Episode Overview
Podcast: Your Money Minute
Episode: Job Hugging 12/3/25
Host: Jessica Ettinger (CNBC)
Guest: Greg Iacurci (CNBC Personal Finance Reporter)
Duration: 60 seconds
Main Theme:
This brisk episode explores the phenomenon of "job hugging" in a cooling U.S. job market, highlighting how workers and employers alike are adjusting their strategies amidst an uncertain economic landscape.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Shift from “Great Resignation” to “Great Stay”
- Jessica Ettinger frames the topic:
“The weakening U.S. job market has a lot of people holding on to the jobs they have.” (00:03) - The era where employees frequently switched jobs—dubbed the "Great Resignation"—is now being replaced by what Greg Iacurci calls the "Great Stay." (00:09)
2. Definition and Impact of “Job Hugging”
- Greg Iacurci introduces the term:
“Job hugging is when workers are basically just clinging onto their jobs for dear life. They see a frozen labor market. They don't see a lot of opportunity out there, so they're staying at their employer. They're not moving around. There's not a lot of churn.” (00:21 - 00:31) - Both job mobility and opportunities are down, leading to unprecedented employment inertia by recent standards.
3. The “Quits Rate” is at Decade Lows
- Iacurci provides data-driven context:
“The quits rate, basically the rate at which people are voluntarily leaving their jobs for new opportunities, is at lows that we haven't seen in about a decade.” (00:37 - 00:44)
4. Muted Activity from Employers
- Hiring and firing have both slowed:
“Employers are also not hiring so much. The low hire, low fire environment looks like it may roll right into 2026.” (00:47) - The implication is a continued period of low labor market churn, affecting both job seekers and employers’ staffing plans.
5. Where to Stay Informed
- Closing advice from Ettinger:
“Keep up on the labor market. @cnbc.com.” (00:55)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “The great resignation has become the great stay. And what once was job hopping has now become job hugging.”
— Jessica Ettinger (00:09) - “Job hugging is when workers are basically just clinging onto their jobs for dear life.”
— Greg Iacurci (00:21) - “There’s not a lot of churn.”
— Greg Iacurci (00:31) - “The quits rate...is at lows that we haven't seen in about a decade.”
— Greg Iacurci (00:37) - “The low hire, low fire environment looks like it may roll right into 2026.”
— Jessica Ettinger paraphrasing Greg Iacurci (00:47)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 00:03 — Overview of the weakening job market
- 00:09 — “Great Resignation” morphs into “Great Stay”
- 00:21 — “Job hugging” explained
- 00:37 — Quits rate data and historic context
- 00:47 — Prediction of continued low hiring and firing
- 00:55 — Advice to stay informed via CNBC
Tone and Style
The episode maintains CNBC’s signature concise, data-driven style, with a clear, informative tone and quick sound bites designed for rapid consumption and immediate relevance.
