray and James Holland provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the complexities of the Burma campaign and the indomitable spirit of the soldiers who fought within it. This episode not only educates but also honors the legacy of those who navigated the harsh realities of jungle warfare, ensuring their stories remain etched in history.