Mentalist Oz Pearlman Blows Our Minds | Your Mom's House Ep. 833

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Your Mom's House Ep. 833

"Mentalist Oz Pearlman Blows Our Minds"

Released: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Tom Segura and Christina Pazsitzky ("Christina P.")
Guest: Oz Pearlman, renowned mentalist

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Episode Overview

In this mind-bending and laugh-filled episode, Tom and Christina invite Oz Pearlman into the studio, a mentalist famous for his jaw-dropping feats of mind reading, psychological magic, and sharp wit. The episode is packed with classic YMH banter, raunchy humor, and explores cultural attitudes toward magic and mentalism. Oz astounds the hosts and their crew with a series of impossible-to-explain demonstrations, all while offering genuine life advice on confidence, reading people, and being memorable—themes also explored in his new book, Read Your Mind.

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Main Themes

• Cultural Reactions to Magic and Mentalism
• Pickup Artist Culture vs. Real Human Connection
• How Mentalists Actually Do What They Do
• Performing Under Pressure & Strategies for Standing Out
• Confidence, Memory, Observation as Everyday “Superpowers”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking Down Mentalism and Magic (00:00–40:30)

• The opening segments are a blend of classic YMH irreverence: offbeat clips, jokes about cultural perceptions of magic (especially in Black communities), and Christina and Tom’s playful bickering.
• They discuss:
  • Why some people are skeptical or even frightened by magic/mentalism, relating it to broader cultural narratives about "white" vs. "Black" magic.
    • “Black people and magic tricks don’t go well together. But it’s always fun, because you always know you’re going to get somebody to stand up, turn around, scream, throw their hands in the air…” – Tom (01:27)
  • The difference between magicians/mentalists and “professional liars,” and how all performance is a form of manipulation (acting, music, mentalism).

2. Pickup Artist Culture & Social Skills Commentary (23:30–37:14)

• Deep dive into 2000s pickup artist "Mystery" and dating strategy.
  • Christina describes “negging” and “peacocking”—using negative comments and flashy attire to spark attraction.
  • They critically examine whether these tactics actually work and on whom, emphasizing that true confidence and detachment are more attractive than manipulation.
    • “All these strats, man, that's stupid. The key is… just be cool with yourself as a man. That's all you need.” – E (Any), the producer (34:11)
• Oz weighs in: many tactics overlap with his own approach to reading people and establishing rapport, but using them for authentic connection rather than pick-up artistry.

3. Oz Pearlman on His Mentalism: What’s Real? (40:30–1:28:30)

• Oz’s Background & Book
  • Oz shares his origins: from working finance to hustling magic tricks in restaurants as a teen, job advice from his immigrant mom, and the process of writing Read Your Mind (“years in the making”).
  • He makes clear: his book teaches real-world skills (observation, memory, persuasion), not just tricks or “how to be a mentalist.”

Notable Quotes:

• “The skills surrounding knowing how to read people, to walk into a room and captivate people… to win them over… All these are skills that elevate you.” — Oz (41:19)

• “Your memory can be your superpower. Most people don’t realize that.” – Oz (41:36)

• The “Tricks” Begin

  • Oz reads Tom’s mind about his first childhood crush (“Andrea”) through rapid-fire deduction, observation, and psychological cues.
    • “Tom needed some time with it… He needed to sit on it. It wasn't instant. Yeah… It was six letters, wasn't it?” — Oz (45:10)
    • “What was your first crush?” – Oz
      “Andrea.” – Tom (46:27)
  • He nails producer Ryan’s secret (Omri, paint on a beach)—something no one else possibly could have known.
  • Repeatedly insists it’s less about psychic power, and more about “controlling perception, reading micro-expressions, and being the director of my own movie.”
    • “That’s why my skills don’t generalize. If you watch what I do, the obvious question is: Why don’t you just go to the poker table? …Because I control the procedure.” – Oz (42:14)

Cultural Reactions to Magic

• The hosts and crew tease each other about getting “Black” when magic gets too real (“Now I feel like I’m a black person…I’m getting it, Any.” – Christina, 77:16) and joke about being “canceled” for it.
• Continuous banter about witchcraft, skepticism, and crossing lines (“You’re a sorcerer. This is witchcraft.” – Christina, 54:29).

4. Tips on Confidence, Reading People, and Networking (1:28:30–1:17:45)

• “Real Life Mentalism” Skills

  • Confidence is a muscle; the longer you hesitate to approach, the harder it gets—act quickly.
  • Don’t approach people head on; use a “one foot in, one foot out” angle for less intimidation.
  • Never open with yes/no questions; instead, use statements (“I’ve only got a minute, it’s your lucky night!”).

• Applying Mentalism to Networking and Life

  • Reverse social dynamics so people sell themselves to you.
  • Be genuinely interested—everyone wants to feel interesting.
    • “The more you can make it about the other person, that can be your superpower… Be interested in them, and that makes you more interesting.” – Oz (61:58)
  • Listen actively—most people don’t.

• Memorability above All

  • Oz’s goal at every show/event is not just to fool or entertain, but to be remembered: “I want you to tell this story the way Ryan will in 3, 5, 10 years…” (69:06)

5. Iconic Mentalist Demonstrations (Selected Timestamps)

• Tom’s Childhood Crush (43:15–46:30)
• Ryan’s Impossible Secret (47:50–54:30)
• Christina’s Babysitter & “Best Burper” Exercise (74:05–80:10)
• Any (Producer) Picks a Random Celebrity, Oz Nails “Kurt Cobain” Instantly (82:31–83:18)
• $1 Bill Serial Number and Date of Birth Finale (84:35–87:55)
  • Oz correctly matches the serial number on a random $1 bill to a date of birth thought of by another staff member—live, with no possible way of knowing in advance.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “You’re the devil, dog. Let that [go], man.” — E (Any), after Oz divines “Kurt Cobain” (83:11)
• “[Oz] shattered my worldview, and I don’t even know what to do with myself right now.” – Tom (90:54)
• “Your phone is your platform. Where 20 years ago, good luck getting the message out—now, there’s no excuse.” – Oz (73:00)
• “Your memory can be your superpower. Most people don’t realize that.” – Oz (41:36)
• “I want you to tell this story the way Ryan will in three, five, ten years. Man, I saw this mentalist… let me tell you.” – Oz (69:06)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–10:10 — Opening clips, regional accents, and YMH-style humor
• 23:30–37:14 — Pickup artist “Mystery,” negging/peacocking, social confidence
• 40:30–50:00 — Oz Pearlman joins, early career, his approach to mentalism
• 43:15–46:30 — Reading Tom’s first childhood crush
• 47:50–54:30 — Unveiling Ryan’s impossible secret (Omri, paint on a beach)
• 57:38–61:58 — Social confidence, networking, conversation hacks
• 74:05–80:10 — Christina’s babysitter and best burper, language/cultural perceptions of magic
• 82:31–83:18 — Any’s random celebrity pick (Kurt Cobain) nailed instantly
• 84:35–87:55 — Serial number/birth date match finale
• 87:58–90:54 — Closing: Reflections on the experience, book info

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a tour de force of comedy, applied psychology, and mind-blowing feats of “impossible” mentalism. Tom, Christina, and the crew oscillate between skepticism, awe, and gut-busting laughter as Oz unmasks elements of his craft, argues for real-world application over “tricks,” and leaves everyone genuinely shaken. The message: the secrets of mentalism are also everyday skills anyone—yes, even “cool guys”—can use to read, connect, and stand out.

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Guest Plugs:

• Read Your Mind by Oz Pearlman — Available everywhere books are sold [1:39:56, 1:43:41]
• More info: [Oz Pearlman’s website/socials] (not stated in transcript)

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Original YMH energy, Christina and Tom’s wild humor, and mind-bending modern magic—all in one unmissable episode.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Well, welcome.

[A]

Welcome to your mom's house.

[B]

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[A]

What a day to do that and thank you very much. Here we are. Welcome to your mom's house. Very excited for today's episode. Got some real pizzazz going on here today. Yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun.

[C]

Yeah, we'll see what happens when any is confronted with it all.

[A]

That kind don't like the other kind. You know what I mean?

[B]

So.

[D]

So.

[C]

They don't.

[A]

This kind and the other kind, they don't go well together.

[C]

No. Historically, oil and water.

[A]

Yeah. Black people and. And magic tricks don't go well together. But it's always fun because you always know you're going to get a someone to stand up, turn around, scream, throw their hands in the air and say this. It's always fun. I really enjoy it.

[C]

They don't like it. They think it's any. Well, let me ask you. Do you think it's witchcraft?

[A]

Why is that cultural. Why is that a cultural thing?

[E]

I mean, it's probably not, but I mean it is.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Why?

[E]

I don't. Well, I guess it, you know, to speak for myself. Let me mute the voice of God real quick. Speak for myself? Yeah, you know, it's the devil.

[A]

It's the devil. There you go.

[C]

He's behind everything fun.

[E]

It's because the real magic, you know, we got the voodoo and the hoodoo. Like we be doing that. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

You're just a liar. Wait, he's got a good point. Like black Bahamians do voodoo. Why is voodoo acceptable? Cuz you guys are in control of that magic. Is this because it's the white man's magic?

[E]

No, it's because that shit's real.

[A]

Yeah, that really is. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

It's not easy.

[A]

Y. Yeah.

[C]

Magic is not me. Mentalism it's not easy.

[A]

Not easy.

[E]

You just. You a professional liar.

[C]

Like, wait, wait, hold on. But so is acting. Actors are professional liars. Do you hate all actings?

[E]

I don't know if that's a.

[D]

That's.

[A]

Yeah, they're lying.

[C]

They're professional liars.

[A]

They're pretending.

[E]

Yeah, you're pretending. But it's like the. The goal isn't to trick you, though.

[C]

Yes, it is. And to evoke feelings. Tom's a professional.

[A]

They manipulate you. Manipulation. Yeah.

[E]

I don't think so, because then you're saying that musicians are liars, too, because they just be. You know, they be manipulating you to be feeling things. But I don't.

[A]

Mentalists and magicians, specifically, they. They just.

[C]

Satan.

[E]

It's like, okay, if I take a wallet out your pocket, it's.

[A]

It's theft.

[E]

I go to jail. If you do it, it's magic.

[A]

You like, ass.

[E]

Cheating ass. Th. Ass professional.

[C]

He's not going to like today's episode at all, man.

[E]

No, man, let me tell you. My pockets are empty.

[A]

All right?

[E]

Ain't nothing to take y.

[A]

So they're going. They're going in there with it, man.

[F]

We going to keep the out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, I cannot wait.

[C]

Oh, me too, now.

[A]

Hell no.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Are you going to do all that? Any. Are you going to. Are you going to. Oh, hell no.

[E]

I mean, it depends.

[A]

We'll see what the.

[E]

We'll see what lines he crosses. We'll see.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Boy, that's the longest one ever.

[C]

But Annie doesn't any. Do you talk during movies?

[E]

Of course. Don't nod your head. I could speak for my day. Yes, I do.

[A]

Do you suck your teeth with a toothpick in, like, what?

[E]

That's a black thing.

[C]

That's a black guy. That's an old black guy that.

[E]

I mean, I do be liking toothpicks.

[A]

I don't know why you going in there right now. Why are you going in there?

[C]

Bernie Mac was doing that.

[A]

Why is Tony John crooked? Is that a deliberate choice?

[C]

Oh, Satan.

[A]

Did Satan do that? Yep.

[E]

You see, this is what happens. You play with Jesus.

[A]

Yep. All right.

[C]

Talking about stuff.

[E]

I'm a man of God.

[A]

All right. You want to see this opener?

[C]

Of course.

[A]

Let's get into it. Let's get into this show. It's going to be a lot of fun today. Hold on, now. Hold your soul horses. Here we go. Here you go.

[B]

I pull up around here.

[D]

I'll catch y'.

[B]

All. I will get y', all, man. Get all that there, there, there, there. Stuff in the under there, Pop. Y' all going fishing? We going fishing.

[A]

Going fishing. Yeah.

[B]

Got a boat?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

We got four, five of them. Don't bring anyone. Mother into this.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Well, welcome. Welcome to your mom's house with Tom.

[C]

Segura, Mom, Sagura and Christina.

[A]

Welcome to your mom's house.

[C]

Look at these tits.

[A]

Nice. Very.

[C]

Welcome. Looking good today. Meow. Meow.

[A]

You know what's crazy about this clip? Like, the thing. Obviously, it stands out that, you know, the way he speaks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you go, this guy's made it to, like, whatever. He is 60 something, and he owns a vehicle with a bunch of wires. And he's. Yeah, but he's like. He's survived.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

With that level of communication.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[A]

It's pretty wild.

[C]

It is pretty wild. And I also think this video was taken a block away from this studio. Don't you feel like it could be. Yeah, it's very Texan.

[A]

Like, it's very. Yeah. Very possible. This could be in a lot of places. This could be in Georgia, Bama, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Tennessee. Like, I don't know where it was. Maybe we have it here. Let's see. Oh, the comments believe this is either Tennessee or Oklahoma.

[C]

Deep.

[A]

We have a translation?

[C]

No. Why?

[A]

Most liked and agreed upon this translation. You want to hear it again?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, here. This is what we got pulled up around here.

[D]

And I'll catch y'.

[B]

All. I will get y'.

[D]

All.

[C]

Okay. Don't pull around here and go and get your ass whooped.

[A]

It ain't nothing for me to whoop a man.

[C]

No. You know he's joking, though, right?

[A]

Like, yeah, he's joking. Friends. Yeah, yeah. And then the beard guy speaks next.

[C]

No clip.

[A]

He says, you do all that. There, there, there. Stop that yelling as I pull past you and you acting crazy.

[E]

Oh, man, that's not what I heard.

[C]

What did you.

[E]

I heard something else.

[A]

What you hear?

[E]

Well, play it again.

[B]

All that stuff in the patching, there's.

[A]

Definitely some hard Rs, if that's what you're saying. Okay. That's what you were hearing.

[C]

You heard hard rs.

[E]

That's what I heard. You know, in that accent.

[A]

I've heard that, but what do you. What did you have an actual sentence? Like, do you think he said something?

[E]

I thought he just said, you know. I thought he just said, you know, oh, all that. You know, I'm like, oh, okay.

[B]

All that under there.

[C]

Under there.

[F]

Y' all going fishing?

[C]

Y' all going fishing?

[B]

Going fishing?

[A]

You going fishing?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Got a boat yeah, there he is. We got four, five of them.

[A]

He said. So then the guy says, you got. Y' all going. We going fishing. He goes, we going fishing. And then he says something at the end. They're like, we got. Yeah, yeah. Was it. You got a boat?

[C]

Y' all got a boat?

[E]

Oh, apparently he said, oh, you got a pole?

[A]

Oh, yeah. And then the guy goes, we got four or five of them. That makes sense.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, you got pole. We got four or five of them. Let's see if the Mentalist can solve this.

[C]

Could you imagine, though, having to fish next to this guy and he's like.

[A]

Well, the whole time I'd be like, what? Yeah. What'd you say?

[C]

Who do you think's harder to understand? This guy or the Killarney drunk?

[A]

Killarney.

[C]

Killarney, right.

[A]

Killarney to us. To our ears.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think maybe an Irish person would. Would choose. This is. This is bananas, though. This guy's.

[C]

This is our Killarney guy.

[A]

Yeah, he is.

[C]

He's the Killarney of the South.

[A]

He's probably like 30 years younger than Killarney guy, too. I feel like Killarney guy is, like, 90.

[B]

Okay, okay, yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

71 gone.

[C]

I don't know, though.

[A]

That's an Irish guy.

[C]

But here's the deal, man. This guy is speaking our same dialect, right? And I still can't understand this hillbilly guy.

[A]

Hold on. So you can go back to back here.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

Yo, a podcast with both of them.

[A]

You gonna visit?

[B]

We got Pope. Okay.

[C]

What do you think this is just drinking too much? Oh, hold on.

[A]

Oh, I don't know.

[C]

Is it alcohol and no teeth?

[A]

Yeah. That's a good combo, right? I mean, Clarney guy is never more than a few moments without alcohol in his system. You realize it's like 50 years of 25 pints a day. This guy has not known a sober feeling. Yeah, and it's decades.

[C]

Probably beer, too. Like, of course. It is just so dense.

[A]

Maybe Irish whiskey, too, but lots of beer. Yeah.

[B]

Here. This guy is here in Clarney because we've been invited by a very special character. I hear he's a local legend and his name is Sham.

[A]

He's got a pint. How are you?

[B]

We're here in Killarney today.

[A]

Are you from Killarney?

[B]

Born and bred. What do you think? Makes it a great town. Yeah, Lots of tourists around.

[A]

It's great.

[B]

Isn't it great? Give the dog away.

[A]

Give your dog away? Is that what he said? Great. Give your dog away, Right? Give your dog away. Okay.

[C]

This sweet little Soul.

[B]

He's a sweet man. My bad is.

[A]

I sat next to this guy. I would be like, oh, I don't speak Lithuanian, so I don't.

[C]

Sorry. God.

[B]

Tell me if you think this is a good idea or not. We're gonna go with a Jarvi German. Good idea.

[A]

Greg, Noah.

[F]

Greg and Noah Farmer.

[A]

You're a farmer. Trevor, Noah, Greg and Noah.

[C]

Talking about South African comedy.

[A]

South African comedians. I'm a big fan of South African comedy.

[B]

And is this your regular spot?

[A]

We're in a Connor's bar. Look at his face. Okay.

[B]

I moved around. He moved around a lot. I mean.

[C]

I tell you, this is my nightmare.

[A]

Somebody messaged also recently that they're like, oh, yeah, he's alive.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

There was a report that he. Someone said he died. And we're like, yeah, of course. And then they're like, no, no, he's not dead.

[C]

We've been emailed, people that have taken pilgrimage just. Just to visit this guy. And guess what? He'll be at the pub when you show.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. You. You don't have to be like, will he be in today? They're like, yeah, he opens and closes. It's fine. Is where is.

[C]

He's a rope driver.

[A]

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[C]

It's in Ireland.

[A]

Yeah, of course. But I want to know how far is it from like Dublin? It's way out there.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Where is Killarney? It's right next to the park. Oh boy. Fuck yeah. That is nowhere.

[A]

Oh, there's Dublin. Okay. Up in the right corner.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Oh yeah. So that's. Yeah, that's a good. How long is that track though? I can't really tell because.

[C]

So if you're going to Ireland, you go to Dublin and then you head on over to Killarney.

[A]

Three hour and 47 minute drive. It's a good long drive.

[C]

It's worth it to have a pint with that guy.

[A]

Train in three hours. Yeah, that's worth it. That would be.

[C]

So we should do a YMH pilgrimage.

[A]

Company pilgrimage. We're going to Killarney just to visit. And then we just got there and he's just like. And he throws up and we're like, okay, that was cool.

[C]

But can't you see yourself becoming that guy? I think. What?

[A]

Oh, no, not at all. You totally can. What?

[C]

Me? Not you.

[A]

How?

[C]

I just think like, like you know how it is. Like we're aging and there's so many things you do just to slow that process down and to stay on top of it. But I could see myself just giving up.

[A]

Oh, giving up. I see.

[C]

And being like, I don't need to go to a dentist. I can just drink beer all day day. I can just gain weight. Who cares? Like if you Die tomorrow. Like, I'm not, I'm not remarrying. Like this is going to go to. This is done. I don't care.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know, I'm going to be honest. I know this is not very, you know, PC or whatever, but I, I maintain this, like, mostly for your gaze. For you. So that you don't go like, my wife is a pig and she's disgusting. I don't want to have sex with her anymore.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Like, you know, I do it for me, obvi, but also because I have an obligation to my husband.

[A]

It's very sweet of you. Yes. You're doing a great job, by the way.

[C]

Thank you. So are you.

[A]

You don't look anything like the Killarney guy.

[C]

But I could become him.

[A]

You could become him. Well, just remember, like, wait till they get out of the house though, Right? Let's say I die tomorrow, just raise my kids, try to stay, and then like the moment they leave, go back.

[C]

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[A]

Wow.

[C]

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[A]

Those are real. It's a real attention getting look.

[C]

Like it's. Thank you. Can I tell you why I like makeup? That's for the girls. I think we have enough makeup out there. That's to get the male.

[A]

You don't think that's for the male gays?

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

It depends on the, on the right types. Yeah. Like you. Yeah, it's the right kind of dude. This ain't no. This ain't no. This ain't no Normie Cosmetics.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? I see that lipstick and I go, this is a nasty girl.

[C]

That's what I like. Yeah, I'm daring.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

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[A]

You know, I bet would love this lipstick. Who, hey, who wants to go to Biloxi tonight and walk the beach, see.

[B]

If there's any hotties out there? Oh, let me know. We'll make a daytime drive. Let me know.

[C]

Okay, I'll let you know. But he wants to go with another guy to look for hotties.

[A]

Yeah, but I think he would have responded to that lipstick.

[C]

You think if I was like, I'll go with you.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

Yeah. What's that? A frying pan under his head? What is that?

[A]

That's a cast iron skillet.

[C]

What an interesting background choice.

[A]

It is interesting. It almost makes me wonder if.

[C]

How is he.

[A]

The cast iron's on the floor, but that also looks like insulation. That is between sheetrocks.

[C]

Yes, yes, yes. Insulation.

[A]

Not to mention the very unique build that this man has.

[C]

Well, we were. I wasn't gonna even go.

[A]

And it kind of reminds me, you know, I've been training a lot more. I'm neglecting my neck. I need to do more neck. There's. I have this thing called the iron neck. You put it like. It's like a halo.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It goes around your head and then you can do like neck.

[C]

You know, that's what he does. That's how he has such a thick neck.

[A]

Oh, for sure. Yeah, he's definitely in there. Yeah. So, yeah, we don't have to promote them, but that's fine.

[C]

That's really cool. So he just needs to tone down the neck work, get back or.

[A]

Or. Or ramp it up. Let's see how big it can get. Why not? You know, if you're strong, you're strong.

[C]

Did he. What's. So the skillet hanging is really perplexing again.

[A]

Is it hanging or is he like sitting? Is he like this?

[C]

You know, I know it's hard to tell. Okay. I'll tell you why he's not laying. Because the face meat would be more gravity on the face.

[A]

Huh. It looks pretty gravity heavy here. Yeah.

[C]

I don't know. Yeah, it's funny. We've lately these videos of cool guys. They have an aversion to finishing the walls in their living environment. Remember that last guy just had like.

[A]

All he has to do is. By the way, all he needs is the. You just need to close the wall now. Like you've insulated it, which is great.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

For the cold.

[C]

You need it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Sound heat. Maybe even too. Yeah. But then you're like, oh, I forgot to cover it up.

[C]

I know.

[A]

But whatever. A nice walk on a Biloxi beach looking at hotties might solve that problem.

[C]

That's true. This is why men need women. We make women's pretty.

[A]

Yeah, they sure do. Us and men are cool. That's one of the things that we've discovered doing this show. Dudes are always cool. You know, like here's pretty cool thing.

[F]

You are like, what the hell think. But why did you say that to me?

[A]

I am so sorry.

[F]

You in the store and I'm asking you for a charger. And instead of asking me that. But why would you ask me was my coochie wig? Oh, but why did you say that to me? So now you didn't say it to me. So you didn't say that?

[A]

No, I did not. So I will get you.

[D]

I will.

[F]

This, man. I'm at Walgreens and I spill water on myself.

[A]

Yes, sir.

[F]

And your disrespectful ass. Excuse me, sir. Your disrespectful ass gonna ask me, is my coochie with and guarantee I will send this to corporate because you full of.

[D]

I did not.

[F]

You full of.

[D]

Now do you want to.

[F]

No, I don't want no goddamn charger from you. Go find me another worker. Good day. Go find me another worker with your disrespectful ass.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Chris. Hey, Chris.

[C]

Chris.

[F]

Your co worker asked me, what's my coachy wet? That's what y' all do at Walgreens. Y' all ask women, is they coochie wet. That's me. Apologize for asking me.

[C]

Don't lie.

[F]

Apologize for asking me. Why did you.

[A]

That's a good way to do it.

[C]

Took it the wrong way. Dumb.

[F]

You ought to get your ass beat.

[A]

Yeah, well, you know, took it the wrong way in the beginning. He was like, I apologize. Before she turned the camera. He's like, I apologize. That is also a bold move. Like, can I get a charger? It's like, what's up with that pussy right now?

[C]

Yeah. I was like, is that coochie wet because she spilled water on herself?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He was trying to, like, segue into it.

[A]

I see a water spill.

[C]

Speaking of wet things, did it drip.

[A]

Down to your pussy by chance?

[C]

Yeah. He's like, is it just me like, you're hanging out here at Walgreens or.

[A]

Walmart, but also, like, lady, doesn't it feel good to be flirted with?

[C]

Seriously? This fucking bitch. So uptight guy.

[A]

Can't ask you a simple question without you getting all fired up and sent it to corporate. Oh, my feelings are hurt. This guy asked me if my pussy was wet.

[C]

I will say the. The blessing in the sk. About the. The cameras is that now, like, women can stand up to these. It's so nice. Because seriously, you do get. I mean, people say crazy things to you, like, all the time.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

It's good.

[A]

You can actually record it.

[C]

You're like, dude, what are you. What are you doing to me?

[A]

What are you doing talking about my right now?

[C]

Why are you doing this?

[A]

Especially because you know that like when you. When you want a charger, you know, you're not having the best day.

[C]

No.

[A]

Your battery's low. Maybe phone's dead or about to die. I know stress. And then you're going to be, like, trying to wet, like, no, I want to get my charger, man.

[C]

And not only that, like, she is younger and more. Way more attractive than him. He's old.

[A]

Is he old?

[C]

Yeah. He's not in her league. It's so offensive.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I just think, like, you know what he could use probably some time.

[C]

With Mystery, like I was gonna say.

[A]

So Mystery is back, if you guys don't know. Years ago, there was a reality show. I think it was on VH1.

[C]

Of course it was on the VH1 had the golden.

[A]

They had a real good run. And Mystery was. Is a pickup artist. And that was his name. And the whole idea behind a name like that. I remember this from the show. Was that if he would say his name, you as a. He's a pickup artist. So the whole idea is you say you give yourself a name like that, and then that prompts questions. So if you introduce yourself to somebody as Mystery, they're going to be like, your name is Mystery. And then you just go from there. It was like, step one. So then he kind of faded out. Right.

[C]

Hold on. But you forgot step two. The most important part of Mystery's whole thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's not Mr. E, by the way. Which one of our younger staffers who never saw the show. Not her fault. It's not Mr. E. No, it's Mystery.

[A]

Like a mystery novel.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Mystery. Another thing he was really adamant about was peacocking.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And that meant have some flair. Flair. So he would wear, like, a feather hat, a feather boa, or, like, goggles, like, crazy attire. Sand dune goggle.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Burning man stuff. And then that gives you. That makes you stand out of the pack. And then women go, oh, I love your hat, or I love your scarf. And then it gets you into conversation.

[A]

Right. So both of those are prompting questions.

[C]

And negative. That was huge.

[A]

Right.

[C]

He would go up to the woman, and then you have to put them down.

[A]

It's a very.

[C]

A good system.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, well, you know, you'd be a lot better if you pulled your hair up.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

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[C]

But on the right. Damaged girl.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You're gonna get late.

[A]

You're gonna close. Close. Thing is about him is that there was like he was a, you know, people knew about it, the show was popular, everybody kind of. And I feel like it was kind of pre social media. It feels like it was a while ago, right?

[C]

Like when we got married. This show was on like 0809.

[A]

Long time ago. Okay. So we have a couple of his.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Here.

[C]

I missed him so much.

[A]

Well, I totally like, like, like you just kind of forgot about him. And then I was scrolling recently and I was like, no, he's back. He's back and he's offering seminars. So Walgreens guy, no neck. You know, whomever, cool guys, all the cool guys could maybe learn, here's like, kind of the stuff that he does. Just if you want to know more about mystery.

[D]

So you want girls chasing you? You want to be the big man and have girls chasing you? Well, you got to open two sets and merge them.

[B]

Right.

[D]

If I go after this one set, I have no social proof. It's hard.

[A]

If I work this one set, I.

[D]

Have no social proof. It's hard. But if I meet her and say, let me introduce you to some new friends I've met and introduced her to this girl that I've just met that night and merge the two together, they get to meet each other and they get to fight for me. You want girls fighting for you? How can you unless you logistically handle two separate sets merging together?

[A]

Now, I gotta say, that's not bad math, man.

[C]

Well, so Mysteries now had another 20.

[A]

Years too, of perfecting his craft.

[C]

Yeah. And this guy is spot on. And look, he's still got his flair. He's got some quirks in his ears. He's got the labret piercing. He's got some wacky little hair on his chin.

[A]

And it's fair to say, look, Mo, like most socially adept people, I don't think they think this way. Right? No, but he is. After he's guiding you solely for the. The idea of picking up women. So if you're in a club and he's like, you meet this girl and you meet this other girl, what he's. What he's advocating for here is you introduce them. So you'll use my friend Sarah. This is my friend Elizabeth. And then they're both like, oh, like, oh, yeah, I like him. I like him. You're creating, like, a little almost game.

[C]

Of course. Because, you know, it's the most attractive thing to a woman is when the.

[A]

Guy'S already taken guys taken. Or you or.

[B]

And.

[A]

And when you see another woman eyeing this guy. Yep. Right.

[C]

Like, it's creating so many. I'm telling you, women to look to their friends to approve of their choices. In men. Yes, we do. We go, do you think so? And so is this and that. Yeah. Okay, good. Like, they. We need social approval.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Otherwise, relationship's going to be really hard for you to carry on if your.

[A]

Friends are like, this guy's horrible.

[C]

Yes. But if the tribe approves and he's right, you get two broads that are on to you.

[A]

Yeah. Here's another one of his.

[D]

A1 open. A2, demonstrate higher value neg to primer to want to qualify. A3 qualify her and then move her into a sit down situation where you can then build comfort with her and see one that happens over and over and over and over again. And every set is different because people are different. Your material may be the same, but the sequence that you run them will be different. The reactions to your gambits will always be different. So it always feels new.

[A]

And I feel like you could do something like this. What do you feel like his. Do you like his advice? You think it's worthwhile at all?

[C]

I'm still stuck on a one and a two.

[A]

Yeah, he's moving to C1 Seminars. He's teaching seminars.

[C]

He is brilliant now. It's. It's so masterful now at this point.

[A]

Really good.

[C]

I've like, I completely blacked out. Played again. Play it again because I have to hear the con. I was A one open.

[D]

A two. Demonstrate higher value neg to primer to want to qualify A three qualify her and then move her into a sit down situation where you can then build comfort with her and see what that happens over and over and over and over again. And every set is different because people are different. Your material may be the same, but the sequence that you run them will be.

[C]

I see what you're saying.

[D]

The reactions to your gambits will always be different. So it always feels new.

[C]

He wants to demonstrate that he is of a higher value, a higher caliber than anyone else in the room.

[A]

Isolate her. Right. You get her sit down.

[C]

But she has to feel like she's won some great prize by talking to you. Yeah, that's the secret. And that's the nagging bit. If you're like, I mean, you're, you're cute, but you're not the prettiest I've seen or whatever it is he's saying. And then she has to go, I'm not the prettiest you've seen. Like, if she falls for that horseshit.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And then she's like, well, I can show you who's a ball. A ball sucker.

[A]

Only time this doesn't work is if it's a woman who's got it together. I was gonna say, like, this won't work on a really confident Secure, you know, put like, if you get the insecure girl, like, this is gonna work.

[C]

It's gonna work. Here's the deal, though. It might work on a secure girl if you don't come with the labret and the black nail polish. Let's say you're like a Wall street douchebag type type stock broker guy, and you're in the suit and you're looking good and you're handsome. You could put the girl down and then have.

[A]

Yeah, sure.

[C]

You could do that.

[A]

Your whole aesthetic for how you do this can vary. You don't have to be right with things like.

[C]

But. But as a. As a woman who's not completely, like. I wouldn't fall for this just because of the aesthetic. I'd be like, this guy's a little too. This guy.

[A]

But the right aesthetic could get you.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

I think so.

[C]

I'm a genuine kind of gal. You know why I liked you? I'll tell you what always got me a guy who looked put together. His outfit wasn't completely unhinged or messy or dirty. Hygiene. Does he smell nice? Does he look clean?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And also, not too eager.

[A]

Oh, right.

[C]

I think overeager is such a shrinker. It's such a dryer. You're like. I don't.

[A]

Trying too hard.

[C]

Trying too hard. And you were always very aloof and mysterious, like Jackie Onassis.

[A]

Mystery. Yeah, that's what. That was the name I was going to use until I found out he was using it.

[C]

Fucking. Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. All right.

[A]

But any. What do you think I'm curious about this mentalist. No, no. About this guy.

[B]

No.

[E]

Yeah, the mentalist. Yeah. He's another professional liar.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I mean, you know, I'm sure it works, you know, if you look like that. You got to have some sort of crazy strategy.

[B]

But.

[E]

Yeah. I think the key. You kind of just said it's disinterest. Disinterest is the move. There's really, you know, be cool with yourself as a man. That's all you need. All these strats, man. That's stupid.

[C]

I think this not. Yeah. Disintegrator or detachment.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Just like, listen, like, I'm doing my own.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, you could be here. You cannot.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't care either way.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But here's the deal.

[E]

I got me. So.

[C]

But any. You have to be an attractive man to have that.

[E]

Yeah, well.

[C]

And Tom is attractive. You're attractive. Like, we're all attractive. I think you got to be cute to do that shit. But he's. Yeah. Like you say, though, he's for like, boys who are a little less.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Fair.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah, I guess so.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Why you bad to say? Why?

[A]

Why?

[C]

Why? Why what?

[A]

Why.

[E]

Why are you hunting that deep? It's not. What do you think you're even going to get? Like you said, you're only going to get broken bitches. Yeah.

[A]

But you understand too that the person. The guys that are really signing up for this broken.

[C]

My dad.

[A]

No, he's right.

[C]

My dad does the same shit to women.

[A]

But the guys that are. That are like, sincerely following hearts, well, they're guys that are not getting chicks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So for them, it's a revelation.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Right. They're like, whatever I'm doing isn't working.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, whatever it is. So you are looking for a new. You're like, I'm not having any success.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

So can you help me have success.

[C]

And it'll build your confidence once you've had success with women, and then you'll learn your way of getting women.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You don't have to probably use his technique forever and ever. Yeah, but you need confidence. That's big with. With chicks.

[A]

Yeah, but it's hard to manufacture confidence, right?

[C]

Sure is.

[A]

That's why this guy's like, you know, learn these tactics. Maybe that'll give you confidence. I know ultimately they're all kind of going for the same goal, just different tactics, you know?

[C]

I know. And I'm curious to see how mystery has adapted to the social media age, the app's age, and to now women being like, don't talk to me in public. Because I think now it's considered. No, it's true. There's like, I'm. I think to come up to a girl and talk to her now is a little more like, whoa. Right. That's the impression I'm getting.

[A]

Well, I guess the thing is less people engage in real life socially than 30 years ago because everything's on your phone. So, you know, less people are like, hi. Like, they just don't do that.

[C]

Well, that's why now mystery might be more valuable than ever.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Because if a guy has the cojones now to like, just talk to you. Talk to me.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

You're probably like, oh, my gosh, this guy is really.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Something, you know.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[C]

Oh, there he is.

[A]

That's how we learned. That's how we discovered him. With that look.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With his big dumb hat.

[C]

Yeah. And the goggles.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Burning man goggles.

[A]

But that worked.

[C]

It worked. Dude.

[A]

You had the. You had the year down perfectly. It was 0708 because I remember we were watching this.

[C]

We just got married. We loved him. We were so into this guy's show. It really is.

[A]

What's up?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. And we are back.

[B]

Where am I? Am I at your mom's house?

[A]

All right, your mom's house.

[B]

Is this for real?

[A]

This is for real. Thank you for coming in.

[B]

I was gonna fanboy when I met Tom earlier because I have watched one of his specials so many times that I have absorbed it within my skin.

[C]

Which one?

[B]

Completely normal. The hotel's bit because it hits home about. I don't travel just like you one nighters. So I don't get upgraded. I don't buy first class. I get upgraded. The part where you said, I will put my hand on your chest, bro, if you try to piss in the front.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, I will watch that. And I will laugh just as hard the first time as the hundredth time. Well, we're always genius, my friend.

[A]

No, that's very. That's very nice of you. We're always wondering where is the flight attendant telling the regulars to like, it's okay, like, no, close the curtain and send them back. What are we doing here?

[B]

Whatever pig trough you got back there.

[C]

But some of those animals will bypass the curtain. Yes, I've seen them. And then they'll still slither up fast track in.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[C]

It's wrong.

[A]

It's the fucking balls.

[B]

You know, I gotta tell you, this is unpopular opinion, but me as a. I like to say my wife will say petite. I will say European in build.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[B]

That sounds a little less, you know, kind of hurtful.

[A]

You look great.

[B]

Thank you, thank you.

[C]

By the way, you're a great fit.

[B]

Is that 27F is a seat that is little known if you don't want to take first class, but it's. You have full access at the window. I just ruined. Everyone's gonna take the seat instead of me to the bathroom.

[A]

27F on any on Delta.

[B]

I think it's the airbuses. I don't know enough. I'm not deep cuts enough to know this. Okay, but you have all the same access and better than first class. I don't eat or drink on planes, so maybe that's a thing that if you have to get. Not really.

[C]

Why not drink water even?

[B]

Yeah, I'll drink water, but I quit drinking alcohol last year. Such. I know life of the party would Happen to me. Bert did not like that when I told him that.

[A]

27.

[B]

27F. Look at that. Look at the leg room. You can fully lay down.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And then you don't need. If you're the window in first class and someone's sleeping and snoring next to me. I got to get around them and wake them up. That light guilt trip. The worst where I'm like, oh, hard hit. Let me out of here. I have access to the bathroom.

[C]

Is this the emergency exit Road.

[B]

Emergency exit. I'll save you, Christina P. I'll save you, Tom, if shit goes down.

[A]

Yeah, I believe you.

[B]

I'm a good guy.

[A]

I really have a lot. So I. I drink water and coffee all, you know, all day.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And on flights, man, when I get the window, I immediately get anxiety of like, I'm gonna have to ask this person to stand up six times.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That's why I love the aisle because you just get up as you choose. That's.

[B]

You tell them I'm pregnant right now. This is totally acceptable.

[A]

Yeah. It's really crazy. Wait. I want to get this out of the way so people don't forget that we can pre order your book. Read your mind right now.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Assuming it's all the places you can.

[B]

Everywhere. Everywhere. Yes. It's just like a labor of love. This is years in the making. God, how hard is it to write a book? I know you have.

[A]

I wrote a book. It was a big.

[B]

To do much more.

[A]

Can I ask you because I know, like, I think people. If you don't know, you know, you're. You're a mentalist. You know, we see that you are able to almost like solve these puzzles that people are blown away by. But you worked in finance before, so. But to make that pivot to change. Were you already very into the like. This is not something that you're like, I'll just try to do this later. Like, you already into it. Right.

[B]

It's like hanging out one day on the toilet. Said, you know what? I want to be a mentalist. So I was doing magic. So it's really important to understand because most people don't know what a mentalist is. I'm happy to tell you about the book because I am not going to teach you to be a mentalist in this book because that's almost nobody, like, nobody really wants to be a mentalist. You could learn right now. Google it. You'll figure out some tricks. I think that the key to what I do that's actually useful to people Isn't the tricks. The tricks is kind of the packaging is what's important. The skills surrounding knowing how to read people, how to walk into a room and captivate people, how to be memorable, how to win them over. All of these other little tertiary skills, how to know if people are lying to you, when's the right moment to approach somebody, to influence them. Your boss, your spouse, your best friend. Right. Those are skills that elevate you. Because there are other mentalists in the world that do what I do. What allowed me to kind of jump the line and get to the top of the pack, where I'm doing this on the biggest stages on the world. It has nothing to do with the tricks. Other people do them too. It's these core skills that I want to teach people.

[A]

And the skills are in the book.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

The book is about the skills breaking down.

[B]

Exactly that. I mean, how to supercharge your confidence, how to get rid of fear of rejection. Like all these different. How to have a memory, your story. Like most people's memory, they don't realize. Your memory can be your superpower. It's what I do all the time.

[A]

Clearly your memory is like. I mean, just from having seen some of the things you've done, like, obviously you have a great memory and then you're. I think part of the trick, if I may say so trick, is that your question might seem like a. Oh, this is just something. But you're. You know where your question is going to get you. Like, you're. You're in the information gathering kind of skill set. Right.

[B]

And information planting.

[A]

Planting as well.

[B]

But I'm also the director of my movie, so that's the most important thing, which is I get to point the camera what I want and I get to avoid the things I don't want. So it's really important to understand. That's why my skills don't generalize. Because if you watch what I do, the obvious question is like, yo, man, why don't you just go to the poker table and win a million dollars right now? And if I'm being honest and I can do these things, why couldn't I do that? Because you seem to think that because I'm able to guess a card in a certain context, I could guess it anywhere, and it's not true.

[C]

It's contextual.

[B]

It's contextual because I control the procedure when I'm doing it. Should we give you just a great example? Should we have some fun show and tell?

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

Okay. How long have you been married 30,000 years?

[A]

What is it?

[B]

He's counting the days.

[C]

Oh, wait. We married in 08. What's the matter?

[B]

17 years. Well played. Well played. Met her when she was nine years old. You're a bad boy, Tom.

[A]

Bad boy.

[B]

It's actually gross. So you've known her for that long? Let me ask you a question. Do you remember the name of your first grade teacher?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Have I ever asked you about that before this moment?

[A]

No.

[B]

Do you know the Name of his first grade teacher?

[C]

Of his first grade teacher? No.

[B]

See? So 18 years. She doesn't know that. How would I know that? Are you blown away if I can guess that right now?

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

But think about it. Right now, think about it. All the information I had coming in, information gathering. You literally said it. Your name. What if I looked you up? What if we did a deep dive before I got here? Ran a real in depth, you know, fact check, background check. What if we knew where you grew up? It's in your Wikipedia. Found out where you grew up. Found a yearbook. I could have done it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's creepy, though. That's really creepy. So if I do that, haters are going to look through and they're going to find it themselves. Online sleuthing. There's chatgpt and your first grade teacher. Also knew they were your teacher. They probably brag about you. Tom Segura. You made a big name for yourself. All the other kids in your class probably remember it too. So I want to make this impossible. How about this? Something she won't know, but nobody would know. I'm going to put you on the spot. Close your eyes. Same time period, elementary school. Can you try to picture the face of the first girl you had a big crush on?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Let me ask you a question. Open your eyes. Same way. First grade teacher popped in your head. You knew it really quick too. About the first grade teacher. For not having been asked before your first crush. Before today, when was the last time you had thought of her? Would it have been days, months, or years prior to today?

[A]

Years.

[B]

Years. Think of the first name. Count the letters to yourself. Just yourself. Of the first name.

[A]

Her first name.

[C]

I'm having anxiety watching.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Tom needed some time with it. He needed to sit on it. It wasn't instant. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, I used my fingers to count.

[B]

I was looking for. I was looking for him. I was looking for him.

[C]

You did.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It felt like. It felt like you did on one hand, but you jumped to the other hand. Other hand. You flexed both Biceps.

[C]

I've been working out.

[B]

You've been working out? I can tell the water cleanse. I've been doing my homework. I've been listening to the show. You did the second hand, which means it was long. It's six letters, isn't it?

[A]

It's six letters. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Hangman. Hangman. Six letters.

[C]

I hate this already.

[B]

Sorry, I made that one. I made that one too small.

[A]

Why do you think that all black people react the way baking soda and vinegar do when. An illusion.

[B]

Cultural.

[A]

Yeah, but why?

[B]

I love it.

[A]

I know it's the best.

[B]

I love it. There's. There's different ethnicities. There's different countries that do better. Yeah, British people are very funny. There's extremes. They either hate you or they love you. So that's a tough one.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Scandinavians. Very under. Understated but still impressed.

[A]

And they're just like trying to solve it, basically.

[B]

Some people are Germans as well.

[C]

Why do men hate magic?

[B]

Okay, go ahead. Men love magic. Think of any one of those six letters. Don't tell me which one. Think of one.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You got it?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You didn't do the first letter, did you?

[A]

I did.

[B]

You did. Because you looked over, you glanced and you glanced at me real fast. But then you know what you did? You jumped to the last letter. You dirty dog. Tom. Close your eyes. Tom. You literally gave it up. This was going to be a lot harder. Just so you know.

[C]

He got you, right? Just.

[B]

No, what he did is he gave it away because the same reaction. Close your eyes. Are your eyes closed? No, no. Close your eyes. You can't see a monitor. Okay, can I just turn this around? I don't know which camera show to you, but see, there were the same two letters. Open your eyes. You haven't thought of her in years.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

What was in your first crush?

[A]

Andrea.

[B]

Andrea.

[C]

Any what?

[A]

So, okay, can I say something? I mean, that's very, very impressive. Yeah. Like hearing you be like the hyper. Observation of it is the fascinating thing to me. Right. Like the fact that you like. You saw the. The arm thing and you're like. It's six. Because you jumped arms. And then seeing my eyes dart from.

[C]

First and then, then he has to go through the Rolodex of names that start with the same letter and end in the same letter.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Right. And there's what, a handful of those.

[B]

Maybe Angela too.

[A]

Oh, that could have been.

[C]

And then. That's not.

[B]

She was in seventh grade. Angela.

[A]

Now what made what now that's the part that is that the part that's the role, the dice, where you're like, is it Angela or.

[B]

No, no, cuz Angela.

[A]

Oh, too many letters. Yes.

[C]

So it's six. Six spaces.

[A]

Is there another name that could have dropped in there? Like, would you have been like, could.

[B]

It be one, two names? Anima. I thought you really had a thing for syrup. That was a phase you went through.

[C]

But if he hadn't gone first and then last. There's a. There's a Rolodex of.

[B]

It's going to get crazier. This was the worst thing I'm going to do. That was the worst thing I'm going to do. That was my opener, not my closer.

[A]

Right, Right.

[C]

Bam.

[B]

Coming in hot.

[A]

Okay. It's very impressive. I'm sweating.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

It's very impressive, you know.

[B]

Who do you have in here? I came in here today. Full transparency, I want them to understand. Walked in and one of your producers, I believe Ryan, came in, fanboying, told me, can I reveal this? Wish me a Shanah Tovah.

[A]

Oh, happy Rosh Hashanah. Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, like, not overly religious, but, you know, it was very nice of him. Can I reveal this? I don't know if I can. He says, I'm going to Rosh Hashanah dinner or I'm going to a service, but I want to come see this thing. And he said, I'm a big fan of yours. And I said, I want you to make this tough. I want you to make this tough. Is he around here?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I said, I want you to think of somebody. Just man think of somebody absolutely random. He goes random, I go random. And I said, you know, don't tell anyone. I don't want you to write this on a piece of paper. I don't want. I want this in your head, in the vault. Is he around here somewhere?

[A]

Yes, he is. He's in the booth.

[B]

And he didn't know if he'd get a shot, but we give him a shot. Is he in the booth? Should you talk to him through the booth?

[A]

You can talk to him right in the mic. Yeah, he's right there.

[B]

There he is.

[C]

There he.

[B]

Look at that handsome man.

[A]

Yeah. So well dressed.

[B]

All right, let's walk through this. Ryan, we can see him in the booth and me. Is that correct?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ryan, you thought of anybody on the spot, in the moment, you said, who am I going to go with? And you didn't know. Is that correct? Now, I don't know what you've done between now and then. So did you share this information with anybody. Does this information exist anywhere in the world but in your mind at this very moment? Okay, let's try the same thing we did before. But now here's where this gets interesting. Now that I did it the first time, you have a tactical advantage. It's like watching somebody run an obstacle course. First you kind of know where the slip ups are. The more people you can watch do it. Now you'd be like, well, you did the thing with the two hands, so I'm not going to count that way. So now he knows reverse psychology on me. So now I got to watch this. Count the number of letters in this person's first name just to yourself. See, he nodded too fast. It was too fast. That name can't be Mitchell. Everyone struggles with the double Ls. That was a lightning fast. You have young kids. Do you know what sight words are in first grade? Those are words you don't have to read yet. You look at them, you know them because you know how to sight. That was a four or five letter word, maybe three. Four letters, isn't it? This guy's got the worst poker face in the world. All right. Oh, man. Man, oh, man. Let's look at. Let's look at you pick. I think it's a guy. Is it a guy? Because he mentioned he was dating someone. So this is like a fresh relationship. If he thinks of a girl right now, he's in trouble. This is going to be on the podcast. This guy's hedging, hedging smart. Senior leadership for a reason.

[A]

Yeah, there you go. That's true.

[B]

Not just all looks, his brains up there.

[A]

Yeah. Yes.

[B]

Ryan, pick any one of the four letters in the name. Don't tell me which one. And just imagine that you look down, you wrote it. Well, you didn't write anything. But I want to clarify, like if you had written this on a big piece of paper and you reach down and you circle a letter in the name. If you got one letter, you're focused on now, here again, I want to explain to you something. You did the first letter. He won't do the first letter. He won't. It just. It's like a psychological thing. I also said in the word, as soon as you say in the word, people don't do bookends. They go inside. You didn't do the first or last letter, did you? Which one? Oh, I'll be damned. Listen.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Got me.

[A]

You said man.

[B]

Got me good.

[A]

Lots of brains up there.

[B]

Lots of brains up there. I'm Flexing, too, by the way. That's good.

[A]

You look good.

[B]

I need to work out. All right, last letter. Can you stand up just a bit because I can't see your mouth right now. Let's see what he's whispering over there.

[E]

I put him on the tv, if that makes it easier.

[B]

The last letter of this guy's name is. I feel as if Ryan didn't want me to screw this up. So he's feeling a little bad right now. He's going down this path of, oh, am I gonna be the guy that got him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? He's like, oh, no. So he feels bad for me, but at the same time, he's rethinking his choice. And I'm gonna tell you why. When people pick vowels, they kind of get mad because there's only five of them. And it's like, kind of in Wheel of Fortune. That's the giveaway. And so now he's going like, God, why'd I do a vowel? And that was too easy. And then they go, A, E, I, O, U. It's an I, isn't it?

[A]

What the.

[B]

I think that I put this guy in your head. I think I put this guy in your head. We talked about Rosh Hashanah. You said Shanah Tovah. Said Shanah Tovah. Flexed a little bit on the. On the Jew card. And then you thought to yourself, I've known this guy and had something to do. Israeli named Omri. Is his name Omri?

[A]

No way. I haven't thought of this guy in a second.

[B]

What if you called Omri right now on the phone? What if you call him? Don't really call him. What if you called him right now on the phone and he gets on the phone. Ryan's about to faint. Do we have an ems? We have, like, one of those defibs.

[A]

He's really rethinking dating a Jewish girl right now. He's like, what the fuck are they up to, man?

[B]

Great decision. You'll never have to make another decision in your life. It's perfect. Listen to me. If you called Omri right now and he goes. And you just told him right on the moment you said, I got an inside joke, or I've got a phrase, or I got a word, or I got a few words, I'm just gonna say something to Omri, right? That he's gonna go, oh, man, I remember that. I remember that. I'm putting you on the spot. A phrase, a word, number of words. Like, imagine yourself saying something to him. Can you see, you're saying something to him right now. Can you see it? 2, 3, 4, 5. It felt like. I don't know how many. 2, 3, 4. 1, 2, 3. Is it two words? Three words? Something like that. Is it three? Three words? Okay. It feels like maybe two of the words are important. I don't know. What. Yo, come on. I'm watching this right now. Yeah, I know you guys. I'm a big fan of a big. Is this set up? Is this staged? Did we. Is there any way in the world I could know this?

[A]

No, not at all.

[B]

No, that he'd be put on the spot, that he'd think of somebody and pick up an inside joke.

[A]

I wasn't even supposed to be here today.

[B]

Shouldn't have been here. God is watching.

[C]

And he doesn't like it.

[B]

Second word to start with an I.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay. Okay. Can you see. Can you see what I'm writing? I don't want to make sure in the control booth. I don't know what the second word is. I don't know. Whatever. I'm gonna go with this. Close your eyes, gang. Can you see what I wrote?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You can see. They can see it real quick. Blah, blah, blah. I'm gonna guess if I get this part right. That was just a guess in the middle, so don't give me credit. Open your eyes. Omri calls you. He goes, ryan, money, shma. What's going on, buddy? And you say to him, boom. Three words. What is this story? What'd you say to him?

[A]

It's a music video. The first thing I ever produced in la. We. The very last part of the music video was paint on a beach. Come on, dude.

[B]

How the.

[A]

What the.

[E]

Dude.

[A]

What?

[C]

You're a sorcerer. This is witchcraft.

[A]

Wait, what's the. What's the guiding principle to getting you there? I don't understand at all. This is.

[B]

Gotta buy the book. No, the book won't teach you that one.

[A]

How the. Did you.

[B]

Ryan will not sleep tonight, by the way. How did you do? When he gets home, there will be paint on the beach under his pillow.

[C]

I'm puke. I'm like. I want to puke right now.

[B]

If you puke, this video go viral. I suggest it. Can we please do that? We get.

[A]

Get any insight into this? Like, any.

[B]

How the mentalist tricks work?

[A]

Well, like that in particular.

[B]

That one is not good for my job.

[A]

It's not. Okay.

[C]

All right, all right.

[B]

There's some. Some secrets I retain.

[A]

That was really insane.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah. What do you. Okay, that's Just so crazy. He is going to be all up over this.

[B]

We're gonna have to get any at some point, I think.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Who's the handsome gentleman with the pseudo Jerry curl in the middle right there?

[A]

That is. That's Tyler.

[B]

No, no, Joe. Josh.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

Those are healthy curls, my friend. Thank you. And a stash Jewish curls.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. Right now I'm serious. Ryan's probably like, is this what they do on Russia? That's really.

[B]

You dip apples in honey and Omri helps you.

[C]

I mean, the specificity. And it's not even a phrase paint on me. It's like, it's not even a thing.

[A]

Can we briefly, I think before we started recording, you made reference to mystery.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And when we were playing his clips earlier, it kind of like hit us. We're like, well, that's like of like, you know, adjacent to.

[B]

Super adjacent. There's a huge overlap. I don't want to say there's an ick factor, the pickup artist community, whatever, but. So some of the same things they do and they're called indicators of interest. There's body language reads, there's a way you approach a group and how that are included in my book that have a real Venn diagram overlap, but they're not designed for picking up, you know, women in this case, therefore establishing deeper relationships with people, be it friends, family. I came up as a strolling magician at restaurants when I was 14 years old. My mom's like, you know, oh, you gotta make money. Cause I was like 13 when I started doing this and folks were divorced and there's no money. I didn't have a lot of cash growing up. So she's like, if you wanna buy more tricks, go work buddy. So I somehow sweet talked my way into a restaurant gig half a mile from my house and learned the hard way how much people detest you walking up to them at a restaurant when you're like a 14 year old kid.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. He want to see some tricks. It's like, no, I want you out of my table. And I learned so much about human dynamics and call it sales 101. At a young age.

[A]

I bet you'd be an incredible salesperson.

[B]

So I am a salesperson.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I mean, what I'm selling is a very unique product. Traditional sales.

[A]

You would be amazing.

[B]

I've been made very lucrative offers at companies that I perform for corporate events. They go, we want you as a salesperson. Here I go, man. I'm having way more fun than doing this than that. But 100% the overlap is the exact same thing is, can you give us, like.

[A]

I know. I mean, I want people to get the book. Sure, sure. In the book, will you give us, like, a little introduction into. One of the things that I think is interesting for people is a lot of people struggle with confidence. Right. Like, what's a introductory level confidence boosting exercise that people can do or better for, like, you know, meeting people?

[B]

Absolutely. So one of the biggest mistakes you make, okay, one of them is the same thing from the pickup arts world, is confidence is something that's a muscle. The moment you get over, it's the dread that people have. The dread of the walking up to somebody and going for it eats you alive. And the more you wait in that moment, the more dreadful it gets. So it's one of those things where you challenge yourself and you say, tonight I see a person, I'm going up to them within three seconds, and I'm giving it a go. And walk up with a question that is not yes or no. Yes or no questions can be shot down. So as soon as you ask a yes or no question. So I learned early on, Let me give you a great example from my world, and then we'll see how we adapt. I'd walk up to a table, say, hey, want to see some magic? No. And then. Right, that's. You nailed it. So right then, what I started learning is intro to mentalism, but real life mentalism. What is that person thinking about me when they meet me? Be brutally honest. So I learned that there was a bunch of questions when I walked up to you. The first thing you do is your personal space is being imposed upon. People don't like that. You're not the waiter or waitress. Who are you? So who is this person? Then they see you're doing something like, wait, what is he about to do? Oh, my God, he's doing magic. Is he any good? Do they know he's doing this? Or is he just, like, walking around? Oh, my God. Do I have to tip him? Do I have any cash? Like, all these thoughts, is he gonna stay? Is he gonna leave soon? Oh, my God. Like, all these thoughts race into your mind instantly. So I started learning. I need to take all of those moments of resistance, all of those things they're thinking, and I have to attack them quickly and answer them in the shortest amount of time possible and hopefully flip the dynamic. Now, what do I mean by the dynamic? I want instead of me to be selling them, I want them to be selling me. I want to completely switch it where they want me more than I want them. So I learned that if I walked up to you head on, it's very intimidating. You walk up to somebody at a party like this, right in their face, it's intimidating. But if I walk up to you at an angle and this is from that world, and I say, hey, I'm one foot in, one foot out the door, it's much less scary to someone. And then I say, hey, I've only got a minute right there. I've only got a minute, so I'm not staying long. That's a great way to do it. I don't need you. You need me. I only got a minute. But did you hear it's your lucky night tonight? No one ever says it's your lucky night to I don't want a lucky night. They go, what's going on? Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you've hit the dopamine. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Of what's going on tonight. I'm interested. I'm intrigued. Right. They're leaning forward. And I'd say the owner brought me in as a special treat for you guys, and I have something incredible to show you. There's been no question asked at any point in time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's been only indicators of fun, exciting things. The owner brought me in as a treat, so those few words instantly put you at ease. Oh, I have the social currency. This person brought me in as a special treat. Treat. You don't owe me money right now, which is a lot of people's awkward feeling. Oh, God.

[A]

What do I have to give you?

[B]

And that's gonna weigh on you. That weighs on you the whole time. If you're sitting there watching, you don't have money. You're like, you have tip money.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Right. That's like. It ruins the experience. So those exact things that I thought through made it so that within five to ten seconds of you meeting me at a restaurant, you are at ease. And now I can win you over. Now, that still means I better deliver the goods at that moment. But see yourself at a party or at an event, you're going to go up to somebody who you've been wanting to meet. This person is potentially is going to get you a job or might recommend you to someone else, or maybe you're trying to get into some tennis club, I don't know. And you got. But at the end of the day, you meet people for certain reasons, and I'm not calling it transactional, but the more people like you, the more they'll want to help you. That's the rule of life. Am I right? Nobody likes assholes. I don't want to do something for you if you're a jerk to me. So know what makes them tick and try to be interested in them. I can tell you something from my own personal life that you can apply, which is I've been on all different TV networks. I do stuff constantly for ESPN and football teams. Not a lot of people do that for CNBC and Fox Business, which are financial networks that typically do not have human interest. They don't have mentalists or magicians. I'm on 60 Minutes this season. The last time I had a mentalist on was 20 years ago. There's only been one other one. Why do they have me on? Because what I do is I hold up a mirror on someone else and I make them shine. So when I go on cnbc, I've been on dozens of times because I do stuff about the market, interest rates, stocks, bonds, things that people watching are interested in. So the more you can make it about the other person, that can be your superpower. Be interested in them, learn about them. And inherently that makes you more interesting.

[A]

And then this is great information. I think it, like, it applies like to life. So for the guy who is like watching the pickup artist.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

But wants to apply this to like, like maybe doing something like that without that type of charade, it seems like go up to somebody like, you just, you got to go for it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Maybe don't approach head on because that could be like a lot like you're saying. And then don't ask yes or no. Which is, I think is a. That's a great piece of advice. Right. Because it shut down so quick. Like something that you have to expand upon more. And then the next thing seems to be try to make the conversation about the person. Like, absolutely.

[B]

If you can do your homework, if you know anything about this person, if it's fully fresh, then that's a different thing. We have to do a little ad lib. And that's our exercise. Right. That's our muscle that we've done. Comedians, mental people that do crowd work for others, they're not comfortable. But if you can do your homework, do your homework and let's say you read something. Or in Tom's case, I've just watched a bunch of his content, so it's not something I have to fake. I enjoy what he does. So if you walk in there showing interest and saying, oh my God, you know, I saw that you guys put out this New product. I love this feature. What made you choose that? I'm so curious. Wow. Now you've shown that I care about you. I've taken the time, which nowadays nobody does.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you're asking them something that might be of interest to them, and then listen. The number one thing people don't do, they don't listen.

[A]

Right.

[B]

They just.

[A]

And that's your superpower.

[B]

I think that's a whole chapter in the book. Yeah, it's just what people give me. And they don't realize they're giving me active listening.

[A]

This is something I see all the time in conversations. Wherever. Like when, you know, we meet people, obviously everywhere. You're on the road, you're traveling, you talk to people, and you realize as you're talking to them, you're like, this person's not listening to anything.

[B]

Zero.

[A]

They're just waiting to talk.

[B]

They're waiting for their turn and thinking. The wheels are turning because your brain can't read and write at the same time. It's very difficult. It's kind of like that trick where if you're rubbing this and rubbing this, or you're done with your leg, your leg goes the other way. It's a. It's. It's your autonomic system you cannot control. You're tested this. If you start patting your. Your head and rubbing your stomach and twirling your leg, do the opposite. Your leg will switch directions from clockwise to counterclockwise.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

The gummies just hit right now.

[C]

I mean, I hate to, like, try.

[B]

It later in the bedroom.

[A]

I practice with you.

[C]

No, no.

[A]

Hey there. No, no, I don't want to practice with you.

[B]

I'm wondering, so that.

[A]

Does that lipstick come off when it's used appropriately?

[C]

Oh, I'm going to throw up.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I saw the guy with no neck, and he says he likes that lipstick. I'm working my neck. I'm working my neck. So that's. Honestly one of the chapters in the book is watching people. And I've had the good fortune of meeting some of my heroes. Just one of the amazing things. Met some of the most successful, influential, like, call it rich, whatever you want. I met Steven Spielberg. I did his dad's birthday party when he turned 99. I get in that room now, I'm going in there to kill it. Right. First and foremost is I want to put my best foot forward. But I'm also, for the month before I got booked, thinking, what am I gonna ask Steven Spielberg? Right. I don't know how much FaceTime I'll get. But I'm loaded up. I'm loaded. Jaws question, closed encounters, Third kind, ET Questions. Maybe a Schindler's List, but that's gonna bring the mood down. But I've just got some questions.

[A]

Kind of a bummer a little bit. Hey, nice to meet you. So when the Jews Holocaust. Yeah.

[B]

So I was geared up to be a little bit of a fan. Like, what can I tell you? That's like, my childhood. I'm from the 80s.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At the end of the show, I didn't expect, you know, Steven's with his family. It's like, intimate affair. He comes up to me, beelines for me, and I'm like, hey, you know, play cool.

[A]

What's up?

[B]

What's your name? Oh, yeah, Steven. Steven, I heard you. No. So I go, steven. And he just starts bombarding me with questions. Like, boom, boom. All these questions. And we all know the questions we get. I call them the 20 questions. The questions everyone asks, how did you get in this? Now, I'm not judging you, because that's an FAQ for a reason, but you also go into autopilot when you hear those, because you've answered those questions a thousand times before. I don't fault the people. If you're sitting next to me on a plane, you find out. A mentalist. Wtf. Also, I'm gonna lie to you because I don't want to read your mind for the next three hours. So he asked me questions nobody asks. And he wouldn't. He was naturally curious. And this is somebody who could have flexed a million times over, right? And he could have been like, look what I've done. Look, he. At the end of it, this is a chapter in my book. I talked to him for 20 minutes. I was like, at some point, I'm like, dude, do you need to go, Steven? He's like, no, no. I'm locked in. I asked him zero questions. I wanted to exchange those digits. I'm like, can I text you later, bro? I got nothing in. And that's when I realized it was a life lesson. That's why he's Steven Spielberg, because he is a naturally curious person. And I don't think he just does that to me. He does that to everyone. And his superpower is absorbing those stories from others. And that's why his films are so incredibly authentic, because he makes real characters, and he finds out what makes you tick and what's interesting about you. And he probably takes it and silos it for some other time later. But it was like, this masterclass where in the moment I was pissed, but over time I'm like, that's what this guy does. And also knowing that that moment I will talk about for the rest of my life. Most people he meets will mention this forever.

[A]

Can I ask you what was one of the unusual questions that he asked you? You know, I mean, when you said that, it's not like your standard questions.

[B]

Absolutely. So, like, things that just when you were doing this 10 years ago, did you see yourself being where you are now? And it's like one of those. Those types of questions that are introspective.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

That make you think of who you were before and where you've gotten to now. But it wasn't based on success or money. Like, what, you know, this is. It was more of just like, are you doing the things you thought you were doing? I'm like, no, I'm trying to do new things. And he goes, why is that exciting to you? Like, just. They were very well formed and thought out questions that made me question my own motives and what I was doing. And when people can do that for you, it's a. It's a blessing, it's a gift. When someone comes up to you and cuts through all your BS and goes through all your external layers and gets in the middle and starts to figure out who you really are and, like, they ask you something that you were like, never thought about that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it stays with you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You remember that person?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You want to be that person?

[A]

Yes. That's really great.

[C]

I'd argue that a lot of people don't know how to answer those questions.

[B]

I guess, but that's. I don't think that that's a bad thing. So for me, I believe that being memorable is the most important thing I do in my career. And I mean, it's not fooling you. Like, when I do a show, like, I'm here, I have a show tomorrow. I don't. I don't know, 800 people tomorrow, corporate event, Another one the same day, back to back. And I have another one, Aspen, the next day. Going to be crazy. And that one's gonna be very high profile. Pretty much the CEO of every top 50 companies in the world. You name the name, they are there. So it's gonna be big pressure. But in that room, I don't care if I don't fool you. Some things you hopefully come up with because that means you're engaged. Entertaining you is a byproduct because a popcorn movie, you eat and leave and forget about is entertaining doesn't mean you remember it. I wanna be remembered. I want you to tell this story the way ryan will in 3 years, 5 years, 10 years, and be like, man, I saw this mental. She go, oh my God. Let me tell you what I saw on your mom's house. That's thought of Omri.

[A]

That's your goal for every show.

[B]

That's my goal in life.

[A]

In life. So then like, will you approach the two show day and the. And the Aspen? Okay. The.

[B]

The same way I knew she was thinking number one. For the record, I knew.

[A]

Yeah. Will you approach those shows the same way? Like just. Yeah, I'm going to do my. But like.

[B]

Or one of them is a little more high profile. So I'm thinking of what I can do in the room that would be like a crazy challenge.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where with a room of people that are such alpha, like apex predators within the apex predators of this planet.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

They have to call the shots. And they call the shots. So rather than me asking my IC stand up, I go, let's get somebody in here. I don't want to say the names yet because I don't want to. It's off the record, but just think of the most famous CEO and what if they stood up and said, I want to ask you a question. You couldn't know. And I go, let's go. And then we would start to dissect every way it's possible where it's like, okay, well, have you looked this up? Well, no, don't write it down because maybe that's a trick pen or, you know, don't get out your phone because maybe your phone is hacked. Maybe like every possible way you could do it, I want to get rid of until we get to the moment where I just guess it and they're blown away. And I then start telling them the story that they're gonna tell others. And that's very important. That's a chapter in the book, which is memory is malleable. And that's why, as a good comedian, your opener and your closer are the most important parts of your set, I would argue, because your closer is the way you leave them feeling.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You could have the best set ever if your closer's a dud. We just went off on like such.

[A]

A. Yeah, you could have a mediocre set and have a monster closer. And everyone's like.

[B]

And everyone. That's all they remember. And the opener sets the tone for the set. Even though sometimes walk in and I've seen drop ins where I'M at the Cellar and some monster comes in, you know, Rock is in there, Dave Chappelle, somebody you weren't expecting. And then the person who follows them, you're still riding that high. And they've got to have the right thing that diffuses the tension to bring you back to them. And I've seen it. I'm going to shout out Mike Vecchione, who I love and I know super funny guy. And Mike, one time he was on after Seinfeld and Seinfeld crushed it and Mike got up and I, I kid you not, absolutely destroyed Seinfeld that night. And that's not, that's not a testament because I love Seinfeld. They're both like, you know, on my Mount Rushmore and I've seen Mike for 20 plus years, I'm a comedy fan and I used to go to the Cellar like once or twice a week. But he just brought it back so strong and the self deprecating and the way he played off like, well, it was not Seinfeld and just, just you didn't expect it. And when you don't expect and it just goes through the roof. Destroy that room.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I mean, that's like a seasoned like experience pro.

[B]

Of course, of course. This is an open micro.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

But I'm saying to, to come in there where you don't know how it's gonna go, that, that, that's the skill.

[A]

That's. Yeah, well, the, the observation you made that I immediately go like, oh, this is like, this speaks to like intelligence and experience is. I like the fact that you lead with that. You know, these guys are used to calling the shots.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is the same thing. You don't have to be the type of person that's going to perform for them that if you make that observation, you also know what, what to kind of expect in engaging these guys. In other words, if you were just walking in the room, invited to have.

[B]

A drink going on dnd here, I don't know who keeps calling, what's going on here. Bam, bam. Done.

[A]

If you were just going there to socialize.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

It's also important to note these are the types of guys you're going to be talking to and this is the type of personnel, like, this is what they're used to.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Because then you can gauge how you will entertain them or, or you know, meet them, because that's an important detail about them.

[B]

I will up the ante. So if somebody's seen it all before, we need to show them something they haven't seen before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's, again, I don't want to keep, like, referencing the book, but if you're going to do something, you need to set the goal of doing something either different than everybody else, better than everybody else, or both.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You need to set yourself apart in this world. And lucky for us, we can all do it, because we all have phones. Almost everybody listening to this has a phone. And your phone is your platform. Where 20 years ago, good luck getting the message out now. There's no excuse. Yeah. You want to learn to do something. YouTube, you can literally learn anything in the palm of your hand.

[A]

That easy.

[B]

You want to be a mentalist. I learned I didn't get bit by, like, a spider and become spider man. This has been 30 years of training.

[A]

And practice, really training.

[B]

You got to commit yourself.

[A]

Do I get to keep that boat?

[B]

Why not? Full transparency, fake book. They didn't print it yet, so it's just a cover.

[A]

Can I keep that one?

[B]

No, because I need it for more press.

[A]

I'll order one. I'll do that.

[B]

I'm gonna sign one for both of you.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[B]

And then the COVID This is my boy right here, David Goggins.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Learn to master the most powerful weapon your mind. Zoom in on that. That is the quote I want you to know, because that is it. And on the back, we got Mark Cuban, we got Jay Shetty, Katie Kirk, and Adam Grant. All genius level people that I don't deserve to have in my book.

[A]

But awesome, dude.

[B]

All really good, folks.

[A]

Congratulations.

[B]

I enjoyed it.

[A]

I'm looking forward to reading this now.

[B]

Or audiobook it if you're too add like me and you're on the go.

[A]

Can we do something with Christina?

[B]

Let's do it. Let's do it.

[C]

Hold on. Can you guess something in another language? Oh, have you ever done that before?

[B]

I have. I have. How many languages do you speak?

[C]

I don't really very well, but Hungarian, so.

[B]

So I tasked you upon arrival with. I said to you, because we met right before, and I said, what could we ask? What could be a challenging question that we could ask your husband.

[C]

Oh, right, right, right. I remember.

[B]

And I said, but good. You don't remember, because I think it was percolating your mind. And I said, come up with a couple questions that we could ask him. You don't think he'll know the answer to. If you were to ask the question out loud right now, which is, if you ask the question, could I know the answer just from you asking the Question. Because some of you go, well, what's my favorite flavor of ice cream? If you said that, then I could maybe ascertain just by you asking the question. Is there any way I could know the answer?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay. Okay. I said a couple of questions. And couple to me always means two. But some people interpret that elsewhere. But you nodded. So it's two questions. The first question. Ask me the first question that came to mind. Say it out loud. Don't say the answer, but ask him that question. Say it out loud. What's the question?

[C]

Best burper I've ever heard.

[B]

Okay. Don't say, do you think you know who that is?

[A]

I do think I know who that is.

[B]

Don't do it. Did you have another question?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Nice. In the chamber. Second question.

[C]

First babysitter in America.

[B]

Ooh, he's struggling. Don't say, do you know that person?

[A]

She's saying, who is this?

[B]

She's doing two different questions. Unless your babysitter was the best burper, in which case multi talented. Hope you held on to that person.

[A]

But you're saying, who was your first babysitter in America when you were a child?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, wow. Do you know that?

[A]

I don't know who that is.

[B]

Oh, you don't even know it.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[A]

Maybe she's mentioned it before, but I don't recall.

[B]

Do you have a pen and paper?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Do you know that babysitter's first and last name?

[C]

Not the last.

[B]

Okay, so first name only. The. The burper. Do you know first and last name? But you know the first and last name.

[A]

Well, here's the thing. Can I. Can I comment?

[B]

Give away the answer? Yeah.

[A]

So I think when it comes to the best burper. Yeah. There is one from our personal life, and then there is one that is notable, like, more famous.

[C]

There's. It's a. It's the. Can I tell them? Can I give him.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

Don't get it. Is it the notable social famous person or is it the one that we've interacted with on a personal level?

[C]

Neither.

[B]

Oh, damn. Way to wait A fail this one.

[A]

All right, take. What she's doing is she's throwing curveballs.

[D]

Take.

[B]

Do you have a pen? I want your pen, your paper, nothing of mine. And I want you to write down the initials of the burper. Can't be in front of me.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

Tom, will you cover my eyes? Don't do it yet.

[A]

Don't do it. Don't do it.

[B]

Cover my eyes. Reach over Wait, I'm covered. I'm looking away.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Is there any mirrors or anybody? I could see it. Just their first and last initial. Did you do it?

[A]

Let me see it.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You're showing Tom. Don't show a camera. Don't show a camera.

[A]

I already saw it. I already saw it. You can put it down now. Put it down this way.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. Initials, initials, initials.

[C]

So much I. I hate this.

[B]

My wife says that to me very frequently.

[C]

I'm, like, sweating.

[A]

Why are you. Why do you hate it?

[C]

I just like. It's witchcraft. Now I feel like I'm a black person. I don't like. Now I'm getting it any.

[B]

It's like getting me canceled. All right. Think of the first initial.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And I want you to say the Alphabet. Like as if you were doing a sobriety check. You just got pulled over. And they say, say the Alphabet forwards. Go. You could do it as a sing song, but say the Alphabet. Go.

[C]

A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, and Z. Pacing was good.

[B]

The pacing was good. It was. There was. There's a momentary lapse, then there was the eye open at a certain point. Oh, wow. I think you try to throw me a false. Like you try to throw. You try to chum the water. And I think maybe it's 25% that I think the letter, but I think you did a fake one. The first initial is not a T, is it?

[C]

No.

[B]

See, that's where you tried to fake me. That's where you try to fake me. Now think of the last initial.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And now do the Alphabet backwards. Can you do it?

[C]

No, I can't do that.

[B]

C, Y, X, W, V, U, T.

[C]

S, R, Q, P, O, N, M.

[B]

L, K, G, H, G, F, E, D, C, D, A. I teach that in the book. You learn how to do it in five minutes, you can do it for the rest of your life.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Swear to God I can't do it backwards. Just do it forward again, but go faster. Lightning fast forward.

[A]

All right, ready?

[C]

Ready.

[B]

Go.

[C]

ABCDA F, G, H, I, D, K, Nama, K, Q, R, S, T, V, W, X, Y, Z.

[B]

Okay, second letter is an S, isn't it? Oh, I got you dialed in. Second letter is an S. Definitely an S on that one because she tried to do the T. She threw me off, and this time I got it. First one's, like, weird. It's like, weird. Where did you do it? It was right on the jk where you tried, but you did. On the J to throw me off. Is the K. Is it a K? Did you write KS on that paper?

[C]

I hate you so much.

[B]

Can you show them? Can you show that ks? KS is what she wrote down?

[C]

I fucking hate you. I hate you.

[B]

And now. And now the person you thought of, the person you thought of first, babysitter growing up. And you were like, can you do this in a different language now? I think it's not an American name. Name now. I think this is an American name now. I think it's something weird. In Hungarian, there might not even be vowels. It's just like Polish. It's just exactly Z's and C's and S's. All the name is Z. S, CSWS Yeah, that's what it sounds like. All right, think of her name. Pick any letter in her first name. Go fast.

[C]

Pick any letter.

[B]

Pick a letter in her first name.

[C]

In your head.

[B]

Think of an interesting letter. Get it. Don't say, got it, got it, got it, got it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You did. You didn't. You did a vowel. He did a vowel. You didn't do a vowel, did you?

[C]

I did.

[B]

You again. Again. So boring. Change. Do a different letter. You did one.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Change again. No, she's like, I ran out of letters.

[C]

Okay, I have another one.

[B]

Go back. J. You thought of it. J.

[C]

How the.

[B]

And I think she had, like, heavy makeup. How? Spelled it with a. But it sounds like it's with an eye. Nadja.

[A]

Wow. You are turning black. This is fantastic.

[C]

How the. How the. Bro, She's Armenian. Nadia, my first babysitter. I'm, like, shaking that.

[B]

How the.

[C]

Dude. Naja. Armenian, bro. That's wild, bro. Okay.

[A]

I just recognized something, too.

[C]

What?

[A]

I'm not saying it. We'll just hold on.

[B]

Tom just got very excited.

[C]

Jay, how did you fucking.

[A]

I just fucking. Hold on, dude. Just keep going. God damn it. I'm so upset. Now.

[B]

We have time for one more.

[A]

Yeah. Are we gonna do mine?

[B]

Two more?

[A]

Are we gonna do the other one? We did.

[B]

No, I got. I gotta. I gotta queue up the crew over here.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Any. Have we had any interaction?

[A]

No.

[B]

Have I asked you to think of a thing before this moment?

[E]

No, you said think of nothing.

[B]

Nothing. He walked up to me and he did this. He's like, get out of my head. I was like. I was like, I don't want to do anything. I don't want to even plant thoughts in advance, but did I already plant a thought in his mind?

[A]

Of course he fucking did already.

[B]

Already? So you're. You're over there. Here's what I want to try. Can we get any. To come in the room?

[A]

Yeah, I guess.

[B]

Is that all right? Is that impossible?

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Any.

[C]

Get in the room.

[B]

I need to lay eyes on him. Have a seat for me. Wherever you're comfortable.

[C]

He needs a mic.

[B]

He needs a mike.

[A]

Well, it's okay. We can.

[B]

Should we do a duet here? Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You take the fart mic.

[C]

Oh, take the fart mic.

[A]

Yeah. There you go.

[E]

Oh, great.

[B]

Oh, any think of someone famous? It could be somebody dead or alive. Dead or live, past or present. Some people do movie stars. Some people do athletes, singers, politicians, historical figures. Right? Comedians. Take a moment, and I want you to see all different people's faces going through your head. And I want you to change your mind a bunch of times. So later on when you rethink this through, you'll be like, I didn't even go with my first thought. Change your mind as many times as you feel like. And when you feel like you're good, snap your finger, say, I'm good.

[E]

I hate this, man. I hate this. There's no. There's no fucking way, dude. There's no way.

[B]

Fingers snapped.

[A]

Are you locked in on someone?

[B]

Yeah, sure you're locked in?

[E]

Yeah. There's no way. This is impossible.

[B]

I ask you to think of literally anybody that's ever lived, dead or alive. How many people went through your head before you ended up on this person?

[A]

Three.

[B]

Three. You went this one to this one, to this one. All guys, Am I right? There was never female in there. Female. You would have seen him scratch the beard. And finally, where do we end up? This flannel repping, a little bit of 90s grunge. It was Kurt Cobain, wasn't it?

[C]

Shut the front door.

[E]

Fuck that, man.

[B]

That's fucking crazy, dude.

[A]

Yo, you're the devil, dog. Let the go, man.

[E]

Yeah, that's crazy, man.

[A]

That's.

[E]

I don't want to sit here. That's uncomfortable, man.

[B]

Why. Why can you do that?

[E]

Yeah, why did you do that?

[A]

Okay, who's the other.

[B]

That's it for me, man. I can't top that. I leave you wanting more.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's showbiz.

[A]

Unbelievable.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

So, wait, was Kurt his one that he. That.

[B]

That's his last minute. That's his last second change. That's the.

[A]

Was Kurt his consideration before not answer or was Curtis final?

[B]

Final answer. Wait, can we get one last person? Any. I'm swapping you in because he's his mind hurts right now. His brain hurts.

[E]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

Let's put some money on this. Let's get some skin in the game, Tom.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Do you have. You have. You have wallet, money clip? What do you got? Yeah, let's get. Grab out your money clip.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And in tandem. Who's left in there? You pick somebody. Who we got? Zolo, call him in here. Let's get him in.

[A]

Zolo, get in here.

[B]

He's been itching. Okay, come on in. Take out your money clip.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And do me a favor. Once you get in, come on in. Grab the fart mic. Thank you for joining us. Is it okay if I can see what you're doing? I want to have a little vision of this. So take out some of the bills.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I want you to leaf through them.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

In front of us. Can we see?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, sure. Hold on. 1.

[B]

Tommy S. Rolling deep. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And grab out a bill.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Go for it.

[A]

Any bill.

[B]

I don't know. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And. And you grabbed any bill. Perfect. Put the rest of them away.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I want you to fold the bill in half.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then crush it in your hand like a real man.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Crush into a ball. Tight, tight, tight.

[A]

Try tight. Tight. Okay.

[B]

You got it?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And freeze right there.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Imagine that when you walked in this room, someone from your life, someone you care about, I don't know whether this family member, friend, personal, other, walks in the room right after you. Can you picture as if that person walks in the room right now?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And rather than me, ask everyone in the room a question, what if you asked me, I say to you, give me a question about that person that I couldn't possibly know. Right? A question. Not about you, because I might have researched you, but how in the world could I know something about somebody else that you just picked at random? Ask me about this person. What's what? What's a question about them? What's their date of birth? What's their date of birth? That'd be nuts, right? Yes, that would be nuts. Yes, if I could do that. Bam. That wins the bet. Watch. Think of this person.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Turn and look at them as if they're here. Look at the smile. Look at the light pupil dilation. This is a female. This is a female. This is a female. Hell, yeah, it's a female. Yeah, I could feel that. I could feel that vibe. I like to do this. Mix up all the letters in the name.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I always say, pick one out. And I kind of watch him, and I see him go back and forth. And everyone's been thinking of vowels today.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So did Josh do the same thing as you guys? And I thought maybe he did. You didn't do the first letter, did you?

[C]

No.

[B]

You thought that would give it away. And then you pursed your lips. Watch what you did.

[C]

Mmm.

[B]

Maybe the name starts with an M. No, it doesn't. It sounds like M. Em. Emma. Emily. Is her name Emily?

[C]

Mm. Shut the fu.

[B]

Are you for real? Yeah. You just thought of Emily? I did. Watch this. Her date of birth. You ready? I just won the bet. Do you believe me?

[A]

I actually do.

[B]

Could you have thought of anybody? Literally, you could have picked anybody. This is anybody in your family, in your life?

[D]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah. And then the question was random as well. You know Emily's date of birth. I do. Tell it to us, please. May 30, 1998. So one more time, if I could just say that May 30, could you say that for me again? May 30, 1990. I would call that 0530, 1998. Would you agree? Mm. He could have thought of anybody. He could have thought of any. Question your mother.

[C]

He's not gonna do that.

[B]

Open up the bill. What bill did you have in your hand? Tell us all you took out. What was it? A $1 bill.

[A]

$1 bill.

[B]

Open it up. That came out of your wallet. Can you read us? Because the government stamps every bill with a serial number. Can you read us the digits, two at a time of your bill, please?

[C]

How the.

[B]

Dude, go ahead.

[A]

You're fucking. 053-01-998.

[B]

Show the camera.

[C]

I fucking hate this.

[B]

Can we zoom in on that?

[A]

I don't know if we can zoom in on it.

[C]

Holy. And just so you guys know, Tom did not. You've not. You did not touch Tom's wallet before. You've had no contact with Tom's money.

[A]

But let me. I know you're not gonna tell us anything.

[B]

I made it. I might have luckily cupped a buttock when we hugged earlier, but. Is that we. Weird. Is that. I mean, he's a handsome man.

[A]

Can I ask you this, though? I know I'm not gonna. But this is high level, right?

[B]

High level.

[A]

Like, this is. Like. This took. How long does it take you to be able to pull off what you just did?

[B]

I thought of it a week ago.

[A]

Stop.

[B]

Yeah, I think of stuff while I'm running. I run, like, marathons, ultramarathons, my side hustle. So I thought of something fun. I've never done that before. He's gonna be shook up. He's like, I was about to pick my aunt too. He's like, what the hell would you have done if you had picked my ears?

[C]

It's literally. Yeah. E05301998 do what? How the.

[A]

Can I tell you something? This is why I don't. With small bills.

[B]

Keep the money. It's a tip.

[A]

Yeah, that's yours. Get out of here.

[C]

I hate you.

[B]

Holy. Yeah, kick me out of your mom's house.

[A]

Jesus Christ, dude.

[C]

Get out of here.

[D]

Did you.

[B]

Do you.

[C]

I don't.

[A]

Do you remember the other question you asked me?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I always leave things hanging. I never know.

[A]

That's a hanger.

[B]

Hanger.

[A]

You're gonna marinate on that.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You could figure that out.

[B]

Oh, yeah. What?

[A]

He asked me if in my amateur sports days, like, as a kid, if I ever had a friend who I played with that had a weird name. And I was like, yeah. And then he's like, all right. And that was it.

[B]

That was it. Maybe I asked you that to throw you off the scent of other things. You never know what I'm doing.

[A]

Yes, that's right.

[B]

Yeah, it was. Dude.

[A]

It was all fascinating. Thank you so much for coming in.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Hold up the book again for everybody.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely. Pick this bad boy up. I honestly, this was just a lot of years of work and finally me coming to terms the fact that I have a lot to share and people have been asking me for so many years, how do you do it? How do you do it? And I want to teach you the real part of how I do it. The part that you can apply to your life.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And that's it. Because I want you to know it's not tricks. It's called Proven habits for success from the world's greatest mentalist. And that's what this book is all about. It's in the self help motivational space where I want to get you fired up. I want to get you earning more. Finding the love of your life, doing things that will actually improve your life, using the skills of a mentalist. And learn how to think like a mentalist.

[A]

I'm going to read this. I'm very excited for it.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

There's stories in there.

[A]

Also. It's kind of funny because in, like, some types of, like, shows. Let's call it like a show, you leave and you go, it's great. I leave this going. I don't know what's going on in my life and I don't know if the laws of the universe apply here. That is crazy, man.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Really? And, like, you know what? Your goal of being memorable, you know, also, maybe the end of this production company kind of entered everyone might be go, I don't want to come back in here anymore. So thanks for that.

[B]

They don't want to work for you anymore after this. This is very similar to what Rogan said to me. Where Joe goes. You shattered my worldview, and I don't even know what to do with myself right now.

[A]

That's a good way of it. So you got his pin code?

[C]

I saw.

[A]

I did.

[B]

He was so mad.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Then off air, he's like, how did you do that? And I was like, I can't tell you, Joe. He's like, I'm going to re naked choke you to death. And I'm like, I'm going to leave right now, Joe. I'm going over to Tom's place.

[A]

Well, that was. That was fantastic, bro.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Thank you so much for showing.

[B]

Thanks for having me, guys.

[A]

And we'll see you guys next week.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

All right, here we go.

[D]

Jeans.

[A]

Oh, no, this is not nothing to do with you, I promise.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[A]

I promise.

[C]

It's a surprise. It's, it's, it's a surprise. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a surprise.

[A]

Wet nut sack. This is no shit. Wet nutsack.

[C]

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a surprise.

[A]

Wet nuts. This is no shit. Wet nutsack.

[C]

It's a surprise.

[A]

She's coming. Wet nutsack. She's coming. She's coming. You know.

[C]

I know.

[A]

She's coming. Wet nutsack. She's coming, and she's coming.

[C]

You know, It's a surprise. You did it.

[F]

And we both went.

[A]

It is incredible. Wet nutsack.

[C]

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's a surprise. Again. I want more. Is there more?

[A]

Wet nutsack. I think it was towards the end of lunch.

[C]

Especially when you do it in front of your mom. Your mom, your mom, your mom.