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Zayn
Is those floss pcks empty?
Matt
Why do we have floss pics in there?
Mariah
Well, I thought we were going to have guests, so I just.
Zayn
We have.
Mariah
So I put like mints but I.
Matt
Feel like the guests wouldn't want to go like in there to like pee that next to us. They'd want to go.
Heath
It's like a get ready room.
Matt
I don't know.
Heath
Touch ups.
Matt
You know who has the best get ready room of all time? Remy and Alicia.
Zayn
Oh yeah, I know.
Matt
They kill it pretty basic that. Yeah, there's such insane get ready.
Zayn
But hey, this. Hey, this is cool too.
Matt
It is, it is.
Zayn
This is very homey.
Heath
They have like 10 workers in the room. Also like while you're recording, like there's just like their team is legit.
Matt
Yeah, it's like a national broadcast. Like. Yeah, like every tons of employment going.
Zayn
I know, I know.
Matt
But wait, so those napkins are like a little fidget?
Zayn
Yeah, I actually just bought something from Tick Tock Shop. It was like these beads but. But it's in a. It's in a.
Heath
A rosary bead. No, no, no, no.
Zayn
It's not a rosary bead. But it's, it's, it was like 35 bucks for a. Like it was this big for 35 bucks. But it's like you play with the beads and like you separate it and then they go together.
Matt
Oh, it's not the ones where you pick out beads out of like a pre formed gel setting.
Heath
I don't know.
Zayn
I got. I'll grab it downstairs and I'll show you. But. Yes, that's it right there.
Matt
Oh, $30 for a fidget.
Zayn
Yeah, but it was really nice. I like it. I bought it. Honestly, it' not biting my nails anymore. That was mainly why I got that.
Matt
It's not a choking hazard, right?
Zayn
I don't care.
Heath
It's.
Zayn
I mean there's, there's two other adults that live here.
Matt
I know, but dogs.
Zayn
Oh, well, we don't have dogs.
Matt
Oh, right.
Zayn
You know.
Matt
Okay. How are you doing on your journey? Your journey?
Zayn
I'm on day.
Matt
Nine. Eight. Tell me it has to be more than a week.
Zayn
I started. Was it Tuesday morning?
Matt
So you're on day seven.
Heath
Are we talking about no nicotine or no vape?
Zayn
No vape.
Matt
Day 7. If you started on Monday. If you started Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
Heath
Today's a week.
Zayn
Oh, it's been a week. Yeah. 7. This is my seventh day today with no vape.
Matt
Flew by.
Zayn
It flew by. It's, it's, it's really. I was, I think it's much easier because I was expecting it to be like, like hell on earth. Like I was expecting it to be the worst thing I was ever going to go through, but it's actually much easier than I thought it was going to be. And, and being able to do like a little bit of nicotine gum here, it's, it's, it's been like super, super easy. I've just been really bad with like eating like snacks. Like, I've been snacking a lot because.
Matt
I just need a new fix. Yeah, I saw a box of Twinkies downstairs.
Zayn
No, that's bold.
Matt
I was like, who in the house is getting.
Heath
If you see Twinkies in the house, somebody is going through it.
Zayn
But I've been, my brain has like not been working though. I.
Heath
Oh.
Zayn
Like exhibit, exhibit A. It's. I'm supposed to be doing like, I. People keep telling me to like send in or do this, do that, do call, and I just can't do it. My brain is like inactive right now.
Mariah
It's booting though.
Zayn
Yeah, it's like wiring. It's rewiring itself right now and, and I'm, I'm like going through withdrawals without like realizing it. Like, my body, like, I'll wake up in like the first like four days. I was waking up in sweats every day. I had like crazy, crazy dreams. I'd wake up in like complete. Like was sweating from head to toe.
Mariah
Did you use the bedjet that now's the perfect.
Zayn
Now is the perfect time to use bad jet. It wasn't more I was hot. It was more just like my body was just like.
Mariah
Like I think it'll help like shock your system if you. Yeah. It's like a cold plunge.
Heath
And that was when you completely cut the nicotine. Did two days without nicotine. Like no gum at all.
Zayn
Yeah. So I'm like going back and forth right now. It's like when I really, really need it, I'll take like a little piece of the gum and just.
Heath
Right.
Matt
You gotta be crazy. You're not doing it as just like a ritualist.
Zayn
No, no. When I should be having Definitely not because I'm. I'm doing a. I'm. I'm going from like pretty much 150 milligrams of nicotine down to like 5.
Matt
Yeah.
Zayn
So it's a really big jump. And so in my brain I know that like, oh, I can have this if I absolutely need it. But I'm like, I try not to.
Heath
Yeah. It's good though. Like it. You have kicked the habit of a smoking of ape though like that you're completely good. And I, I talked to Zane the other day. I was like, are you like having any like cravings? And now he's saying when he has like the nicotine craving, he is thinking about the gum first as opposed to being like, where's my vape?
Matt
I'm not craving.
Zayn
So it's like now like when I think about like taking it and taking a hit. It's so disgusting to me. I like, I like, I believe I did that.
Matt
Good.
Zayn
I think we talked about. About this already. But I'll like see other people in restaurants hitting their vaping and it's so embarrassing. I'll look and be like, that's sad. That's disgusting. But I'll pull mine out and I'll do the same exact thing. Not anymore. It's almost like you're seeing a mirror and you're like, wow, this is like really sad and really embarrassing. And it's like, it's. It's like an adult pacifier. It's really.
Matt
Yeah. You feel like a child. You feel really?
Zayn
You feel. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Heath
It's almost like grow up. You want to smoke, have a cigarette.
Matt
Exactly.
Zayn
Cigarettes are just cooler. You know, you just have one or two cigarettes.
Heath
You know, like go for lunch for like one half hour, two half hour.
Matt
Chocolate or Something like a cigarette.
Zayn
One, two cigarette. And then I go back, and then I have another two, three, cigarette. I love.
Matt
I was thinking about you a lot over the weekend. Like, I was about to text you, like, are you still vape for. But I was gonna wait.
Zayn
Oh, yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm. It's been. It's been easy, but, like, it. I did. I did experience drinking.
Heath
Oh, how did that go Saturday?
Zayn
I drank a little bit and it went well, I think. I wasn't craving a vape again. I was. I just wanted a little bit of gum.
Heath
Good.
Matt
Do you think because of your whole, like, fitness journey, knowing the discipline and the grind that that took?
Zayn
Yes.
Matt
Like, mentally, you know, that you accomplished something? You saw the results. You did it. You went over that mountain. This is just another mountain to climb. But because you've done it before that you believe in yourself, you could actually conquer this 100%.
Zayn
Because during the transformation, I was. I was so addicted to, like, eating just sugar and eating candy or chocolate. So I'd have to. I look at it, and then I would have to, like, avoid. I'd be like, I can't, I can't, I can't. So doing that for, like, seven months straight definitely helped me look at a vape and go, like, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't.
Matt
Well, good.
Zayn
Very good. I know.
Matt
Let's run it.
Zayn
Let's run.
Matt
Yeah.
Zayn
Rolla Rolla intro. It's coffee time, baby. Vape Free edition. Welcome back to Zayn and Heath Unfiltered. I'm Zayn.
Heath
I'm Heath.
Matt
I'm Matt.
Mariah
I'm Mariah.
Zayn
And you are experiencing this episode, this vape free. If you're smoking a vape right now, you should be on day seven because you should have started with me last week. So put that vape down and enjoy the episode. One whole hour.
Heath
Don't do it.
Matt
Don't do it.
Zayn
Yeah, No, I don't smoke for now. All of a sudden, he's like, vaping is disgusting. And if you vape, you are a sore loser.
Heath
Z, you are that person, though. Like, that would do something for, like, years and years. And then as soon as you stop, everybody that does it now, you're like, just like.
Zayn
It's really just weird and gross.
Heath
That's crazy.
Zayn
Yeah. Sorry if you. And he's. If you still vape now. Sorry, that's like. That was, like 2020.
Heath
That's so old.
Zayn
So old. And I just feel bad for you and feel sorry for you.
Heath
Like, really grow up.
Zayn
Like, like, go grab a binky. And it's like the same thing. Gaga got your vapey.
Matt
I'm always so fascinated by binkies and how kids get so addicted to them.
Zayn
I get it.
Matt
Or like, and then I. I'm always. I get sucked into tick tocks where they're trying to get their kids, like, break the binky. Like, that's.
Zayn
Oh, my God.
Heath
Of quitting the vape. Trying to get that baby to get off.
Mariah
A baby, like, poke a hole in the binky.
Matt
Yeah, they poke a hole or they cut like, the tip. So when they put it in their mouth, it just doesn't feel the same. And so then they're like, I don't like this anymore because it doesn't feel as good as the last time. But they can't really fully communicate that you cut this right. You did something different. Mom and dad, is it true that.
Heath
Like, the thumb sucking and stuff makes your teeth go forward?
Mariah
I was a th. Sucker.
Matt
It can.
Heath
It makes her, like. Like just the pressure constantly from doing that makes your teeth like.
Mariah
Yeah, it depends on how you're sucking your thumb. Like, a lot of people do it differently. Like, my sister just, like, hung it on the side of her mouth, but I was like, full thumb sucker where it gave me, like, a huge gap.
Heath
Oh, wow.
Mariah
But yeah, a lot of kids, like, their teeth will protrude.
Matt
Just sometimes parents will put, like, Tabasco on their, like, kid's thumb all the time.
Mariah
Oh, my mom chased me around with a knife.
Heath
That'll work too. Yeah.
Mariah
I'll never forget it. Every time she saw me.
Zayn
She going to cut your thumb off.
Mariah
She would run in the kitchen and chase me with a knife.
Heath
We don't use corporal punishment.
Mariah
Guess what I don't do anymore.
Zayn
I suck my. I'm surprised I wasn't a thumb sucker with how much I buy my nails.
Heath
You look like a thumb sucker.
Mariah
You are a condensed milk sucker.
Zayn
Yeah. Give it to me raw. Drip it down my gums. What? Give it to me raw. It was a raw condensed milk.
Heath
It's different time.
Zayn
Yeah. It was straight from the teeth.
Mariah
Enough.
Zayn
I know you guys don't watch it, but we. The newest episode of White Lotus just came out yesterday.
Heath
Okay.
Zayn
And I always. And I. It just hit me yesterday while watching it that that pilot that we did, like, years ago where it was all of us and it was with a riff raff and all that the guy that was also there filming for that pilot was Patrick Haley Joel Osman. Patrick. No, Patrick Schwarzenegger.
Heath
Oh, Oh, I forgot about that.
Zayn
Yeah, he was. He was there. We saw him, like, doing White Lotus.
Matt
Yeah. Yeah. The new season. He's doing a great job.
Zayn
Yeah, yeah. It was like. I think it's his, like, first bit. I mean, he's done roles in the past, but this is, like, a big role.
Matt
He embodies the character very.
Zayn
He's very. Yeah. People are saying that Mike White, like, purposely hired because he's like. It's almost like real life.
Matt
Yeah. I guess, like, kind of is on paper.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
Being Arnold Schwarzenegger's son. Just this privileged kind of rich kid.
Zayn
Yeah.
Heath
How many kids does he have?
Zayn
Oh, yeah, that's him.
Heath
Two sons.
Matt
He has a dog. I think he is. Two. Well, three sons and two daughters. One's married to Chris Pratt. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maria Shriver, right?
Zayn
Maria Shriver.
Matt
They're not together anymore.
Zayn
Who is, like, what did she do? Was she just an actress?
Matt
Isn't she related to the Kennedys or.
Zayn
Why did I always hear her name in the past? Maria Shriver. Maria Shriver.
Matt
I mean, she was Arnold.
Zayn
That's it. But that's it.
Matt
Yeah, I think so.
Zayn
Huh.
Matt
I also think she was like. She comes from, like, a political family.
Zayn
Okay.
Matt
Yeah. Yes. He does a good job in that.
Zayn
Okay, cool. You're going to Hawaii tomorrow.
Heath
I am. We got to get back right after this episode and start packing. We have a very early morning flight. We're going to Honolulu.
Matt
All right.
Heath
We're going to be there for four days. We're going with Canon.
Matt
Oh, that's fun.
Heath
Go shoot some cool content.
Matt
To give you a camera.
Heath
Yes. So they did actually. They gave me the R5 mark two.
Matt
Oh, my gosh.
Heath
And a couple other, like, little, like, vlogging cameras, like the smaller, like, little V10s and things like that. But it's to unveil their new cameras that they're releasing. So they wanted God bless you out there and do, like, some videos and promotion for the new cameras and stuff.
Zayn
Very good. Look at this as, like, a. A pre honeymoon honeymoon, uh, vacation.
Heath
That's exactly what we're thinking because, like, we didn't get to do the honeymoon. So, like, this is, like a destination honeymoon type thing. So. Whoa.
Matt
What?
Heath
I went and set my.
Zayn
Oh, my.
Matt
My.
Heath
My knee kicked.
Zayn
It's. Since you're out there for four days, it's important to, like, know that you don't have to do everything that Kanan's doing. If you want to like it take a day to, like, where you. You spend it.
Heath
The Two of you and just kind of go.
Zayn
Yeah. You don't do, like, everything.
Heath
I'm just so excited to sit by the water and have a pina colada.
Zayn
Oh, that sounds nice.
Heath
I just want that flavor.
Matt
Oh, yeah.
Zayn
Oh, the. The coconut sunscreen flavor.
Heath
Yes.
Zayn
It just makes you feel like you're on a tropical island, you know?
Matt
Honolulu is gorgeous. I've been a Waikiki, which is, like, basically part of.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
Where did we go to Diamond Head. That's like, the beautiful, like, mountain that's right there at the end.
Heath
Okay.
Matt
Waikiki. It's like an easy trail. You go to the top and stuff. But it's stunning views.
Zayn
We went to Maui.
Heath
I.
Zayn
Right. Where did we go?
Mariah
Yeah, we went to Maui.
Zayn
Maui, okay. All I remember was us driving so far to see that one track. Well, we were.
Heath
We were. We tried to go see the black sand.
Zayn
Yeah.
Heath
And we were cutting it so close to go see it. And then having to make our flight that we drove, like, three hours to, like, go get there, and we never made it. So we were like, okay, we gotta turn around. So we didn't even end up doing anything.
Zayn
We drove all the way out there.
Matt
Jonah, like, throwing up or something.
Heath
Jonah got car sick. I think he ate, like, a bad cheeseburger, too.
Zayn
That was a really bad last day. It's just like, nothing happened. And we were just, like, driving the whole time.
Heath
The biggest waste. We also all got injured on that trip. I still have a finger because of that.
Zayn
Yeah, me too.
Matt
Because right here, slam ball, or what's it called? Bike ball.
Heath
I think every single person got injured playing that game. I was injured. Injured, bad.
Matt
Do you guys always. If you go somewhere, like, tropical and you, like, pick up seashells by the seashore, take the seashells home.
Heath
I used to, like, when I was younger, I would want to collect, like, little shells or rocks.
Matt
But I'm always scared of, like, curses, like. Or that you're taking something from. Oh, no, I didn't think about indigenous land and that. Like, it's going to haunt you. That episode of the Brady Bunch where, like, Greg has that, like, tiki necklace and it, like, curses him and stuff. No, I always think, like, things are cursed, so I shouldn't take anything from an island.
Zayn
But I think if it's for good reason. Not a good reason, but, like, as long as you're not, like, stealing something, I feel like they won't haunt you in a negative way.
Matt
Yeah, I guess a seashell is okay. Yeah. A tiny little one maybe, or, like, the little shark.
Zayn
Do you remember? I got you guys. Shark tooth. Shark tooth. Do you still have it?
Mariah
Of course.
Zayn
I need to find mine. I don't know where mine went.
Matt
Mine's in, I think, my computer.
Heath
You know what I just learned and I think it's so interesting. Turkeys don't have teeth, so they collect, like, rocks and pebbles and different, like little tiny stone bits. They keep it in their gizzard and they use that to grind up their food.
Matt
Oh, like in the gobbler.
Heath
So basically it's just this little sack of like, different rocks that polish themselves over time. The more they eat and the more it's like breaking down food. So every turkey from different regions has different little tiny rocks and pebbles in.
Matt
The gobbler in there. That's a fidget. I want to.
Zayn
Can I see.
Heath
So every area is different because of, like, the different rocks that would be naturally in those areas. So I saw this guy who collects different gizzard stones from turkeys that he's killed.
Matt
Gizard stones. That sounds like a bluegrass.
Heath
But there's, there's like, the ones from Florida have like little tiny seashells in it. It's just like a different makeup of rocks that they have in their gizzard.
Matt
Wow.
Heath
It's so fascinating. And I never knew about this, and I was like, that's really, really kind of cool.
Zayn
Imagine that's the only way you eat is you have to collect rocks, put it in your jaw, and you just gotta go. And you have to grind it to get your food to. Oh, my.
Matt
And yeah. What if you accidentally swallowed one?
Zayn
Exactly. But not only that, as a turkey, you have to also be prepared to get your head cut off and be eaten by a human. So like, all your life you're just like using your beak to fill up with pebbles and try to grind up your food and then you get killed one day.
Matt
You know, the turkey was almost our, like, national bird. Like, you know how the bald eagle represents America?
Heath
Yeah.
Matt
It was so close to being a turkey. Being a turkey. I think it was even Benjamin Franklin who was like, hey, guys, I think we should do a turkey. And there was a big debate, there was a big vote on it, and it ended up becoming the bald eagle. But turkey was close second.
Zayn
I wouldn't have minded the turkey being the.
Matt
But just imagine America. It's like America. Fuck yeah. But with the turkey.
Zayn
That'S.
Matt
But then I wonder, if it did become the national symbol of America, would we, like, stop eating turkeys? Cuz, like, no one's killing oh, that's true. Bald eagles. Would they become so sacred where it's like, got to come up with something else for things.
Zayn
Exactly. So Thanksgiving would have just been ham.
Heath
Eating the bald eagles.
Matt
Right. And have we talked about that before? That sometimes turkey legs at festivals are. Hamilton. What I saw, I saw a tick tock and this girl was like, turkey legs. A ham.
Zayn
Turkey legs are ham.
Matt
It's kind of pink, right? It is kind of pink. And she said she was out of a, you know, carnival, renaissance fair or something, and she was eating. It was like, this tastes just like ham. And talk to the guy and he's like, yeah, actually, sometimes, you know, when they run out of turkey legs, they go for ham as the alternative and still call it turkey legs, which is a little like. You got to disclose that because some people are very anti. Hey, you can't eat pork. Pork.
Zayn
Yeah, no, exactly. That's. Wow, that's crazy.
Matt
And then she was like, bringing up photos of, like, how turkey legs look, and you're like, there's no way that this meat is coming from a turkey. But then I saw some other evidence that was like, no, it's really coming from the leg of a turkey. It's just higher up because you think that their legs. It's like flamingos. You're really looking like the leg is higher up than you think. What is down here, if that makes sense.
Zayn
And it just hit me, like, I was thinking turkey legs. Like, turkey legs, like at a Thanksgiving. Like, like at your house. Like a dinner at your house. It just hit me. Turkey legs, like at a. At a theme park.
Heath
Yeah, like the. Like the giant turkey legs.
Zayn
Yeah. That tastes like ham, right?
Matt
So turkey legs are ham. And I'm not saying that's concrete, but next time you're at a carnival, double check and ask and give you that little leg a hard look to see if it is ham or not.
Mariah
Matt, I think that national birthing's a myth.
Zayn
What? Okay, fact.
Heath
There you go.
Matt
Story about Benjamin Franklin wanting the national bird to be a turkey is a myth. A false story began due to a letter Franklin wrote his daughter criticizing the original eagle design for the great seal, saying that it looked more like a turkey.
Zayn
You're wrong.
Matt
Who taught me that? That's clearly not. I was taught that you probably saw.
Zayn
A tick tock or something.
Matt
Actually, I feel like I may have, like, read it on the back of like a cereal box or.
Zayn
You saw.
Matt
Yeah, maybe it was a Reddit thing too.
Zayn
Hold on.
Matt
Oh, speaking of food, did you hear, you know that I Don't know if it's an app, but Klarna, you know, like Clara.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
That's when you're checking out for something, it's going. Instead of paying for it now. Get it in four payments.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
No interest.
Zayn
Yeah. They have it for most things now where you can. Where you can pay in installments of four or three or whatever.
Matt
The latest partnership is with Doordash.
Heath
Like, so people are like, there's no.
Matt
Way credit lending for food, but. So you can be like, oh, yeah, maybe.
Zayn
Well, I mean, for food. I guess it makes sense for, like, companies that are paying to feed a lot of people, like on set, do you think?
Matt
I just think, like, if you're making people, like, pay on credit, like payment plans.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
For buying food, which is like a necessity to, like, it's.
Zayn
It's like a privilege to, like, be able to order. You're saying like it's a privilege to order food through an app?
Heath
No, no, no. It's the fact that they're doing payment installments for a food delivery. Like, you clearly, like, that's just. You just don't do it.
Matt
I. I think it's just. It's a little. Just unethical, sad, dark. I don't know if it's just for credit lending for, like food. I don't know if anything just screams we're in a recession.
Zayn
How's. And does the way Klarna work is that they charge to make money off it. They charge like an extra percent or something.
Matt
Not interest. But if you feel you miss it.
Heath
Then you get crazy interest.
Matt
Oh, yeah.
Heath
It's like interest free for like the.
Zayn
First six months or so they're doing it. Whatever. You know, people are gonna miss that.
Heath
Payment and then they're not gonna make it.
Matt
And then they get hoping that's what they're banking on.
Zayn
Yeah. Hoping for.
Matt
I've been apparently, you know, they're doing this right before they're about to apparently, like, announce their IPO Klarna and stuff. And it's just. It's just a silly thing where I feel like it's the one thing Klarna should not be doing is doordashing. Even though people are gonna be, I guess, leaning into that. But it's sad. Like a family who has no money and is like, like, okay, well, I'll just. We'll get a bunch of food for the family and I'll just. I promise I'll pay it. And it just puts people, I think.
Zayn
What a crazy business to have. Like, the only way we're gonna do well is that we have to hope that people missed our payments. Yeah, that's a crazy.
Matt
That's how a lot of like, lenders are basically.
Mariah
Look at how bad things are right now.
Zayn
Yeah.
Mariah
Like it's food.
Heath
Yeah, that's crazy.
Matt
This new, like, modern twist that they're trying to just figure out and get people.
Heath
It's just to like, like squeeze people for more money just to still paying off.
Matt
Just like a seafood boil that you bought.
Heath
That's crazy.
Matt
I gotta make that payment that one night I ate really good. I just was very hungry.
Zayn
But they did. But you know what? They do make it really, like, appealing. Appealing. Like when you're checking out and you see like small.4 small payments of 3.99 to cover this doordash, it's just like, you know what that does? They make it pretty and purple right above the checkout.
Heath
Let me push it off a little bit.
Matt
Yeah, my wife won't know that. Like, it's just a small payment. She won't see that I spent this big chunk of change I would always do it for.
Zayn
I remember the only time I would ever do the install payments was for whenever I bought anything from Best Buy. They would have that option. Remember that?
Heath
Yeah, I remember I tried to get a Best Buy credit card as my first credit card and I got denied. And I was like, you know what? That made me so mad because they were like, you need to have a like, good credit to get approved for whatever. I was like, I don't have credit. Like, I've never.
Matt
Oh, right.
Heath
It was impossible to get like a first card without having credit history.
Mariah
Yeah. You just had to get lucky with your first credit card. I think mine was Victoria's Secret. I wasn't shocking.
Zayn
They just need like proof that you're paying something. Yeah.
Mariah
Word just got around. Like, I heard Victoria's Secret just handing out credit cards. So I was like, finally, I can get something. So I like bought something, paid it off, and then I was able to start.
Zayn
That's so crazy.
Matt
I remember like, I signed up for like a Macy's credit card. I was like 15. I go, oh, I can save like 100 bucks. Yeah, let's do it. And my. My mom got it mail. She goes, what did you do? You like when they are trying to sell you a credit card in a store, she's like, don't do it. Like, get it just a bank credit card. Like, yeah, it's just being that young and not having credit.
Zayn
So. But how does, like how. How does Macy's like putting out a credit card like that. How does that benefit them and the consumer?
Matt
Like, what's loyalty? So.
Zayn
Oh, just loyalty. They come back and they use.
Matt
Know you're a repeat customer at a certain store and you do have a credit card with that store.
Zayn
Yeah. And you only use that Macy's credit card at Macy's. You don't use it anywhere else.
Matt
You can use it at other places to earn Macy's points. But I would never do that. But if that's. What if Macy's purchases spark you joy? By all means. It's like having an airline credit card. You're using that places.
Zayn
That makes sense. If you travel a lot, it's like a great, great car to have.
Matt
Kind of interesting.
Zayn
I'd get like a door dash credit card because we. We doordash a lot. Post makes a lot.
Heath
I think Venmo has a credit card now too.
Matt
Yes.
Zayn
Oh, yeah, they do. They PayPal had one too. PayPal credit card. Venmo credit card.
Matt
Well, speaking of going out to eat, you know what I just wish at every restaurant was just free refills. Give me a free refill.
Zayn
I think most of them do, right?
Matt
But there's nothing worse. When you're at a restaurant and you're sitting there, you're like, you. I'm. Have a Coke, please. And they go, and they bring you.
Heath
A can, and you.
Matt
And you see it from across the room and they're bringing out that can or, you know, get the bottle, and.
Heath
You'Re like, well, so mad.
Matt
And you just know every time.
Heath
That's so funny.
Matt
Haven't even got the fucking food. We're doing. We're doing chips and salsa. And of course I'm gonna finish that Coke first, and then I know I'm gonna have it for every course, Matt.
Heath
And it's great, too. They'll bring you the small little bottle, you know, the glass bottle, but the small. They'll bring that. And I'll just be like, absolutely.
Zayn
It's those fancy restaurants. They fucking. They'll bring out the little Coke and they'll charge you $8.
Heath
The Mexican restaurant we went to for your birthday, I ordered a Diet Coke there and they brought it out. And I was like, there's no way.
Matt
And I know damn well that the bartender over there has full Coke on tap because he has to be making drinks with, you know, Sprite, Coke, all of that. Why can't we just use that same system and not give me. I die on the inside every time I see that waiter bringing Up. I'm like.
Zayn
And you realize how little a can actually holds at a restaurant like that. When they bring out the can, you fill up your water, your cup. You're like, oh, wow. I drink four of these every time I'm out at a restaurant.
Matt
Really bad refills. I want free refills at every establishment.
Zayn
I just want a Chili's right now.
Matt
Oh, yeah. Oh, that cheese pull with that new mozzarella stick has been looking pretty good.
Zayn
So what?
Matt
The cheese pull?
Zayn
The cheese pull.
Matt
You get like, a mozzarella when this cheese stretches.
Heath
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Zayn
I'm sorry.
Matt
It might be a cheese pull. Yeah.
Zayn
Damn.
Matt
That one at Chili's looks pretty damn good right now.
Zayn
You know what? Chili should start serving. And I know it's like, it's. It's not the point Chili's, but they should start serving, like, pizza. I feel like they have really good pizza.
Matt
Maybe.
Heath
I think that's.
Zayn
I don't know. I think it's a great idea.
Matt
I gotta see what type of pizza it is because there's so many different.
Zayn
If it tastes like a 711 pizza, they're gonna be very successful.
Heath
I would have had the same reaction if you would have been like, chili should start serving baby back ribs. I would have been like, no, But.
Matt
Chili's does have baby backgrounds. I want my baby back, baby.
Heath
But if Zayn would have pitched that idea before they did it, I would have been like, I don't think that's a good idea. But they are good.
Matt
They are.
Heath
So you know what? Maybe they would have.
Matt
Good. Because pizza bread could work better. Like.
Zayn
Like a boat. Like. Like a cheesy boat.
Matt
Just a cheesy pizza bread.
Zayn
Before doing.
Matt
Turning the place into a pizza restaurant.
Zayn
No, no, no, no, no.
Mariah
Actually, flatbread.
Heath
Yes.
Zayn
I like that. Like a little bruschetta moment.
Matt
Yes. I think that would kind of Bruscotta. What was one of the big fast food restaurants in, like, the 80s? They were doing weird back then in the 80s, but I think it was. It was either McDonald's, Burger King, or Wendy's. One of them had pizza. They did was.
Zayn
You're one of the three.
Matt
One of the three. And they had a whole, like, salad bar pizza thing. There was, like, spaghetti, Mexican pizza. I can't remember. Did McDonald's do a pizza then? It had to have been Wendy's or Burger.
Zayn
They did.
Matt
Oh, McDonald's did a pizza. They did.
Zayn
I do not remember that.
Matt
It was. Dude, it was before our time, before we would even remember.
Zayn
Really?
Matt
Yeah.
Heath
Interesting.
Zayn
Well, you know that tastes loud. The Mickey Pizza.
Heath
I would have done it.
Zayn
No, no, no, no, no.
Heath
That looks, I would have done it. The box looks pretty too.
Zayn
You know what triggers me? Every, it triggers me in like a positive way. Every time I see a Pizza Hut Express. The moment I see a Pizza Hut Express, immediately my body sends it to shivers and I have to go buy a pizza. I.
Matt
The little frozen one, the mini one is kind of nice. The mini one, the mini one.
Zayn
That's how they serve it. It's a mini Pizza Hut Express.
Matt
The secret, just with yourself, Mariah, you.
Zayn
Don'T, don't knock it. So you try it. I know, it looks terrible.
Heath
Open that little box.
Zayn
Yeah.
Mariah
It sent shivers down my spine too.
Zayn
And right. They always cut it like this. It's never, it's never symmetrical, the slices. You always get one that's this big.
Matt
It's good at like a skating rink too. Yes. Like a bowling alley.
Zayn
They used to have them at every target. They'd have. Every target had a Pizza Hot Express.
Heath
We would get that and we'd also get an icy. The Blueberry Ice. The Blue Raz icy.
Zayn
Yeah, I know. Jordan's salivating. He. It's hitting his nerves. I see, look. I see Jordan.
Matt
You remember sometimes it's already like hot and ready to go and it's under the lamp. So you're like, you don't even need to do much. Just give me that over there and I'm out the door.
Zayn
Exactly, exactly. And there was something about it. And then I always get the breadsticks with it and extra marinara sauce. And the marinara sauce was hot.
Heath
I will, I will die on this hill. Caesars had the best crazy bread.
Matt
They still do.
Heath
Like better than other like major pizza chains and like sit down restaurants.
Matt
I have no problem with Little Caesars. I don't, I don't order it that much because I just worry about judgment of others. Like it's really hard to get like everybody on board. Like guys, a Little Caesars you don't want.
Zayn
It's very hard to get people on Little Caesars Train. Like if you're like if you're feeding for it for one night, it's really hard to get.
Matt
But if someone ordered Little Caesars, I'm like, woo, Caesars, baby.
Zayn
This is fun.
Matt
I got no issue with it. I got no issue.
Zayn
That's what we would do for in Florida. It was like either Little Caesars Hungry how, Remember that? Hungry how hungry? It was like Costco pizza. It was great.
Matt
Yes. Hungry how it's crazy.
Heath
My entire childhood, like, us going to get pizza was always Little Caesars. Always. It was always Little Caesars.
Zayn
Hell, no.
Heath
That blue pizza.
Zayn
What the hell is that?
Matt
I don't know. That looks like Mardi Gras. It looks like a king cake.
Zayn
Oh, you eat that like, you know. Oh, my God. Wait. That kind of. Kind of sucked, though.
Matt
I would try it. I'd have a bite.
Mariah
The crust looks like cement, like concrete.
Matt
Yeah.
Zayn
No, they had good pizza. It was very cheap. Very, very cheap. And.
Mariah
No, we believe you.
Zayn
It was, like, seven bucks for a pie.
Mariah
I could tell.
Heath
It was crazy.
Matt
Yeah. We get at Michigan. We I with hungry house.
Zayn
No, no, it was good.
Matt
But I. The one I'm always like, what is going on here? Is Hunt's Brothers. Like, you'll pull up at a gas station. It's like, we got Hunts Brothers pieces.
Heath
Yeah.
Matt
I can't even picture, but it's like, I've never seen Hunt's Brothers as its own establishment. It's like a gas station that is cooking up Hunts Brothers.
Zayn
I've never seen this brand.
Mariah
I've never heard of any of these.
Matt
Keep your eyes peeled. Next time you're on a road trip, you'll Hunts Brothers.
Zayn
Okay.
Heath
In Tennessee, that's what my parents get for pizza. It's at the gas station. It's like, the only pizza that you can get.
Zayn
Your parents are gas station meal eaters?
Heath
Well, for pizza. It's the only pizza that they can get, like, anywhere near them.
Zayn
This is the only pizza that, like, in a gas station.
Heath
Yeah.
Zayn
Damn.
Matt
They clearly have some type of partnership.
Heath
But also. Yeah, like, out there in, like, Tennessee and, like, places like that, like, their gas stations have, like, restaurant in it.
Matt
Yes.
Heath
Like, you.
Zayn
I know that.
Heath
I've actual, like, really good food. Like, there's a burger joint that everybody goes to at this gas station that's, like. It's just good food.
Zayn
Yeah.
Heath
Also, I feel like it's kind of a thing out here, too. There's a gas station by me that's got, like, a full taco restaurant inside of it. Like.
Matt
Yeah. They lean more into being like, a mart.
Heath
Like, then everybody wants to be Bucky's, you know, or a Wawa.
Zayn
I would love to see a Denny's and gas station, like, collab type.
Heath
It'd be fun.
Matt
I would say, like, the Denny's is, like, adjacent to a gas station, a parking lot. Like, you fill up your car and you can walk to a dentist, to a Dennis.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
It's in.
Zayn
When's the last time you went to a Denny's? Have you been to a Denny's recently?
Matt
I've been to one in the past, like five years for sure.
Zayn
How was it? The food? Good. Still?
Matt
Yeah, it was all right. It was all right. You can't go wrong with a grand slam breakfast.
Zayn
I don't know what it is. I always gravitate towards IHOP more than a Denny's.
Matt
Ihop. IHOP is like better seats. I think they have better seats.
Heath
Are so expensive.
Zayn
Ihop.
Heath
Yes, expensive.
Zayn
How much is there for.
Heath
For what it is like, compared to like Denny's prices? IHOP is very expensive.
Zayn
You gotta go hot chocolate. Also they got.
Heath
I read that just the value meal at Denny's is so much better.
Matt
True.
Heath
Like you get those eggs in a basket.
Matt
Oh yeah.
Heath
I love me a little egg in a basket.
Zayn
What's egg? What's an egg in a basket? Like a.
Heath
It's like hard boiled eggs. Like a piece of toast and then they cut a circle out of the center of it and then they crack an egg into it.
Zayn
That's a scam, literally. Just get eggs with a side of bread, you're losing more, you're losing food. They give it to you, they give.
Heath
It to you on the side. They're like, no, people will be pissed if we don't give them this.
Zayn
Like, how can we save food? How can we save food?
Mariah
I had this all the time for breakfast. My mom would make us this and it's so fun.
Heath
So yeah, it's fun.
Zayn
It's not good. It's just.
Matt
You can make it in an air fryer.
Mariah
Anybody? Yeah, you just take a cup and you cut out a circle.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
Makes the presentation very nice.
Zayn
Yeah, I get it.
Heath
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Matt
Do bank robberies still happen like your.
Mariah
Typical, like I think more ATM robberies now?
Heath
We just had an ATM robbery down the street from us.
Mariah
We did at the target saying like.
Matt
Someone'S going up to an ATM and they get robbed during bring the transaction. What?
Heath
They blew it up.
Matt
They blew it in front of it off. Oh, ripped it off. Take it home.
Mariah
But I think are the new bank robbery.
Matt
But aren't the trackers on that?
Heath
Yeah, people are stupid.
Zayn
How much, how much is you, how much do you think are inside ATMs?
Heath
That's the most at one time. Maybe like $5,000.
Zayn
That's it.
Matt
Probably how much cash is typically in an ATM inside of it?
Zayn
Got it.
Mariah
Faster. 10,000, 20,000.
Matt
Oh, 10,020.
Zayn
That's, that's not worth it.
Matt
Paranoia like that CA is going to go fast.
Zayn
Yeah. Like if I'm, if I'm robbing an atm, I'm, I'm walking, I'm walking away with half a mil, you know.
Matt
Yeah. If I'm going to risk it.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
Then I'm just fascinated by like bank robberies because well like I feel like in the 80s and 90s they're like in every film it's like get down on the ground. Give us all the cash. Where is it? And then there's also the different types of approaches where you just go in and you hand them a note and it's like give me all the money and I'm not going to make a fuss and I'll be right out the door. And then they give them the money and then they let them go.
Zayn
But.
Matt
But.
Zayn
And it's crazy how easy it was back then, like, how easy it was to get away with it because there was just no cameras. There was no, like, way to track anybody leaving the.
Matt
Oh, yeah. And bank robberies, like, in the late 80s, early 90s in LA were crazy. The amount that were going on, I was reading.
Zayn
Because they'd get away with it.
Matt
Yeah. Malcolm Gladwell's book, the Tipping Point, there's this whole thing where these guys will. They were able. They pulled off nine bank robberies in Los Angeles in four hours, which is.
Heath
Wow.
Zayn
But one, like, where they separated, they.
Matt
Had, like, basically these guys got a bunch of other guys, like, rob the banks for them. And I think they made all the guys, like, kind of wear the same thing. And it kept confusing the cops of, like, where this guy was going, because then they were, like, focusing on one bank robbery, and they're like, no, the guy with the Yankee cap is now in this one. No, he's in this one. And they had never had any time. And it was this whole cat and mouse thing. And they, like, successfully pulled the whole heist off a bank robbing.
Zayn
That's insane.
Mariah
Wow. Los Angeles area bank robberies peaked in 1992 with 2600 incidences, and they decreased since then with 67 robberies in 2023.
Heath
That's a lot.
Matt
That's. Ton is right. So it's like, damn, like, I bet popular bank robbery stories. That's the thing is I'd be so pissed. Well, if I'm in a bank robbery situation, it's just like, everyone, get down on the ground. Let it pass. I just don't want to get held up here where I'm like, I had stuff to do today.
Zayn
Exactly.
Matt
Erin. I needed to go to the bank to do. I don't want to be held hostage for another six hours.
Zayn
But, like, imagine in that situation, like, look, just let me go. I will not say that you're in here. I really, really need to get something done right now. Can you just let me go?
Matt
And the worst I heard about, like, the reason why they went up really high because the worst thing the press did was report how much money was stolen and how much money was stolen in bank. Bank robbery was $400,000. So everybody, all the criminals were like, they got $400,000 for robbing that bank. We should pull.
Heath
They're calling up their boys like, yo, let's get together.
Matt
Let's buy some masks. And you in this down. And I've always wanted to Know if you know in that movie Good Time with Robert Pattinson, that brothers one where they do this silent. They put on the really skin realistic face. They give the note, put the money in the back bag will be out the door. They take the money. They then get in their getaway car and they're driving and then poof.
Heath
Oh yeah.
Matt
Blue powder everywhere. So then you become immediately like traceable or identified to who got it. But I'm like one. Does that technology exist?
Zayn
It does. Yeah. And that money, people know that money. You're not able to like, how do you get away with that?
Matt
It's die pack.
Zayn
It's stained. But like you, it's not used like you, you. They won't accept it. Banks won't accept that cash. Right. Like how does that work?
Matt
Probably that's exactly how it works. It's impossible to wipe off and it become. The money becomes useless.
Zayn
But like different businesses will probably take it. Right. If it's not like too.
Matt
I bet somebody would try to figure it out and get it off your hands for sure.
Zayn
Yeah.
Heath
I think, I think it's more to trace where it got like where it went.
Matt
Right?
Zayn
Yeah.
Heath
So if this guy then goes like, okay, I go to like use it or like, like put the money in a b. Like you can't like really do anything with it without drawing attention to it.
Zayn
Exactly. And but like as. Do you think as like a. Like for instance a gas station owner, if he saw that money in his head, would he go this like the amount of die that's.
Heath
I wouldn't want to accept it.
Matt
Yeah.
Heath
Of course they like a fully like blue hundred.
Zayn
You wouldn't accept it. But like, is that something you would even like call in like, hey, I just received money. It has blue powder all on the. I don't know. Is that like something people would keep an eye out for?
Matt
Probably.
Heath
What I wish. I wish I could have been around during like the wild, wild west bank robberies. Because that. That's different. If I was born during that time, I100 would have loved to be like the outlaw bank robber. Just like you're on a horse.
Zayn
Why can't I even picture a wild west bank robbery?
Heath
Sack of money? Like, like.
Matt
Yeah, they're shoot. They're shooting guns off, celebrating.
Heath
Horse goes up in the air. You're leaning back.
Matt
Don't try to be a hero. I'm running this town. Bang, bang, bang.
Mariah
They got like a bar of soap and a sock.
Zayn
Yes.
Matt
A pool ball. Yeah.
Mariah
Knocking everyone out down the.
Zayn
That wouldn't even really? Like a wild west bank like that how?
Matt
Oh, yeah. Just give me all the money in the vault.
Zayn
You would just need security everywhere.
Matt
It's just gold. Gold bars.
Heath
I just found out recently, like, within the past year, that my dad is related to this famous wild west bank.
Matt
Robbing trio of brothers kissing Kate Barlow.
Zayn
Yeah, right.
Heath
I forget their names, but it's like the Something brothers. And it's my grandma's cousins.
Matt
Wow. Did they get caught? Did they ever go down? They did.
Zayn
The Dalton brothers.
Heath
Brothers. That's. That's like my great cousins. Oh, there's like, movies about him too.
Matt
I think my criminal dream would not be robbing a bank, but it would be escaping jail. Like, because I don't feel like anyone's really being harmed. I'm not putting a gun in anyone's face saying, give me. I'm just trying to be as clever as I can and figuring out how to escape.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
Knowing when this shifts are getting moved, when there's the light down at the end of the hallway and when it flickers, getting into the depths of the night.
Zayn
You know that scene that they always saw every bank robbery movie they filmed the scene where they all get in the car and they're leaving and they're like. Like that rush that they get leaving a bank with the money. They. They all film it exactly the same. They pit. Pull off their mask and they're like, freaking, wow. The rush. Oh, it's such a funny scene that they all felt.
Heath
I don't think we'll ever feel that excitement. Like, what that feels like.
Zayn
I. I feel like I can. Like, I can feel that.
Matt
Wait, wait. The excitement that you got away with something.
Zayn
Yeah.
Heath
You get away with feeling of running out with, like, a million dollars cash from a bank robbery that you just held up, like. And now you're in the getaway car fleeing the scene.
Zayn
You probably feel really good because you didn't hurt. You didn't hurt anybody, but you're able to leave the bank.
Heath
Feels like. Like you're saying that.
Zayn
Yeah. Wow.
Matt
Oh, my rush in my high would be like the end of Shawshank Redemption where he breaks out of jail and he gets in. I feel like he steals, like, banknotes or money from, like, the corrupt Warren. And then he meets up with Morgan Freeman at the end, and they're on the beach together and they're just best friends reunited and they finally have their freedom. That's. That's what I want. Just that scene where they see each other on the beach. We're. I don't know, that's my high of like, gosh, I got out of the jail, I need something. I'm just wrongfully there for. And I have my freedom and a bunch of money in my pocket. That's pretty nice. And what was I thinking about? Yeah, just escaping. Just chiseling out a wall. Like escape about, you know, Alcatraz. Have you ever been there?
Heath
It's the island.
Matt
It's the island that's all in outside of San Francisco. But like, how many people tried to escape Alcatraz? Because the body of water, when you.
Heath
Look at it, it doesn't look that bad, right?
Matt
No. You think you could fucking swim it. But everybody like who has tried to swam it drowned. But every year, apparently though professional swimmers can do it. Oh, I think they do like a big kind of not triathlon thing, but a swimming competition.
Zayn
You know, like they drown. They can't even.
Matt
They even make no prisoners back then. Because that's the thing about Alcatraz. You are looking and you can hear the nightlife of San Francisco from that.
Heath
Jail when you're look that far away, like. But then probably when you're in the water and you're actually swimming it, it's probably insane to try to cramp up.
Matt
Yeah.
Zayn
If you got like handcuffs and.
Matt
Yeah. Because you're not swimming at jail. You've been in there for like three years. You haven't swam in years. And then.
Zayn
Yeah, but that's true.
Matt
That's what some prisoners did was that they stole a bunch of tarp from like rain jackets and then over the course of months. Months. Sewed those all together, made like an inflatable raft and tried to use that. And I think they drowned.
Heath
Look up how far the swim is like to swim to the alcohol.
Matt
But it's hard because also occurrence Bay of San Francisco. So there is like, it's not still water.
Zayn
You would just assume that it's going. It's going to the side one way. Like I don't think it's going up or down.
Matt
You would know an angle to like at least get yourself.
Zayn
Exactly.
Matt
But it's so tempting. Okay.
Heath
1.25 miles.
Zayn
Dan, that's a, that's. That's four to swim.
Heath
I would not want us.
Matt
Well, because like one mile is like if you did, it's a hundred meter relay.
Zayn
Yes.
Matt
Isn't 1 mile 400 meters and you're probably.
Zayn
And you're escaping.
Matt
I'm wrong.
Heath
I don't think so.
Matt
No, I'm wrong. So that's like swimming a racetrack four times right.
Heath
A lot.
Matt
Or 50 meter relay. Like Olympic size swimming pool. Going back four times is one mile. Mile.
Zayn
Right, sure.
Matt
100 meters there. Wait, wait. I'm so dumb. No, it's not.
Zayn
It's just, it's just a, a mile and a quarter. That's it. And then also you're thinking about when are you escaping? You're escaping at night, right? Most likely escaping at night and at night is like the winds are probably even the current is crazier.
Matt
Yeah.
Zayn
You gotta worry about sharks.
Matt
Sharks.
Heath
I think it is shark infested.
Matt
You think so?
Heath
I think so.
Zayn
Not far into. Not by shore, but like by the island.
Heath
I'm sure great white sharks have been observed in the waters near Alcatraz.
Zayn
There's no record of a shark attack on humans in the bay. The real dangers are the cold water.
Matt
That's the scariest thing about. Once you get bit by a shark, your body just goes into complete shock.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
Like you can't, like you can't think, oh, my arm's off, I gotta keep swimming and get out of it. You're just like, like, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. And then you just get bit again and then you're just like pet. Then you pass out like hell. No, I couldn't, I couldn't imagine.
Heath
I don't like that.
Matt
No, I like it.
Heath
I like it.
Matt
Don't kill it in the water. That's the shark's house.
Zayn
Yeah. Honestly, shark's house.
Matt
I don't mind taking a.
Zayn
Can you eat shark? Do people eat shark?
Matt
Shark fin soup.
Zayn
Like shark soup. Oh yeah.
Matt
But I don't know, I feel like it's like a little in here.
Zayn
Humane or inhumane? They eat us.
Matt
True.
Zayn
Why can we eat them?
Matt
I don't know. They're a big predator. You got to support the ecosystem.
Zayn
Like a shark sushi. Shark sushi.
Heath
Sushi.
Zayn
Shark sushi would be good.
Matt
Did you know that like if you're an actor and you like suddenly start getting famous, you can't like share the name of another like big actor.
Zayn
So what do you mean?
Matt
Like Michael B. Jordan is. Can't go by Michael Jordan. Katy Perry used to go by Katie Hudson when she first started. But because of Kate Hudson, she had to change her name to Katy Perry.
Zayn
Oh, if someone's famous before you with that name, you have to change it.
Matt
You have to change it.
Zayn
Makes sense because like I'm sure their name is like trademarked or they like confusing.
Matt
Yeah, it's like the whole like actors union. Like you can't be like credited as like the same name as somebody else in like acting world. And even like Michael Keaton. His real name is Michael Douglas, but because of the actor Michael Douglas, he couldn't go by that. So he just went down like a phone book and you have to give them three alternatives for them to pick. Yeah, like, I guess you type it in and see if it works or not. So Michael Keaton was just going on the phone book and saw Michael Keaton and said, okay, I'll go by Michael Keaton.
Zayn
Wow.
Matt
So some Michael Keaton's out there and Michael Keaton took his name because he just needed a unique name. Michael J. Fox, he's another one as well. I just thought that is interesting. I feel like you guys, you have pretty independent names.
Zayn
Oh, yeah. I mean, nobody's. No actor will have.
Matt
But for me, there's that English actor who has Matt King. I feel like if I got new.
Zayn
Oh, yeah, you'll have to change my name.
Matt
But I mean, Matthew.
Zayn
But you, you. You're already of status with your name, though. All these years. I feel like it'd be hard for you to change it.
Matt
I'd be an exemption.
Zayn
I think you'd be an exemption because what other. You said there's. There's a Mac King out there that's an actor. Yeah, big actor.
Matt
He's a British comedian. Like, he's been in, like.
Zayn
But. But how long has he been doing this for?
Matt
Long. Longer than me.
Zayn
Longer than you.
Matt
He's 55. Like, if you google Matt King, usually he comes up before. Yeah, him.
Zayn
Oh.
Matt
But it's always a combo of the both of us.
Zayn
Well, you have two pictures. He has one. So I don't know.
Matt
I feel like Shannon Ford's podcast is linked.
Zayn
All right, Matt, Matt. Look, he's 57. You just gotta just pray he.
Matt
Oh, yeah. So if they die off, do you still get like.
Zayn
Yeah, they die off and then you take his name. His name.
Matt
I'm just so curious if he knows who I am, but he probably does.
Zayn
I mean, he's definitely seen your face. He typed. I'm sure he's typed his name in and seen you and like, who the is this guy?
Matt
So I would just go by Matt Ryan King, I guess.
Zayn
No, just Matt Ryan.
Matt
Matthew King.
Heath
Matt Ryan.
Zayn
Matt Ryan. Sounds good.
Matt
That's a football player, though.
Heath
Oh, there's always somebody.
Zayn
King. Matt King.
Matt
Matt. Really switch it up.
Zayn
Yeah, yeah.
Matt
Give myself that notability already.
Zayn
Or just do Maddie K. K. Maddie.
Heath
K. Maddie K. Maddy K. Raps.
Matt
How is Maddie B. Doing? Maddie B Raps.
Zayn
I think he's great.
Heath
I haven't seen an update on him.
Mariah
Probably actually does a lot of content with his sister. It's really cute. Hold on.
Zayn
That is not him.
Mariah
That's Maddie.
Matt
B.
Mariah
What do you mean?
Zayn
Oh my God.
Matt
Speaking of like passing away, I hate it where when you pull up Tick Tock and you go to search, they have like trending topics and it's always like some celebrity who's passed away and they're not dead.
Zayn
What do you mean?
Heath
Fake tick tocks of people that passed away all the time.
Matt
I think they need to crack down on it because I don't like it. Like you know when you go to the search bar and it has just like recent. It could be like your recent searches but like trending.
Heath
It's in red.
Matt
It's in red and it has the little stock market symbol kind of thing going up. Today it was like Joe Gado dead. And I'm like, what?
Zayn
Joe Gato passed away?
Matt
Yeah, right. Yours says that right now. But he's not. He's getting canceled right now. But.
Zayn
Oh, okay. So it's.
Matt
But they do it. They did it for Joshua Block, the little world of T shirts kid the other day. And I'm like, can Tick Tock just figure out if suddenly it's trending and someone's passed away? Can one person at the office just verify that it's not dead and that is a trending topic?
Zayn
It's only because it just seems like real. It's like just the fact that it's right there in search but this trending for years.
Matt
And I'm so surprised no one at Tick Tock is like, yeah, I'm surprised.
Zayn
You know what? I'm surprised. I never like noticed that 23andMe files for bankruptcy. Bankruptcy?
Matt
No. Oh, really?
Zayn
I don't know.
Matt
Well, I guess it's kind of a one time thing. Once you do 23andMe, you're not going to be paying for anything more. You have to trust that more people.
Zayn
That's true. But apparently didn't. Wasn't there a thing. They're selling the data but that's that Everybody does that.
Heath
You know what pisses me off? How much Ancestry.com is and that you have to pay monthly on it.
Matt
Yeah.
Heath
And then your family disappears.
Matt
It's still there.
Heath
Yeah, but you can't like doing it.
Matt
Like you like you just download it all in that one time.
Heath
But I know, but like it should be a one time payment. Let me pay 25 bucks and like make my Account and let me just have access to it.
Matt
Is it Ancestry.com owned by the Mormon Church?
Heath
I don't know.
Matt
I know that the Mormons were fantastic about keeping all of like the genealogy records, like historically, but I think they do partially own it. But that, yeah, Ancestry.com, come on, to figure out your own history is a little like, I think anyone's entitled to that.
Heath
Let me just like, like one time payment.
Mariah
That's for my parents anniversary. Me and my siblings were bringing a genealogist to the house for any unanswered questions that they have.
Matt
Oh, cool.
Zayn
A genial. A genealogist.
Matt
Like a someone who specializes family history and stuff.
Heath
Like you can, you can hire somebody to like tell you and do a deep, deep dive on your family.
Zayn
Same thing. I, I, I never asked them, but same with my dad. My dad was the only one out of like, like his entire family that like moved to America. He was like 18 or something.
Heath
Find out like, why, like what?
Zayn
Oh, I will now.
Matt
I just want to know I'm related to that. I also may know. You know how they have these celebrity shows where they trace down their ancestry and they sit down and they let Ashley Tisdale know that she's related to Austin Butler? Yeah, yeah. Okay. That would be really fun if we found that out. Why can't ancestry just do a little tap, tap thing and just, just bloop, bloop, say all the connections. I don't get why it's held to just these astute people. Yeah, do it maybe. But then, I don't know, who knows?
Zayn
Maybe we can get it. We just have to.
Heath
They probably had a genealogist, like professional person. Do it.
Matt
Do it.
Heath
We should do that. Actually. That's a good idea.
Zayn
That is a really good, like have.
Heath
Have somebody do it for each of us.
Zayn
Who do you think would have the most famous person attached to them?
Heath
Danielle Vergoli.
Zayn
Yeah. No, it could be someone bigger than that. That's someone we know. But imagine someone we don't know.
Heath
Know, like. No, I, I, what I think is cool, like people like from decades ago.
Zayn
That's what I'm saying.
Heath
Yeah, you're related to George Washington or something like that would be cool.
Zayn
That'd be crazy.
Matt
So sick. That would be really badass to find out.
Zayn
How much, how much would that cost.
Heath
You'Re related to, like really get that information.
Matt
How old do you have like really old photos of like 1900s of your families? Of course. It's crazy. We have one like in our house of them just like at their Farm. You know, they're just doing stairs. And it's the original photograph, and it's just wild that it's hung up. Have we talked about this?
Heath
I don't think so.
Matt
It's wild. Like, little do they know in the year, 125 years later, they. Their picture still hung up on a wall, and you're not forgotten in the box. But now our kids are 125 years now. Like, we're gonna be like. It's like, the least noble, like, great picture ever.
Zayn
The mirror. The Mirror song is like, you guys are taking mirror, mirror pictures.
Matt
Yeah. Yeah.
Zayn
It's so embarrassing. So embarrassing.
Heath
It's also interesting to think about the fact that, like, they all look like that and they're so, like, serious because they had to stay in that position for so long for the photo to take.
Matt
Yeah.
Heath
I always thought it was just, like, they were different, like, just didn't have fun. I always saw the photos. I'm like, damn, they look miserable.
Matt
Just like lead poison.
Heath
But, like, they had to just, like. Like.
Mariah
And cameras.
Matt
I. I know I could at least hold a smile, though, for I think.
Heath
I love seeing footage from, like, early 1900s.
Matt
Have you guys seen that movie that came out recently with, like, Tom Hanks and Robin Wright? And it's called Here, but the whole movie takes place in just, like, kind of a living room, but over the course of, like, hundreds of years, like, it's. It's really beautiful, but the gim. It's. I'll say some of it, you're like, this is a little too on the nose, but it's really beautiful because it starts with a piece of land, the Ice age everything. And then Native Americans and then the colonial days and Benjamin Franklin moving across street. And then the house gets built, and you see a couple that lived in it, and the 1920s, you see a couple that lives in the 40s, and then it's the 50s.
Zayn
This is one movie.
Matt
Yes.
Mariah
This is new.
Matt
Yeah, it's on Netflix.
Mariah
How does he look? So young.
Matt
The CGI that they do for their faces where Tom hanks is, like, 18 years old and Robin Wright is 18. It's incredibly impressive.
Mariah
Oh, my God.
Matt
The whole thing kind of feels like a big kind of Hallmark commercial. So I wouldn't say it's like, a masterpiece, but it's really beautiful. Just seeing it all takes place. Mariah, you would actually love this movie.
Heath
He looks so young because it.
Matt
It, like, hops around where it's like Christmas in the 50s, and then it's like Christmas in the 80s. And then it's like.
Zayn
And they hit it on the. They. They hit it on the nose with, like, all this. Like, all these time.
Matt
Yes. The story is just like, how beautiful. We're all experiencing life in an ever changing, changing spot in time. Like, obviously, that was my grandma's house.
Zayn
When I was a kid. Oh.
Matt
The whole movie is this angle. It does not change, but it moves around throughout it. Over. What do you mean the angle doesn't move the entire movie?
Heath
It's one steady shot.
Matt
Steady shot. How long is like an hour and a half.
Zayn
But that's wild.
Matt
They do this really kind of cool way of cutting into. They'll show a frame of maybe this we're about to go into the future. Maybe we're going into the past. And they start clipping it in and they do some creative choices in it to where it doesn't feel too fatiguing.
Zayn
Can we watch the trailer? Is that something you watch the trailer for?
Matt
Sure. You can watch the trailer. I don't know if we get flagged.
Zayn
Well, no, no, I'm not saying now. I'm saying, like.
Matt
Yeah, Yeah. I remember seeing trailers for it in the theaters, and I was like, that looks really cool. I don't know if I would enjoy that that much in a theater. It's kind of nice to, like, have on. But it's the same director as the guy did Forrest Gump, so that's why he has Tom Hanks and Robin Wright, like, back in it.
Heath
It.
Matt
And it's just cool. You know, you love old houses. The people who used to live in it before.
Mariah
Yeah.
Matt
This. That's really brings that type of vision to life of, like, all the lives that are lived in the same space and time and what is a home and are.
Zayn
I just can't believe they, like. They're. They're like, let's. We're gonna do one angle and the whole movie, one angle.
Matt
It's such.
Zayn
It's such a risky move.
Matt
It is.
Zayn
It's such a risk.
Matt
And it kind of bombed. It has mixed reviews because people just.
Zayn
Feel like it's not gonna be a perfect movie again. It's, like, filmed in one angle.
Matt
I view it more as, like, a piece of art. Like.
Zayn
Exactly.
Matt
Entertainment Ride. But if you're. If you fuck with the concept, you'll be so hooked by watching it all unfold.
Zayn
There's a. There's a show that just came on Netflix called Adolescence. Every episode is filmed one take. Oh, every episode.
Heath
Okay.
Zayn
In the season is filmed in one take. Like, the Hour episode.
Matt
Visually, you can tell kind of maybe like they will cut it if it passes through a doorway.
Zayn
But it's pretty much one take in the whole.
Matt
The whole show. Just to give you the skinny. It's about like this little kid who's being accused of murder. Murder. And his parents are like, did you or did you not do it? And it just is all unfolding, but.
Zayn
They'Re in like different locations. And it's. It's a one take.
Matt
And because it's one take, like it doesn't cut to you saying something in her. It's like kind of back and forth and you feel like you're watching something you shouldn't.
Zayn
Like a live. Yeah.
Matt
So intimate with it. It's. I'm only on episode two or three. Yeah.
Zayn
And dude, it's so like imagine filming for 45 minutes and then they up someone up a line and like, all right, take one. And they have to start all over again. Like you have to. It has to be perfect.
Matt
And the creation.
Heath
What was that one war movie?
Matt
Seventeen.
Heath
It's like that.
Matt
Yeah.
Heath
It's filmed like that. Yeah.
Matt
Not as epic.
Zayn
Not. And not every. It's not one take. The whole. It's a very long.
Matt
It's a murder crime drama. Like a lot of interrogations and scenes like that. Yeah. But. Oh, in very eye opening too. What it's like having a kid in these days. Like you sometimes think that even us. I feel like we've talked about this recently where we feel like, oh, we're so digitally in the know. We think that we can really understand our kids. Maybe in the future. Nah, it's like. It's this whole different level.
Mariah
They're already years ahead of us.
Matt
How kids are communicating these days, things that they're seeing online, how it's alternating the way they're thinking, altering the way they're thinking.
Zayn
Like, the parents are just like, this is not even that big of a deal. But it is a big deal for like these kids.
Matt
Yeah.
Zayn
With the. That's like going on online.
Matt
Yeah. And Stephen Graham, like half wrote it and like directed it. The dad in it.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
Yeah. He also does another movie called Boiling Point. Or is it Burnt Boiling Point.
Zayn
What is. What was that again?
Matt
There's one with Bradley Cooper and there's one with him. And the posters look identical, but one is a whole shot movie. But it's all at a restaurant and just this drama going.
Zayn
Yeah, good name for a drama restaurant.
Matt
On getting to that boiling point, you know?
Zayn
Yeah, yeah.
Matt
I'm always. I just impress at restaurants that they're able just to make it happen. You're ordering food, and if they got so many different orders, and they're still making it happen back there.
Zayn
Yeah.
Matt
Like, it's just kind of magic. The green peas already we got the mashed potatoes, all this stuff. Like, they're doing stuff to orders, and it's just. There's enough people back there, things are.
Heath
Ready when they're supposed to be, and your food is all coming out at the same time.
Matt
That's what's so fun about just Patricia's dad owning a hamburger place. Like, every time I'm there, I'm always going in the back. Just, like, watching them do it, because I just want to see how everything, how the sauce is made.
Zayn
Oh, man. But then you. But you realize how, like, some restaurants are so gross. Like, I worked at a, at this restaurant, and I. It shut down for a reason. Right. Just. But just being back there, seeing how some stuff were handled, it's disgusting. So they, it gives, it makes you appreciate, like, restaurants that actually, it makes.
Heath
You not want to eat, like, out at restaurants.
Zayn
Like, or it makes you want to, like, think twice about, like, eating out of restaurants. Like, you want to, like, kind of look around and, like, you walk in, look at the kitchen. I don't know. Like, you can kind of, like, get a good sense of what places are clean and what places, like, actually care about, like, the way they're handling their food.
Heath
I think that's why a lot of restaurants now, you'll see that the full kitchen is open. Like, they're making it.
Zayn
I love that.
Heath
Making an effort and, like, a point to have the whole, whole kitchen staff, like, working and be, like, visible to, like, the customers.
Zayn
Yeah. Because it puts them more on the spot. Like, oh, I need to. Yeah, that's got a lot of, like, a lot of. I'm seeing a lot of, like, chains do that too. Like, habit does that. It's really.
Matt
Like, Krispy Kreme was the first one on that, though. You be up on that window, your face just smushed.
Heath
Everybody was nosy. I wanted to see them donuts.
Matt
You wanted to see that don't up flip. Right. And it fries up. You're like. And it goes under that just waterfall a glaze. You're just like, yeah, I, I, I.
Zayn
I want to be like, is it crazy to ask for a. Like, I want to, like, be on, like, you want to take a ride? I want to take a ride. I want to be glazed from head to toe. That'd be A good video.
Matt
You know, I was thinking this, like, if you were like, the richest person in the world, like, $100 billion, I'd.
Zayn
Have that made in my.
Matt
Well, like, I was thinking about. I was just getting ready, and I'm like, God, it's just so annoying, like, every day, like, having to put on your facial moisturizer. Having to, like, you know, like, brush your teeth. Just. You have to do all the physical body maintenance. If I was just the richest person in the world. But then this sounds like I just want servants. But you just, like, you go lay and they just like, well, that's called.
Zayn
It's called the facial. A facial.
Heath
No, like, somebody to brush their teeth.
Matt
For him, like, shower, and you're just like, put on. Brush my teeth for me and just, like, ensure that.
Zayn
Well, they do have that. You just have to be like a vegetable. Like you. You literally have to. Yeah. Immobile.
Matt
Just do it all. I don't want. Because I'm just always like, God, you put on body lotion. You're just like, having to do all this. I'm like, dude, the richest rich of people have to do all this annoying little stuff.
Zayn
Yeah, they do.
Matt
I think they do still do it.
Zayn
Well, I mean, if they're really old. Yeah.
Heath
I haven't brushed my teeth in 10 years.
Zayn
Brush my teeth.
Matt
Someone's brushing your teeth. But are you rich enough to. Where you can afford somebody?
Zayn
Anybody is doing that. We're. They're having a dental cleaning.
Matt
But a dentist does that all the time. They're brushing my teeth.
Zayn
They are. But, you know, you do that like twice a year. Year. You come in for your cleanings, but no one's brushing someone. But I guess if I was a.
Matt
Billionaire, I'd want a dental cleaning of every.
Zayn
It's. It's actually not good for your gums to get your teeth clean like that.
Matt
Because I want a safe one. One that's not aggressive. Oh.
Zayn
Oh, yeah. Okay. Because I did ask my dentist, like, hey, can I come in here more than, like, twice a year? He's like, no, it's actually, like, not good for your. Like, you can't get a cleaning like this more than a certain amount of times. I was like, okay, it's a. Has got to be better than what I'm doing because I come back with a root canal.
Heath
Yeah.
Zayn
You know what I mean?
Heath
Maybe you should go more frequently.
Zayn
Yeah, I feel like I deserve it.
Mariah
I bet you'll notice a change in your teeth from not vaping.
Zayn
Yes, I agree.
Mariah
I think less. I think A lot of things to the dentist.
Zayn
Yeah, I'm. Well, I. I can't wait to see what my anxiety is like in like a few months. What my. Yeah, my fogginess. My how I feel in the morning when I wake up going to sleep. How my sleep. Sorry. Like, a lot. I can't wait to see what changes and what doesn't change. So I know what to fix because I feel like the vape is like, causing a lot of issues.
Heath
Yeah. You probably start seeing, like the real benefits pretty soon here.
Zayn
Yeah. Gonna be cool or not benefits. More like what has it destroyed as I've been doing it has it like affected.
Heath
I don't like, notice it now, but I remember when I quit smoking, food tasted different. Like, I don't remember, like, now looking back, like, what food tasted like when I was.
Zayn
Oh, yeah, the food was tasting better to me once. I.
Matt
You probably had just like a film.
Heath
Things were like, saltier when I quit.
Zayn
Yes.
Heath
Sweeter when I quit.
Zayn
I don't know what I ate, Heath, but like, I literally. My, like, you know when like you close your eyes, like, just naturally you just. You're just like, oh, my God.
Heath
Huh.
Zayn
I ate something that I eat all the time, but I ate it. Like, it was four days after I quit vaping. I. It was like the best thing I've ever had in my life, but I had it all the time.
Heath
Weird.
Zayn
So it definitely, like, I think it, like my taste buds are like, changing. Yeah, it is. It is.
Heath
It's gonna be foggy for a little bit. Don't worry. Good job.
Matt
This is fun.
Heath
You'll be good, but. All right, let's jump into the unwind. Thank you guys so much for watching another episode. We love you. If you haven't checked out our Patreon yet, make sure to do it patreon.com Zayn and Heath we keep these cameras rolling. You get an extended cut of every single podcast episode. You get early access. You get it ad free. We do a bonus episode every single month. We do a live Q and a every single month. Again. Patreon.com zanenheatheath make sure to check it out.
Zayn
Love you so much. Thank you so much for tuning in. As always, have a great week and we'll see you unwinders in five seconds.
Heath
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Matt
Doodles.
Heath
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Episode Summary: Zane and Heath: Unfiltered – Episode #277 "Guilty Food Pleasures"
Release Date: March 31, 2025
In Episode #277 of Zane and Heath: Unfiltered, hosts Zane and Heath delve into a variety of engaging topics ranging from personal health journeys to quirky food anecdotes and reflections on modern conveniences. This episode offers a candid and entertaining exploration of everyday pleasures and challenges, punctuated by humorous exchanges and insightful observations.
Zane opens up about his experience quitting vaping, detailing the challenges and unexpected ease he encountered during his first week without it.
Struggles and Successes:
Managing Cravings:
Impact on Daily Life:
Heath shares exciting news about an upcoming trip to Honolulu, highlighting the camera equipment gifted by Canon for content creation.
Trip Details:
Zane’s Perspective:
The conversation shifts to a lighthearted discussion about favorite foods, restaurant practices, and nostalgic food memories.
Favorite Snacks and Treats:
Restaurant Refills and Pizza Preferences:
The hosts discuss the rise of installment payment services like Klarna, especially its recent partnership with DoorDash, and express concerns about the ethical implications of such financial models.
Klarna and DoorDash Partnership:
Ethical Implications:
A nostalgic yet analytical segment where Zane, Heath, and Matt explore the evolution of bank robberies, comparing historical methods with modern-day challenges due to technological advancements.
Historical Bank Robberies:
Modern-Day Robberies:
The hosts delve into the world of genealogy, discussing the pros and cons of services like 23andMe and Ancestry.com, and the desire to uncover deeper family histories.
Using Genealogy Services:
Challenges and Costs:
A discussion on modern filmmaking trends, particularly the use of single-take episodes in series and the artistic risks involved.
One-Take Filming in Series:
Reflection on Movies:
As the episode winds down, the hosts reflect on personal growth, the impact of quitting habits, and the importance of appreciating everyday moments.
Personal Growth:
Appreciating Daily Life:
Conclusion
Episode #277 of Zane and Heath: Unfiltered offers listeners a blend of personal anecdotes, thoughtful discussions on societal trends, and lighthearted banter about everyday joys and frustrations. From Zane's journey to quit vaping to reflections on modern banking security and innovative filmmaking, the hosts provide a comprehensive and engaging narrative that resonates with a wide audience. Whether exploring the ethics of payment solutions or reminiscing about old pizza chains, this episode captures the essence of unfiltered conversation and genuine camaraderie.