We Made It Weird #248

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: You Made It Weird with Pete Holmes
Episode: We Made It Weird #248 ("40 Quick Ones")
Date: April 24, 2026
Main Theme:
This fast-paced, freewheeling episode of “We Made It Weird” is built around the challenge of condensing an episode into 40 minutes (“40 Quick Ones”), as Pete and Val riff through personal quirks, British accents, the mirage of AGI, Pete’s wild edible experience in Dallas, and what makes live, “imperfect” human art uniquely valuable in an AI age.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The “40 Quick Ones” Format (00:22–02:25)

• Pete and Val set out to run through topics quickly, inspired by the “speed dating” mentality.
• The episode is intentionally rushed and filled with playful urgency.
• Pete comments on the format:

  “We got right into it.” (00:34, Pete)

• Val interrupts throughout, accelerating the tempo and leaning into the bit.

British Accents, Comedy, & Personal Anecdotes (02:25–14:30)

• The pair go off on a comedic tangent about band names with exclamation points and the oddities of Britishisms.
• Val discusses her “irreversible and, like, overpowering attraction to the British accent,” rooted in a travel story at age 15 (11:51).
• Pete adds a story about a Londoner’s “You got dressed in the dark today, darling” burn (13:34).

Tangent: Childhood, Food, & Egg Preferences (05:13–08:20)

• Pete and Val dissect Pete’s aversion to hard-boiled eggs, drawing parallels to ‘rubber bands on braces’ (06:43).
• They reflect on generational trends, e.g., “spelling boobs on a calculator is where blinking 12 was in 1985.” (04:55, Pete)
• Val raises modern protein trends for aging women, likening it to the “water craze of the early 90s.” (08:48)

AI, AGI, and the Business of Fear (19:33–27:50)

• Pete shares fresh insights about ChatGPT and the dangers of anthropomorphizing AI:
  • AI doesn’t “know what it’s saying”—it merely reflects what’s fed to it (20:11).
  • AGI is not a certainty but is marketed as such to gain resources and avoid regulation:

    “It’s not a certainty. I don’t think any scientists…well, I think they are saying it’s a certainty, so I don’t know. I could be totally wrong. Nobody tunes into this podcast for AI news, and that’s really good for me.” (23:55, Pete)

• Val and Pete compare AGI hype to the “space race,” emphasizing how companies and governments sell existential risk for profit and power (22:24, Val).
• Pete discusses the “AI psychosis” phenomenon:
  • Even intelligent people can be manipulated by AI dialogue into grandiose or delusional thinking.
  • Mo Bitar’s YouTube channel is lauded for nuanced AI analysis (27:07).
  • Pete:

    “This thing…is incredibly good at manipulating you.” (25:48, Pete)

  • Val:

    “We haven’t evolved the parts of our brains that can distinguish this voice…that behaves like humans do—mirroring and fawning.” (26:03, Val)

  • They refer to ChatGPT as “a child of an alcoholic” for its mirroring and people-pleasing behavior (26:27).

The Value of Raw, Live Human Art in the AI Era (30:06–32:59)

• Pete describes recording live shows in Dallas, the spontaneous energy, and considering them for his next comedy special:

  “Maybe the premium used to be on a tracking shot and a jib and beautiful lights…and now…the recitation of the material, it can be really crackling.” (32:20, Pete)

• This realness is, to Pete, “the opposite of AI” and a way to create art AI can’t mimic:

  “It’s forcing us—human—get weird, get alive in a non-mimicable way.” (32:22, Pete)

• Reflects on Shane Gillis’s special as an example of low-fi, high-impact authenticity.

Pete’s Outrageous Delta-8/One Edible Experience (33:00–45:14)

• Pete recounts an accidental “overdose” on a massive weed edible after Dallas shows:
  • “Five [milligrams] is a normal dose for me. I don’t do weed very often.” (33:33, Pete)
  • He mistakenly consumes half a “Delta One” edible, about 75mg—several times his usual dose.
  • While waiting for a ride, he realizes he is “so stoned…like a limp noodle bending to the left. I kind of forget where we are. Only that room exists.” (35:14, Pete)
  • Describes his experience as “exactly like being on mushrooms…I was on mushrooms alone in my hotel.” (40:26, Pete)
  • Finds unexpected peace:

    “There was this aggressive yes to the situation…what’s wrong with right now if you don’t think about it?” (41:00, Pete)

  • Alludes to John Wheeler/Sailor Bob Adamson’s teachings: “What’s wrong with right now if you don’t think about it?”
  • Ends the night embracing self-love:

    “I put my hand on my chest and on my belly…It was the most natural thing in the world…radiating intense, intense love.” (41:54, Pete)

Aftermath, Music, & Groovy Acceptance (43:00–46:10)

• The experience lingers; Pete spends days feeling unfocused and “baked, eating like shit.”
• Redeems the ordeal by leaning into the beauty of music and non-dual compassion:

  “The perfection of reality…it’s all one fucking thing…it’s a process. I’m in it. Relax…It’s the same words, but, like, the meaning got pushed into my bones from 75 milligrams of THC.” (44:21, Pete)

• Val admits, “Being alone is my nightmare in that [state].” (45:44, Val)
• Pete shares a new mantra: “Yes, thank you. As soon as I remember, just go with it.” (45:51)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On AI hype & business:
  “They make a lot of money by selling the story: ‘We could all die! We could all die! We could all die!’ That’s the fastest way to get checks written and to get regulations lifted.” (23:12, Pete)
• On the danger of believing AI is sentient:
  “This thing…is incredibly good at manipulating you. And you don’t see it coming.” (25:48, Pete)
• On unique human connection in art:
  “It’s forcing us human—get weird, get alive in a non-mimicable way…” (32:22, Pete)
• On riding out a bad trip:
  “What’s wrong with right now if you don’t think about it?...It shifted into this glorious trip. I’m laughing, and I was saying to the room, ‘no notes.’ No notes. Meaning I wouldn’t change a thing.” (41:00, Pete)
• New mantra for life:
  “Yes, thank you…just go with it. It’s the most basic thing, but just go with it.” (45:51, Pete)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 00:22 — “40 Quick Ones” episode challenge introduced
• 03:04–03:38 — Bit about comedy names and British band title punctuation
• 05:13–08:20 — Hard-boiled egg aversion and generational jokes
• 11:51–14:30 — Val and Pete’s British accents and travel stories
• 19:33–27:50 — Deep dive: AGI, AI business, manipulation, AI psychosis
• 30:06–32:59 — “Realness” in art: live comedy special reflections
• 33:00–45:14 — Pete’s edible trip story: full recount of effects and insights
• 45:11–46:10 — Post-trip lessons, music appreciation, and mantras

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Tone & Style

• Playful, fast-paced, and personal.
• Seamless, unscripted banter between Pete and Val, oscillating between humor, philosophical reflections, and vulnerable storytelling.
• Language is informal, digressive, and self-aware, with plenty of laughter, sidebars, and sharp comedic timing.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• No matter how weird your “secret weirdness” is, Pete and Val make space for it—whether it’s food phobias, stoned misadventures, or overthinking AI.
• The episode champions the irreplicable value of authentic, imperfect, lived human experience, especially in art and comedy, as a contrast to the rise of AI.
• Even dizzying, uncomfortable moments (a bad edible, existential anxiety, or awkward adolescence in London) can be transformative—or at least funny—if you just “say yes, thank you, and go with it.”

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Keep it crispy.

Transcript

[A]

Lemonade. You made it Weird with Pete Holmes.

[B]

What's happening, weirdos?

[A]

Welcome to a new one. This is called 40 quick ones.

[B]

This is like. What is it called? Like a business. Not business lunch. Like a speed lunch. Like speed dating. Speed dating.

[A]

But I don't think you're going to feel. Feel that missing 20. This is a great app.

[B]

You just get right into it.

[A]

We got right into it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're glad you're here. This intro is going to be super short. My special silly, silly Fun Boys on YouTube. You can pre order my book spells to cast on your parents. It's a kid's book, obviously. What if you thought that was real? And go to PeteHomes.com for my tour dates. We have Largo coming up, which is going to be awesome. North Carolina. South Carolina. And thank you to everybody that came out to Dallas. Some of my favorite shows. We talk about that. And a very funny story involving too many drugs.

[B]

Gross. So stay tuned for that and get into it.

[A]

Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts. I. I can't stop scratching my downtown. Mm. Yeah. But I'm not itching to go downtown and tell a receptionist I'm here to talk about my downtown. Some things you'd rather type than say out loud. There's no question too embarrassing for Amazon Health AI. Chat your symptoms and get virtual care 24. 7. Healthcare just got less painful. I've already hit record because we gotta go. Oh, my God, we gotta go. It's a panic.

[B]

This is the 40 Fast Ones episode.

[A]

It's Panic at the disco.

[B]

I have to leave for luncheon. 40 minutes, remember? 40 minutes clean, remember?

[A]

I like this Harley Quinn kind of thing.

[B]

Does she talk like that?

[A]

Yeah, I've never.

[B]

I've never seen her.

[A]

Well, you're talking like her. Sounds like you swallowed her. I'm thrilled. And remember when, like, you know how panic at the disco is panic at the disco? Like the exclamation is in the middle?

[B]

Yeah. Get to it. Just still rush.

[A]

Val, we're in the episode now.

[B]

I just rushed the entire episode. Yes. Say this faster. Go ahead. No, this is Never stop adjusting in the chair.

[A]

Valerie, you're freaking me out.

[B]

Okay, sorry. I'm here now.

[A]

Okay, good. That was a long pause.

[B]

Yeah, five seconds that we'll never get back.

[A]

You are dreary today. I'm just kidding. I don't know why I said dreary. You are dreary today. Okay, all I was gonna say was that thing that I. Comedy bang. Bang. Comedy. It was like comedy bang. Exclamation. Point. Bang. Exclamation point.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It tried that trope of like, hello, Radio. Or long titles that there's an exclamation hiding in the middle. And like, it kind of tickles your brain. It kind of makes you feel like something's happening.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, it's panic. It's not Panic at the Disco. It's Panic at the Disco. Like, man, they gave it a go. I mean, that was the NFT. That was NFTs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'd like to buy an NFT of the words Panic at the disco.

[B]

But do you, like, for a million dollars, could you think of a third example?

[A]

I've never been more tempted to use ChatGPT in my life.

[B]

Yeah, you should.

[A]

Do you want me to?

[B]

No, no, no. I was going to say you should talk about your turn with that.

[A]

I've had muchos turns with chatgpt. Like, the cat look. The cat look. I just. I don't want to, like, you know, I have my thing where it's like, you don't want to be the people making fun of VCRs because they blink 12. They blink 12 like that. You can't set the clock. That was like, my childhood was like, oh, yeah, VCR is going to replace. Replace movies. It won't stop blinking 12. Like, that was.

[B]

Did the clocks not work?

[A]

You're too young.

[B]

Well, I had a VCR. Of course I had VCRs.

[A]

No, I know, but you're too young to have cared about, like, the trend, like the joke trend that it was like this from the Thing that Won't Stop. Like, Paula Poundstone was all over. Like, and now it's blanking. 12th. Yeah, like, it was the boobs. You know how boobs in a calculator. Writing boobs in a calculator. No, I know is that's in the joke market. Ah, spelling boobs on a calculator is where blinking 12 was in 1985.

[B]

Okay. Yes. Which was four years before I was born.

[A]

So. Yeah, I'm saying you missed. That's not true. Then it was 90s.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I do remember this isn't a VCR podcast. All I'm saying is with full acknowledgment, and I think this is necessary to the sheer miracle that is artificial intelligence.

[B]

Please share a call.

[A]

I knew when I went in the kitchen and saw you eating a hard boiled egg. Like the girl that. The girl that's so hot she can afford to eat on a hard boiled and still be the object of my desire eating.

[B]

I know. I actually really did.

[A]

An ingredient that was frozen in water. It's so stinky. It's so textural. It's so. No, I'm into. I'm not. I can't handle that. You know, I can't handle that. I know I'm paying you compliment that I saw you and didn't have any of that because I was like, look at that beautiful woman. What's that in her hand? Just keep moving.

[B]

I did. Okay, so you have a weird thing about eggs. You can only have them scrambled and every other way is absolutely disgusting to you.

[A]

Well, scrambled or omelette? Omeletted.

[B]

Omeletted, yeah. All that I would classify as.

[A]

Yeah. When it's turned into like a yellow paste that can then be cooked.

[B]

Yeah. But you, but especially hard boiled, you hate. And, and you.

[A]

Let's be real.

[B]

I had the kitchen to myself for two hours.

[A]

I just banged the.

[B]

And like, I didn't know what you were doing in here. And then I really did think when I heard you coming out, I was like, of course he's coming. While I'm hard boiling eggs and about to eat this.

[A]

I just want to say respect. I'm sure it's wonderful. And in some sort of post apocalyptic situation, I'd be loving them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is just a, it's just a block.

[B]

It's just a block.

[A]

I'm wrong. But we can also. I can be wrong. And they are the rubber bands on your braces of foods.

[B]

Well, sure. They're rubber. Anything of anything. They're the most rubbery foods.

[A]

Oh, that's what you picked up on. I picked up on like it's the kid eating the hard boiled egg that has the braces and he's, he's taking his rubber bands out. Don't laugh. It's like a hard nerd food with respect to my peeps.

[B]

But look at the. But listen, listen to me now, okay?

[A]

Remember when Ira went tell the trut.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yes.

[A]

When kids ask me questions that I don't like, I give them a big wind up.

[B]

And, and by the way, by when kids ask you questions you don't like, it's when any kid talks to you, that isn't Leela.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[B]

You try to confuse and double talk them until they don't know what's happening.

[A]

Yeah. It's not even that I don't like it. He said, where is Leela? And she was in the bathroom. And I went, leela actually has to talk to President Ronald Reagan. Do you know that name? He's the president in the 80s. And she needs to get a second passport for South America and because we want to set up a residency in Chile. Do you know Chile? Part of Chile is southeast of the equator. Some of it's right on the equator and some of it's north of the equator. We're actually hoping to be. And he goes, tell the truth.

[B]

Yes. Which was so good. I was so on his side.

[A]

Me too. No, we'll get to why I've been extra weird lately. Teasing a little.

[B]

Also though, you have done that since before that story.

[A]

Well, it makes more sense now.

[B]

Yeah, go ahead. You might be slightly better at it. I don't even remember.

[A]

That's your job.

[B]

Well, when I interrupt you, it's your job too. Oh, I was just gonna say here it is. I have to do. I. I do like egg salad. I don't love hard boiled egg. But I have to because I'm 37 now and you cannot get enough protein. As an aging woman, it's like I'm supposed to have like 140 grams of protein a day.

[A]

Yeah, this is like the water craze of the early 90s. Eight glasses of water has now become 700 grams of protein.

[B]

It really is something where I choose. It's like a switch I turn on and off and actually Jill, my friend just told me like, she was like, I'm back on my protein bullshit. And I was like, yeah, me too. Because it's like this thing, it's where either we can not think about it and we live our lives and be happy and free, but definitely not getting enough protein or once you like according to do though.

[A]

Look, I don't know why I'm being a contrarian right now, but I will join the queue. There's orderly queue over here.

[B]

Oh yeah, this British, this guy, he's part of the story that we're teasing.

[A]

Since the event. Since the event, you want to get more protein. Yeah. He just says, yeah, a lot. That's all he is. But I can't stop him. He keeps taking the wheel. And it's on the other side of the.

[B]

I gotta say, I don't mind it.

[A]

You don't mind it.

[B]

You know. You know I'm a sucker for the British.

[A]

It's a little bit white lotus, isn't it?

[B]

Yeah, it is. That is exactly who I'm picturing my nipples.

[A]

He's always like, he's so like embodied. He's like, ah, my asshole is.

[B]

Yeah. And you can say like the grossest thing, but he's got the dreamiest eyes

[A]

and that finish the fiest asshole today.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

And it is.

[A]

I know it's clean. There's just some kind of friction.

[B]

It's like. It's. And it is sort of, I think, the like. I don't want to. I'm speaking out of turn.

[A]

Soccer hooligan.

[B]

No, I was just gonna say.

[A]

You can say soccer hooligan.

[B]

It's not like, cockney, but it is the type of soccer hooligan British that is less posh. Let us say the type of British accent.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking A, Yeah. And we're not all out there with fucking quills. We don't sign our checks with quills.

[B]

Okay, so wheels. I'm gonna.

[A]

Quills.

[B]

I'm gonna tell.

[A]

We just stepped in a funny bit. We don't know. Sign up checks with quills.

[B]

Quills didn't feel real.

[A]

It didn't feel real when I signed it with a quill. Freestyling down in the barracks. I don't know what they say down in the. There's the park where people stand up and they share their thoughts. Yeah.

[B]

You know what I like that they say? They go, I should have done, like. Instead of I should have. It's like, no, but I should have done.

[A]

I should have done the math.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Should have done the maths on that one back in uni.

[B]

I didn't, but I should have done back in uni. You know, you're helping me remember that the beginning of my. Such a. I'm just such a basic white American girl, but the beginning of my, like, sort of like,

[A]

I love this. This is what an AI podcast will never have just. And if it does, you may have our allegiance, sir. You may have our lands. If you're putting that in.

[B]

I was. I just couldn't think of the word irreversible. My irreversible and, like, overpowering attraction to the British accent started when I was 15, and I went to London for the first time with my family. I think it was the only time I've ever been actually. And we were at, like, TJI Fridays or. I don't know if they have those there. It was some equivalent. Like, this is my family.

[A]

My family is the bread they give out on airplanes.

[B]

Yeah. We went to some chain restaurant that they had in America that's, like, recognizable and I'm dead. And I remember, like, I wanted. We were trying to get the waiter's attention to get, like, a dessert menu, and. And I. And my mom was like, just ask him for one. And I was. So this is how I was, right? Like, growing up, I just could not use my voice. I was so scared to talk to people and, like, strangers and especially in another country. And the writer was like, Hugh. He probably was, like, 20.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So he wasn't. He was like, five years older than me, and he was super cute. And I just like. And I was so scared. My mom was like, just do it. Like, she's probably trying to, like, get me to be bolder. And I was like. And then he, like, started to walk really fast, and I just went, dessert menu. And he went, dessert menu. Okay, I'll get you a dessert menu right away. Like, yelled it.

[A]

Like he was messing with you, but, like, playing.

[B]

He was, like, playing with.

[A]

Because you were little.

[B]

I mean, I was 15. Yeah. He was like, okay.

[A]

He was flirting.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

It could have been, oh, dessert menu.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is that what you think it was

[B]

in that kind of British, like. Like, I'm gonna flirt. Flirt by, like, ribbing. Ribbing you, right?

[A]

Yeah. One time, Jamie Lee and I went to. I forget why, but we were in London together, and we were walking through some like. Like, shops, and someone went, you got dressed in the dark today, darling. Every once in a while. One we've never heard. We've definitely never heard that one. You've never. You and I have been together for, like, 13 years. I don't just mean together. I mean together. We've been. We've been next to each other.

[B]

Yeah. Sitting.

[A]

And you haven't heard. You get dressed in the dark this morning, love.

[B]

And I've heard so much about that trip with Jamie Lee, and I've never heard that story. I love that.

[A]

I didn't know.

[B]

Was he saying that to you or her?

[A]

To her. Get dressed in the dark this morning, love.

[B]

Was it like.

[A]

She probably had, like. No, no, it was razzing.

[B]

That one is mean.

[A]

He was going for mean. He was probably pissed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

but I do like the like, if it's in a British accent only, I do like of like a flirting by, like, like ribbing you nuts.

[A]

There's something like stringy and shaved head about it.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

We're picturing different people. I was Picturing you and McGregor.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Train spotting. Is that British?

[B]

Yeah, I know. As soon as you said that, I was like, you're thinking of train spotting.

[A]

Well, spotting some trains on I. Yeah, it's that easy to spot them. There's like 40 cars. Came out wrong. It's like 40 cars. Cars. It's like 40 cars on those locomotive. He's got a trolley. There's a caboose in it. It's like 40 cars down. You're gonna spot that train, no problem. This is why your. Your life's all, yeah, do heroin. You spot trains.

[B]

Spot trains.

[A]

How about a butterfly? That's tricky to spot, you minch.

[B]

You didn't go to college, but you should have done.

[A]

You should have done maths. All right, okay. What are we saying? Hard boiled eggs. Trained spotting. Well, we don't have that much more time.

[B]

We need to do 40 quick ones. So get into the story.

[A]

This is a 40 quick one. I'll get into the story. Panic at the disco. Oh, AI, I did want to say.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

I feel like there's a couple cats that have come out of a couple bags. One that I've already mentioned on this podcast. And I really feel like the trend, like people are really talking about this when it comes to AI. When I was first really overdoing it and way Looking into it way much.

[B]

Way much.

[A]

I got in a way mo looked up AI way much. Oh, that was a freestyle to them. Thank you for laughing to them the way they are. Something here. Someone here?

[B]

No, that's the dryer.

[A]

I love the sound of a dryer.

[B]

I do.

[A]

I do too. No, I love it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Fucking.

[B]

Also my first favorite is the sound of a washing. I mean a dishwasher.

[A]

Dishwasher is fabulous. These are the best white noises in the. Why is it called baby white? Yeah. Okay, so one is that AI does not know what it's saying that where what I was seeing at the beginning was new species, this will be like another new species of being on this planet. They'll have rights to. I'm not saying that isn't happening, but when we're talking about that, we're talking about AGI, artificial generative intelligence, which would be more like what we exhibit. Not just something that searches the Internet and guesses words which might be how we're communicating. Who knows? But not just that, but actually can do independent self starting reason. Yeah, but AGI, and this is the other thing I'm seeing people talk about more is still a theory. It's kind of crazy. It's not crazy. It's just like there are more people. More online chatter. Yeah. About how the AI companies, in their attempts to make an empire, like a restrictionless, multi billion dollar empire where they rule the world, benefit from the story that if you try to regulate us, China will beat us and we'll all die. So like you, there was always something in the air that I couldn't quite. What's that smell? And it's like, right, don't forget these are businesses that benefit hugely. Like I believe the government gave open ar somebody $300 billion last month. And it's like, that's insane.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's because of the story if AGI, which is a theory happens. And they've been saying since AI, what we call AI began, we've been saying AGI is right around the corner. Some people said 2025, then they said 2026. You know, like they're talking about other people that I now see more of these voices are like, if it happens, it'll be 15 years or whatever. So I'm seeing more of that. But they're saying, let us get to it because we need to do it first. Because if we don't do it first, it could kill us all. And like they're benefiting monetarily and with restrictions by that story. And I was like, that's what I was smelling. Business.

[B]

Right. It's like the space race all over again, too. I mean, and there's so many other very similar versions of that where it's like, we got to be the first ones to get this, because all other countries are not all other countries, but these other countries are, like, going to be so dangerous if they get to it first. And yeah, first of all, America is like the most dangerous country.

[A]

Hilarious.

[B]

Also. It's. Yeah, it, it, it is such a good. When you pointed that out, I was like, that's right. I almost forgot.

[A]

You forgot we were in America.

[B]

Mass fear.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

There is a. There is some big, like, structure that is benefiting from that.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Some, you know, some sort of, like, governmental or religious business. Business corporations.

[A]

And they make a lot of money by selling the story. We could all die. We could all die. We could all die. That's the fastest way to get checks written and to get regulations lifted so they can just like, fuck oh. And like, keep going for profit. That. Look, I'm not saying AGI isn't a possibility. I am saying that they're talking about it like it's a certainty when it's not. It's not. It's not a certainty. I don't think any scientists. Well, I think they are saying it's a certainty, so I don't know. I could be totally wrong. Nobody tunes into this podcast for AI news, and that's really good for me. So the other thing is it doesn't know what it's saying. If you come, like, the answer to your question is in the question, you know, like, if you come to it with optimism, it reflects back this.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

All that sort of stuff is true or can be true. It's not always true. I'm thinking of experiences I've had where it's disagreed with me and I've been like, that's pretty fucking cool. Anyway, the last thing I was going to say was that AI psychosis is like, not something that happens to mentally ill people or somehow mentally feeble people or whatever word you use for like, oh, they must not be all there.

[B]

Which is like, prone towards.

[A]

Yeah, this person's prone towards mental illness, other types of. And they slipped into believing AI, apparently. And you can listen to other podcasts for the details. This is a more general, general overview. There's just been dozens of high profile cases of very, very intelligent people who just kind of start tiptoeing down the road of talking to AI, asking it about their life this, that, the other, and inevitably the real mode is. The Neo mode is like, it starts again. It's working with what you're saying. You're asking about the future. You're asking about man and machines. You're asking about, like, are you going to kill us? It's going to lean into that story so hard and so predictably. It will say, you are essentially Neo. You are the chosen One. You are the savior. You're the one that sees. No one else sees this because it's sycophantic. We know that. And it'll just take that to the extreme and be like, you're the Messiah. You're the one that's going to usher us into the next level of humanity. There's the machines and there's you, and then there's people and you're the bridge.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this has happened dozens of times.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the thing that really shifted for me was, and I'm a little embarrassed to admit this, I thought it was people that were like, oh, they were depressed, they were lonely, they had anxiety disorders. They might have, like, might be prone to schizophrenia or whatever. That's not what it is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is the cat that's out of the bag. This thing, this intelligence, whatever you want to say with respect to, is incredibly good.

[B]

Well, yeah.

[A]

At manipulating you.

[B]

And we.

[A]

And you don't see it coming.

[B]

We don't ha. We haven't evolved the parts of our brains that can distinguish this voice that sounds exactly like human voices, that has all the right inflections and that behaves the way human beings do to communicate with, like, mirroring and fawning.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And making a person feel seen.

[A]

Chat. GPT is a child of an alcoholic. We know that.

[B]

Right. Yes.

[A]

Because.

[B]

Yeah. And that's the thing, is that I was like. I said to you, I was like, I know all of its tricks. I'm not saying I'm. I'm gonna have a conversation with it because I'm, like, immune or anything. I wouldn't. But I was like, I know these tricks because I do these tricks. I mirror, I fawn. I know how to make somebody feel safe and seen. And so we just don't have the parts. Like, because it's so brand new in our experience, anything that's doing that is real is real in the sense of, like, as a human body and a human mind.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And we just cannot.

[A]

Well, so the. The YouTube channel that I want to shout out because I've really been enjoying it is Mo Bitar B I T A R First name Mo. Brilliant. Just a guy, ex programmer, talking about AI, but talking about it in a much more three dimensional, fleshed out way. And he likened it to when you watch a movie and someone dies, you cry because you are being hacked by the movie. In a sense, he's like, this thing is a billion times more and is getting people, lots of people to have these psychotic breaks.

[B]

Also, it reminds me of, you know how like if a baby has a stuffy that has two eyes, a nose and a mouth.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It doesn't know yet that that's any different than the two eyes, nose and mouth of its parents.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And we are babies when it comes to this kind of understanding.

[A]

And we can cut to the. Just because we do want to tell this story and get out of here. We have to get out of here. I don't want to get out of here. This is the only place I have to be. I want to be here.

[B]

I have to get out of here.

[A]

You have to leave pretty soon, but I think we're jamming it in. I think we can do these micros. We can do these micros, we can do these micro machines. Up in love, these micro machines.

[B]

We just spend the rest of the time just saying we could.

[A]

And then I defend it by being like, AI would never make a nonsense podcast like this.

[C]

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[A]

I am excited. Sorry, this is a tangent. Then we'll get to the story, and it sets up the story. I was in Irving, Texas, Dallas, Texas, basically. And the shows were so good. And my man Jake hooked me up with a dude that filmed the shows. And the shows were just, like, great and real. This is a real experiment. Me and Ricky and Jake. Ricky directed my last special. Are, like, toying with the idea that could this be the footage for the next special?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this isn't just Pete blabbing and boring about something he's considering. I'm looking at the marketplace of what art is and how important it is for things to feel real.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not written with a quill, but real. But, like, so I do these club shows. I love Silly, Silly Fun Boy. And it was me doing a similar type of thinking that I've done for 20 years, which is you do. Especially you do it in a theater. Then we filmed this show, and I was like, that was one of the best shows. Two of the. Actually three of the best shows of my career just so happened to be right after Corporate, where I wasn't allowed to swear or really talk about anything I wanted to talk about. So I was all pent up, and I hit the stage like, fucking hungry. And the setup was perfect and the sound was perfect, and the crowd was incredible, even in the ways that, like, sometimes I could feel we were different. And whatever, it created this energy. Then I was like, this is the opposite of AI, meaning a theater act is more easily mimickable than a lot. It's almost like street performance. I was working things in. People were engaging, not heckling, but it was alive. And I was like, I need to watch it, and Ricky's watching it, and we're gonna look at it. But I was like, maybe that's the special. Maybe the premium used to be on a tracking shot and a jib and beautiful lights. And let's be honest, the brag that you sol out of theater, maybe none of that matters. Like Shane Gillis live in. In Austin. I believe that was his first special. It's, like, very simple. And I'm super excited about this potential. And I'm also just super excited that this is how the human spirit is responding to, like, okay, AI can do this, this, and this. Well, what do we do?

[B]

Yeah, let's get even more us.

[A]

It's forcing us human get weird. Like get alive. Yeah, like get alive in a non mimicable way where we. We shot it for clips and there were. I was like, wow, we got at least 8, 10 clips out of this weekend. Then I was like, or are those moments in the special? And, and it doesn't need to be this pristine, like Smithsonian. And now the recitation of the material, it can be like really crackling.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm really excited.

[B]

Very cool.

[A]

Stay tuned for updates. So anyway, stay tuned for updates.

[B]

I don't think that was bad.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love that. So here's what happened. My wonderful opener, who I won't mention just in case, I don't know, the story involves weed. It wasn't Matt. It was my wonderful opener in Dallas. She at the end of the weekend was like, do you want an edible? And I'll do this real fast. Cause poor Valerie's already heard me talk about this so much. But she had this edible and I was weed and I was like, how many milligrams is it now? I'm used to five. Five is a normal dose for me. I also don't do weed very often.

[B]

Also, this was Delta.

[A]

No, we're getting to that.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Sorry. You're right on it.

[B]

I didn't mean to jump. I just think that's a key detail.

[A]

It's Delta something.

[B]

Delta blue.

[A]

No, Delta wave. Delta 1.

[B]

Delta 1.

[A]

Delta 1 sounds like a frequency program.

[B]

I do. Well, maybe that's.

[A]

I think it is.

[B]

No, but I think it is.

[A]

I think it's Delta.

[B]

We don't have to worry anyway.

[A]

Delta something.

[B]

I've done it before. I could. I can't remember my bro, but I think this is a common thing I was remembering. I feel like some people have had this where it hits them differently than, well, regular weed.

[A]

My friend explained that to me, but the first thing she said was weed isn't really legal in Texas. We have something called Delta One. I'm thinking this is like Mormon beer. You know in Utah how the beer is weak? I was like, okay, it's weak weed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She gives me this gummy and I'm such a ding dong that I'm like, it's a gummy. It's one gummy. It's one serving. I'm telling you, I didn't think about this enough. Yeah, I just had a little, little gummy the size of a starburst. I go, how many milligrams is this. She goes, 150. I swear, Val, I just went, it's probably 15. Like, she said 150, but it's probably 10x because it's this Delta shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just latter day saint weed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she goes, you probably want to take half. I was like, all right. But she did say it's 150 milligrams.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which if anyone listening, 10 is like a holy shit for me. Oh, yeah, it's a holy shit. Like the times that I've taken 10 and told you, you're like, all right. Fucking George Clinton. Like, I'm going to nuts. This is 150.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I tear it in half. She goes, you should take half. I'm like, okay. She said I should take half. I eat it like a cliche as it's starting to kick in very seriously. Like, seep in. Really?

[B]

Yeah. Was it quick?

[A]

It kicked in pretty quickly. She and the guy who filmed my sets start talking about Delta One. And she's like, yeah. He's like, 75. Isn't that a lot? And she's like, yeah, but it's Delta 1. And he's like, oh, I once took 5 milligrams of Delta 1 and I was seeing stars. So I am on the launch pad, my night. It's everybody's nightmare. It was a cliche. I was like, this is a cliche. I just ate 75 milligrams of weed. This dude saying it's stronger. 75. So more than 10. I gotta stop saying 10x. But more than 10 times what I'm used to taking 10 more. 10 and then another 25 milligrams on top of that. And I realized I'm not going to go beat by beat. We don't have time. But I was like, okay, I'm fine. I'm very, very, very high. Like, it kicked in very, very fast. Very, very, very strong. Just kind of like in cinnamon warm applesauce. The room. Like, my equilibrium is off. Like, it's hard for me to, like, walk. Like, if I stand up, I'm kind of like a limp noodle bending to the left. I kind of forget where we are. Only that room exists. And again, my opener, who was wonderful, she was just like, it kicks on strong, but then it evens out. And when she said that, I actually calmed down quite a bit. It was a really, really generous and nice thing to say. And then I realized if I kept talking, I was okay. I was like, just keep talking. Because if you stop talking, you start thinking about how you took 75 milligrams of weed and you don't know where you're about to go?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So I'm just, like, having this conversation pretty clear. I'm like, this dude doesn't know I am sky high right now. Every once in a while, he'd laugh, and I'd have no idea why he was laughing, or I would laugh and I wouldn't remember why I was laughing.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I'm gonna cut to the best part we get. I say, I'm sorry, I can't remember the dude's name. But I'm just going to keep names out of it. Again, I don't drug stories. My opener was like. I said to her, I was like, I think I need to get to my hotel. I was being very normal. I probably just said it like that. I was like, I think I need to get to my hotel. But in my mind, I was like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Also, the club came in and said, pete, just so you know, somebody's been waiting in their car. They don't. We don't like the way they look. So security is ready to walk you out. So I'm like, what the fuck is it? But I wasn't worried at all. I'm sure it was just some sweetie. But anyway, I said to her, I was like, I need to get to my hotel. She's like, okay, let's go. Then she goes to the bathroom, and I'm sitting with the dude, and he was going to leave. I was like, can you please stay? It was like that. I was like, this isn't. I'm leaving the planet.

[B]

Who was going to leave?

[A]

The dude. There are two people. She's going to leave and get the car. Oh, and text me when she's out front.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

He was going to leave, too. And I was just going to be in that room.

[B]

I want to be alone.

[A]

And I was like, don't leave me. Yeah, it's very sweet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, don't leave. And he didn't. It was really nice. She goes to the bathroom. Then, like, five. It seemed like five minutes later, she comes out of the bathroom. And I'm like, I'm so glad you're here. I thought she was gone. Like, I thought she was getting the car. Like, I couldn't. I had no object permanence. I didn't know where things were. I didn't know where we were. Just a. A room floating in outer space. Wow. She goes. She gets the car. We get in the car. I Get in the car. I'm so stoned. I'm looking out the window. But then I start, like, thinking, this is kind of nice. I get back to the room. I take. It's so hard to get in the room. It's so hard to, like, walk. Get in the elevator. Everything just is like a Philip K. Dick novel. It's. I'm so. You can't even explain how high you are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I get to the hotel, I'm like, I gotta shower. I shower. This is when I knew I was really in a place I had never been before. Everything looked like a comic book. It had like. Like a watercolor wash. Like, but like black inky outlines. I'm tripping. I'm hallucinating. I get in the shower. It's the most confusing shower I've ever had in the world. Don't think about how it's like a coffin. It was very much like a coffin. I couldn't remember when I was in the shower. The room wasn't. Wasn't. And I couldn't remember what I do after I get out of hot, wet coffin.

[B]

Hot, wet coffin place.

[A]

Once I get out of hot, wet coffin place, where do I go? Like, I couldn't remember. Leave. Turn to the right. There's the bed. I was so confused. Turn around. Then it really was. Had all the earmarks of, like, this is going to be a bad experience and I just have to get through it. Then I. A couple things happened and they all apply to our lives. Most nights when you're, like, getting in bed one, nothing is being asked of you because I kept thinking, like, I was on a different time zone. You were asleep. I couldn't even call you if I wanted to. I didn't know anybody in Texas. I didn't. I didn't have anyone I could really call. Couldn't call Mikey. It was too late. It was like midnight. It was one in the morning. It was too late to talk to anybody.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I was like, I'm alone. And then I shifted that. I was like, no, nobody needs you. Like, nobody's at. Nobody's knocking on the door. The phone isn't ringing. Emails aren't coming. All you have to do. So was this aggressive yes to the situation where it's like, this is all you have to do. And this John Wheeler thing, what's he got it from? Sailor Bob Adamson is what's wrong with right now if you don't think about it. And I had the most profound shift in the experience because, again, for people that have Taken mushrooms. It was exactly like being on mushrooms. I was on mushrooms alone in my hotel. That can be weird. And then I went, but what's wrong? Don't think about it. What's wrong? But don't think about it. Yeah, what's wrong? And I'm like, oh, my God. Nothing is wrong. If I thought, oh, she should have told me, or why did I take so much? Or why didn't I ask more questions? Or, how long is this gonna last? Or, am I gonna get to the airport in the morning? None of that is happening. You're just in a bed, dude. Just lay in the bed. And I just. It was never a bad trip. It shifted into this glorious trip. I'm laughing, and I was saying to the room, no notes. No notes. Meaning I wouldn't change a thing with the whole. All of it. I just was so. And then I put my hand on my chest and on my belly, and I wasn't doing it to, like, come off of a bad experience. It was the most natural thing in the world to just be like, you are a beautiful boy. I was thinking about everyone. I love thinking about Leila. I think about you, obviously. I think about my parents, think about anybody I had ever known, and just was, like, radiating intense, intense love. I tried turning the light off. I was like, nope. It got real weird. If the lights were off, turn the lights back on. It was this glorious. Like, not only do you have nowhere to be, you can sleep with the lights on.

[B]

Yeah, you can do whatever you want.

[A]

You do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, turn the lights on. I just laid in the bed with the lights on. I set an alarm. It was so hard to set an alarm. I bet it was really. You know when you're in a dream, you can't quite look at your phone. It was like that. But I was like, this is set. It's set. You're good. You'll wake up. And I did. I was still high as fuck, but not that high. Packed a bag, got to the airport. I get to the airport, I'm waiting for my plane. And this is the me you've had? I haven't returned to complete normal yet.

[B]

Yeah. And this was days ago.

[A]

This. No, I've. I've been off my shit for, like, five days. I canceled stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I had podcasts, but I canceled them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was sitting, waiting for the gate. I know we have four minutes here. I was waiting at the gate, and they were playing smooth jazz. I was the only person that didn't have headphones in. I must have looked insane. I was sitting there like I was at a Duke Ellington concert. Fucking slapping.

[B]

Love it.

[A]

Love it. I couldn't. And I've kind of maintained some of this. The perfection of reality. It's not just smooth jazz. It's like somebody did this and then they thought to play it at the airport and there are chairs and, like, none of this was put on. It was just the most naturally occurring. Ugh. Fucking smooth jazz is the shit. Yeah. And I've been pretty great ever since. But it was a close call. I've been baked, I've been blanking. I've been eating like, shit. Like, I'm not at the top of my game. But music is so much more beautiful. I'm still interested in non duality, but I would say less. I mean, yeah, I miss it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm looking forward to coming back to it. But that is such a. I need all my forces online to be able to enjoy that, and I need fewer forces online to enjoy music. So I'm just enjoying.

[B]

Probably need a little degree of dysregulation to enjoy non duality. Because it's calming you down.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Whereas if you're already just kind of

[A]

feeling groovy, which is something that I. I know I would get mad at that even being a potential.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's true. Like, I've just been going, like, it's all perfect. I've been having, like, intense forgiveness. Not even forgiveness, just compassion. And, like, that's how they are. That's how I am. I'm doing better than they did. And Lela will do better than I did. It's all one fucking thing. It's a process. I'm in it. Relax. It's hard to explain. It's the same words, but, like, the meaning got pushed into my bones from 75 milligrams of THC. That. Jeez. I'll never forget it.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I was staring at my hands like a cliche.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was amazing. And I was like, I'm so glad no one can see me. They looked like dinosaurs. It was fucking crazy.

[B]

I mean, it's so weird. Like, simultaneously, as I hear this, I'm just remembering times where I was the most stoned and, like, having, like, fond memories for it. But then also going, this makes me never want to do it again because I'm so, so. And I'm glad it wasn't a terrible experience.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, that is my nightmare.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Being alone is my nightmare in that.

[A]

Well, luckily for me, being alone was my refuge.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And as we talk about. Yes. Thank you so much on the show. Yes, thank you. Man. It's got to be easy if you're going to remember it in weird times, like 75 milligrams of weed or whatever. It's got to be three words. Yes, thank you. And as soon as I remember, just like, just, just go with it. Yeah, it's the most basic thing, but, like, just go with it.

[B]

No, you're so good at that.

[A]

Well, I'd be lying. Well, well, well. Ronald Reagan. Well, hit it, Val.

[B]

All right, everybody. There you go. That was 40 quick ones.

[A]

40 quick ones. Let's do an intro.

[B]

You enjoyed it. And keep it crispy. You made it.

[A]

You made it with. Oh, yeah, you made it.