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Tyler
Superman has just gotta be one of the worst superheroes. I think he's the best superhero, probably. Really? It's just too good. Well, it's like, okay, you made an invincible guy unvincible. Invincible? You made invincible. You literally can't Vince him. You can't convince me. You can't Vince him. That's why Vince Vaughn has never played him. He's unvincible. He's. He's invincible. So, like, wow, that's really, like, a good plot. It's like, nothing can hurt this guy. Well, except for what's his. Kryptonite. Kryptonite. I know, I know. No, I know. They just like, oh, yeah, there's this from another world that's gonna show up on Earth and just make him not good. I mean, just. Just the plot writing. Who wrote. Who wrote that? Stan Lee. Who. Who's. I think so. No, he's. He's dc, so he's not Stanley. I don't know. Whoever did, it's just not your best work. He just could have. You know, you can fly. You can. He's. He's just invincible. Right? Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much it. And I don't. I mean, granted, I haven't seen any Superman movies, but, like, Batman's got a sick backstory. Right. His parents died. Spoilers. Spider Man. He also can fly. Yeah. And if you shoot him, he will die. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, what I'm saying is, like, they both have, like, really solid reasons that motivate them to be, like, good and be who they are. Superman is just like. He's just born like that. Off. Tyler's here right now. You correct us so much. Oh, my God. Yeah. Oh, well, you'll see. Jake, that is not canyon. If you. If you go into a. That is not a canyon event. Yeah. And. Well, actually, that's not canon. He retconned it. He. Tyler loves saying Retcon, which is retroactive. Canon. Canon. Or something like that. They, like, retroactively write stuff into the story. Just Retcon. Red. Like, retina. What is it? Retcon. Redcon. Rhett. Retcon. Retcon. Like Thomas Rhett Cod. I think that there's. There's probably a thousand instances in the world ever that people use the word canon. And Tyler's, like, 898 of those references come from Tyler. Yeah. Tyler loves lore. It's like when Tyler was born, you know, like, on Google Search. It'll, like, show the trends of words and stuff. You can track it from when Tyler was born and could start talking the can. The word canon had a big spike using that. The last time he used canon was, like, 1904. And then Tyler shows up and is a huge spike. He's bringing it back. I wouldn't be surprised when he has his fourth kid. That is. The kid's gotta be named Cannon. Nick Cannon. Yeah, That's Tyler's Nick Cannon. And it actually would work with his rhyming naming scheme. They all start with the letter C. That's true. Oh, yeah. It works perfectly. So we're going to get Canon Nick Ziggler as his next kid. Nick, write that down. Write it down. It's just. I don't know. Superman is. You know, they're making a new one, right? Is that why you. Yeah, Billboard for it. And I was just like, wow, that movie sucks. What I think is really funny is that there's, like, a big reveal for who's going to be the next Superman, like, what actor they're going to pick. And, like, nobody cares. They make it a huge deal that it's like, who's Superman is this. Who cares? Yeah. If it's not Vince Vaughn, I'm not in. He's invincible. Yeah. Who would be the best Superman? Like, Danny DeVito would be really funny to pick a Superman. See, that's what they got to do. Like, you know how. Go flip it. Yeah. Like, Deadpool was great because he was kind of an sarcastic character. People like that. Whatever. That's what he's got to do with Superman. He's run its course culturally. People don't. Yeah. I mean, it's like the star quarterback being a superhero. It's like, that's not very fun. You want the nerdy guy who gets shoved in a locker to suddenly get powers, and then he comes back and he saves the day. Spider Man. Spider man, yeah. Oh, yeah. You want this guy to be orphaned, be bitten by a bat, comes back, it's like. So it's like. And you want him to be orphans, too? You. You just want him to be orphaned? Batman's not Batman if he ain't orphan. All right. I like this kid. He's got some superpowers. Somebody kill his parents. Somebody kill. He doesn't have superpowers. That's true. No, I. Well, I mean, being rich is a superpower, so that is true. Be the best power of all. Let's see, you know, like, the guy. Like Aquaman. How did Aquaman come to be. He's a DC comic. He's got no good backstory. Isn't he? He's not Marvel. No, no, no. DC Comics. A guy that just likes walking around shirtless with jean shorts on. Is that Wolverine? And he just gets his. Oh, and turns green. Like. That's a great story. You just take steroids. I liked wearing shirts. It wouldn't, you know, if he was always green and angry all the time. Not as good. It's like, relax, Hulk. Literally. That's what people are like. Yeah, we didn't morph into the Hulk if he just was the Hulk. That's why the Thing didn't become a thing. He just was always a rock. You know, he could never be paper or scissors. He was his only rock. And he was getting beat every time in that someone's papering his ass. Yeah. All the time. Yeah. Why is the villain in that thing not paper? Paper man. That's a great paper boy. Yeah, it's a paper boy. You know, that's why, you know, the Mr. Fantastic is way more popular than the Thing. The Thing is just always rock. The Hulk morphs back and forth. There's some dynamic. Superman's always super. He's not the sometime Superman. Maybe that's how they got to fix him. Well, he's Clark Cat. Yeah, but he's. He's a journalist, isn't he? Or is that. Yes. He works for the Daily Planet. This is something like that. Yeah. Lex Luthor. So, anyway, yeah, that. That's my superhero rant, guys. If you want more, you bet your radio you gotta check out our Patreon. 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Release Date: July 14, 2025
Hosts: Myles ("You Betcha" Guy), Ryan, Tyler, and Jerrod
The episode kicks off with a lively debate about what constitutes the "best" and "worst" superheroes. Tyler initiates the conversation by challenging the conventional admiration of Superman, sparking a spirited discussion among the hosts.
This dichotomy sets the stage for an analysis of Superman's character strengths and weaknesses within the superhero pantheon.
Tyler argues that Superman's inherent invincibility undermines his character's relatability and narrative tension. He criticizes the reliance on Kryptonite as a plot device that weakens the character's standalone strength.
The hosts humorously discuss the impracticality of casting choices, joking that Vince Vaughn has never portrayed Superman because of his invincibility.
The conversation highlights how Superman's near-absolute power can stifle storytelling opportunities compared to other superheroes with more defined vulnerabilities.
The hosts contrast Superman with characters like Batman and Spider-Man, emphasizing the importance of personal backstory and relatable motivations in creating compelling heroes.
Myles [00:45]: "Batman’s got a sick backstory. Right. His parents died. Spoilers."
Jerrod [01:00]: "Spider-Man also can fly. Yeah. And if you shoot him, he will die."
They argue that superheroes like Batman and Spider-Man possess personal struggles and motivations that make their heroism more engaging and their stories more dynamic.
Tyler delves into the concept of "canon" and "retcon" (retroactive continuity), illustrating his passion for lore and the intricate details that maintain a superhero's storyline over time.
The hosts laugh over Tyler's frequent references to canon, noting how his enthusiasm keeps these terms relevant in everyday conversations.
Tyler's dedication to maintaining and discussing canon exemplifies the deep engagement fans can have with superhero narratives, ensuring continuity and depth in their favorite characters' stories.
The discussion shifts to contemporary Superman media, particularly recent movies and casting decisions. The hosts express discontent with the current direction of Superman's portrayal in film.
They critique the emphasis on the reveal of a new Superman actor, deeming it unnecessary and uninteresting unless it involves unconventional casting choices.
The hosts fantasize about more quirky and fitting actors for Superman, such as Danny DeVito, to bring a fresh and humorous take to the character.
Expanding beyond Superman, the hosts discuss the essential elements that make superhero backstories compelling. They emphasize the importance of trauma, personal growth, and unique powers in defining a hero's journey.
Additionally, they critique other superheroes like Aquaman and the Hulk, pointing out inconsistencies and superficial traits that detract from their depth.
Ryan [06:00]: "Aquaman comes to be. He's a DC comic. He's got no good backstory."
Myles [06:15]: "That's why the Thing didn't become a thing. He just was always a rock."
These insights reflect the hosts' appreciation for well-developed characters and their skepticism towards superheroes who lack substantial personal narratives.
Wrapping up their analysis, the hosts reflect on Superman's unwavering nature and its impact on his character's effectiveness as a superhero.
They conclude that Superman's static portrayal limits his potential for growth and adaptation, unlike other heroes who evolve through their experiences and challenges.
In this episode of You Betcha Radio, the hosts engage in a thorough critique of Superman as a superhero, questioning his invincibility and narrative depth compared to other icons like Batman and Spider-Man. Through humor and insightful commentary, they explore the importance of relatable backstories and dynamic character development in making a superhero truly compelling. Tyler's enthusiasm for lore and canon adds depth to the conversation, while the group's collective wit ensures an entertaining and thought-provoking discussion for listeners.