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Mason Hereford — chef, author, and owner of Turkey and the Wolf — joins Robert St. John and Drew Wooton at the High Hat Cafe for Episode 4 of Ya Gotta Eat.

Mason is one of the most original voices in American food today. His counter-service sandwich shop, Turkey and the Wolf, has been named one of the most important restaurants of the decade by Food & Wine and Esquire, and was crowned Bon Appétit’s Best New Restaurant in America. He’s also a New York Times bestselling cookbook author — but titles only tell part of the story.

In this episode, the conversation goes far beyond the kitchen. We talk about the realities of running restaurants, personal responsibility, and how culture, place, and work ethic shape the way we live and eat. From quirky gas stations and unexpected food finds to bigger ideas about America, creativity, and timing — this is a thoughtful, honest conversation with someone who sees the world a little differently.

Ya Gotta Eat is built on one idea:

Food brings people together. Stories keep us together.

Watch or listen to Episode 4 — because… Ya Gotta Eat!