Episode Overview
Podcast: Your Anxiety Toolkit - Practical Skills for Anxiety, Panic & Depression
Episode: 437 An OCD Success Story (with Lydia Davies)
Date: June 9, 2025
Host: Kimberley Quinlan, LMFT
Guest: Lydia Davies
In this heartfelt and revealing episode, host Kimberley Quinlan welcomes Lydia Davies, an artist and advocate from Australia's Sunshine Coast, to share her multi-faceted OCD recovery story. Lydia speaks candidly about living with different types of OCD, her challenging path to a formal diagnosis, the tools and therapy that transformed her journey, and the emotional turbulence—and triumph—of publicly sharing her story. This episode offers hope, practical insights, and a courageous message about vulnerability, community, and self-compassion in healing.
Main Discussion Points & Insights
1. Lydia’s Early Experience and Path to an OCD Diagnosis
- Initial Symptoms & Seeking Help (02:05)
- Lydia experienced OCD symptoms from a young age, including intrusive sexual thoughts, but did not recognize them as OCD until age 24.
- She sought therapy after work stress became overwhelming, initially presenting with generalized anxiety and only later revealing disturbing intrusive thoughts.
- Lydia describes a pivotal therapy moment:
"At the end of the first session, I felt like, okay, there's something else I haven't talked about that I should probably mention because this is a bit weird." (03:15)
- Therapist’s Response & Lightbulb Moment (05:42)
- Her therapist introduced her to Dr. Jeffrey Schwartz’s "four steps" model and gently suggested that her experiences aligned with OCD.
- Lydia recounts her revelation:
"My mind was blown. I was like, wow, this is a huge light bulb moment. Suddenly almost everything I've struggled with throughout my life makes sense." (07:00)
2. Emotion Around Diagnosis & Early Recovery
- Relief and Motivation (07:48)
- Lydia expresses initial relief, fascination, and new motivation after her diagnosis:
"It kind of just made me excited and made me want to overcome this." (08:09)
- Lydia expresses initial relief, fascination, and new motivation after her diagnosis:
- Treatment Journey and Specialization (08:44)
- Worked for eight years with a supportive therapist, Lisa, but OCD wasn’t the specialty.
- Transitioned to Dr. Emily O’Leary at a specialist OCD clinic for targeted OCD treatment after symptoms intensified, especially around health anxieties and compulsive behaviors.
3. Exposure and Response Prevention (ERP) and Facing Fears
- Readiness & Learning Curve (11:14)
- Lydia credits podcasts (including this one) and The OCD Stories for preparing her to fully commit to ERP:
"At that point I was ready to actually face it head on. It did take me a long time to get there though." (11:53)
- Lydia credits podcasts (including this one) and The OCD Stories for preparing her to fully commit to ERP:
- ERP in Action: Whiplash Exposure (12:24-15:05)
- Describes an ERP assignment to repeatedly verbalize fear of getting whiplash while driving and intentionally googling whiplash consequences.
- Lydia found the exposure less triggering than anticipated, noting:
"Surprisingly though, I googled it and I was like, oh, whiplash isn't as bad as I thought it was." (13:21)
- Somatic OCD and Breathwork Exposure (15:05-21:02)
- Lydia struggled with obsessive concerns about "correct" breathing and pain, leading to high anxiety around breathwork practices. She intentionally participated in a challenging breathwork event as exposure, experiencing significant distress but also relief and empowerment afterwards:
"I was so triggered...but then my mood just shifted. Like, I was just like, I feel great now. And...I had the most fun, fun surf." (18:32)
- Later, she faced even deeper fears by fully committing to breathwork, pushing through intense anxiety and bodily sensations:
"I felt like my OCD was like, get me out of here. This isn't correct breathing technique. I wanted to run away..." (19:49) "...But I kept going and I didn't have a panic attack...I'm such a badass." (20:34)
- Lydia struggled with obsessive concerns about "correct" breathing and pain, leading to high anxiety around breathwork practices. She intentionally participated in a challenging breathwork event as exposure, experiencing significant distress but also relief and empowerment afterwards:
4. Facing Religious OCD and Value-Driven Choices
- Navigating Religious Fears (23:40-26:37)
- Lydia describes how her faith community’s messaging led to scrupulosity and fears about spiritual contamination (e.g., avoiding yoga, crystals, or non-Christian spiritual activities).
- She learns to confront these fears directly, recognizing overlap between religious teaching and OCD-driven avoidance.
- Making Value-Based Decisions (22:54)
- Reflects on how community and the potential for emotional release motivated facing her fears at breathwork events:
"I realized my fear of correct breathing technique was like taking over my life...if I do this, I'm eventually going to overcome this fear and I will be free." (22:54)
- Notes the essential role of supportive, understanding communities in her recovery process.
- Reflects on how community and the potential for emotional release motivated facing her fears at breathwork events:
5. Key Therapy Lessons: Not "White-Knuckling" Exposures
- Mindful, Values-Based Decision Making (26:37-29:13)
- Lydia’s therapist emphasized not forcing exposures if she wasn’t ready, and encouraged mindful, voluntary participation:
"If you do get the COVID vaccine, I want you to do it mindfully. If you don't want to get it, ...don't get it. Only do it when it's...your choice." (28:19)
- Lydia’s therapist emphasized not forcing exposures if she wasn’t ready, and encouraged mindful, voluntary participation:
- Learning Not To "White Knuckle" (29:13-32:16)
- Lydia shares how ice baths and childbirth experiences taught her to physiologically surrender, rather than grit her teeth and just endure anxiety:
"When you're in there...just surrender. Relax those muscles as best you can...the body will adjust...just pretend it's an ice bath." (30:33)
- Lydia shares how ice baths and childbirth experiences taught her to physiologically surrender, rather than grit her teeth and just endure anxiety:
6. Vulnerability and the Aftermath of Sharing
- The Cost and Purpose of Honest Disclosure (32:44-37:42)
- Lydia describes the hurtful fallout from sharing her story of sexual intrusive thoughts on another podcast, including misunderstanding and shame from friends and faith community members:
"Unfortunately, they didn't have the best response...they were kind of telling me that maybe I was unwise in sharing that, that maybe people would listen and assume that I actually am a pedophile." (33:11)
- Lydia affirms her value-driven commitment to openness, even when it brings risk and discomfort:
"One of my biggest values is helping others who have OCD get better...if someone listened [and] found out...that could potentially prevent a suicide...that's why I want to share." (36:45)
- Lydia describes the hurtful fallout from sharing her story of sexual intrusive thoughts on another podcast, including misunderstanding and shame from friends and faith community members:
- Kimberley’s Affirmation (37:42)
- Kimberley acknowledges Lydia’s courage:
"I'm just so proud of you...you're really so incredible and brave and...walking the walk and not just talking the talk." (37:44)
- Kimberley acknowledges Lydia’s courage:
Notable Quotes
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On the Power of a Diagnosis
"My mind was blown. I was like, wow, this is a huge light bulb moment...there was hope that, well, I'm not actually a creep."
— Lydia (07:00) -
On Choosing Mindful Exposure
"If you do get the COVID vaccine, I want you to do it mindfully. And if you don't want to get it...don't get it. Only do it when it's purely your choice."
— Lydia, quoting Dr. Emily O’Leary (28:19) -
On Facing Shame and Staying True
"I really, really think that this needs to be talked about. The reason people don't know what OCD truly is, [is] because a lot of people don't talk about this because they don't want to be canceled."
— Lydia (36:14) -
On Community and Recovery
"The people from the breath workplace were super lovely, really supportive, and that made me want to come back...that's half of it, honestly."
— Lydia (23:40)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Introduction to Lydia’s Story & Diagnosis: 00:01–07:48
- Responding to Diagnosis & Initial Therapy Journey: 07:48–11:14
- Starting ERP & Key Exposures: 11:14–15:05
- Facing Somatic OCD with Breathwork Exposures: 15:05–21:02
- Values-Driven Recovery and Community Support: 22:54–26:25
- Practicing Mindful, Non-White-Knuckle Exposure: 26:37–32:16
- Navigating Disclosure and Vulnerability in Sharing OCD: 32:44–37:42
- Highlighting Lydia’s Advocacy & Contact Info: 38:20–39:20
Guest Information & Resources
- Find Lydia on Instagram: @lydiadavies_creative
- Monthly OCD Support Group Moderator:
Pay What You Can Peer Support – paywhatyoucanpeersupport.com
(OCD & Intrusive Thoughts group, Fridays 7:00pm U.S. Eastern)
Tone & Takeaways
- The conversation is open, compassionate, and pragmatic, blending scientific understanding with emotional honesty and lived experience.
- Lydia’s story underscores the value of specialist treatment, ERP, community, and vulnerability in overcoming OCD.
- The episode offers hope and practical wisdom: recovery is possible, and sharing your truth—despite stigma—can save lives.
A beautiful life is possible.
