Did We Hire Psychos?! w/ Dr. Hope Torres | Your Mom's House Ep. 819

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Did We Hire Psychos?! w/ Dr. Hope Torres" | Your Mom's House Ep. 819

Release Date: July 16, 2025
Hosts: Christina Pazsitzky and Tom Segura
Guest: Dr. Hope Torres, Licensed Professional Mental Health Counselor

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Introduction and Personal Updates (00:00 - 06:57)

The episode kicks off with Christina and Tom engaging in their trademark humorous banter. They discuss their mutual interest in World War II documentaries, contrasting them with the more complex and murky narratives of the Vietnam War.

• Tom Segura [00:35]: "Feels like it's such a bummer. You've only seen 25 documentaries. There's nothing new."

Christina shares personal news about her recent medical procedure to remove staples from her face, highlighting the challenges of recovery without makeup.

• Christina Pazsitzky [05:18]: "So I got the staples out of my head... It was really freaking me out."

Tom counters with his own update about embarking on a five-day water fast, providing a humorous take on the discipline required.

• Tom Segura [06:04]: "I'm on a water fast. It's only water. You're allowed to have black coffee, water with salt, some sugar-free electrolytes."

Main Discussion: Psych Evaluations and Dr. Hope Torres' Analysis (46:24 - 116:23)

The core of the episode revolves around a psychological evaluation conducted on the YMH Studios staff. Christina and Tom, along with others, participated in the "Personal Personality Inventory for DSM-5" (PID-5-SF), aiming to uncover any personality disorders or significant traits among the team.

Overview of the Evaluation Process

Dr. Hope Torres explains the nature of the PID-5-SF test, emphasizing that it assesses personality traits and potential disorders without providing a definitive diagnosis.

• Dr. Hope Torres [47:07]: "It's called the Personal Personality Inventory for DSM-5... It gives a list of personality characteristics such as depression, anxiety, and the list goes on."

Tom adds a relatable perspective on the prevalence of mental health issues within the comedy industry.

• Tom Segura [49:13]: "There's a lot of anxiety, depression, disassociation in the comedy world."

Results and Individual Assessments

Dr. Torres presents the results, highlighting that most participants scored within normal ranges, with only a few exhibiting clinically significant traits.

1. Zolo

   • Traits: Below average on most scales.
   • Dr. Hope Torres [54:24]: "He did really good. And that's his personality disorder one."

2. Tyler

   • Traits: Elevated in negative affectivity and close to clinically significant in narcissism.
   • Dr. Hope Torres [55:12]: "He's clinically significant in attention seeking and rigid perfectionism."

3. Gamba

   • Traits: High in negative affectivity, disinhibition, and potential borderline traits.
   • Tom Segura [71:07]: "He is a sweetheart though."

4. Caitlyn

   • Traits: Elevated in schizotypal traits and avoidant behaviors.
   • Dr. Hope Torres [63:17]: "Caitlyn glows clinically significant into negative affectivity and psychoticism."

5. Heather

   • Traits: Elevated in narcissism and OCD.
   • Dr. Hope Torres [65:11]: "She's elevated on schizotypal and avoidant, clinically significant with anxiety."

6. Ryan

   • Traits: Elevated in antagonism, deceitfulness, and grandiosity.
   • Dr. Hope Torres [66:06]: "He's elevated in antisocial with psychopathy and narcissism."

7. Tanner

   • Traits: Clinically significant in multiple categories, notably antisocial with psychopathy.
   • Tom Segura [89:35]: "So, Tanner was clinically significant in almost every category."

Hosts' Reactions and Comedic Interjections

Throughout the analysis, Christina and Tom infuse humor into the serious discussion, often poking fun at themselves and their colleagues based on the results.

• Tom Segura [54:02]: "So he scored higher on everything. He throws up some flags."

• Christina Pazsitzky [57:00]: "Is it Christina? Is it Christina? Is it Christina?"

As Dr. Torres delves deeper into the implications of the results, she touches upon themes like childhood trauma, dissociation, and the complexities of diagnosing personality disorders without clinical sessions.

• Dr. Hope Torres [80:56]: "If you have high disinhibition, distractibility, impulsivity, he's elevated in schizotypal, antisocial with psychopathy, and borderline."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts (116:24 - End)

The episode wraps up with light-hearted exchanges, as Christina and Tom continue to jest about their own scores, reinforcing the show's comedic nature despite the serious topic.

• Tom Segura [114:21]: "He's a thief, so there's that, too."

Dr. Torres offers a balanced view, suggesting that while some staff members show elevated traits, it doesn't necessarily hinder their professional capabilities.

• Dr. Hope Torres [95:01]: "He has some trauma that is off the charts... there's something there that hasn't been dealt with."

Christina emphasizes the importance of empathy and self-awareness, concluding the segment with a comedic yet insightful take on personal growth and mental health.

• Christina Pazsitzky [105:49]: "I'm not a borderline narcissistic. I'm none of those things. Nope. And I don't lie."

Notable Quotes

• Tom Segura [06:04]: "I'm doing water fast. It's only water. You're allowed to have black coffee, water with salt."

• Christina Pazsitzky [05:18]: "So I got the staples out of my head... It was really freaking me out."

• Dr. Hope Torres [47:07]: "It gives us symptoms that put you in certain categories for risk, but not a diagnosis."

• Tom Segura [89:35]: "So, Tanner was clinically significant in almost every category."

• Christina Pazsitzky [105:49]: "I'm not a borderline narcissistic. I'm none of those things. Nope."

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Final Notes

In this episode, Christina and Tom blend their signature humor with an in-depth exploration of mental health within their team. By bringing in Dr. Hope Torres, they navigate the complexities of personality assessments, shedding light on the importance of understanding oneself and fostering supportive environments in high-pressure industries like comedy.

For more episodes and updates, visit Your Mom's House at YMHStudios.com.

Transcript

[Tom Segura]

What's everybody. Summer is here, and we've got some awesome new stuff in the YMH store. Survive this godforsaken heat long enough to check out the entire summer collection. Available now at store.ymhstudios.com welcome. Welcome to your mom's house. Welcome.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And welcome. Sorry, I just got excited because I didn't know if you're still into your Hitler summer.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, I mean, I've just kind of waiting. I'm waiting every day for another new Hitler story to come out. Feels like it's such a bummer. You're like, well, I've only seen 25 documentaries. There's nothing new.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I know. They constantly find a way to retell the greatest.

[Tom Segura]

It's one of my favorite things about. About the summer. The summer he's getting a new World War II doc.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But sometimes you were into it. Turned into a Vietnamese summer for you.

[Tom Segura]

I don't like it as much.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Why is that, Tommy?

[Tom Segura]

It's. The story is just. You know. Why? Honestly, it's a dirtier, murkier story. That's really what it comes down to. World War II is such a clean, traditional, good versus evil story. Like, the fact that it's real makes it like, oh, my God. Because you usually hear these stories in fantasy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. You're like, what that guy did.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And then he took over. What?

[Tom Segura]

It's really. It's. It's a good versus evil story. And then Vietnam is just so murky and dirty.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Convoluted. You mean literally the country is dirty?

[Tom Segura]

No, I mean like the. The jungle, the. Everything that goes into what led to the war. And. And the. You know, there's manipulation, and there's all these lies, and it's just. It's. It's very sad. It's very disturbing.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. And Americans were killed.

[Tom Segura]

Quite a few.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't like. It's okay if the Krauts die.

[Tom Segura]

Right.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But not if good Americans die also. Yeah. The fashion wasn't as great in Vietnam.

[Tom Segura]

Big, big point of contention for me, too.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Didn't like that.

[Tom Segura]

What's up with the fashion?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

The food? You know, I like Vietnamese food. I know you're not into it.

[Tom Segura]

I like Vietnamese food.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You do?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Sure.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Also, interesting fact. Your father, who was in Vietnam, told me. I'll never forget. He goes, you know the worst part, Christina? Trench foot. A trench, you got to keep your socks dry.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Otherwise your.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Your feet, they just.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

The feet are the first thing to go.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And I learned that, you know, you.

[Tom Segura]

Take a trenching tool that was another one. Trenching tool. You gotta take a. And you dig yourself a hole in you. Yeah. And then you. I'm like, cool. That's cool. I'll tell you this. He's not a fan of Vietnamese food.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, I know. It's not even a joke. And we tried so hard to get him to even try Korean barbecue.

[Tom Segura]

That was crazy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Which was. It's so good.

[Tom Segura]

We were living in Koreatown, and I was like, hey, you want to get Korean barbecue? This guy looked at me like. I was like, hey, want to fuck your mom later today? He goes, what the fuck? No. I go, tell me. What kind of question is that?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I know.

[Tom Segura]

And I go, what? Yeah. He goes, I don't like that shit. And I go, it's meat. It. It's Korean barbecue. It's like ribs. And he's like, oh, no, I'm good.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But he also didn't like Italian food.

[Tom Segura]

That was crazy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Which is like, your dad didn't like a lot of stuff that most of humanity enjoys.

[Tom Segura]

You know who's a good actor? Joe Pesky.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Joe Pesky?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, he's good. Have you ever heard his name said that way? Pesky bothered me so much. Like, I was thinking about it last night.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That was like, 30 years ago.

[Tom Segura]

It's like. But it's one of those things. Like, you're. You're. You go through your life, somebody passes, you have your grief, and then there's things that still stick with you. And last night, I was like, who the says Joe Pesky?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That was insanity.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. It was so crazy to me.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It isn't. He. He would mispronounce a lot of things. Things.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wasn't there other actors and other pedophile. He would say, that guy's a pedophile. And, like, he just had a different. I mean, my.

[Tom Segura]

I know. I remember foreign. You know, one time he said that to me. He goes, the p. I go, is that with feet? And he goes, no, it's the kids. I go, oh, you mean. Yeah, all right. Right? Yeah, yeah. He was like, yeah, yeah. I go, why are you saying that like that? You want to get something at the buffet? The.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I love. I still say buffet from him.

[Tom Segura]

The buffet.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I love the buffet.

[Tom Segura]

We were in Washington, which is something that other people say, too, though Washington's very common. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So Ellis, our son, we adopted a cat from a cat cafe here in Austin, the Perfecto Cat Lounge. Shout out to them because the. The woman who owns it's lovely. And they rescue cats and rehabilitate them, and you can you know?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Especially if they committed a crime. They, like, give them a second chance. Yeah, I remember.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Anyway, he didn't know. He called it the cat buffet.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And I was. I didn't correct him because I'm like, technically it is.

[Tom Segura]

It's kind of a cat buffet in here.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Cat buffet.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Which was adorable.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Cat buffet.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Anyway, we have so much to get into. First of all, just an update, why I'm looking still.

[Tom Segura]

I. Oh, yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So I got the staples out of my head.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Which is great because that was really freaking me out. And turns out they do use a tool. They put it. It's like a staple remover from, like, Home Depot.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But it opens the staple under the skin and then they pull it out. It was. It. It hurt. No.

[Tom Segura]

Your look is evolving. You were the Hamburglar last week, and today you kind of look like a crypto millionaire. A little bit like. Like somebody who's, you know, doing things that are kind of shady but making money doing them. Cool. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, thanks, Josh Zolo, for procuring this special Bauhaus hat.

[Tom Segura]

Very cool.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't usually wear caps because I don't like how they make my ears look.

[Tom Segura]

70 ball cap. You got. Got a ball cap on your head.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Guys, my parents never said, you know, what ball cap? I don't know. Sun visor. You told me it was wrong. And then chewing gum and cap is.

[Tom Segura]

Like what someone from the 1930s would say.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What is this, a hat? It's a cap. It's a baseball cap.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Any.

[Tom Segura]

I mean, you know, technically, yeah, it's a cap. Technically.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He doesn't side with me on this one. Well, guys. Sorry. Okay. Growing up, my family didn't wear this stuff. I don't know what this shit's called.

[Tom Segura]

Sun visor.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

A sun visor. Chewing gum.

[Tom Segura]

Chewing gum.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Chewing gum and then baseball cup.

[Tom Segura]

Okie dokie.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Anyway, sorry, update. Staples are out.

[Tom Segura]

Staples are out.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Stitches are out.

[Tom Segura]

Face is coming together.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Face is coming together. It's still bruised. And I'm not allowed to wear makeup yet. So when I can wear makeup, I will debut these eyes. And I tell you something, you're going to like the way I look. I guarantee it.

[Tom Segura]

I guarantee it. Yeah. So you went through. I got jealous that you got, you know, so much work done and you're looking younger, so I'm on a water fast. I.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This is incredibly torturous that you're doing. And tell them for how long?

[Tom Segura]

Five days.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't like.

[Tom Segura]

I have to point this out to some of the. I would Say the challenged folks out there. It doesn't mean I'm going five days without water, which is what some people, they were like, that's crazy. You can die if you don't have water for five days. I'm like, no, no, it's only water. It's only water. You're allowed to have black coffee water with salt. You can have some sugar free electrolytes. So I'm doing those.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

The water with salt is great because it's going to make you. That'll make you. I'm pretty sure. But you know what, you're like one of these yogis. That's what they do in India when you, you know, you meditate. Are you meditating? You should really use this time to do psychedelic drugs and meditate. I'm serious. You're gonna have like epiphanies, bro. Yeah, ride the snake. Ride the way.

[Tom Segura]

See where I'm at right now? I am at. It was 36, 37, I met 40 hours.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

How do you feel?

[Tom Segura]

I'm hungry. Like, I'm not like freaking out. I just. This thing keeps happening. I told you yesterday where like you're. You kind of lose your thought about it and then you feel hungry and you see something like, oh, there's a snack, like a protein bar. Oh, I should eat that. I'm hungry. And then I'm like, oh, I'm doing it. Like, I forget that I'm fasting. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And have you had any, like, epiphanies or like realizations in your hunger?

[Tom Segura]

No. Everyone who's told me too, was there, like, they. Most people tell me that two days, two to three are like the worst and that everybody has. Well, I should say everybody. But a lot of people have told me that getting into day four is where you really feel good. I don't know.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And do you have, do you lose your train of thought? Because when I'm hungry, I can't think.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, I've been losing focus. I'm not like super agitated, but you know you want to eat.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Man, you're grumpy. I'm really proud of you because normally in our like everyday life, like you wake up and you have to eat right away. Otherwise you're an angry bear and you've been really harnessing your bear. I don't know how you're doing it.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, it's good that I have so much going on. I think being focused, trying to be busy on things is good. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So exciting. Well, I'm excited for you. You're probably going to lose like £80. Because. Well, how many? That's like a lot. You're going to lose so much weight.

[Tom Segura]

I don't think it'll be that dramatic. I lost three pounds from yesterday to today.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Just in water and stuff, I guess.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Did you. Have you been like, crazy?

[Tom Segura]

No, not yet. But also I was, I was. I thought that was. I was like, oh, I guess I'm not having that. And like I mentioned it today and people were like, oh, no, it's coming.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I was like, oh, is it just because your body is, is just relaxed, like it's not digesting and I don't.

[Tom Segura]

Know the science behind it.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You look up, why during a. A fast, you shit everything out of you.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Like, is it just like your body's. It's all.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Your body's all, hey, dude, we're bit. We don't have stuff to do right now.

[Tom Segura]

That's an interesting way of wording it. Why don't you type it just like that? How come your body's like, oh, there's all this coming out? Diarrhea during fasting, while not experienced by everyone, can be linked to several factors including the body's response to the lack of food, changes in bowel movements and po. Potential dehydration. Sudden introduction of food during refeeding also trigger. Well, that makes sense. The. When you, when you eat again. But when you're fasting, I don't understand why it happens. Fasting can slow down the gastro colic reflex, which is the body's natural response to food entering the stomach by triggering a bowel movement. When you suddenly break a fast. Well, that's breaking the fast, bro.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

We need to go and get you some pancakes. Waffles.

[Tom Segura]

That's the way to do it. Everyone said cinnamon rolls, when you break the fast, they go. Go hard. Eat a lot of sugar, a lot of carbs. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. A lot of fat.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, our. My first post colonoscopy meal was a cinnamon roll. Remember that? Dude, it was so good. Yeah, I love that.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, me too, man. So good. I like that too.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I was a. Hold on, dude, it was a cinnamon roll. Like waffle.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Super Texas fatty treat.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And then, you know, eggs and hollandaise sauce. And can I tell you the best thing I heard when I was in my oncologist's office?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This is where people get chemotherapy. So I'm in the waiting room with people who are waiting to get chemotherapy to treat their active cancer, and I hear this family talking and the person who's clearly sick is like, let's go get some deep fried pork chops after this. There's a place where you can get.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Deep fried pork chops.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And I'm like, really? You. You have cancer.

[Tom Segura]

I know, but you can tell you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Something, you're gonna do that.

[Tom Segura]

I actually regret that when my dad was alive and sick that I would get irritated that he wasn't being healthy. There's food choices. Because looking back on it, I was like, he's already. Yeah, he's dying. Like, just let him. You know, I mean. Because I would be like, really? And he was like, what? I go. I mean, it's just a good thing to have right now. And he was like, don't.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But you know what, though? You were good with him, because I remember the last trip you guys took.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

We ordered him a bacon cheeseburger. And he was.

[Tom Segura]

No, we. I know. I ordered him a lot of stuff.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

But even, like, by, like, the third day when he was, like, leaving, I was like, hey, man, can I just talk to you about, like, what you're eating, though? And he was like, what's that? And I was like, I mean.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

Don't you think you should be maybe being a little more cautious about what you eat?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I know. I know what you're saying.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. I think if somebody is sick like that, you should just let them.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, like, if you're not terminal.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And you want to live. Right. No, just still eat the poor deep fried pork chops.

[Tom Segura]

Let people eat what they want to eat. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's my realization from it. That's what this fast has taught me. No, Let people eat what they want to eat.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You know? And I think Lena Dunham shares your philosophy.

[Tom Segura]

Here we go. Let's open the show.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Let's open the show.

[Tom Segura]

You're the most ignorant that I've ever met. Yeah, I didn't do anything to you. You.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You.

[Tom Segura]

I bought you three drinks, and as soon as you got the Hennessy in you, you went ballistic. Or taking it out on every man in the world. You. You.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's cool.

[Tom Segura]

Clip.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This is so rad.

[Tom Segura]

Welcome. Welcome to your mom's house.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Me feel good inside. Mom cigar. I got to get my phone.

[Tom Segura]

Welcome to your mom's. Go.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Still playing. Dang.

[Tom Segura]

Jesus Christ.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This is a long thing. Anyway, this is the difference between mom life and dad life. I always got to keep my phone with me just in case something's up with the kids.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, right, right.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And also, we left our kids with your sister today, and she's not used to the full force of our sons.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, in the pool. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

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[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, he's the coolest. You.

[Tom Segura]

That's why you're alone. Cuz you're a.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He's right.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. And Sydney, I apologize. I really wanted to talk to you. I wanted to ask you after dinner, but. You got it. Oh, lawyer.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

The way he looked at that camera at the end right here makes me think he set it up. Yeah, he was like, I'm gonna put my camera here so I can get myself saying you to Sydney.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And I think he's right. I think you're right.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And I like the. This. I can't do this enough.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, this isn't. This is.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I feel like this is so good.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, That's a really good one.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Fuck you, man. It really. Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

God, I love places when they have multiple TVs.

[Tom Segura]

Love it.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's so cool because it's.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Dude. Loud. I like a lot of loud. Like, different noises, different voices going on. It's fun.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. I want to watch all the games at once.

[Tom Segura]

Everything. Yeah, yeah. Have some nature shit going on. I want to see some fucking cricket from India. I want it all on tv. It's great.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I wish it were that interesting.

[Tom Segura]

You're the most ignorant that I've ever met. That's wild. Yeah. Really? I didn't do anything to you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You. Oh, yeah. He's so proud of himself. You're right.

[Tom Segura]

I bought you three drinks and as soon as you. That's what this is about.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What he say? I.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You.

[Tom Segura]

I bought you three drinks, and as soon as you got the Hennessy in you. So his. He's kind of like, just resentful of the fact, honestly, that he bought her three drinks.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

100% and she's not in him. It's the same thing where the guy's like, you're hot, and you're like, get away. And he's like, you. Yeah, it's just the same old story.

[Tom Segura]

Literally. You're a. You're the most ignorant I've ever met in my life.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And can I tell you, I don't.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, hold on. Here's. Here's. Here's Bertrand. I think he's on set on his show. We have to say hi. Oh, hello. Oh, somebody's in. Somebody got makeup.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Let me see.

[Tom Segura]

I will.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Hi, Bert.

[Tom Segura]

Hey. Hey. How's it going, buddy? How you guys doing? Good. Day one good. First day of. First day of shooting. Great, man. I'm happy for you. You look good. Here, hold on. This is my outfit. Okay. Oh, sorry. Wrong way.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wrong way.

[Tom Segura]

Hi, Leanne. Hello, guys. That is real cool.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He looks awesome.

[Tom Segura]

Wow, you look really cool, man.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I like your shorts, Bert.

[Tom Segura]

Are you adorable? Are they. Are you playing a sex symbol? Because I'm feeling it. What are you guys doing? We're doing a podcast, man. We're just recording right now. Right now? Yeah. Go.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Your mom's house.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Oh, nice, nice, nice. Well, look, I'll send you my f.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Where are you filming?

[Tom Segura]

He's in Atlanta. What's up? How you doing?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Hey, Bert.

[Tom Segura]

I'm losing you. Yeah, I'm losing you, Bert.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You got to see my eye work. I had a. I had a brow lift and an eye work done. Did you tell him?

[Tom Segura]

Are you serious?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It looks so good. Wait until you see my eyes. I look 25 years younger.

[Tom Segura]

Listen, when I come to Austin, I need to get all this dead black skin off my face.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, yeah, I'll help you.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. I mean, that's what's dead. I was kissing Leanne with makeup on, and she goes, oh, my God, you look so young. And I went, yeah, you did, because you're. You do look young right now. I know. I look young as. You know what you should start doing? Wearing makeup every day.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's so cool.

[Tom Segura]

Just wear makeup more. All right, Have a great shoot, man. I'll talk to you later.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Congrats.

[Tom Segura]

All right. Love you, too. All right.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's so sweet that he calls you.

[Tom Segura]

Well, I call. I sent him a message to have a great shoot.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's his first day shooting.

[Tom Segura]

Today's the first day shooting his series. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, my God, that's so cool. He's so happy. You guys are both, just, like, crushing it right now. I mean, I heard you announce it on Two Bears. You're shooting your movie and in New Mexico.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, Jew.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Mexico, pretty soon.

[Tom Segura]

I know. I think maybe by the time this episode comes out, they'll announce some of the cast. It's.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, my God. I'm pretty cool. So pumped for you, babe. This is so funny. It's going to be fantastic. And I'm, you know, looking forward to being in Albuquerque with the kids.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay. All right. I want to die anyway. I was going to say that I respected him until I saw what he's drinking, which is like hard lemonade.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Which is like. Isn't that the drink of pedophiles? Mike's hard lemonade.

[Tom Segura]

It's pretty lame.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Isn't that what the guy always brings when he wants to have sex with a minor in that Those shows.

[Tom Segura]

A lot of those. A lot of wine coolers.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, Wine cooler.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He's drinking like a 12 year old girl. What man drinks wine coolers?

[Tom Segura]

It's really bad.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's not acceptable.

[Tom Segura]

It's also a. I'll tell you who drinks. A guy who thinks it's okay to walk up to a bar and be like you. Like, that's. It's not okay. I love this. I hate to jump around.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

But I'm so excited to show you something that I saw. So one of our favorites. Like one of the absolute, you know, best that we ever featured on this show.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

Is this guy hanging out with losers.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

Right?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Wasting your time with people.

[Tom Segura]

That mean correct.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, correct.

[Tom Segura]

Show me your friends and I'll show you your future. That's one of your top. Top. It is three pieces. Show me your friends and I show your future. You want to know why you're all up?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Just look at the bums you hang around with. It's my dad.

[Tom Segura]

There you go. That's pretty good.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

This is why you're poor.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I could do it all day.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, it's pretty great, right? You're a cool crime. Not me. Yeah. You know this. He had so many great ones. Right. Realize the rest of the world laughed at us.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes.

[Tom Segura]

You realize the Russians think we're all fats.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. He's right.

[Tom Segura]

Because we are. And then so, you know, damn. Pena. I'm just doing that so people know, you know, we started playing these guys clips years ago. And then we had him on the podcast, bro.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And then we had lunch with.

[Tom Segura]

Lunch with him.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Irl.

[Tom Segura]

Haven't seen him in years. Haven't talked to him in years. And I'm going into my folder, just looking at what's in here for the show, and I see Dan Penny. I'm like, I haven't seen that dude. What? I'll do whatever it takes. Yeah. Well, that means something different to me. It means something different to guys like Hitler. Why do I have Hitler's picture in the behind my desk? Arguably the best salesman that ever lived. How do you get 60, 70, 80 million people to genocide 10 million people. Either those 10 million people had to do something terrible, which wasn't the case, or you got to be a slick. I mean, and he was okay. And that's why I have his picture behind my desk. I. I mean, I don't know that I've ever heard somebody be like, as well. I took my kids and I, we. We went to the Bahamas. So that's what that is there. That's when I got married. It's a golf trip. One of my friends, we went to. We played Pebble Beach.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I love Pebble Beach.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, that's a great Hitler. Sale. Sale. Crazy salesman. Probably the best salesman.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What, were you related to him or why is he on your.

[Tom Segura]

This is Morocco. We went to Morocco. It's wild, babe.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And it's not just on his family. It's behind his desk.

[Tom Segura]

Behind the desk.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Like, that's where you sit.

[Tom Segura]

That's where you put, like, your primo.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

Photographs.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, oh, this guy. Oh, yeah. I met Bill Belichick, so I. I got his photo. There's, you know, he won a bunch of Super Bowls. Pretty cool. I mean, something different to guys like Hitler. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I wish we could photoshop a picture with, like, Hitler's arm around him and with, like, a note, like.

[Tom Segura]

Like a thumbs up. Yeah. Your friend, arguably the best salesman that ever.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I mean, look, is he logically correct?

[Tom Segura]

I get where I know what he's trying to say. It's just an interesting choice. You know what I mean? Like, it's an interesting choice, you know.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And normally I don't. Well, you know, put it this way. Some of the best people we love creatively were bad people in real life, but Hitler was a bad person in his job, too. So I don't think we can separate the man from the. What's up with that talent, you know what I'm saying?

[Tom Segura]

That Hitler photo. Oh, well, I have it for, like, sales reasons. It's the salesmanship is what I'm into, because, you know, I sell things. Oh, you're thinking. No, no, no. Not that. Not that guy. It's just, you know, guy was slick, man.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He's just a cool guy.

[Tom Segura]

Just a real cool guy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Did I ever tell you this is beautiful? Than.

[Tom Segura]

By the way. So this is a deep tissue calf massage. There is no. There's a 0.0% chance that that is making him better. That is not helping him scream at all.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, screaming. I know. Can I tell you what, one time.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Speaking of a Hitler portrait, like, you ever date somebody and then you go back to their home and their decor, like, there's just something where you go, I can't do this. So there was this guy who. I thought this was going to be potential.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I was young.

[Tom Segura]

Really? Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh, yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I was young and handsome, talented, bright future. Like, really, really cool. And I was like, all right, dude, I think this is gonna happen. We go out for Launche, and he's like, you want to go back and see my. My apartment, my house?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He actually had a house.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And I was like, yeah, cool. So I go back to the house and I go, I have to use the restroom. I use the restroom, and on the toilet are about 50 or 60 figurines, like star wars figurines. And then I was like, all right, I think I'm out. And then I go, I just peek into his room. I'm like, I wonder what the bedroom's.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Like, if there's Star wars on the.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Toilet and Life Size cutout Chewbacca at the foot of the bed.

[Tom Segura]

And I was like, at the foot of the bed?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

At the foot of the bed.

[Tom Segura]

So, like, I'm surprised you like chicks. That's not. That's not, like, chick bait.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Exactly.

[Tom Segura]

How old were you?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

20. Like, literally just getting out of college, maybe last year of college. Very.

[Tom Segura]

In la. So he's in la.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No.

[Tom Segura]

Oh.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't want to say. I don't want to give away too.

[Tom Segura]

Many details, but you think everyone's going to be like, I know that Chewbacca guy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I mean, I don't know. I'm afraid to, like, they're like, as.

[Tom Segura]

Soon as she said Boston Fred. I don't know.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay, well, look, you know, I don't know. I've known the same people for 30, 40 years. I've been friends with the same people. They know who. So this isn't our friend group, you understand?

[Tom Segura]

Oh, yeah, I got.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But that was.

[Tom Segura]

And so, wait, how did you handle the dip out? How'd you dip?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I mean. No, I was polite. I. Then. So then the other thing is, he's like, you want to watch something? And then he shows me, like, a cartoony thing.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And I was like, all right.

[Tom Segura]

I thought he's gonna be like, you want to watch something? And you're like, let me guess, Star Wars. How'd you know?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Exactly.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. I love that movie. You're like, no. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

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[Tom Segura]

Yeah, yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I wasn't living there, so I was visiting. Yeah, but that was that. That can deter one. Could you imagine walking into a Dan Pena's house?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You're like, this guy's a millionaire. He lives in a castle. And then he's like, and this, this is my desk.

[Tom Segura]

And you're like, hey, you know who that looks like? Oh, doesn't look like. Is there a reason it is the guy that you have it?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Hell.

[Tom Segura]

Well, speaking of this world, you're talking about hooking up and whatnot. You see this clip? It's pretty exciting I'm like sounding very.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Cocky here, but I think it's because.

[Tom Segura]

I have found this freedom in my 40s where I'm like, oh my God.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I just want to say this in perspective.

[Tom Segura]

I've probably had three one night stands.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

In my entire life. Okay. But I did just recently.

[Tom Segura]

26 year old. And it was really amazing. Yes, yes. And I've never done that. And I was like, oh, this is great. Okay, okay, okay, I get what this is now. It's like, like this is okay. And the other girl's like, yes.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh my God. Awesome. This type of girl, it's the worst. I can't like, I. It's my kryptonite, dude.

[Tom Segura]

Go for. That's so cool. That's so the funny thing that I always find about clips like this. Like chicks do this, right? And they're like, go for it. And then they say like, this is the, this is the, the mental gymnastics of this bit. Like they'll say, why isn't it okay for her? And you're like, oh yeah, she can, she can. Great.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Just shut up. Don't tell people.

[Tom Segura]

And then when the guy does it, then they flip on it and they go, you're a pig.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You're a piece of. Yeah, right.

[Tom Segura]

And like you're not supposed to do that. But for the woman now you have to like celebrate.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, here's a diff, here's the diffuser. I don't know how this, how that girl would react to a fart at 9 year old saying I had a one not stand with a 26 year old.

[Tom Segura]

Fantastic.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I think what's gross, like literally is when the older guy marries the 20 year old.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So I don't think Charlize is marrying and destroying and being gross there.

[Tom Segura]

Of course not.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So like, I think that's the diff. I think just banging like, I don't, I think Leonardo DiCaprio and how he conducts his personal life is 100% on the level. Fantastic.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, great.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You catch a new release, you bang her until she's what, 28 and 5?

[Tom Segura]

Disgusting.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Geriatric.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So I know you're saying there's a double. There is a double standard because.

[Tom Segura]

But it's like a double reverse double standard. You know what I mean? It's not even a. Yeah, so like, you know why?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Because fucking an older guy to a younger girl is gross. Because I can picture what that body looks like. Yeah, she's smoke. She's still smoking.

[Tom Segura]

Charlize.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, she looks great.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Her body's her fate. Everything's together. Okay, so her at 20 something.

[Tom Segura]

I see what this is now.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Like, yeah, I love when you die.

[Tom Segura]

Like, the thing was like, everybody's saying like, whatever. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, I fudge this guy. He's like 26. I was like, yes. I like, it was fantastic. And then the other girl, I love her. I love that for you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I love that for you.

[Tom Segura]

I love that you figured that out. It's like, do you know what? I'm sex positive. Like this thing is like all this sex shaming. It's like so like, whatever. It's like who you want to. And like, if you enjoy it, like, good for you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm body positive. Everything positive.

[Tom Segura]

Do you give that same speech to a guy?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, because here's why. I'll tell you why. Because historically, men have been able to do that without being shamed.

[Tom Segura]

No, I. I know.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You know what I'm saying? So it's new for women. It's new. Is it new?

[Tom Segura]

Is it new?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, no, no, hold on, hold on. I'm just saying it's new for us to be able to just say it out loud. Hey, I'm 40 something. I banged it. 20 year old, like Madonna is very open.

[Tom Segura]

Her boyfriend doing that for 30 years.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But she's also a pariah for it. People call her, oh, she's a whore and this and that.

[Tom Segura]

I don't think she's a whore, but she's been. Yeah, labeled that. Sure, sure.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But one thing that does make me, that does repulse me is how girls talk like this when it's just like, yeah, yeah.

[Tom Segura]

I was like, here's the thing. I want them to keep this same energy when they see this video. I'm Ryan. And study shows that if you're an ass guy, you're more likely to be more faithful to a woman than if you're a titty guy. Don't believe me? Look it up.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, I've heard that you need an ass man. He's right.

[Tom Segura]

See, I just want them to have Ryan on and be like, yes. Oh, my God, yes, Ryan, Ryan.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

We've heard you're on Usman, but I wish I could. I can't get with a Ryan. I'm not an ass girl. I would love to be.

[Tom Segura]

I'm Ryan. And to be honest, I just need some head before bed.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. And you know what? You know what she's gonna say, dude, yes, absolutely.

[Tom Segura]

Absolutely, Ryan.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes, you do, girl, I'm so happy.

[Tom Segura]

You figured that out.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That you like head before Be good for you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Because so many men are. Don't know what they like, and you're aware of your sexuality.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, my God.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I think this is why my audience is male.

[Tom Segura]

You think so?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, you know, I've always wondered. I'm like, why don't the girls. You know, I'm not one of these female comics that attracts exclusively a female audience. I think a lot of it is because I'm not as.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Like this.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I honestly, I'm not. I wish I were a little more girly. I really do. I think I'm up. I'm in the head.

[Tom Segura]

Well, you know what? We're gonna get a full review of that pretty soon.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I know. It's not that I don't like women. I love them. Before we break, though, I'm just traumatized.

[Tom Segura]

We have to bring this up.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, yeah.

[Tom Segura]

You find you saw Sinners Holy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Did I see Sinners, bro? Doing any. I'm dying.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, just listen to the movie. They do it 27 times, bro, for no reason. Let's be driving in the car. I gotta tell you that you ruined that movie.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You ruined it. No, I started watching it and. Tommy, didn't I say it when we started watching it, I watched it. Destroyed this for.

[Tom Segura]

I watched it again, Dick. I saw it in theaters, and then it was on, you know, available to stream or whatever. So I. I watched it with Christina, and I was like, you're gonna like this movie.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You're gonna like the way I look.

[Tom Segura]

And, like, opening, I don't know, two minutes in. And I'm. I'm hearing Annie's right now, hearing his. And then, like, two minutes in, it's like. You see this shot, and then you know the feels, and then you hear. I'm like, God damn it.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And they're picking cotton.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So I'm like. Oh, that's what I'm saying.

[Tom Segura]

As soon as I saw them in the movie, bro. This again, bro. Oh, my. Well, it's not this. I mean, the story is an original story. No, no, no. Yes, it is. No, it's the same. It's not.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's an original.

[Tom Segura]

It is an original story. People are bad.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you.

[Tom Segura]

People win.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Let me tell you what the. Here's my. I love the story.

[Tom Segura]

I still love the movie.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I think it's fantastic. The scene that troubles you, Annie, I actually thought was beautifully done.

[Tom Segura]

She really liked that.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I really like that.

[Tom Segura]

The music scene, the one that you didn't like.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Fantastic.

[Tom Segura]

That was just one of the scenes I didn't I mean, you could point out, like, well, yeah, he didn't like, 75.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And I'll tell you who I loved is the door guy.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Cornbread.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I thought he was so funny when.

[Tom Segura]

He goes, wait, you think all the actors.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Cornbread's amazing, huh?

[Tom Segura]

You think all the act. You don't think the actors.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I love the actors.

[Tom Segura]

I didn't say that. I know. That's what I'm saying.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And he goes, I like when they're like, where have you been? He's like, it turns out I had to take A, too. I was laughing so hard. He's got great timing. And he's. His face.

[Tom Segura]

Michael B. Jordan's great.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Fantastic.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He's the whole.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Just crushed. And it was so beautiful. The music was incredible. The story's great. Now, here's my only. It was a tad long. And I do think they wrote two movies in one. Do you know what I mean? I think the movie went here. And then they're like, but we also want to do something different. And I think that's where I kind of. I had to watch it in two sittings, but I watched it and I loved it.

[Tom Segura]

I enjoyed it.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I loved it.

[Tom Segura]

I like that. And he doesn't like it, though.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I do, too. Wait, so why did you hate it? Again, like, refresh.

[Tom Segura]

Why? I mean, first, I'm just. I'm tired of the. I'm tired of seeing on the cotton field.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't like it.

[Tom Segura]

Well, man, it's hotter than. Oh, my God, bro, can we cut the. And then. And then the most. I'd say maybe the most annoying part is. You're right. It's like two fucking movies in one. So, like, halfway in the movie, like, oh, yeah, this is a fucking vampire movie. We should probably do that, right? Okay, let's do that. And then they do that. Yeah, they do that. And the fudgeing, the graphics, the like, bro, we're in 2025. It should. It should have looked crazy, you know, I should have been scared.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I was scared. I thought it was good.

[Tom Segura]

It was not. It looked like fudgeing Thriller. It looks like music video thriller with the red lame eyes. It was horrible.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I loved it. I love the Brothers Smoke and Stack.

[Tom Segura]

I only feel like I'm not allowed to argue with you about this because you're black, and that's the only reason.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's a slavery theme.

[Tom Segura]

No, go ahead. It's not slavery, though.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, but it's in the time of. And. And it's a time when black people don't have power and.

[Tom Segura]

Right. It's like. But it's like the 19. When is it 30s or something, right? Yeah, it was like right after slavery.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But it still makes me sad. Bad.

[Tom Segura]

I don't want.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't like to.

[Tom Segura]

But somehow they still.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But you know what I did like, too? Asian people with southern accents.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, that was cool.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That was fun. You never see that.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, I like that. I liked it. I really did like it. I thought it was.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Loved it.

[Tom Segura]

Super entertaining. I also. I also thought that the Asian girl being like, come on. Like that. That was stupid.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That.

[Tom Segura]

That didn't make any sense.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What do you mean, come on?

[Tom Segura]

The. You know, I don't want to.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes, it does. When she's like, I. That part actually was very pivotal for me, and I like that because that brother had to make a decision right there. And she was right.

[Tom Segura]

That brother.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Brother again.

[Tom Segura]

What brother?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What do you. The moment. I think. I think you're a friend. In the moment where she says to the brother, that's.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, oh, okay. The twin brothers. I thought you meant like the brother. The brother that walked. That's what I thought. Christina. Be like. Like, then this brother came in, you know, the brother with the hat.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And then this female. This other female.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, yeah, that's super black, too.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Say female when a female.

[Tom Segura]

And I was in my vehicle.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

My vehicle. Tommy, look at the tv.

[Tom Segura]

Look at the tv.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

They say, look at the.

[Tom Segura]

Where you stay at?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, no, no. I. I meant literally the relations. He had to make a choice. And that was a really cool moment where she snaps him into making a choice. I thought that was interesting.

[Tom Segura]

Wait.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Snaps him in the middle, you understand? Like, he's. He's got to make a choice right there.

[Tom Segura]

No, but. But she's the one who was like. They only could, you know, come in because she at the end was like.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes. Because she was like, let's get this shit.

[Tom Segura]

You got to invite him in.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Let's go, bro. She's a catalyst. I liked it. Listen, any. I agree. I agree with you. I don't like.

[Tom Segura]

Can I tell you this, though?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't like the slavery theme. I get sad. I wish it weren't the theme.

[Tom Segura]

I'm just tired of it, man. This is the. But this. I got to tell you something, though. That is great. That is great about. This is the entire point of art, whether it's a movie, a song, a paint. Like it. It is supposed to do this. No, I mean, like, that polarizing. Polarizing is good, man. It really is like having, like opposing views on it. This is the fun of movies. And.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And thank you. This is a lovely segue into my painting that is still for sale. Around and find out.

[Tom Segura]

Yep.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm now going to. Because it hasn't sold for 30 grand. I am now increasing the price to 40 grand.

[Tom Segura]

Nice.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay. Around and find out. 40,000 US American dollars. There it is. Still for sale.

[Tom Segura]

Yep. Going up to 40, though. All right.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Also, I would like to point out you may buy my lipsticks christinap.com I have four beautiful shades. Beautiful shades.

[Tom Segura]

You like that?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Buy them on my website. I'm wearing the perfect red right now.

[Tom Segura]

You're gonna like something different to guys like Hitler.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So this is why you're poor.

[Tom Segura]

This is why you're.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This is the original for sale, by the way, but by my own little pause, I. I did this. Okay. And I'm working on a wonderful piece of Tom right now.

[Tom Segura]

Can't wait.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's been. I'm learning how to do it and I can't wait to reveal my next creation.

[Tom Segura]

Can't wait. You realize the Russians think we're all.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's true.

[Tom Segura]

Let's. Let's take a quick break and when we come back, here's what we're doing. We had discussed this on a previous episode and so we're doing it. We had the entire staff, including ourselves, take psych evaluations, do full written tests, and we are having an expert in the psychology field come in and review how we all did give her full assessment. Are any of us on the anti social personality disorder, you know, chart? Are we looking at personality disorders in general in this place? Are people perhaps narcissistic or any number of things. So she's going to come in and give us the review. And all I was told is that she got everybody's and she has a few things to say.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's what I. Josh, what did you say? You told me when I came in.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That she's very, very surprised by the results, very fascinated by everything that's come through.

[Tom Segura]

She has full reports on everyone. Yeah. Wait. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Take my meds.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Still aroused?

[Tom Segura]

You have no idea. And we are back and Joining us is Dr. Hope Torres, a licensed professional mental health counselor. And we brought her in for reasons that we previously mentioned. Everybody on staff has done written tests for an evaluation. And Dr. Torres, you're here to bring us the results?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes.

[Tom Segura]

So first of all, I think everybody participated, which was very nice. 1616 people participated. So my question for you, having done this many times and looking at this is there's a wide spectrum of results, I'm assuming.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. People are low end. There's not a lot of concern. And you got some that it's called clinically significant. They've got certain indicators that would tell them they probably need to go to.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Counsel, counseling, probably medicated, maybe medicines, maybe.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Not that, but that.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That gets determined over time.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So it's concerning to the point where they need to be talking to somebody. To untangle whatever wires are crossed at the moment. Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And to sort through whatever they've gone through.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Are some wires uncrossable on our staff?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That's hard to tell unless you actually sit in sessions with them.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, that makes sense. So. So just so the audience gets a better grasp of what we did, could you explain the test that people took?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, it's pretty much. It's called Personal personality inventory for DSM 5. So it's called PID5SF. So what it does is it gives a list of personality characteristics such as depression, anxiety, and the list goes on. And then it also gives your personality disorders. But it's not a diagnosis.

[Tom Segura]

It's not a diagnosis.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So it gives us symptoms that you have that put you in certain categories for risk, but something for us to assess if we're going to. What we're going to dig into in therapy.

[Tom Segura]

Right.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

To sort out, excuse my language, bullshit.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Of what you've gone through versus if you actually have personality disorder.

[Tom Segura]

And just to. I just want to inform the audience you make that a little bigger for me because I'm old. Just to give people an idea of like some of the questions, like just 100 questions. Right. So just leave it there, people. You know, some of the questions are like, I feel like I act totally on impulse. And then the person taking the test would either say that that's a very false statement, a somewhat false statement, a sometimes true statement, or a very true statement. And so over the course of these hundred questions, you're answering questions like that with a. With an answer of one of those four answers? Essentially, yes. And the combination of all these gives you an assessment.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes. And it'll cat. Like I said, it categorizes, but it measures everything on different scales. You know, I type it into a program, it calculates it.

[Tom Segura]

Got it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So it shows different types of scales that you're on. What we pay attention to, if you have high anxiety, if you have attachment, if you disengage people too much. So it shows well, example, I can sometimes see where people might actually have adhd.

[Tom Segura]

Right.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

On it for certain things. You can tell sometimes where people might possibly have forms of trauma just because certain traits are elevated.

[Tom Segura]

I'll tell you this, this is kind of interesting thing that, you know, not that it's completely different from the rest of society, but I think you do. We do find in our world, in the comedy world, a lot of anxiety, depression, disassociation. Like there's a lot of mental health issues in. In the comedy world.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And in showbiz in general.

[Tom Segura]

In general. Yeah. But if you hang out, like in the hallway of the Comedy Store, it's like a mental.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I would enjoy standing there. No, but I can get that just because one thing I've learned is, you know, laughter hides it. You know, I've come from. From a life that's got a lot of trauma in it. So I understand laughter. I used it a lot just to get. Get through.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Now let me ask you this question to define terms for the audience and for myself. What is a personality disorder?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

There. It's an alteration in the individual. The. It's going to be specific traits that let me find the best wording for. Impacts their functioning more than just anxiety. It's drives them to. Sorry, I do have adhd, so my mind will have its moments.

[Tom Segura]

It's all good.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, but it drives an individual to be different. It. They're going to be eccentric at different times. It's going to be things that it's very hard for them to manage. It's things medication cannot manage.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Got you.

[Tom Segura]

And they're going to engage in the world differently.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

They're going to see the world. It's going to be an altered perspective.

[Tom Segura]

And to give a further example, for instance, to the. To the audience, you know, an example of a personality disorder be like history. Histrionic.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes, histrionic. Borderline personality disorder, antisocial.

[Tom Segura]

And these are all different. Like, they're. They. They vary to degrees. Right. And. And there's things that jump out about somebody that makes you go, oh, they're. At least. Before you can spend a lot of time. There may be on this.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes.

[Tom Segura]

In this. Falling under this category.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. You're going to see like borderline personality disorder. They're. The way they see things is very skewed. You know, they fear abandonment.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Things are black and white, good and bad, angels and demons. There's no gray area. They can be loving to you one moment and the next moment they absolutely hate you. You know, you're going to have narcissistic personality disorder. It's very hard to get that because people don't admit they have it.

[Tom Segura]

Right.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, right. Because a narcissist won't go. Exactly. I'm a narcissist.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No. So that you have to almost discover that through sessions. If they go to therapy. So it's one of the lower reported ones.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

They're not going to go.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Because they're not going to go. Exactly.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And borderlines too, don't they not. Or rather I've heard that they're so exhausting to treat that most therapists don't want to engage like they can only.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes. I've had a few borderlines. They're very hard to stay with. Some of the thing that's very difficult about borderline is it's workable, it's manageable to live life when you just. When it develops in adulthood. But when it develops in their teenage years, the outcome's not as good for them because it's part of their development. It's in the development of their brain, it's in the development of their behaviors. And one of the things with borderline is the higher suicide rate and self harm. Yeah. So the one thing is, is bipolar can also be mixed up or misdiagnosed or borderline and bipolar can be misdiagnosed for each other.

[Tom Segura]

Ah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So that's why this assessment gives you the indicators, so you have to sort out what it really is.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's interesting. But bipolar can be medicated.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And symptoms.

[Tom Segura]

Can you tell me to begin? Let's start with who's doing okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Can you guess who is the first person?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna go. Tyler.

[Tom Segura]

No, no.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Still waters run deep.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, no, he ain't the top.

[Tom Segura]

Zolo.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Zolo.

[Tom Segura]

Zolo's good boy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So you have things that gauge average, they gauge elevated and they gauge clinically significant. None of his register. They register below average or right. Above average.

[Tom Segura]

Wow.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Your parents did good.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

If you were to go to the personality disorder, the only two above average is antisocial with psychopathy and narcissism.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, I know, but that's just.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That's it. It's just those are so the front of the page.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, you're describing the test still. So our buddy Zolo doesn't have psychopathy, narcissism.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No. Oh, he's got. This is the average scale.

[Tom Segura]

So he's below average on everything.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

This is the personality traits right now.

[Tom Segura]

So he's doing real well.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Somebody needs to marry him. Husband.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And then this is like what the next sheet looks like for the results.

[Tom Segura]

Got it. Okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So he's on this scale.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Good job.

[Tom Segura]

So he did great.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He did really good. And that's his personality disorder one.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wow.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So he did really good. Second would be Tyler.

[Tom Segura]

Tyler.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Hey, that's good.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And then Tyler scored higher on his negative affectivity. That's going to be more anxiety driven. Sure, I could see that. And for his personality disorder, he was above average, close to elevated with narcissism.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wow.

[Tom Segura]

But people are hearing that and. And hearing, oh, this person may be a narcissist. And it's not really that.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's just straight showing me that, hey, you've got some things that, you know, put you up in this thing of. Ah. I think about myself, you know, think about him.

[Tom Segura]

He always wears shorts because he's always trying to show off his legs.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He's clinically significant.

[Tom Segura]

Always trying to show his legs off.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He's clinically significant in attention seeking. So I'd be seeing why.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Clinically significant.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Clinically significant in rigid perfectionism.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I love that. That's why.

[Tom Segura]

Well, he is a photographer. He's a fantastic photographer.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Good friend for him.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And clinically significant in separation insecurity. Might have attachment issues.

[Tom Segura]

Okay. He loves his hair too. It's really.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He might be attached to it. Yeah, my father was. He traveled with a curl brush with this.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, that's Tyler all day.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It was horrible.

[Tom Segura]

He has curlers.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He's high anxiety, though. That makes sense. I think a lot of us do on this stuff.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. Now that was 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Number 6.

[Tom Segura]

Uhhuh.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Who do you guys think was the craziest?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Gamba, I thought.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, no.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You thought. Okay. Any crazy last item you guys said?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I think it's any. No, no.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He's in the top six of being the lowest.

[Tom Segura]

Wow.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Shut the.

[Tom Segura]

But we have to point something out here. That really smart, conniving, narcissistic psychopaths will manipulate these tests so that they appear to be.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I wondered about that. I wondered about that because Yalls last episode, he said he was going to Gaslight. The therapist.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's right.

[Tom Segura]

That's right. She watched it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I was ready and prepared.

[Tom Segura]

That was AI. That wasn't me.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Because any I told. I think any fudged his answers. I think he's. I think he will lie on the test.

[Tom Segura]

Well, he did well.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He did well. He is Way to go.

[Tom Segura]

Any.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's impossible. That isn't fucking.

[Tom Segura]

Here's what I will say is what I will Say, I think if I took this test literally, like three months ago, it'd be very different. I did that TMS shit, right?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

And so I think, honestly, it. Fuck.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yo, are you medicated too? Are you on meds?

[Tom Segura]

No, I actually stop my meds. I was on. I was on some crazy shit. Well, I stopped it because of. You did say something. We had a small chat before, and one of the things you said was this, you know, depends the day you take this test, which makes sense.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You can have bad mood and you can relate in the moment.

[Tom Segura]

Yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You know, like, you can go. And you even mentioned, you know, it can be either. Do you decipher between professional and personal?

[Tom Segura]

Right.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You know, and what's.

[Tom Segura]

What I felt like it was this. I was making it for the audience to know. I was like, you know, one of the questions was like, are you attention seeking? And I was like thinking about my normal everyday thing of like, I don't like attention when I walk into any room. And then I go. But it's disingenuous for me as a performer to say I don't like attention because when I'm on stage, I certainly want your attention. Yeah. So things like that, right? Where you kind of go, how do I answer this?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. And you got like the histrionic personality disorder where there is attention seeking, there is manipulation, you know, especially in the sense of using their body for attention, you know, trying to. The flirtation and everything, you know, and. Yeah, and I've actually got questions for you. It's going to be awesome. But any. He was clinically significant in disinhibition, which means he is orientated toward immediate gratification.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Individuals scoring high on this can be easily distracted, may act on impulse, and have difficulty with responsibility and commitment.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, of course he's nodding.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He was high on. He was above average on schizotyple, which is just very eccentric person. And antisocial with psychopathy.

[Tom Segura]

What the fuck happened? I thought I was like, number three. What the hell happened?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's a scale. Number six of us are Number six.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Happened, which means he's characterized by callousness.

[Tom Segura]

What?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Deceitfulness?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Impulsivity.

[Tom Segura]

Yes. This is crazy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Irresponsibility. Manipulative. Risk taking.

[Tom Segura]

Yes.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Attention seeking.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And low levels of anxiety and withdrawal.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So what would his personality disorder be if he were to lean into one?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Antisocial with psychopathy.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, this is. Hold on.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But he still.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's.

[Tom Segura]

It's.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's. It's above average, but not significant. That would make me Go. Ding, ding, ding. He needs therapy.

[Tom Segura]

There you go.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wow.

[Tom Segura]

That's a positive. That's a positive result, Annie.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay, Annie, you don't need therapy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I mean, you know, don't need therapy.

[Tom Segura]

All right. Okay. So those words were, you know, a little concerning. Threw a lot of crazy words out there. Well, if you do want to kill people.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But if you do want to gaslight a therapist, you do want attention from the therapist.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I have a question, Dr. Hope.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What about ADHD? Does he lean towards that? Because he said that himself many, like, I'm adhd. I'm adhd.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And I wonder if he really is. If you look towards distractibility.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, that was my number one thing.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Right? Yes.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Eccentric. Just kind of little off the chart, off the wall. Thoughts and experiences. Withdrawal, separation, insecurity would be part of that, but his anxiety kind of takes that down a little bit.

[Tom Segura]

Got it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But the thing is, is ADHD also looks different for everybody. And it looks different. Different especially for men and women. You know, like, I struggled with ADHD as a kid, but never knew it until I became a therapist. And I was like, oh, crap, I've had it. But now that I'm in perimenopause, it actually impacts my ADHD even more.

[Tom Segura]

Cool.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So it increases it.

[Tom Segura]

Awesome. God.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Life is.

[Tom Segura]

Life is fun. Yeah. Okay, so let's move along to.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm dying to. I'm shaking. I'm so excited.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I will give you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I love this.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Hang on. I'm still sorting through them, so.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I can't believe you made top six Healthiest Andy. And that means everyone else is absolutely nuts.

[Tom Segura]

Let me ask you before you say this next thing.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes.

[Tom Segura]

Are there any, like, red flag people on this?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Of course, yes. And I want to challenge them, but they're not here.

[Tom Segura]

Okay, well, let's go.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Multiple people or just one?

[Tom Segura]

Let's say. Let's save the. The top three. I don't know what they are yet.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's amazing.

[Tom Segura]

I guess I should just ask. Just. Let's just get right to it. What's going on? Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You go starting at where you get elevated and clinically, where things are just higher is Garrett. So Garrett is high in negative affectivity. He is clinically significant in that and elevated in disinhibition, which means he is high in anxiety. High in separate separation anxiety. Sure. High in emotional ability. He's high in anhedonia and that he's depressed as well.

[Tom Segura]

You know, those guys are in edit bays. That's fine.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

High distractibility, high Eeries, high impulsivity. Good eccentricity.

[Tom Segura]

I like it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

This is his is where the personality disorders out of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 out of 7, 5 started to 5 or above average. The one that goes into clinically significant is borderline personality.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Male borderlines are very rare, aren't they? Usually, it's.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, it's usually women in that.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wow, I like that. Congratulations, Garrett.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What brings him into that is his anxiety.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wow.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Emotional liability, impulsivity, risk taking and separation insecurity.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wow.

[Tom Segura]

Okay, that's good. That's fine.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Good job, Garrett. He's a great editor, though. Yeah, it all works in his favor.

[Tom Segura]

Who's next?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Caitlyn.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I love Kate.

[Tom Segura]

Caitlin.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Caitlyn glows clinically significant into negative affectivity and psychoticism. And that was pretty much from anxiety, emotional liability. Her liability, Eccentricity, perceptual dysregulation and unusual beliefs.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Which brings her into five of the seven are above average. Borderline is elevated. So we would consider that. And a clinically significant is schizotypal.

[Tom Segura]

Okay, what does this mean?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Very eccentric.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, cool.

[Tom Segura]

What does that mean?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I'll give you a purse. Let me give you an example here. I've got like, there's so many examples.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Schizo, schizo, typical schizotypal, schizotype.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So you have. Yeah, it's tipple. Just the way it's pronounced, this personality disorder. So, yeah, I've got so much information, it's ridiculous. And my mind can't remember every single.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Pervasive pattern of social and interpersonal personal deficits.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Discomfort with and reduced capacity for close relationships. Yeah, this is me too. I mean, what are you telling me?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Everybody is eccentric?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But I think being in the field that you all are, you have to have an oddity.

[Tom Segura]

But here's the thing. Caitlin's funny and I think so funny. I would not want her to get treatment.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, no, no, because.

[Tom Segura]

No, I like that she has great ideas. She's done some of the funniest videos here for us. So please don't get help.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, but see, like an example of schizotypal is back to the future, the professor.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Caddyshack. Bill Murray in it. Yes. So that's more. That's what the schizotypal is, just odd. Okay, so cool, standout type of thing.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's why I like her.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Next is cougar.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, cougar's right there. Right after that. Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Clinically significant in antagonism.

[Tom Segura]

Hey.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Means you can be A jerk. Yeah. Disinhibition. So he scored high for deceitfulness.

[Tom Segura]

Wow.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Grandiosity.

[Tom Segura]

Wow.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Thinks very highly of himself. And manipulative.

[Tom Segura]

Wow. Cougar.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, Cougar.

[Tom Segura]

How do you feel about that?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Cougar needs to see therapy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Congratulations, Cougar.

[Tom Segura]

That's awesome. Cougar.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Cougar, good for you.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Because every one of them.

[Tom Segura]

Wow.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Cougar, dude, you scored so high. Congratulations.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Every personality disorder goes up. He is highest in antisocial. Antisocial with, like, psychopathy. And the highest is narcissism.

[Tom Segura]

Cougar, this is a revelation to all of us. This is very exciting.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Also, Cougar's very good at his job too. So I would recommend not seeing seeking therapy, because whatever you're doing is working for us.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. But here's the thing. If you want to stay here, you stay how you are.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. Don't change.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So Cougar started the top five.

[Tom Segura]

He starts the top five.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. So number four, huh? And I met her.

[Tom Segura]

Huh?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Heather.

[Tom Segura]

What?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I would have thought she's the most normal.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. They get you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Where is she?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

They get you.

[Tom Segura]

Y' all don't see her when you leave, man.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I'm not gonna say what vehicle I drove in. I don't want my tire slashed.

[Tom Segura]

Holy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, no, she's not that bad, so. But she's. She. She's elevated in antagonism.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Really? I don't see that.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Clinically significant in disinhibition and psychoticism. And she did start scoring high on her personality disorder.

[Tom Segura]

Wow. So Heather. Here's Heather right here.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

She's a winner.

[Tom Segura]

She's a winner.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Good job, Heather.

[Tom Segura]

She's very talented, very smart.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

She's amazing.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But this is awesome is she's elevated and antisocial with psychopathy.

[Tom Segura]

Well, here she is here. Do you have any girl? Yes, doctor, that you'd like to ask Heather.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Well, I guess once I look at narcissism being clinically significant.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wow.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

How do you think about yourself? I don't know. I just felt like I answered it, like, first gut.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I was like, yeah, sometimes I do.

[Tom Segura]

That or think that way.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But I never would have thought with attention seeking. What are ways you'd say you like to seek attention? Performing music. Oh, what kind of. What do you do?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I play keys and sing.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That would be the only way for attention seeking and in my work.

[Tom Segura]

And she does butthole videos on OnlyFans. I was.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I was going there. I try to be good at everything.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I do so that I can get.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I asked you a normal Therapy question. Do you have a close relationship with your parents? Not super close. Who's closer? Mom. Mom. Was dad around a lot or was he emotionally detached? Probably emotionally detached. Have you had struggle with dating off and on? No. Do you get attached very quickly? I mean, I don't have much to compare it to. I've been married for seven years, so. How old are you?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

29.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh, okay, so you're young. So did you date in high school?

[Tom Segura]

Mmm.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Just like casually. If you were to rate on self esteem, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1, being piss poor, don't want to think of yourself, 10 is I am the utmost, most amazing thing God created seven. That's pretty average. What would you think of your relationship with your husband? I think it's pretty good.

[Tom Segura]

Hmm.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

We enjoy each other's company a lot and have, I think, a good emotional balance. Okay. I won't go too deep into her on that.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, I will say Heather is very pleasant to be around and just such talented darling. But what's her personality disorder?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I would. It would be a narcissism.

[Tom Segura]

Wow.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So she was high on attention seeking. Now, the one thing with therapy, you know, is, you know, has been described too. Never is that you have to do random questions. Like I ask. I ask questions and I think of it like a spider web. It's never always a straight sequence. I jump around to see everything that's connected because I'll look at things like this and I kind of look at it like a spider web. The core issues at the center of it and all of the rings around it are the different behaviors that developed off of it. And somehow they're all interconnected. And therapy usually hits the outside to knock it down. But what happens is that behavior rebuilds, but in a different way. So if you don't get at the core, you're not going to dismantle it. So that's why my questions were kind of bouncing around what I was asking with her. So it is very normal that if you have narcissism in the family, certain behaviors are going to be passed on generationally.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, you'll inherit.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And so, like distractibility, Clinically high on eccentricity, Grandiosity.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Nice.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Irresponsibility.

[Tom Segura]

Nice.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Perceptual dysregulation, unusual beliefs, separation, insecurity and rigid perfectionism.

[Tom Segura]

Well, you know, I know something, Heather.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I think you're awesome.

[Tom Segura]

You are where you belong.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh, I met her. She just. She just felt like a saint.

[Tom Segura]

She's the best.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, I loved her.

[Tom Segura]

Lovely.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I Just took her vibes.

[Tom Segura]

Who, who's next?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Top three.

[Tom Segura]

Top three.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Gamba.

[Tom Segura]

So.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Jesus Christ.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

By the way, I love Heather's tattoos on her.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, she's the coolest.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, she's the coolest. Gamba is one of our editors there. I'll just say this from somebody who, like, you know, I come in and out of the office, I see him with some frequency. Troubling, troubling individual.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, my God.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I was wondering.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

We need to talk. I have openings next week. I even do weekends. Seven days a week.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Wow.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I will talk at 8:00 o' clock at night if you need to. I'll skip.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, there he is.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I'll skip the gym for Gamba.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You need help, my friend.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. What's happening?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You got a sigh, dude.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Once I got to these top three like it described in the lobby, I had a mental hard on because this would be amazing to dive into.

[Tom Segura]

So. So Gamba, he, he, he threw up some flags.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. So the personality domain for psychoticism, antagonism, disinhibition.

[Tom Segura]

Whoa, you're off the charts.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You're literally off the chart.

[Tom Segura]

Another thing too, as a non professional, is that he has that great quality of a, like a kind of like a troubling individual. Yes. Who doesn't realize that they are that way. You know, I mean, like, yeah, he has such a pleasant demeanor walking in, but you're like, you're fucking crazy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh, he's probably just used to living in it. Yeah, it's just part of who he is. Yeah, it's. It's just. It'll be part of his childhood development.

[Tom Segura]

What is the personality disorder that is most likely in, in him?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's hard to determine.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Schizoid, some schizoid stuff. He's definitely removed from reality.

[Tom Segura]

Holy. Oh, my God.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

All of them.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

All of them.

[Tom Segura]

All of them.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

The top, the top two are schizotypal, which we're not going to say is a big thing, but antisocial.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Definitely.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And borderline. Wow.

[Tom Segura]

Nice. How's it feel, Gamba? I don't feel good right now. You don't? No. But see, that's a healthy response.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And so I guess the question is, did you have a good childhood?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, like, I love my parents. Like, I get along with them.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, you're fucked.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Did you have some form of trauma when you were a kid?

[Tom Segura]

I mean, I can't get into it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, I'm not gonna get into the trauma then. That already tells my mind in the direction I would go. Okay, so there's levels of trauma now borderline. A lot of people will say borderline comes from trauma and it doesn't really. No, not where does it come from.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Why?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It can be just developed. Yes. Yeah, it can be developed. It can be from experiences, but that's kind of in the low percentage of it. But this also tells me that there's. That's why I asked on the trauma, because if there is trauma, he's going to have a lot of these behaviors that attention seeking is across the board, you know, deceitfulness, hostility, hostility, manipulative, risk taking. Sometimes, like I said out there, risk taking comes for some people because they're trying to stay in reality.

[Tom Segura]

Right.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You know, do you ever feel like there's times you dissociate or you disengage when things get highly stressful or confrontational?

[Tom Segura]

It happened a second ago right now.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

My bad.

[Tom Segura]

But he is. He is a sweetheart though.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. And some people can eat like that.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But also too some because I dissociated for many years before I knew that's what I was doing. Can you describe what that means?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What happens, how it feels? This is how I explain to my people. I don't use the word client because I hate that word. It's so detached, you know, So I use people. The way I describe trauma to my people is when we're born. You know, our. The right side of our brain comes right online into the world. Baby starts to learn their behaviors, you know, they start to learn emotions, as is where our trauma responses develop. Then you got the left side of the brain that starts to develop over time, which is our normalcy of life. Our key time is our adolescent years 12 to 16. That's also the key time. Our prefrontal cortex, or I call our adult mind starts to develop. So our normalcy of life is. His normalcy will be different than my normalcy. Yalls normalcy are also going to be different. If you have a healthy home, There's a proper balance in communication between all of them, all three of them. But if you have trauma on the left side is where you start to develop the behaviors to exist within that trauma. I watched an episode from two years ago. I'm gonna sound like a creeper now. When your mom came to visit and you guys were in Miami or you guys. Hawaii.

[Tom Segura]

Oh yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You know, but then I watched the next day episode or the next episode. And the way you were talking about the way you grew up, up with your mom. I get it. I don't talk to my mother. You know, so what happens is you start to develop behaviors to live within that world because this becomes the good child. Because if dad's a drunk, I know I have to go in my room and hide and ain't gonna beat me.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So we start to develop. This is where you're gonna find the dissociation and everything, because it's like, if I disengage, I won't get hurt. But then what happens is the other side is where we have our emotions. We can have a dysregulation of emotions because everything gets put away. This becomes the bad child. And I kind of tell people, remember in history, the timeline and you had to put the dot and the events that happened in time. So if you have the Civil War, the emotions and experiences that happen in that time started, developed in that time. Everybody grew off of that. It's the same thing with our behaviors. Say if you're 6 years old and you get assaulted. Well, an emotion develops in that time. So when you're an adult and you're having certain experiences, remember, you didn't go through that. A child went through that. So it's a child's emotion that gets developed in that time that never properly got to grow. So I tell people, you didn't go through the trauma. A child did. So what happens is, think of a hallway. And every child part that. That got developed, each emotion that got developed in time kind of gets away in the room, and they're not allowed to come up. But when they come out, we don't know how to handle it. We don't know how to handle them because we never learned to regulate them because they were bad. They got us in trouble. They got us beat. They got us everything bad. So there's no proper communication because the prefrontal cortex, the adult mind, supposed to calm everybody and regulate everybody. You know, your decision making, your rationalization and all of that.

[Tom Segura]

On the Hawaii episode, did you see what a gaslighting manipulator my mother is?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I could see certain things. Yeah. And. But I could see how you learned how to engage that by acting as if that didn't exist. And then she becomes kind of like your rescue. Because she sees it. Because I know it's probably a reflection of your mom, but you kind of go back and you become his protector.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Because I could see a recoil in you. But then when everybody answered, I watched everybody's posture back there, and I'm wondering.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I can't see. I can, because I'm part. I can't See? Oh, there they are. I can see their heads. Raise your hand if one of you. If any of y' all felt like a recoil, a child recoil, going against somebody older than you were an adult. None of you.

[Tom Segura]

Wait, I think I. I don't understand it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No.

[Tom Segura]

So.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So when you. When he asked. When you guys were doing the burping thing or. No, your beard. You're. You're talking about your beard. What looked better because you had shaved.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, right, right, right. This is an old episode.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. Two years ago. Yeah. I'm kind of weird.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Let me talk about Hawaii. I want to talk about Hawaii. She kept doing it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes. So you had shaved, and there was the first time in, like, 15 years.

[Tom Segura]

You said, yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So you shaved and you had stubble. And she was trying to say, no, no, no, go back. And you were like, all right, let me ask the guys. And she said, no, no. They're going to give you the answer that you want because you're the boss. But I kind of saw.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Not everybody relaxed, going. You know, answering. Not in the way she thought.

[Tom Segura]

Well, what I remember most about, like, what comes to me about that episode was the. The thing where I remember she was saying she wanted me to buy something for her on that trip.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

The necklace.

[Tom Segura]

The necklace. And what I did, I was like, yeah. I wasn't, like, volunteering. She goes, yeah, you did. And we brought my sister in.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

And she was like, I can't lie. And then my mom was like, how much did he pay you? Like, she.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

She. She can't believe that, you know, type of thing.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But I guess when you guys had to give what his beard looked like, did you feel awkward going against her?

[Tom Segura]

No, no, no, not me, personally.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Anybody.

[Tom Segura]

Solo. Did you feel weird? No.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Not going against her? No. Okay. Because I saw tents.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, maybe they were. I mean, it was probably tense because they saw someone wanting to kill their mother.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, that could be it, too.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

She's the worst. So. But I mean. And that's where I'm trying to go is like, sometimes there's, like, a child recoil. Yeah, of course you had already. You know, it was. It was like, this is Mom. And it's like, no matter how old we get, there's still that part of us that responds to that. So. Well, I guess with Gamba. Well, no, he already dissociated, so that already tells me now. Are you being honest that you dissociated? Are you BSing me?

[Tom Segura]

No, I was being honest, but I'm back in.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Okay, so dissociation. Let Me ask you this. When you dissociate, what does that feel like to you? Do you just space out or do you kind of go numb?

[Tom Segura]

I kind of like. Like, some words come in, but I'm really. I don't know, like I'm in my head.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Okay. So what that tells me is when we talk about child parts, those trauma parts, something got engaged. Saying you got too close too quick. And so now that's a defense mechanism. Would you say that would be fair?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Okay. And so that's how, you know, you deal with trauma. But if there is something like that from the heart, I think it would probably be one day get to that point to process stuff. It won't take away from the job you do, but it. I hope you have your perspective kind of cleared up.

[Tom Segura]

Okay, so Gamba and Gamba only can go to therapy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, Gamba's allowed.

[Tom Segura]

Who's next?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I think would do.

[Tom Segura]

Who's next on the red flag list? Because we have. We're at the top two, by the way. I'm on. I'm over here, like, freaking out, wondering.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What y' all are on.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. This is number two we're about to do.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes.

[Tom Segura]

Okay. Who is number two?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Niana. What? Thank you for talking with me, Gamba.

[Tom Segura]

Thanks, Gamba.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Thank you, Gamba. Get therapy, Niana.

[Tom Segura]

There she is.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Love her. That's my girl right there.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So the only one she was not elevated on was antagonism.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh, yeah. But everything else she was.

[Tom Segura]

Everything else she was.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, you broke the scale.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, holy. Yeah, she's up there.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Damn, girl, You're a high achiever, buddy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

We're a high end. Clinically significant negative effectivity. Sure.

[Tom Segura]

What does that mean? What does that mean for, like, what does negative effectivity mean?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

The way they see the world. Very negative, very anxious.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You know, suspicious of it.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Then the psychoticism and disinhibition.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Now it's. She had the emotional ability. It's. It can fluctuate.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Mobility means changeability.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. So she can disengage her emotions very quickly.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Quickly, yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So it's like a. Have you ever had that out of sight out on mine?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Definitely.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Do you have adhd? I've never been diagnosed. Okay. But yeah, usually if you have somebody that's very negative.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, do you?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yo, yo. Back and forth, like, with attachment, with people. Like, you want them close, but you don't want them close. Like, if they get too close, it's like, you got to put the brakes on. Yeah, I could see that. But if they Try and walk away and ignore you. Does it suck?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Okay. And then she's high in eccentricity. Perceptual dysregulation. Yes. Unusual beliefs.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Of course. Aliens and I talk about it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I'll talk about you with aliens. Distractibility, irresponsibility, withdrawal.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

She's a great employee now, so great. She really is amazing.

[Tom Segura]

Also another one, I gotta say, doing a great job. Do not get help. Keep going.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

She would probably. Well, no, but she scored high on things.

[Tom Segura]

That's up there. Elevated.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So she's elevated on schizotypal, which is okay. She's elevated on ocd.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Of course. She is clinically significant on avoidant. Of course. And creeping into borderline.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, good. Congratulations.

[Tom Segura]

You know what, though? You got a nice dash of it. That's all you got.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

She got a good sprinkle of everything.

[Tom Segura]

Some seasoning.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So have you. Who are you closer to in your family? My mom. Your mom? Yeah. But we are both emotionally volatile together. Is your mom anxious person?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Absolutely.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Was there any parentification?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

100. Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Was dad around?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, he's a good dad.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Okay. But your mom, did she come from a hard life?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes, definitely.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Did she deal with abuse? Yep. Do you think she was overreactive with you?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Definitely.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Was she a helicopter parent?

[Tom Segura]

No, I wouldn't say.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So if you were to talk to her and tell her how you were feeling, what would she do? She'd get very defensive. Make it about her.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

What you talking about my mom or Nana's mom?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You guys related? No. Yeah, you could be.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, my God.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Do you. Are you anxious about how people perceive you?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That's all I think about all the time.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, baby, we love you.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Thank you. She looks so innocent.

[Tom Segura]

She's sweet girl.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

She's.

[Tom Segura]

She really. She really is great.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

For you. Do you panic when people get close to you? Like, say, okay, let me reword it. Do you give too much of yourself to people really quick?

[Tom Segura]

Oh, yeah, probably.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Are you quick to end friendships or relationships?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes. That's borderline.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You got. So what is your perception? Just of your life.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Of my life or, like, of myself?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Let's go yourself. I think I'm very anxious and I'm a perfectionist that, like, needs validation. So I call this a perception filter. So when we. When I was younger, we did something called the grapevine effect, but I guess they call it telephone. You put people in a line, you tell the first person a sentence, and then everybody passes it on and whispers. And at the end you have a totally different sentence. I Kind of look at that as that's life. People tell us something and then all of these people in the middle are the experiences that we've had in life that change our perspective of how we see things. That's the filter that this truth has to go through. And on the other side is we get a skewed version of that statement.

[Tom Segura]

Sure.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So sometimes when you have people that have had. Especially I have a lot of people that have very anxious mothers, very controlling mothers, emotionally manipulative mothers, you know, they. It's hard for them to trust. Trust people. Do you have a hot. Do you feel more comfortable with friendships with men or women? Women. Really?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, I think so. I think here, definitely. Right. Like at the studio.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

By the way, I feel the same. Like the same type of mother stuff.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes.

[Tom Segura]

And I definitely feel more at ease with women. Even like though my mother is like.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I feel sometimes people go the opposite to the healthier side. So. Okay. I guess that was all I could ask for that.

[Tom Segura]

Okay, here's we got Niana. Don't get help. Okay, we're down to number one. I am so anxious. Please be Christina. Is it Christina? Is it Christina? Is it Christina?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, but I think this person fudged their test.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wow.

[Tom Segura]

Is it me?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Did you lie?

[Tom Segura]

No. I'm asking what she.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What she said, but I think this person was doing it just to BS or to have fun. Because if not. So what happened is when I ran this person's test for this assessment, I messaged Zolo and I had to ask if he was a combat veteran.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Chris Larson. Where's Chris's test, by the way?

[Tom Segura]

Wait, so hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Before. Before we get to this, before we get to this, our combat vet who's deeply troubling. Can. Can you tell us based on your test who is crazier between me and Christina? Cuz that's really. What.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wait, wait, we're going to do this first?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, of course. Because we know it's not us.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, you guys are separate from her.

[Tom Segura]

So we have to ask. But where.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But where do we go on the scale of. Of. I know. I'm just almost.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Christina.

[Tom Segura]

Where am I crazy?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

She got. She got more than you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

More. What?

[Tom Segura]

What?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Now the suspense starts. So this person.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Tanner.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, Tanner. So Tanner, just to be clear, he's our. He's I think our youngest person. He's a comedian. Like I told you, comedians are very mine. He is crazy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's either he's really Crazy or he was just having fun? Because there might be a little like that. I think he did it to manipulate.

[Tom Segura]

I think it's a little bit of both because. Wait, can we call him? Yeah, why don't we get him on?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'd say that he manipulated the exam. Oh, yeah. He's with you. There's no way.

[Tom Segura]

Well, let's ask him. Let's ask.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And by the way, Tanner.

[Tom Segura]

What's up? Hey. How are you, buddy? I'm good. Where are you today? We thought you'd be here.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, where are you?

[Tom Segura]

Oh, I'm. I'm actually. I'm in California right now. I'm in SoCal. You still work here? Yeah, yeah, I do. Okay. So we're going through the psych evaluations, and we've run through all of them, and she had one that she flagged. She's like, this is the most significant one by far. Did I win? Well, she. She thought it was somebody who maybe served time in combat.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Whoa.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. And so the real question here with. With. With Dr. Hope is, is did you manipulate your answers or were you truthful? Like, were you having fun or were you being honest?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Were you goofing?

[Tom Segura]

No, I was. I was, like, really locked in for that. I, like, wanted, like, be honest about it because I heard, like, a professional was going to analyze it, so.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So you were on it.

[Tom Segura]

Now let me. Pretty serious.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Okay, so let me make it.

[Tom Segura]

She's here.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

This isn't saying combat vets are b. Crazy. No, I know, I know, but it's just that it's. Have you gone through some serious stuff in life?

[Tom Segura]

I mean, other people might think it's serious, but I think it's kind of fun.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He lived in a cargo.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What is it?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

A cargo in a container.

[Tom Segura]

I lived in a shipping container for, like, a year, and then I.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

How old are you?

[Tom Segura]

23.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh. You still a baby. What's wonderful is he's still in development.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Brain's not done development lobe is not fully.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, it is. It's between 12 to 16. However, that's the key development. But his just. The way he sees things. Way. Sees the world, the way he's processing. It's. It's. It's like think of your brain slowly getting encased in glass. You can change things, take things out, remove things, but once that glass casing.

[Tom Segura]

Comes in, it's done.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's kind of like it set in, and it takes longer to kind of readapt things or change things.

[Tom Segura]

So. Tanner was clinically significant in almost every category.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I showed you that.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. So I'm like a Navy seal.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

When I was in combat in Afghanistan.

[Tom Segura]

Whoa. So you are at like, the hundredth percent percentile for antisocial. Antisocial with psychopathy, borderline narcissistic, and schizo tipple. Oh, my goodness.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And above average and avoidant and obsessive compulsive. So it's kind of like what I ask a lot of people.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Congratulations.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Did you have a good home life?

[Tom Segura]

Does this mean I'm going to be successful?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Well, honestly, depends how you use it.

[Tom Segura]

Okay, well, we're on the light side of the force, so this is good. Yeah. I mean, this is not.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So that would be avoidant.

[Tom Segura]

So that's avoidant. Right. But he's not. I don't. You know, he's funny. He. He. He says outrageous thing, which, by the way, all comedians do.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Absolutely.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Very funny or anything, but I almost was. So there's the full sentence.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Here we go. I wasn't going that deep with everybo today, but. No, but that shows. It's just that there's probably going to be some stuff there. Was there ever in the family, was there anybody with anger, alcohol or drug use?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Yes. Yes. It took a while for my parents to tell me about it, but yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Okay. Did you grow up where things were unstable or you moved around a lot?

[Tom Segura]

Like, I was unstable?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, the home was unstable. Did you guys move around a lot?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I got a pee. I'm sorry.

[Tom Segura]

I mean, we lose.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Okay. We're parents home a lot.

[Tom Segura]

Sometimes. Like, my mom decided to get, like, a job at one point, so that was kind of cool.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That was kind of chunky.

[Tom Segura]

What?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Getting a job? Don't count on it.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. So.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So it's. If he answered truthfully on these.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

One day. I definitely say, you know, it doesn't take away from who you are as a person, but it'd be some things just to dive into and talk to someone.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. So, Tanner, would you be open to just going to therapy? Like, seeing. What if it does something for you? Yeah. I mean, that would be something I'd. I'd look into. Okay. I for sure have some problems. I do know that. Well, yeah, we all do, buddy. It's not just you. Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Everybody. I learned.

[Tom Segura]

I'm, like, in, like, the top of the top. Like, I'm. I'm special forces, you guys.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You got.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You got. You're not.

[Tom Segura]

Don't say Tanner, you got some stuff you dealt you. There was. There were 16 evaluations, and there was one she put aside where she goes. We really need to discuss this one. And that was yours. That's you, buddy. So when you get back. Out of myself. Yeah. We'll have a. Have some places for you to go. Maybe.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I'll leave my business card.

[Tom Segura]

Great. That's great. I think it'd be. It'd be fun to know exactly which category he ultimately falls into.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Sort through all of it and see.

[Tom Segura]

You're not gonna make me take meds.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, no, I don't see. I'm not a psychiatrist. I, I, I.

[Tom Segura]

The last lady did that and I didn't like her.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I'm not a fan of medicine unless it's absolutely necessary, like as a support, a supportive device. A supportive, you know, things, but other than that.

[Tom Segura]

Some talk therapy, man.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

No.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And I focus. I focus on complex trauma. And that's what my doctor exists to swords is trauma, Traumatology.

[Tom Segura]

So. Well, so I have the brain of a combat veteran. He's really.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You got, you got, you got some trauma that is off the charts for someone you're. You got, you got numbers that are off the charts for someone your age without having gone through any form of trauma. And for you, that, I mean, I've gone through trauma. Yeah. And so. No, this just shows that there's something there. A lot of things that are there that probably haven't been dealt with.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, no, I do a lot of, like, self dealing.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I would, I'm gonna say that would.

[Tom Segura]

Probably be weak from a professional, but I don't know. I don't know any professionals. Really.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yep. And so it's just. There's just some things that look like they have you sorted out, that's all.

[Tom Segura]

Let's. Let's get you in a room, bud. Let's get you in a room on a couch. Awesome. Okay. I like the casting couch.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Well, if you do, if you do want to do therapy, I only do virtual.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And Tanner, therapy doesn't make you less funny, so don't worry about that. It'll actually make you better at stand up and make it funnier.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And what it can do is take the, a lot of the negatives and they can actually become things you can use to help yourself.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Like don't say combat vet. That was a mistake on my part.

[Tom Segura]

No, I wasn't. I was just like, people turn bad things into good things all the time. No.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And a lot of people will, you know, there. You'll have some therapists that'll do it wrong where they try to take Away all of the negative things that you've had or like all of the child trauma parts, they try and make them go away instead of saying, let them exist, let them have importance. You know, because our trauma parts all play a role in our lives. They become pretty much our protectors, but they end up hurting us at the same time.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

If they're too funky.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. If they're too strong, activated. You know, if you think about people, that can be self destructive.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Well, that's also a defense mechanism.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, I think I'm a little bit of that too.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Plus your age, 23 is.

[Tom Segura]

You're such a baby.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So you'll see stuff like that. So, you know, it's just there might be behaviors of distrust. There might be behaviors of, you know, being avoidant. You know, let me. Let me tell you stuff. But I'm not going to tell you stuff.

[Tom Segura]

Right.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Sometimes possibly being passive aggressive when it doesn't need to happen.

[Tom Segura]

Tana, we're going to turn this alarming red flag into a positive. Okay. That's a good thing.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, it's a great thing. You're fine.

[Tom Segura]

You're good, buddy. You're good.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Be great.

[Tom Segura]

Safe travels back. Don't hurt anybody.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

We miss you. Get back here.

[Tom Segura]

Okay. I won't hurt anybody. Oh, boy. With a laugh.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So just monitor his path across the state. See, because I looked, I was like, battery is a serial killer.

[Tom Segura]

That's good.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Okay, so first of all, I'm very upset that you think I'm crazier than Tom. First of all, I'd like to.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Well, you're beautiful, by the way.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Thank you, babes. So first of all, where do I rank in the. The lineup of the 16?

[Tom Segura]

You.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Well, for you would probably actually none of yours. Neither of you. You guys would be in the top. Top two. Two to three.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What do you mean? Of crazy or of less crazy?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Less crazy.

[Tom Segura]

Nice.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You guys would be in the tops.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Shut the up.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So no way. We go back to.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You guys would be rerun the test. There's no way.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yep. You guys would be three and four. You would come above. You would come before Reed.

[Tom Segura]

Me?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Both of you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Dude, high five, bro.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You guys would come before Reed?

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, Reed's up.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, Reed's not bad.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

No, he's normal.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Wait, so you're saying of all these people that work here, Tom and I are in the.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

In the top five of healthiest. Yes.

[Tom Segura]

Talk about fudge and answers.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Now after watching bad thoughts.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yo, yo.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I have a question.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Thank you.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What were you doing In a moment you came up with that. Where you on the toilet? Was she doing some dominatrix stuff?

[Tom Segura]

Were you drinking accident? Wait.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh no, the whole thing.

[Tom Segura]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Because at one point I was gonna say, you know, there's some scenes. I mean, was there pegging going on or something at home? Because you came up with some crazy ass ideas. I'm just trying to figure out.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Me too. I'm trying to figure out where they're from as well. No, I'm being serious.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Oh yeah. I. I was like.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Because I'm like, this is mental health problems. When I saw that show, I'm like, first of all, how many. It's all. It's dick stuff. It was like he just wants to the world.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Is it all repressed sexual going on at that.

[Tom Segura]

Just got renewed for season two. Very excited. It was back in the writers room, I think of.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I thought of it like a mix between your comedy and Jackass.

[Tom Segura]

Interesting.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You know, because Jackass. I sat through some of that. I was like, oh God. There was one thing I could not get through and that was with the sister on the back. I actually fast forwarded through that.

[Tom Segura]

It was. You're not the only one.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That was the one.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I was like, I'm done.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's very curious. Yeah, it's very, very. If you were to psychoanalyze. I'm not going to because I don't have a degree. But very interesting one.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I think it is just stemmed in humor of the gotcha effect. The aha. You know, I think shocking off the shock and awe. I like that's what there is in that.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Because he likes to horrify his mommy.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

So we're all the collective do like upsetting people.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, he loves to upset people.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I don't know where it's upsetting, but I. I think there is that sadistic side that. That exists, you know, to have fun with seeing people's reactions and maybe that goes into the attention seeking.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, I do like that. I do like seeing people's reactions and I do like seeing somebody get mortified, horrified, scared. Like I like, I like doing all those things to people.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So that might be that attention seeking that you were wondering on. Yeah, you know that it's. There's like the show Jackass is about the attention seeking, right? Absolutely. You know, I will tell you, in the beginning I was like, damn, he could play a professional. I was impressed. I was like the first scene it was walking. I was like, it's going to be a serious show. Y And then he himself.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

Well, thank you.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. I almost paused sessions to finish it.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But I had to ask what was going through your mind when you created that.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, Well, I mean, the thing is, there's so many things going through the. The mind. Because a show like that, you develop over time. And, you know, one of them, one of the stories might have come to me, like, you know, 15 years ago. And you just have this nugget, and then you try to figure out, how do I write, like, a short story about this little idea? And then also. So some of them are like, very much my brain going like, this is the story. Some of them are honestly. Because there's a writer's room.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Tom Segura]

You throw out, like, a nugget of an idea, and then you have these comedy writers with you, and you guys come up with.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Everybody's coming up.

[Tom Segura]

So there's. It depending on the actual individual story. Yeah. I could tell you, like, oh, that comes from this. Or that came from the room. Or that's this thing that's been in my head for 15 years. Like, it changes depending on the story.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What did you think when he had these ideas?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, I've been, like. He said, I've been listening to a lot of these for about 20 years. That's how long he and I have been together. And so I've seen the nuggets, as he said over the years, they're reoccurring jokes in our world.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

And then the other stuff, I was like, dude, does he just want to everybody else but me, like, what is going on? It was like, every. Every sketch he's banging someone new.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Even the pilots. Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He's. He's licking the. Of old, the elderly and.

[Tom Segura]

No, they were licking my ass.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. I'm like, are we gonna open this marriage up? Are you poly? What's happening?

[Tom Segura]

I'm Polly and I'm by maybe.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But I will say, to be able to do those scenes, it does show he has a high level of security about himself.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

About himself. Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Like, he's not insecure about who he is.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, God, no. This guy loves himself. I'm the one. I think I'm a piece of shit. He thinks he's the God's gift to the world, but that's why I love him, too. I'm attracted to it, but I'm attracted.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

To it because I think I'm God's.

[Tom Segura]

Gift to the world.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He's teaching me. Do you understand? Yeah. I wanted that trait, so that's why I was attracted to him. He was so secure.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He gives you that counterbalance where he'll give you the compliments, but yet you probably try to deflect them and say. Yeah, but doesn't compliment me.

[Tom Segura]

Liar. This is a big lie. This is huge manipulation.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

She look beautiful today.

[Tom Segura]

Listen, this is huge manipulation.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I know.

[Tom Segura]

He does. Yeah. And she 100% does. What you said. If you compliment her, deflect goes. I'm uncomfortable. What are we doing? It just like leaves the apps 100%.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes, 100.

[Tom Segura]

Also, I'm deeply offended by. I think I'm God's gift to the world.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You do? Compared to me, who I think I'm a piece of.

[Tom Segura]

This is. This is again, what should be flagged on your chart. She's a incredible manipulator.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Let me see something startling.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Am I a manipulator?

[Tom Segura]

No. I know you are. I don't need her to tell me anything.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Got the shrink here.

[Tom Segura]

Doesn't matter.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You guys are tied on manipulative.

[Tom Segura]

But here's the thing. She's more.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Come on. We're sharing traits, you psycho.

[Tom Segura]

Certainly more adept at it.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, my God. See, hold on. Why does he interpret my honesty as manipulation?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Excuse me. So the difference.

[Tom Segura]

Excuse me. No, no. Excuse me. I think I'm God's gift to the world. You don't think that's.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I think. I'm sorry. When I say that, I'm comparing it to relative to how I see myself. So when. Relative to my poor self view, my self esteem. And you didn't hear the other part to that, which was I feel like you have the self esteem, the security, the confidence that I wanted when I met you when we were 20 something. And I emulate that. I actually. It's such a good trait that I want that. I'm just. I'm joking. I'm half. I'm exaggerating because we're doing a show right now.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. But I find it deeply offensive. And I think I. I feel like you are just, you know, a disassociative, borderline manipulative, narcissistic, terrible person.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Well, let the doctor Hope tell you if I am.

[Tom Segura]

Well, we know that. We already know that you lie.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm not a borderline narcissistic. I'm none of those things. Nope. And I don't lie.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But she is close to elevated and psychoticism. She's. Clint. She is elevated in school. Schizotypal. She's just eccentric. And then it goes into avoidant. So it's just. It's above average.

[Tom Segura]

Well, here's the Thing. This is why we know she's lying. Because. Because she should be. Your 110 on avoidance.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You got. She scored above average and with OCD bag time. Above average slightly with narcissism.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm a comic.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

She is lowest with antisocial and antisocial with psychopathy. She's clinically significant with anxiety. Absolutely elevated with attention seeking. Sure.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm a comic.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Clinically significant with eccentricity. Restricted affectivity. And I think that's. It's your expressions trying to express. It's just like restrict.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Like.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Like you're kind of like restricted in autistic.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's. Let me find you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I don't share feelings.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I don't exactly.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. I don't like them.

[Tom Segura]

So.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah. No, you're just. You hold stuff in.

[Tom Segura]

Oh.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Big crammer. It's why I had cancer. I know. I. Cancer ate my body. Cuz I can't feel feelings. I don't like to feel them.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, that. Well, after hearing. You know the thing with your mom.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Get the out. My mom's a borderline. My dad's a drunk. Good luck.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But. And that's why the. The disengaging. That's your protective.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's. You know, there's a room in my house where I go to disengage. I have a goth room and I sit there and I get weird alone and I have to do it. Otherwise I. Yeah. Lose my mind.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And that's that elevated on withdrawal.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You know, and that's just that normal. You know to. That's your normalcy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It is my. I love it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Your survival skill. And that. That going into a room to hide. Is that that child emotion, that trauma part saying I'm going to take over. But what happens is the prefrontal cortex, the adult brain disengages during that time and that trauma part takes over. Unless there's a healthy communication, they do not function. At the same time the child part engages and this disengages. And then have you guys ever had it or have you ever watched where you guys have a disagreement and she's kind of going off the rails, being very reactive. But no, not. And she's trying to explain it, but it makes absolutely no sense. And then suddenly she. She calms down and then all of a sudden she's like I'm sorry. I don't know why I did that. I don't know why I felt that way.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I do know. Sorry.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes. At the beginning it was. I don't know why. Now I've had enough therapy that I've analyzed the out of it and I can actually tell him now. Hey, I'm in a. I'm in an episode. I need you to bring me back. And I was like.

[Tom Segura]

She goes, slap the out.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It hit me as hard as you can can in the face like that. Peg me. Yeah, he helps bring me back sometimes. We peg all the time.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It answers a lot of things.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

On bad thoughts, then so much anal play.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I'm telling you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's all. Now go ahead. What are you gonna wait?

[Tom Segura]

No, we just have to rap.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Gene Nem. Oh, we have to rap when it's your turn.

[Tom Segura]

No, we do.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Interesting.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And so we're at the end. So. Which no pun intended.

[Tom Segura]

Thanks for coming in.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

No, you turd. I want to hear. Hear his up.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But, but real quick. Those are your trauma parts kicking in and taking over those episodes.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I teach people to have their partner learn. Hey, that's a child part. Engage a child part. Because if you engage as an adult, you're going to disengage even more for sure.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So you can't be. He can be rational. You're not going to be rational.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

It's not going to work. Yeah. So he needs to feel with me. Not not.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He won't be able to feel with you. And before I get to his. When. When we think of this as trauma or think of this as life, you know, life is a forest. There's all these forests around the world. Okay, so I don't mean to bore you, but this is one of my explanations is there's all these force around the world and there's no two force that are same. No. Same entry point. You and I can be born at the same time with the tree between us. And our paths are still going to be different ahead of us. The obstacles we have, we're going to navigate around. When you look back, there's going to be all of these stones in your path and those are the experiences you've had that have guided you on your path. So no two paths can ever be compared. We can't truly and honestly compare each other ourselves to each other because our paths are different. So he'll never be able to understand or feel what you feel. But he can learn to empathize.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Right.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And engage at your level.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's what I'm saying. Oh yeah. Not over. Not.

[Tom Segura]

I think that is like the of kind of what happened.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

To him.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes. Okay, so he is high in disinhibition, distractibility, impulsivity yeah. He's high in withdrawal.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Check.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He's high in eccentricity. Check. So he withdrawal was higher in antisocial. He was above average and antisocial. Antisocial with psychopathy and borderline the three she was lowest in. So here's yours.

[Tom Segura]

Let me tell you something else.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And here's hers.

[Tom Segura]

But let me tell you something.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm crazier than him.

[Tom Segura]

Tell you something. She deserves it because your schizo tipple deserves it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Just because your schizotypal and avoidant are higher on the above average his are.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Slightly above but he's a borderline A male borderline.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Right.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh I knew it. I knew I married everybody will have a copy of theirs I married a no you didn't.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What else?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What else? Borderline and what else?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Antisocial anti social psychopathy. So it's just which was had the highest elevation was the schizotyple and I.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Beat him only because of the if.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You look at the clinically alarming the ones that are above average I know where he had a higher measure Like.

[Tom Segura]

I'm nowhere near you on any of those.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah, but I no you just funny.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's just funny you guys baited as who was antisocial.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh, this guy.

[Tom Segura]

Right.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Those are her three that are the lowest and yours that are the highest.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

By the way, my mother was a borderline. I've always been very afraid of being borderline. I'm happy to see that my number's very low because I've worked very hard to not carry those traits because I was raised by a woman.

[Tom Segura]

I'm below you on narcissism. Way below.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I guess you don't think you're God's gift.

[Tom Segura]

No, I don't.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But maybe you project that and I would like to learn to project that.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I think.

[Tom Segura]

No, but the thing is I think you're projecting your narcissism on me.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Is that right? Am I? Maybe I'll.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I think maybe with time you've also gotten more confident in some ways you probably started to think better about yourself.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So which means that that's going to be elevated a little bit to look.

[Tom Segura]

You'Re a real piece of here ocd.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm. I'm bat piece of See, I thought he was way more avoidant than me because he tends to go into his cave and ignore me and like the family. Look at this pos Always checking out on the phone. You know who's a piece of where?

[Tom Segura]

Right here, man.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

What's that one again? I'm schizo. What's again? The schizo tip. Type tip.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

The schizo tip.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Just like a weird.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

You're weird. You're eccentric.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Love it. I love it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But yeah, just like. Like Bill Murray on Caddyshack. Just odd.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'm way crazier than that.

[Tom Segura]

You got no antisocial. Wait, I'm curious.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

So.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I let.

[Tom Segura]

I'm curious. This. This schizotyple thing, I feel like we've all scored.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Everybody, I think, scores on it. Yeah, it's in. But you'll have people that. It's really impacts their life. Like. Like, you know, where I live, there's a young lady. I like to shop at the dollar store because it's the best. You feel like you're so many good snacks in there.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yes.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

So I like it. And there's this young girl, young lady that comes in. I don't know what she's dressed as. It's a mix between hoarding and furry.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's super weird.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

It's. She wears, like, big plastic.

[Tom Segura]

Well, you made a. You had a great. Didn't you say, doc? Furniture from Back to the Future.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yeah, I like that guy. Yeah, he's schizotypical.

[Tom Segura]

So like that super eccentric person.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Yes. So she has that. And then her car has not just stickers, but toys glued all over it.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

But yeah, I'm not antisocial and I. I. Because I like nice to people and I don't have antisocialist psychopathy. My husband scores very high.

[Tom Segura]

Not very high. Very average. Very, very average.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Slightly above average.

[Tom Segura]

Purge.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Antisocial. I can't believe we're this healthy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But you guys are. You guys were in the tops of. Of being healthy.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

That's wild.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

But I see that they don't have Chris. Chris.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Where's Chris Larson on this? Because he's a complete.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He would be number four on crazy. Of healthy, unhealthy. So he's higher on. He's highest. He's elevated on detachment.

[Tom Segura]

And that makes sense.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And he's highest. He's. Oh, he's elevated. Almost clinically significant in ocd.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Nice. He's a good editor.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And he's high in avoidant.

[Tom Segura]

Yeah. Yeah. All those guys are.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Everything else is pretty low.

[Tom Segura]

They stay in the bay. He's kicked the dog. Let's.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Ryan is number. Hang on. He was number four. Ryan is.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He's healthy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Number five.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

He's healthy.

[Tom Segura]

Healthy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Highest. Elevated in antagonism. He's deceitful, grandiosity and manipulative.

[Tom Segura]

Look at any.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And he is on the edge. Literally on the edge with antisocial, with psychopathy and ocd.

[Tom Segura]

Wow.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. His numbers are high.

[Tom Segura]

That's high, man.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Healthy.

[Tom Segura]

He's also, I'd like to point out, a thief, so there's that, too. We just learned that this week.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Did he steal your food?

[Tom Segura]

No, he stole. He stole Tanner's gift. It was a gift. It was a gift. Yeah, he stole it.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

That's not nice. Well, that kind of goes well. Maybe that's what the ocd.

[Tom Segura]

It was an honest mistake. Let's call it. It was an honest mistake. Right. Stole it. Okay. It was an honest.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And he was 6. And Chris.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

All right.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Chris was.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Or.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

I'm sorry. Carly was seven. Clinically significant with negative affectivity and a highly above average with borderline narcissism and ocd.

[Tom Segura]

Nice, love.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

We're all winners.

[Tom Segura]

Carly's great.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

We're all winners.

[Tom Segura]

Okay.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Dr. Pope.

[Tom Segura]

Torres.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This is amazing.

[Tom Segura]

Thank you for coming in.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This is so fun.

[Tom Segura]

Thank you for giving us your time and giving us this insight. We know we have some work to do. We have a few people that we are rushing into therapy sessions, and I will. If he's open to it, I will pay for Tanner to see you. If he's open to it.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Yeah. He needs help. Let's get you. Let's get Tanner.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

And if anybody does, you know, I just. I work from home. I have my own practice, and I just. I see everybody virtually, so I like everybody to have control of their environment versus taking them into an environment they're not comfortable in.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This was.

[Tom Segura]

This was really great. Just as the last. She's a fucking liar. Thank you, guys for watching, and we'll see. See you next week. I think you would all be like, this is one sick twitch, twisted deviant. Screaming is like. It makes me laugh. Literally schizophrenic and dangerously psychotic.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Complete lack of emotion.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Thank you.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I have what's called empathy.

[Tom Segura]

Why do you have that?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I think it's a red flag.

[Tom Segura]

He's a psych. Literally schizophrenic and dangerously psychotic. Complete lack of emotion.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I have what's called empathy.

[Tom Segura]

Why do you have that?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I think a red flag.

[Tom Segura]

He's a sucker. Kills that hooker. Kills that hooker. Kills that hooker. Kills that hooker. Kills that hooker. Kills that hooker. Kills that hooker. Kills that hooker. Kills that hooker.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

You think you're a serial killer?

[Tom Segura]

I'll kill us both. I swear to God I will. Now you're in an awkward conversation with a serial killer. The screaming is like Just makes me laugh. The screaming is like, it makes me laugh. The screaming is like, it makes me laugh. You're about to get murdered. The screaming is like, it makes me laugh. The screaming is like, it makes me laugh. The screaming is like, it makes me laugh. No, just look at Psycho.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

Look at his face.

[Tom Segura]

And the screaming is like, it makes me want. The screaming is like this, it makes me want. Screaming is like, it makes me to want. Do you know what kind of a psychopath I look like? Screaming is like, it makes me laugh. The screaming is like, it makes me laugh. Screaming is like it makes me laugh.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

This is the best part though.

[Tom Segura]

I. I hate who I'm becoming socially. Dude, I'm disabled. Jesus. I've never considered that. No psychological training. You can pick that up. Everything is psycho. Am I out of my mind? That's right. I'm crazy. Remember my face. You know when you just get like real rage like. And then I fucking kill the guy.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What'd you do as a kid?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Were you twisting rabbits necks?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What'd you do as a kid?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Were you twisting rabbits necks?

[Dr. Hope Torres]

What'd you do as a kid?

[Christina Pazsitzky]

Were you twisting rabbits necks?

[Tom Segura]

Think you're a fucking shrink right now? Don't go there when you're talking to a sick person.

[Christina Pazsitzky]

I'll really piss him off and then he'll let it. Let me have it. And I know that you. You suspect that my husband is a psycho.

[Dr. Hope Torres]

He's a functioning psychopath.

[Tom Segura]

I pick someone and I go follow you. Get to know their habits. When I go to work. Evil exists. Something's really wrong with me. Verbal tics. Something's really wrong with me. Verbal tics. Something's really wrong with me. Verbal tics. Something's really wrong with me. Verbal tics. Sup K? Stop Champ? Bye. I've been out here for a minute. I like how I was. Screaming is like physically makes me laugh. Screaming is like physically makes me laugh. Screaming is like physical makes me laugh. You're about to get murdered. Screaming is like it makes me laugh. Screaming is like it makes me laugh. Screaming is like it makes me laugh. No, just look at the psycho. Look at your face. The screaming is like it makes me laugh. The screaming is like just. It makes me want it. Screaming is like this. It makes me laugh. Do you know what kind of a psychopath I look like? Screaming is like this. It makes me laugh. Screaming is like this. That makes me want it. Screaming is like this. That makes me laugh. Sa.