306: Zachirific Reveals The Truth Behind His Love Life

Summary

Zane & Heath: Unfiltered

Episode 306: Zachirific Reveals The Truth Behind His Love Life

Date: November 3, 2025
Guests: Zach (aka Zachari)
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Overview

This episode features content creator and comedian Zach, widely known as Zachari, joining Zane and Heath (with Julie participating) for a candid, hilarious, and at times surprisingly deep conversation. The main focus is Zach’s honest, rollercoaster story of a recent romantic connection that turned unexpectedly sour—and how his “LA life” and internet fame intersected with both heartbreak and surreal, star-studded moments. Along the way, they riff on LA culture, fame, manifestation, the strangeness of influencer life, and the importance of staying grounded.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Hungover Vibes & LA Nightlife (01:00–07:00)

• The episode opens with Zane, Heath, and Zach joking about hangovers—Zane on nonalcoholic beer, Zach never drinking, and a playful roast about their respective tolerance levels.
• They riff on exclusivity in LA’s club and member scene, with “Living Room” and SoHo discussed, poking fun at how the price of admission often skyrockets with status and darkness (“The more expensive it is, the darker we're gonna make it” – Heath, 06:54).
• Zach humorously downplays his own Hollywood image, sharing, “I got in for free. You guys are talking about $70k a year, I just walked in” (06:17), leading to more banter about influencer privilege.

On Fame, Ego, and Social Media Success (15:00–41:30)

• Zach traces his journey: starting TikTok in high school, grinding through slow growth, the “rating celebrities I’ve met” bit that blew up, and the internal pressure for viral success.
• The group shares the ego rollercoaster of internet fame—Zach admitting to early delusion/manifestation but later becoming more grateful and grounded:

  “I just need to be grateful for it all… every single view. And once you get to that mindset, that’s when things started to take off.”
  (Zach, 36:54)

• Zach’s biggest win: the ability to pull off creative branded content that genuinely performs—a “blessing” of his career.

Family, Upbringing, and Staying Grounded (27:00–33:00)

• Zach opens up about his family in St. Louis, his “middle class, blessed” background, and how his dad’s humor shaped him:

  “My dad is the reason I’m as funny as I am...he’s like my best friend.” (27:29)

• He describes feeling isolated while friends were in college, driving him closer to his family and more focused on content.
• Details his decision to avoid moving straight to LA, instead making long visits, and credits friendships built through internet culture.

LA Connections: Parties, Celebrity Moments & Surrealism (38:00–54:00)

• Zach recalls his rapid ascent into LA’s social circles, from being barely recognized at house parties to meeting major celebs.
• Shares the oddity of party scenes, comparing the darker, sometimes “wholesome” events (like David’s Halloween Party) to the sketchier LA after-hours scene.
• One memorable highlight: a surreal night in Malibu that turns into a spontaneous dinner with total strangers, blending fame with genuine human connection.

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Zach’s Viral “Love Life” Story: Heartbreak, Angel Numbers, and LA Weirdness

Sparks Fly (54:30–1:01:00)

• Zach slides into a model’s DMs (“Have you ever thought about going into modeling or something?” – 55:37) and soon they’re voice-noting, then spending hours daily on the phone.
• She’s living in Hawaii, tells him she’s moving through tough times with LA, and they bond deeply despite only knowing each other through calls.
• “It’s cool being totally real… being able to be vulnerable with someone right away.” (Zach, 56:55)
• Plans are made for a magical first in-person meetup in LA, with shared enthusiasm, references to inside jokes, and even Angel Numbers (repeating digits as “signs”) fueling anticipation.

Signs, Synchronicity, and High Hopes (1:01:00–1:13:00)

• Zach’s story becomes a wild tapestry of “manifestation” and synchronicity: angel numbers (111, 222, 333, 444) appear constantly as he travels, meets artists (like Teddy Swims), and gets exciting music news.
• The build-up feels predestined—Zach makes elaborate, caring plans for their first IRL meeting, even tracking down her favorite candle.

“Everything was lining up. I was like, this is exactly where I need to be.”
(Zach, 78:04)

The Ghosting (1:13:00–1:46:00)

• The big night arrives, but Zach never hears from her. He’s left with no explanation after weeks of deep conversations. He describes the sense of loss:

  “I was so dependent on her for happiness that I realized I wasn't ready to be in a relationship…I needed to learn how to be alone.”
  (Zach, 58:31)

• After some time, he discovers—through mutual followers and Instagram sleuthing—that she suddenly connects with a very famous mutual (whose identity remains confidential).
• The podcast crew points out, with both empathy and humor, how Zach is living through scenes straight from his own viral sketches on TikTok about “your girlfriend with her guy best friend” (31:16).
• Zach deals with the hurt, journaling about the experience, and reaches moments of reflection and growth:

  “The lowest points turn out to be the biggest blessings. But man, it still sucks.”
  (Zach, 80:36)

Celebrity Side-Plots & Surprise Comforts (1:10:00–1:39:00)

• As Zach wallows in heartbreak, he has encounters with actors, musicians, and influencers in rapid succession: running into Jaden Smith, Lana Del Rey (with whom he ends up commiserating about his breakup), Moises Arias, and more.
• An unplanned dinner at Soho and even being comforted by Lana herself become the healing elements he didn’t expect:

  “Lana was saying—if my son ever went through that, I’d fight that girl. She’s so damn cool and genuine.”
  (Zach, 138:26)

Closure and Lessons (1:46:00–End)

• Two weeks later, the girl reaches out with a thin excuse for her disappearance (broken phone, exhaustion), but the conversation quickly turns defensive, blaming Zach for being “immature” for trying to get closure.
• Zach processes the final exchange, recognizing the relationship was not built on mutual respect and that he dodged a bullet (“I don’t care who she is; she could be Brad Pitt. I can give a s***…she’s not who I thought she was.” – 130:45).
• The segment ends with a cathartic, almost comic final note: Lana Del Rey assuring Zach he’ll be more famous than the rival guy, and the whole cast marveling at the absurdity (and ultimate lessons) of it all.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I just need to be grateful for it all. Every single view. Once you get to that mindset, things started to take off.”
  Zach, 36:54

• “I feel like my favorite thing about what I do is meeting people. That’s the real blessing.”
  Zach, 20:06

• “I see 444 and I just go, ‘I trust You, God.’ … Like, what is my life?”
  Zach, 119:13

• “The lowest points in my life are the biggest blessings in disguise. How you bounce back—that’s what matters.”
  Zayn, 80:41

• “She just started messaging me yesterday. What’s up with that?...Respond, bro, it’s freaking me out.”
  (Zach’s DM to famous mutual, describing the wild convergence of influencer dating in real-time) 141:52

• “You don’t want Anna, bro. Trust me.”
  Zach, 141:30

• “You’re better than him. You’re gonna be more famous than him.”
  Lana Del Rey to Zach, 139:18

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Highlight Timestamps

• Hungover/Opening riff: 01:00–07:00
• LA nightlife/membership clubs: 05:11–06:54
• Zach’s path to internet fame: 15:00–29:00
• Family and Midwestern roots: 27:00–33:00
• Deep dive on party culture / LA connections: 38:00–54:00
• Beginning of Zach’s love story: 54:30
• Peak “angel numbers” & manifestation: 60:08–80:00
• The Ghosting: 83:09–106:00
• Processing heartbreak, celebrity run-ins: 110:05–140:17
• Strange closure, Lana Del Rey & DMs: 140:10–145:15
• Final reflections & takeaways: 145:17–End

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, intimate, and comedic – The group constantly breaks tension with LA jokes, pop-culture references, and playful roasts, even in serious moments.
• Zach alternates between sincere vulnerability, self-reflection, and self-aware poking fun at his own “main character energy.”
• There’s an undercurrent of “manifestation meets comedy”—dreamy LA mysticism collides with influencer absurdity.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Internet fame doesn't shield anyone from heartbreaks, awkward situations, or the search for meaning.
• Zach’s willingness to share his most vulnerable—and at times ridiculous—moments is part of why his content resonates: “My favorite thing is meeting people. That’s the real blessing, not the numbers.” (20:06)
• Even the most star-studded, “perfect” looking weeks can be colored by very ordinary disappointments.
• Surrounding yourself with friends, learning to let go, and tapping into gratitude can be the most important tools for both creators and anyone navigating relationships.

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Episode Endnote

Zach teases new music inspired by this heartbreak (“the best song I’ve written…another thing that was meant to be,” 154:45), and the energy in the room feels both cathartic and hopeful. The episode closes with the hosts expressing genuine appreciation for Zach’s openness, humor, and authenticity.

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For new and returning fans alike, this episode is a perfect microcosm of “Zane & Heath: Unfiltered”: wild, unfiltered stories, big laughs, and real heart.

Transcript

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[Heath]

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[Zach]

It's all good. I'm bad.

[Zayn]

I. I have a hangover by proxy.

[Zach]

Okay. Yeah, got you.

[Zayn]

I had like four non alcoholic beers.

[Zach]

Last night and the placebo of it. You're feeling it.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

But you know what you, you would get because there's so much sugar in those drinks. I think they put extra sugar just to like make up for the alcohol.

[Zayn]

It's crazy. I started realizing, like, beers are like a downer. But then like, as you're getting drunk, you're like, okay, but I'm having fun.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

This was just straight tired. I had like four beers. I'm like, I feel terrible acting like.

[Heath]

He was getting drunk with us.

[Zach]

Like he was.

[Heath]

We, like every time I saw him like chugging beer, I'm like, yes.

[Zayn]

He's like, he's back. I'm like, no, because I'm sober too. How long you been sober?

[Zach]

Whole life.

[Zayn]

Oh, wow. Good for you.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So sober probably isn't the word. I just don't drink.

[Heath]

Freaks people out sometimes.

[Zayn]

He's never tried it.

[Zach]

Is it because.

[Heath]

Or like, what is it? Yeah.

[Zach]

Would you say?

[Heath]

Is it like just.

[Zayn]

Are you scared? That's right.

[Heath]

There's alcohol in that drink. That's why I just. Tequila to the top.

[Zayn]

Are you scared?

[Heath]

Oh, you. Yes. I, I actually like, I, I think I'm in like a 30 minutes. I'm going to take a shot. Just like level me out. Because.

[Zayn]

Because this beer is not cutting.

[Heath]

It's so funny. Wine cooler? No, it's not wine, just red. It's a paper straw. Amazing.

[Zayn]

Teeth are all purple.

[Heath]

Okay, well, today is it recording?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Oh, nice. Welcome back to Zayn and Heath unfiltered. I don't even know if we did the intro.

[Zach]

We got to do the intro later.

[Heath]

But today we have Zach, AKA Zachari. Thank you so much for taking the time out of your busy Hollywood life. I'm sure you are.

[Zayn]

You got to get going pretty soon, right? You got something after this?

[Zach]

I got something.

[Zayn]

I figured we'll try to keep it as quick as possible.

[Zach]

Okay, cool.

[Heath]

Yeah, just the girls that is just flying around. You who hear me.

[Zach]

Your. Your bodyguard.

[Heath]

Oh, got you.

[Zayn]

Yeah, I'm just trying to.

[Zach]

It's. He's harmless.

[Heath]

Is that your friend or your brother?

[Zach]

Say again?

[Heath]

Your friend or your brother?

[Zach]

It's my manager.

[Heath]

Your. That's your manager? Holy.

[Zayn]

My manager doesn't walk around dual wielding firearms.

[Heath]

You know how it goes. You know, that's what his rate is.50k, no less a day just beating clients.

[Zayn]

So. So how long has he been your manager?

[Zach]

I'm terrible at times.

[Heath]

Like a day.

[Zayn]

Okay.

[Heath]

Yeah, I know.

[Zach]

Like, I don't know. What do you like, five months?

[Zayn]

Nice, nice, nice.

[Heath]

Is it your first manager?

[Zach]

Yeah, I kind of. You know, I was advised not to, like, go with any, like, company because I was initially. And it just. They weren't getting me anything when I was like, really hitting, like, nothing and it was like, what are we doing? Or like, you know, it's like he.

[Zayn]

Pays you to manage you, right?

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. I was just advised to get like, someone that you can grow with. It's like, yeah, you can trust and is just a smart, smart dude, so.

[Zayn]

Yeah, no, it makes sense.

[Zach]

Zach, can you bring the mic a little closer than your first time?

[Heath]

First time is just telling the craziest.

[Zach]

Story, like, crying dude, my brain is so fried.

[Heath]

Dude. I can't.

[Zayn]

Zane was a mess at like 11:30 last night, and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna. I'm gonna head out.

[Heath]

Where are you going? Buki. Where are you going? Boogie. Where were you?

[Zach]

Were you here at the party, dude?

[Heath]

Just like, just.

[Zach]

Were you just home?

[Heath]

Just living the Hollywood life, man.

[Zayn]

Just meeting all the Christmas Aguilera's house party.

[Zach]

Oh, got you. Yeah, I was invited that. Oh, you didn't go?

[Heath]

You're invited to what?

[Zayn]

Christina Aguilera's house party that you were.

[Heath]

There, you were gone.

[Zayn]

Yeah, it's all right. Yeah, it was like a dinner spot in Hollywood, but then it's like a members only place.

[Heath]

Yeah. Actually Living room. Yeah. Yeah, it was really nice. Yeah, it was our first time.

[Julie]

What?

[Zayn]

He's like, I'm glad you liked my bar. Yeah, no, it's really cool. Food was great. And then we just, like, went downstairs, hung out for a second and.

[Zach]

Was it a membership actually, or no? Yeah, yeah.

[Heath]

Living room.

[Zayn]

You got it, right?

[Heath]

Yeah, I did.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Julie]

Yeah, we know.

[Heath]

We're being honest about that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

It's like 70k a year.

[Heath]

I think it's crazy. It's 3k a year. Yeah, I know, but it's like, it's pretty cheap for. I don't know why they do, like, SoHo too, is like. It's cheap for people that have a lot of money that would spend. Because, like, golf course, you know those, like, those. Yeah, really top golf courses. Those are like 100k, 200k a year.

[Zayn]

For, like, a member.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

It's crazy.

[Zach]

Most L. A, like, congress, everyone just.

[Heath]

Like, bro. So I was head relate with you.

[Zach]

Like.

[Zayn]

Yeah. So I was like, we were at riviera.

[Zach]

Was it SoHo Malibu or SoHo West Hollywood? Not sure. All the time.

[Heath]

Living room. We're only talking about this. We feel like you have this life. So, like, we got it.

[Zayn]

We're, like, trying to prove ourselves.

[Heath]

Like, we.

[Zayn]

We have fun too.

[Zach]

Imagine I'm like, I got in for free. You guys are like, it's 70k a year. I'm like, I got in like. Like that.

[Zayn]

Oh, dude. They were begging me to come in. They just wanted me, like, talk about it.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. But that is a great place up. It's a great, great spot.

[Zayn]

It is fun. It was fun and just dark.

[Heath]

You can't see the menu. The guy goes, I'm sorry, sir. No, no, no. I was like, I can't see the market. Yeah, yeah. And he's like, okay, you can put the FL on. What is up with, like, the more expensive it is, the darker we're gonna make it.

[Zayn]

Dud Hollister. Hollister paved that way years ago, man.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. Fully. Just like, what the.

[Zach]

Like, what is this? Yeah, they. I remember. You know, I'm. I'm like, such a good guy and that, like, I pour my own water. Yeah.

[Heath]

You know what I mean? So, like, no, they'll bring.

[Zach]

They'll. They'll pour it for. And I remember, I go. I went to go to pour it myself and the guy was like, no.

[Heath]

No, no, no, no, you're good.

[Zach]

I got that. And I'm like, is he like, is he good? Is he okay?

[Heath]

Like, no, no, you're good.

[Zach]

I got that.

[Heath]

I got that.

[Zach]

You know, like.

[Heath]

Like a little whiskey.

[Zach]

Yeah, but yeah, yeah, it does.

[Zayn]

It does feel nice, though. I went to. I went to go to the bathroom, and when I came back, my napkin was refolded.

[Zach]

They're really good.

[Heath]

And do you see the way they felt folded that. The knock as we had last night.

[Zayn]

It was a swan.

[Heath]

You turn around, turn back, all swan again, same.

[Zach]

That's great.

[Heath]

Unbelievable.

[Zayn]

Yeah, it was a good time. And then you were at the Poppy's party last night, right?

[Heath]

I was, yeah.

[Zayn]

Nice, nice. Shouts out. That's where our studio is.

[Zach]

I was about to sound like, I'm getting to the point where I'm. I'm so blessed to be in the position I'm in.

[Heath]

I was about to roll my eyes like that. I was like, bro, let's end this episode.

[Zayn]

Just want to give a big thank you to all you guys out there watching right now.

[Heath]

Super blessed. Just the faker. No, no, I genuinely. I am like, I feel you. It's you, bro. I fucking. Yeah, you're like, yeah, for sure. No, me too. No, I remember those days too. Yeah.

[Zayn]

Oh, he's still grateful.

[Heath]

I'm so rich. I'm so rich. Oh, my God. Oh, fuck.

[Zayn]

Just gotta bring it back down a little bit.

[Heath]

Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.

[Zayn]

I say. You were saying.

[Zach]

No, but genuinely, I am very blessed to be in the position, you know.

[Heath]

You fucking dumbass, bro. Oh, you know that. You know that video? That. That fucking video with? It was like a fantastic Four, like, oppressor on. Oh, yeah. And the girl goes. I mean, just that she says something and she goes, like, I'll give you an example of what she said. It was like, oh, and that scene that you both had. Oh, I just gobbled that up. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And then one of the actors is just looking at his friend for like two minutes straight after that. He was just like, oh, man. Holding back. Reminded that. I thought you were gonna bring up.

[Zach]

There's a Drewski clip where he was like. He was talking about, like. Like, it's like, man. Like money, you know, it's like, whatever, but.

[Heath]

And then I just started laughing. It's good. It's good. Like, they weren't even.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Do you know him? Are you friends with him?

[Zach]

He followed me and I loved. Because he's so funny and. Yeah, he's like, Sort of. I feel like the top of, like, comedy.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Right now for like the. That's the social media space. And then I hit him up and he never hit me bad, but it's like.

[Heath]

And unfollowed. Yeah. I said, yo, bro, love the. He's like, yeah, just. No, I like. I, like, want to be friends with him, so. He's my favorite person.

[Julie]

Hilarious.

[Heath]

Favorite.

[Julie]

Favorite.

[Heath]

Okay. Yeah.

[Zayn]

Weird.

[Zach]

I thought you said that to me last night.

[Heath]

You're like, bro, you're my favorite comedian.

[Zach]

I can't wait to have you in.

[Heath]

You're the fakest dude in la. Oh, no. It's good to see you're like this. You're like. You're like pouring. You're like pouring alcohol into your thing in the back. Oh, my God. The tap is hidden behind the tree. That's so funny.

[Zach]

Do you remember the first time we met? We've met. You know that.

[Heath]

Shut the up. No, we have.

[Zach]

Yeah, we have.

[Heath]

Oh, God. What went.

[Zayn]

To be fair, he doesn't remember anybody.

[Heath]

I'm really bad. Like, I. Every night I see somebody, they're like, we've met already.

[Zayn]

No, literally last night, this guy walks up to Zane and he was like, we're literally sitting at the dinner table.

[Heath]

And this guy comes walking up to Zay and I'm like this. I'm like this.

[Zayn]

And he starts putting his hand in Zayn's face. He's like, what the are you doing? He's like, it's me. And Zane's like, I don't know who you are. He's like, dude, I saw you last week. Like, I met you a hundred times.

[Heath]

He's looking at all my friends. He's like, I. I just can't believe that. Like, it's a joke I feel like I would make on a random stranger. And I still don't remember him. No, I know you don't, but when did we meet? You said, I know. You don't have to double down. Like, dude, I swear, I don't remember. When did we. When did we meet?

[Zach]

We met at David's Halloween party. And I was like, I didn't even know you knew David. I was like.

[Heath]

I was like, why are you crazy.

[Zayn]

To see you here.

[Heath]

It was weird.

[Zach]

Like, I didn't know.

[Zayn]

Small world, right?

[Zach]

Anything? I heard, like, some bad about you and I was. I didn't know if you were doing, like, well or not. And so I saw you, like, you know, you're just drunk as. But. Yeah, no but. No but I. I saw you there and you were wearing the. The Tom Brady goat costume.

[Zayn]

Really?

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. And you were like. I was like, yo, what's up, bro? Nice to. Nice to meet you. And you were like, yeah.

[Heath]

You got a cigarette or.

[Zach]

No?

[Heath]

I did. Yeah, you did. Oh my God. You're like, bro, you got a cigarette though. And then I was like, oh, no. You're like, oh, okay, got you. Yeah, I. Dude, I know. You went home like, dude, LA sucks. Well, no, you were like. You were like, what, what am I?

[Zach]

What am I?

[Heath]

And I was like, are you like.

[Zach]

A sense or like, like a Narnia? And you're like, bro, no, I'm. Bro, seriously, I'm the goat. And I was like, oh, yeah, Tom Brady. You're like, yeah.

[Heath]

Oh, yo, cigarette. And then just like left. Bro, there's no way. I don't know what you're doing right now. There's no way I did that. Was. I was I.

[Zach]

It might have been a character.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, you were, Brady. To go treat people.

[Zayn]

You got a cigarette?

[Heath]

Was I. Was I hammered? You were just hammered. Oh, okay. Okay, then I feel better about that.

[Zach]

Because I asked athlete in the world, do you have a cigarette?

[Zayn]

Am I in character? I was doing the.

[Zach]

I was doing Tom Brady.

[Zayn]

It was a bit, right?

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, but no, you were just.

[Zach]

You were. You were smashed.

[Heath]

Yeah, but you weren't making content at that time.

[Zach]

I was. I was at David's Halloween party.

[Heath]

Oh, yeah. No, I never seen anything of yours. No.

[Zayn]

That's probably why I didn't know you.

[Zach]

But yeah, yeah, it ruined my night.

[Zayn]

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[Zach]

No, but it was a, that was a great. That was the. I've been to like so many parties and in la, but like, no, but genuinely like I hate the party scene. It's not my. I don't drink. I'm sober. I've never been drunk in my life. Which I was gonna say earlier. I need to like clarify like when I say like I'm sober, like sometimes I remember I was somewhere for lunch and the.

[Zayn]

And people think it's a problem.

[Zach]

Well, yeah, like the waiter said, he's like, he's.

[Heath]

I'll bring you over some tequila shots. Yeah. I'm like, oh no, I'm so.

[Zach]

He's like, oh my God. Like, I'm so sorry. Like, I'm like, no, no, no, no. And it makes people feel bad, but no, I've just never decided to drink.

[Heath]

You never touch weed either.

[Zach]

I've smoked like three times in my life.

[Heath]

So. You're a fucking liar. Not sober. You act like you've been sober all your life.

[Zayn]

Yeah, only, only hard drugs.

[Heath]

Yeah, hard drugs, cocaine, 2C everything.

[Zayn]

Wow.

[Heath]

And then you were doing Suy that night. I'm kidding. You had pink powder all over your neck.

[Zach]

Is that a part of the costume? I don't remember Tom doing that, but has.

[Heath]

Oh, oh, wait, wait. What?

[Zach]

Sorry, what? No, I was gonna, I, I, you're.

[Heath]

Gonna add to that.

[Zach]

I, I, yeah, yeah. I was gonna say making you look bad more. I don't go to parties but David's party was like the best party I've been to that where it was almost like a wholesome vibe. Yeah, everyone there was like, no, it wasn't like, there's always such a dark vibe in. In a lot of the, like, parties in la. Like, it's so. I know. It's like this is like so probably like douchey to talk about like membership and then talk about, dude, these parties suck.

[Heath]

This is the most tone deaf episode we've.

[Zach]

I think we've ever had.

[Zayn]

But it's okay that, like, that like three million dollar party.

[Heath]

Yeah, no, let's keep going though. Like, how many private jets have you been in? Yeah. And the whole episode. I want to do this.

[Zayn]

You flew here, right? To come. To come out on the pj? Yeah.

[Zach]

That's bold. I came here a young LA flew me out. Oh, cool.

[Zayn]

Nice. You didn't pay for it.

[Heath]

No, no, I wish a brain flew me.

[Zach]

Whenever I come out here. Like when there's an opportunity, I'll just extend it as long as possible because I'm not out here yet officially.

[Zayn]

And they put you up?

[Zach]

They put me up for like a couple nights and then I'm staying by my own. My own dollar.

[Heath]

Oh, is it like the end they put you open the end on adventure? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The motel. I'm like, oh, is this it?

[Zayn]

Or. And then crash at like your various like hotel establishments and stuff like that.

[Heath]

The first time a brand ever flew us to LA to work, it was like for an award show. And they put us in like a motel and we found a.

[Julie]

In our.

[Heath]

It was our first experience of Ella. It was bad cockroach bugs everywhere.

[Zayn]

It was pretty.

[Heath]

You're sociopath. You're just really laughing. No, it was awesome. No, no, we were dying. Like, this is live, dude. I love it.

[Zach]

I think. I don't know if this is.

[Julie]

Is.

[Zach]

I don't want to say the hotel chain, but like there was a hotel I stayed at that wasn't like the greatest. The first time I was out here and I. I don't sometimes. Like, I'd be having bloody noses. But like, I woke up and I feel like there was some.

[Zayn]

Right after talking about doing two seats.

[Heath]

No, no, no, no. But there was some.

[Zach]

I felt like I saw some splatters of like blood on the pillow.

[Zayn]

Bring a black light flashlight.

[Heath]

And it didn't come from you.

[Zach]

And I don't know, like, I don't remember. I like to think that I would have seen that before I went to bed. But then I woke up and I.

[Heath]

Was like, oh, yeah, is this mine or.

[Zach]

Yeah, but you know, I'm okay right now.

[Heath]

I'm sorry. Why are we still at a picture of 2C on the voice just for those wondering. Got you craving. Bro's twitching. Look, he sees he's biting his finger.

[Zayn]

He's getting excited.

[Heath]

Tweaking.

[Zayn]

He's getting. He's having flashbacks from last night.

[Heath]

He's like, yo, what if we take that off the screen? Actually, yeah, babies. He's unbounding a shirt.

[Zayn]

I should take a bathroom break just in case he gets up.

[Heath]

Oh, my God.

[Zach]

But no, but I. Yeah, I just try and stay here as long as possible, and I actually have it. Like, I've been lucky enough that my friends, like, will let me stay, but I feel like I felt bad. Like, I just stay there, like, and, you know, I'm a pretty good guest, you know, whatever. But I just feel bad staying so long to the point where I'm like, I just need a hotel, you know?

[Zayn]

You know, it's time.

[Zach]

Yeah, I know it's time.

[Zayn]

And where do you go?

[Zach]

Back to St. Louis?

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Oh, what is there? Hey.

[Zach]

My family.

[Heath]

Other than that. Other than that.

[Zach]

I mean, we got great food, you know.

[Zayn]

That's crazy. You haven't moved them all out here with the family.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Amount of money you make now she's calling me out.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, because usually, like, they wouldn't want to come out just for how.

[Zayn]

Successful you've been for so long.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

Like, usually people do it, like.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. Like, early on.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Where's your family at?

[Zayn]

Are they here? No, I'm out here for work.

[Heath]

Okay, got you.

[Zayn]

Yeah, yeah, no, they're all in Tennessee.

[Heath]

What's in your bank account right now?

[Zayn]

What are we five minutes into this?

[Heath]

Should we compare, like, you know, account?

[Zach]

I will say I. I generally, like. I don't like going. I love meeting people, though. Like, genuine. Like, I know we were laughing earlier about the, like. Oh, yeah, I'm so, like, I. I am. I'm very lucky.

[Zayn]

How much is in the.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

But, no, but, no, but, like, my favorite part about what I do is meeting people.

[Heath]

I'm serious. Like, you. You, dude, let me get out of serious. You're such a piece of that. You think it's funny? I just imagine him on, like, on the red carpet for a movie premiere that he's not even in.

[Zayn]

Interview.

[Heath]

I'm just, like, so blessed for my. I do want to do a red carpet interview where I'm talking to someone.

[Zach]

Extremely famous and I'm acting as if.

[Heath]

I'm also in the movie.

[Zach]

I'm like. I'm like, it's so crazy that you and me are Here right now.

[Heath]

Like, the fact that we.

[Zach]

The fact that we got here is insane. You know, like, talking to Glenn Pal or some like.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Who.

[Heath]

What?

[Zayn]

It's really great they put this on for us, you know?

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Heath]

How has nobody reached out to you yet to do that?

[Zach]

It's insane. Yeah. I don't know. So, you know, feel free to give me on a red carpet. Just easy, easy, easy.

[Heath]

Yeah, it would do so well, too.

[Zach]

Yeah. I think. Yeah.

[Heath]

Have you ever met Sydney Sweeney?

[Julie]

I know it's, like, a bit.

[Heath]

No, but you never met.

[Zach]

The first time I met David, the first thing he said to me is like, dude, the amount of times I've tried pitching you to Sydney's team and, like, told them, like, you have to do something with him. I guess he doesn't have that much poll because I haven't heard from her. But, no. But, no, I've never heard from her.

[Heath]

Speaking of. Speaking of Paul, I actually landed you. No, no, no. You did the soap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was me. Yeah, I know, I know. Thank you. They reached out to me and they. They wanted me to do a deal, like, a video for the soap. And, like, it didn't, like, make sense to me, but in my head, I was like, oh, that's really funny. And immediately I thought of you, and I was like, there's no way that, like. So, like, I told him. I was like, do you know who Zachary is? They're like, no, we have no idea. Never heard of him before. Yeah. And that's kind of hard to believe, right? Yeah. And I was like, that's insane that you're, like, coming to me first before, like, this kid. Like, I immediately sent your account, and they're like, oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, absolutely. It's like. And then, like, we ended the call, never heard back from them again. Yeah. And then went straight to you for the deal. Wait, did you not. Were you trying to get the deal? No, no. So I was trying to get you the same deal.

[Zach]

Oh.

[Heath]

You're like, oh, this guy. We're gonna give it to seconds. Oh, my God. No, but I'm so glad it went to you because it, like, I. I would have never, like, executed that like you did, and it wouldn't have made sense either, that, like, I did this. But when I saw you did, I was like, I'm so glad that, like, it felt so good.

[Zach]

Is this a new one?

[Heath]

Toilet piss.

[Zayn]

I was like, I don't remember it being that one.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. I thought this was Photoshop, but this.

[Zach]

Is on the Walmart website. No.

[Heath]

Oh, so that's real. That's. No way. Imagine this wasn't in the deal.

[Zach]

They just did.

[Heath]

She's like, what the is this?

[Zayn]

Oh, yeah, we had some extra water left over.

[Zach]

Yeah. Facts. Yeah, I have. They gave me, like, two bars of the soap, you know, and, you know, I'm actually, because I'm a germaphobe, I was kind of, like, not wanting to, like, use it. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, it'll be a good.

[Heath]

You don't have to lie about that.

[Zach]

I still use it to this day.

[Zayn]

No, I'm a germaphobe, so I didn't touch the soap. Likely story.

[Heath]

No, I touched it. I just. Anyway, but no, but that was.

[Zach]

Thank you for that. I appreciate that.

[Julie]

That.

[Heath]

Oh, no, dude, like, I love that. Like, I saw that. I was like, it.

[Zach]

Yeah. It's crazy because you didn't know me when we first met, and then, like. And now all of a sudden you were like. They were like, oh, Zayn. And I was like, oh, he did.

[Heath]

I had prosthetics all over. I couldn't barely see half the night. Had no idea who was seeing that night.

[Zayn]

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[Julie]

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[Zayn]

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[Zach]

No, but that was. Thank you. I appreciate it.

[Julie]

Of course, man.

[Zach]

And I killed that.

[Heath]

You did. Yeah, it was. You did do well. Yeah.

[Zach]

I'm very. I'm very proud of my ads, dude. It's really cool that I've been able to, like, I don't know, like, abs. That's one of the most things that I'm.

[Zayn]

It's probably one of the most blessing.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the most blessing things.

[Zach]

No, but, like, I'm. I'm very proud of the fact that I'm able to, you know, pull through for these brands because, like, I always feel bad when it doesn't do well. Yeah, yeah. Not that it ever doesn't, but.

[Zayn]

Right. But you would just imagine that. What you would feel like if it underperformed.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Heath]

Oh, come on. Hey, come on.

[Zach]

Come on, you guys.

[Heath]

That was exactly the douchebag I met.

[Zach]

That.

[Heath]

You know, David.

[Zayn]

Or.

[Heath]

Imagine that guy with a sickness. Honestly, pretty sick. Yeah. That was a great costume.

[Zach]

It was. Yeah. Thank you. How much did you spend on that prosthetics?

[Heath]

Like, I think was like 350.

[Zach]

350.

[Heath]

But everything else was in there.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

That's stupid, her putting it on. Dude, they charge so much of prosthetic people to put that shit on your face.

[Zach]

It's a niche thing. Are you not complaining about people and, like, trying to make a living off.

[Heath]

Of what they do?

[Zach]

They charge like fucking $300.

[Heath]

It's like, what the fuck is your problem? But anyway, I did this, like, 50k deal. I had to post an image of me online.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

I mean, dude, I just are getting insane. The people. The. I was. I just said this to my manager the other day. People are posting brand deals where the first picture is not even of the brand is just like a selfie. And then you swipe and then it's.

[Zayn]

Like the product, they're not hiding it.

[Heath]

It's.

[Zach]

Who isn't hiding it?

[Heath]

What? No. Like, you haven't seen just posts in.

[Zayn]

Like, it'll be like a carousel.

[Heath]

A carousel. And, like, the first picture is literally just a selfie, Right. Nothing, no problem. Then the next one is, like, would be a bottle of soap. And that's the sponsor. It's a sponsored post. It's crazy how, like, that's allowed. Allowed.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Yeah. Or how the brand even approved that.

[Zayn]

They're like, it's going to feel more organic.

[Heath]

I feel like you have to be.

[Zach]

Really big for them to say yes to that. That.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

To know that you're going to get swipes.

[Zayn]

That's true.

[Zach]

Have you gotten that deal or. No, I don't.

[Heath]

I don't get deals. No, no, no, no, no. That's why we do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

Are you. Are you new money or old money?

[Zach]

My. I feel like my parents growing up, like, middle class.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Julie]

Ew.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Weird.

[Zach]

But again, I'm. I'm very blessed. No, but like, my parents, I'm. I'm so grateful.

[Heath]

I hate you. I hate you, bro. No, but I, I'm. I.

[Zach]

My parents are amazing and. And they supported me in doing what I do.

[Heath]

They think you're funny.

[Zach]

Yeah. My dad is the reason I. I'm like, as funny as I am, you know, Cuz, not to sound like overly compliment, but like, bro's laughing in there. But no, my dad is hilarious and we just like, he's like my best friend.

[Zayn]

Okay.

[Heath]

Awesome.

[Zach]

You know, just.

[Zayn]

Do you ever put him in content?

[Heath]

No, no, I don't. He does.

[Zach]

He wouldn't.

[Zayn]

Would he be down?

[Zach]

No, he's camera shy. He's a little camera shy. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. He. He just.

[Zayn]

He charges you.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

Appearances.

[Heath]

Does he give you ideas? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

The parents are always like, you know, like, oh, what if you did this?

[Heath]

Like, what if?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

Oh, that's a great idea. We'll save it.

[Zach]

Yeah, but no, but I was like, right on the. Like, I started making videos when I was junior in high school, okay. Cuz I'm 23.

[Heath]

Yeah. What, bro? What? I know you're like, how old are you? Like 38 or you're pushing 40, right?

[Zayn]

Or no, no, Zayn's turning 33 next.

[Heath]

I know I don't look it, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone starts laughing like it wasn't a joke, but. Yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

And you're 23.

[Zach]

You said I'm 23. Yeah, but I. So I started making videos when I was in junior year of high school, right around co. And I remember vine days. Like, I kind of missed that. And I would see that and I'd be like, bro, I know, I know. I could have killed that.

[Heath]

You would have been perfect for that.

[Zach]

Would have been perfect. Watch Nicoletti shout out Nicoletti.

[Heath]

He was so, so funny.

[Zach]

And like, people. What?

[Zayn]

He was unbelievable.

[Zach]

He was incredible. Yeah.

[Heath]

Way ahead of our time.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Wait, wait, what was the question? I didn't hear.

[Zayn]

You said we were on vine, right?

[Heath]

Oh, yeah. Z baby. Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Bad times, Cross. It was kind of embarrassing.

[Zayn]

That's why I'm not, like leaning.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Yeah. Anytime anybody brings up line, we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did it for a little bit.

[Zach]

But no, but I. I. I always looked at vine and was like, I would watch the YouTube compilations. I was like, bro, I know I.

[Heath]

Could have done that to just steal all those ideas. And then you like me. Yeah.

[Zach]

But Tik Tok came around, and my friends were like, dude, you got to make vids. Because I was always doing, like, bits and stuff. And I credit them, like, for telling me, bro, you got to make videos. And I was like, all right, let me get. Let me get some videos in. And I made my first video. I was like, bro, I'm gonna go so viral. This shit's gonna go.

[Zayn]

So you knew. You knew what time it was already?

[Zach]

I knew what time it was. And then it got, like, 100 views. And I was like, oh, that's okay.

[Heath]

That's insane. Is there a glitch on, like, a shadow band?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Immediately you have, like, 100 followers. Yeah. I'm like, yo, have you guys checked.

[Zayn]

On your algorithm lately?

[Heath]

Because that's so funny.

[Zayn]

Something seems off.

[Heath]

I feel like all. We had a buddy. We had a bunny that was on a dating app. What, though? We had a bunny that was on a dating app, and he bought. He bought, like, the super. The super super roses or some. He was. He was looking great. He wasn't getting no matches with the super roses. He contacted. He contacted the dating app. He was like, I think you guys, shadow band Mike. Oh, my God, bro, was he kidding? It's like, full email. Like, was he joking or serious?

[Zayn]

And they responded saying, no.

[Zach]

I went through oh, my God. Like, the ultra, like, interact.

[Heath]

Like, yeah, you are. You are, like, billboarded on that's so Funny page.

[Zach]

That's like, the first videos I made was like, sort of like, everything instead of. Of my bit now, where it's like, like, living the life. Yeah. The opposite of was like, me, like, you know. You know, like, I made a skit where it was talking about, like, oh, my girlfriend, like, yeah, she has, like, a God best friend. And my friend's like, bro, like, no shot. I'm like, bro, it's not even like that.

[Heath]

Like, you know what?

[Zayn]

I remember that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

And it would always end up being.

[Zach]

The worst possible scenario where. Yeah. It's like, yeah, bro, she left her phone. And like, it's like, bro, check it. It's like, bro, I'm not gonna check my girl's phone.

[Julie]

Phone.

[Zach]

Yeah. It gets a ding notification. It's like, bro, check. Okay, bro. Quantavon snapped her, like, whatever, bro. It's not a big deal.

[Zayn]

But they're like. They're chill. Like, they're close.

[Zach]

No, they're chill, like, you know, it's whatever. He's like, bro, open that, and then I open it. What?

[Heath]

Oh, my God.

[Zayn]

Yes. You remember.

[Heath]

Wait, that's you.

[Zayn]

That's crazy.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Heath]

Holy.

[Zach]

Go more up. Go more up. Before I like, bro. I didn't wear a shirt. It was so embarrassing. I don't know why the. I did.

[Zayn]

Oh.

[Heath]

Oh, yeah. I've seen you a million times. I had no idea. But. Oh, but so know.

[Zach]

Actually, it was above this. The first thing I ever did that was, like, really viral was, like, rating celebrities I met where I, like, was kind of like a iteration of, like, what I do now.

[Heath]

But did you film this all in one day? Did you do, like, 100 tick tocks? That's so go. Go up, go up.

[Zach]

I. I've been on here, bro.

[Zayn]

Yeah. This looks like my camera roll.

[Heath]

I'm trying to get the right photo. Go to, go to. How can he find anything, Bro, if.

[Zayn]

You were pulling 4 million views, every video, you'd be doing 30 a day without moving.

[Zach]

Koda, when you call your girlfriend when she's on the girls trip to Italy. Hey, so how's Italy?

[Heath]

It's literally amazing. Stop. Get away from me.

[Zach]

I already see you're making friends. That's amazing. Yeah, he's a real tickle monster. You said he. Yeah, no, yeah, he's a guy. Yeah, yeah. Tell me. Tell me about. Tell me about him. So his name's Eduardo. He's a yoga instructor. And get this, he offered me a free session.

[Heath]

That's so nice of him.

[Zach]

That's literally so nice. Yeah, he said we could just do it at his place, too.

[Heath]

So I thought that was really.

[Zach]

How courteous. How courteous?

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

He's actually a professional martial artist. Isn't that crazy?

[Heath]

Oh, you said martial arts art.

[Zach]

Yeah, he said it's his passion beyond yoga instructor. Yeah.

[Heath]

That's so tight. That's so amazing, babe.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Well, we gotta go.

[Julie]

Okay.

[Zach]

Okay. But it was good talking to you. Yeah, no, it's all good. Well, hey, call me back tomorrow, okay? Yeah, maybe. I mean, my back's been killing me, you know? You said. You said your back's been killing you. Yeah.

[Heath]

Well, how high is your back?

[Zach]

I love how those dancing, those crazy.

[Heath]

Sound effects are coming back. But, like, yes, it's. It's good again because people used to use it during Vine.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

And it was so cringe. It just, like, was not working.

[Julie]

It didn't.

[Heath]

It wasn't funny. But it's coming back and it just. Yeah, it just hits now.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's great.

[Zayn]

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[Julie]

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[Julie]

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[Heath]

We love you.

[Zach]

Where was it? What was I even talking about?

[Heath]

Yeah, I lost this conversation like 10 minutes ago.

[Zach]

We do these bits where I, you know, the worst thing would be happening of just the laugh. Sort of like, like that's what people knew me for.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

What the. And, and then it became the opposite. You know, when I did like, I did like rating celebrities I met where I would pretend to Be a waiter. And, like, I'd say, like, Kim Kardashian came in, and I'd make it as real as possible. And then at the end, I'm like. And then she started, like, twerking on me. I was like, bro, get out of my face. What are you doing? That's so weird. And then that sort of ran its course, and I was at a point where I was like, stuff wasn't hitting as much. Like, that was a series, and I could sort of count on it. But after it kind of lost its seam and steam, I was kind of, like, you know, in limbo a little bit. You know what that means, right? You can just check in.

[Heath]

Yeah, but. But no, but I was sort of.

[Zach]

Like, I would see all my friends, like, really hitting, and I was like. I was envious. And I was, like, jealous. I was like, why am I not getting that?

[Zayn]

Because you're better.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Well, no, I was just.

[Zach]

I. I wanted that. And I was like, I've been doing it for, like, two years, and I just. Nothing was really hitting. And eventually I just, like. I know you're gonna laugh at this, but, like, I did get to a place where I was like, you know what?

[Heath]

Just so. I'm just so, like, grateful and blessed. I said, no, but genuinely.

[Zach]

I got to a point where I was like. I seem so fake.

[Heath]

But I got.

[Zach]

To a place where I was like, I just need to be. I need to be grateful for it all. Like, genuinely, like, every single view. Like, I. And once you get to that mindset. Mindset.

[Heath]

Instead of thinking, you find out he buys you.

[Zayn]

I'm just so grateful for all these bots. Yeah.

[Heath]

But I did.

[Zach]

I got to a place where I was like, I genuinely need to flip it and just see it from a perspective of, like, whatever I get, like, I'm thankful for. And then when I got there, I took a break for, like, a month, and I didn't even know if I was gonna come back. And when I came back, I didn't even feel the pressure anymore of, like, needing to get anything, no expectation, and let go. And, like, immediately I was doing the same shit. Hit like this. Like, the videos were not hitting. And then I was doing just an idea that came to mind. And, like, every video after that was like, like, five mil. Like, two mil. Like. Like, views, like. And I was like, what the is happening?

[Zayn]

You just need to have, like, a little mental reset.

[Zach]

It's like, I needed to get to that place.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

To get to the place where I got to, you know, that's crazy.

[Zayn]

We had to hit rock bottom and, like, go completely broke and be strung out on drugs and you just had to, like, take a break for, like. Yeah. Damn. That's crazy.

[Heath]

Crazy.

[Zayn]

No, it was like. It was a lot more.

[Heath]

I think we had like a year and a half crash out for.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

That's cool that you could get it done so quickly, though.

[Zach]

Like, really.

[Heath]

I mean, it's still early.

[Zach]

You know what I mean? Like, you know, I'm. I'm only 23 and.

[Heath]

You're 30. 33.

[Zach]

That's crazy.

[Heath]

You're 10 years younger than us.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Wow.

[Zach]

Are you 33 as well?

[Zayn]

32.

[Zach]

32. Also. Congratulations.

[Zayn]

Oh, thank you.

[Zach]

Married.

[Zayn]

Thank you. Yeah, we got married a couple months ago and we got a baby due mid December.

[Zach]

Congratulations.

[Zayn]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Julie]

Wait, when did you get married? February.

[Zayn]

February.

[Heath]

Were you there or do you remember that or.

[Julie]

I don't.

[Heath]

Yeah, Yeah. I don't. I don't.

[Zayn]

It does it to your brain.

[Zach]

Yeah. But it's so cool seeing.

[Zayn]

Thank you.

[Zach]

Because, like, I. I watched, you know, Vlog Squad, you know, like, early on, everyone in high school was. And it's so cool to be in a place where sometimes I gotta, like, you know, be like, what is it? What is this? Yeah. Like, it's like knowing everyone and not, like, really thinking anything of it. Like, you know, like, there have been so many surreal moments in, like, what I've done.

[Zayn]

It's crazy.

[Zach]

It's just insane. Like, I'm sure you guys, obviously, I'm so.

[Zayn]

I'm so blessed and grateful to be off.

[Heath]

Off, dude. Yeah, I'm not really. But I, like, knew this was meant for me. Yeah. You know, like, this was like, when I was born.

[Zayn]

It just feels normal.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

Right. Like, yeah, you're. It's expected.

[Zach]

Yeah. My thing is, what was really, like, cool was when I was like, coming up, the people that I meet beat. I was very.

[Heath]

Sorry, bro. I'm not speaking. I'm not saying anything.

[Zayn]

No, it's just so funny because you dance in and out of a character.

[Heath]

That, like, I just, like, don't know what's. I don't know.

[Zayn]

It's just be taken really funny either, like, when you're being serious or not. Like, it's just. It's fun. It's fun. So when you're blowing up.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

It was cool because when I did those videos, I, like, in that time period, I wasn't even doing the bit yet, but I was doing, like, similar views to what I was when I was, like, the bit. Like, the only difference really was I was, like, more branded, like, brandable. When I was, like, doing Zacharific, like, yeah, flexing guy. Because it was more of, like, a established thing that made more sense. And it was around the time that I first came out to la, because I came out here, my friend was doing an acting course for, like, five weeks, and I was like, I was looking for any excuse because I, like, I'd never traveled, like, alone, and I. I didn't want to come out here alone. Like, I don't know. I knew a bunch of people.

[Heath]

Yeah. And.

[Zach]

But it wasn't, like, people that I could really, like, trust yet. Like, it was just kind of like, you know, connects here and there. But my friend told me, he's like, yo, I'm going to this accident. I was like, yeah, I'm down. Like, let's go.

[Heath]

What.

[Zayn]

What class was it?

[Zach]

Like, the Academy.

[Zayn]

Okay.

[Zach]

I think they closed, but.

[Heath]

But. But we went out here for five.

[Zach]

Weeks and it was great. And it was like. But it was cool because I, like, I was trying to obviously focus on the acting stuff, but everything was happening so much to where I was, like, doing so much, like, surreal, like, outside of class, because it was just an excuse for me to be here and. Yeah.

[Heath]

Are you still doing auditions right now for.

[Zach]

No, no, I'm just, like, I'm looking to maybe get into acting more.

[Julie]

So.

[Zach]

But that was just like, a. Cool. And what was really sick was people have always told me, like, dude, you're, like, really, like, a natural. Like.

[Heath]

Yeah, I feel like. I mean, I feel I could see you in, like, a. I would love to. I would love to be in a movie. But, like. No, but, like, people would tell me that.

[Zach]

And I always wanted that, you know, like, similar to what you say. Like, this will sound douchey, but, like, I. When I was first, like, coming up or not, like, before, the reason, like, I talk about, like, oh, I'm going viral, like, first vid. Right. Like, like, you don't. You haven't. Your ego hasn't been checked.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

The sky's the limit once.

[Zayn]

Once the views start dropping. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Heath]

He. Then I will, like, go back to old and we're just like, wow.

[Zach]

Yeah. Wow.

[Heath]

We were blind. Yeah. Making the rich laugh. I do, too, though. I. I do too. That's my. My dad's a lot. My dad laughs the same way.

[Zach]

I get it from him, you know? Dude, I feel like. I feel like I. I like when I laugh, laugh. Sometimes people Think I'm faking it? Like, I. Because I, I just, I love, I love it. I just love, you know, I don't know. It's out.

[Heath]

Do a real life. Would you say you'll belt it?

[Zach]

Maybe you'll catch one, you know, eventually.

[Heath]

But like, I feel like people kind.

[Zach]

Of look at me like maybe that's just insecurity, but like, people are like, you know, it's like, are you with me? I've heard that.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You're not laughing. I'm like, I am actually.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And it ruins the vibe. But anyways.

[Zayn]

So how often do you come out here?

[Zach]

Once every other month. Month.

[Zayn]

Okay. Are you gonna make the move?

[Zach]

Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Because all my friends are here. You know, I never went to college, so like, I was very like, like lonely doing like coming up because, like, all my friends were at college and like, I didn't have anyone to really hang out with. That's why I got really close to my family.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You know, and like, my dad's like my best friend, you know, but I would be doing videos and like hoping, you know, I had it in mind. Like, I just knew that what was.

[Zayn]

The turning point point for your parents? Because like, we started young too.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

Like, when did they realize, like, okay, this is a thing.

[Zach]

I made the Tick Tock changed its payment program to pay for like, if it was a minute long video.

[Heath]

Actually, didn't they just change that like a half a year ago or a year ago?

[Zach]

That's when I. That's how long I've been like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, sorry.

[Heath]

I've been killing it for like, sorry.

[Zayn]

Over here recently just started like approving what you did do.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. But like, it was like, I've been.

[Zach]

It was actually the exact time when I was like, I was like, like when I talk about, like being envious and when I flip the, you know, perspective in my mind. When I came back, I had heard about the new program and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'll. Yeah, sure. And it just hit, you know, all these minute long videos. I don't know if they were pushing more minute long content or whatever it was, but I remember, remember making like 700 from a video. Yeah. And I don't even. I think it might have. That video might have made like a grand. But like telling my dad, like, I.

[Heath]

Was like, bro, like 700, like I.

[Zach]

Ran out to the, you know, garage where he works, you know, and I.

[Zayn]

Was like, how cool was that?

[Heath]

Just insane money. Just a selfie video something I know, dude.

[Zach]

Like, it's because it's what I knew like was possible.

[Zayn]

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[Julie]

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[Zach]

What I was going to say. I was going to say this earlier. I think you cut me off, but.

[Heath]

No, but what I think is it.

[Zach]

Sounds douchey to say, but I've always like, I definitely had this thing in mind of like, I'll be famous. Like.

[Zayn]

So you had always had a big ego. Yeah, no, but prior, like I was a narcissist.

[Heath]

Yeah, narcissist.

[Zayn]

I just always knew I was gonna be super.

[Heath]

Are.

[Zach]

No, but like I, I had in mind like. I feel like that's. That's what it takes though, is like to. It's almost like a given, you know, it sounds douchy.

[Zayn]

You're talking about talent being given to you.

[Zach]

Not even that. It's more just like a weird belief, a delusion. Would you.

[Zayn]

Would you say it's more of like a manifestation type thing?

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. Of like I love entertaining people. And a part of me was just always like, yeah, this is what I want to do and I'll do it, you know, and it sounds douchy to be like, people are like, dude, did you know you'd be famous? And I could lie and be like, bro, not at all.

[Heath]

Like, I know you definitely.

[Zayn]

If you would have told me 10 years ago that I'd be saying, but.

[Heath]

I want to, I want to like genuinely see a compilation of you like every year doing an interview. Just like I just always know. And it's just like till the. Till you're 70. Just the same. I just always knew. But no, but I always had in.

[Zach]

Mind, like when I saw the Vines, I was like, I know I could do that. And I was always like, there's videos of me as a kid just like doing anything I could to entertain like, anyone. Yeah. And I saw what, like a little desperate.

[Heath]

I get to see how. And I do admit, like, it is like, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

And it is like, like I can recognize that it is like I, I definitely. I will say I do, I do think I had a bigger ego before I started cuz I hadn't done it at all. Like I wasn't humbled in Any way. I was just like, yeah, of course I can do it.

[Heath]

You're also younger, too.

[Zach]

Like, yeah, like now. Like, I'm not going to lie and say I don't, like, have somewhat of an ego. Like, sometimes I have my moments of, like, being like, yeah.

[Zayn]

You know, I think. I think anybody that does social media has some sort of.

[Heath]

It comes with it.

[Zach]

Everybody has, like, some bit of. You know, it's hard. Like, Like, I've been. It's so cool. Like, doing the dating videos with, like, David.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Alvarezi. What I call him Alvarez. You know, whatever. Doing. Doing those. Yeah, yeah. Tight. Which I like that Dave, you know.

[Heath]

I call him D. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

It gets shorter and shorter. The longer, you know.

[Zach]

For sure. For sure. But doing those videos, that was a bless. That was when I was out here for the first time. So that. So the first one I did did. I thought I did so terrible. I told him. I called him. I was like, bro, I did ass. And he was like, you were amazing, man.

[Heath]

Anybody looks good after editing crazy.

[Zach]

You just.

[Heath]

You said that you did do ask. You're like, it's the editing. It's not. Yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

Jared's gonna have to work on this podcast quite a bit, but just the editing.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

It's gonna be cut together well for you. Don't worry.

[Heath]

But when I did it, though, I.

[Zach]

Was so, like, in my head, like, bro, I did terrible. And it's so cool because I did it with. It was such a great group. And looking back, like, it was such a great video. And. And there were like. It was. That was like the moment that I really hit, like, doing that show. Because then, like, there were like, literally, like, five clips that did, like, of edits of me that did like, 10 mil, like, views on Tick Tock. I was watching that, like, what the. You know, like, it's so weird and it's just so surreal to think about it because it was only like a year and a half ago. Yeah.

[Heath]

And, like, is all you care about is numbers? Yes. No, no. But I would, like. It was just.

[Zach]

It's just a weird thing to see, you know, of like, being like, what the Is that?

[Heath]

Yeah. I mean.

[Zach]

And like, it's literally. That doesn't help your ego, watching an.

[Heath]

Edit of yourself, like, you know, like, the most. Like, I'm watching that 20 times, just fully like somebody else.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

But yeah, and then.

[Zach]

And then I've done, like, a couple since, and I just. I just did one on Poppies.

[Zayn]

Did you ever find love on these shows or outside off camera?

[Zach]

No, not really. I mean, it was. It's always just kind of been fun, you know? Yeah.

[Zayn]

You're not trying to, like, settle down.

[Zach]

Or anything, like, because even though I'm winning them all, like, it's like. It's like whatever, right?

[Heath]

You don't need somebody. My ego hasn't gotten to me at all. No, no, I made that. Yeah. So good.

[Zayn]

Take a good photo.

[Zach]

Wait, how many likes does it have? 357k.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

I'm going to come across, so. But yeah, the.

[Zach]

The clip of me go down.

[Heath]

Yeah, I want to watch. I want to watch it again.

[Zach]

I'm like, is it the. Every girl chose me on the dating show.

[Heath]

Is it the money one?

[Zach]

What's that one? It's like 50k and like a bunch of watches.

[Heath]

What is it?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Where'd you get that money from?

[Zach]

Just like a brand? No, no, my friend, actually, my manager's brother, Shout Out Lyndon, he has a. A watch company called Oliver and Clark. Is that what it's called? Revan.

[Heath]

Did he, like, rent it out to you so you can take the pictures? Yeah, yeah. Well, no, he just like.

[Zach]

He was like, bro, come in and he like, had. He took out everything from this.

[Heath]

Are those gold doubloons? Yes.

[Zayn]

What the fuck?

[Heath]

I know.

[Zayn]

So you are old money.

[Heath]

Yeah, well, no, so he.

[Zach]

He took out everything from the safe from his company.

[Heath]

Just gave it to me.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Julie]

That.

[Heath]

That picture right there, that should just be your avatar.

[Julie]

Like.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, I'll do my own.

[Zayn]

But what were you thinking about that moment? What were you stressing out about?

[Zach]

Stressing out? What?

[Zayn]

Yeah, when you were sitting there like this, what was.

[Zach]

Oh, it's just like the pressure, you know, of like. You know, like, so many people look up to me and. But no, I'm just kidding. No.

[Heath]

But, yeah, I think it's funny to.

[Zach]

Like, do like, the. Where you're like, sad, as in the most, like, flexing scenario, but go up really quick to the. The edit.

[Heath]

He has a nice day.

[Zach]

Thank you.

[Heath]

Like, I posted this.

[Zach]

Did you.

[Heath]

Did you make that? You, like, screen recorded that.

[Zach]

There's this guy who's like a lot of the. Even going back to that first dating video I did, the clips just went insane. Like, he would post these clips and, like, they were doing like 10 mil. And then he's always kind of just done editing me throughout. Like, when we did the dating like that. He did the same one. He did that. And it did like 11, like 10 or 9 million views and like 1.6 million likes or something. And I was like, what the. Like, what. Who?

[Heath]

Like, like, you, like, know the exact numbers. I do. I. 100 do. I do.

[Zayn]

And then like a journal where you write them down.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

Views.

[Zach]

But, dude, it's. It's insane because it's, like, weird as to, like, see people doing that to me. But it's funny that the bit is.

[Zayn]

Is it. Is it hard for you to go out in public?

[Zach]

Some. Sometimes people are like, bro, like, why don't you have a bodyguard? I'm like, it's not, you know, it's nothing like that. It's more. Just had a bar of someone in my face, like, yeah, yeah.

[Heath]

Yo, where's Sydney at? I'm like, she's at the crib. She's at. He's like, no, you're right.

[Zach]

I'm like, yeah, 100%. But. No, but.

[Heath]

Just repeating your videos back to you.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah. But I will say my favorite. My literal favorite thing about doing what I do is having conversations with people that I wouldn't have met otherwise. Like, people coming up to me and like. Like, even just going for, like, I was going for a walk in my. Where I'm from, my hometown, in my Beverly Hills.

[Heath]

Beverly Hills. And was it.

[Zach]

Yeah, Beverly Hills.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. But no, but I was going for.

[Zach]

A walk in my hometown town and there was these people that, like, stopped the car and they were like, yo, can we take a. It was like, so, you know, random and cool. And we just ended up talking for like an hour and just like on the side of the road, just like, talking about, you know, because that's what I value more than anything. Like, people ask me, like, dude, does it get annoying when people come up to you talking about, like, your bit? Like, even like, bro, where's Sydney? And it's like, I have no right to be like, you know, like that.

[Heath]

You know, you're so humble.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's. But I am like, like, you know, like, sure, it's not my preferred thing because I've heard it a million times, but, like, who gives a. Like, it's like, cool that people relate to it. But when people come up and they're, bro, I love your videos. And we just start talking and it's just like a conversation. And like, it's like I've met some, like, like, even close friends of mine just from, like, people coming up to me. I. With your. And I love that, like, I met a guy. I was going through a little bit of a tough situation recently. Yeah. Yeah. More of like, it was Like, I was talking to this girl. This is the story I wanted to tell you.

[Heath]

Oh, yeah?

[Zach]

Yeah. It's weird because I can't tell some of it.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

On like, line. Cuz, I mean, just.

[Heath]

Is it like names that you're worried.

[Zach]

About or more names? Yeah.

[Heath]

Oh, so just say. Just say a fake name.

[Zach]

You're like. So just say it.

[Heath]

Just say it. Just say.

[Zach]

But, okay. So there was this girl that I was talking to for like a month.

[Heath]

You're smiling. I just. I just think it's a. I don't know if it's a real story or not.

[Zayn]

Get like, halfway through until I make my decision on which way I think it's exactly. Exactly.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heath]

Is it a real. This is a real, real story.

[Zach]

And it's. It's gonna sound like a bit.

[Heath]

Okay. Okay.

[Zach]

It's going to sound like. Because it's the most insane representation of my, like, bit manifesting itself in, like, a weird reality of, you know, people saying, like, bro, like, faked his way to fame. Right.

[Heath]

Got it.

[Zach]

And it's a long story. It's a little bit.

[Heath]

Okay, go ahead.

[Zach]

I was talking to a girl, like a month, and I, like, I never DM girls. Like, I DM this girl. She had, like, liked my video and I. I just DM'd her. I was like, let me just.

[Zayn]

What'd you say?

[Zach]

I said, she's like a model. Because of course. And only day model.

[Heath]

No, but. No, but I DM'd her.

[Zach]

And I said. I was like, hey, have you ever thought about, like, going into modeling or something? Just stupid.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Dumb. And she thought, that's perfect. Thank you. I appreciate that. And, you know, she responded. And like, I. I prefer, like, voice notes, you know, because it's just like, you can only get so much tone. Yeah. From, like.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And when you're getting to know someone and so, like, we just start talking. It was just, like, hitting immediately. And just the chemistry was really great. And. And she was just so dope, you know, she was really cool. And we ended up, like, calling that night for, like, three hours. Oh, wow. And, like, it was fun. It's cool being able to, like, be fully, like, real. Like, like the. We were like, about to end the call. Like, we need, like. Like needed to, like, it was like, going on way too late, and I could feel it, like, end. And I had to go to, like, take a immediate. Like, I had to, like. I was holding that. Yeah. And I had.

[Heath]

I had to be able. I had to tell her, like, I'm.

[Zach]

Like, oh, like, my friends call me. That's weird. I gotta.

[Heath]

I gotta answer this. This is weird. And she's like, why?

[Zach]

Someone's calling you at three in the morning? And I was like, no, I just.

[Zayn]

Must be an emergency.

[Heath]

I said, no, I just have to. Yeah, yeah, must be an emergency. No, but I. I was just.

[Zach]

It's funny, I love when you, like, are lying and then you immediately fold when they question.

[Heath]

Yeah. Because she was like.

[Zach]

She was like, who's calling you at three in the morning? I was like, I just have to take a.

[Heath]

And she's like, okay. But she's, like, laughing and it's.

[Zach]

It was cool, like, when you're able to be honest like that. And so we would. We, like, called, like, straight, like, every day for, like, three hours, like five hours. Like, she's just talking all the time.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And she. She lived in LA for, like, four years. And she just would tell me how, like. Like, you know, it wasn't for her. It wasn't her scene. And, like, she just needed to get away from it. And she'd gone through some stuff and she had moved to Hawaii. Right. And so she was in Hawaii for a while and she was just. She. She was like, I never go out. Like, you know, I have, like, some friends here that I, you know. But she ain't. She mainly just, like, works out and kind of does her thing. And so she would, you know, have all the time in the world, just that we'd just be calling, talking, and I totally would have flown out there. Like, I was like, fully like, yeah, and it's Hawaii. It's not like. I'm like, yeah, you know, it's like, yeah, that's sick. You know, and so I was like. We were just talking more and more and more, and eventually she was gonna be doing. She knew she was gonna be in LA at some point. So I was like, oh, maybe I. I'll see you then. Because I'm probably going around the same time. And then I think she was going on a trip and she wasn't the greatest at texting, but, like, she was going back home and, like. Like, she was gonna be around friends. But, like, it got to a point where, like, the texting was, like, genuinely bad. Like, like, just, like, she would, like, short and dry. Just. Just not even anything. Like, just.

[Zayn]

Oh, she was ghosting you.

[Zach]

Well, kind of. But she would, like, send me memes and. And then I'd, like. I'd, like, respond like. I'm like, oh, that's funny.

[Zayn]

And then you get like a thumbs up.

[Zach]

I'm like, oh, how you doing? And then I'm like. Or no, it's funny. I'd be like, oh, hahaha, how's your day? Like, I'm trying to like, start some.

[Heath]

You know, and she would just leave that on red.

[Zach]

And then she'd like, send more memes and, oh, weird. Oh, like I'm a bad text or whatever. And. But I was like, you know, if anything, I realized in that moment I hadn't realized this before, but I wasn't ready for a relationship because I was so dependent on her, like, for what she, like, her happiness. I was dependent on, like, her to feel happiness that I realized I wasn't ready to be like. Like, I needed to learn how to be alone.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You know, and because of that, I felt, you know, like, the insecurity creeping up, you know, like the void of when she wasn't texting me, everything caving in and being like, you know, dude, why isn't she texting you? Does she like you? But then you'd have to just tell yourself, like, shut the up. Yeah, she was just telling you the other day how much she likes you. You're good, you know, and just trying to, like, you know, feel that and, you know, go through it. And around that time I was like, like, my friends are opening for Cage the Elephant. And this is where Oasis was in town. Oh, opened for Oasis. And Cage was doing a show at El Rey Theater. Yeah, like a solo show. And my friends were opening and they were like, dude, we're gonna be opening. You should pop out. And Cage is one of my favorite bands. And so I was like, yeah, so I was like, a little on edge. I was like, because when you're home, when I'm home, the problem is, it's like I'm so in my comfort, you know, and you're, like, kind of safe, you know, Know, but like, that's not where anything happens, you know, like, you gotta say yes to and just, you know, and so I. I was like, it. Yeah, I'll just go. Because I also needed to get out of my head. I realized that, like, in the absence of her not texting me.

[Zayn]

Yeah, you're getting hung up on it. You need to come.

[Zach]

I need to be with my friends. I need to be out. Like, I can't be, you know, focusing on this. And so I booked the flight and this is like, I'm. I'm very into, like, like angel number.

[Zayn]

Okay, what's your number?

[Zach]

777.

[Heath]

But what, bro, you can't.

[Zayn]

That can't was.

[Heath]

That can't be your. That, that's like every. Everybody's numbers.

[Zach]

Here's the thing. But, like, I don't. When people ask me, what's my number? I don't have a. It's any number that's triple digits. It's, it's a sign, like, of something.

[Zayn]

Okay? So any three repeating.

[Zach]

Any three repeating. But seven is like.

[Zayn]

Seems like you're kind of just.

[Julie]

A.

[Zayn]

Little loose on your requirements here.

[Zach]

No, because it's like I feel like a lot of the. Every time I look up, like, every time in the past I've looked up an angel, I feel like they all kind of are the same.

[Zayn]

Okay.

[Zach]

They're kind of vague. And it's like, I just take it as a sign from God.

[Zayn]

Do you do like that wake up every morning at like, 3, 3, 3?

[Heath]

No.

[Zach]

No. But sometimes you just see it. Like, this example is like, I booked the flight and it was like, I got in at like, 2:22.

[Zayn]

Okay.

[Zach]

Okay. Simple, right? And then I remember right after that, that like a year ago, Teddy Swims. You know Teddy Swims? Yeah, he DM me and he was like, bro, you're a legend. And I was like, bro, I appreciate that. This is like, right before Lose Control or maybe right in the beginning of when that song was, like, really hitting. And I hadn't really talked to him, like, since, like, we had had kind of like a small conversation. And then that night when I booked the flight, after I saw him view my story, I posted a story and I see him view it, and I, I just hit him up. I was like, yo, dude, I just want to say I hope you've been well. I saw Lose Control, did okay, you know, whatever. Yeah, he responded immediately. And he was like, when are you, Are you in la? And I was like, I was gonna, I'm gonna be there, like, in a couple days. And he was like, I'm playing a show on the 9th. I was gonna be flying in on the 7th. He's like, pop out to the show, Greek Theater. And I was like, yeah. So immediately, like, that was feeling like.

[Heath]

Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. And I'm like, okay, great.

[Zach]

So I, I, I get on the flight, and there was, there was like, so much. Like, I remember I, like, work on music as well.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And I just gotten like, the, the master back for a song I've been working on. And I was like, listening to it and it was like, you know, like, like, I, I remember, like, Looking down. I was like, one, one, one was like, the. You know, when I'm listening to it. And I just gotten a text from my friend who's, like, a manager who I met through Leroy Kid Laroi. He's, you know, he's a good friend of mine, and I was at his music video shoot, and I met. I just. I love meeting people, like, talking to people on set. So, like, I was talking to all these people, and one of them was, like, someone who was, like, doing social media. She's a manager as well. Well, for, like, musicians. And she's, like, really close with, like, Zach Brian's main producer. I love Zach Brian. He's like my. Kind of like what I tell people when they say, like, what's your music Like.

[Zayn]

I didn't know you're about that country life.

[Heath]

I do.

[Zach]

Well, the thing. I don't even think it's, like, country. Okay. Just think it's like, singer, songwriter. Like, I feel like. I feel. I kind of feel like country is country if it has a kind of an accent to it. Oh, a little bit. You know?

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So shut the up. But no, but I. She was like, oh, I know his producer. And so we were kind of talking about, like, oh, maybe she's like, oh, maybe you could get in with him. And I was like, yeah, but it's like, kind of, you know, obviously, he's a busy schedule. And anyways, I got the text on the flight of, like, hey, Zach's, like, producer said he's down. Like, he wants to get with. You know, get in the studio with you. Yeah. And just all this shit's happening, and it just felt, like, really cool. And I even wrote down I wonder if I can, like, fine, like, because it was. It was absurd. The amount of, like, triple the angel numbers you were saying, like, insane how much it was happening. Oh, like the day before, like, I got, like, right before I booked the flight. I think I booked it. It was like, 222. And then I, like, went to. I got, like, a notification for, like, PayPal for someone from Instagram, and it was like, $333. Right.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

I'm like, that. And then I'm like, on the plane, I see my song. I look down 111. And then next day, I opened my phone. 333. Oh, no, no. Oh, my God. That was it. When I. When I was looking at the master song, I see the song was at 1, 1, 1, and then the time was 222. Because this is before the time zone. Shifted on the plane. And Anyway, I land 222. And just, like, all the. All these, like, signs, you know, just, like. It sounds, like, corny, but I do believe in that.

[Zayn]

And you're just getting fired up seeing all this.

[Zach]

I'm seeing it. I'm just. I'm getting fired up. And I get there, and first night, I'm. I go to the show, and I love it. It was, like, the coolest because, like, I. I love. It's hard for me to be able to, like, unwind a little bit, like, at a public space.

[Heath]

I thought I was gonna be able to hide it, but it was, like. It was true. But I was like, oh, my God.

[Zayn]

But anyway, that's crazy.

[Zach]

This is a long story. But.

[Heath]

I'm sitting there, I'm tearing up because of how potent it was. I was like, God damn. I think I saw you make a face. Like, it's like, is he crying?

[Zach]

Is he, like.

[Heath]

Is he reminiscing on his past through me?

[Zach]

Wow.

[Heath]

I'm sorry. Keep going, Keep going. But so I land.

[Zach]

I go to this concert. It's my favorite band. Band KG Elephant, or one of my favorite, like, top five. And I'm just fully, like, I am. I'm in the headspace of, like, I'm a dance and be in my own space and, like, have the greatest time and, like, just enjoy every second. Like, not even. Like, my friends went to, like, a place where, like, you could barely see the band. And I like, went in my own, like, alone to, like, be. Look where I could see it.

[Zayn]

Perfect. Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, I had my, like, a little space. I was, like, dancing fully sweating my ass off.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, you know, how embarrassing. Well, that's the thing. Like, it's not embarrassing.

[Heath]

Like, that's how you enjoy it, bro. Exactly. That's a concert.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

And.

[Zach]

But, like, in your head. You get in your head and you're like, oh. Like, you can't but dance. Yeah.

[Heath]

Have a good time.

[Zach]

Literally.

[Heath]

That's what they want you to do. I know. Dance.

[Zach]

So I'm fully, like, in it and just having the greatest time and, like, you know, not even thinking about the girl and, like. But that's, like, whatever, you know? And after the show, we go to this bar down the street from Elay, and with the band, the openers, and we're just all talking and we're, like, bonding immediately. Me and these guys and, like, like, minded people. And, like, I'm saying, one of my favorite bands of the Strokes, they're saying, like, bro, my favorite bands it's just like the vibe is fully there. And we go to the bar and they're like, yeah, I think Brad, who's the guitarist in KG Elephant, he was going to come to the, the bar and I was like, that's sick. And we're all chilling and I think I got, I got to the bar and like me and my friends were laughing, just having a good time vibing. And I like, I opened my phone, it was 11. 11, right. Just like randomly. I was like, that's crazy, you know, because it sounds like to people, but it's like, it's just weird. Like, it's like.

[Zayn]

So I think another thing too, like, because I, I, I have things that I see that will repeat. So I know how you feel when you see it.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

It just makes you feel like you're in the right place at the right time.

[Zach]

Oh yeah.

[Zayn]

And you just, it brings a smile and you're like, things are going right.

[Zach]

That's what I'm saying.

[Zayn]

So like seeing those little things, I totally get what you mean. Like, you just like, okay, it's just like a little.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

A little confidence boost also.

[Zach]

So.

[Zayn]

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So when I'm like fully like in that moment, like when people ask me also like, dude, what's your number? Like, it's genuinely any triple. It's just like a little like, yeah. Nod, you know, like you're, you're doing it, you know. So I, we go to this bar, we're chilling, I see 11. I'm just like having a great time vibing. Brad comes, comes out, you know, and I'm introduced to him and we're talking and he, he's, he heard that I did comedy. And he was saying, he's like, he's like, dude, I, I, I love Andy Kaufman. He's, I love weird. Like, I like making people uncomfortable.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You know, and he's like fully like, he, he, he's like very. And he was right, you know, he.

[Heath]

Does like making people uncomfortable. It's just like.

[Zach]

But he's, he's a vibe. He's super cool. And it was really cool to talk to him and it was cool to get real with him because there's, and I'm going all over the place again, long story, but KG Elephant, they, they were on a program called Sunday Morning Morning, which my parents watch and sometimes, you know, we watch as a family. And they did a segment on KG Elephant. And Matt Schultz, the singer, had gone through something where he had started experiencing delusions.

[Zayn]

So he had like, a psychosis for a while, right? Yeah, I remember seeing that.

[Zach]

Talking about that whole period of time and saying how he separated from his wife because he thought she was in danger because they, you know, they. Whoever they were, were like, after him. Anyway, he was able to come to, and it ended in, like, a. Like a standoff. Like, people at gunpoint. Him, like. Like cops, like, guns drawn because he was. They kicked down his door, like, brought him to the hospital because I think he had guns or something. And he was just erratic, you know, and he. He talked about going to the hospital. They took him off the. The medication he was on, and he, like, came to and he was good, and he ended up. It was like. Like the most beautiful story. Like, he got back together. His wife, like, they had another. Another wedding. And so beautiful. And one of the coolest moments of that interview was the interviewer said, well, Matt, he was talking about. And he was like, I just. I can't believe that I let that happen to me. And the interviewer was like, he's like, you didn't let it happen. It just. It just happened, you know, and that really struck me. And it's. It was such a cool, raw, honest interview that was just amazing. And I was talking to the brother about that. That it was funny because the brother was, like, so, like, laughing, joking, you know, and he's like.

[Julie]

He.

[Zach]

He does bits and like, that doesn't make sense at all, like, saying, like. And he'll, like, react. Like, he'll, like, look you down, like really, like, waiting. Like. Like, it doesn't make any sense. I'm trying to, like, piece it together. And he's just, like, eyeing you down, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then. And then he'll just be like.

[Heath]

It's like being like, yeah, but he's so. He's so cool.

[Julie]

And.

[Heath]

And.

[Zach]

But I got real with him and I told him, you know, the. I was trying to, you know, get deep about that. And he. He said, yeah, man. You know, and he got real. I'm not going to say it on. On air, what he said, but he was just telling me more in depth of, like. It was just a cool moment, man. And then we went, like, kind of. He was talking to other people, and I. I was the label that just signed Cage the Elephant. A girl that works for them, like, came up to me and she was like, oh, my God. Like, I love your music. I think you're incredible. And I was like, thank you so much. And I. It was her. And another Guy who worked there and there, and he had just started working, and we were just all talking, and she was like. She was a little drunk.

[Heath]

Is this happening the same night?

[Zach]

Right.

[Heath]

All the same. Okay.

[Zach]

And she was, like, coming up to me. She was like. She's like. I don't know, like, what you're, like, thinking about, like, signing or anything, but, like, you know, she's like, if you want to go to the White Party, I got you. If you want to go to, like, just so confident. It's like. But I kind of believed it was just like. So you're used. I've, like, had some conversations with labels and stuff, but, like. And you're kind of used to them. Like, like, even. Even. Just, like, with social media, like, people, like, promising the world. Of course. And. But it was. There was something about our confidence that was funny, and she was just like, I just think you're, like, you'd be able to do it. And it was, like, really cool. And I was, all right, let me get your number. And I opened my phone, and it was like, one, one, one, Right? I go, like, right when I'm. Open my phone, I'm not waiting. It's not like, 1, 1, 2. Yeah, yeah. It's like, 101. That's crazy. And. And then this. This is a reach. But, like, in between them, like, they're standing. I look over, and there's a building, and it. This is. This is a reach. But it was like, the address was like, you know, 5545 or something. It was like, I just saw 35 in my head. Like, just, like, weird. Whatever you start making excuses for. Yeah, I'm making excuses. Anyway, I get her number, and it was. It was like, a.

[Julie]

Cool.

[Heath]

Her number was 555. That's a fake number. And so I. I remember I got.

[Zach]

The Uber out of there, and I get in the car, and Teddy Swims comes on. You know, I was like, that's fire. And then I looked to the right, and the. The store was called, like, this.

[Zayn]

It was a Teddy bear store.

[Heath]

This.

[Zach]

This is a reach.

[Zayn]

It was Build a Bear.

[Heath]

This is a reach. But in those moments, you're, like, seeing everything. So, like, you're making up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, no, but I just met.

[Zach]

This person, and I was like, maybe that'll become something. Like, the label. Like, who knows? And I, like, get in the car, and I'm, like, leaving. And the. The store next to me is called the Night We Met. Like, weirdly. And I know that's a.

[Heath]

Okay, okay.

[Zach]

And then Teddy Swims comes on. Like, that's so crazy. I'm about. About to see him and just all this cool was happening, man. And then I went to the Teddy show and. And he was amazing. You know, we bonded immediately. And he's so, like, you know, he seems super chill.

[Zayn]

Like, he just seems like a really cool, down to earth guy.

[Zach]

The most, like, down to earth, cool, most genuine, authentic people I've ever met. Met is Teddy Swims and Kid Laroi. Like, okay. And they're extremely. They're like some of the most famous people I know, which is weird because they're. It's so genuine. Like, when I was first hanging with Leroy, I brought up. We were just making conversation. I said, I was like, you have a brother, right? He was like, so, yeah, man. I got a younger brother, man. And he. He was like. He, like, paused and he was just like, he's way cooler than me.

[Heath]

Like, and it was genuine.

[Zach]

It was very, like, the most gen. He was like. Like, he's so much cooler than me. And I was like, yeah, for sure.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. No, totally. No, but, you know, but that's his character.

[Zach]

He's fully, like, you know, just the greatest guy. And Teddy. Oh, man. Like, he. He was like. He was like, bro, when I saw you, I just knew we would be best friends. Like, he's like, you know, when you see someone, you're like, you know, y' all are going to be homeless. He's like, well, I. I love you, bro. Because, like, we. After the show, we were hanging out and he was like. It was like 1am and he had. He had to fly. He had another show the next day at the Greek, and then he had to fly to Rome, like, that night. And he's been on tour for, like, years, man. Like, he's been killing it and just, like, going with everything. But we were at the show and also, like, it was cool because when we. We hadn't met yet and I saw him because he has to talk to everybody in the after, like, backstage. And so he's walking up to everyone.

[Zayn]

And you're kind of feeling stupid just, like, waiting there. Can we help you, sir? I'm just. I'm waiting for Teddy.

[Zach]

Yeah, he'll be right here.

[Heath]

But he.

[Zach]

We make eye contact a little bit, but he's like, so in it with this other. He's just kind of like, talking this person, and then I just start talking to someone else. And then, like, all of a sudden, I get a bear hug from behind and he's like, I love you, bro.

[Heath]

What's up?

[Zach]

And we're talking, and he's the coolest person. And anyway, we're hanging backstage, and after he was, like, talking everyone, we went to the, like, backstage area. He was showing me tattoos. Was. It was funny. He has a back tat of angel wings.

[Heath]

I actually don't know if I can.

[Zach]

If he wants this. No, I'm sure he doesn't give a. But it was a. He is a. It's cool as. Because I'm. I'm religious. I'm Christian, and he. He has a tattoo of Jesus crossing up the devil. Like, basketball.

[Heath]

Okay. Falling. Oh, okay. And like, Jesus is like, make about.

[Zach]

A dunk, you know?

[Heath]

That's funny.

[Zach]

It's fire.

[Heath]

And then he.

[Zach]

Yeah, he's just. He's a. He's a great vibe, and he's just such a good person. And anyway, he's like, it, bro. I want to keep the party going. It was like 1:30am or something. Yeah. And he was like. He just. Just come to my house. We'll just go to my house, you know. So we get in the car and we're on the way.

[Zayn]

He's got his hand on my thigh, just riding back.

[Heath]

But no, but it's him.

[Zach]

And his uncle's going to meet us there. His uncle?

[Heath]

Oh, yeah. Look, it's. It's. It's public.

[Zach]

Okay, cool.

[Zayn]

Okay, cool. Oh, that's so funny.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Thank God.

[Heath]

And my head was like, I hope. I hope it's not about that, too, because we're gonna have to cut it. Yeah. But anyway, so.

[Zach]

Yeah, so we go to his house, and it was like. We ended up, like, hanging out to, like, 4am but we were there, and it was like, him, me, his uncle was there, some friends of his, and, you know, we were just vibing. It was just a great time. I was. I was talking to him about, you know, what's it like, you know, doing what he does. And, you know, he's a bro. It's a blessing, you know, he is.

[Heath]

He's saying. He's like, bro, it's like.

[Zach]

Like such a crazy reality. Like, he's just like. The dopamine is. Yeah, I feel a dopamine. That's unlike what you should feel.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And it's just. It could be a lot. And we're just talking about that and saying that it doesn't feel like alone, per se, but it's just, you know, it's just you're so used to this lifestyle that any moment that you're alone. You're like, wait, what's that feeling? So, like, you know, but he's so down to earth and such a. Such a cool guy. We go to the house and we're just talking and he's telling me. He's like, bro, like, I just knew we'd be best friends. And like, he said, bro, you ever need a place to stay in Nashville, stay at my house.

[Zayn]

Oh, he's out in Nashville.

[Zach]

I think he has a place there. And then he was his. He's from Atlanta. And he was like, if you're ever in Atlanta, you let me know. You stay at my house. Like, anything you need, bro. If you in la, like, bro, let me know, you know? He's like, I'm coming back, by the way, the 15th, and maybe we can hang out then. And just the coolest guy, he's just concept, bro, I love you. Yeah, I love you, bro.

[Heath]

Dude, meet a couple more people. You're not have to pay rent out here. And. Yeah, but he.

[Zach]

He, like, it was funny, right before I said goodbye, he was like, he's like, we got. And he's like, been drinking, but he's like. He's like, we got pictures, right? And I was like, yeah, we took. And I showed him earlier. And he was like, let's get a selfie. And so like, we take a selfie, you know, and it was just so funny because I was about to leave. Let's get a selfie. So we take a selfie. And he's just like, I love you, man. I love you too, brother. You know, and he. One thing I also noticed about him, he's like, I mean, it makes sense. He's such a teddy bear man. Yeah, that's why he got his name. You know, I'm realizing that. That while we're hanging out. But he's like, all the people that are close to him, he kiss him on the cheek, like his uncle. He's like, he's like, yeah, you know, I don't give. He's like, that's my man. You know, he talks about his dad. He's. We're talking about our dads. He's like, I love my dad so much. You know, like, he's like, my dad's like, you know, one of my best friends too. And, you know, he's like tearing up. You know, he's having a kid too. And he was on stage talking. He has a new song, I think it's called Small Hands. And he was singing that and he was talking about it. Before, and he was crying and, you know, I actually made a joke to the opener, Keon Decrow, who. Incredible. And I was joking with him that like, as if, like the opener would lean over to me when Teddy's like crying about his son. He doesn't even have a kid.

[Heath]

It's Ola. He's like, can't even write this song. No, no.

[Zach]

But he's such a great human being. And he was talking about his son, you know, he's so happy about it. And anyway, it was just an incredible night, you know. And then after that, it was like, pretty open, just kind of chilling in LA and like seeing the signs here and there. I kind of want to pull up my. Because I had to write it down. Dude. It was like insane.

[Zayn]

It's just all feeling like a dream.

[Zach]

I would imagine feeling like, just like weirdly like I. In that. That day, I was like, this is exactly where I need to be.

[Heath]

This, this, this. This is something that was more funny.

[Zach]

That like me and my friend laughed at. Because I was telling my friend who I was staying with at the time, I was telling her the story of the angel number.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Because I was like in the car with her and we're talking. I just saw like, like, you know, you know, 999 or whatever and I'm seeing all this and I'm just like. At this point, it's just.

[Zayn]

Do you ever see the bad triple digit angel number?

[Heath]

What?

[Zach]

666. But I actually, I don't think that's actually a bad one. I. I think. I think you're like, what are you about to say? No, but like, I don't think I could be wrong on this. But like, I think that digit is like, not. I think it was made out to be something that it actually isn't. It's not actually in religion. It's not actually, like. I don't. I could be wrong on that. Okay, but. But yeah, I've seen that. You know what's crazy? Maybe this is a sign. The only time I've seen that. This is crazy. The only time I've seen that digit. The girl who I was talking to, her number was 666. Something I remember in our first phone.

[Heath]

I'm like, that's your.

[Zach]

That's your number.

[Heath]

You accepted that. She's like. She's like, yeah, like, you know, like, I just think it's.

[Zach]

I just wanted the triple digits and like, I just think it's cool.

[Heath]

Wait, which, Wait, this girl you're talking about?

[Julie]

Oh, wow.

[Zach]

And she. And here's the thing is, when you're like dependent on someone else for your happiness.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Based on, you know, them.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

You.

[Zach]

You ignore red flags. You know, you ignore things.

[Zayn]

That was the devil trying to get you to get away from yourself and rely on.

[Heath]

No, that, that's like, that's. That's pretty weird.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Then.

[Zach]

But then it'll come later in the story. But like me calling this girl the.

[Zayn]

Devil, I'm like, that she's.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Heath]

No, but anyway, so like, I barely.

[Zach]

Talked to her in this like, span of time. And like I would text her, man, and just nothing. You know, it was just. There's a level of like, it is disrespectful. Like, I know like there's a period of time where it's like you're with. You know, but like. Yeah, I know. She's not doing anything.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I mean, you can just text, you know, especially after like, you know, the high of like talking every night, five hour, three hour, like conversations, everything to like nothing. Like, even the flight to la, we were just like, like texting the whole, whole day, you know, I mean, and like everything and then just like nothing and it, it felt like a drug, you know, because I was dependent on that, you know, and that's what it was. But, but anyway, that is interesting because the only time I've seen that digit is with her. And what happened was crazy. But I will say everything that did happen was a blessing. Like, happened because I came out so much more like, up than. And I needed that to happen. You know, like things will happen in your life that need to, you know. No.

[Zayn]

100%. I've always said like the darkest, worst times in my life are the biggest blessings in disguise.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

Like the lowest lows of my life were the most pivotal, important moments.

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Zayn]

And like how you bounce back from that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

It's so bizarre.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

But. So here, let me, let me look at the list again. But. Oh, that was, that was funny. Cuz my. I saw like 999. I was talking to my friend about all the angel numbers and she was like. She turned on the radio and we're talking and she was like, she's like, what do you think? She was like laughing about the. Because she didn't necessarily believe it and she's like, so what do you, what do you think you're meant to be? And right then the song was called Superstar.

[Heath]

And it like he yelled like, superstar. Like as soon as she said that and I was laughing that's something that would go to year ago. You're like. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a funny one. That was funny. You see that?

[Zach]

I'm like, you know, whatever.

[Heath]

That's funny.

[Zach]

Anyway, but so I finally, like, you know, I think the girl, like, called me and we were like, on the phone briefly, and she was saying that she missed me and stuff, and, you know, she's just been busy and. And I was like, yeah, you know, I miss you too. And we were just kind of talking and she didn't know yet when she was going to be in la. And. And I think I, you know, because I was wondering because I wanted to extend my stay. I was only going to stay until like, the 13th or like the 12th or something. Yeah. And she. I was kind of, like, waiting on her because I knew I wanted to see her, you know, and anyway, so she ended up, like, texting me, like, maybe the next day, being like, all right, I'm gonna be in on the 15th. I'm gonna be here. And this is September. Yeah. Right. So that she's like, I'm gonna be here 15th. I'm so excited to see you. You know, I was like, all right. But that. And then I'm trying to, like, it's been so. It's so much has happened since. That's like, that's all right. I don't remember the little details of, like, what happened, but I just remember her texting me the 15th, and I was, all right, I'mma I switch my flight.

[Zayn]

This is going to be her first time meeting her. Yeah. In person.

[Zach]

First time. First time. So the edge of.

[Heath]

I'm literally on the edge of my seat. I'm like, what the.

[Zach]

Is all right. So it was the 15th, and I was like, bet. So I moved my flight. Flight. And I'm just kind of chilling until then, you know, whatever. And the other part of the story that's bad is I be again, I keep bringing it up, but, like, I was dependent on it. So, like, I was counting on that moment. Like, I was so. And I feel like, you know, if we're talking about, like, manifestation, like, people will say, like, you have to, like, let go, you know, you have to. It's like what I talk about when I, like, really hit on Tick tock. Like.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I had to, like, be able to let go of the idea of. Of wanting to hit.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, being envious of it for it to happen. And it's like when you create that, like, turmoil, you know, for some reason, it just like, blocks the thing.

[Heath]

I believe that. I believe that for everything. Everything in life, if you just stop thinking about it or don't, like, over. It just comes to you naturally.

[Zach]

It's nice. Exactly. And so with her, like. But I was. I was so. The expectation was so high, like, of, like, I, you know, everything. And so I moved the flight, you know, I'm like, you know, just chilling. Not. Not too many plans. Seeing friends, you know, whatever. And I actually. I remember I was. I was. I was in Malibu and I was looking out, like, at the. It was like, at the ocean. Yeah. Yeah. Like, super dramatic.

[Heath]

Just, like.

[Zach]

And I was like. I was kind of wondering because I was still feeling that, like, you know, insecurity inside me of, like, is she even the one? Like, I don't know. Like, I just felt weird. It didn't feel like it should be, like. Like this. And I feel like I was, like, kind of talking to God about it. I was like. I feel like I said something. Like, I was like, is she the one? And it was like, I should say.

[Heath]

It all for, is she the one? Does she love coming out of the water? Jesus, no. But I.

[Zach]

So I see. I'm, like, looking at the moon. I'm like, you see the one? And I. I hear in my head, like. Like, that's up to you, you know, and it was like, this cool. Like, I. I didn't know what that meant of, like, if that was a good thing or a bad about after the fact. Like, you know, it makes more sense. But anyway. And I do believe, like, people, you know, are like, how can you can hear God's voice? Like, you definitely can if you, like, open yourself up to that. There's even a practice where if you write down, like, ask it just, like, allow yourself to kind of, like, speak as if you're. That sounds bad, but, like, write down, like, a question and just keep writing of, like, the answer. And, you know, it's. Anyway. But I had these weird moments and then. And the expectation was so high. And the day before, she was like. She had been on a trip this whole time, just with friends, just, like, chilling.

[Heath]

This is the Hawaii trip that.

[Zach]

So she lived in Hawaii, and then she did a trip. She was like. And it was like, a lot of. She went, like, to Santa Cruz, where she's from, and then she went to San Francisco for a shoot and then back to Santa Cruz to chill with, like, her friend or whatever. And so in the beginning of that, I was like, of course she's gonna be busy. Like, it Makes sense. But then it was, like, weeks, like, that. She just was, like, not. Not, like, terrible at texting. And Anyway, so the 15th, the day before, she called me, and she's. She's like. I just. This is the first time we're, like, really talking, and she goes, I just.

[Heath]

Got into taking my brother.

[Julie]

What the.

[Zach]

So she calls me and she goes. She goes, okay, I just landed back in Hawaii. You're the first person I'm calling. I missed you so much. Like, I could feel how. I could tell how much I miss you by the amount I wasn't laughing like. Like that, where I was just like. It was, like, everything that I wanted to hear. Yeah. You know, I mean, okay. Amazing. And she was like. I was telling her. She's like, what'd you do today? I was like, I was on the phone with my parents, and she's. Oh, my God. Like, I was like, Whatever the story I was. I was telling about, she's, oh, my God, I can't wait to meet him. You know? And I'm like. And she would always speak in, like, it was a given. I mean, like. Like. And just, like, be the most affectionate, like, in certain moments, like, on the phone, of just, like, saying, like, it was a given, you know, of being like, it's gonna happen for sure. Which was assuring.

[Zayn]

Which was, like, a promise of the future. Like, it's.

[Zach]

Yeah, I don't have to worry about it, you know? And so she's on the phone with me, and she's saying. She's like, I can't wait to meet your parents. And I was like, I know you'd love them. And she. She's. She said, like, I know I would because they made you. And I'm like, bro, wow.

[Zayn]

She's gassing you up.

[Heath]

And it felt amazing.

[Zach]

Amazing, dude. And it was like, I'd even, like. You know, I told. I, like, bought a new shirt or something. And she's like, well, I'm stealing that. And I was like, have it.

[Heath]

I was like, I would give you.

[Zach]

Every shirt I own. Like, I fully, like, you know, everything.

[Zayn]

I'll open up a factory.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Because that's everything. Like, if I can give something like mine to you, that gives you, like, anything. Like, bro, I watched a show because she, like, she's like. It was her favorite show she was watching. She was like, I love this. You have to watch it. And if it made me feel more connected to where I was, I watched that whole show.

[Julie]

What was the show?

[Heath]

Yeah, it was love.

[Zach]

No, it was I think it's called the terminal list. Okay.

[Heath]

Oh, okay.

[Zach]

Chris Pratt.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Navy seal. And also her. Both of. She had told. This is funny early on in our conversation. She told me about, you know, her past. Like, her ex boyfriends. He was a seal, Special Ops, both of them.

[Heath]

And I was like, duh. Yeah, for sure.

[Zach]

Yeah, totally.

[Zayn]

And you're just special.

[Heath]

And I'm just special. Yeah, yeah, he's a special.

[Zach]

And I would, Dude, I would try and make jokes here, and they're like. It was funny because at one point I was like, she loves the show about a Navy seal. And I. It was hard not to watch that and be pictured.

[Heath]

Yeah. And I opened up. I, like, made that joke to her.

[Zach]

Because, like, I don't give a. Like, I am able to, like, make a joke about it.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Vulnerable and, like, tell you, like, whatever. And she, she told me. She's like, like, she's like, it's funny. I never thought of it like that, but, like, they wouldn't have ever been at that vulnerable as you just telling me that. So, like, that's what I love about you.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You know, and like that. But she's on the phone with me. She's like, I miss you so much. You know, I could tell how much I miss you by how much I wasn't laughing, whatever. All this, like, very affectionate. And she's like, all right. So she's also. She does, like, acting. And she was like, all right, so I have a shoot. I get in at, like 5am I don't know how much sleep I'm going to get, but I get in at, like, for hair and makeup at like 10aM Am so I don't know how long I'm gonna be at the shoot, but I'm gonna make this happen. We're gonna do this. Like, I have one day in la. I'm gonna see you. Right? And I'm thinking, yeah, yeah, right. You know, and she's like, I. We would always talk about movies. Like, bond about movies. I even, bro, she would, she would. Because, like, I care. Like, I would, like, keep a list of that. She likes.

[Zayn]

No, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

You know, like, absolutely, you know.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's never done that in his life. I know he's gonna end this ser. And then I woke up. You know what's funny is I'm so glad that I'm telling this to y'.

[Julie]

All.

[Heath]

It's like, you guys are the most bro. Like, cool, like, relatable.

[Zach]

Anyway, so, anyway, so she, I. I would keep A list of, like, she loved. And, like, she would. She would joke about it because I mentioned it. She was like, put that on the list. Like, put that on the list. We're doing this. You know what I mean? And then I told her my favorite movie was Secret Life of Walter Mitty. And do you know that movie?

[Zayn]

No.

[Zach]

You gotta watch it.

[Zayn]

Secret Life of Walter Mitty. Okay.

[Zach]

Beautiful. Okay. It's a Ben Stiller movie. He directed it. He starred in it. And it's. It's incredible. Yeah.

[Zayn]

Cool.

[Zach]

Yeah. And anyway, it's my favorite movie. And I told her that before, and we would bond over movies, and I. I mentioned that movie randomly that day when we were talking about, like, when she was going to be in, and she was like, that's what we're doing. You're gonna come to my hotel. I don't know how much time I'm gonna have. Have. You can just sleep over and we'll just watch that movie, get snacks, you know? And she's like, telling me, like, a niche. Like, she's like, I'm literally having butterflies for you.

[Heath]

Butterflies in my pit. Amazing.

[Zayn]

And you guys have been talking for a month and a half leading up to this.

[Zach]

A month? Like, maybe a month.

[Heath]

A month?

[Zach]

Yeah, like a month.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

And she was like, fully just, like. I mean, maybe a little bit less than a month. Because I'm trying. I don't really remember. It felt like a long time. Okay. Yeah. You're spending hours on the phone, like, getting to know someone, texting them all the time, thinking about it, you know, whatever, whatever. But I told her, like, see, like, randomly. And she said, we're watching that. That's what we're doing. You're gonna come to my hotel. I don't know what time, but we're gonna make it happen. We're gonna watch that movie and you can just sleep over. We'll cuddle and.

[Heath]

Yeah, whatever.

[Zach]

I'm like, perfect. This is great. And weird. I was gonna bro. She was like. She's like, oh, I don't know what hotel they booked me. But, like, you know, she's like, oh, she's joking. Like, I hope. I hope it's like, a nice one. Whatever. And she mentions that she loves the addition, that hotel. And randomly is, like, going, just. I. One thing I loved about her was she would always, like, ramble about, like, the most random. And I just loved every second. I just like listening to everything, you know? And she was like, the addition. Like, I, I. That's my favorite, like, hotel out there. They Have. She's like, oh, my God. They have this candle that's, like, the most. It's like. It's my favorite scent in the world. And so I look up, like, the candle, like, you know, I put that in the list. You know, put that in the list, right? Anyway, so she's talking about the addition. I was gonna book a room there for sure. Like, you know, if. But I wanted to wait to see, like, you know, what time, because I figured, like, oh, I'll just, you know, whatever. Yeah. And that was in my mind and just want to make this, like, perfect, you know? And anyway, so she was like. I had to, like. I was. I think I was, like, going to dinner or something. So I was like, all right, I'll text you, whatever. And so we get off the phone, and she texts me immediately in the car, like, two songs. And she's like, what if you sang this for me? And, like, played it for me in person? And I'm like, bro, like, it just seems like a.

[Zayn]

It's like, yeah, yeah, the stars are all aligning.

[Heath]

Yeah, it's great.

[Zach]

She's like, saying all this sweet. And she was like, oh, what if we watch this movie? Whatever. And. Or no, like, what. Have you sang this for me? And so I'm listening to that song. I'm like, you know, I'm, like, trying to learn it.

[Zayn]

Trying to run through them real quick.

[Zach]

She even called me, like, after, after. And what was so great about this night was I went to, like, Airwon to, like, get, like, dinner or something, and I was just kind of sitting by myself, and I. I remember I was just, like, thinking about it, and there was this guy who came up to me. He was with, like, three girls, and he was like. He was like, yo, like, I love your videos. I appreciate that, man. We took a picture, and then we just started talking. Like, me and, like, the girls didn't know who I was. It was she. He was, like, one of the brothers of, like. Like, his sister was one of the girls. And it was her birthday weekend, and she was. She had a. They had a reservation at Uovo, okay. Right next to Erwan. And we were just all talking vibe. They're asking me about, you know, whatever. And they were like. They were like, our reservation. Do you want to come to dinner with us? And I was like, yeah. Like, that's.

[Heath]

That's.

[Zach]

That's what I genuinely mean when I say, like, I love meeting people. That's my favorite part about what I do. And it was just such a good vibe. You know, and I'm telling them, like, you know, about this girl. And, like, you know, they're excited for me. Whatever. And anyway, I get a call from her, like, after the dinner, like, they leave. We go separate ways, which is a cool vibe. And they. I get a. I get a call from the girl, and she's like, she always misses her flights. And she, like, called me. She's like, oh, my God. Like, I almost missed my flight. Like, I think I missed some text where she was texting me, like, oh, my God, I'm about to miss my.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Oh, my God. You know, whatever. And then she calls me. She's like, okay, I got it. And we're laughing about it. She's like, but look, I'm so excited. Excited. Like, I'm so excited. She's, like, telling me, I'm so stoked. This is gonna be amazing. And she's like, all right. So I. I get in, like, off a red eye at, like, 5am she's like, I really don't know. It's hard for me to sleep on flights. Yeah. So she's like, I don't know. I'm gonna try. You know, there's a period of time in between, like, the, you know, 10am flight or the 10am and 5am when she gets in, whatever. But she's like, we're gonna make it. This happens happen, though. And so anyway, she's like, all right, so I'm about to get on the flight. I'll text you tomorrow. I was, all right, great. And so next morning, I wake also in that call, she was telling me that. She's like, oh, my God, I was thinking about you because I saw these angel numbers. Like, I saw, like, it might have been 333 or something. She's like, I wanted to send you a picture. And, you know, I was thinking about you, whatever. But anyway. And that was, like, the first time she had kind of.

[Heath]

Were you telling her about all the angel numbers that you received throughout the. Okay.

[Zach]

Not. I don't know if I had. Oh, there was a moment where we had a brief call where I was telling her about the Teddy swim. And, like, yeah, okay. And that was a cool thing. And she was like, I sent her the pictures. I think it was actually that phone call where she was like, I just got into Hawaii. But she was like, I was sending her the pictures of me and Teddy, and she was like, you look so cute. You know, you look so. You know, I'm like, my stomach is sick right now.

[Heath]

I'm about To. Yeah, I don't.

[Zayn]

There's no way.

[Heath]

Yeah, okay.

[Zach]

Okay.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. So he's like, I'm not even halfway.

[Zayn]

And I'm just started here. Wait until I get.

[Heath]

I so wish I could tell you.

[Zach]

Like the big like. Like it's just the name. I can't say the name, but there. But like she text. I wake up to a text from her and it was a picture. She had just got into LAX and she saw 666 like on the number she sent me that she's. Oh my God. Like cuz she knew I liked angel numbers Again, another.

[Heath]

Why, why, why, why this. This is getting dark.

[Zayn]

Me as a Christian also, if somebody was like, yo, check this out.

[Heath]

Well, no, I guess if.

[Zayn]

If she would have been like, yo, excited to see you tonight. Look at this sign 666.

[Heath]

I'd be like, I wouldn't see her.

[Zach]

I think I had heard somewhere that it genuinely is like something that is a miscommunication. Like it's not actually associated. Spoken by the devil.

[Zayn]

Like that.

[Heath]

It doesn't.

[Zach]

There's no reference to that. That I'll actually send you the night that she. That I was looking at the moon. Dramatic like thinking about her, like, oh, is she the one? I got a DM from her of like she would bro. She would always. She'd always be like, she. I'm very like when I'm talking to someone, I do not like talking about like sexual anything because I don't want that to ruin like any of that when it actually does happen. And also I feel like really it ruins like because I don't want to. There's no relationship that should be built on that. And also like hookup culture. Like, you know, like the times that I've like tried it, it just wasn't at all like I like couldn't do it because I was like, I don't know you. I was. It was so weird. I felt like I needed to random detour. But. But she would like joke with me because she knew it made me uncomfortable and she thought it was funny. Like being the girl she. She would make like jokes about sexual. Like, you know, that was very flirty and kind of nice to hear, but still I would just kind of lock up and not, yeah, anything. But it was funny. That night she sent me. She sent me like a meme that was like, I'm having so much anxiety.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zayn]

We look at the dm, it's Angelina Jo. He's like, yeah, look what she sent me.

[Heath]

It's stupid.

[Zayn]

She was trying to be dirty and sexy with it.

[Zach]

She would always hint at, like, she knew that she was up okay. She had that she needed to work on. And, like, it was almost like, her revealing to me that, like. Like, one time I looked back at this text, and it was, like, so crazy to see, but she had texted me. She would always, like, point out, she's like, you're such a good guy. Like, you're so. You're. She was like, you're so, like, unbroken by life. And she's, like, been very. She's had a lot of. In her life where she just doesn't see life the way I do. And I would try and, like, read a situation differently according to, like, it's like half glass full.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You know, and, like, looking at the good. And she would always just. It would be in disbelief to that. And I would look back at this text, and it was so crazy to see after the fact because she had text me like, you're so unbroken by life, and then joked like, let me fix that. And, like, there's some jokes have truth to them.

[Julie]

Okay.

[Zach]

Some people are very like, yeah, telling by what they joke about.

[Zayn]

Right, right, right.

[Zach]

Like, I felt like there was truth to that. And in the moment I text her.

[Heath]

About, I was like, what? I was like, hopefully not, you know, like, hopefully, you know, you don't. You know, And I feel like you weren't giving her signs that you were a broken person.

[Zach]

Like.

[Heath]

Yeah, it's not that I'm.

[Zayn]

She's like, she wanted to break you. She wanted.

[Zach]

She wanted to ruin your life.

[Zayn]

She wanted.

[Zach]

Well, no, she just seemed. Seemed like she was like, she knew what she was or she knew her.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

And that my. Was very, like, different, you know? And, like, I had had a very.

[Zayn]

Yeah, it's like. It's like those bug chasers.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was also funny because, like, in the same thread, like, she liked this, like, thing and, like, it's like, a lot of, like, devil, like, in this.

[Zayn]

Like, this could be us, but you praying.

[Zach]

Wild.

[Heath]

So this is weird for me because I'm.

[Zach]

I. I'm.

[Heath]

I'm connecting that with the tattoo. The b. Your guy's tattoo back tattoo.

[Zach]

What do you mean?

[Heath]

Oh, yeah, yeah. So, like, seeing if I, like, she sent you that and then seeing that days before, I'm like, it's a battle, man.

[Zayn]

Good versus evil.

[Zach]

Next day comes around, she texts me the. She saw the 666, and that's, like, kind of her number, which is so crazy to see. It's like. It's like this was written, you know, because that's the angel number that I don't really see and I don't want to see. Also, it's not an angel number you normally see because time doesn't go like that. Like, six isn't a time. Time. But she saw it and she, like, sent it to me. And there was a part of me in my head, like, making excuses. Like, even when I saw those.

[Heath]

The.

[Zach]

The memes.

[Heath]

Like, she's cool, though. Like, you know, like, it's a joke, right? Like, she's good.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Or I'll fix her. Yeah, bro, I'll fix her for sure.

[Zayn]

Oh, dude. I'm just gonna pray for her tonight. We'll be good.

[Heath]

We'll be good.

[Zach]

And then, so. So it was like at 5am when she got in, she, like, text me that and the picture, and she's. Oh, my God. God. And then I woke up around, like, the 10:30, which was when she got in. So I text her, I say, like, hey, I know you're gonna kill it. Have a great day. You know, And I, you know, I was gonna text her, like, later. I didn't know when. And then, like, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna get the candle. I'm gonna get the candle. I'm gonna go to the store where they sell it. Yeah. And I. I went to the store, and it was like, maybe an hour before they closed. Closed or it's online, it said, and they weren't open. So it's like. So I go to the edition to get the candle from the edition, and they're like, I'm sorry, our spas, like, clothes where we sell it. And they're also like, oh, we don't. We don't use that candle anymore. We have our own, like, scent, whatever. But I was like, it. Like, I'll.

[Heath]

It'll show.

[Zach]

Like, if anything, it's probably based on the scent. Like, I'll. I'll just get that. And so. But there was closed. And then I. My friend. I ran into my friend who lives in the penthouse there, and he was like. I was like, bro, can I steal your can candle? He was like, what? And I'm like, I just. Yeah, I just can't. I see. He's like, sure, yeah, yeah. So I go up to his apartment or, you know, whatever, and I get the, you know, candle. You know, I'm like, cleaning it off. Wow.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

You're committed.

[Heath]

You're committed right now.

[Zach]

You are getting.

[Heath]

This is gonna Be a perfect day for you. Perfect night. Yeah.

[Zach]

And so it's around, like, seven now. It's like, seven. And, like, I haven't gotten a text, but, like, usually shoots go from, like, 10 to 10. She also said, like, I might get off her Harley, because there's a smaller part, but, like, you know, I'm just not betting on that. Yeah. And so I'm not really tripping yet, but, like, there's the kind of inkling of, like, the worry of the insecurity in me being like, yeah, what if it doesn't. You know?

[Heath]

But you're just like, shut up.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And I go. I go to text her. I'm in the car. I'm like, hey, are you still at the shoot? And I look up and I see the license plate said 777. It said. Actually, I think it was 9 Love Luv. 777. And so I was like, all right, that's it. I'm chilling. I'm good. You know, and so I see that. And hair looking good, by the way.

[Heath]

Yeah, it looks amazing. Okay, cool. Okay, thank you. No, no, but. But.

[Zach]

So, yeah, so I saw the. That, and I was like, all right, cool. And then I, like, got home. I, like, you know, iron my. Everything.

[Heath]

Okay. Get it out the laundry, like, all my nicest. I'm, like, getting everything ready.

[Zach]

And. And then, like, also, this is. Is my problem. This isn't even, like, something that is on anyone else, but because, like, I have ocd. Like, I'm a germaphobe. Like, I. Sometimes if there's something really important happening, I won't eat the whole day. Because in my mind, I'm like, what if I get food poisoning or something? Like, yeah, like, I can't have anything happen, so I will not. Like, I didn't eat anything. Also, I. I didn't eaten, like, at that time. I hadn't eaten in, like, 24 or, like, 20 hours or something. And, like, at that point, like, you're kind of. I don't know if you've ever, like, fasted that long, but it's like. It's. You know, you kind of get used to it a little bit. It's not that bad. But, like, still, I hadn't eaten anything, and I was gonna eat with her.

[Heath]

It was whatever.

[Zach]

And anyway, so it was like seven when I texted her, and then I. I think maybe I even called her. And then nothing. But I was like, yeah, she's. She's working. And then it was around, like.

[Heath]

It.

[Zach]

Was around, like, maybe, like, 11 that, like, still nothing.

[Heath]

And.

[Zach]

Okay, I said, hey, let me just. I'll get the receipts out.

[Julie]

Okay?

[Zach]

Just. Just a reason.

[Heath]

Oh, my God, I hate where this is going. I know, I know. Oh, my God.

[Zayn]

And you're just chilling there alone? Just.

[Heath]

Yeah, you're there.

[Zach]

Yeah. I got the candles, I got my clothes ready. And it's. It's 10:38am I text her essay or. No, that was. That was in the morning. I said, have a great day. I know you're gonna kill it. And then it was 7:49. I said, hey, are you still at the shoot? I think I called her, didn't answer. I was out, whatever. It was 11, 11:23pm And I said, is everything okay? And then I called her. Nothing, right? Because then at that point, usually shoots are like 10 to 10. Yeah, maybe. But then I'm thinking, okay, maybe starts earlier.

[Heath]

Maybe it's, you know, 12 to 12.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

I called. I even called one of me.

[Zach]

And so Leroy, like, his team, like, his creative director, Nick, he's like one of my favorite people. People like that. All them are so cool. And like, he. When I was on the music video shoot with them, he's. You know, they're used to being on those shoots. And so I remember calling Nick and I was like, yo, just checking, like, shoots. Like, how long do those usually go?

[Zayn]

Yeah, because they would, like, break, right? Because it would be like a violation if they kept working through that. Yeah.

[Heath]

They can't have their phones on set, right? Yeah.

[Zach]

Thing or they can't text. Right.

[Heath]

That's so funny, because when I told him this, he was like, no, bro. Yeah, that's when, you know.

[Zach]

And weirdly, he was actually break. He was breaking up with someone. When I called him, like. And I called him and they were like, you know, done, I think. And he, like. And he was like, no, I think it's like 10. Whatever. And he's. I love him, bro. When I told this story to, like, everyone like, that when the whole group.

[Heath]

Like, me, had dinner, it was like they were just like, fully.

[Zach]

It's okay. So 11, I say, is everything okay? Nothing. Right? I call her.

[Zayn]

No.

[Zach]

And. And then, like, I'm thinking, I feel like the shoe would be over. And she even mentioned. She said she would always say, like, oh, I hate LA parties. Right? And she said there was an afterparty for this, but she's like, I'm not going to that. I don't give a. I'll just see you.

[Zayn]

Right?

[Zach]

And I'm thinking, what time would this. Afterparty be. You know what I mean? And so at 12:51, still nothing. And I. I text her again. I just say. I say I don't get. Get it. Like, you can't even. Because at that point, I'm like, this seems too. Too long. I think I called her first and nothing. Called her again. Nothing. At this point.

[Heath]

I don't give a.

[Zach]

Like, I'm like, yeah, like, you know, you're getting.

[Zayn]

You're getting agitated now.

[Zach]

Yeah, Yeah, a little bit. And I said. I just said, I don't get it. You can't even text me after talking about all that we talked about.

[Heath]

Yeah, she sends you.

[Zayn]

She sends you a picture back in a tank with a bunch of seals or something.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

But. But no, but I said. I just said, I don't get it. Like, you can't even text me after talking about what we talked about. And then it was like 3am Nothing. Like, no t. Just nothing. And I just didn't. I never heard from her.

[Zayn]

And that was so.

[Zach]

So that was after that. Right? And I did end up hearing from her again, but it was two weeks later.

[Zayn]

There's no way.

[Heath]

Wait, wait.

[Zayn]

There's no way.

[Heath]

Have you ever FaceTimed with a other.

[Zach]

Okay, so this was a question. This was a question.

[Heath]

Wait, wait, wait. God, wait. Damn it.

[Zach]

Dude.

[Heath]

I couldn't actually had an Android. It's even. It's even worse than this.

[Zach]

It's even worse than this. She wasn't a catfish. Because, like, I was at dinner with. I was telling the Roy about this and. And Nick and, like, the whole group, like, they just got off their last music video, which is called a Cold play. Great song.

[Heath]

Okay. A little shout out for him. Check it out. And what's funny is, like, I was.

[Zach]

I was like. When, like, the end of this story is I was like, that song is so, like, in line with, like, I'm like, listening to my. One of my friends.

[Heath]

I'm just like, yeah, you know, But I was telling.

[Zach]

They were. They just finished shooting. We were getting food, and I was telling them the story, and they brought that up. They were like, wait, have you ever FaceTime? And I was like, no.

[Heath]

They're like, oh, no, no, no, no. And so they're like, bro, give me your Instagram.

[Zach]

Give me your Instagram right now. So I check her, I check her. I give them the Instagram. And she was like, a model on, like a. Like a shoot for, like, an artist.

[Heath]

Yeah, right?

[Zach]

And they. They had, like, seen, like, someone who was a director on that shoot who followed her. So they're like, okay, so it's. She's real. Okay, so it's official and it's funny cuz they're looking at the pictures and like the old pictures of her. I should have definitely like known like this was coming. Like, I'll show you guys a picture of her.

[Julie]

Okay.

[Zach]

Won't show it, but like, like it's.

[Heath]

You'd be like, Zach, like, you know, like.

[Zach]

But she. In her. In my mind, she had told me, like, yeah, you know, I got away from that, you know, like I was there for four years.

[Heath]

Like, okay, this is from like maybe.

[Zach]

Like 2021 or so. I just want to show you this context really quick.

[Heath]

You're just. You're just going to show us right now what a picture where like I.

[Zach]

Totally should have known a picture from like 2022. But like, still.

[Heath]

You're like, bro, you can't it.

[Zach]

But like my romantic ass is like.

[Heath]

Bro, like, no, she's cool. She's so cool. You know what I mean?

[Zayn]

But like, like I'm so nerv.

[Heath]

He's like, I know this chick.

[Julie]

I'm just.

[Heath]

I'm taking a.

[Zach]

It's just.

[Zayn]

Just your. Your average la squirrely.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

Just. You're like, okay, yeah.

[Zach]

But also like in that situation, like, I also don't want to. She was so cool, right? When we talked, I didn't give a. I was like, I rarely feel this way with someone. Right. But so anyway, so I never heard anything that night.

[Zayn]

That's crazy. She just never responded.

[Zach]

It was like 3am and I started laughing because like I was just like fully in it. I was like, nothing. Like I can't even get a text. Like, not like, not even. Like I like I'm trying to make. I'm trying to rationalize it in my mind. I'm trying to make excuses. I'm like, you know, maybe like, maybe she like, you know, was having such a good time with the crew. Like she wanted. This still isn't an excuse, but like.

[Zayn]

It'S literally the epitome of your original video.

[Julie]

Knows.

[Heath]

I know.

[Zayn]

Yeah, she probably. She probably was getting up late. She's having a good time.

[Zach]

That's literally.

[Zayn]

Maybe they ran over.

[Zach]

It gets worse too because like you're talking about the. The initial. I've said that too. About like I manifest. People are like, bro, you manifest in fame. Yeah, I'm like, I also manifested apparently. Yeah. I came up so up from the situation. I'm so grateful that it happened. Like, I love that this happened in my life, and, like, so much good came from it that, like, I'm so good, you know? But, like, in the moment, it just sucked. Yeah. I mean, because also, she just wasn't the person that I thought she was. I thought she was someone that she wasn't. Yeah. You know, and so. You psychopath. Smiling.

[Heath]

No, no, no. I. I just. Can't you speak? I'm waiting. Also, because you said two weeks, and then we. You got cut off.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Heath]

You said two weeks later. What?

[Zach]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Julie]

So.

[Zach]

But there's. There's stuff that happens in between those.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

Next day, my manager, Revan, he. He goes to soho, Malibu, a lot, and, like, he'll, like, work from there. It's like, cool. And I just needed to get away. Like, I needed to, like, go be by the beach and be dramatic, you know?

[Heath]

I needed to look out. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Zach]

So I was like, I'm just. I'm. I'm gonna go there. And I hadn't cried yet, and I knew it was, you know, it was coming. It was.

[Heath]

Oh, yeah.

[Zach]

It was gonna happen. And I remember I was like. I was, like, listening to music on the. In the Uber ride there, and I remember feeling, like, looking out the ocean. She loved the ocean. Talked about it all the time. And I remember just, like. Like, looking at that ocean being like.

[Zayn]

The ocean never, like the.

[Heath]

Be. Sand, sand. But I was, like, fully, like.

[Zach]

Like, listening to music, like, sag, folk music that I love, you know, Just like, also music that in a different, like, perspective I would listen, being like. And think of her because it. Like, it made me feel happy. But now it's like, I'm listening to, like, she had sent me some, Like, I think some of the songs or something. But anyway, I'm listening to that. I'm like. I could feel the tears coming, you know? But I was like, let me just. I'm not gonna cry in this Uber, bro. I'm not gonna do that to the driver.

[Heath]

He's, like, looking in the rear, like, are you good?

[Zach]

And I know that when it comes out, you're gonna go, yeah, you're gonna cry. But so I. My plan was. I was like, all right, I'm. I'm gonna get a burger and I'm gonna go to the beach and cry like that.

[Heath]

That was bullying. That sounds, like, really nice.

[Zayn]

That sounds like rock bottom.

[Heath]

Get a burger and Coke.

[Zayn]

Yes, dude. But honestly, that sounds like it would help.

[Heath]

Yeah, right?

[Zach]

And I also didn't want to look at anyone's issue.

[Zayn]

Yeah, no, but that's okay.

[Zach]

Like, you.

[Zayn]

Every. Every right to go do that.

[Zach]

I'm. Yeah, yeah.

[Heath]

I'm.

[Zayn]

It's so justified.

[Zach]

Try that, right?

[Heath]

But.

[Zach]

So I go there, I get my burger, I'm chilling, and then I'm like, still. I'm kind of numb because before I cry, like, you kind of are holding back emotion, so you're kind of, like, just a little stone cold. I don't know. Just kind of not there. And I remember I kind of, like, looked to the. Behind me, and there was an actor who was in a show that I loved. It was like a niche show. It was called Rome. It was like a show that I liked. It was really random. Like, I saw him, and he was in Gray's Anatomy, too. And I saw him and I. I kind of, like, double ticked. And then he kind of gave me, like, a courtesy smile. He was like, you know, like, what's up? And I saved it. I was like. I was like, excuse me. I don't want to bother you. You're also not supposed to talk. Talk to people. Like, he's the Scottish guy.

[Heath]

Kevin.

[Zach]

Kevin, yeah. Yeah.

[Zayn]

Okay. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

So I see him, and it was like a double take because I'm not expecting. And, you know, there's a lot of, like, actors, famous people here and soho and. But I saw him, and it was like. It was kind of random. And. But I saved. He was also the Poseidon and, like, Percy Jackson.

[Zayn]

Oh, cool.

[Julie]

Cool.

[Heath]

Okay. You know, like, kids like that are. Oh, yeah, no, but same.

[Zach]

I. Yeah, great. A lot of people hate on that movie, but I love that movie. But anyway. And I have read the books, but okay, so I see him, and I, like, saved it because I, like, made eye contact with him. And you're not supposed to, like, talk to people really there. And I, like, see him, and I'm like. I'm like, excuse me. What's that. What's that shirt you're wearing? I'm like, dude.

[Heath]

And he's like, oh, this? He's like, immediately like, oh, this? He's like, bro. He's like, what is it?

[Zach]

And he's like. He's like, asking me to, like, pull.

[Heath]

On his car to, like, check it.

[Zach]

I'm like, oh. I'm, like, pulling his collar.

[Heath]

He's like.

[Zach]

I'm like. It says, I forget Johnston and Elgin, I think, is the name or something. And he's like, oh, yeah. He's like. He's Scottish. He's like, from my hometown. It's like a cashmere or, like, whatever. It's a cool, random moment. Like, you know, I didn't say that I knew who he was. Kind of, like, cool. Left it at that, you know.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And then. Yeah, that was. That was it. And he kind of, like, you know, went on his way, whatever. And then I'm like, back in my, you know.

[Heath]

You know, just kind of feeling.

[Zach]

Or not feeling.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Numb. And then Rico from Hannah Montana walks in.

[Julie]

Yes.

[Zach]

Moises Aras.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Hell, yeah.

[Heath]

And seen him a couple times out here.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. And he walks in. It's just kind of. You're just kind of like, what? Like, what is. Like, what is. It's just, like, so random, like, but you're just kind of like, you. You're just like. All right, it's not that. No, you do.

[Heath]

You do see. You do. You do see quite a few people out there. It's so. It's SoHo, right? That's where you're in right now.

[Zach]

Yeah. And so I saw him, and it was just kind of like, you're just like, what's. You know, whatever. And then Jaden Smith walks in.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

He's got, like, the most, like, Jaden Smith outfit on, you know, And I'm thinking, I'm. And it's like, curb your enthusiasm fully, like, yeah, whatever. And they were going to be going to the beach, whatever. But it was, like, so just, like, weird reality to be, like, going through a breakup. And, like, it's. It's me looking back on, like, where I'm at right now in my life.

[Heath]

And I'm like, what the. You know? And it even gets crazier.

[Zach]

Right? So as a representation of that. But. So I see them, and I think I make eye contact with, like, you know, both of them at some point, but it was like, nothing. And then I ordered.

[Heath]

What?

[Zach]

What?

[Zayn]

Still? But it was like, nothing.

[Heath]

It was like, nothing. But. No, but I mean, like, it wasn't like.

[Zach]

Like, there was. It was just kind of like, you know, just eye contact, whatever.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And it'll connect later because. Anyway, but so I. I made. I got my burger. You know, I'm chilling. I'm eating my burger. It is good burger. And I'm, like, just trying not to think about it. Whatever. And my manager and me, we're sitting down and his girlfriend comes, and he's like, you should tell her about, like, what happened. Because I had already told him a little bit. And I knew that there was nothing she could say day to make me feel better, because it was a situation where I was trying to, like, in my Head. I was like, did she meet someone better than me? Like, did she choose someone else over me? Did she meet? And I'm like looking at her following the next day, like, yeah. And I think I saw it go up a little bit and I was like. But I think it only gone about like one or two.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So I'm thinking your request maybe. Whatever. What'd you say?

[Zayn]

I said, that's all it takes.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's all it takes also.

[Heath]

Is this the time time wise? Is this the next day?

[Zach]

Yeah, this is the next very next day.

[Julie]

Okay.

[Zach]

Very next day. Day. And what was funny was the night that I was supposed to hang out with her that I hadn't eaten anything. I started, I meant to say this earlier. I started laughing because I, I, I, the only thing I had bought was like from my last meal at Erewhon, I bought like some like pumpkin bread. Like a slice, like a loaf.

[Heath]

Oh, not a lobo.

[Julie]

Yes.

[Zach]

You know, and I was like waiting to eat that.

[Heath]

And then like, and then I like, and then like when I knew she.

[Zach]

Wasn'T gonna like call me, I like.

[Heath]

Started eating this pumpkin bread and it wasn't even that good. And I was like laughing. I was like, like, what the. Like, I'm like, I've been waiting this whole time. And I know that threw you over the edge. I know that you off the dry ass pump.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Julie]

Oh my.

[Heath]

That would have got me turning red. That's so funny.

[Zach]

But I was laughing. I was, it was the first time I laughed about it. And I was just like.

[Heath]

But anyway.

[Zach]

But so I hadn't like eating anything. So I eat my burger, you know, having a good time. And then, or not I'm not having a good time, but I'm like enjoying the burger at least. And then manager's girlfriend comes over. He's like, tell her, you know, because she's a girl, you know, it's first a girl I talked to about it. But I knew that there was nothing she could say. And I'm rationalizing my mind. I'm like, I'm thinking like, you know, what else could it have been other than she got like maybe too close and got scared, like, you know, maybe abandonment issues and like, right. You know, like I knew she kind of like struggled with something like that. And so I was just thinking, what else could it be if she's talking to all that like stuff and then like nothing, you know. So I was like, it must just be that she got like, like scared or something. I don't know, like she got close and then was like, oh, I don't want to get broken or something. So like she left. But I, that's all I could rationalize. But so I'm telling the story and in telling the story, man, I couldn't even get to the beach. I, I just start crying, bro. Like, because I'm. The first time.

[Zayn]

Yeah, you're reliving.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You know, and I'm just, I start crying, you know, and it's like tough, you know, I'm like having a tough time just telling this. And of course, you know, she's listening to just being like, like she's like, like even, you know, just like me. Like, it's like not. You don't know what to say because it's so insane. And like I'm like in it and like, you know, it's embarrassed. Like I'm in Soho Mountain, like the richest people.

[Heath]

I'm just like going, this break. I'm like crying like people are like.

[Zach]

Like I get kicked out now, but, but I did think that I'm like.

[Heath]

Are they gonna like these rich people? Like, why the is he crying? Yeah, is he good?

[Zayn]

Or he's causing a scene.

[Heath]

Yeah, he's causing a scene.

[Zach]

There was a like girl there that was so hot and I was like hoping that she'd like come over be like, oh, are you okay? But she didn't.

[Heath]

But, but anyway, but so what the.

[Zayn]

Up with that guy?

[Heath]

Wait, what? You, she just like walks by like. Yeah, but it was funny cuz I.

[Zach]

Ordered the dessert menu right before I started crying because I wanted like a cookie or something, like give me a sweet treat something, you know. And it was funny cuz like I ordered the dessert menu and in between when I got it or when I ordered or asked for the menu, and when I came, I already started crying in the middle of that. So then the waiter came like with the menu as I'm like bawling like, and he's just like, oh, damn man, my bad.

[Heath]

Like, he's like, fat ass couldn't. Dessert menu, you know. And so I start laughing about that.

[Zach]

In my head as I'm telling the story. And then I start laughing again because I'm like, you know, like, I'm laughing like, what? And I'm like, I, I, if I went with my original plan of like going to the beach, I would have been like fully bawling, like, just like letting it out. And then Jaden Smith just walks out of nowhere as I'm like mid cries like, bro, you good? You know but anyway, so I, like, let it all out and I, you know, I'm just, like, dealing with it, and I'm kind of like, you know, you're at the end of the cry, you know, and you're feeling not great, but, you know, you let it out at least, you know, so you're feeling something. And I was like, I just need to be alone. So I To just want. Went to. Towards, like, the railing to, like, look out at the beach and. Yeah.

[Heath]

You love the dramatics. Love the dramatic. I could just. I see from their point of view of watching you watching the room, like, you didn't need to do that.

[Zayn]

Could have easily cried right where you were, just.

[Heath]

No, but just to be alone.

[Zayn]

So I walked out onto the rocks with, like, the.

[Heath]

The jeans, like, rolled up with no socks on.

[Zayn]

But slow dragging your feet.

[Heath]

So, dude, I'm.

[Zach]

I'm looking over the railing and I'm like, what is my life? It's just like. Actually, the first thing I say is, I say, I trust you, God. Like, I say to the, like, sky, like, I just say out. Like, I just say all that. I'm like, I trust you, God. Like, I'm, like, holding back tears again. And I'm like. But I know that, like, I. I could understand to some extent, even though there was still a question of what did happen, happen. I said to myself, I was like, I knew what it was. And if a girl's gonna do that to me, I don't want her in my life anyway.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But it still sucks.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And I'm still, like, grieving that, you know, that she wasn't who I thought she was.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

This whole thing happened. But so I'm looking at the beat, I say, I trust you, God. And I feel like I hear in my head, like, trust, Trust in me. Trust in me. And I'm, like, holding back tears. And I just hear like, I know, like, come from comforting. You know what I mean? And then I open my phone. It's four. Four, four. It's like one of the godly angel numbers supposedly.

[Julie]

Okay.

[Zach]

And it's like.

[Heath]

Like, what the?

[Zach]

Like, it's a four. Four.

[Julie]

What the?

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zayn]

I was like, jesus, what the.

[Heath]

I know every time he's. He gets an Asian over, he's standing on his phone like this, waiting for it.

[Zayn]

4, 4, 3.

[Heath]

You're. I love you.

[Zayn]

He has. He has alarm set.

[Heath]

It's so made up. Like, you're just. Yeah, that's so funny. So good. Okay. 444. That's so funny.

[Zach]

So I see, 444. And I'm just like, me. And. And I'm just in that moment. And then what is actually crazy is, like, after this whole. That day, the end of the day, there's someone that I have that's really close to my life. Her name is Julie, and she's like, kind of like. She calls herself my momager. Like, she'll, like, help me with stuff related to work, but also, like, little a life. Yeah. And she's very spiritual. And, you know, she's kind of someone who, you know, she's been around a while, like in LA specifically, and, like, understands a certain thing where I can always go to her. And she was always there, like, every step of the way with this story. And she would. She would tell me early on. Like, the texting was like, an immediate. Like. She's like, no, you know, okay, you don't want that. She'd be like. She'd also say, like, remind me, like, don't set expectations, you know? And I'm like, but she was excited for me. She wanted me. She liked seeing me happy. And she was just kind of letting me, you know, go through it, whatever. And she had called me and I hadn't told her yet what happened. And I told her and. And she was like, you know, I can't. And I, like, started crying again. And I was like. She was like, look, I can't say that I didn't see this coming, but you know what's crazy that you tell me that is she's like, I've been. She works in, like, medical sales, and she was working for, like, two days straight or something like that. Like, something insane, like, just, like, constant. Constant working. She's such a workaholic and, like, one of the most driven people I know. But anyway, she was, like, working, like, for two days straight. And. And she's, like, such a caring person. And, like, it's funny because she kind of, like, knows everything.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I don't know if you know anyone like that, but, like, they say where you're just, like, up.

[Heath]

But, you know, they're kind of.

[Zayn]

Right.

[Zach]

Yeah. And she had said that she also talks about having, like. She would also say, like, I don't know what it's called, but not like a psychic, but, like, she can, like, tell when shit's like, like, intuitive, like, to an extent that's like, wild. And even she doesn't really believe it. And when she'll tell me, I'm like, yeah, the off. You know, like, yeah, sure, you know, because she's Always like, but she does know. It seems like she knows everything anyway, so she told me. She's like, it's crazy that you say that. You know, I can't say that I didn't see this coming, but I've been working for two days straight and I was actually gonna call you to see how the. The date went, but I. I just felt I couldn't. I was like, so tired. And first chance I got, I was like, I took a nap and out of nowhere I woke up out of my nap, and I was like, you need to tell Zach that he's going to be okay. Okay. And I was like, that's weird. Yeah. And she was like, I need to tell him he's gonna be okay. And she always does. So, like, I think she just was like, she was so tight. She woke up out of a nap that.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Should have been a. Like, full on sleep. Yeah, like, whatever. After two days of just working. But she's like, I won't, you know, whatever. And. But she kept hearing in her head just like. And she like woke right out of her sleep just like telling her, like, fully, like, just telling me, like, tell Zach he's gonna be okay. And I just kind of. She's like, I kind of wrote it off and I fell back asleep. But I woke up and I was like, I need to call Zach. I need to ask how works it went. And she's like, but then I had to get immediately on these two work calls. I got on the work calls and this is the time I'm calling you. And I was like, what time did you, like, get that, like, messages? She's like, probably around like four. And that was when I was crying, like, fully.

[Zayn]

Weird.

[Zach]

Fully when I was crying, like 444. Like, it's a long story. And 444 is when I walked away to like, be alone. And I saw the four. Four. And then. Yeah, so that was weird. You know, I feel like I just spoke to God and now I'm later in the day I'm having. And Julie tell me that. Yeah. Close friend of mine. Like, I woke up out of my sleep telling me at that time to tell Zach he's gonna be okay. And anyways, so after I was like being dramatic, looking out at the beach, I felt like I just talked to God. I did talk to God. And I was like, you know what? I was kind of like coming to. I was like, let's just. Let's go to such a. Immature.

[Zayn]

No, no, don't worry.

[Heath]

Well, no, he's about to say where he went. I was laughing because I said, coming to.

[Zach]

It's so stupid.

[Heath]

I'm so dumb. So I was like, that's so stupid. Anyway, but.

[Zach]

So after that moment, I was like. We went to watch the sunset at the beach, and I was kind of like, you know, chilling now, you know, not fully, but I was like, better. And we run into Jaden's, like, walking towards us, you know, and he was with Moises Arus. And so. So we walked in. Revin, my manager, he had said something to the bar, to Moises. And so I was talking to my manager's girlfriend. Like, we were kind of talking about the situation. And then I see Rev and he's talking to Moises. And then I sort of walk over to them, and Moises says. He's like. He's like. He's like, yo, I saw your Ferrari out front, like, doing the bit.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I was like, that's cool. You know, welcoming. And then we're talking, great vibe. And then Jaden Smith walks up and he's like, yo, what's up, dude? Like, nice to meet you, you know, I'm Jaden. Was. I'm Zach, you know, Nice to meet you. And he said something to, like, my brother or not my brother, my manager, he was like, he's, oh, nice to meet you, man. You work out to, like, you know. And I was like, yeah, a little.

[Heath]

Bit, you know, nothing crazy.

[Zach]

And he's like, you know, laughing. And I was like, I feel like we look like twins. Low key.

[Heath]

He's like, got his shirt off, fully ripped.

[Zach]

I'm like. He's like, yeah, no, dude, I was thinking the same. I was like, is that my twin brother? And just great vibe, you know, just. And then I'm watching the sunset with. With, like, Jane Smith and, you know, the dude from Anna Montana. It's just such a weird reality. Like, curb your enthusiasm. And then it's like, life doesn't feel real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we all, like, walk back together, you know, and Jaden hugs me. He's like, all right, stay swaggy, brother. You know, whatever. And it was like, cool. And then I run into another friend of mine who was in the band opening for Cage. He was with his parents, and he's like, you know, one of my favorite people now. And, like, we were talking and it was just good vibe, very random. And my manager came up to me after I was talking to my friend. He was like, yo, Jaden came up to me, he said he wants to do A video with you. I was like, that's great. All this weird. Like, I even got a text from. I did a video with Somber.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

I saw that it had been, like, a month since I had. From when I filmed it to when I posted it, because his team hadn't, like. I mean, he's busy as. Yeah. Like, they hadn't reached back. Giving approval. And so I finally texted. I was like, bro, like, is this. Can I post this? And he was like, yeah, yeah, that day. He was like, yeah, it's funny. So post it. It's viral as all this good shit's happening, you know? Cool. And now Jaden, you know, wants to do a video. Is, like, really cool vibes. And then we drive back home. I'm, like, blasting, like, Muse randomly.

[Heath]

Like, just fully, like. Yeah, singing. I've been there. Yeah. I'm fully, like. I'm, like, singing Starlight. Like. Like, that's good. It's.

[Zach]

And I'm. But I'm like, you know, when you sing music.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Like, I'm, like, loving everything.

[Zayn]

You got to get it out.

[Heath]

I gotta.

[Zach]

And I'm happy. Like, I'm like, so happy. Vibes going great. Foo Fighters. I'm. I'm loving it. Next day, I. We have a meeting. We go to this meeting, and we're coming back. I haven't actually. I haven't told him this. I guess I won't say it on the pod, but. Because it's bad. I wish I could. Well, no, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically, I'll tell you after. Okay. But. So I want you so bad. I just can't, you know? So next day comes around, we have a meeting, and I actually haven't told my manager this. He was in the car with me, but I got a. I, like, went to check her Instagram one more time, and I saw the following. Oh, by the way, I text her that morning, like, something.

[Zayn]

Okay.

[Zach]

I think. I think even the day that I was, like, crying, I, like, text her just, like, what happened? Yeah, just something.

[Zayn]

Still trying to get some sort of.

[Zach]

Still trying to get something right. But. So I texted her the third day or the second day after she ghosted me. I text her this. I said. I said, I hope that one day you can tell me what happened. Happened. It really hurt me, but I forgive you. I really do care about you, and I hope you can talk to me and tell me what happened, because I'd really appreciate that. But I hope the shoot went well, though, and I am proud of you. Thank you. Just trying to be like, you know, a bigger man, just trying to see whatever. Not even bigger man, just, you know.

[Heath]

Respectful night in the days in my.

[Zach]

Mind, like someone you don't know what.

[Zayn]

Somebody'S going through something.

[Zach]

You never know.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And so I text her that and then we go to this meeting, coming back and I go to like check her following again. And like it went up by like 6 now, you know, so I knew she was like on her phone, you know, and she. I never got a dm, Nothing. And I see a new mutual follower. Like someone who's like following her that I follow.

[Julie]

Oh.

[Zach]

And so he's following her and she's following him. They weren't following each other before and Jaden Smith.

[Heath]

Shut up. Yeah, no, no, no.

[Zach]

But it was someone who's very famous.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

Famous and someone who I really love.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

Really love. Like I like one of my favorite people.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

And so I see this person following her and that hit like a truck. Cuz I'm going every, like it's like thousand yard stare.

[Heath]

Like I feel like, does this person does this. Does she know that you love him?

[Zach]

Oh, I think so.

[Julie]

Okay.

[Zach]

Anyway, so they're following each other and this person has had a girlfriend for like a while. So I'm going, that's crazy.

[Heath]

But no, no, he's a girl.

[Zach]

Yeah. So I look up her instagram, I look him up and her following, they're not, they're not following each other anymore. They've been dating for years. And I'm like, what are the odds?

[Julie]

Wow.

[Zach]

Favorite people is now following the girl that just ghosted me two days ago.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And she's following him.

[Zayn]

But you felt kind of cool though, right? Yeah.

[Zach]

Wait, why?

[Zayn]

Because it was like, you know, that.

[Heath]

Was like get my sloppy seconds. Yeah, Yeah, I wasn't feeling that.

[Zayn]

No, that'll come with time.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, no, I actually, I do now.

[Zayn]

Okay, good.

[Zach]

Yeah, but not like sloppy saga. That's a little.

[Heath]

But like I, I do think like.

[Zach]

I'm like, I can't even say.

[Zayn]

Yeah, you're on, you're on the same playing field.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, but so if anything, I thought like the void of what I sort of brought, like she was like, who can get, who can I get this on par with him? Yeah. Because she, you know, had to, you know, she was obviously too scared to love me.

[Heath]

But anyway.

[Zach]

Yeah, but no, but I actually don't know that necessarily. But anyways, because what she did end up telling me like two weeks later, like what happened?

[Julie]

Okay.

[Zayn]

She cleared the air.

[Zach]

Yeah. That's one way to put it. But anyway, so I am fully, like, I'm in the car with my manager, and I'm like, He's like. I started. I started laughing because I'm like, what the. Like, what is my life? Like, why the co.

[Heath]

The. The.

[Zach]

And it's something I could.

[Julie]

Couldn't.

[Zach]

I was so embarrassed. Like, I couldn't tell any. I didn't want to tell anyone. It's embarrassing to see, like, the girl that I was just crying about. Like, I. I know now it's not. But, like, in the moment, because that's not a girl I want in my life, and I'm fully away from that, and I've accepted that. And I'm like, so, like, she could be Brad Pitt. I can give a. Because she's not who I. Yeah, I thought she was.

[Zayn]

I don't give a who she is. She could be Brad Pitt.

[Heath]

She could be Brad.

[Zach]

Pit.

[Zayn]

Sorry. Sorry, I misheard you then.

[Zach]

You're good. But.

[Heath]

So. But.

[Zach]

Yeah, but I was, like, in it. And I remember just laughing. My manager was like, laughing. He's like, what? And I'm like, I couldn't tell him. I was like, I'm not gonna tell you. Like, it's just, like, too. It's too. It was like. It was embarrassing to me, and so I just needed to walk. I was like, just let me out. I just need to get out and walk. And I was like, in Beverly Hills.

[Heath]

You have a roller coaster of emotions these past. Like, that past few days for a walk.

[Zach]

And I. I go. I don't know who I can. One of my closest friends I can sit down. Is Kid Laroi. And, like, someone who we've immediately always had, like, the most deep conversations, and I felt like I couldn't even call my, like, hometown friends that I'm close with, because that's just embarrassing, like, because they all love this person. I love this person. We all, like, talk. Every guy in the world loves this person. You know.

[Heath]

I just. I. There's, like. There's, I think three guys that just popped up on my head. I just wonder if it's one of them, but obviously I'm not gonna say it. Yeah. So.

[Zach]

So anyway, so. So I couldn't call my friends, and I'm just like. I called Leroy and he was like, hey, he texted me. He didn't answer. He's like, hey, I can't. I'm doing something. You good? Or whatever. I'm like, actually, you know, I'm not feeling too. He's like, Oh, I can. I can get away if you want. And I was admitted texting. I'm like, I don't think you're good, like, because I don't want to, you know, whatever. And he just called me immediately, and he was like, yo, what's up? And, like, I just. You know, I'm, like, kind of holding back tears again, and I'm just like, bro. Like. And then I'm telling him the story, and, you know, he, you know, was just there for me, telling me, and he's like, bro, you're. You know, you're better than this person. I was like.

[Heath]

I was like, yeah, for sure. Thank you.

[Zayn]

For sure. Thank you.

[Heath]

Yeah, thank you. Thank you. But. So he.

[Zach]

But we talked, and it was cool, and I just. We got off the phone, and I ended up walking over to the park near. In Beverly Hills and just, like, sitting by a palm tree, just, like, you.

[Heath]

Know, just, you know, just, like, try.

[Zach]

My best to just chill and, like, think about. I'm just like, what the dude? Like, what is my life? And then I. I was like, I needed. Like, I just needed a change of scenery, whatever. So I start walking again, and Beverly Hills Hotel's right there. So I was. I've never been to the Polo Lounge. I was like, let me just go there. And so I go there, and, like, I. You know, I get two sprites for, like, 20 bucks, which is sick, you know, so sick.

[Heath]

So dope. But so I'm sitting there, and I'm.

[Zach]

Like, alone, and then I just text a friend of mine who I just met who's like, a very, like. Like, smart dude who I feel like I could talk to about this. And we. I was like, dude, you just want to get dinner? And he was. He was like, near Malibu, like, So I was like, oh, I'll just go there again. We can meet there later. All right, cool. And I was, like, about to. I was, like, leaving, and I see a guy who, like, kind of stood out, and I, like, we made eye contact, and I was like. I felt like I should talk to him, but I just did. And then I get a call. My manager, he was picking me up, you know, to take me, and he's like, hey, I'm five minutes out. I was, all right, cool. And then I kind of turn around, I make eye contact with the same guy again, and I'm like, I know. It's just, like, random, you know, I'm in my head, you know, crazy just happened, and I start walking. The guy's like, yo. And I'm like, yo, what's up, man? He's like, you're the guy from Tick Tock. I was like, yeah, yeah, that's me. And it was just immediately like. It's just a vibe. Like, it wasn't like, really? Whatever. And he was like, how are you?

[Heath]

You man?

[Zach]

Like, really? And I was.

[Heath]

I was like, wow. I was like, you might look crazy. Am I just like, yeah, yeah. But so I'm like, bro, honestly.

[Zach]

And I was kind of like, so in disbelief at this point. I was like, being able to be, like, light hearted with it. And I wasn't crying. I was just telling him a little bit about the story. And he was like. He had said something like, bro, like, I'm actually here because I'm not staying at this hotel. I'm just. I come here and like. Like, I wasn't even gonna come today, but I just. I was in the dumps too. And we were talking about our situations and it was like, really nice and, like, just dope and like, telling him this person I barely know, and he's someone who. He's like, he's his only fragrance company. He was telling me. And he was just running through some, you know, roadblocks with that and just opening up to me, and we were opening up to each other, and it was great. He said that he used to be on tour, like, as a dancer for, like, Justin Bieber. He was in the super bowl with, like, Rihanna. He worked with, like, Kanye as, like, a dancer on Donda. Yeah. And I'm like, that's so sick. And I love Kanye. You know, not now.

[Zayn]

Careful.

[Heath]

Like, you know what?

[Zayn]

Careful.

[Heath]

I loved old Kanye's music, you know, whatever.

[Zach]

And.

[Zayn]

Right, right.

[Zach]

So we start bonding over that and we get in the car. Well, actually, I'm like, well, dude, I gotta go. I gotta go to dinner. Let me get your number. He's all right, cool. He's like. He's like, bro, this might sound crazy. Can I just go to dinner with you?

[Heath]

I was like, cool.

[Zach]

I was like, sure. Yeah. Yeah. So we go in the car. Revan's, like, tired as, and, like, we just start blasting.

[Zayn]

I love how you just meet people and just have dinner with them.

[Heath]

Yeah. It's like, really crazy. Crazy. I love it.

[Zach]

That's genuinely my favorite thing. Like, I do mean it when I say, like, I'm blessed.

[Heath]

I'm not saying you saying yes. It's crazy the fact that it's even happening.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Heath]

It's very rare that even.

[Zach]

Just open yourself up to it, man. Yeah, good. People find good people. But so I, we get in the car, we're just blasting kind of singing every lyric. Like same as me singing Muse. Like, I'm just. Yeah, same high of like not even giving a. Having the greatest day now. Like just with the dude that I just met and like immediately vibing like, I'm like, this could be my best friend. Like, we're just like vibing like having the greatest time time. And that's like an hour drive, like 40 minute drive to Malibu.

[Julie]

True.

[Zach]

So from there, so we're like driving there and Revan had to like go to his girlfriend's place, so he dropped us there. And then we got an Uber and then just went back and now we're blasting Kanye again and just having the greatest time. And we're singing every lyric and just like fully in. And we get to Malibu, See my friend, we sit down for dinner. It's near, like Malibu isn't too busy, like at a, like a route. They close at like 10.

[Julie]

10.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

So it's like it was like only us in the restaurant. And I'm kind of like back in that place letting myself like talk about it to my, my other friend. And we're talking about. He's giving me advice and no one else is in the restaurant. And so it's only us. We're just talking. And in walks in Lana Del Rey, right? He's like the queen of yeah, yeah. Heartbreak. Literally. Yeah, I'm thinking off, bro.

[Heath]

Like, that's amazing.

[Zach]

Like, what the crazy look like, her and her husband. And I was like, this is so weird. And then, you know, the night comes to an end. I'm like, you know, the moon's full. Full moon. I'm like looking at the moon. You know, the beach is beautiful. I'm like talking to a friend of mine that I haven't talked to in a while. Sadie Crowell, beautiful person. We were just talking. I was laughing about being dramatic like again by the beach, you know, whatever. And then they close. The place closed. We go to valet. And my friend, his ex girlfriend called him and they used to watch my videos. So they were like, you know, I was, I was introduced to her and we were talking a little bit bit and joking around. And then they were saying goodbye. And as they were saying goodbye, Lana walks out and she chimes in to like whatever my friend was saying on the phone. Wow. So now we're all talking and she's like, wait, that's your ex girlfriend? And he's like, yeah. And she's like, why. Why are you not. You guys are close. And they're like, yeah, why aren't you guys together? And they're talking about their thing, and I'm like, just. What the. I'm like, what is this? What is this life? You know? And then. Because in my head, I'm like, how great would it be if I end up telling Lana Del Rey about the situation? And then my friend kind of brings up my situation to Lana Del Rey, and I was, like, trying to avoid it, actually. I'm like, I'm not gonna.

[Heath]

I'm not. I'm not about to tell Lana Del.

[Zach]

Rey about my breakup.

[Zayn]

Like, she makes a song about it.

[Heath]

Yeah. Yeah. But I'm like.

[Zach]

I'm like, I'm not about to tell her this. And then I, like, kind of, like, was avoiding the question a little bit. Lana was like. She was like, no, like, what? Tell me. And I was just like, okay.

[Heath]

So basically, I started telling Lana Del.

[Zach]

Rey this story, okay, and about this. This, like, ghosting. And it's so great because, you know, it's. It's like. It's like, what is my, like, fully, like, my bit, like, manifest into this weird thing where, like, in the moment, that should be, like, the worst. Like, I'm meeting, like, all these people. It's like, all this shit's happening. I mean, talking a lot about my breakup. Like, how weird is that? And then she's, like, saying, like, yeah, that girl's like. Like, ew. Like, that's gross. Like. Like, I can't. Like, she's like, if my son.

[Julie]

She's not.

[Zach]

Not, by the way, she doesn't have a son. She was just saying, like, in the future, you know, she's like, if I had a kid, and that kid, like, had, like, a girl that goes. She's like, I'm punching.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Like, there's no shot. I'm, like, not fighting that other, like, that girl. And she's just such a cool person and so genuine and so down to earth. And my. I get to the point where I bring up the famous person, and my friend is like, it's funny. Like, it is funny. And because there's even more context, that makes it worse. But so my friend sort of. Bro, you got to tell her about that person. And so I bring up that person, and she was like, who the is that? Or, like, something like that. She's like, I don't know who that is. And, you know, obviously, the drop that my friend was looking for of, like, how funny it is, even though a great Friend.

[Heath]

No, he's like, bro, tell her that shit's funny. Yeah, but. No, but it is funny.

[Zach]

But she didn't know who that was. And she was like, well, look, you're better than. You're better than him. You're gonna be more famous than him.

[Heath]

And I'm like, like, thank you. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right. But also, in my head, like, she said it.

[Zach]

She said, like, you're. You're definitely, like, not. She didn't say better, but she said something else that kind of, you know, whatever. She said, you're blah, blah, more than him. And I was like. I was like. Again, like.

[Heath]

I was like, yeah, yeah, for sure. No, totally.

[Zach]

Because I love the person too. Like, it's not that they're, you know, whatever, but it was a cool experience having LA door. She's like, you're gonna be more famous than them.

[Heath]

Do you like.

[Zayn]

Do you still like this person, though?

[Zach]

Yeah, love him.

[Zayn]

Okay.

[Zach]

Because I actually ended up talking to them.

[Heath]

Oh, my God. Keith, can you move your flight?

[Zayn]

I know, I know.

[Heath]

It's just too good.

[Zayn]

It's. It's the last flight going out today.

[Heath]

Let me say, Let me say.

[Zach]

Let me finish. So anyway, so I talked to her, and at the end of the day, she goes, all right, I want an update. So she hands me her phone and she goes, put your Instagram in. So I put my Instagram. She follows me. So you can check this. You know it's real.

[Heath]

She follows me. Like, this is a real stream story.

[Zach]

And it was just three. And then me and my friend are driving back and, like, I'm blasting.

[Heath]

We got that. Fully loving it. Like, so good. Thinking of young and beautiful. Like. Like tears. Just like. It's a really sad day, but it just sounds like the perfect day. It was a day. It was an amazing day.

[Zach]

It was an amazing day. Like, it should have for a day that what happened, happened. It was like, amazing.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And then so the next day comes around and I go, it. I'm a text him. I'mma text this person.

[Heath]

You're going to.

[Zach]

Wait, I'm going text the guy. The famous guy.

[Heath]

Wait, I. You had.

[Zach]

I didn't know you.

[Heath]

Oh, I didn't know you knew that.

[Zach]

I didn't know him. I DM'd him.

[Julie]

Oh.

[Zach]

I go, I'mma DM him.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

And so when I told the siloy.

[Heath]

When they go, no, bro, you did not say that. I can't believe you did that. Okay.

[Zayn]

And you're going based off of no proof other than a follow.

[Zach]

She's too. She's not famous like that. There's no way. Like, they didn't.

[Heath]

It just didn't make sense.

[Zach]

It just didn't make sense. Like. And he's had a girlfriend, now they're broken up. Like, okay, Just makes. Made sense.

[Julie]

All right.

[Zach]

So I said, it is.

[Heath]

It's a little bold, but I said in my mind, I.

[Zach]

You felt more sense to me. I said, ah, yeah, I probably shouldn't open it like this, But I said.

[Heath]

I said, I'll just.

[Zach]

I'm gonna give a fake name for her. Her name's Anna.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

Right. So I said. I said, you don't want Anna, bro. Trust me.

[Heath]

Yeah, but I didn't. In my head, I More. The tone was more like. I know. No, the tone of my voice was more like.

[Zayn]

You sent him a voice?

[Heath]

You sent a voice?

[Zach]

I texted in the tone of my voice.

[Zayn]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zach]

I felt like the way I wrote it was like, you don't want. You don't want. Yeah, bro. Trust me. And I said, I know I'll probably sound crazy, but just trust me, you know? He texted me back five minutes later.

[Zayn]

Damn.

[Zach]

Never talked to him in my life. He goes, she just started messaging me yesterday. What's up with that? He said, how'd you know? Right? And I'm, like, sending a voice message, like, trying to explain everything. And in like, five minutes, as I'm, like, trying to figure out how he texts me again, he goes, respond, bro. It's freaking me out.

[Julie]

My.

[Heath]

You should see my leg right now. Underneath, around. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Zach]

So I go.

[Heath]

I just.

[Zach]

I say. I just delete the voice message. I go, I know this is probably weird, but are you down to call? Call? And he goes, yeah. And he sends me his number.

[Heath]

It's.

[Zach]

And so.

[Zayn]

What the.

[Zach]

And this person's really famous.

[Heath]

God damn it.

[Zach]

I wish.

[Heath]

I wish they. I wish.

[Zach]

You can't.

[Heath]

Yeah, because they are the coolest person.

[Zach]

Doing this, by the way. So I call. Because they have no clue. Yeah. So I call them. Testament to how dope they are.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I go, yo. And I just, like in their voice, the person I love, like, yo, what's up, dude?

[Julie]

Okay?

[Heath]

And I'm like, dude, what's up? You know?

[Zach]

And I'm, like, talking to him, like, explaining in a shorter version of like, yeah, everything happened. And I, like, tell him. And he starts telling me. He's like, yeah, man. I mean, you know, she just started messaging me like the other Day and we've never met. Like, she just messaged me and like, I've been sad. Like I'm going through a breakup. And like, I know what it's like, bro. It sucks. And I've just been feeling sad. And she was saying nice and it felt good.

[Heath]

I'm like, I get it. I get it fully. Like, I'm fully with you.

[Zach]

And I. It was funny. Like, I bring up the Lana Del Rey thing and he was like. He was like, like, you should Lana Del Rey.

[Heath]

It's like a joke, you know? And I was like. I was like, no, no, no, no, but.

[Zach]

And we're just like. It was just such a cool moment. And he was like, look, bro, I get it. You know? Cuz I kept saying, like, I know this is crazy. I know this sounds weird. And he was just like, no, dude, like, I get it fully. And like, by the way, I think you're funny as, like, I've seen your vids. Like, you know, I love seeing you like, roast celebrity. It's hilarious. And he's like, and now you got my number. But yeah, I'll just leave her on, right? Red, I want to text her again. And I. I get out of that.

[Heath]

Call, I'm like, bro, oh my God. Feeling that you probably. I was so hyped. I've never been more hype in my life. I was like. I was doing the. Like, I was just like. Like, yeah, yeah, like random. Just feeling hype, bro. I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. Because I'm also like, you. Like, this dude is like, I'm fully loving it, right?

[Zach]

And the fact that he's like, now, it's a connection reaction. He's like, bro, yeah, you're good. He's like, I get it. And she's like, she just messaged me and like, I've been barely responding and like, I'll just not respond to her.

[Heath]

You should do this with every person she follows.

[Zach]

Yeah, you don't want where she can never find. True.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

But so then that happened and it was like the coolest thing ever, you know? Now, damn, I'm coming up out.

[Heath]

I'm coming up like, out of this. Like, the fact this is happening all in one day is like. Well, no, I mean, this was though.

[Zach]

This was everything.

[Zayn]

Everything.

[Heath]

The DM crying, James. One day, next day, Beverly Hills Hotel.

[Zach]

Next day, I see them follow.

[Heath]

Or that was.

[Zach]

I saw him following her the day I met Lana Del Rey.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zach]

And then I'm talking to her about it, and then she follows me and then the next day I'm like, I go, I text him. And then you write a book.

[Heath]

My week in la. Yeah, Yeah, A whole book in the span of a week.

[Zach]

And we call it funny. I was like, I know, it probably sounds like a lie too, you know, because like, like, like all the happened, he's like, bro. Yeah, I get it. It's, it's funny, you know?

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And yeah, he's like, bro, you're funny as. And we just had like this cool moment and he was like, you know, probably Ron Red. And it was amazing. It was just like the coolest, coolest thing. But then like a week later, I text her, like again, I DM her and I just, I, I, he's, I know I should have forgotten about her by now, but I, I was still like, in my head, I like, was like, I want to know what happened, man.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And so I DM her and I say, and this is where it gets weird, you know? And I know you got to go, I feel bad.

[Zayn]

But we, no, I feel bad. I got to leave.

[Zach]

Six minutes. I just text, I said, you can't even say anything to me, you know? And she responds and she goes, I broke that phone. I bro, I broke my phone that day on set and went, likely story.

[Heath]

Yeah, likely story, yeah.

[Zach]

She goes, I broke my phone that day on set. Set. And when we wrapped production for the day, it was late as hell and I couldn't go to Apple and buy another one. I was gonna message you on my my girl's ig, but I was like, he's not gonna see that cuz she has 400 followers. But I'm like, try, like give me something.

[Heath]

Yeah, terrible excuse. Yeah.

[Zach]

And, and by the time I got a new phone, your messages loaded. And she got pissed off at what I said about I forgive you. She, she said, she read that and in my mind I was like, it was like genuinely for her. Like, I was like being like, I'm proud of you. Like, and by the way, like, like, whatever you're going through, like, I, I, I forgive you. Like, you know, whatever. And she just said, she's like, your message is loaded. And I got pissed off at what you said and I wasn't trying to explain myself. And then you unfollowed me the day I saw her following the famous dude.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Which is when I unfollowed her.

[Heath]

I go, that's, that's still yeah.

[Zach]

And, and she was like, okay, bet. So she unfollowed me. And I go, how did you expect Me to feel like, how did you. Like, I didn't even react that crazy. I just said like, hey, like, by the way, like, I forgive you. Like, yeah. In my mind she goes to me a day after promising me the world and she goes, I mean, first of all, it showed me you weren't nearly as mature as I thought.

[Heath]

Oh.

[Zach]

And I was like, I was like.

[Heath]

Was this the text that pissed you off?

[Zach]

And I was like sending the text of being like, hey, you're gonna kill it. Hey, you still have to shoot. Is everything okay? And then me saying like, I don't get it. Like that's it. And then she was like. And then this is where it kind of gets like, whatever. But she goes, you also the knowledge. I came off a six hour red eye fly and then I went to set two hours after I landed, which didn't click for me because she said that she landed at 5. 5 and. Or she had said she had to get in at 10. Yeah, I don't know if the flight was delayed or not or if that's like a slip up, you know what I mean? But she was like, but then I had to, you know, but also like I was kind of hearing her a little bit. Like, of course you'd be tired. But like still tell me like even if a phone like figure out, she.

[Heath]

Also, she knew where you guys were meeting up. So she could have showed up too.

[Zach]

Well, no, she didn't. She didn't.

[Heath]

Oh, she didn't know we were gonna.

[Zach]

She was gonna text me.

[Heath]

Okay, got it.

[Zach]

And. But my thing was find a laptop. Like you don't know your I IG password. Like, and I saw you following people the next day, the day before I said that I forgive you.

[Zayn]

Period.

[Julie]

Right?

[Heath]

Period, Period.

[Zach]

And. And she goes, she's like, I had a 17 hour work day. Which was like insane to me. Cuz like I've never even really heard of that from the acting. Maybe I'm tripping.

[Zayn]

You should report that production studio.

[Zach]

And she goes, and then to get my text and you're like, I forgive you. Or whatever you said. I was like, who the does he think he is? Is. He has no idea what's going on in my life. And you made it super personal about yourself when I was the one who lost my. And was exhausted from working. And I'm just thinking, she said it felt very entitled. And I'm thinking I'm. I'm usually always the guy trying to like see the other side. But like in my head I was like, nah, this is like, blame shifting. There's no.

[Heath]

You also know what with the other guy, that she was talking to him too. Yeah. At the same time.

[Zayn]

Right?

[Zach]

Yeah. So I go, we were supposed to hang out Monday. I sent that text Wednesday. Like, nothing. Like, you didn't send anything. I knew she was traveling the next day anyway, but I'm trying to, like, like, see it and I'm thinking, did I up? Like, am I to blame? Like, did I, like, overreact, you know? But she goes. And then she said, I didn't get what this meant. She goes, yeah, I only have my iPad until Thursday. And I was like, did she break her phone? Did she break her iPad? Like, what? Yeah, if you had your iPad, just DM. What are you talking about? Like, I'm confused. And so I go, you really can't see from my perspective, like, how that would have made anyone feel like, like, to at least, like, see. Oh, he said, I forgive you. Like, see it at least somehow from my perspective, not read it from, like, him. And she goes, honestly, I'm just really tired of men not giving women any grace or benefit of the doubt. And you weren't, like, worried for my well being? You were concerned about the emotional aspect of yours.

[Heath]

I don't know. I can't wait for you. What are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? That's a. I mean, the knowing that what she was doing.

[Zach]

Yeah, yeah, I said. I just said, I know you probably won't want to do this, but is there any way we could talk about this? Like, just call and talk? And she goes, and what would be the purpose? I'm thinking same.

[Heath]

Oh, bro. What would be the purpose?

[Zach]

Like, we've been talking for a month. Yeah, like, you can't even tech.

[Heath]

Like, what the. It's insane. What the turn in la.

[Julie]

What the.

[Heath]

She's like, what would be.

[Zach]

What would be the purpose? And I was like, after all the time we talked, I'd hate for it to end without at least hearing each other and talking about. Yeah, you know, even if it's the last phone call, it's something I'd appreciate. And she goes, I've been incredibly busy the last few weeks and just kind of going through it and I don't have the emotional energy to, like, argue or have any negative vibes in my life. Life at all.

[Zayn]

All right?

[Zach]

And I'm like, I don't want to argue. We've never even been in an argument. Like, I just want to talk.

[Julie]

Yeah.

[Zach]

And if it turns into anything other than that, you can just hang up. On me. And she goes, I just don't feel like explaining myself more than I already have to cater to your emotions. When I'm going through my own stuff right now, it's just a lot. And I'm like, can't we just talk? And she goes, zach, about what? And I'm just thinking, what the.

[Heath]

Like, are you kidding me? Like, is this really happening? Yeah.

[Zach]

And I go, we were talking for a month, and now you're saying we'll just never talk talk again. I can't try and explain. And just, like, we won't, like, not argue. And then she goes, the day before, I, like, posted a story and, like, a girl, like, it was funny. Like, I got dinner with. This is two weeks, by the way, since, like, whatever. I went to, like, dinner with my friends at, again, Malibu. And, like, next door is Nobu. And we. They don't allow pictures in Malibu, so they're like, oh, let's just jokingly take a picture in front of the Nobu sign. And there was, like, this bachelorette party, and the bride recognized me.

[Zayn]

Me.

[Zach]

And so I took a picture with all the bachelorette girls and, like, the. You know, at Nobu, and it was just, like, funny. And anyway, so I posted that, and some girl swiped up my story and was like. She said something like, oh, I'm trying to be one of the 30 girls or something. And I was like. I was like, where are you taking me as a joke? And she was like, wherever. I can't have 30 other girls, and it's just me. And I was like. I was like, it's probably not gonna work out or something. I said, yeah, you know, whatever. I posted that story.

[Julie]

Story.

[Zach]

And so after I said, I can't try and explain, like, you know, we can't even talk. And she was like, zach, I'm not stupid. I know you're talking to other girls. Like, I saw your story.

[Heath]

You, like, it's been two weeks. Like, I can't even jokingly respond.

[Zach]

Like, what are you talking about? Like, use your brain. Yeah. And then. And then. And then I go, it's been two weeks since I thought you ghosted me. And you DM'd so.

[Zayn]

And so.

[Zach]

So and so. Two days after we were supposed to hang out, and you're now talking to me about a nice. And she goes, there is multiple reasons why that is so toxic of you to say. And I'm out. And I go, oh, you know.

[Heath]

I know it, bro. I know it, bro. Damn.

[Zach]

And then two days later, she liked my post.

[Heath]

Two Days later. Because you know why? Because she found that hot. He is obsessed with. Yeah.

[Zayn]

What a roller coaster.

[Heath]

Yeah, that's it.

[Julie]

That.

[Heath]

What an incredible story. The fact that it all happened in one week off camera. Don't say it.

[Zayn]

That's crazy.

[Zach]

Yeah, that was. That was wild. And it's so crazy to me that she's like talking about some like, that's so toxic. Because I know. I got it. She didn't know I knew that.

[Heath]

Yeah, she didn't know I knew that. And now she knew she's caught. Fully caught. Like she's going crazy because like in her head's like, there's no way he went through my flaw.

[Julie]

Because like how.

[Heath]

Like there's just.

[Zach]

No.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Julie]

Figure that out.

[Zach]

And then I saw her typing for a bit.

[Heath]

Yeah. Then cuz I said. I said. I said that is the most.

[Zach]

Because she said there's multiple reasons why that's so toxic. Which is the most Blame shifty. Like gaslighting. So that's such gaslighting. It's insane. And then she was typing. Just never text me back. Damn. And then she liked my post like two days later. And then I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, I don't know if she's a narcissist. I don't know if like she genuinely like relies on this attention where it's like, you know, bread crumbing is. Yeah. It's like that. Like the Hollywood bab where we just learned that Remy.

[Zayn]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Yeah. Breadcrumb. Like liking my. To make me feel a certain way. Yeah.

[Heath]

Few things he said on the show connected us with Alicia. Remy, our other. Our other podcast. Alicia and Remy basically unfiltered. There's a few things in your story that's like, they would be freaking. Dude. Wow. 333. Bro. Bro. That's insane. That's that, bro. That's what I'm saying, bro. You know what I'm talking about, bro.

[Zayn]

Three.

[Heath]

Three, three. We're three people hug like. Yes. Come here. Oh, my God. Yes, sir.

[Zach]

Wow. Okay.

[Heath]

All right, we got. He has to go bad.

[Zach]

I gotta.

[Heath]

He has to go. But God, Zach, thank you so much.

[Zach]

You're.

[Heath]

You're incredible.

[Zayn]

After this and we'll. We'll finish chatting because there's a lot more that I want to say to you, but it was a pleasure being able to have you.

[Heath]

Thank you so much.

[Zayn]

I know you. You guys will finish this out, but I love you. Thank you so much.

[Heath]

Thank you.

[Zayn]

And yeah, I'll text you as soon as we get done.

[Zach]

Love you, dude.

[Zayn]

All right, I'm so sorry.

[Heath]

No, let's.

[Julie]

Let's just.

[Heath]

Let's just. Let's just close it out. Oh, Zach, thank you so much. We love you. Heath has to go. You can check out these episodes every Monday, audio form on all podcast platforms, and every Tuesday, video form on YouTube.com zayn. And Heath, you can check out all the socials, obviously. He's incredible, amazing, hilarious.

[Zach]

Thank you.

[Heath]

And music coming out.

[Zayn]

Hell, yeah.

[Zach]

The song I wrote about, like, I'm writing about her is, like, the best song I've written.

[Heath]

Oh, my God.

[Zach]

Another thing of, like, meant to be.

[Heath]

I. Dude, I can't wait to hear.

[Zach]

I can't wait to show you, bro.

[Zayn]

Says timing amazing.

[Zach]

3:33.

[Heath]

But that's crazy.

[Zayn]

No, weird.

[Heath]

But anyway, you gotta go. All right.

[Zayn]

I love you guys. And I love you guys. I'll see you guys soon. Peace.

[Zach]

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