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Almost immediately, large formations of aircraft were sighted to the northward and were very soon overhead. They were recognized as German. Three squadrons of Stukas. The Illustrious flew off more fighters, but neither they nor the patrol already in the air could gain sufficient height to do anything. We opened up with every AA gun we had as one by one the Stukas peeled off into their dives, concentrating almost the whole venom of their attack upon the Illustrious. At times she became almost completely hidden in a forest of great bomb splashes. One was too interested in this new form of dive bombing attack really to be frightened, and there was no doubt we were watching complete experts roughly formed in a large circle over the fleet. They peeled off one by one. When reaching the attacking position we could not but admire the skill and precision of it all. The attacks were pressed home to point blank range, and as they pulled out of their dives, some of them were seen to fly along the flight deck of the Illustrious below the level of the funnel. I saw her hit early on just before the bridge and in all in something like 10 minutes she was hit by six 1000 pound bombs to leave the line badly on fire, her steering gear crippled, her lifts out of action and with heavy casualties. That was of course Admiral Sir Andrew Brown Cunningham, ABC Commander in Chief of the Mediterranean Fleet aboard HMS Warspite off Malta on 10 January 1941. Welcome to we have Ways of Making youg Talk with me, Al Murray and James Holland, your World War II podcast for all your World War II podcast needs. And this is our first episode of Fortress Malta. Jim, here we are. This is where you came in, isn't it?
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It is where I came in. It's my origin story for the Second World War. And I've got to say what a joy it's been to revisit A Sailor's Odyssey by Admiral of the Fleet Lord Cunningham of Heinhope. Very much cut from the Nelsonian cloth, an aggressive sea dog. He's a wonderful fellow, pictures of him, you can see that he's got a twinkle in his eye, there's crow's feet extending from the side of his eyes. He is a man of a sense of humor, but also he's sort of cussed and determined and it's the face etch from long years standing on bridges, being sort of sprayed by briny water and kissed by the Mediterranean sun. You know, he's on Warspite, the great battleship which, which he uses as his flag. And yes, I mean the Illustrious gets an absolute hammering. But I think, you know, to start off with we need to do a little bit of, we need to go back in time because this is, this is the very beginning of January 1941. And of course the siege of Malta starts the day after Mussolini declares war on Britain and France on the 10th of June 1940. So 11th of June is, is when malt war really begins. And the air raid siren rings out over the island just before 7am on that second day, 11th of June 1940. Italian bombers appearing at some 14,000ft. I mean that's just ludicrously high for to attacking an island that's small on the Isle of Wight. First explosions are in the south, towards how far? Airfield, but with absolutely no accuracy whatsoever, as you can imagine. And Flight Lieutenant George Burgess is on readiness. He's been on readiness since 6:30 that morning, or rather a readiness in theory as he's sitting on the lavatory when the, when the siren rings, which is a common occupation for people on Malta, it has to be said. He hurriedly pulls up his trousers, dashes to his Gloucester gladiator. Sea gladiator hurtles down the Runway and then he's airborne. And Burgess is really a flying boat pilot, but has been made personal assistant to the Air Officer commanding, who is Air Commodore F.H.M. maynard. Back in January 1940, but at the beginning of May had volunteered for the new Malta fighter flight using these Royal Navy Gloster gladiators and there's only four of them and the idea is that it would never have more than two in the air at any one time. But on the 11th of June, he's one of the two taking off. You can see explosions around how far airfield but can't remotely catch the air. The Italian bombers because his gladiator is not quick enough. Buildings around the dockyard are hit and one bomb lands on the upper part of Fort St Elmo, which is right the very end of the little finger of Valletta, the capital, which extends out into Grand Harbour on the south side and Marshamshire Harbour on the north side. It hits a Royal Malta artillery position, killing six people outright, including Philip Bussertill, who's a 16 year old duty telephonist. Gosh, lasts about 20 minutes and then it's all clear and that's the beginning of it.
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The British, for all their like, imperial perspective of things and you know, the, let's be honest now in the 1930s, they agonize about where they should spend their money and how they protect their imperial possessions across the world. There are no firm plans for Malta should the island come under attack. Oh, there. It's not that they've been taken by.
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Surprise, it's just completely taking their eye off the ball.
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After the start of blitzkrieg, the governor, Lieutenant General Sir William Dobby, has advised those in the cities with relatives in the countryside to move there. As you said, it's a tiny island, so I suppose that might help. But people do now begin to flee. They've, they, they've ignored that, but they do now begin to flee. Now it's sort of started, but as ever you get this thing where people are shocked to be under attack so soon into the war and they've gone to work because they don't think it's possibly going to happen. We're going to end up talk, talking a lot about the fighty defence of the islands. There are echoes of the Battle of Britain, aren't there? Italy's not very far away. It's not that difficult for the enemy to muster planes and put them over Malta in pretty quick order. It's only 60 miles away. But the Italians up to this point have been their neighbours and now they're bombing them. And it's always this thing as well with the Second World War. It's the first bombing raid. Never really amounts to much, does it?
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Well it's just such a shock. I think that's the thing. You know, Malta hasn't been bombed from the air before so this is an entirely new experience. You know, obviously they've been sort of following events of what's been going on but you know, no one knows how to react and what to do. And the island itself is, is underprepared. There's another raid in the afternoon of the 11th of June and you know, challenged try and bomb the airfields of Lucca and to Carli. There's three airfields on Malta, Lukka, Tikali and and Halfar. None of them are very successful. There's another raid in the evening. This was meant for the dockyards but most fell on Cospicua which is one of the three cities. So south of, of Valetta which is this finger that sticks out into grand harbor there's three further little fingers sticking out into grand harbor and they are known as the three cities. So St. Clair, Cospicua and Vittoriosa. And 22 people are killed, you know, and this is it. You know, the siege of Malta has begun. That's it. And it will continue until kind of back end of 1942 which is what we're going to be covering in this six part series.
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But we touched on it earlier that Malta's part of the British Empire. The pick, the imperial picture. Why, why have we got this tiny little plug of land in. I mean and it couldn't be better placed if what you need is to get from one end of the Mediterranean to. And you maybe need air cover on your way from, from the Straits Gibraltar all the way to. Alex, it's not. It couldn't be more perfectly placed for the strategic situation that's going to unfold in the Second World War, could it?
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It is literally bang in the middle. It is not quite equidistance between Alexandria and Gibraltar but, but it kind of, it almost is. And you know it's 60 miles off the coast, southern coast of Sicily, so it's banging the way of any, any Italian shipping wanting to go to North Africa to go to Libya for example. It's not a million miles from, from Tunisia, you know, it's within striking distance of northern Tunisia. So yeah, it is, it's incredibly well, well placed and it's got these, these two fantastic harbors. It's got grand harbor and Marsamshit harbor, which are 80ft deep and 70ft deep, respectively, which basically means anything can get into it. And the nature of the three cities, these little fingers sticking out, means you've got these really quite well protected dockyards as well. So it's been the center of the Mediterranean Fleet, you know, since, since 1800. And this is because Napoleon's France, the French have invaded Malta in 1798. And after the Battle of the Nile, Nelson sails into Grand Harbor. The Maltese rebelled against the. The French occupiers. The Royal Navy is bombarding the French. The French give up and so they take it over. And Nelson says, I hope we shall never give it up. And, and this is a view that's sort of echoed very much 140 years later by ABC Admiral Andrew Brown Cunningham, who we heard at the beginning. Yeah, ABC is a terrific figure and, and, you know, he's an absolute Mediterranean man, a bit like, like Nelson was and spent much of his career in the, in the Mediterranean, knows literally every nook and cranny and stretch of the coast intimately. And Malta had been the home of the Mediterranean Fleet until it moved to Alexandria on the 30th of April that same year, 1940. And ABC, as commander in Chief of the Mediterranean Fleet, he might now be based in Alexandria, but he absolutely believes that, that British domination of the Mediterranean is totally vital for their war efforts. Of course he does, but, you know, for good reasons, frankly. You know, so you've got Gibraltar at the western end, which is a gateway to the Atlantic. You've got Alexandria at the eastern end with access to the Suez Canal, you know, and as we say, Malta, 17 miles by nine, is bang in the middle as a strategic stronghold. You couldn't ask for more.
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Yeah, particularly if you're going to end up having to fight, you know, another war further east as well, that if you need to be able to keep things joined up, let's say it kicks off with Japan, it's going to be a. I mean, it's actual importance globally, strategically. Malta's importance, I think, can't be understated. It's probably the most important single piece of real estate in the Mediterranean, without a doubt, but globally as well, if you're going to join up the naval daisy chain that gets you to Singapore and beyond, you need Malta.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. When Nelson, you know, kicks out the French in 1800 with the help of the Maltese revolting, it is the Maltese that ask Britain to stay. They say, will you stay and be, you know, can we be part of Britain? And you know, it's a mutual back scratching thing because the Maltese then have a protector because they're very vulnerable where they are. And the British has a big base. So, you know, of course a Malta is formally annexed the British crown in 1813. So it's like Gibraltar, it's like the Falkland Islands. You know, it's like these other possessions that Britain has. It is, it is British. It's got, you know, in 1939, it's got red letterboxes and all the rest of it, you know, it is, it is British and it's in one level it's a very unusual match because of course, you know, the, the British and Northern Europeans and Protestants and the Maltese are all for the most part pretty devout Catholics, but somehow it kind of works well. And of course, you know, the British being there brings a huge amount of jobs, you know, into naval dockyards and stuff. You know, it's been a productive relationship for the quarter of a million Maltese. And Malta is really interesting. You know, the language itself, it has this sort of weird blend of sort of Arab and European influences. Valletta and the three cities are absolutely magnificent. So is Medina right in the center of the, of the island. Now these are, these are huge sort of classical Renaissance cities with, with huge star shaped bastions and it was these bastions that resisted Suleiman the Magnificent and the ottomans in the first great siege of 1565. And they're still there to this day. I mean you go there and there they are and it looks completely formidable. So it's not just that it's got these harbors, it's also got natural defenses as well. But obviously that was then and this is now and it's 1940. And you need a bit more than just bastion walls and cannons. You need anti aircraft guns and you need loads and loads of aircraft and that's what they don't have. And the bottom line is Malta is badly under defended, which is remarkable, isn't.
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It really, given what we've said about how important it is. But also a sign of problems with defence spending in between the wars and the lack of money and the unwillingness of successive governments to cough up. You only have to look at the way they dither, what to do about Singapore in the British government in between the wars, somewhere less in people's minds as an imperial possession down the pecking order isn't going to do well at all. There's so much controversy around defending Singapore. So Malta is going to end up right at the bottom of the ladder, isn't it? For that?
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If you have a Mediterranean policy, which they do in the 1930s and you're determined to protect the Suez Canal and Malta is right in the middle of the Mediterranean, you should defend it. And the bottom line is, because it's so small, actually to defend it heavily doesn't require a huge amount. It's not like you're defending France or you know, the whole southern coastline of England or anything like that. I mean you're talking about a pretty tiny island. There is scale here and you've got three airfields, you know, use them.
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Yes.
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You know, you've got these bastions, great places to put anti aircraft guns, but.
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There'S this failure of imagination around the entire thing. The Navy are getting its big battleships as and when treaty allows, but everything, everything further down the pecking order in terms of defence spending, it's just, it's incomplete. It's only after the Pact of Steel, you know, the declaration sort of allegiance between the Italians and the Germans in May 39that the committee for Imperial Defence say all right, yes, let's reinforce it. But even then it's nothing like what's going to be needed.
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Yeah, but also, you know, you've had the Spanish Civil War, you've had the Abyssinian crisis in the mid-1930s. So there are already just in those two conflicts there are plenty of indicators that Malta's position at the heart of the Mediterranean is quite vulnerable. If you don't, don't reinforce it. 1938 ABC is Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff and he's continually pressing reinforcement of Malta and is not being heard. Even after the Pact of Steel in May 1939, you know, they agreed to send over 112 heavy anti aircraft guns and 60 light anti aircraft guns, 24 searchlights and four fighter squadrons and not almost none of it has been delivered. By the length of June 1940 they're short of 78 heavy guns, heavy anti aircraft guns, 38 light anti aircraft guns. You know, they have no fighters at all. I mean they certainly don't have three fighter squadrons. I mean they've got, got nothing. They've got four battalions of infantry, King's Own Malta Regiment from which one company is made up from Boy Scouts. It's not ideal, is it?
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No.
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A few fairy swordfish, one radio controlled Queen Bee which is of absolutely no use whatsoever. It's hopeless.
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Yes, well, it's because the defence of England has been prioritised, isn't it? It's as simple as that. And at this point, the air defence of England is also untested, isn't it? This is the thing, the things we take for granted is the way you fight this stage, the Second World War are not in place yet, or if they are, they're untested. And Malta being that far downstream, priority wise, it's just that the lack of.
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Vision is quite extraordinary, is absolutely boggling.
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Given that the people. You know, you've got Cunningham on the ground, he's Deputy Chief of the Naval Staff, it's going to be his theater and yet he can't get his way. And I find all that very interesting that people are not able to get this taken seriously.
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Air Commandant Maynard, you know, once, once it all kicks off in France in the beginning of, you know, on the 10th of May 1940, Sud, everything's crikey, we haven't got our four fighter squadrons, we've got no fighter planes at all. I've got just a handful of fairy swordfish and that's it, what am I going to do? And he then discovers there are 18 sea gladiators in crates, you know, all boxed up at Caliphra on a sea plane base which is right on the south, just below how far airfield. And the Navy intends to reassemble them and then send eight to HMS Glorious and 10 to HMS Eagle, which are two aircraft carriers. And so Maynard signals to ABC and says, can we have the 10 gladiators which are going for the Eagle? And ABC says, yeah, sure. So in April 1940, four of the gladiators have been assembled and formed into the Malta fighter flight at how far? But Maynard has no trained fighter pilots at all. So Arsenal volunteers, which is why George Burgess, who we mentioned earlier on, is one of the ones that kind of volunteers along with seven others, the Royal Navy then, then veto the decision, you know, go over the head of abc. So they're dismantled again, only for the decision to then be reversed once again. And so the, the Malta fighter flight is reformed, but with just three planes and the fighter flight is split into two flights, flights of three pilots with no more than two airborne at any one time. I mean, three Gloster gladiators. It's not a lot, is it?
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No, it's not a lot. I suppose actually in May 1940, it's not the best time to get onto the phone to the RAF and go, we need some planes over here please, is it? They're gonna go, nah, you know, decisions being vetoed from far away is very Much the story of the siege of Malta. But the Mediterranean fleet itself, it's also.
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Under strength, isn't it? And that's because the priority's gone to the Home Fleet, for obvious reasons.
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Yeah. And they're lacking. They're lacking submarines. There's only 12 submarines in the Med in May 1940. The Italians have 115. It's unbelievable.
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Yeah. But, you know, Italy's make all its effort in the Mediterranean, can't it?
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Yeah, exactly. Of course.
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Yeah. Britain's got global effort even in this stage.
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Yes. Even though it's not really taking it very. Doesn't seem to take it particularly seriously. There are plans to build big sub pens under Valletta bastions, but it doesn't happen.
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Yeah. And you can see the start of them, actually. You can see where they were starting to build them, then they just. They got abandoned. So they're right underneath Valletta on the. On the Marsamshet harbour sites on the northern side of Valletta. And you can see, if you go along there, you can still, still see the starts of the tunnels and they just never finished them. There is a commander of the Malta Submarine Force and this is Lieutenant Commander R.G. pop Giddings, as he's known. His name's Pop Giddings, who's only part time and spends most of his time.
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As a wine rep. That doesn't surprise me. I mean, when you read David Niven's memoir, the Moon's Balloon, when he talks about being on Malta in between the wars as a subaltern and it's cricket and gin, you know, they're not particularly leaning into the soldiering, so it doesn't much surprise me.
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And there's a new governor because General Sir Charles Bonham Carter, who's been around for a little while and is generally a good egg, he falls ill in the spring of 1940, so he's replaced by Dobby, who is very devout and a member of the Plymouth Brethren. He's come from. I think he's come from Singapore or Malaya or somewhere. So, you know, a sort of complete out and out extreme Protestant governor of an extreme Catholic island. I mean, who thinks of these things? I mean, you know, Dobby is, you know, he's all right, but he's. He's a bit C list, really, you know, and his appointment sort of adds to the kind of general belief that Malta's sort of a long way down the pecking order when it needs to be a lot higher.
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What is the relationship, though, between Cunningham and the top? All of the things we're talking about are legacies that the government, of the Chamberlain government, aren't they of, of its state of preparedness as of May 10.
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I don't think we need to worry about Malta.
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Exactly. We're looking at a change of management at the top. And what difference does Churchill coming in make?
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Well, it makes a massive difference because he's not going to give up anything. That's the whole point. You know, we'll never surrender and we'll never surrender any of our territories. Saying never surrender means apart from the Channel Islands, obviously, but, but Churchill, you know, he's thinking globally, isn't he always? He's thinking, okay, what's our next moves? You know, okay, we might be a bit snookered here, but, you know, we're going to need the Suez Canal, you know, what about India? How are we going to get there? You know, we need to, we need our protectorate of Egypt, we need X, Y and Z. And you know, Malta is a, is a. Cheshire could completely see its strategic importance. He's not going to give it up. No way, Jose.
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So in that sense, the change for the likes of abc, that change in management is a good thing, isn't it? Because as you said, Cunningham's thing is Nelsonian aggression and finding the enemy, engaging him, destroying him, putting him off, styming him any way, any way he possibly can. So the change in situation suits ABC enormously, doesn't he? And although they're, although the Italians do outnumber the Mediterranean Fleet, they're not technologically nowhere near as advanced. So they don't have, they don't have radar, for instance, and they don't have any aircraft carriers. And ABC's expecting.
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They're not as well trained either.
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Yeah, Is expecting them to attack back, but they don't. Italians lay mines outside the harbor Alexandria while the fleets are out, but, you know, they get round those, he returns, refuels victuals, heads out to sea again and the bombards the Libyan coast, sinks six Italian subs immediately.
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Cunning 109 to sort out.
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Well, exactly, yes, quite right, yeah, but the, But Dudley Pound, Admiral Dudley Pound, is the First Sea Lord. He's really worried about holding onto Malta. If France is knocked out of the war, what can actually be done? And this is fascinating, on 17 June, he writes to ABC saying we may have to evacuate Malta, we may need to pull the plug. And Cunningham replies, this is a bad idea. The consequences are unthinkable, would lead to the loss of the Mediterranean, Egypt, Middle east, et cetera. And as you said, luckily, Churchill has no intention. So Pound is seen off. Cullingham's been able to get support from Churchill for that kind of attitude, far more than he was from the previous government. Although this now means you do lose the southern French coast, everything's just getting much more difficult, isn't it? And at this stage, of course, they don't know which way the French Navy's going to jump either, do they? Which is really adding to the pressure.
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But, you know, But Churchill and ABC's view is you don't even think about evacuating until you absolutely have to. And at the moment, you know, we've still got the Mediterranean Fleet. The Mediterranean Fleet is still sizable, you know, crack on.
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At this stage of the war, when Churchill's brand new, it's the people between him and the decision getting actually enacted, that means all sorts of stuff he says needs to happen doesn't happen, or happens in quite a different way to the way expect, or with the Air Ministry intervening or the Air Ministry prioritizing its own decisions, despite what he said. I think every episode, we're going to say, just sends Spitfires to Malta at some point in every episode. So I just want to broach that here. Just send Spitfires to Malta.
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So what are the.
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What are the Malta fighter flight up to at this early stage of the siege?
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Well, they're doing their best. I mean, they're taking up every. You know, they're taking off every day, the two of them. And the problem is, you know, they're slow to climb. And, you know, they try and reduce the time it takes them to take off by just sort of being strapped into their cockpits, ready, you know, they're seen. So it's giving the islanders a bit of a. Bit of a boost, Harry. They get their name, they're called Faith, Open Charity, because eventually they get another one, and so they get another one out. So they. They do sometimes have three in the air. And Harry Kirk, who's an RAF corporal at RAF headquarters in Scott street in Valletta, sees the three gladiators in the sky and he thinks they remind him of the three silver hearts on a brooch of his mother's. And each heart on the brooch had had a name, Faith, Hope and Charity. So he. He points up and goes, look, there go Faith, Open Charity. And the name snuck. And George Burgess, you know, he noticed it. People got the impression that our aircraft was shooting down enem planes left, right and center. They didn't. But morale was kept high. So, you know, they have a value? Definitely. By 21st of June they have two more gladiators, but then that morning one crashes on takeoff and a second crash is on landing the same day. And so although the pilots walk away, two fifths of the planes are now out of action. But what they do do is that, you know, they've got, I mean this is, this is sort of a product of being on an island like Malta. There's lots of people with ingenuity and make do and mend and sort of, you know, know. So they managed to shorten the wings and soup up the engines so that the performance is massively increased so they can now climb faster than, than a Hurricane. And the first two hurricanes arrive on the 21st of June. They think they're just staging on their way to Egypt and they're told no, no, no, you're staying here. And they're really not happy about it at all. But anyway, it was tough, so. So Dobby sends messages to the war office on 12th of June pleading for more fighters. And six Hurricanes arrive on the 13th of June. He's told they can keep them because they're on their way to Egypt, but the message doesn't get free, so they do go. Then the two arrive on the 21st of June and they're told to stay. And six more arrive on the 22nd of June which fly down actually through France. So on the day that France signs its armistice and those are the last ones to arrive that way, you know, from now on they're coming into, on aircraft carriers at the mouth of the Mediterranean and flying 700 miles, 800 miles down the Mediterranean to Malta. It's not an easy job. George Burgess shoots down the first enemy plane an SM, a Savoya Marquez 52 bomber over Valletta and it's seen diving into the sea by thousands of famous photograph of it. You know, that's the first aerial victory they have after, you know, 11 days.
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It's like firing guns, firing the anti aircraft guns during the Battle of Britain, isn't it? As long as something's seen to be done, morale may stay intact, you know, and certainly you shoot a play down, everyone sees it go down in flames. Jackpot. However, as you said, 22 June is the French armistice. As we said, if France falls, the French coast falling into enemy hands if it does. And what the French navy is going to do is a hugely important and could really alter the fate of Malta. And we'll take a break and after it we will return with the battle of Calabria and the first proper dust up in the Med. ABC getting his guns onto some Italian targets. Jolly good. Carry on. Enemy on the starboard bow. Seen at this episode is brought to you by Jack Daniels. Jack Daniels and music are made for each other.
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Welcome back to Weird ways of making you talk with me. I'm Murray and James Holland. Episode one of our Siege of Malta. So, Jim, we promised people the Battle of Calabria. Let's give it to them.
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Well, yes, so the first convoy headed from Alexandria to Malta leaves on the 7th of July. So the. So the fleet goes out to support it. And as they're heading out into the sea, you know, on the 8th of July, ABC gets the news. He's on the bridge of HMS Warspite, the great battleship that the Italian fleet has been spotted by a Royal Navy submarine 200 miles east of Malta. So ABC orders the Malta seaplanes to shadow the Marina Militare. The Italians have also spotted the Mediterranean fleet. So, you know, recce planes are flying over them and then bombers, but yet again they're too high and bombs are unlikely to hit a ship from 12,000ft. I think that's fair to say. And lo and behold, they don't. Then reports come that the Italian fleet, you know, they've dropped some bombs. They can go back to base now. So they're heading back towards Italy and ABC changes course in an effort to come between them and their base the following morning. The Mediterranean fleet is now only 90 miles west of the Italians, but outnumbered and outgunned. But, you know, that's not going to put him off. And by 3 o' clock that day, he's in range. Enemy battle fleet in sight is relayed from HMS Neptune. The first time that by the British Mediterranean Fleet since Nelson. As ABC notes in his magnificent memoir, it was a great moment for Neptune. I mean, he's just splendid, isn't he? Anyway, Italian cruisers open fire, as does Warspite, at a range of 13 miles. The Italians then retreat behind a smoke screen. ABC and the fleet, you know, they press on. At 4:00 on the dot, the enemy flagship is hit. And the amazing thing is that Admiral Riccardi, who's on the. The Italian admiral who's on the. On the flagship. Flagship. He's an old friend of ABC's.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
They've known each other because they've been doing maneuvers and stuff in the early 1930s, don't forget, Italy was an ally, you know, originally.
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A
Yeah.
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B
The biggest exporter to Italy is Britain. In the 1930s, 90% of Italy's coal comes from Britain. So, you know, they're all. They're all sort of, not exactly besties, but, you know, they're on good, good order. And then suddenly it's sort of, you know, it's all changing anyway, but it's too much a bloody nose for Ricardi. And having been hit, he then sort of retreats and that's that.
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A
Yeah, but the point is, is the British press on? Don't give the Italians a minute off. You know, destroyers are pursuing the Italians and they get within. I mean, it's amazing. They get within 25 miles of the Italian coast. I mean, talk about making yourself vulnerable to air attack.
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B
Well, and they are vulnerable and they get attacked. And Warspites straddled by 24 different bombs at one point. But lo and behold, the Italians don't hit anything.
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A
Again, the thing to remember with all of this and those air raids are Malta earlier, it's everyone's first go, right? They're only going to get better at it. What's quite clear from Calabria is you need air cover, you need carriers, especially if you're going to do offensive oper. And here we go. Here's the classic Churchill early war, Churchill intervention, where he goes, look, there's an obvious solution here, writes a memo. So on the 12th of July, he writes to Ismate, the contacts we have had with the Italians encouraged the development of a more aggressive campaign against the Italian homeland by bombardment both from the air and sea. It also seemed desirable that the fleet should be able to use Malta more freely. A plan should be prepared to reinforce the air defences of Malta in the strongest manner with AA guns of various types and with airplanes. Yet a plan for the speediest anti aircraft reinforcements enforcement of Malta. Be prepared forthwith. Well, I'm not going to say it, but dream on.
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B
Pure Churchill, isn't it, that?
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A
Yeah, it's very Churchill. It's like, you know, he's got. There's all sorts of people between him, his conception of the action and the action being carried out. Certainly at this stage of the war when he's brand new and no one, they're thinking, oh God, here we go. Churchill also says to Dudley Pound, who we mentioned earlier, I do not understand what is meant by reviewing the whole Mediterranean situation. It is now three weeks since I vetoed the proposal to evacuate the Eastern Mediterranean and bring Admiral Cunningham's fleet to Gibraltar. I will hope there will be no return to that project. So, in other words, Navy's doing whatever it wants. And he might have said, sort this out, but they're not listening. This is what happens at this stage of the war, though, isn't it, when he's newly in office.
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B
Yes. To be fair, Malta does get reinforced, you know, don't forget, this is. This is. We're talking about July 1940 here. Well, you know, there is something else going on. At that point, Britain's quite distracted, so HMS Illustrious is sent to join the Mediterranean fleet. Get out there. And more supplies are sent, you know, so a series of convoys are arriving, you know, second of September, three ships, including a tanker, 40,000 tons reach grand Harbors, another one in November. You know, the truth is the Italians aren't really pressing home their attack. It's usual lack of enthusiasm from the actual people doing the fighting. First fighter pilot is only killed on 16 July, and only one of the gladiators is actually lost in the air. And that's Charity, which is shot down 31st of July, burning like a magnesium flare. Bits of it have been recovered. It's now being rebuilt, I'm glad to say. At Tucali, Italians have lost 12 aircraft by the end of July. It's a pretty small beer, isn't it, really?
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A
The Italians are coming to this stage of the war thinking it's the end of the war, right?
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B
Yeah, yeah, completely. And there's no plan, clearly, for invading Malta. They just think it's all going to be handled on plate. They're expecting Britain to sue for peace, so they're just, you know, this is just a sort of, this is a bit of pressurization.
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A
Well, show willing to Germany when Germany applies the thumb screws in whatever settlement's coming, isn't it? We had a go, so we deserve Malta.
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B
Yeah. But 12 more hurricanes arrive on the 2nd of August. Again, none of the pilots have been told beforehand. They all arrived in Malta thinking it's a staging post and then they're told that, you know, it's not. So Maynard as AOC, the Air Officer Commanding has now got 15 planes and 18 pilots. So the Malta Fighter Flight becomes 261 Squadron on 16 August. First Malta Squadron, the Illustrious, is now on its way to the Mediterranean. Also the battleship HMS Valiant. And both of these crucially have on board radar. And Churchill writes to ABC on the 8th of September.
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A
It is of high importance to strike at the Italians this autumn because as time passes the Germans will be more likely to lay strong hands upon the Italian war machine and then the picture will be very different. Different. And he's not wrong. Yeah, the prescience in that is quite something.
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B
No, he's absolutely spot on. And as it happens, ABC very has already been planning an attack and this is on the Italian fleet's harbour at Taranto, which is in the kind of soul of the boot of Italy. And he plans it to be launched on 21 October, which is Trafalgar Day, of course, as all naval types know. And this requires very careful reconnaissance, of course. And so three Glen Martin Marylands, which are twin engine bombers or reconnaissance craft, whatever you want to want them to be. The American built, they touched down at Lucca on 6th September again having flown over France on the way. You know, it's a risky route but pays off in this occasion. And one of those on board is one of the legends of Malta. He's a pilot called Adrian Warburton, but he's not flying. He's an, he's a navigate, he's doing the navigating. He's got an absolutely hopeless record. He is the qualified pilot in the RAF who flies the least in the Battle of Britain. He eventually gets his, you know, he's got his wings the previous year with a, with a below average mark. He's completely weird and eccentric. Marries a barmaid called Betty who's much older than him and already has a daughter in Portsmouth, does it in secret about telling any of his family and racks up gambling debts and is in a sort of. Yeah, he's in a terrible state. Awful at landing and awful at taking off as well. Anyway, he's sent to Moulton to get him away and as a navigator rather than a pilot. And the. The 431st reconnaissance flight is commanded by Flight Lieutenant Titch White, who's an Aussie. And he's just got to make the best of his limited resources, which is basically three aircraft, a few spares and a ragtag air crew. But the amazing thing about Warby, as he's known Adrian Warburton, is that he quickly proves excellent as a navigator and really amazing at spotting ships. He just has this incredible 2020 vision, superb eyesight. And when Malta Dog, which is a sort of particularly virulent form of dysentery, gets one of Whiteley's pilots, he's forced to give Warburton another go. So on his first flight, you know, his sortie is abandoned owing to hydraulic failure and the aircraft crashed on landing. And what really happens is he zigzags so bad taking off that the wheels come off.
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A
Jeepers.
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B
So he's nearly taken off flying again, but they're so short of pilots that Whiteley doesn't really have any choice. And so on his second flight, Warby does manage to take off and land again without mishap. And so from there, after, he's starting to be used a bit more frequently. I think the big problem is he just hasn't had enough flying hours, is the truth of it.
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A
Yeah, well, and also, I mean, these Marylands, it's different types, isn't it? Everything takes some getting used to. But he becomes like a scene through the story of the Siege of Altar, as we'll see. Well, so Cunningham's, you know, needs no encouragement by Churchill for being aggressive, as you've pointed out, he's planning this attack on Taranto, but he's also asking for more submarines because in the Med, the possibilities for submarine warfare are fantastic, aren't they? It's the truth.
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B
Yeah, absolutely. And so Commander George Shrimp Simpson, he's always known as shrimp, he's 39 years old, he's hugely experienced submariner. He served in submarines since 1921. At the time of his appointment, he's the second in command of the 3rd Submarine Flotilla at Half Carriage on the East Anglian coast. But then in September, he's given his orders to go, to go to fly to Egypt and then take over on Malta. And the Malta submarine base is. It's going to be Set up on Manual island, which is this little island in the middle of Marsamshet Harbour, which is the one to the north of Valletta. There's a building there called the Lazaretto and this is the old quarantine. So because, you know, people were coming into enter Malta, they were, they were quarantined there until they're sort of cleared of smallpox or whatever. And it's the most amazing place. I mean it's always, it's been under construction and development and scaffolding ever since been going to the island but. And it still is to this day. But I did get on there about a dozen years ago and you can see all this incredible graffiti on the walls, including one from Byron, Caravaggio was there and various others. I mean, it is the most amazing place. But this is going to be the submarine base and they're also going to be given a new type of submarine, which is the Unity class. And these are really training boats. They're much, much smaller, with a crew of only kind of sort of 3132. You know, the bigger British submarines are about sort of 80 to 90 meters long. The U class are nothing like that. But the key thing that they're USP for the Mediterrane Mediterranean, so very quick to dive. And you need this because the waters in the Mediterranean are very clear, so it's very easy to spot them from the air. Very different to operating in the Atlantic.
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A
Yeah.
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B
So they're on their way again, they're not there yet but, you know, things are in motion. In the meantime, ABC is now planning to use HMS Illustrious is one aircraft carrier for the attack on the Italian fleet. So these are Swordfish. Fairy Swordfish. I think we're big fans of Swordfish, aren't we?
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A
Yes, I think so. I think we're happy, happy with being fans of the Sword.
- [38:19]
B
Swordfish known as string bags.
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A
And this is on us, isn't us being ironic? Like about the. The Defiant, which looks great in black, but that's the extent of it, right. The thing about the Swordfish is don't let the appearance fool you. What you need on an aircraft carrier, if you need a torpedo attack vessel, is something that can take off and land really, really easily from an aircraft carrier. Right. And you need something that can fly low and stably and under the radar, are just above the waves and deliver a torpedo quietly and efficiently, and that's the Swordfish. And you know, they're not that different in their performance, save from the kind of anti submarine strike helicopters that Follow after the war. No one ever says, oh, helicopters can only do 120 knots because that's all they can do. The Swordfish is a great piece of kit. End of discussion.
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B
Yeah. Designed for three men, usually just two. So you would have a pilot and then you'd have a tag, which is a telegraphist, air gunner. So he'd have his machine guns, defiant style at the. At the back, a brace of Lewis guns. But it also have a radio set as well, open cockpit. To carry out this attack, you also need reconnaissance photographs to know what you're attacking. And so this Is where the 431 reconnaissance flight operating from Malta come in. And this is where Warby really makes his name as one of the Maltese legends. Because when they first fly over on the 9th of October, Warburton is flying as navigator to the CEO, ticks Whiteley. And the CEO is just, you know, Whiteley's completely stunned that Warburton not only picks out all the ships, but names them and they're later 100% confirmed. So he just absolutely nailed it. 10th of October, Warby flies himself and takes excellent photographs. And suddenly everyone's sort of going, well, maybe we underestimated this guy. And maybe. Actually he's pretty impressive. There's then a fire in one of illustrious hangars. So this sets back the date. So it's postponed From Trafalgar down 21st October to the next suitable moon, which is 11th November on Armistice Day. And that gives them time for, obviously for more reconnaissance flights. So on the 30th of October, the weather's really poor, but Warby still flies to Toronto and still gets his pictures by coming in incredibly low under the cloud, loads of flak, gets his pictures, gets out again. On his way back, runs into Italian seaplane, shoots it down, you know, so he's obviously pretty good in the air as well. A few days later, the weather is still bad, but the plan attack is getting closer. So Warby flies in again at zero feet. The barrage balloons are low because the cloud is so. So Warby weaves between them and catches the enemy completely unaware. Again. He gets out just as the flak is getting going, but has counted six battleships, not five. And he thinks, oh, there were only five yesterday. And he says, you absolutely sure? To the, to the guys with him. And the guy goes, yeah, yeah, definitely sick. So he goes, well, Morby goes, no, I'm gonna have to go in again. Goes in so low they're almost skimming the water. They count five this time. The sixth one had been a cruiser. On the way out, they're pursued by four Italian planes and Warby's rear gunner shoots down a CR42, which is a biplane, and another seaplane, so he's now got three. They get back to Malta and when they land, they discover that one of the ship's aerials tangled around the tail wheel. Christ, it's quite impressive, isn't it? How cool is that? That's absolutely amazing. So then he flies two more times over Taranto. So the final time is on the very afternoon of the 11th of November, and this time they really do count six battleships along with 14 cruisers and 27 destroyers. And Taranto is quite interesting because there's a gran mare, which is the. The main harbor, which is sort of out to sea kind of thing. And then there's a sort of. There's a piccolo mare, which is the kind of inner. You go up, there's a little sort of bridge which you can go under a little channel which leads into this sort of inland harbor which is where the. Where the destroyers are. The plan is for two types of attacks and it's the same for both. So aircraft will go in, drop flares to light up the battleships which are the prime targets. And these are all in the Mario Grande. They then dive bomb the cruisers and destroyers while the strike force attacks the battleships. And then that's repeated the second attack. So first squadron takes off of stringbags, takes off at 8:35pm Moon is high, sky's clear, no clouds around, just a few thin clouds sort of flitting across the moon. All the rest of it, just before 11 o' clock at night, the harbour defences hear them begin firing and most of the aircraft get through and carry out the attacks as planned. And the second squadron arrives just before midnight. And in the entire attack, only two planes are lost.
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A
Yeah, I mean, it's extraordinary, isn't it, the fact that the Italians. It's not. They've been given clues by relentless recce of their ships in the harbour. Think they'd be on better readiness for the possibility, especially on a moonlit night. I mean, in itself, but 431 Ricky Flight go back the next day to look at how this has gone. Obviously everyone wants to know if the attack has been a success. ABC's Pacing the Bridge on Warspite and it has. They've sunk three. Sunk or damaged three battleships, a cruiser and two destroyers have been damaged. It's a real proper blow for the Italians. That's really underlined by the Fact, they move to Naples, which is further from Malta. They bug out, basically. And it means that convoys will be able to run more so safely. It's a real result for the ABC's posture in the Mediterranean, isn't it?
- [43:16]
B
Yeah, really. And it's, and it's showing that the Royal Navy has bested the Italian fleet, you know, and the Italian fleet has had a sort of massive confidence dent. The Mediterranean fleet has had a massive confidence boost.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And it's just made life easier for Malta. And this is proved by the fact that, you know, the end of November another convoy reaches, reaches the island with no losses. Another 20,000 tons is delivered later in November, the fourth, you know, the fourth West Kents arrive, plus yet more guns, spare barrels, ammo, gun crews, RAF ground crew. Three and a half thousand men, you know, arrive to kind of bolster the island. There's one really bad incident though, which is when eight hurricanes are flown to the island, 12 are sent and eight of them get lost. They run out, you know, because the leader just doesn't know how to find it, can't do it. And they ditch into the sea and they're all drowned. They're all just lost. God, I mean, how desperate is that? But, you know, the truth is by the end of 1940, Malta's in pretty good heart. The island is still, it's not strong and you know, it could be a lot better, but the defenses are getting stronger. They've got more anti aircraft guns, heavier and light. Harbors are now defended, the airfields are defended. You know, the submarines are on their way to join the Malta submarine base. And there's Beauforts and Blenheim's and Wellingtons arriving on the island. But it has to be said trouble is brewing, you know, because the Germans are entering the Mediterranean. So Sphere.
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A
Yeah. As Churchill says, as time passes, the Germans will turn their attention. We're more likely to lay strong hands upon the Italian war machine. And this is exactly what happens. It's Raeder at the Kriegsmarine who's very, Admiral Raeder is very worried about what Malta and the British holding Malta and their naval presence amounts to in terms of a threat and Goering as well. I mean, you know, quite interesting that the Germans can figure this out. And Raeder says to Hitler, the naval staff regards the British fleet as a decisive factor for the outcomes of war. It is no longer possible to drive it from the Mediterranean as we have so often proposed post. So he gets it. And the Luftwaffe, you know, again, at this stage of the war, have Been at full stretch, although Hitler has posted Fleeck Corps 10, which is 200 aircraft from Norway to Sicily. So by the beginning of January, by the turn of the year, they're now set up, they're ready to go and add their weight to what's going on in the Mediterranean. Cunningham's at Malta over Christmas and then goes back to Alex before heading out again. And this is the thing, when we say Cunningham, what we mean is him and his fleet, him and his effort, they're out at sea because he's. Because he's a fighting admiral. He's not doing it from a bunker, is he?
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B
Well, you can't attack anything if you're in your own harbour, can you?
- [45:44]
A
No, exactly. Exactly. He's going back to Alex. He heads out again on the 7th of January to meet the latest convoy that's coming from Gibraltar. The second convoy of two ships follows out of Alex. But it's dawn of the 10th of January and northwest of Malta steering to intercept the enemy convoy. And you got your fairy Fulmars. Another Fleet Air Arm type that probably we're best skipping over. They're flying above, keeping watch. HMS Gallant, a destroyer hits a mine. And then at 12:30pm Two Italian torpedo bombers swoop in low and undetected. But the full, the full Mars tried to deal with them. But minutes later a much, much larger formation appears. Unfortunately it's Fliegerkorps 10, ladies and gentlemen, 40 students stukas. So a proper effort, they put a huge anti aircraft flat barrage up. But these 40 stukas all come for Illustrious. So the Germans know exactly what they're doing. And as we said, you know, ABC is too fascinated to be frightened. Mesmerized by the spectacle.
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B
I can totally understand that. I think if I was watching 40 Stukas peeling off and attacking an aircraft carrier, I think I'd just be mesmerized by. With excitement.
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A
I could manage being frightened as well. No, I can manage both. They're not, they're not necessary.
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B
Do you not think you should sort of take cover? Oh, no, no. I'm far too mesmerized and interested by this fascinating sight to be taken cover. My word. Look at that isn't. I mean, one has to just admire them.
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A
Goodness, goodness. They're awfully well trained, aren't they? Yes, sir.
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B
One can tell that these are real experts. So the sky becomes a mass of twisting planes, exploding shells as puffs of anti aircraft fire bursting around all over the place as fierce fires on the deck of the Illustrious and you know, soon covered with extinguisher foam, but all also bits of debris and the wing of a Stuka and oh my God, thick smoke mushrooming into the sky. Anyway, but the Illustrious is still afloat, the engines are still going and it just needs to reach Malta by nightfall and then it might have a chance because perhaps it could sort of be repaired there and they can make good its escape. It's attacked later on that afternoon, but by this time it's within sight of Malta. And it's really interesting because people on the island can hear this naval battle raging. I remember talking to a young, a guy called Michael Montebello who'd only be a 10 year old boy at the time, and he said he can remember hearing it and thinking, oh my God, what's this coming, coming our way. But it does, it makes, it gets into grand harbour straddled by three tugs and at 9pm on 10 January it's berthed at the Parlatorio Wharf which is on the west side of Frenchman's Creek, which is the innermost of these inlets of the three cities. And above it is a Corradino Heights. So it's kind of sort of the western side of it. You can tuck yourself in quite neatly. I mean you are quite well protected, detected. And the amazing thing, and also of course, of course the defenses are better by this point.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And what they've done is they've set the anti aircraft guns into a box barrage. So they're all geared to detonate at different heights. So anyone attacking is just going into effectively a wall of splintering shrapnel and explosions. That's, that's the idea behind it. So once it's in there, it's absolutely by no means safe. You know, I wouldn't want to give that impression. But it does have a chance.
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A
Yeah.
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B
But Malta is very much braced, knows that attacks are coming and defending the island by this point are only 16 serviceable hurricanes, two gladiators and the surviving aircraft from Illustrious, which are now kind of flown off and are based at how far. Yeah, they've got Wellington, so they're sent to strike airfields in Sicily. But it's absolutely clear that the brunt of the defence of the Illustrious is going to be the anti aircraft gunners. So there's this waiting, incredible waiting that happens. You know, Nothing happens on the 12th of January. Few Stukas appear on the, on the 13th it's all, all really strangely quiet. And actually it's not until Thursday 16 January, almost a week after it's first arrived on A bright and sunny day that the attacks come. I mean, that's bizarre, isn't it? I mean, what are they thinking?
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A
No, they're thinking it's not going anywhere. Let's get ourselves sorted. Let's be absolutely sure of what we're attacking. I think it's really, really striking that you've gone from the Italian sort of having a go and showing willing and dropping the odd bomb here and all this sort of stuff. Stuff and, and basically bugging out the minute things go wrong at Taranto to the Germans being right. Okay, the thing we have to strike is the aircraft carrier. Our best way of doing it is xyz. Let's make sure we know exactly where it is because after all, the Taranto attack is delayed and held off. And, you know, and I think this shows that you're up against professionals now rather than sort of have a go, Italian attitude.
- [50:15]
B
Yeah, I never thought of that. But I think you're absolutely right.
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A
You're getting the ducks in a row. They know that there will be preparations in Malta, but they're confident that they know exactly where their target is and what they've got to do to strike it. Because the other thing is they don't do this in half measures. And so the planning for that might take a couple of extra days too. And they want perfect weather. What you're looking at is more than 100 aircraft sent to attack the illustrious. And it's two o' clock when the siren goes. Three cities. The three cities are engulfed by waves of bombs. Sanglier, closest to Frenchman's Creek, is absolutely hammered. There's aircraft everywhere. The flak, exploding, shells, puffs of smoke, tons of noise.
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B
Grand Harbour disappears.
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A
Yeah, everything. Yeah, Stukas are being hit. But that is the kind of. The deal with Stukas is that you're going to lose a few, aren't you? Trailing smoke, exploding in midair, crashing into the harbor just in front of Senglea Point. And bombs landing on Valletta. As John Ajuice is a Maltese civilian at the Royal Air Force headquarters in Scott street, says with all the stuff coming down and all the stuff going up was the most terrific din. Absolute, absolutely terrific. And Shrimp Simpson is on Malta, says looking up. The bombers are in flights of five, like arrowheads in a straight line at precise intervals of about 800 yards as far as the eye could see. Silver flashes around and above them indicated their fighter escorts clinting in the sun. So the Germans are doing this properly, they're giving it the, the treatment. But they don't hit Illustrious it's amazing.
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B
Don't hit it once. No, but they're effectively attacking blind and they're flat. They're attacking down into this box. Barrage. And that's a problem. But the amazing thing is, after this attack on the 16th of January, the next day, Sangler, you know, the first of the three cities, a complete ghost town. Everyone's. Everyone's bugged out, including my old friend Michael Montebello, who'd been separated from his mother at the time when the bombing happened. So as you can imagine, you know, when they found each other later on that afternoon, there was sort of a tearful reunion. But anyway, the Luftwaffe return again in strength on Saturday 18th January to 20 days later, and they're also attacking the airfields of Lucca and Halfar. But actually, most of the fighters have been now transferred to Takali, which wasn't hit. And again, the second attack, Illustrious survives. And again on the 19th of January, it's attacked on at 8:30. Second round is 11:00am, and this time with Junkers 88s as well. Huge clouds of smoke and dust. Again, you know, this protects the carrier because they just can't see it. And by the end of the day, the town of the three cities have lost, you know, 100 people and 330 buildings. But these attacks have really badly hurt the Luftwaffe. And on the night of 23rd January, Illustra has been sufficiently patched up to make good its escape. Leaves Malta. Steering gear's been fixed so it can head out on its own. Steve, it's still looking an absolute mess, but it can. It can function properly at 24 knots. And it slips out and it safely makes it to Alexandria on the afternoon of the 25th of January. I mean, really, it's something of a miracle. But the thing is, the illustrious blitz, as it becomes known, is really, really. That's the start of the siege of Malta proper. You know, it's one thing a few Savoy Marchetti's coming over at 12,000ft. Luftwaffe, that's a whole different ball game. Yeah, it's clearly a pretty major test for the Maltese. The Maltese defenders, but also the, you know, the Maltese islanders, but they come through. But it's absolutely clear that the defences are not remotely strong enough for all the reinforcements they've had since June. You know, they are not ripe already for repelling a concerted and prolonged attack. Yeah.
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A
Right. Well, the siege of Malta is underway proper. We're going to look at how in the next episode, Malta strikes back and makes itself very difficult for the axis in lots of ways with things we've talked about. Submarines, the swordfish, of course, Wellington's Wimpies, and Force K from Malta. So join us for our next episode and if you want to listen to all these in one go, and forgive me if you've heard the spiel before, if you're a regular listener, subscribe to our Patreon, where all sorts of other goodies trickle through to you. And we will see you for our next episode as Malta gives some back to the enemy. Thanks for listening. Cheerio.
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B
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