309: Annie Lederman Gets Us Canceled

Summary

Zane and Heath: Unfiltered – Episode 309

Title: Annie Lederman Gets Us Canceled
Date: November 24, 2025
Special Guest: Annie Lederman

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Episode Overview

In this lively and wide-ranging episode, Zane and Heath welcome comedian Annie Lederman for a typically unfiltered, hilarious, and sometimes surprisingly deep conversation. The crew discusses everything from wild party stories and reality TV betrayals to personal growth, stand-up comedy, meditation, and the bizarre world of marathon running. True to form, Annie brings an edgy, candid energy, sharing jaw-dropping anecdotes, riffing on wellness and self-help, and explaining how she “pokes at the shadow.” The crew and Annie are at their best, exploring embarrassing DMs, reality show politics, meditation-induced “brain orgasms,” and plenty of stand-up comedy inside baseball.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Catch-up & Party Stories

(01:05–07:00)

• Matt brags about getting Wordle in one guess, prompting a debate over optimal starting words.
• Zane recounts a wild story about his roommate Danielle coming home drunk—leading to a “pinball” hallway scene as he helps her to bed.
  • “She is on the floor like a pretzel.” —Zane (03:55)
• The group recaps their recent viewing of “Squid Game: The Challenge” in search of a Vine friend, only to realize how reality TV edits some people out entirely.

2. Games, Competition & Disney Drinking Olympics

(07:00–14:10)

• Matt describes auditioning for “Pop Culture Jeopardy!” and reveals his teammates.
• The group swaps stories of epic party games, including Matt’s experience at a Disney-themed drinking games party.
• They argue about the popularity and athleticism required for new party games like “Beard Eye” (Snappa) vs. classics like beer pong.
• History of “Beard Eye”: originated in 1972 at University of Maine.

3. Comedy, Embarrassing DMs, & Social Mishaps

(22:01–29:00)

• Zane recounts seeing Annie perform years ago and DMing her a fan message—awkwardly rediscovered when booking her for the podcast.
• Annie and the crew share stories of embarrassing accidental DMs, including times friends trolled them with burner accounts.
  • "I wish I could remember the exact message, but...it was really strange." —Matt (26:34)
• Annie describes confronting a videographer who texted his wife behind her back, and how such moments instantly end friendships.

4. Early Internet Days & Survival Reality TV

(29:02–34:00)

• Annie talks about making a real-life lifelong friend via MySpace, and the evolution of discovering and sharing viral content.
• She discusses her fiancé’s work on the reality survival show “Outlast,” and contemplates learning survival skills on her own channel.
• The group debates game-show psychology, alliances, and the “integrity vs. $4.5 million” dilemma on competitive reality shows like “Squid Game: The Challenge” and “Survivor.”
  • “You’re not gonna make money off integrity.” —Annie (32:07)

5. The Reality TV Rabbit Hole

(34:00–41:00)

• Annie breaks down the madness of “Married at First Sight,” including cruel matchups (“her name was Noi, they married her to a guy named Moy—should be in prison for that”).
• Discussion of reality TV motives—do people want love or just Instagram followers?
• Hilarious breakdown of reality TV experts and naming conventions (“Dr. Pepper Schwartz”).

6. School Days & Troubled Teachers

(41:00–46:00)

• Annie reflects on her unique education: Quaker elementary school (“Friends School”) with silent meetings where anyone could speak, and later a juvenile delinquent high school with just 17 classmates.
• The crew reacts as she opens up about taking her art teacher to court for inappropriate behavior disguised as mentorship. She explores the dark reality that troubled schools can attract problematic adults.

7. Stand-up, Touring, and Writing

(69:25–75:55)

• Annie shares her touring schedule and what she finds rewarding about meeting fans across the country.
• The group probes her writing process—she calls it “getting hit by lightning,” rarely sitting and writing, instead developing material from kernels and onstage experimentation.
  • “Everything I resist is exactly what I’m supposed to be doing.” —Annie (72:05)
• She discusses the paradox of posting crowd work online: it's great for virality, but she wants fans to know she also writes strong material.

8. Spirituality, Meditation, and Psychedelics

(93:59–108:47)

• Annie identifies as a “spiritual girly,” discussing her experiences with meditation (including Transcendental Meditation and Joe Dispenza retreats), ayahuasca (seven times, usually over weekends with an LA-based shaman), and microdosing mushrooms.
• She and Matt discuss the role of psychedelics in building self-confidence and moving through life chapters.
• Annie explains complex Joe Dispenza breathwork—“brain orgasms” via energetic techniques (103:20).
  • “People were having these, like, brain orgasms, basically. It was so weird.” —Annie (102:52)
• The group gets practical about starting a morning routine, dopamine detox, and writing morning pages (ref: “The Artist’s Way”).

9. Self-Help, Goals, and Productivity

(110:03–114:54)

• Annie credits writing positive, present-tense goals (“I am…”) as a key to her career progress, citing the book “Goals” by Brian Tracy.
• They talk about balancing multiple self-help systems and coping with “analysis paralysis”—the overwhelm of having too many techniques and opinions thrown at you.
• “Anything that’s going wrong in your life is just…it’s your subconscious that’s planted that.” —Annie (106:27)

10. Comedy Culture, Corporate Gigs, and Reality of Showbiz

(78:43–82:51)

• Annie offers insight into the sometimes competitive, sometimes sisterly world of women comics.
• She shares tales of awkward corporate gigs, roasting old rich men at golf clubs, and the challenge of being asked to work “clean.”
• T-shirt merchandise tales: Annie’s collaboration with designer Meth Syndicate (“microwave” on shirts, shrimp as ‘666’).

11. Hobbies and Wrapping Up

(114:54–End)

• The discussion winds down with favorite slot machines, Matt’s joy at winning a TV on “Let’s Make a Deal,” and wild tangents about marathon running and wellness.
• Annie shouts out her tour dates and plugs her podcast, AnnieWood.
• Final note of gratitude and encouragement to check out Annie’s live shows.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Zane, on Danielle’s drunken return:
  “She is on the floor like a pretzel.” (03:55)
• Matt, on embarrassing burner accounts:
  “I catch him just red-handed with the screenshot that he sends me with this whole correspondence and his YouTube page.” (26:55)
• Annie, on surviving high school:
  “If you put a kid towards juvenile delinquents, they shall become one.” (44:44)
• Annie, on meditation and self-improvement:
  “Everything I resist is exactly what I’m supposed to be doing. It is actually crazy. It’s like the exact thing I need to do.” (72:05)
• Zane, on writing goals:
  "I try not to write my goals cuz I just know I'll never accomplish them." (109:45)
• Annie (on The Artist's Way):
  "You’re supposed to every morning do morning pages...you just stream of consciousness write for three pages and you get all this gunk out." (108:57)
• Matt, on the trippy side of breathwork:
  “People were having these, like, brain orgasms, basically…you squeeze your taint—your perineum—he’s like, squeeze your perineum…” (102:51)
• Annie, on motivational speakers:
  “I definitely like, maybe not Tony Robbins is good… but you have to create your own. Pick and choose.” (115:23)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------|-------------------| | Wordle & Danielle's wild night | 01:05–05:45 | | Disney Drinking Games & Party Cheating | 09:00–14:10 | | Squid Game and Reality TV | 05:39–08:09, 34:00–34:49| | Annie’s Comedy Origins/DM Story | 22:01–23:05 | | Burner accounts & DM Embarrassments | 24:25–29:00 | | Quaker/Educational Upbringing | 41:00–46:43 | | Survival TV/Backstabbing Ethics | 29:46–34:49 | | Stand-up Comedy Process | 69:25–75:55 | | Psychedelics & Meditation | 93:59–108:47 | | Productivity, Self-Help & Goals | 110:03–115:23 | | Annie’s Tour Dates, Outtro | 122:11–End |

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode is a dynamic blend of party energy, raunchy humor, earnest soul-searching, and classic oversharing. Annie’s irreverent, self-aware comedy meshes perfectly with Zane and Heath’s vibe, while Matt and Heath keep the conversation moving sharply between the absurd and the insightful. There’s lots of gentle (and not-so-gentle) ribbing, laughter at awkward memories, and an underlying message that most people are just trying to figure life out, one botched DM or half-finished goal at a time.

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Where to Find Annie Lederman

• Podcast: AnnieWood (new episodes Thursdays)
• Instagram: @AnnieLederman
• Live Shows: See AnnieLetterman.com for tour dates (includes Houston, IL, PA, Austin, Dallas, and more).

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Final Word:
If you like hilarious, unfiltered talk with a side of hard truths and weirdo wellness, this episode is a must.
“You just gotta poke the shadow.” — Annie Lederman

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Check out Zane & Heath: Unfiltered every Monday (audio) and Tuesday (video) for more wild conversations.

Transcript

[Annie Letterman]

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[Matt]

I got wordle in one today.

[Heath]

I saw you posted that.

[Matt]

So what a rush.

[Heath]

First time.

[Matt]

First time.

[Zane]

Oh, you've never. I've got. I've had that twice.

[Matt]

You've had it twice? Twice, yes, twice. Words. Do you remember the words?

[Zane]

I do not remember the words.

[Matt]

Now, are you a person who plays the same word every time?

[Zane]

I'll pick between like eight different words. So I'll go. It's. It's very. Because I like to use a lot of vowels.

[Matt]

Okay. Yes.

[Zane]

Tears.

[Matt]

Good.

[Zane]

Train.

[Matt]

Don't never use a plural because it never will be a plural or tier. Like it's four letters. That's four letters.

[Zane]

Of course.

[Matt]

But you could do tears. But you're not gonna get it because why? Because the wordal answer is never a plural word. Like it's never.

[Zane]

Is that in the rules? That it'll never be a plural word?

[Matt]

I used to do that. And a friend told me that she's like, you never want to play plural because it never will be.

[Zane]

So I'll do it. Well, in general, I do tears. Train. I'll do.

[Matt]

I used to do shouts a lot.

[Zane]

There's one that's.

[Matt]

But I did. Oh, today was arise. And that's what I've been playing for the past three months.

[Zane]

I used to do A, R, I.

[Matt]

S, E. Yes, because you get The A, you get the I, you get the E, get an R and an X. Yes. And it. Just because I was playing ado for a long time, but for some weird reason, because I broke my streak, I was off wordle. I had a feeling maybe that word had been already used as the main word. So I was like, I'm gonna switch it up.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Did arise. My gosh, that rush. It's like hitting the jackpot.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

On a slot machine.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

It's just green, green, green, green, green. Could not believe.

[Zane]

You gotta. You're like, today's gonna be a good day.

[Matt]

Yeah, it's gonna be a great day.

[Zane]

Great day. I. I also had an amazing day too, actually. No, amazing night. I decided. I decided to stay in, you know, because we were recording and my room, Danielle, my roommate, she. She's right behind us. He's walking behind Heath and I. And she's like, oh. Because she was going to her friend's, like, birthday or something. Be back early. Just like, Daniel would just be like, I'll be back early. I'm gonna be responsible. Leaves. I swear. It was probably what, two and a half hours?

[Heath]

Not even, because we were. We just like, chilled on the couch, watched some TV for a second, and.

[Zane]

Then we're watching the new squid games.

[Heath]

I was.

[Zane]

The game show.

[Matt]

Oh, the game show.

[Zane]

Yeah. We'll tell you more about it.

[Heath]

I went into the bedroom to go to bed around, like, maybe 11:45.

[Zane]

11:45. She left at like maybe 9:39.

[Heath]

45. Around there.

[Zane]

Yeah. So I'm climbing into bed, and I'm in my bed, like, I had my. Got my melatonin in. I'm ready to fall asleep, and I just hear boom, boom, boom on my front door. And it was a knock where, like, it's. It's pretty. It's like, oh, like the. The door this late at night. I walk closer and I'm like, who is it? And it's like I hear some dude. And I'm like, oh, that's weird. I come closer and I'm like, hello? He's like, I'm. I hear something. Something Danielle. And I was like, I'm sorry, what was that? And he goes, I have your friend Danielle.

[Matt]

She's drunk.

[Zane]

I was like, oh, my God. I opened the door, she is on the floor, like.

[Heath]

Like a pretzel.

[Zane]

Like a pretzel.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh.

[Zane]

And I'm like, oh, my God. I, I. And he's like, yeah. I just, like, brought it here. I was like, in my head, I.

[Matt]

Was like, thank God he Wasn't the Uber driver. Oh, dear.

[Zane]

Yeah. And so, so I was like, oh, my God, thank you so much. I'm sorry. And I was, like, worried because, like, oh, my God, did she get, like, spiked or something? Because two hours she went to Venice too. So my head is like, what happened in the event?

[Matt]

Like, very quick.

[Zane]

I need to talk to her about it.

[Matt]

So she tipping that Uber driver good.

[Zane]

What?

[Matt]

She better be tipping that Uber driver.

[Zane]

I'm sure she did.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

And I had a carrier to her bed.

[Matt]

Oh, my gosh. Poor Danielle.

[Zane]

Danielle. But, you know, she, she deserved it. She had a heart. She had a rough week, but it was, it was just funny.

[Matt]

Oh, my gosh.

[Zane]

It's so funny when you have nights like that because when you wake up, obviously she didn't remember anything, like, in the stage issue is. So I. When she wakes up, she comes in my room. She's like, hey. You know when you act like you know how you got home? It's like the confidence that you have, like, oh, I had a good night. I woke up on my bed.

[Matt]

She's.

[Zane]

She's like, coming to my rooms, like, hey, Zane. I was like, hey. I was like. I was like, you don't know, do you? She's like, what? I was like, how'd you get in your bed? She's like, what? I, I, I got home, I was like, no. Boy, I had to, I had to pick you up.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. From the front. What door?

[Zane]

Uber driver. Had to get you up there. And the hallways are so tiny. I had to.

[Annie Letterman]

Boom. Boom.

[Zane]

I hit her head.

[Matt]

It's like.

[Heath]

It's like pinball going down the hallway.

[Matt]

Oh, my God.

[Zane]

No, I felt so. But she was out, so I was like, okay. Boom. But I just love the confidence in the morning when it's like you make it to your room after a night like that.

[Heath]

Think nobody knew.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Kind of.

[Zane]

So funny. Yeah. But he's. And I were watching Squid Games yesterday, and the reason why we're watching Squid Games yesterday is because Marcus, John, y' all remember Marcus Johnson from Vine.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Zane]

He's in the show. He's in the season. So we're like, we gotta find him to watch this. We gotta find it. We're watching.

[Matt]

We're watching.

[Zane]

We can't find it because, you know.

[Matt]

Take a hundred people. There's the beginning.

[Heath]

450 something.

[Zane]

It's like the shape of the show. It's 456.

[Matt]

Oh, that is 400 people. Yeah.

[Heath]

So it's crazy.

[Zane]

They're only, they're only really capturing maybe 15 to 20 people of, like, people that are eating either, like, loud or obnoxious or, you know, good strategists or someone who's talking a lot or someone who's, like, weird or whatever. And we're just like, we're. We're like, where's Marcus? Where's Marcus? And we see him for a quick split second.

[Heath]

We're like, we got him. We got him.

[Zane]

And we didn't see him for the rest of the time.

[Matt]

We're like, he get eliminated.

[Zane]

So we found out on episode. I don't want to ruin it, but. Yeah, no, because it just came out. I don't want to ruin it. People are watching it. But pretty much all we have to say is that we. We have, like, it's been four episodes. We haven't seen him except for that one little shot that was a mistake.

[Matt]

Or maybe they're saving him for later.

[Heath]

It's just like. It's just weird. You don't see him.

[Matt]

Yeah. Sometimes there's, like, silent sleepers they keep in, like reality shows. Bachelor starts. Yes. You get the introductions, but you really don't get to see one girl until, like, episode three.

[Heath]

It's so weird because we're like four episodes in, and I'm like, I've never seen that person in my life. And it's only down to, like, 20 people. I'm like, they've been showing so much. I'm like, I've never seen that person. Who is that?

[Zane]

I always. I always imagine myself in a show like that because you always wonder, like, are they going to put the cameras on you? Are they never going to put the cameras on you? Are going to even talk to anybody? Are you going to strategize with anybody? Are you going to keep silent and keep to yourself? Like, I always wonder how I would. I would love to be on a game show like that, but it being filmed, fudgeing stresses me out because, like, as soon as they got a camera on you and you did something or made a decision that makes you look.

[Heath]

Really bad because, like, you can wipe out a lot of people on your own mistake. And, like, just the people. The looks. The looks that they're giving of, like, somebody that just got them out there like this. Because, like, you go on that thinking, like, I'm gonna do my best. Right? And you can go do your best, but if somebody else drops the ball on you, you're like.

[Zane]

And you drop the ball. And 30 people behind you out.

[Matt]

Squid game, baby. That's how it goes.

[Zane]

One Mistake that you made gets a whole team out.

[Heath]

I don't think I could live with myself.

[Zane]

Yeah, because you ruined all their chances for 4.5 mil. Yeah, I get it spe a lot.

[Matt]

Speaking of game shows, I just auditioned for one.

[Heath]

Did you really?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Can you say what it is?

[Matt]

Sure, I can say what it is. I don't know if I've. I've gotten it yet.

[Zane]

Oh, okay.

[Matt]

Do you want to guess?

[Zane]

Oh, it's a game show.

[Matt]

It's a game show.

[Zane]

The Masked singer Jeopardy.

[Matt]

Pop culture Jeopardy.

[Zane]

Wait.

[Matt]

It's like a team of three. You have a team of three, and you audition, and the audition is like. It was just like a digital audition. Everyone has to do it. Yeah. And it was 50 questions, 15 seconds to respond, and 15 minutes total of the test.

[Heath]

Do you know your teammates?

[Matt]

Yeah, I know my teammates.

[Heath]

You get. You get to.

[Matt]

Like, we created our.

[Heath]

Got it.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay.

[Zane]

Oh, who is it?

[Matt]

It's you. Sure, I'll say it. It's Matt Grippy and Megan Guter.

[Zane]

Oh, wow.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Matt]

So it's like a per. They're like two of my friends that are big pop culture. Just nuts. And it was Megan's idea to start it. And we're auditioning, but we'll hear back if we get the big virtual audition. And then.

[Zane]

But this is only Pop Culture Jeopardy.

[Matt]

Only pop culture Jeopardy. It's hosted by Colin Jost. It's on.

[Zane]

On tv.

[Matt]

Yeah, I think.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't.

[Matt]

I think Netflix just bought it. It was on prime, but I think it's now switching to another net.

[Zane]

Oh, it's not out yet.

[Matt]

It's. Season one is out.

[Zane]

Oh, season one.

[Matt]

You're getting ready for season two. And I watched season one, and I can hang. Like, I can get most of the.

[Zane]

Questions right out of. Out of every category. I feel like pop culture would be the best for if you're like, you.

[Matt]

Know, that's where a regular Jeopardy. College Jeopardy. I can hang, but I'm not that big of a brain. Yeah.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

But pop culture. I feel like we have a good trio. I'm excited. We'll see.

[Zane]

They should do a Game of Thrones Jeopardy.

[Matt]

Also, last night. Last night, I lost my cool. I've never yelled this hard at somebody.

[Heath]

At your wife?

[Matt]

No, my wife. Not my wife. I was at a party. I was at a Disney drinking games party. It's, you know, like the Disney games. What?

[Heath]

Wait.

[Annie Letterman]

You know.

[Heath]

You know, like, Disney drinking games parties?

[Annie Letterman]

No.

[Matt]

Okay. Do you know the Disney games that happened in the early 2000 Games? So was An X Games. Disney Games. It looked like X Games, but it was like they would do challenges. It was like Zac Efron, Miley Cyrus.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay.

[Zane]

Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Matt]

So my friends Pablo and Alex, they hosted their fourth annual one this year, and they put so much effort into it. Everyone gets assigned a team. I was on team Blue, and they do a bunch of, like, drinking games. Okay, okay. And, like, the first game was, like, we had to drink all of these, like, beers and four locos and then stack up like, a puzzle of, like. Ours was the Cheetah Girl. Someone else had Lindsay Lohan. Other people had that. And then the next one was the biggest game of rock paper scissors I've ever seen. So everyone. It's like squid games. We're all on the floor, everyone playing, and you have to go up against someone, and it's just kind of honor rules. Whoever loses then has to go on the wall. And it gets smaller and smaller and smaller, so. And then it gets down to two people.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Zane]

So I have a feeling it's kind of like that basketball game that we were watching, right, Knockout? No, the basketball game we're watching on squid games.

[Heath]

Oh, something like that.

[Zane]

Like. Like on the court.

[Heath]

Yeah. So when you win, do you have to stay up there and face the next person? Yeah.

[Matt]

So once you win, you then have to play someone else who's also still in it. And you got to go, okay, smaller and smaller. So I. I won my first round, and then I was out. But then I started noticing some motherfucking cheaters playing the game because they were just some people. After they won, they would just stand around and not play another game. You know what I'm saying? So they would just wait around, not playing for it to get smaller.

[Zane]

Doesn't the person that's on the wall pick?

[Matt]

No. So I just realized that there were these cheaters, and I'm like. I go, okay, are you still in? You're still in? Y' all are playing each other. Y' all are playing each other.

[Zane]

Oh, all right. Are we playing for money or is it just for.

[Matt]

You know what? I don't know what, really the top prize was, because at the end of the night.

[Zane]

Principle for you?

[Matt]

Yeah, it's about principle. It's the principle of the game. And Pablo and Alex, they spot me on the ground, making sure people are playing. And these girls on the red team, they were in these juicy jumpsuits von Dutch hats. They were just keeping it low, not playing. I go, then you're cheating. You are cheating. Don't like, I raised my voice. People's heads were turning.

[Zane]

Is everybody drunk at this point? Everybody drinking? Okay, okay.

[Matt]

But I was like, what came out of me? Because I was just. I had never felt, like, more right. And just, like, true, genuine sportsmanship. And they were breaking the rules.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

And they kind of were like, oh, my God.

[Zane]

Because those type of people, that's gonna. That's gonna tell everybody they won the whole night, you know, they're gonna probably brag about it and.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

You don't wanna.

[Matt]

We were in good spirits, but I was worried, like, it was gonna get out of hand. Like, I don't know. It was just. I had never been that, like, drunk and angry and yelling in my life. It was quite a rush, but that's what happened. It was a great game, but we lost in Flip cup quarterfinals.

[Zane]

Do you think you lost because you kind of lost your cool and you brought the whole team?

[Matt]

No, I'm good at Flip cup.

[Heath]

Did it build morale or do you think it brought people down?

[Matt]

No, it boosted morale for sure. That's good. For sure. Just Flip cup. You know, people, they play flip cup. It's. It's just gentle. It's right there in the finger. People who like doing six flips, they're doing like, oh, it's crazy because they.

[Zane]

Think they got bricks in the cup.

[Matt]

And then they're like, sorry. And you have all those eyes on you, like, if it gets down, you feel stupid.

[Heath]

If you can't get it.

[Matt]

Oh, it's the worst feeling.

[Zane]

But it's. Sometimes you're watching. It's like, oh, it's definitely their first time playing, but they're like, no, no. I play this all the time. I was like, how do you not know? You just got it. Yeah.

[Matt]

Are you open to feedback?

[Zane]

We need to talk and, like, strategize a little bit.

[Matt]

Oh, but, man, I love flip cup, actually.

[Zane]

All right, so I. We all had our own kind of games yesterday, you know, that's good.

[Annie Letterman]

Squid games.

[Matt]

Disney.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Zane]

But I. You know, I wish I got to play a game. I want to play games last night.

[Matt]

I do love a good game.

[Heath]

I wish beard I was out when we were younger.

[Matt]

Beard eye is just all the rage.

[Zane]

Yeah. It's still people playing a lot still.

[Heath]

No. Yeah, it's like. It's like, one of, like, the bigger games now. But, like, that was on the way in when I was on the way out, and.

[Matt]

But not everyone can really play it, or you have to be kind of coordinated and good at it.

[Heath]

There's, like, Athleticism to it.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Like, beer pong is pretty inviting. Like, you could be like, okay, and you can hang and it's like, can I play?

[Heath]

Sure.

[Matt]

Beard eye. It's like there's a group of people playing it and they're doing it all night and they're not inviting anyone else to play.

[Heath]

They're doing, like full blown dives and.

[Zane]

They'Re like, yes, like, I can hit the table, but if that dice bounces on that table, I'm not catching it.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Zane]

It's just so hard to catch that. God, that die goes. Literally, it has 180 degrees of where it can go. I cannot react that fast. And it's so damn quick, even when I jump.

[Matt]

You could tear your ACL playing beard.

[Heath]

That's one of the games where you could really impress people or you could really embarrass yourself.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Like, it's.

[Zane]

And of course, you're always with somebody that's really good and you suck. You're trying your best.

[Matt]

What is the object of the game? Like, are we drinking?

[Heath]

So, like, everybody's got, like a beer, like, on the corner, basically. And then you have to, like, throw it up, but it has to land on their side of the table. If it hits the table and bounces and they catch it, they're saved. If it hits the table and bounces and it hits the ground, the other team has to, like, drink.

[Matt]

So there is a drink punish punishment. Or if you throw it up, really doing, like, going up drink.

[Heath]

I think.

[Zane]

I think the drink is like a boat. It's like a bonus in it.

[Heath]

Yeah, it's more of, like, to drink.

[Zane]

While you're counting points.

[Matt]

So people are counting points.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Heath]

And then I think it's like, okay, I wish I knew exactly how to play it. But I think also if you throw it up and it lands in their corner drink, they immediately have to, like, chug it.

[Matt]

Which is, like, amazing. Right?

[Zane]

It's a beer bottle or a cup. It's a beer bottle. If you hit the beer bottle, they have to like, that's like three points.

[Heath]

Yeah, there's like something like that and then. And then you, like, chug it. You keep the dye in your mouth and then you spit it out and it rolls. And if it lands on a certain number, like, automatic game over.

[Matt]

Disgusting.

[Heath]

There's, like, so much to it.

[Zane]

But we're like. We're too. I mean, we're growing from that. Yeah, we don't play that type of anymore.

[Matt]

No, no. Us playing beard. I. Todd, can play good beer Die. I've seen you play. You're pretty good at it. I'm not.

[Zane]

I'm not. It's. It's. It's really tough.

[Heath]

And I, I would pull up with like knee and elbow pads though.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Heath]

If we were like, to get like a game going, I, you know, I gotta. I gotta prepare.

[Zane]

The few times I played was at the beach. So you could like dive in the sand. You're not hurting yourself.

[Matt]

You could lose the damn dice in that sand.

[Heath]

True.

[Annie Letterman]

It's. Yeah.

[Zane]

But like, it's not gonna.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

You kind of know where it's going.

[Matt]

Skid. And it fell in like, oh, married.

[Zane]

But you can still find it. It's not like that tough.

[Matt]

Has it always been around or did it just like. Did someone invent it? I don't feel like anyone was playing it at all in college. Never saw it.

[Zane]

Not. Not when we were in college. Now that's gonna be great.

[Matt]

When you come up with a drinking game and it just takes over. Like, what's the social network for? Flip cup.

[Annie Letterman]

Like beer.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Beer pong.

[Zane]

And I mean, they still do those, like relay. Those relay races for drinking.

[Matt]

Beard eye, also known as Snappa, was inv 70s with the most widely cited origin being the Alpha Tau omega shout out Ato at the University of Maine in 1972. So it must have been kind of like an up east thing and then just spread. I bet the rise of social media, like.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Videos of it and people playing it. Yeah, I bet that had a lot to do with it. I bet it's kind of wild. We lived in a time where like micro video content was just like. It was just vine. But like, Twitter didn't have video. Instagram didn't have video.

[Heath]

No, it was.

[Matt]

Maybe you could upload like little videos. But it wasn't like this. It was dream of discovery.

[Zane]

You would see more vine videos on Twitter than like. Yeah, yeah.

[Matt]

There's only six seconds. It wasn't like how to play beard like that.

[Zane]

It's over like crazy.

[Matt]

I thought this was Thanksgiving themed. It is where you're told me to wear out false.

[Zane]

I'm wearing fall colors.

[Matt]

You told me to wear a fall sweater.

[Zane]

Well, because you would like to wear false sweaters.

[Heath]

Because you would have been disappointed in yourself if you didn't get to wear a false sweater.

[Zane]

If we posted this on Thanksgiving, you would have been annoyed that we didn't tell you as a Thanksgiving episode. So that's why we told you it was a thing.

[Matt]

Sure. And I'm not mad. There's no decorations, but it's just like. I feel like I'm the only festive thing in here.

[Zane]

We don't. We don't do usually how it is.

[Matt]

Wear my matching socks, too.

[Heath]

And your cup. You're fully matched.

[Zane]

You would like to do that, though. That's why we told you.

[Matt]

Okay. Okay.

[Zane]

I literally don't have a fall sweater. Like, I have no fall sweaters.

[Matt]

You should get some.

[Heath]

I had enough room to pack five T shirts in my suitcase here.

[Zane]

And you wear the same one. Boo.

[Matt]

That's right.

[Zane]

I kind of like that.

[Heath]

You know, I'm getting a little bit bigger. I only have a select group of clothes that still fit me.

[Matt]

So that is just what gets for even T shirts. You're like. That affects size. That was the pants.

[Heath]

What's wrong with that?

[Matt]

I don't know. What size shirts do you wear?

[Heath]

Large.

[Matt]

Large. Were you wearing mediums when you were.

[Heath]

Are you shaming me?

[Matt]

No, I'm not.

[Heath]

I just feel like I was wearing mediums.

[Matt]

Oh, you were. Okay. Just nothing.

[Zane]

There's nothing wrong.

[Matt]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Zane]

Nothing wrong.

[Matt]

I was just.

[Heath]

My pants are a little tight, too. You want to talk about that?

[Zane]

Try being his size.

[Matt]

Matt, you don't understand.

[Heath]

Try sympathy eating. For sympathy eating. You know what? When she wants ice cream, I got to be right there by her side and have twice as much yes.

[Zane]

To make her feel good that she's even having one.

[Matt]

Are you all quoting something?

[Annie Letterman]

No.

[Matt]

Oh, sounded very quotable. I was like. Was that from the.

[Heath]

No. Yeah.

[Zane]

No.

[Heath]

So I just. You know, when she wants pizza, we get pizza.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Zane]

Pizza Fridays. Yeah, that's good.

[Matt]

From where?

[Heath]

So our favorite spots out in Tennessee so far. There's one place I really like called Mineos. There's a place called Little Hats. That's really good.

[Matt]

Love it.

[Heath]

And then there's another place that we just went to. I forget what it's called, but dude, everybody there, full blown Italian. It is unbelievable.

[Matt]

Hell yeah.

[Heath]

Very, very good.

[Annie Letterman]

Hello.

[Matt]

What up? What up?

[Zane]

Good Shardy.

[Annie Letterman]

Wait, by the way, that clock behind your head is like my life.

[Zane]

Are you on? Are you on the melting?

[Matt]

The melting time?

[Annie Letterman]

No, I'm just saying, I'm like. I have, like, time blindness. I'm like. I look at the clock and I'm like, what time is it?

[Zane]

It's not a working clock, but we.

[Annie Letterman]

Thought it's always 4:20. Yeah, it should be.

[Zane]

Oh, it is.

[Annie Letterman]

It is it at 420?

[Zane]

Yeah, it is.

[Annie Letterman]

Everyone else has the same.

[Zane]

I didn't set it, but it is.

[Heath]

I didn't set that either.

[Zane]

From where I probably did it. Y hoes ready?

[Matt]

Yeah. Let's do it.

[Zane]

It's com, baby.

[Annie Letterman]

Let's go.

[Zane]

Dance your socks on, Manny.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, trying to get my feet out already.

[Zane]

Welcome back to Zane and Heath Unfiltered. I'm Zayn.

[Heath]

I'm Heath.

[Matt]

I'm Matt.

[Zane]

And today we have a special guest. We have the funniest comedian I've ever seen in my entire life, Annie Letterman.

[Annie Letterman]

What's up?

[Matt]

Welcome.

[Annie Letterman]

And you know he's a real insanity because he pronounced my last name right. What's up?

[Zane]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Thank you.

[Heath]

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[Zane]

We love the first time I saw you ever was, I think, like seven years ago or eight years ago. I remember I came into the comedy club and you were in a lineup with, like, top, top people. And then it was you.

[Matt]

And.

[Zane]

And I remember. And I've never, like, heard of you.

[Heath]

I'm a bottom.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm not a top.

[Zane]

And I remember you that day, that night, you made me cry. I was cry laughing at your entire set. And I wish I remember what it was was, but I was cry laughing at your entire site.

[Annie Letterman]

That's my goal. Bring people to.

[Zane]

You made me laugh so hard. Where I had to DM you after, which I never do. I DM'd you after. And I saw it when I DM'd you yesterday to get your number for this. And I was like, oh, that's so embarrassing.

[Annie Letterman]

I write it back. What did I write you back?

[Zane]

You did. You did? Yeah. You're being sweet. I DM you saying, damn, you made me cry a lot today. Today. Like, thank you for that. And you said you. Like you said, you're welcome, peasant. But, yeah, I saw that yesterday and reminded me of.

[Annie Letterman]

That is so embarrassing when that happens. What? When you, like, realize you sent someone a dm, Like a fan dm, so long ago. You finally got, like, an experience. We got to meet them, like, as peers.

[Heath]

Trying to delete it real quick.

[Annie Letterman]

I never delete. I will never delete because I'm so. I think the most embarrassing thing you get caught doing is deleting a dm.

[Zane]

Yeah. And also it notifies them. It says unsent a message. So, like, you know that.

[Annie Letterman]

But don't you think that sort of. That is, like, more embarrassing than anything you could have actually said to someone?

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Getting caught trying to hide.

[Zane]

You're retracting it.

[Matt]

Have you ever. Have you ever accidentally sent the wrong message to somebody else? Like, talking about someone and then you sent it right to their inbox?

[Zane]

You said that like, you have a good one.

[Matt]

Oh, it's happened. It's never happened. I've never done it, but I've gotten.

[Heath]

No way.

[Annie Letterman]

You got one. Someone talking on you multiple times.

[Matt]

Multiple times. Actually, probably two times.

[Annie Letterman]

Matt, I didn't know you were just a piece of.

[Matt]

That's literally what the text message was. Matt is little, but it was like.

[Zane]

It was a good friend, too.

[Matt]

It was my roommate in college.

[Zane]

Oh, also the other one.

[Matt]

The other.

[Heath]

The other one was even better.

[Matt]

I can't even say what that one is because everyone would know who it is.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Zane]

It's too specific. It was. It was really Bad. But, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Wait, no. Okay. And then what do you do when that happens? Do you pretend you didn't see it?

[Heath]

Of course I.

[Matt]

Well, no, I waited for him to realize he sent it because it.

[Annie Letterman]

It's going to hurt them more than you. Yeah, because they realize they're so.

[Zane]

It is crazy how much it hurts that other person immediately the moment they send that accidentally. Oh, you lost.

[Annie Letterman]

I had a guy that was working for me. He was, like, a videographer, and he was a new comic, but he wasn't good or anything yet. Like, he was so, so new. And he texted me. I guess he thought he was texting his wife. He's like, I had this big show with, like, Bill Burr on it and stuff, and it was, like. It was just completely sold out. Like, such a good show. And he wrote his wife and was like. Like, annie said she was gonna put me up, but I guess she forgot. And I was like, I wrote, you're not ready. I was like, so. I was, like, so mad. But I also was like, that's so embarrassing for him because I totally stopped working with him. I was like, I don't want to work. It's so annoying that he's, like, angling for this. And. And you know what?

[Zane]

It sucks because, like, everybody does it a lot.

[Heath]

Everybody.

[Zane]

But, like, it just sucks when you see it. The moment you see, you're like, oh, wow.

[Heath]

You know, immediately that that is you. You can no longer be friends with that person.

[Zane]

Like, always think about it.

[Heath]

It is. It's just cut off. Like, that's it.

[Zane]

But this one, the one we're talking about, we can't. Do you want to talk about it?

[Annie Letterman]

There's got to be a way.

[Matt]

Oh, the Snapchat one.

[Zane]

Yeah, that one's really good.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Zane]

But this one, like, this one hits close.

[Matt]

Okay. Basically, I told a friend that I was, like, going through a breakup, that I hadn't told anyone, anybody about this breakup at all. And then I get a DM on Snapchat from, like, a fan or something saying, like, this really rude thing about me, about us, like, breaking up. I wish I could remember the exact message, but I'm like, this is really strange. And I sent this screenshot to our friend, and I'm like, do you know who this is? Is this you? What is this? And he's like, oh, no, no, no, man. No, that's. That was just, like, a fan who's, like, been harassing you, and I've been sticking up for you and stuff. And so that's not that didn't know that's not me. That's just this really mean fan or whatever in the handle on it was like, Skater Boy 8765, whatever. And I'm like, interesting. I'm just like, how would this fan know this information? I then go on the Internet and I search Skater Boys 67, which I would have never. And I find it's my friend's old YouTube channel from when he was in high school. It's his burner account on Snapchat. So he was like, like trying, like cyberbolt.

[Heath]

He was trying to like troll you.

[Matt]

Whoa. Oh. Because then he sends a screenshot of him corresponding with this fan and him sticking up for me and all of this stuff. So he sends. Oh, no, he sends it to me before. No, he sends it me before.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Matt]

I catch him just red handed with the screenshot that he sends me with this whole correspondence and his YouTube page. And I'm like, you lied to me, buddy.

[Annie Letterman]

That person leave hot.

[Heath]

Like, I'm so glad you.

[Annie Letterman]

Yes.

[Heath]

I'm so glad you said something though. Like, that you kept pushing it.

[Zane]

Yeah, yeah. And because you called him out on it. Right? Like, I did.

[Matt]

I did. It was really hard, like having to send that.

[Zane]

Because even at that point after you heard all that, you still don't want to hurt them.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

After they did all that to you.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, it's so bad what they did. That's so crazy. It's so calculated playing two characters.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

But then like, they're like their whole. They're gonna crumble when you. But it's.

[Matt]

And a year went by. I didn't talk to him for a year. And then I was at Coachella on Molly and we were walking around and I said, hey, buddy, I forgive you, man. He was like, really, dude? I was like, yeah, man. We like hugged each other and, you.

[Zane]

Know, you woke up, you regret it every moment.

[Heath]

And that's my drugs.

[Matt]

I still like the guy. He was battling his own demons. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

It's like, yeah, it's about him. It's not about you.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

That's so psychotic.

[Matt]

Very psychotic. I'll never forget it.

[Zane]

Yeah, but we've all had moments like that. I. I've never done it. But sometimes you're like, I want to play two people. I wish I could.

[Annie Letterman]

Or. Yeah, you wish you could. Like. Yeah, I've never done like a fake account where you go and like troll or whatever or defend yourself. I'm always like, I kind of. Sometimes I want my brother in law to do. I'm like, yo, can you, like. I'm like, who's gonna really bring it back to you?

[Zane]

You need a burner account to really defend you.

[Matt]

Sometimes I feel like that happens a lot on Reddit. Like, some influencer will be in some scandal, and then, like, someone will start commenting, like, defending the person, and everyone, like, looks at the account. It's like. Like, this is you, by the way.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. It's so easy. I would never even attempt because it's too. The getting busted, being fake.

[Zane]

It's not worth it.

[Annie Letterman]

So embarrassing.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

No way.

[Heath]

And then, like, just the. That's not me.

[Annie Letterman]

It's funny when someone goes, oh, okay. Yeah. They're like, when someone's here. Yeah.

[Matt]

And you're like, were you, like, a chronically online kid? Were you, like, into, like, MySpace chat? AOL.

[Annie Letterman]

One of my best friends I met on MySpace, and we're still. We've been just friends for 20 years.

[Matt]

Beautiful.

[Annie Letterman]

We went to a party together. That was a themed party. It was an 80s prom party.

[Heath]

Nice.

[Annie Letterman]

And so I saw his, like, picture was from the part. His profile picture was from the party. And then I thought he was, like, funny. And he doesn't. He's, like, a boob guy. So we never had, like, a sexual.

[Zane]

Oh, okay.

[Annie Letterman]

It's like, I really was like, I'm so glad. Like, we have such a good friendship. There was never, like, a question. And. Yeah, we've just been best friends for so long. He actually. My fiance works for him. Works. He works on Outlast.

[Matt]

Wow.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Zane]

The. The reality Viking show.

[Annie Letterman]

No, Outlast is the. It's a.

[Matt]

It's like survival.

[Annie Letterman]

Survival show.

[Zane]

Oh, my bad. I don't know why that was.

[Heath]

They just dropped season two for that. Right.

[Annie Letterman]

Season three.

[Heath]

Oh, wow.

[Zane]

Could you do something like that?

[Annie Letterman]

No, but I kind of want to do a series. Like, a series of videos of me learning to be like that because I could.

[Heath]

Oh.

[Zane]

So kind of like, I want to.

[Annie Letterman]

Learn to, like, make fire and.

[Zane]

Oh, you should do that. Like, but do that for, like, on your own channel.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, exactly.

[Zane]

Yeah. And then you go on a show like this after, like, preparing yourself, and I crush it.

[Heath]

Making a fire is so much harder than you think.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. You're like, this would be so easy.

[Matt]

Can you have flint? Is flint allowed?

[Heath]

So I think on. So on this show, you're allowed to bring a few items, right? Like, you're allowed to, like, you could change your loadout.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

So, like, you could bring, like, a knife or you could bring.

[Matt]

Yeah, okay.

[Heath]

Your flint.

[Matt]

But you bring a magnifying glass and then you.

[Annie Letterman]

Survivor one year. Do you guys watch Survivor?

[Heath]

I used to.

[Zane]

Yeah, I used to.

[Annie Letterman]

So one time that a guy used his glasses and was able to start fire. But on Survivor, they have you. You play for Flint. Like, you can win the Flint and stuff, but sometimes people have no. Yeah, they have no fire. It is crazy. You could just die on one of these shows.

[Zane]

What's Flint made out of? Can you, like, find flint?

[Matt]

It's like a mineral.

[Heath]

It's basically like a.

[Matt]

Like a rock.

[Heath]

Like a stone type thing that you.

[Zane]

Oh, I thought Flint was like the.

[Heath]

The.

[Zane]

The tw. The twig.

[Annie Letterman]

He's thinking about Flint, Michigan.

[Heath]

He's like.

[Annie Letterman]

I thought it was a. Have water.

[Matt]

Just spinny thing.

[Zane]

Oh, that's Flint, bro. In my head, like, I think of Flint. I think a thread.

[Annie Letterman]

It, like, sparks it. I do too. I'm not going to lie.

[Zane]

I'm thinking of, like, hair that's going to help make the fire. I just didn't know Flint. That image does not look like the word Flint. I'm sorry for some, like, for you see me, I've never.

[Annie Letterman]

Because there's lint in Flint. That's what you're thinking.

[Heath]

That's where the.

[Zane]

Thank you for being my brain. Mariah would have caught that.

[Matt]

But Lynn is really good to start a fire, right?

[Heath]

Yeah, it's a good.

[Matt]

Is it flammable or like.

[Heath]

Yeah, it's a good magnesium shreds.

[Matt]

There we go.

[Zane]

So that'd be one of the few.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay. You have a little extra.

[Heath]

I prep for the end of the world.

[Annie Letterman]

So you would crash Survivor.

[Heath]

I'm one of those people. If I have to, I feel like I'd thrive. I would not voluntarily go do it.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, well, we're too cool for Survivor now. I don't want to be rude to Survivor, but. But their contestants are nerds now.

[Zane]

Yeah. Can. Can I tell you what your character would be for Survivor? Yeah, this is you. Because strategizing at all, there's no strategy. You are just literally just helping them get food, make shelter and all that. And you're so sweet. Where they, like, feel bad to vote you out, but you're really bringing in the group because you are doing everything.

[Matt]

I appreciate that.

[Zane]

But then at some point they're gonna kick your ass out because they're just like, okay, well, you can't be. Your guy doesn't want to win the money. He just wants to.

[Matt]

You can't be too likable. Yeah, yeah. You can't be too like, personality game, big time.

[Heath]

See, that's what throws me off with those things. Like, we were talk squid games earlier. Like, it's all politics inside of there, and you're just trying to, like, good side people and, like, the backstabbing that goes on.

[Matt]

Alliances, all of it.

[Heath]

Because if I watch that show back and I saw what was going on that I was unaware of, I would be so mad. It would. It would ruin me.

[Zane]

Do you think that people on the show, when they're watching the other seasons, preparing for it, do you think they're watching? They're like, I'm not going to backstab anybody. And then they're on the show.

[Annie Letterman]

Absolutely. 100.

[Zane]

Because I feel like when you're in there, it just. Everything change.

[Heath]

I feel like, how about when the.

[Annie Letterman]

People, like, get voted off and they're like, well, I would rather get voted off, like, with my integrity. It's like, would you. $5 million. You could start a whole campaign becoming, like, a person with integrity.

[Zane]

No one's gonna remember that. Yeah, your family and friends are gonna remember that, but they're gonna forget about it. And you're not. You're not gonna make money from that.

[Annie Letterman]

You're all caught up with this. The amount that's out now with the squid game. Yes.

[Zane]

We watched all four yesterday.

[Annie Letterman]

I know you can't stop.

[Matt]

Is it $5 million? What's the price?

[Zane]

4.5, 4.5? 3.

[Annie Letterman]

But last year he made it 10. Oh, yeah.

[Zane]

Oh, sorry.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, no, I'm sorry. No, I'm thinking. No, no, no. I was thinking. I confused them. I confused.

[Zane]

That was so good.

[Annie Letterman]

All of them are so, so good.

[Heath]

It's too much money, though. I think it ruins people.

[Annie Letterman]

Who's gonna have any integrity when it's. It's too crazy. But maybe that's what it is.

[Heath]

Yes. When you go on Wheel of Fortune and you could win, like, 10 grand, it's like you. If you lose the 10 grand or whatever it is or any other competitive show, you're like, oh, all right. Whatever. It was 10 grand. Like, yeah, it's a. But it's like, okay, when you have the opportunity to win 4.5 million and it's within your reach and you mess up, I would not be able to.

[Matt]

Live like a wife and kids at home all watching.

[Heath]

I ruined it for you.

[Matt]

Yeah, that would. I need a therapist. Too much.

[Heath]

Way too much money.

[Zane]

It's crazy because people. People online will complain about people that, like, hold these type of shows, like, oh, this is so, like, hunger.

[Heath]

Like, this Unethical.

[Matt]

Unethical.

[Zane]

And it's like, like they're at least giving them a chance to win some money.

[Annie Letterman]

It's so fun. That's what justifies it. The big chunk at the end. That's the problem though, cuz you can with these people if you have that much money. Yeah. Waiting at the end, you can really mess with them.

[Heath]

It's really fun cuz if you only.

[Annie Letterman]

Have like a little bit of money, you're like, that's kind of messed up. You did that. Like people in this position, but they all sign on. They all sign on. That's the thing about reality tv that's so fun. It's like you guys signed on, it's.

[Heath]

They knew what they were signing up for.

[Annie Letterman]

And a lot of these shows, it's like, you know, people go on first season of these shows like you have no clue what it is. And I think people just want to be. Do you. Have you guys ever watched Married at first Sight?

[Matt]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

I think that's like a horror. That's like a horror movie. Watching that, it's like literally the craziest thing in the entire.

[Zane]

Is it. Is it like a love is blind, like type, like they're married, they get.

[Annie Letterman]

Legally married to a stranger and it's real.

[Zane]

Oh, that's that you see, to me, that's up.

[Matt]

Is there a prize though or is this just a social experiment?

[Annie Letterman]

Prize? It's a social experiment and it's horrible. They pair them with the worst people. There was one person that was named Noi and that her la. They married her to a guy named, whose last name was Moy. So her name was Noi.

[Matt]

Moi.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like, you should be in prison. You should be in prison for doing.

[Matt]

That incentive that you're just.

[Annie Letterman]

That they want to get married. It's like what a loser scenario this is.

[Zane]

Are all these people, they can't find anybody so they put themselves in this situation because they're like kind of desperate, I think.

[Annie Letterman]

But I have a theory that, that it's people that want to be on reality TV just want to. They just apply for everything.

[Heath]

This is what it is.

[Annie Letterman]

And then they don't even get that many followers. I'm like, these people, I'm like, oh my God, you need to break at least 100k. Do they like give them a shot?

[Matt]

Do they ever like spotlight the matchmakers? Like we're the people that put all these people together.

[Annie Letterman]

They come in, it's Pastor Cow, it's a woman named Dr. Pepper Schwartz and it's like, it's you. You cannot go by Dr. Pepper.

[Zane]

Legitimately. Her name is.

[Annie Letterman]

Her name is Dr. Pepper Schwartz. And it's not. No one's making jokes about it.

[Matt]

I do like the name Pepper or her name. Oh, her first name's Pepper and she happened. She got her doctorate, but you want.

[Annie Letterman]

To just say, call her Dr. Schwartz. Dr. Pepper Schwartz.

[Zane]

You know, she loves it, though.

[Annie Letterman]

She loves you.

[Matt]

Given the name Pepper, you're like, I might as well get my doctorate. Just to be like, isn't there.

[Zane]

Isn't there a cartoon character? Pepper?

[Matt]

Peppa Pig. I love Peppa Pig.

[Annie Letterman]

Look at our queen. And then they have like a sexper and there's been two different ones and they come out and these people are just. They just put them in hell. It's evil.

[Zane]

Damn.

[Annie Letterman]

But it's their fault for wanting to be on the show.

[Heath]

What?

[Zane]

Reality TV isn't hell though, right? I mean, there's not one reality like this.

[Annie Letterman]

Have you guys been contestants on reality shows ever?

[Matt]

No. I was on let's Make a Deal.

[Annie Letterman]

Really?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

How'd it go?

[Matt]

I went down for the. The final or the big deal? Yeah, I got to risk it all for the big deal. I won a. A outdoor patio. But I risked it and I had to pick between the three doors and I went with door number two. I spent like the night before watching all the episodes trying to figure out there was a strategy in the game before. There was a car in door number three. And I was like, they wouldn't keep a car in that. They would move it. And I felt like the middle would be it.

[Heath]

And what was the right door?

[Matt]

Well, all of them are prizes. The first one, door. So I go, I'm going to door number one or door number two. And he goes, let's see what was in door number one. It was $6,666 in cash.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, that's. That's satanic.

[Matt]

I know. And then the second door, which is what I won. And in that moment, I knew I wasn't winning the grand prize. I won a Samsung 75 inch OLED TV with a mid century modern credenza from West. All right, it was. I was happy I won, right? And then the final one was like a. A seven day trip to London, staying at all the finest resorts and doing all the best things. But Matt, it's not just the trip of London. You would have won everything here. You would have won the $666,000.

[Annie Letterman]

Why are you private?

[Zane]

But I still went home with the tv. That's Good.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, the thing. Well, you can't lose, right? There's a pride.

[Matt]

There's thonked. Like, in any of the games leading up, it's either.

[Annie Letterman]

Because that would be fun. There should be an option to leave with nothing. Yeah. I mean, that really keeps the stakes high. But I guess the TV was the night.

[Matt]

But when you get down to the final one, only one person out of all the contestants goes down. And I just couldn't believe it was.

[Zane]

And to make it even better, it was a Christmas episode, so he got to wear a ranger.

[Matt]

Is it a reindeer outfit Costume?

[Zane]

I mean, that's the best way to do let's Make a Deal, I feel.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Patio furniture is not the best.

[Heath]

It's always patio furniture.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Why do a pat. Or even when they're like a new dining room set, you're like, to get rid of my dining room set already.

[Zane]

Now, looking back when you're old, when you look at. You're like, oh, this whole set is $200.

[Annie Letterman]

It's like Ikea. Yeah.

[Matt]

You sit that. It just breaks.

[Zane]

It's terrible.

[Annie Letterman]

And you're just like. I guess like, I. I just don't see a scenario where that's like some like the most needed thing.

[Heath]

An outdoor barbecue gr.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, I live in an apartment. Like, I have a condo. Shit.

[Matt]

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[Annie Letterman]

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[Matt]

New Yaris Kia Forte, A Yaris.

[Heath]

And what's annoying, too, is when you win a car, you have to pay the taxes on it.

[Annie Letterman]

I know.

[Zane]

So if you're broke, don't tell them that.

[Heath]

What do you do? You go, I can't accept it.

[Zane]

Well, no, you just. Well, in that moment, you just sell it. Right. Because you don't have to pay for taxes.

[Heath]

You have to pay the taxes is to get the car and then you sell it. Or they do like a cash alternative. If you can't accept the car.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, they give you an Alternative. I didn't know.

[Matt]

Yeah, they did give me that opportunity as well.

[Annie Letterman]

But how much was your tv?

[Matt]

It all. The total with the mid century modern Credenza was like $3,000. So I think it was like a 1500 TV. 1500 credenza.

[Annie Letterman]

And you took the money?

[Matt]

No, I took the TV and the credenza.

[Annie Letterman]

And you have it? Yeah.

[Matt]

It's great when people come over, like, great tv. I'm like, yeah, I want it coming.

[Heath]

To your house, saying, great tv.

[Matt]

A lot. A lot of people.

[Annie Letterman]

It.

[Matt]

It's a big ass.

[Annie Letterman]

Can we see what the credenza looks like?

[Matt]

It's a mid. It's. When I'm saying a mid century modern, it's a. It's.

[Annie Letterman]

What is a credenza?

[Heath]

Like a TV stand?

[Matt]

Like, it's like a tv.

[Zane]

It's. That's a credenza.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

I thought it was an entertainment.

[Heath]

It's so stupid. They have so. So many different names. Sideboard, buffet. Credenza. It's dresser.

[Matt]

It's like the one.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I see what I.

[Matt]

You know what I mean? It looks just like that. It's like walnut.

[Annie Letterman]

It would be cool if it was like a Roman. Like a really crazy epic thing.

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah.

[Heath]

Given out some ancient artifacts as prizes.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, my God. A human skull. Here's a mummified.

[Heath]

A real shrunken Diana. Give people something they want.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Like, here's Gene Hackman's wife, mummified. Sorry. I'm still traumatized for them telling us that. They're like, she was found mummified. We're like, why did.

[Zane]

Wait, who?

[Matt]

Gene?

[Annie Letterman]

Remember when Gene Hackman was found dead in his house? And they're like, his wife was mummified. I'm like, guys, yeah, it was.

[Matt]

Him and his wife were. Their dog. Why did dog.

[Annie Letterman]

And a dog die, too? But I love New Mexico. I lived there for seven years. So he died in Santa Fe in his house. House. He had Alzheimer's, so he probably didn't even know what was going on. His wife died. I guess they. They got some sort of, like, neurovirus or something, some sort of virus they got. And so she. She was his caretaker. She passed away, like, in the. I'm like, traumatized by this, and I'm making everyone else be traumatized. And so she passed away in the bathroom with one of their dogs.

[Matt]

Oh. And then he didn't know she's dead. And then he ends up dying.

[Annie Letterman]

He's dying.

[Matt]

Oh, that's.

[Heath]

I'm kind of like, where's the mummification? Come in.

[Annie Letterman]

She was mummified when they found her. I don't know why we had to know this, but.

[Zane]

But I don't like.

[Matt]

What do you mean?

[Zane]

Mummified is when you.

[Matt]

I bet they kept it really cold in the house and just the corpse just mummified there a while.

[Heath]

Why was that such a big part of our childhood that we had to know about them putting the. The thing up the nose into the brain to drain it.

[Annie Letterman]

And quicksand.

[Heath]

You don't remember Quick sand.

[Annie Letterman]

And dinosaurs. We know a lot about. If you think about it, a lot of information about dinosaurs.

[Matt]

You went to. I feel like I read this somewhere. You went to a Quaker school.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, grew up.

[Matt]

What is a Quaker school?

[Annie Letterman]

In like, a Quaker school is. So. It was an elementary school. It's called. They're called friend schools. My school is Green Street Friend school.

[Matt]

Lovely.

[Annie Letterman]

And so Quaker meeting is like church, but it's silence. So you sit in silence and you're all facing each other and you. If you feel moved to speak, like it's like God speaking through. You can stand up and talk.

[Heath]

This is every day.

[Annie Letterman]

You could say, no, you do it like on Sundays. But then at school they had it on Wednesdays for the kids. But you're in cuz you're a little kid. So you're like, I don't want to ye. Do that.

[Matt]

Someone like moderating it, like, all right, Becca.

[Annie Letterman]

That's my meeting house. That's where we would have it.

[Matt]

Wow.

[Zane]

Oh, wow.

[Matt]

And if you feel moved to speak, is someone timing it or someone like, all right.

[Annie Letterman]

No, no, no, no. I spoke every time. I have a twin brother and he was like, you were up every time.

[Heath]

You're doing. You're doing bits up there.

[Annie Letterman]

I was doing bits. I literally think it's why I do stand up because I was like. And I was. I would get so nervous, I'd be like, all right. And sometimes you would fall start. You'd be like, no, not ready, just making kids. And you would see someone fall start and they'd like try to play it off. And I would stand up. But Max said I would always try to say something really profound. Like I would stand up and I'd be like, sometimes I think about like the kids in Somalis. Like, you always had like the teachers, like. Or I remember standing up and saying really? Like, like crazy thoughts I was having. I remember standing up and being like, do you ever think about what if you weren't you and you were born? And it was like someone else's Eyes you were seeing through. And you wouldn't have the same teachers or mom. Yeah. Why am I me and everyone. Everyone's like, what?

[Heath]

That's a really mature way to like.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, I was in, like, first grade. I was like, can someone help me? I feel weird.

[Zane]

Were you popular in high school?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, I went to a juvenile delinquent high school, so there were 17 of us. So. Yeah.

[Zane]

What?

[Annie Letterman]

I'd say I was top. Top.

[Zane]

Wait, that's seven. You had 17 people in your classroom?

[Annie Letterman]

17 kids in my graduating class.

[Heath]

What did you do to go to a juvenile delinquent school?

[Annie Letterman]

I. They had a good army art program. My parents didn't realize, like, if you put a kid, like, towards juvenile delinquents, they shall become one. They were like, this is a cool art program. The school was weird. It just had, like, pillows on the ground and.

[Heath]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Okay, let's be real. We had to take some of the teachers to court. It wasn't the best school, but it was. But it was, like, a weird place that it was, like, an artsy.

[Zane]

Do you want to open that up?

[Annie Letterman]

It's kind of a story I've hit a lot, but.

[Zane]

Oh, okay.

[Annie Letterman]

I mean, we can't. I mean, I took my teacher to court when I was in high school. It's just when I talk about on pockets, we're like, oh, here she goes. And I'm like, no, I mean, we got it. I'm like, no, I took my. I had an art teacher that Jackson Pollocked my leg. Oh. With his paint.

[Zane]

Wait.

[Matt]

And also, yeah, he was your art teacher, and he, like, convinced your parents.

[Annie Letterman]

To, like, let me sleep over that. It was like, yeah, grooming.

[Matt]

Oh, that is crazy.

[Annie Letterman]

Jackson Pollock, like, He, like, spackles. He's spackled.

[Zane]

Yeah. Oh, okay.

[Annie Letterman]

But I took him to court, but the school was, like, a shady. It's just like, I really, like, I see my future having a fun little Netflix special.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, I see that in my future, but making it funny somehow.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Every time I took pictures, they're like, how would it be funny? I'm like, I promise. I promise you it'll be hilarious. Serious.

[Zane]

Oh, boy.

[Annie Letterman]

But I think it was, like, you know, an alternate. I think that happens a lot at schools like that because they're. The kids are less trustworthy, so the.

[Heath]

Teachers are like, the pillows on the ground, it makes.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, that's what I told my parents. No, the pills. I was like, it was easier to us. They're like, lay down, children. Have a nap. But we. Yeah, no, we were, like, all druggies, too, so we were, like, going and smoking weed and breaking in people's houses. We were breaking. Yeah, we were bad.

[Zane]

Religious schools have the worst kids.

[Annie Letterman]

No, the Quaker elementary school. And then I went to the juvenile.

[Zane]

Oh, got it. Well, I meant the. I meant the. Oh, the Quaker school is not the separate schools.

[Annie Letterman]

They're separate schools. But that. The Quaker school is actually good. I. I like Quaker schools. I think they're really cute. And it's very, like. It's just sweet. It's very, like, open. Yeah, Chill.

[Heath]

Pennsylvania.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, it was in Philadelphia.

[Heath]

Okay, cool.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, but Quakers, there's. Yeah, there's different types of Quakers all around.

[Matt]

Pete Holmes, I think, went to a Quaker school as well.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pete and I have, like, parallel a lot of people.

[Matt]

Oh, I bet. What I didn't think.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Okay. Is that having anything to do with quicker.

[Heath]

I still don't really understand. Like, I don't either.

[Zane]

I like.

[Annie Letterman]

You want to ask me some questions?

[Heath]

Well, my wife's family is all in Allentown.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay. Oh, fun. Okay.

[Heath]

So, like, I know. I. I know a little bit. But yeah, just like, the whole.

[Annie Letterman]

That's Quaker as. There's Allentown Friends School. There's Allentown Meeting House.

[Heath]

Okay. Yeah. Like, we just like, see Quaker Town all the time, and I'm just like, what? All I can picture is the Amish.

[Annie Letterman]

People and stuff and. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt]

It's like a lifestyle.

[Zane]

Okay. Yeah.

[Heath]

So.

[Zane]

So this makes sense. Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

What does it say?

[Zane]

It says Quakers are a Christian group that arose in 17th century England, emphasizing a direct, personal relationship with God through an inner light. They are known for their practice of silent, unprogrammed worship where anyone can speak if they feel moved through, though some modern meanings also.

[Heath]

Okay, so it's a branch of Christianity.

[Annie Letterman]

There's. And there's two. But there's two different kinds, so they kind of hit on it. So there's programmed and unprogrammed. So I was brought up unprogrammed, which is just. It's hippie. You sit in silence, you feel moved to speak. You stand up, you speak, you do whatever you want. Like, there was one guy that would, like, talk about the Bible, but we never really. It wasn't pushed on us at all. And people would just stand up, people would fall asleep. There was this one guy that would snore all the time. Like, it was kind of like a fun, gangster little group. It was cool. And then I went to these Quaker youth retreats called. It was Middle School Friends. And then Young friends. And then it was just all these Quaker kids from around, and we would all hang out. It was fun. It was like little hippies hanging out. Everyone was dying their hair with Kool Aid. We could smoke cigarettes. We're, like, smoking cigs also drinking it. And, yeah, we're a little drug addicts. And then there was a bigger one that was called Youthquake. And it was once a year or once every few years, all of the youth groups would get to the. Yeah.

[Heath]

You're like, we're going to go, I'm.

[Annie Letterman]

Going to get fingered. But it was fun. I was like, like, oh, Quaker boys. And so we, like. We all went to that. But the. The programmed Quakers were there, too. And the program. Quakers were, like, really religious and homophobic and stuff. They were saying, like, that was the first time I heard God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. And we were like. We were just these, like, nerdy little, like. I mean, I was cool. I had, like, my nipples pierced. I was sick.

[Zane]

You're like, what the.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like, the.

[Matt]

Was that.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like, what the did you say about gay people? I'm an ally.

[Zane]

But that's crazy that they said that in the. In the school.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, it was. Well, it was like a. It was like we were at, like, a. It was like a dorm or something.

[Zane]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

On break or something. We're all.

[Heath]

They were trying to be chill.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. And it was just like. Yeah. But we were surprised because we didn't think it was going to be like that. So it was a meeting of the different types of Quakerism. And then me and my friend snuck out. We kept saying, we're gonna sneak out and go hook up with these guys. These other Quaker boys. Boys down the hall. So they had the adults sit in front of the door. Okay, Door. So we went. Stay out. So we tied our. Our sheets together, and we climbed out and we scaled the wall and snuck into the.

[Zane]

I honestly thought that was just in movies.

[Annie Letterman]

No, we really did it. We really did it.

[Matt]

That's amazing.

[Annie Letterman]

We really did it. We could have. If I died, that would have been wild. It was snowing. I could have just slid off, but they were gonna send me. Yeah.

[Zane]

He's like, that's actually the exact building that. Yeah, that's. That's cool. I actually want to do that.

[Annie Letterman]

Like.

[Matt]

Yeah, parachute.

[Zane]

Yeah, parachute.

[Matt]

I want to make it happen.

[Zane]

I feel like it's much harder.

[Annie Letterman]

These are quince sheets.

[Zane]

I feel like it's harder than you think to, like, up, go.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you remember I always Think about the rope in gym. I really enjoyed that experience. Do you remember the rope?

[Zane]

It's harder than it. It's hard. I've never done it.

[Matt]

We never had the rope either. We had a parachute but no rope.

[Annie Letterman]

The parachute was weird. What did that teach us?

[Heath]

Were you just vibes everybody under?

[Zane]

I was just creepy. It's Mag. This is weird.

[Annie Letterman]

Be in the secret place with your teacher, the other everybody. No, but the rope was like pretty dope not to rhyme, but it really was like.

[Zane]

I think that's AI because there's no way a kid reached that high.

[Annie Letterman]

No, we. I reached.

[Matt]

Really?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Was there a bell at the top? You had to like ding and then you just touched.

[Annie Letterman]

It was. That was holding everything to the ceiling by the way, that the reason they discontinued had to have been kids fell. There can't be another.

[Matt]

Of course. Yeah. No, that's.

[Annie Letterman]

Or it's like Ableist. There's like. There's a kid here with no hands.

[Zane]

And kids can do it easier because they're lighter, right? Because I could. I couldn't do that. I could never do.

[Annie Letterman]

I want to challenge. I want to challenge you to it.

[Zane]

I can't.

[Matt]

I think you're strong enough.

[Heath]

That rope.

[Annie Letterman]

It's your feet. Yeah, it's your feet.

[Matt]

But think about knotted. I. I like a knotted rope. So you can kind of. How many work your way up?

[Zane]

How many pull ups can you do?

[Annie Letterman]

But you're not using your feet. How many squats can you do?

[Heath]

You put the rope in between your feet.

[Zane]

Feet.

[Heath]

And then you could do it and you step up. Grab what.

[Matt]

I've also wanted to climb a coconut tree. Do you ever see like those coconut tree climbers and they're just like. I'm like, yes. Can I do that? I can do that.

[Zane]

It's like. Oh, see to Mulan the.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

[Matt]

They're just like.

[Heath]

We had these guys at my. My. My old house when I used to live here. They had these shoes that they would put these. It was like a metal plate underneath it that had spikes just going forward. And they'd strap it over their shoes.

[Annie Letterman]

Shoe.

[Heath]

And they would just stick it into the tree. And it was like probably a 35, 40 foot tree. And they would just dig in and climb the whole thing where the front.

[Zane]

Of the shoe with the.

[Heath]

Yes. Insane.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, it is. It's a mental thing because you have to be like, look, I'm gonna. This could be. But with those. I. I wonder if you're. You lost your grip with your hands. If you would Just be hanging.

[Zane]

Oh, you're. Yeah. I mean that. What, you tear your.

[Heath]

Look at those ankles. Oh, no.

[Annie Letterman]

I'd love to be able to climb a tree. I don't know if those years have passed.

[Heath]

I just want. I just. I want a pair of crampons, you know? That's all I want.

[Annie Letterman]

Is that what those are called?

[Matt]

Oh, Heath wants another thing.

[Heath]

Give me.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you a thing guy?

[Heath]

Yeah. Gadgets just.

[Annie Letterman]

I know when. When they started doing targeting ads, I was. I'm such a hoarder now. I'm like, damn.

[Matt]

What was your last, like, crazy purchase that you bought? That just doesn't make sense. But you're like, I have to have it.

[Annie Letterman]

Probably. I got the good one.

[Heath]

One?

[Annie Letterman]

No, I got the secret one. It was. And this little girl the other day, she saw it. Little kids, like, get the vapors when they see it. And I. And I'm such an. I'm like, got it on my first try. You can smell it.

[Zane]

Is that the. Is that the rainbow one?

[Annie Letterman]

That's like. Yeah, with the rainbow.

[Zane]

Sorry.

[Matt]

Our friend R1 is like. They have a different texture to them too. Like, oh, the rainbow te.

[Annie Letterman]

I got it. I got them for my nieces. And then the one I picked was.

[Zane]

I was like, oh, that sucks.

[Annie Letterman]

That sucks. You guys didn't get it.

[Zane]

I got. You see, I'm a big was wakugu guy. What's that one that I got? The wakuku.

[Annie Letterman]

You're like, me. You're like, I'm so obsessed with this thing. What's it called?

[Zane]

The wakukus are sick. Look at it. That's cool. That's cute.

[Annie Letterman]

Does that. Have they caught on? No, they're getting there because it is about. It's the gambling of it all.

[Zane]

But, like, I'm putting my money on wakukus.

[Heath]

Comes with a beanie and a necklace.

[Matt]

30 bucks.

[Heath]

I like the accessories.

[Zane]

Accessories are really cute.

[Annie Letterman]

Cute. Oh, the last. The last beanie I got. I signed up for a marathon in April, and I have done no training, and I think I'm not gonna do it. But I did get the beanie.

[Matt]

What is the marathon?

[Annie Letterman]

It's the end of April.

[Matt]

Okay, got it.

[Annie Letterman]

I signed up for it. I just felt, like, called to it.

[Zane]

The half marathon or the full marathon?

[Annie Letterman]

I. For the full marathon. Why didn't I just do a 5K first? I know. And I'm like, I don't want. And then my mom was like, you don't remember when you were little what happened to me? And I was like, what? What? And she's like, I walked a marathon. I was like, oh. I started having memories of my mom embarrassing us at the mall, like, walking. We're like, why is. I'm speed walking everywhere? And she walked a marathon. And she's like, my hip has been up the rest of my life.

[Zane]

Do you. Do you like running? No, Like, I'm. I hate it.

[Annie Letterman]

I hate it. But I keep thinking I bought a peloton at the end of the peloton craze. Like, right when the pandemic had ended, everyone was like, peloton, peloton. And I was like. I had been to two spin classes. I hated it. It. I was like, this is, like, painful. I can't walk for a week. I hate it. It's not fun. And then I got talked into it. Like, I finally was like, all right, I must be wrong. And I had this peloton just sitting there, and I put my clothes on it. I never use it. And I look at it and I go, trust yourself. Believe yourself. But I feel like I did that with the marathon where I was like, everyone else loves running. Runners high. Everyone's into it.

[Matt]

So you're gonna do it. You gotta. You gotta raise money too, as well.

[Annie Letterman]

I love raising money. I do like to raise money.

[Zane]

I've already decided.

[Matt]

I.

[Zane]

Like, two weeks ago. I'm doing. I'm gonna do the la. The half la.

[Annie Letterman]

I want to do the.

[Zane]

Maybe I'll just be, like, doable because.

[Annie Letterman]

It was only, like, 130 bucks. It's like. Like, it doesn't matter that way. It's just embarrassing to commit to something. I was so sure I was going to do it. I was like, I was on an airplane and I just went marathon. Like, it was like. I was like, marathon.

[Heath]

I stand up and say it.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like, everybody, God, wants me to do this marathon. And then I got, like, excited, but I went and bought, like, really expensive shoes, and I ran, like, twice. And when I say ran, I did, like, one minute running, four minutes walking, one minute running for, like, four minutes straight, you know? And my knees hurt for, like, a week. And I was like, it's practice.

[Zane]

You have to try. Like, there's a whole, like, 12 week.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you doing it?

[Zane]

I'm doing it. No, Nike has this, like, 12 week course thing you have to take.

[Annie Letterman]

Take. Yeah.

[Zane]

And like, to prep for it. Yeah. It's. I think it's on their side or on the app. Yeah. And like, every day you have to run, like, four miles, and then you go up to five, then you go up to six, go up to eight.

[Heath]

Where's the start with half a mile? Give me, I need to walk.

[Annie Letterman]

We gotta start by walking.

[Zane]

But the thing is that a lot of people, everybody can do half a mile. You have to like, it's the marathon. You have to like work your way up.

[Matt]

Yeah, they have a couch to marathon, like program as well.

[Heath]

That's what we need.

[Zane]

Oh, wow.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Oh, that's really good too.

[Matt]

But you need, need like four months or maybe more to do it.

[Heath]

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[Zane]

You want to do that? You want to do the half LA marathon?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. When is it?

[Zane]

Cuz I. I hate running. I'm doing it because I hate running.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I know. And I feel like everything I don't like, once I do it, I'm so happy and.

[Zane]

And just seeing how positive is in the end. Like, everyone's crying, celebrating, champagne popping. I'm seeing alcohol everywhere.

[Heath]

They just want that.

[Zane]

People with the signs. I'm like, I want to feel that when I cross the finish line.

[Matt]

You should do the full. Full. I think you're gonna do the half and you're gonna be like, I should have done the full.

[Zane]

No, I'm gonna do it because it works.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you just with them?

[Matt]

Oh, no, I know. Zane, I think you're gonna do the half and you're gonna go, I should have done.

[Annie Letterman]

Would you say he's in? Zane.

[Matt]

It'S really good. I mean, I'll be so proud of you either way. I'll be there at the finish line.

[Zane]

No, but I want to do both.

[Annie Letterman]

But no, but I do think it's like you work your way up. It's like, why did I just sign up for the marathon?

[Zane]

Exactly.

[Annie Letterman]

And then I even went into the running store and I was like, I signed up for a marathon. And people were like, yeah, we hear that a lot. You did. Oh, no one was like, this is awesome.

[Zane]

How many miles is the marathon again? 26. 26.

[Annie Letterman]

Have you done.

[Zane]

That's ridiculous.

[Annie Letterman]

God, no.

[Zane]

26 miles is ridiculous to run at once.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm telling you. I didn't know one minute was going to be challenging. The minute I tried and I went.

[Zane]

One minute is hard. You should film yourself doing, you know.

[Annie Letterman]

When your lungs get cold. Why are my lungs cold? It's hot out. I'm like, I've, like, not looking. I have pneumonia. I'm like, I don't get pneumonia, Annie.

[Zane]

You should do a whole video prepping for the marathon, like for three weeks, and then you run just a mile. You're like that.

[Annie Letterman]

I mean. But then when I was signing up for it, they're like, do you want any extras? And I was like, I was like, I won't get the bumper sticker, but I'll get the beanie. And now I have the beanie that like, driving.

[Zane]

I would never even drive that, you.

[Annie Letterman]

Know, and then I keep in my head being like, this is going to be easy. It's only like, like, no, it's like hours. It's not days.

[Matt]

Wait. That's so silly. Like, they make you go to the west side, and then you got to go back to Century City to finish.

[Zane]

I want. I want to end in Venice.

[Matt]

Yeah. End on the beach.

[Zane]

Yeah. That's.

[Heath]

I don't understand the runner's high. Everybody's like, oh, you get this. I've never. I've. I've tried it.

[Annie Letterman]

I've.

[Heath]

Or I've ran a lot. I've never once gotten a runner's high where I'm like, this is why we do it.

[Annie Letterman]

Never.

[Zane]

You know what the runner's high is? I think when your feet are not numb and you don't feel it anymore. I think that's when the highs. You don't feel it anymore. You don't feel your body.

[Matt]

No, but my dad's had it a lot. My dad, like, that's why he loved running, was. He liked getting to that.

[Annie Letterman]

But does he have up knees now.

[Matt]

And, like, not really. My dad ran a lot, and then he did a marathon. He's like, I'm not gonna, like, run that much, but he ran a lot.

[Annie Letterman]

The runner was like, this was a mistake. Yeah.

[Matt]

Now he bikes. He's a big cyclist, but that's his thing.

[Annie Letterman]

Does he have all the equipment?

[Matt]

Yeah. Pretty. But he's, like, kind of. He calls himself, like, an urban cyclist. He's not like the dudes with, like, the glasses and, like.

[Annie Letterman]

You like telling us your dad's black without saying it.

[Heath]

I want that cone helmet.

[Matt]

Yes. No, my dad's not like that, but.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I kind of like how, like. Because there's something about how dorky the cycling outfit is where it's like, you're committed, man. And it's always these guys that are, like, kind of want to get away from their kids.

[Zane]

It doesn't need to be that tough, Tight. Like, let's be. Let's be like, yes, for real.

[Annie Letterman]

Because the wind is gonna, like, be a parachute. Remember the parachute in gym?

[Heath]

That's right.

[Zane]

Yes.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

That's why they did the parachute.

[Zane]

It could be just a little looser. I feel like I would want to die if I had something so tight on me and I had to bike well for miles.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't know any swimmers. They, like, shave their hair and stuff. I don't know.

[Matt]

You were a swimmer, right?

[Annie Letterman]

I was. You read my Wikipedia.

[Matt]

I didn't. I didn't. You were training, though, for the Junior Olympics.

[Annie Letterman]

I did, and I got in a car accident.

[Matt]

I know. Thanks, Matt, for bringing up, but I know.

[Annie Letterman]

No, my Wikipedia Is like a. It's like a Dateline episode. My book is like. Then she went to.

[Zane]

Took her teacher to court documentary.

[Matt]

There was a dolphin training too. That's on the Wikipedia page.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Yeah. I did this thing called the. It was the. At the Koala Basin Marine mama lab. But all the dolphins died. Look up.

[Zane]

You guys mistreated them. That's why.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, you can't take them. It takes a really. It's really hard to get. Get the government to let you get a dolphin because it's so. But they. They got it. It was. University of Hawaii was doing this program and they got four dolphins and then they all ended up dying.

[Matt]

No.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, one died of, like, stomach cancer. And then I guess they tried to say the other ones were broken hearts.

[Matt]

And did that crush your love then for dolphin training? Did they.

[Annie Letterman]

I mean, I was not even. I kind of just randomly did it. It wasn't like a thing.

[Zane]

You weren't like a marine life.

[Annie Letterman]

I thought dolphins were, like, cool, but I wasn't like, drawing them. Well, I guess maybe I did draw dolphins.

[Matt]

I did draw some do.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm my trapper keeper.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

But I can up a dolphin. I know the dorsal.

[Zane]

I know you did you up four.

[Annie Letterman]

I. I killed them. I them to death. No, they do have big. There was one boy and he would. He had the very giant.

[Heath]

They bully each other with them.

[Annie Letterman]

They rape. Yeah, they rape.

[Zane]

They have giant penises.

[Heath]

Oh, and it comes out like this.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Heath]

And then they'll swim around to other male dolphins and attack them and like, poke at them.

[Zane]

Oh, we do that all the time.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. That's why you don't come in your room.

[Heath]

And I like.

[Zane]

Yeah, no, it's.

[Annie Letterman]

That's why you don't want this. The tight outfit. It's harder to poke.

[Zane]

See, that looks like it hurts. Oh, God, look at it. That's. That thing is sassy.

[Matt]

You know, cats penises are barbed.

[Zane]

What?

[Annie Letterman]

So you can't like their tongues.

[Heath]

That's why when they try to.

[Zane]

Yeah, I figured they can only go in.

[Annie Letterman]

You can't reverse over.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's.

[Heath]

Oh.

[Zane]

Oh, my God.

[Matt]

I forgot what it looked like.

[Zane]

What the.

[Matt]

That is.

[Zane]

Why would God do that? I know why them specifically?

[Matt]

I don't know why.

[Annie Letterman]

Why?

[Matt]

Because cats have, like, litters of, like, cats or they produce so much and so maybe it's like, maybe they'll.

[Zane]

Any other animal that has.

[Heath]

Ducks have. Ducks have a cork screw.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Oh, boy.

[Zane]

Oh, so, like, you go in and you can't pull it out.

[Annie Letterman]

I Think that. Yeah, they're spinners. You have to spin them out.

[Heath]

Look at that thing.

[Annie Letterman]

I mean, it's crazy.

[Heath]

Imagine if we had that noodle. Like, just like a. Yeah, it looks like a macaroni.

[Zane]

Oh, it looks like the chip. Those chips though, the David's chips, the waivers.

[Heath]

Insane.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. I don't know what the cat thing is. Maybe that's why cats are like, don't love us that much.

[Zane]

Have you ever eaten any exotic animals?

[Annie Letterman]

My mother in law is. Is Le Ocean. So there's the opportunity for sure. A who? A Lian. She's from. She's from Laos. So she's. They eat like crazy.

[Zane]

Oh, wait. So h. Is your half your family from Hawaii?

[Matt]

You're.

[Zane]

You're a part Hawaii wine.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, it's Laos.

[Zane]

That's like Thailand Lao. No, Wait, what I thought.

[Annie Letterman]

You're so funny. Same.

[Zane]

You're fun because you went to the University of Hawaii. So in my head, like, obviously she went.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I didn't go to the University of Hawaii. I just did a thing with them last.

[Zane]

I never heard of. Never heard of that country.

[Matt]

It's on the crossword a lot.

[Zane]

Wow.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Laos is a. Yeah.

[Zane]

That's probably because I have to google that one. That is so funny to cheat on that one. Oh, wow. So you're. You're half Laotian?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, my mother in law. My family is Asian.

[Zane]

Wait, that's kind of.

[Annie Letterman]

My in laws are. Yeah.

[Zane]

So you're not like white?

[Annie Letterman]

No, I'm mother in law.

[Matt]

Mother in law.

[Zane]

No, it doesn't matter. Like when you're in the family, you are not.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. I claim Asian.

[Heath]

I. I claim to be.

[Zane]

You are white passing. Yeah, you're white pass passing. It's good.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I'm a white passing Asian. You're correct. No. So yeah, he's h. My fiance's half Asian and then. But his aunts are like. I mean there's just like this, this gaggle of crazy old Asian ladies in my life that are so. They're so hilarious. And the food is just unbelievable. I'm very well fed.

[Matt]

Have you gone to visit?

[Annie Letterman]

No, they don't. They haven't been back since.

[Zane]

They don't excite me.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, they're like, get out, whitey. No, they, they came over when they were young. Young. His grandfather, my fiance's grandfather, was a spy for the Americans during the war. And so they got sponsored and they had. They were refugees.

[Zane]

Wow.

[Annie Letterman]

There's a bunch of. It's like one of the most Bomb per capita places in the world. Because period.

[Heath]

Wow.

[Annie Letterman]

Because they were dropping after the war. They were. They had. Didn't want to take the. The United States didn't want to take the bombs back. So they just dropped all these mines.

[Matt]

Oh yeah. Oh, there's some mines. Landmines everywhere.

[Annie Letterman]

My. My mother in law got me a. A bracelet that's made out of one of. It's like a.

[Heath]

That's sick.

[Annie Letterman]

A program that they have out there. They sell these bracelets because they have to go out and they have to ignite all the bombs. Isn't that crazy?

[Zane]

They got.

[Annie Letterman]

They got. Oh my God.

[Heath]

So this was. This was after the Vietnam War.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, it was right after they were bringing over and so there's tons of them there and really hard to find.

[Matt]

They don't know what is it.

[Annie Letterman]

The silent war.

[Heath]

They're still all over the place that haven't been discovered yet. That are.

[Annie Letterman]

So they go and they. They go and they ignite them. I kind of want to do my wedding there and have them. Like when we say I do they light a bomb.

[Zane]

Guys, check this out. They' bombing rate. Obama's dropped approximately every eight minutes, 24 hours a day for nine years.

[Annie Letterman]

Yes, but.

[Heath]

But we're the good guys.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. And Obama I think was the only one which ironic. His name was. Obama was the only one that even acknowledged and apologized.

[Zane]

Oh, that's good.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. They just don't talk about it.

[Matt]

Who was behind at nine years. It's like, keep doing it. Let's do it again. Again.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. Look at that little place.

[Zane]

Oh, that's crazy. But I have said that we like go to war. A tomb is so immature.

[Heath]

2 million tons.

[Annie Letterman]

I know.

[Heath]

That is disgusting.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. It's so dark. There's a lot of missing limbs out there.

[Zane]

Imagine like creating that. That's crazy.

[Heath]

It's worse than being the dropper, I guess.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Or.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh my God. But you have to believe. You have to like believe so badly you're doing something.

[Heath]

I just. I just saw this video. It was World War II pilots, they would put grenades in Mason jars. So they would pull the paper pin, set it down in there so that it wouldn't be activated yet. And then when they would fly over, they would drop the Mason jar so it would shatter and then it would.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh man.

[Heath]

That's crazy.

[Annie Letterman]

I was just watching. Do you remember. Did you guys watch the Reno 911 movie?

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you remember when the rock came in with the. It's like. I just. Someone just showed me that scene. I forgot about it. But he comes in and he's a SWAT team guy, the Rock. And he's like showing them and he pulls the pin and then he's in it for like 10 sec. He's like barely in it. Like dies immediately. It's so funny.

[Zane]

I. I do regret never watching that show.

[Heath]

Reno911 I see are amazing.

[Matt]

It was like always on Comedy Central. I love.

[Annie Letterman]

They played it all the time.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Like, I need to go back and watch it.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. There needs to be more shows like that that are just coming of lightly scripted.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Curb your enthusiasm stuff. I think that's so funny coming off.

[Matt]

It was so ahead of its time too. What was this whole comedy group called? Weren't they like a sketch comedy group? The State?

[Annie Letterman]

Yes.

[Zane]

Oh, wait. Oh, I didn't know they were a comedy group that.

[Annie Letterman]

But I guess you can't really. Because TV's not really doing that. It's not really TV. TV's not really much of a thing anymore.

[Matt]

No.

[Annie Letterman]

How.

[Matt]

Stand up. How's it going? Are you like on tour or anything right now? For always. Do you love traveling? Do you like.

[Annie Letterman]

I do like it. It's hard. It's. It's hard just because you're tired. But it's so fun. It's so cool to go everywhere.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

It's just really fun to meet my fans. It's cool to see different places and people and. And it's just really fun because you're just exchanging energy. It's fun. I do meet and greets afterwards. It's really, really fun.

[Matt]

Where do. What's your process like for your own material? Are you like. Do you ever make time for yourself to sit down and write stuff? Are you just like voice noting stuff and when an idea.

[Annie Letterman]

I wish I. I wish I was. I always try. Never really works. But I kind of get struck by lightning with an idea and then I can. I'll just have like a little kernel of something. And then a lot of times I just write on stage and stuff. But it's not. I mean, it's like, I don't know. I just want to make people be stupid and make people laugh. I'm not like the craft. I have like a quill get ready for this important material. I'm changing the world over here. But it's just like, I don't know, it's just fun. Just so fun.

[Zane]

Are you gonna. Because I know you're saying, I don't know if it was a joke or not, but like, oh, I'm gonna make a special. But like are like, oh, I've been.

[Annie Letterman]

Making a special for 10 years. I. I've been cleaning my house for six years. I've been making special for 10 years.

[Zane]

How much time do you have ready?

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, hour. I have hours of material.

[Zane]

Oh.

[Annie Letterman]

So let's just.

[Zane]

Why don't you put it out there?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, cuz first it was like I was scared. It was like my own self sabotage and I was like, oh, I can't. And then it was just like it. The funding that has to go into a special. So if you were going to get a special on like a streamer or something on Netflix or Hulu or whatever, they now want you to film it and then they'll give you a licensing fee for it possibly. But they're almost the same price. So you have to like, you're like, okay to break even. I got to get on one of these streamers and stuff. And then doing it on YouTube's like, okay. But I feel like it's not really.

[Zane]

That's what it was Sal. Because Sal did it on YouTube and apparently he did really well. Where I think if it does Netflix took it or which network took it streaming one of them took it.

[Annie Letterman]

I love Sal. Isn't Sal's amazing.

[Zane]

He's so fun. But yeah, that he did it on YouTube and then he went on every podcast. They all push people to watch his special. That did really well. And then they saw that.

[Annie Letterman]

Right. It's kind of like either like it really just depends because it could be the right thing. And I think a couple years ago doing it on YouTube would completely like blow your career up. But yeah, it just depends on if it gets.

[Matt]

Do you record your sets and then review how you did or do you just make mental notes of like, oh, maybe I need to work on that.

[Annie Letterman]

Like I have recorded every set I've ever done. I've listened to two or three.

[Heath]

You can't watch it back.

[Zane]

Right.

[Annie Letterman]

I've started to do it now and it's so helpful. It's so funny. I haven't done it. Everything I resist is exactly the thing I'm supposed to be doing. It's so crazy. We gotta run this marathon.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I mean it really is like, it is actually crazy. It's like the exact thing I need to do. So yeah, I started, I started doing a thing. I asked this comic, Dustin Ubaro, because he always has new really strong material. I was like, what do you. What's your writing process? And he goes, I'll just listen To a comic I like, I'll just watch, like, 10 minutes of their special, and then I'll just think about my jokes. And I was like, huh? Because I kind of don't watch people's stuff that much because I don't want to. I never want to absorb someone else's cadence or anything like that.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

But I don't. I've always just been exactly myself, so I don't even think I'm really susceptible to that. Maybe I just was. Had comedy fatigue and didn't really want to watch comedy. But once he said that, I was like, oh. And I would start, like, putting on old Stanhope specials and Louis specials and just like, all these different specials. And you're like, oh, you sort of realize how much more you could be doing in a joke.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, oh, I opened for Louie Movie, like, six months ago, and I was watching a set like, oh. Like, I'm like, just doing one joke about a topic. I could be just doing, like, yeah. So it's not that you're taking from them, but you're sort of inspired by their being so prolific. So then you're like, oh, okay, I can do that too. So that's really helpful. And then I go on these walks where I just start thinking about stuff. And then you write a bunch of stuff down. And I perform almost every night.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Do you have a mic in your house?

[Annie Letterman]

House?

[Matt]

Like, just like, wait, wait, wait. That's so funny. Or, wait, that's if I had a.

[Annie Letterman]

Mic in my house.

[Matt]

Hey, is this thing all right, like, just to.

[Zane]

Do you practice, like, at home in front of your fiance?

[Annie Letterman]

No, no, no. I. No, I'll. Sometimes I just sort of, like, say it in my head. I try to get the beats down, and then I just try it on stage, and then that's the best way.

[Zane]

Oh, that's your. Like. Like your practice.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm so in the moment on stage, like, I don't give a If things don't work. I'm like, that'll be funny if it doesn't work.

[Matt]

Do you have a favorite place you like to go workshop the best?

[Annie Letterman]

And I used to be only love the or for trying stuff out, which is the smaller room in the. In the comic store. But I love the main room. I just started open miking the main room ones because the main room's like the big. It's the big room with all the lights and stuff. So I used to get so scared, and I would. And this is like, you know, 15 years ago when I first got Passed. But I would be scared to perform in the main room.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And then I just had to be like. Treat it, like, almost in a way. Like, just go in there and, like, do all new stuff and just don't even worry. And then I kind of build up a. Yeah. So now I love. I love it in there. It's really fun.

[Zane]

Would you say all the. Would you say you posted? Because I see your clips a lot. I've been seeing a lot lately. Your clips just pop.

[Annie Letterman]

Good. I hope more people said algorithm and.

[Zane]

Just feed in general. Do you think that's been helping just bring more people to your shows?

[Annie Letterman]

I think so. It's hard because, you know, you. I do. I do do crowd work. I love doing crowd work because I think it's like uniting the room. It's like in the moment, we're all together. We're all making these jokes together. Other. But I have so many written jokes and I. I like my writing. I like my jokes. But people think you're just doing. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but it's. You know, some people don't want to see crowd work, so they think you're just a crowd or comic. You're like, no, I'm gonna put all my jokes into a special.

[Zane]

I love crowd work because to me, that's like that. It's so authentic. You didn't sit at home and try to perfect it like you're just doing.

[Annie Letterman]

Because there is something that's disingenuous about being like, the other day.

[Zane]

Exactly. No, I, I. Every time someone's doing crowd work on my feed, I always walk. Watch it because it's like, in the moment, it's not playing. That's what I think.

[Heath]

There's one thing about being slick and, like, being funny and having, like, good comebacks and then just like, completely being, like, not an ass.

[Annie Letterman]

Sometimes you'll see ones that, like, go viral and you're like, where? And everyone's laughing.

[Matt]

You're not like, it's like the joke in the room with us.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. And you're like, I trust that everyone thinks this is funny there. But I'm like, where is this?

[Heath]

That's. Yeah. I feel like it's like super, super hit or miss.

[Zane]

Sometimes I feel like it's so, like, there's some. Where I'm just like, it's two per. No, no. Seven that up.

[Heath]

Oh, I thought you say Saturday.

[Zane]

Sometimes it's too perfect.

[Heath]

Planted hecklers.

[Annie Letterman]

But let me tell you, Zane, there's something where I literally feel like There's a channel from above. Sometimes I'm just like, talk to that guy. And it will be something so crazy that he says, and it'll be. So I was talking to this one guy and this clip didn't go viral. And it's. Sometimes I'm like, I just have to re edit them because I'm like, this was so crazy when it happened, but there was a guy in the front row, and I was asking him, I was like, when's the last time you had blue balls? He's like, last night, week. I was like, really? And he's like, yeah. And then I was like, well, tell me about. He was like, well, I was having phone sex. And I was like, wait, how could you possibly get blue balls if you're the one jerking yourself off? And it just kept unfolding and unfolding. I, like, could not believe he said that. I was like, wait, what? And there's those moments where people just almost like, hang themselves with these jokes.

[Zane]

And what, like, what did he say in the end?

[Annie Letterman]

Like, what was like, well, like, you know, the other girl. I. I can't remember exactly how it ended, but it was just that moment when he said that. I was like, wow.

[Zane]

It's like, did they. Did they.

[Annie Letterman]

You're in control way, but you're in control. I'm like, how would it be?

[Heath]

I'm like, are you like, yeah, she stopped talking.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. I'm like, even if she hung up, you're still, like, finished.

[Zane]

But also, it takes a type of. It's. It takes a type of person to sit in the front at a comedy.

[Annie Letterman]

And I like it, too. I like when people are into it. And I'm good at poking. I like to. I always think of my whole career, my whole personality is like, I'm poking the shadow. Kind of like the things people don't want to talk about. I'm kind of like, yeah, how much do you really. Because if we talk about it, it's probably gonna be funny, and then we won't be upset about it anymore. So it's, like, fun to kind of, like, find the people. Like, if there's like, a lesbian couple in the front.

[Matt]

I hate it. I hate getting the timing of that.

[Annie Letterman]

See what I'm saying? He's like, I hate it.

[Matt]

I hate, though, when I'm at, like, a standup comedy show and you get targeted by, like, the comic.

[Annie Letterman]

But I would know. But I would be able to kind of tell. Wait, the socks matching the sweaters every time. Oh, my God.

[Zane]

It was.

[Annie Letterman]

That's Crazy.

[Zane]

You just gave Matt try.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, right.

[Matt]

Like, oh, I got a comedy show like this. Like. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't know. He's, like, wearing a little thong with him. But so, but. But I would probably know. But where are you sitting?

[Matt]

I guess the times it's happened, like, in the front, but, like, I know you're asking for it.

[Zane]

Yeah, kind of.

[Matt]

But I feel like last time it was like the Haha Club, but I feel like we're just like a table right there. It's never.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, you're tall, too.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I probably would have found you.

[Matt]

I haven't been to a show in a while, though. Right by the improv.

[Zane]

I think I've only been to, I think three total. And the. The third one was yours.

[Annie Letterman]

Yes.

[Zane]

I need to go.

[Annie Letterman]

It was like. It was so good. I never went back.

[Zane]

Yeah, I don't want to see anybody.

[Annie Letterman]

Six years ago come to my next. Anyone in Friends.

[Zane]

I just saw one.

[Heath]

What is that?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, this one's coming out after it, but it'll be on the 18th.

[Zane]

Do we have sit in the front? No, but if we sit in the front, are you going to, like, make. Are you to, like.

[Annie Letterman]

I wouldn't give you the satisfaction.

[Matt]

How is the.

[Annie Letterman]

Want it. Too bad.

[Matt]

How is the female standup comedy, like, seen as, like, a circle? Is it clicky? Is it really welcoming? Are you guys supportive of one another? Like, I don't know.

[Annie Letterman]

I think it's kind of, like, depends on who it is. I mean, it's like. Like, I have a lot of female comedian friends, and then, you know, there's female comedians that I'm not friends with and kind of just normal.

[Matt]

Do you have to make time to, like, socialize with other comedians? Like, when you. No, you don't.

[Annie Letterman]

We're all. It's like the. Our whole job is just. Just like hanging out in a green room and going on stage. We're all always hanging out all the time.

[Matt]

Okay. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

That's why it's like, a lot of, like, in. In comedy beefings going on, and I'm like, oh, you guys are making the green rooms weird. You guys are making the green rooms weird as hell.

[Matt]

Do you ever get to yourself, like, involved in, like, drama or wasn't there?

[Annie Letterman]

I have been. I've totally been involved in drama and totally not on purpose. And then I'm in it, and it was crazy. And it's weird because it's, like, funny because you're. You're creating meme right on state.

[Zane]

Like, how.

[Annie Letterman]

How's John on podcasts? It's always on podcast. It's always podcast because it's. You know, you just say something, you think you're being slick, and no one's gonna know who you're talking about. And then everyone knows, and you're like.

[Zane]

Oh, I just feel like anytime, like, in my head, like, any comedian that ever says anything, if it's about you, in my head, a joke, like, there's. You could say anything. It's just like, oh, that's a joke.

[Annie Letterman]

That's what you hope. Yeah. I always try to check myself. I try to not have a big, like, be too serious about everything, but it's hard. I mean, you get.

[Matt]

What about that big comedy festival that happened? Was it in Saudi Arabia that, like, there was. Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

I was like, you're so happy you weren't invited. You're like, I got to sit on the sidelines of that one. I'm so uneducated with things, too. I'm like, wait, is that bad? The thing is, like, it's bad. Okay.

[Matt]

Do you do corporate gifts gigs? Do you ever get, like, asked to go stand up?

[Annie Letterman]

I did a weird corporate gig recently that I found out I didn't get paid enough for, but I was like, oh, yeah, this will be fine. It's just, like, one show. And then I told my friend. He's like, that's how you got paid.

[Zane]

And I was like, oh, it was. It was an experience.

[Annie Letterman]

But you're basically getting. You're basically getting paid to, like, be in a weird situation.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't know. I haven't heard many stories of these corporates.

[Heath]

Like, so it's just, like, a company that just wants to have fun with their.

[Annie Letterman]

I got called in by this guy to do a stag party at a. A golf course for these, like, old men.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And they all are, like, friends with, like, Trump and, like, own, like, like, super cuts. Like, it was like, like, so do.

[Zane]

You have to try to cater or you just say, so?

[Annie Letterman]

The guy that hired me really wanted me to roast these people, so I was basically, like, taking his information, trying to write jokes and stuff. But in the end, it was weird because they were just like, he. You know, Because I didn't know. There were, like, moments that were really funny, but it was like, it's weird to get roasted by someone who doesn't know you. Yeah. You know, like, the roasts back in the day were so good, and the. The Tom Brady one, too, was good because a lot of the people do know each other.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

It's funny when it's coming from like, you're my friend. I know all the.

[Zane]

The boss was just trying to. He thought this was a good idea. And then after he saw nobody and he's like, oh, okay.

[Annie Letterman]

He was like. He's like, Half the people really liked you.

[Heath]

I don't.

[Annie Letterman]

He was like, I have some constructive criticism. And I was like, you know, block.

[Zane]

No, that is good. Because you're performing in front of people, a crowd that, like, doesn't even maybe doesn't know you. Or of course, like, it's so.

[Annie Letterman]

It's like, thank God the people that worked there knew me. So I had some moments where the guys saw me get reckoned. Because it's like, sometimes you just want to be like, I'm a thing, okay? Like, people know who I am.

[Zane]

Like, look at my Tik Tok clips.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, look. Look at that. Look at my clips. It was weird. It was definitely very weird. And you have to be very. A lot of times they want you to be clean.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Which. It's so hard when someone tells me to explain clean. It's like, I just want to be so dirty.

[Matt]

It's like my brain wants to be like, oh, I love the Nickelback shirt.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, but that's great.

[Matt]

I just noticed that. Oh, my God.

[Annie Letterman]

It's cool, right? It's Meth Syndicate, but they're. Now they're called. He had to change his name to something. But if you look at Meth Syndicate, you can find him. But he had. Because he kept getting in trouble for having meth in his name.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

But I have another shirt that has three shrimps, but they look like sixes shrimp.

[Zane]

Oh, wait, like, that's. You can't have meth in your.

[Annie Letterman]

They keep flagging it.

[Matt]

Yeah, they probably flag it.

[Annie Letterman]

But he does really funny shirts. Yeah.

[Zane]

So now it's Microwave. What's that?

[Annie Letterman]

It's Microwave.

[Matt]

Rick Moran.

[Annie Letterman]

It's hilarious.

[Matt]

Rick Moranis is coming back.

[Zane]

Is that oj? Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Isn't that so funny?

[Matt]

Be the same birthday.

[Heath]

So he just makes wild T shirts.

[Matt]

Yeah, he just makes Mambo Number five rules.

[Annie Letterman]

I went to. I went to.

[Zane]

Reminds me of.

[Annie Letterman]

Daddy yanked the Viagra Boys concert with him.

[Matt]

Viagra Boys.

[Annie Letterman]

So good.

[Matt]

Yeah. People are loving.

[Annie Letterman]

It was such a good concert.

[Matt]

German. What are they, the Swedish?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, they're from Sweden.

[Matt]

Yeah, that's what they are.

[Annie Letterman]

But so we went to the show, and my friend Eric, who does Mess Syndicate, he was recognized more than me.

[Heath]

Whoa.

[Annie Letterman]

As a T shirt man. He's a famous T shirt man. Is that incredible?

[Matt]

That Is dope.

[Annie Letterman]

It was really cool. Cool.

[Matt]

Are the shirts good quality too?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, they're nice. They're good.

[Matt]

Cool.

[Annie Letterman]

And he prints them out fast and.

[Zane]

Oh, that's a shirt.

[Annie Letterman]

And the 666 one is so funny.

[Zane]

Wait, I want this 16. The 669 one?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, the 666 one brings heat.

[Zane]

It does.

[Annie Letterman]

People get mad.

[Zane]

Yeah. I don't want anybody to get mad at me, so I'll just do the 6 9.

[Annie Letterman]

They get so mad.

[Zane]

Who don't like the. The devil.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, it's like, it's shrimp.

[Zane]

Do you believe. Do you believe in demons?

[Annie Letterman]

No. No.

[Zane]

No.

[Annie Letterman]

Maybe. I don't think so.

[Zane]

Damn.

[Matt]

Wow.

[Annie Letterman]

I've met a few.

[Zane]

How was it from last guest to this?

[Annie Letterman]

I've met a few. My next merch drop, he's doing with me.

[Zane]

Oh, really?

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Zane]

What is it?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, I want to do. Remember when Fabio was on the Got hit by the bird?

[Matt]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm. I'm photoshopping myself in the thing with him like this.

[Matt]

Oh, really?

[Annie Letterman]

Next to him. And then I want to just put myself in, like, moments like that. It's just me there.

[Zane]

That's good.

[Matt]

That Fabio moment of him getting hit.

[Annie Letterman]

By the best thing that ever happened. Yes.

[Matt]

It's like the universe just like made this moment happen. You have the most beautiful man with these gorgeous women in front of a roller coaster.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Can I've seen like, a picture of it? But I want to see the video.

[Matt]

Yeah. He was riding this roller coaster that.

[Heath]

It was also filmed.

[Matt]

Big publicity moment and everything. And it just. They caught it on camera and I don't think you ever. He has blood all his nose.

[Zane]

Oh, so you didn't see it?

[Annie Letterman]

Damn, I want to be that girl.

[Zane]

Dude, he looks so pissed.

[Annie Letterman]

The girl next to him was like.

[Heath]

I thought there was a video of Impact.

[Matt]

No, I don't think there is one impact.

[Zane]

It's just like, well, if you want one of impact, we can make it on Sora.

[Heath]

True.

[Matt]

I see him at the gym sometime. Yeah. Fabio.

[Zane]

Are you serious?

[Annie Letterman]

He's really funny. Like, he'll, like, dip women and take pictures of them a lot. Like, I think there's a lot of pictures of him. Like, someone's like, can I get a picture with it? He'll like, yeah.

[Matt]

He was on all the romance like, covers.

[Annie Letterman]

But would that be funny if I'm next to him? Just like, that's great.

[Matt]

You have to.

[Heath]

He kind of reminds me of the Jeremy fragrance.

[Matt]

Oh, yes.

[Zane]

Do you know who Jeremy fragrance is? Oh, my God.

[Matt]

Like the Cologne guy on Tick Tock who's just like.

[Heath]

He is something.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, no, he's definitely trying to be.

[Zane]

You have to. You have to watch his videos, dude.

[Heath]

And all of the videos I see of him are just people exposing his snaps to them. And he is. He is just freak. So out of touch.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Heath]

And the things he says. I'm just like, this is crazy that this is a real person.

[Matt]

I'm impressed that he can, like, smell people and know exactly what they're wearing, too.

[Zane]

Yeah, that's pretty.

[Annie Letterman]

That's.

[Zane]

I mean, that's a. That's a talent.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't really want to be smelled, though.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't like the idea of some.

[Matt]

Man just coming up and Smith and.

[Annie Letterman]

Knowing things about me.

[Zane]

I guess that is weird. Like, if you know what a girl's wearing, it could be. That's not sexy.

[Matt]

Do you like scents? You like candles?

[Annie Letterman]

I do.

[Heath]

Guys, we asked the best questions.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. Is this, like, the worst episode you've ever had? You just asked me if I. Of candles. Yeah, like a scented candle. I'm bad at blowing them out, though. I'm, like, scared to have candles. I don't feel responsible enough.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah, I won't light them.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, it was.

[Matt]

Oh, it was my vagina.

[Zane]

Gwyneth Paltrow.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Which is crazy.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Not the person you would expect.

[Annie Letterman]

I know.

[Matt]

Vagina candle.

[Annie Letterman]

I had it. So let us see.

[Zane]

You could tell she wanted to be quirky. She wanted to be fun.

[Matt]

Smells like my vagina. Vagina.

[Zane]

It smells like. Oh, it doesn't smell. It's my vagina.

[Matt]

Yeah. Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina.

[Zane]

So how did they do that, do you think? They, like, got a cotton swab and, like, it must have, like, used that DNA.

[Heath]

That was the original Sydney Sweeney soap bar.

[Zane]

That was.

[Matt]

It was Sydney Sweeney's open. Kind of just dropping the ball in.

[Annie Letterman]

Weird.

[Zane]

Yeah. She hasn't been making the best.

[Annie Letterman]

It's so crazy to be with Scooter Braun right now.

[Matt]

Yes. Wait, what happened? She's now dating Scooter Braun.

[Annie Letterman]

Very few, like, hated people in Hollywood, like, truly, like, right now, targeted, and she just is with the most hated guy.

[Matt]

Right. And, like, you're not winning over anybody by dating him.

[Heath]

Or do you go, you're the most hated girl right now, and you just. I guess I gotta go. I gotta go with the most hated guy.

[Matt]

Right?

[Heath]

Like, I don't know.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, also, do we think she has. Do we think how much, like, longevity is her career gonna have?

[Matt]

Have Good question. I mean, she's had good roles, but. But I don't know. I don't think she's, like. She's incredible. She's not Emma Stone. Jennifer Lawrence. No, that level, she's not, but she's not that cool.

[Annie Letterman]

She's, like, cute and has big tits.

[Zane]

Movies, they want her in her. Their. I mean, she's in so many movies.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, ugly roles, which is fun.

[Matt]

Yeah. Did you ever see Liberty? Was that the name of the movie.

[Annie Letterman]

When she was in. When she was the cop or.

[Matt]

She was a girl. She was a girl who leaked information and, like, it's the whole interrogation. Yeah, but she kind of was a little mid in it. I felt like.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. Like, I. I don't know if I've even seen her eyes.

[Matt]

I don't have to stop. We can't.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't want to be rude to her, but I've never seen her face. I've never looked at her face. I have no clue if she's pretty or not, to be honest.

[Heath]

Jared, what are we playing here?

[Zane]

The Internet went out, so I can't believe. I can't look anything up.

[Annie Letterman]

Even the Internet's like, we can't. I know. She's obviously, like, so. Well, I was. When. When what's his name started. When the coach. What's his name started dating that young. His young girlfriend.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Zane]

Oh, Bill Belich.

[Annie Letterman]

Bill Belich. I was like, she's not that. I just saw one picture of it. I was squinting a little bit, you know, and I was like, oh, she's not that hot. And I said that. And then I kept being, like, sent picture, and I was like, oh, this girl's so hot. Like, such a psycho being. Like, she's fine.

[Zane]

She's fine.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, sometimes you just don't get the right angle on someone, and then you're like, oh, wait. Okay.

[Zane]

That's why I try not to take characters of yourself. Yeah. It's just angles, you know, you get the bad angle. You just like, that's. Yeah. It's just not. Not there.

[Annie Letterman]

You gotta know your angles.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And I said when we weren't recording that. It's funny that they're. It's their, like, wives. And then your mom. I know. I met your mom.

[Zane]

You did?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, at Jason's party.

[Zane]

You did?

[Annie Letterman]

I met your mom. Oh, she's lovely.

[Zane]

I forgot that I saw you.

[Annie Letterman]

Your mom's cool. I love Florida. I just like a. Florida?

[Matt]

Yeah, let's go.

[Annie Letterman]

Florida.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Philly. So Florida and Philly are very similar.

[Zane]

Yeah. I Kind of geeked out when I saw you there. I was like, oh my God. I was like, like fangirl. Because I remember that one show. And I was like, oh, my God, that's her. Should I say hi? I was like, nah, that's not cool anymore.

[Annie Letterman]

Six years later, we finally connected. Yeah. I was like, she's not. And I was like, okay, that dress came out. I was like, all right.

[Matt]

What is the age difference? Like third? At least 30 years, probably 30. Oh, boy. 40.

[Annie Letterman]

I think 70. And she's like 25 or something.

[Zane]

All right. I mean, that will is probably looking real nice though. I mean, let's.

[Matt]

Wow.

[Annie Letterman]

Get it. Girl cares if you can do it. I've never been able to.

[Matt]

His children have to be like, older than her.

[Heath]

A 50 year age difference is pretty wild.

[Annie Letterman]

Was he also a football player before he was a coach? Probably around of the brain.

[Matt]

What's your favorite sport?

[Annie Letterman]

My favorite sport. Do you play pickleball?

[Matt]

I can play, but I'm not pickleball. Crazy. Like some people.

[Annie Letterman]

I mean, I watched the World Series. That was fun.

[Zane]

You watched the World Series, but can you play the World.

[Annie Letterman]

I played. I played. I was on the boys baseball team when I was a kid.

[Matt]

Oh, really?

[Heath]

Baseball is one of those sports that's way more fun to play play than it is to watch.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I mean, that last game though, was crazy. I. I was. I didn't even mean to watch it. I was. I was at a. One of those crab restaurants. I was like eating crab legs and it was on the tv and I was like, wait, what? I got so drawn into the last.

[Zane]

Was it the Dodgers game?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, the last one. I saw the whole thing.

[Zane]

I'm not even watching. I didn't even know there's a. I.

[Annie Letterman]

Didn'T care at all. And then I got sucked into it. And then I was like, we have to watch the rest of this game.

[Matt]

I was so embarrassed though. I embarrassed myself so bad at that party because I thought, oh, the. The team we were playing, they. If they win this, they win the World Series. But if we win, there's still another game.

[Zane]

The Dodger Dodgers.

[Matt]

Yes. Like, I didn't real until the end. I'm like, so we have another game. Like, they just won. And I was like, I don't know. Everyone at the party was like, dude, that's all right. Stop drinking.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, it's funny to be. Sometimes it's funny to be dumb.

[Matt]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

You get so into. You get. If you get too into sports, it's like crazy. I'm like, my heart's beating.

[Matt]

You can ruin your day if your team doesn't win.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, I do like. Like sports betting, so that's fun.

[Matt]

Oh, you gamble?

[Annie Letterman]

I like to gamble. I enjoy watching my fiance gamble.

[Matt]

Do you ever. What about casinos? Like playing blackjack poker?

[Annie Letterman]

I'm a slot slut.

[Matt]

Oh, what's your favorite slot?

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, there's a lot. It's always. It's always. Do you know, I never win. I always get wrecked.

[Zane]

But do you know what you're doing on those slots? Or you just.

[Annie Letterman]

There's no doing. What are you talking about? There's no, like, there's. There's a psych. Like a psychotic thought where you're like, I know. Know what I'm doing. But we do have kind of a plan, like, to not get super wrecked. But we love watching my fiance and I always watch Vegas Matt. Have you ever seen his YouTube channel? Yeah, he's the best. And we became friends with it. So I'll go out and I'll gamble with him.

[Matt]

Oh, no. He must be nervous.

[Heath]

It's addicting.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Heath]

He drops so much money like it's.

[Annie Letterman]

Nothing, but it doesn't affect him. He's like. He's unaffected.

[Heath]

He does. Like, what, like thousand dollar slot pulls?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, he'll do different.

[Heath]

Each pull a thousand thousand bucks.

[Matt]

Oh, boy.

[Heath]

You're watching, like, I cannot believe this.

[Zane]

But then. But then he makes money.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Matt]

He's making so much money out of that.

[Annie Letterman]

He has. He has money from real estate, and he was in sales for a long time. He's so good. He's the best.

[Matt]

My favorite slots. The fishbowl one, the fishes. Because right when they're about to bust, odds are high.

[Zane]

So you have to wait till they're, like, real big.

[Matt]

Yeah, you got to see, like, multiple.

[Annie Letterman]

Cracks, but then sometimes you'll just be there forever, and it never busts.

[Heath]

And you're like, I'm hooked on the. The Willy Wonka one.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, that one's fun.

[Matt]

Oh, Willy Wonka. Wizard of Oz.

[Heath]

Gets me going.

[Matt]

I love more chili sombrero and, like, the peppers.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, wow. Sometimes they go cold. Like, they'll be a really good one, and then it just stops hitting. There was the Little Shop of Horrors. For a while, I was obsessed with Little Shop.

[Matt]

Little Shop.

[Annie Letterman]

And you got to turn it. Vegas Mat always says it's the win ability. You turn it up high, you got to turn up the win ability. Just, like, blasting all out. Yeah, exactly. Wait, what?

[Matt]

Little Shop of Horrors. It's a musical. Rick Moranis Steve Martin.

[Zane]

No. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I like Zayn's brain.

[Zane]

Yeah. No, it's not. I know very few things that I really care about, and that's all I know.

[Annie Letterman]

What do you care about?

[Zane]

I care about Game of Thrones. What do I care about?

[Annie Letterman]

Isn't it so funny when people ask you such a broad question?

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

You know, what's your favorite question?

[Zane]

Is that. That, like, what do you care about? And don't say comedy. Don't say stand up.

[Annie Letterman]

I don't care about stand up. What am I, a loser?

[Matt]

Do you have hobbies?

[Annie Letterman]

I'm kind of a. I'm like a. I'm like a spiritual.

[Matt]

I like meditating.

[Heath]

I can't get into. Yeah, I want to get into it. I just haven't hit that moment.

[Annie Letterman]

You know what I think it is? It's because, again, our egos. It's like. It's because you need to do it. It's like your body's like, I can't do this. I can't do this. Because you. It would be so beneficial. Special to you.

[Matt]

He do transcendental meditation.

[Annie Letterman]

I did TM for a little bit. Yeah.

[Matt]

Did you do, like, the David Lynch Foundation?

[Annie Letterman]

I did.

[Matt]

You did. Okay. You did. How much was it?

[Annie Letterman]

Okay, so it was. I think I got a discount. This was in, like2013. I think I did it.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

And I got. I showed them, like, how much I made, because this was. I mean, comedy varies. The year was like. I think I was like, I made $4,000 this year or something. You know, you just tell them, and they gave me. I got a scholarship. I think it was only I paid like a couple hundred bucks or something. Wow.

[Heath]

And what exactly.

[Annie Letterman]

I think it's like 1300 or 18, which. I don't know that they need to pay that much. It's a. It's transcendental meditation. They give you a mantra. You can find it online.

[Matt]

What the mantra is. It's not personalized to you.

[Annie Letterman]

It's. I think, for me, I think what I realized was it was like, age and gender.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

But they teach it to you, and you go to these classes and stuff. I think the good thing about it costing a lot of money is you. You give it more value.

[Matt]

Yes, of course.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, if someone gives you something for free, you're like, I don't have to show up. Who cares?

[Matt]

You kind of honor it.

[Zane]

Have you ever done ayahuasca?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Heath]

Zane is super.

[Annie Letterman]

Have you done it?

[Heath]

Curious.

[Zane]

No, no, I'm very. Yeah, curious after last episode. I will not do it.

[Annie Letterman]

But really, what did they say? The exorcist was getting something out of someone?

[Zane]

Yes, he said when. When. Obviously, like, when you take drugs like that, your body is very, very open. Open to the demons. Like, it's like your guard is down by a lot, especially something, like, as powerful as ayahuasca.

[Heath]

So, like, you're opening your body up to anything.

[Matt]

Anything.

[Heath]

So I could be good, could be bad?

[Zane]

I would be unlucky enough to get all the demons. Yeah, I guess set their seed in me.

[Annie Letterman]

I guess, like. Okay, so part of, like, different, like, facets of spirituality that I've gone to is like, hallucinogens, but also.

[Matt]

Oh, my God. Jesus.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you okay? What was it? A demon. A demon.

[Matt]

Back to what you're saying.

[Annie Letterman]

But there's, like, different facets of things that I've done, so it's like, you know, psychedelics and stuff, but also meditation and hypnosis is something I've. I've had a lot of fun in. And what I learned with, like, subconscious reprogramming and hypnosis is you really can control your brain and your thoughts. So you can. I could go into an ayahuasca ceremony and I can be like, I will never have a bad, bad entity. And I believe I can control that.

[Matt]

With an intention, too.

[Zane]

Got it. So you're not. Ner. You have to not be nervous. I'm guess, like, I'm.

[Annie Letterman]

No, you could be nervous. I mean, I think it'd be crazy. I mean, you're going to be, like, vomiting and.

[Heath]

How many times have you done it?

[Annie Letterman]

Seven, kind of. So you do it over a weekend. You'll do it, like, two nights in a row.

[Heath]

Down in Peru, I've.

[Annie Letterman]

I have a shaman that. That comes.

[Heath]

Oh, you got the plug. Okay.

[Matt]

Oh, he.

[Zane]

He comes to you. You do it here?

[Annie Letterman]

I've done it around different places.

[Zane]

Oh, I. I thought you do it there.

[Annie Letterman]

You can. But to me, that's so scary. I don't want to be in a place maybe that makes. I just don't want to be traveling too. And you're like, where's my stuff?

[Zane]

Maybe it is better to do it in, like, the comfort of your own space.

[Heath]

You got to fly home like this.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I know.

[Heath]

Super.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, the first time I did it was in a. In San Diego, and I drove home afterwards, and I was like. I remember being like, life is so beautiful, and I'd like, look at the mountains. But I turn the wheel.

[Matt]

I'm like, oh, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

I like, oh, God. I probably shouldn't be driving, but. And my shaman will use San Pedro, which is like mescaline afterwards. So you do two. You do ayahuasca one night, breathwork and ayahuasca one night, breathwork and ayahuasca the next night, and then the next day is San Pedro. And San Pedro is like, a hard heart opener. So it's like, very light. So I feel like any sort of darkness you reach during the ayahuasca, you. I really like doing the same page at the end because you can really lighten it up.

[Heath]

Well, you should start with Wim Hof. Just do breath work.

[Zane]

Yeah, maybe.

[Annie Letterman]

Breath work's hard. It's. Everything's so hard. It's like, because your ego wants to stay. You're eat. You're so comfortable in your. Even if you're unhappy where you're at and there's things you want to strive to, you're still comfortable, so your ego keeps you.

[Zane]

I. I have done the. I have done the. I. I forget what it was that we did out in Tree. Joshua. Joshua Tree. It was like a sound bath lady. But, like, it was intense where she was, like, putting her hand over here and like, yeah, like, that type of. And I. I swear to God, I was in a different realm. I could not believe how well it worked because I didn't believe in it.

[Annie Letterman]

Did you do breath work too, or she just.

[Zane]

Was that not breath work when she was just like, go.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Zane]

Like, it was like crazy. I felt like. I felt like I was in that mood movie Midsommar.

[Matt]

Like, the.

[Zane]

I just felt like I was gonna wake up and I was not gonna be there anymore.

[Annie Letterman]

Have you done a lot of mushrooms or anything like that?

[Zane]

I have, but never to the point where I'm, like, tripping.

[Matt]

Shrooms have changed my life. I had massive doses when I was, like, younger, like, in college, and then right after. And it just. I don't feel like we would not be doing what we're doing now if it wasn't for shrooms or for myself.

[Annie Letterman]

Yes.

[Matt]

I don't know. It got me out of my head. It got me more comfortable loving myself and my personality not being. I haven't done, like, heroic doses in a long time. I like, occasionally microdose, but sometimes I'm just. I don't know. I'm kind of content. I need it. If I'm in a funk, maybe I'll consider it. And I've had some microdose times, and I'm like, oh, that was great. But I'm out partying. I Need to have a time in a space where I'm like, oh, yeah, I do think.

[Annie Letterman]

I do think that sometimes I'll see people that find psychedelics and then they're doing it so much where I'm like, I. I think you have to be, like, grounded with it, too. You need enough time to integrate back.

[Matt]

In, you know, like a life chapter. Like, it opens up, like, a new moment and stuff.

[Annie Letterman]

But it is cool. It's. It makes you more, I think, more loving and more understanding of other people and stuff. But yeah, my fiance is very cool. He's very, like. His ego is very content and cool. And he thinks it's because he did so many mushrooms in high school. Like, because he doesn't really do. He won't do stuff with me. But I've done, like, I've gone on. I did a Joe Dispenza, a. A week of meditations with Joe Dispenza, who's a guy that leads. Leads all these different seminars. But I did a whole week of it, which was really awesome. And there was no. You don't take any hallucinogens or anything like that. And you can get to some crazy places that way too. It was really wild. It's really insane.

[Zane]

I. I, like, I need some healing, I think.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Zane]

I need to do a week and a half to two week of just, like, no phone.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. Well, a dopamine. Dopamine detox. That's hard. Yeah.

[Zane]

Yeah, very. Like, I just need.

[Annie Letterman]

When you wake up, do you look right at your phone? Huh? Do you look right at your phone when you wake up?

[Zane]

Immediately. I know.

[Annie Letterman]

And it's so hard because your alarm's on it.

[Zane]

The only time I'm not on my phone is when we're recording.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. And you're itching.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

I'm like, I need to be on my phone. Right.

[Heath]

I should probably check some sort of app.

[Annie Letterman]

I know. And our jobs are related to our phones, too. There's so many justifications.

[Heath]

I'm doing research. I'm looking for topics.

[Annie Letterman]

So when I got out of. When I got out of. Of Joe Dispenza retreat, I was on this really good routine where I would wake up and meditate and sometimes I would imagine for an hour, which is crazy. So you could do like 15 minute ones, too.

[Heath]

Does it. So I've never hit that, like, Zen zone. Does it feel like you're there for an hour or is it kind of.

[Annie Letterman]

Just not really, like. So do you. Have you done guided ones or you just.

[Heath]

No, I just tried to really focus.

[Matt]

It's refusing to react because thoughts are going to come and go. And you. You have, like, a monkey chatter brain that's always wanting to fixate on something. It's like looking at a bunch of cars but refuse. And all the cars basically have, like, oh, bills, but your marriage, this stuff. But you're just watching them pass but refusing to react to those.

[Heath]

I love cars. I'd be trying to figure out what it is.

[Annie Letterman]

I know, but you would just go. You would just go. You would go, all right, I'm trying to figure out what it is. Okay, I'm gonna release that. It's kind of like in life, like, if you think. If you're like a binge eater, why are you binging? Because you're shaming yourself after you ate, and then you're binging again.

[Zane]

Oh, is that what doing.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm doing, Zane?

[Matt]

I'm just.

[Zane]

I just like the taste.

[Matt]

Focusing on, like, your weight and the chair you're sitting on. And your breath. Your mind will sometimes veer, but just as long as you keep yourself centered and just focusing on that. Your breath releasing it. It's this, like, empty plane.

[Annie Letterman]

There's all these different. So TM is a mantra. So you're saying a mantra, but you're not saying it right. So you're thinking it, but you're not, like, moving your mouth and thinking it. And you're trying to, like, almost like, not even the. The mantra are just. It's like, nonsense. Because if it were cup, cup, cup, you're going to be envisioning a cup and thinking about a cup, you know? So it's. It's just like, a word to think about. And then with Joe Dispenza, he has guided meditations that are pretty dope, and there's some that are walking meditations. And you, like, step into your new self.

[Matt]

Got to do this.

[Annie Letterman]

It's crazy. It's really cool. But the week long was so wild. People were having these, like, brain orgasms, basically. So they do this thing where it was so weird. So you squeeze basically your. It's your perineum, but it's basically your taint. So you, like, squeeze your taint. You're supposed to put your cervical. Spinal. Cervical fluid up.

[Zane]

Wait, you're doing this yourself?

[Annie Letterman]

He's like, squeeze your perennial. Yeah. No, it's crazy, though. I'm like, this is weird. Why are you up in my Joe? Dr. Joe?

[Zane]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, you're, like, squeezing, and then you're like. You breathe, you suck in, and you are Supposed to like, squeeze up like you're imagining like a straw. And this like cervical fluid is like going up. You're squeezing your entertain and it's going up. And then you have a pineal gland that's like your. Your brain's clit.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

And then you're. You're supposed to like hit it. And imagine you put your head back and people are like, like, like come. It's like crazy. I know you. It is funny the opposite, because they would think it was crazy.

[Zane]

Oh, my God.

[Matt]

I'm open to this.

[Annie Letterman]

Really cool. And it was no hallucinogens, no substances, distances, nothing. So I really liked that.

[Zane]

You know it's a brain or, you know, it's a brain orgasm. I did. I did the Korean hair spa the other day.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, I want to do that.

[Zane]

Oh, my God. I think that's the same thing that squeeze my chain also.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I know. I'm like. Which hairs were they working on? They do your pubes?

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. No, those look awesome. How long did. How many hours was it?

[Zane]

It was like. It was like 45 minutes to an hour of them just massaging.

[Annie Letterman]

Did they take video of your scalp?

[Zane]

Yeah, it was really. It was gross.

[Annie Letterman]

Nasty.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

She said it was not that bad.

[Zane]

There's a little bit of build up, but not as bad as she expected. And then after it was done, it was a cleanest.

[Annie Letterman]

My hair, like, you should see my taint. A lot of build up down there.

[Matt]

How much was that?

[Zane]

It was expensive.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. How much?

[Zane]

It was like. It was like over a hundred dollars.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Matt]

Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

Zane poor.

[Zane]

Well, I. I get haircuts for like 60 bucks, so to me, $145 to do massage. It's pretty crazy.

[Annie Letterman]

Massage is usually over 100.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Zane]

Yes, massages. But to me, that's not. That's like a.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you get massages every week? Really?

[Zane]

Yeah, but it's like that. It's not like the relaxed massage. It's like the one where they hurt.

[Matt]

It hurts.

[Zane]

Yeah. Yeah, I need it. I like, I need them to dig into my lower back and like, I need to yell. Yeah, that's the only way it's gonna.

[Matt]

The.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I'm. I'm down to the deep tissue massages. I hate when they, when it's Raiki, you go and they're like, they're just putting energy. I'm like, I'm gonna need a refund.

[Heath]

What a. What a great job though. Okay.

[Annie Letterman]

But I've done weird energy healings that are like that. I. It could be fake, but There are times where I've had, like, weird energy or like, you have, like, a grudge with someone. You're like, why am I still thinking about this person? I've done weird energy clearings with people where they, they. They like, cut the cords for me. Like, the emotional and spiritual. And I don't think about the person anymore. And not in like a. It's not even like a shitty way or. I don't feel like I've sold myself out. And I don't feel like there's just nothing just. Exactly.

[Zane]

It's like. And they're not touching you. They're squeezing your t. They are not touching.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I saying it's like, it's a good retreat because you come back tighter. My fans like, what the hell?

[Zane]

Holy.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm just keling the whole time. But it was so weird. I never had the brain orgasm. I was pissed, but I. But when I got back from that, I was so on track because it really just shows you how you. You create your own world. So anything that's going wrong in your life is just. It's your subconscious has planted that or is, like, seeing it that way and just creating more and more of that.

[Zane]

How long are you on track for when you do that?

[Annie Letterman]

Okay, so I did, like, how often.

[Zane]

Do you think you need to do these type of retreats or.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, a retreat and stuff. It would be. I mean, if I could do one done, you know, one or two a year. That's great to just stay on it. But I had. I had buddied up with two people from that I had met on the retreat, and we were. All three were meditating together. And then three was too much. So then two of us started meditating together. And then it started to just get like, I don't want to, like, talk to this person every day. You're just sort of like, I don't know you.

[Zane]

I have my whole life.

[Annie Letterman]

Not in a shitty way. He's a nice guy. But you're like, now I'm taking on your life. And then, then. But when I was good, it was. We were meditating for, like, anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour. Right when I would wake up, then I got this. This journal that was like a. Like a calendar. And it was called F. It's a F. I think it's called full focus. And it has, like, you set up your day. If you set it up the night before, then you don't have any decision fatigue, like the next day. If your whole day is planned the next day or the day before. So then you wake up and it's like, all right, so I meditated. Do that. But then I always. So when you first wake up, your brain's in theta and that every. That's like the most important part of your day. That's why it's so bad when we look at our phones, because that your brain is half dreaming and half awake and is susceptible to things. So that's when it's really good to either meditate, do breath work, get light in your eyes. Get some. Yeah, get light in your eyes. Huber man. I'm always like, my eyes are burning. I want to do a sketch. And my eyes are like, yeah, you.

[Zane]

Have to get sun in your. On your.

[Matt]

But I mean, as long as you're like, paint. Yeah, yeah. Getting light in your eyes, you know.

[Annie Letterman]

Or you do, like, subconscious pro. Because your brain can, like, you can. You can get into your brain then and you can rewire your brain. So it's like that time in the morning is so good. And I'm always like, do I do that? Have you ever heard of the Artist Way?

[Matt]

Yes, of course.

[Annie Letterman]

So then there's like the.

[Matt]

We have a thing.

[Heath]

What is it?

[Annie Letterman]

I know you're like, can we go back to taint?

[Matt]

The Artist Way is like the biggest, like, self help, like, creativity. Like, it's good for.

[Annie Letterman]

If you have writer's blog or any. It's really cool. It's actually really fun. It's. It's fun. Like the first chapter she talks about, there's shadow artists. So there's like, people around you, and it's like your agents and your managers and like, people that are in the business. Yeah, but producers.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

That are in the business that wanted to be artists, but they couldn't be artists. They have to watch out for them because they're like, it's kind of fun. Fun. It's. Yeah.

[Matt]

You make playdates with yourself, but you're.

[Annie Letterman]

But you're supposed to every morning do morning pages where when you wake up, you just stream of consciousness write for three pages and you get all this gunk out. But then I'm like, oh, so do I do that? So then I wake up and I'm.

[Matt]

Like, am I supposed to do that?

[Annie Letterman]

I'm like, okay. Joe Dispenza says to meditate. This says to write down three pages. I write your goals. Make. This is what I did to make my bed. I just of go like, I just kind of like, do the lightest bed makeup.

[Zane]

Go with the flow, baby.

[Annie Letterman]

But then also, whatever Comes up my.

[Zane]

Way, it comes up my way and.

[Annie Letterman]

I get it done. That's also a good thing to do because being in the flow state is good, but it's so it's in the morning just trying to figure that out. But, but I did have a really good couple months when I was like doing that and I was writing down my goals. I also read, I've just read so many self help books that they're competing. I have like a hundred gurus like fighting in my brain.

[Zane]

I try not to write my goals cuz I just know I'll never accomplish them. If I were to write my goals for the day, I wouldn't get okay, 80 of them.

[Annie Letterman]

So as a hypnotist, girly. Hypnosis girly. That's bad to say because you'll never get them done if you say you'll never get them done. But if you were like I'm gonna get all these done, then you've tricked your brain and now you're going to be seeing things easier. Things are gonna, you're gonna have more opportunities if you.

[Matt]

Exactly. It's your mindset.

[Zane]

All right, I'm buying a journal.

[Matt]

Yeah, I just got a, I got a hobonichi the other day.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh really?

[Matt]

A hobonichi planner. It's just like a daily planner. I got the weakest one, the Hobonichi because I've been a moleskin guy in the past and I haven't committed to them. But hobonichi I got on Hobonichi.

[Annie Letterman]

It has it like templated out.

[Matt]

Yes, yes. You just like write down like your, your weekend stuff and you can do your kind of daily grind on that.

[Zane]

There's pages, Google Calendar.

[Matt]

It's just I've been looking at the subreddits, all the tick tocks. It's like a whole lot.

[Annie Letterman]

But I do like writing it. I feel like with the, with the phone and then I'm on my phone immediately in the morning.

[Zane]

Writing is writing I feel like is so much better.

[Matt]

I got little stickers. I feel like a little like Korean school girl. Cuz I'm like getting all into it.

[Zane]

Your, your thing looks like that.

[Matt]

It's going to look like that I got. Because they can sell out. And right now is the time to buy your planners for hobonichi's because once.

[Annie Letterman]

We have to come up with our own, we have to come up with our own journal. Guys, there's going to be a specific journal coming out. He's gonna have your exorcisms at 3pm yes. You're gonna do all this. Woo. Woo.

[Matt]

And then you're gonna have to get.

[Annie Letterman]

The devil out of you.

[Matt]

All your marathon planning. But yeah, that's a hobonichi. It's a whole. It's a whole community of the hobos.

[Annie Letterman]

But it is. Yeah, no, it's cool to plan the stuff out, but then. And then you have to be very graceful with yourself if you don't get it all done. And then you got to bump it to the next day.

[Matt]

Yes.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Zane]

I just move.

[Annie Letterman]

But I'm such a bumper. But then I'm fighting. I'm like, what should I do? This.

[Zane]

My whole thing. You should see my last day. My last day of my week is just everything that I did book.

[Annie Letterman]

Well, it's hard because you. There's easy things to get done, and then you feel, like, good about it. So it's like, oh, I have to return something. Yeah, if you return something, then you're like.

[Zane]

But then you're exhausted, and then you're home and you're, like, so tired.

[Annie Letterman]

I want to lay down. I know, but. So I. I read this book called Brian Tracy Goals. And by the way, when I say read a book, I'm listening to the audiobook, okay? The minute I read one line, I fall asleep.

[Zane]

Yeah. That's crazy.

[Heath]

How you feel about wanting to do this marathon is how I feel about books. I'll be like, I gotta order this book. And I'll be like, I'm gonna do it. I'll order it. And then I was like, nah.

[Annie Letterman]

No. I can't believe it. I was watching this. This interview with Jacob Balori. They were talking about Frankenstein, and it was this guy that was like, tell me your. Your favorite three books. And he kind of, like, looks off into space. And I'm like, oh, this is gonna be hilarious. He's a dumb, dumb. He looks like such an idiot, you know? And then I was like, this is great. He's Frankenstein. He probably doesn't read. And the guy goes, it's like spongebob squarepants when you have all those things going on. And I'm like, there's no way that's what it's like. And then he goes. And then he really takes a beat, and he's like, well, I've read, like, 15 books. And then I was like, oh, you're like a book guy, Jacob. Like, ask me that. They're like, what are your top three books? I'd be like, well, like, there was that one where the tree was a stump at the end, and the boy turned Into a. Like, I don't know if reading. Sorry, But I do. I'll listen to audiobooks, but this one's cool because this helped me quit drinking. I quit drinking in 2000, like, 15, 16 years ago. 17 years ago.

[Zane]

Congratulations.

[Annie Letterman]

Thanks. But obviously I do drugs, but do drugs, kids.

[Heath]

But ayahuasca.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm super. I'm super. But you write your goals down, positive, present tense. And this is weird, like, where you're saying you don't want to write your goals down. I. So I did this when I was, like, living on my friend's couch in New York, and I wanted to start doing stand up, but I hadn't even started it. I wrote 10 things down I wanted to do. You write it in positive present tense. Like, I am this. And one of the things was I wanted to do that show Chelsea Lately, but I was embarrassed to even write it down because I was, like, just some, like, drunk, like, and living on my friend's couch in New York. I was like, I think I'd be able to do that. I want to be a touring comedian. I want a manager and an agent. All these things, and. Or I have them. And then you write, like, three things, positive, present tense, you could do. And then I found it, like, three years later, and I'd already gotten Montreal Comedy Festival, like, everything I wanted, I got that. I was humiliated to even write down, even think. It was crazy. So it's like, cool. It's like, so if I could do this, how many other things could I do? I mean, you could write down, like, you could. Could win a. An Oscar.

[Zane]

Yeah, I'm gonna do it.

[Annie Letterman]

You know which one that is?

[Matt]

Yeah, yeah, that's the music one, right?

[Annie Letterman]

But it's like. Yeah, it's. It's kind of crazy.

[Matt]

Do you like motivational speakers? Do you like Tony Robbins or any of that? Or you, like, sometimes. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Is that how you say it's over? Yeah. And it's the great episode.

[Zane]

This fly is just in front of me and will not leave.

[Heath]

Write it down, Write it down.

[Zane]

This fly is bothering me.

[Annie Letterman]

The have fun sign is good.

[Matt]

It's nice.

[Zane]

Thank you. Oh, Jared just put that up the other day.

[Annie Letterman]

It's good, but it is to remember to have some fun. I don't know if that's why you put it up or not, but it. But that's hypnosis. That's like reminding yourself, like, training yourself, like, course correcting, getting back on track, because you can. I'll get into these, like, phases where I'm just, like, Watching True Crime, and. And I'm just scrolling and everything's like, feels horrible. And if you. If you do watch True Crime, they always say about the victim that they watch True Crime. They're like, she loved Datelines.

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, yeah, of course she manifested this. Not that I'm victim shaming, but my.

[Heath]

Algorithm is so messed up because I.

[Zane]

Do like watching so bad. I like watching Dark. And that's probably why I'm constantly in my head, like, just.

[Annie Letterman]

It's also fun. But if you can compartmental, there's a way to do it where you're like, this is my work and this is.

[Matt]

You know, my entertainment. Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah. I have to, like, separate things, but it's just always course correcting. But this stuff rules. I. I definitely. Yeah, I like, maybe not Tony Robbins is good.

[Heath]

I just don't like that all these motivational people.

[Annie Letterman]

People.

[Heath]

Their ways the right way and everybody else is wrong and they got to nitpick everybody else's like, methods and things. It's like, who the do I trust at this point? Because every. It's like what works for you.

[Zane]

It's like, Dr. You trust Archbishop Ronnie.

[Heath]

I feel like every doctor I go to is like, oh, wow. I definitely wouldn't have done it that way. Every dentist, they're like, o. Who did this before? It's like the fact that you're looking.

[Annie Letterman]

At your dentist like a guru might be the problem. Your gum guru.

[Zane]

Truth.

[Heath]

What should I do?

[Annie Letterman]

No, but I think. I think what I've learned, because I am always kind of. I have that problem too, where I'm like, oh, I'll get, like, a new person's ideas. I'm like, oh, I should do it this way. And it's like, really? You have to just. You can just learn all this information. Then you have to create your own pick and choose.

[Heath]

I have an analysis. Paralysis.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, I know.

[Matt]

Really bad.

[Heath]

Really bad.

[Annie Letterman]

And then you have too many options, and it's impossible. So then in the morning, you're like, should I do breath work? Should I do this? Should I do that? And then you're like, oh, I'll just watch, like somebody else. Or get people hit on their stuff. Scooter. Oh, yeah.

[Heath]

So much videos on. On Instagram now. It's crazy.

[Annie Letterman]

And they're like, I hope this is AI. If they're like, really, really obese. I'm like, this is AI. Like, this is AI. This is AI.

[Heath]

It's got to be.

[Annie Letterman]

But, yeah, no, it's. It's hard. Yeah, but that's Why? I think if you set it up the night before, you're kind of not confused by what you're going to do in the morning.

[Heath]

Do you pick out your outfits that day before?

[Annie Letterman]

No, but that's maybe a good idea.

[Matt]

Usually put my workout clothes right next to. My mom used to make my outfits. Today, it's just right there at night.

[Heath]

And you have it out ready to go for you the next day.

[Matt]

It's just the first thing to do.

[Heath]

I should start doing that again.

[Matt]

Or like, you just wake up and your workout clothes are right there.

[Annie Letterman]

Easy. You have to. You have to take away any difficulty because it's already going to be difficult.

[Matt]

So you're already tired, but then now you're strapped into. You're in your gym outfit. What are you going to do? Not go to the gym, like, but.

[Annie Letterman]

Also, yes, I can do that. I can totally wear a yoga outfit for an entire day and not go to yoga. I'm like, oh, I didn't. I can push past, but. But it is better. It's like, yeah, the gym's such a good example too, because, you know, it makes you feel good, but it just. You don't realize it till after.

[Heath]

Yeah, yeah. We used to go to the gym and sit outside, smoke cigarettes for like 30 minutes.

[Zane]

Like fake water.

[Heath]

Let's go to McDonald's shirts. I used to go into the bath, we'd sit there, smoke cigarettes. We'd get like Bud Light platinum, and we would be drinking on the bench in front of the gym.

[Annie Letterman]

There's something fun about being a up too.

[Heath]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Like there really is something funn. But I don't.

[Zane]

I don't know why we were lying to our parents about this.

[Heath]

Because. Because I couldn't sit there and be like, I'm gonna go out with my friends.

[Annie Letterman]

Right?

[Heath]

If I. But if I was like, hey, mom, I'm gonna go to the gym, she'd be like, okay. So we get there and then like, right before we're about to leave, we're like, all right, let's go in real quick. We splash some water all over.

[Annie Letterman]

Were you guys fit looking, though? No, no.

[Zane]

We were so out of shape and every time we got back home, we were just getting bigger. Yeah, we weren't looking good after.

[Annie Letterman]

You guys have. Have trainers or do you just work out by yourselves?

[Zane]

I have a trainer.

[Matt]

I haven't really.

[Annie Letterman]

I need a trainer.

[Matt]

I'm like a trainer who has me on like a program, but I don't go crazy about it.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, you have to be a little loose.

[Matt]

Yeah. A little loose. I'm pretty consistent.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm catching this vibe. Okay. I. I agree with you. I think that's good. I think that's good to just be like a little.

[Matt]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

Because you don't want to be too strict. Because that's where I always end up getting off track. Because I'm like, oh, it's. I don't want to fall. And then I should resent my trainer.

[Matt]

Yeah, exactly.

[Annie Letterman]

Tell me what to do.

[Heath]

Who do you think you are?

[Annie Letterman]

Think you are.

[Heath]

You're.

[Annie Letterman]

I know I need to get a trainer. I've been trying to get back on a routine and I'm like, I need a. I just need someone.

[Zane]

I've gone to the point where I'm. I'm pretty. I'm like, I'm very strict with my workout routine. But, like, I don't mind it now.

[Annie Letterman]

It's like.

[Zane]

It's just like. To me, it's just like part of work.

[Annie Letterman]

Because you put that in such a habit that it's like.

[Zane]

Yeah.

[Annie Letterman]

How much you switch it up when.

[Zane]

You switch it up.

[Annie Letterman]

How much you switch up the workout. Yeah.

[Zane]

I mean, I'm in the gym.

[Annie Letterman]

Like, you just know you're going to be. You don't do the exact same sequence of exercises. Exercises every week or you do in.

[Zane]

In some way. Yeah, sure. Because it's whatever equipment's at the gym.

[Annie Letterman]

Right.

[Zane]

I just work with. With that.

[Annie Letterman]

But you have the trainer there every time.

[Zane]

Yeah, yeah. To me, that's important because I'm like, I'm not doing it by myself. I just won't. I'm gonna get there and be like.

[Heath]

Yeah, I could see a running trainer.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah.

[Heath]

I think if you had a trainer that would just sit there and run with you, I'd be like, okay, I could. I could.

[Zane]

Someone's doing.

[Heath]

I could get behind that.

[Annie Letterman]

I know a guy who. He wrote a book about running. It's so funny. He was a friend of mine from my coffee shop because I just. I'm like, basically doing crowd work with everyone at all times. Times. I'm just like, collecting people all throughout the day. My friend Corey, and he wrote a book. He's like a. A running trainer for Nike, and he wrote a book about running. And when he gave it to me, I was like, it's so funny that he's giving me two things I'm not gonna do. Like, I'm definitely not reading this. Definitely not running.

[Matt]

I've always wanted to read Born to Run. That one is like a big running book.

[Heath]

Isn't that A song.

[Matt]

Born to Run. Oh, yeah. Bruce Springsteen. It is.

[Annie Letterman]

It's just. You get the run. Wrong one. Yeah.

[Matt]

By Christopher. Is it about the Tata Hamada? I think. I don't know. Yeah, it's about the Tata Hamada, who are like that tribe that can run hundreds of miles without injury.

[Zane]

I think two pages, like a whole book about running. Just make it a couple of.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm just going to put it in a chat. GPT be like, can you read this out loud to me? Yeah, give me that. Yeah. Can you Cliff, note this for me? I get torn too, between being like, it's. Is there a. Is there running high? There's this thing I'm missing. Should I strive for it or is that not for me? Because I do think we have unlimited possibilities. But is it at my point in life, is this worth it for me to, like, do this or do it? I just stay in another lane? I mean, I think you should try.

[Heath]

Running.

[Zane]

And do it. We'll do it together.

[Annie Letterman]

Okay. I. I know. Because a full one, though, is like, I don't know.

[Heath]

I saw a motivational speaker say running is bad for your knees and it does more damage than good. So then I'm like, okay, I guess I'm not run.

[Zane]

Not good to run every. I wouldn't say run every day.

[Annie Letterman]

Are you sure was a motivational speaker? I think you think everyone's a motivational. You're like, you know when your dentist.

[Matt]

Is motivational.

[Heath]

Some random dude on Tik.

[Zane]

Tok, it's always your chiropractor.

[Heath]

Yeah, but.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, I love a chiropractor. Where you're like, is this helping? I cannot tell.

[Heath]

I've never been to one. It feels good.

[Annie Letterman]

Feel good, or worse. I can't tell. But. Yeah, no, I. Yeah, I get that too, though, where I'm like, I was so gung ho. I was like, it's going to be great. I'm just going to tell myself it's going to be easy. I'm going to run this morning marathon. And then, like, two people were like, it's bad for your knees.

[Heath]

How about this? It's a Burj Khalifa marathon and you gotta walk the stairs.

[Matt]

Okay. The. The stairs of the Burj Khalifa.

[Heath]

That's a marathon. Up and down. You're not running. There's no impact. You're just.

[Matt]

They do that for like 9, 11, I think, like firefighters or they do it as like. It's like you do a whole bunch of flights of stairs for like, the firefighters of 9 11. It's like you do the amount of stairs that they had to do that.

[Annie Letterman]

Day, and then you go.

[Matt]

Some firefighters, like, actually do it. Like in.

[Annie Letterman]

Then you go do the Riyadh Comedy Fest. I have. No, I don't.

[Matt]

Do you have anything you would like to plug?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, when does this. When does this come out again?

[Zane]

Thanksgiving.

[Matt]

Yeah, Plug your dates.

[Annie Letterman]

Giving everyone.

[Zane]

Oh, Annie. What are you thankful for? Let's end it like that because it's a Thanksgiving episode.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, I'm thankful. This podcast I ever did. No, I'm grateful for every. It's so fun. I have a fun job. It's fun to hang out with you guys. I'm grateful for. For the.

[Zane]

Doesn't seem like you care. You're on your phone.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm trying to get my.

[Heath]

Looking up what to be grateful for.

[Annie Letterman]

Chat. Gbt. What? I'm grateful for chat.

[Zane]

You're pulling up your dates?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, I was gonna pull up my dates.

[Zane]

Your dates for your tour.

[Annie Letterman]

Do you not want that?

[Zane]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Matt]

Let's. Let's do it.

[Heath]

It's the dates that she's going on with her fiance anyway.

[Annie Letterman]

I'm all over the place. I'm on tour. I'm grateful that I get to go on tour. I get to. I have cool ass fans. It's fun. I don't know. Life is good.

[Zane]

What's the date that we're gonna come to?

[Annie Letterman]

Well, that's going to be in the past.

[Zane]

November 18th.

[Annie Letterman]

Because it's going to be the eight. You're going to be coming on the 18th. And this is the.

[Zane]

The 18th. Is your show here? Well, yeah, that's my birth.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, it's your birthday?

[Matt]

Oh, yeah.

[Heath]

I do not want to do that on my birthday.

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, don't come. Don't come. Yeah. He's like, ew. See you again on my birthday.

[Zane]

That's the only date that you're.

[Annie Letterman]

No, I perform. I perform all the time. It's monthly.

[Zane]

Oh.

[Annie Letterman]

Come to the next Annie Wood and Friends. I don't know what the. I don't have it on the screen.

[Zane]

Oh, if it's in December, I'll bring my mom.

[Matt]

Are you in Houston, Texas, on November 20th? 22nd at the Riot Comedy Club? December 12th 13th in Botvia, Illinois, at the Comedy Vault. December 26th and through the 27th, Pottstown, Pennsylvania.

[Annie Letterman]

That's right, baby.

[Matt]

At Soul Joel's at Sunny Allentown. And that's for the rest of the year. But then. Do you want me to go all through 2026? You are booked. Oh, boy. Okay. Okay, here we go. We got Austin, Texas. January 9th. January 10th, we have Columbus, Ohio, Ohio. January 16th 17th, Bloomington, Minnesota, the 23rd of the 24th of January, Fort Worth, Texas, my home state. Go see it. January 30th. And we have Dallas, Texas, my hometown. January 31st. And we have Win Florida. Zayn.

[Annie Letterman]

Now. I'll be back. I'll be back in Florida, though. I. Tampa is my. That's, like, my spot.

[Zane]

Oh, really?

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, it's so fun to perform in Tampa.

[Zane]

Do you like Miami? Fort Lauderdale?

[Annie Letterman]

Yeah, but Miami, the club in Tampa, like, rules.

[Zane]

Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Go see our show. Make sure.

[Annie Letterman]

Come to my shows. Come Annie letterman.com for the shows. My Instagram is Annie Letterman. L E D R man. My podcast, Annie Wood. Every Thursday on YouTube. Annie Letterman, come find me.

[Matt]

You're a rock star. Thank you for coming.

[Zane]

We'll have you come back. You're easy.

[Matt]

Yeah. You're a great guest.

[Zane]

No, Great guest. No, really, truly.

[Annie Letterman]

Oh, look at the tides of turn. No. It was so fun, you guys. I love you guys. This was so fun.

[Zane]

Someone else, about 45 minutes ago, I'd have been like, hey, can we.

[Annie Letterman]

Can we. Can we close this out?

[Heath]

Yeah, we usually do about, like, hour 15. We did 215.

[Annie Letterman]

So.

[Zane]

No, this is. This is really good. Thank you guys for taking the time. We really appreciate it, and I love you guys. Make sure to check her out. You can check out these episodes every Monday audio form on all podcast platforms and every Tuesday, video form on YouTube.com Zayan and Heath.

[Heath]

That's right. Also make sure to check out our Patreon. Patreon.com Zayan and Heath we keep these cameras rolling. You get an extended cut of every single podcast episode. We do a bonus episode every month. We do a live Q and a every single month. All early access ad free again. Patreon.com zaynanheat we're also posting videos of.

[Zane]

All of us, including Annie, squeezing our taints there.

[Heath]

And we're gonna film it and we're.

[Zane]

Gonna show everything on orgasms.

[Matt]

Toodles.

[Zane]

All right, thank you, guys.

[Heath]

Love you guys. Bye.

[Annie Letterman]

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[Heath]

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[Zane]

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[Annie Letterman]

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[Zane]

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[Annie Letterman]

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[Zane]

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[Annie Letterman]

Hey, this is Sarah. Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fulfilling, even kind of of cheesy. But I like it. Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all.

[Matt]

So farewell Oatmeal, so long. Use strange soggy Break up with bland.

[Zane]

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[Matt]

Am PM too much good stuff.