THE CHARLES WILDE MURDER and THE PREMATURE CORPSE MR.AND MRS. NORTH

Summary

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Episode: THE CHARLES WILDE MURDER and THE PREMATURE CORPSE – MR. AND MRS. NORTH
Host: Jon Hagadorn
Date: May 17, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this double-feature episode from the golden age radio series "Mr. and Mrs. North," listeners are treated to two classic murder mysteries: "The Charles Wilde Murder" and "The Premature Corpse." Both stories follow Pam and Jerry North as they find themselves amid unexpected deaths, intricate motives, and devious suspects. Set in New York City, these tales combine domestic banter with crime-solving acumen, showcasing the wit and charm of the Norths as amateur detectives.

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Part One: The Charles Wilde Murder

Key Discussion Points and Plot Breakdown

1. Setting the Scene (01:04–03:25)

• Charles Wyatt, a handsome, well-dressed man, is convicted of fraud and faces 5–10 years in prison.
• His attorney, Gordon Ross, petitions for bail pending appeal, which is granted.
• Tension is evident: Wyatt suggests Ross is just as guilty, threatening to expose him if the appeal fails.

Charles Wyatt (01:46): “If I go to prison, I’m taking you with me.”

2. The Norths’ Interrupted Plans (03:25–04:12)

• Jerry and Pam North’s plans for a night out are derailed due to Jerry’s meeting with a writer, Hobbs, at the King William Hotel.
• Pam has a foreboding feeling:

Pam North (03:49): “I have a strange feeling that this evening is getting off on the wrong foot.”

3. Entering the Crime Web (04:12–07:13)

• Charles and Helen Wyatt argue bitterly about money and blame.
• Outside a lounge, Charles is confronted by Grimes, an angry victim of Wyatt's fraud.

Grimes (05:44): “If my wife dies, Mr. Wyatt, her blood will be on your hands.”

• Charles loses his temper and assaults Grimes, foreshadowing deeper trouble.

4. Discovery of the Body (07:13–09:52)

• Pam and Jerry North visit the King William Hotel, confused about room numbers.
• In room 251, they discover a man (Charles Wyatt) lying dead with a knife in his back.

Pam North (08:17): “Oh, Jerry…with this knife in his back. Yes, dear. He’s dead.”

• The body soon disappears, taken away via a connecting door and escape to the alley.

5. Suspects and Motives (09:52–14:50)

• Grimes is seen trying to extort hush money from Gordon Ross, who disposed of the body in the bay to make it appear Wyatt fled.
• Police discover the getaway car belongs to Wyatt, whose corpulent fraud case dominates the news.

6. The Investigation Unfolds (14:50–20:11)

• The Norths and police Lieutenant Wigan inform Helen Wyatt of her husband’s death.
• Grimes tries to blackmail Helen over her husband’s life insurance, hinting that he knows where the body is.

7. The Confrontation (19:03–24:49)

• At Grimes’ apartment, a tense confrontation arises among Grimes, Helen, and Gordon Ross over the whereabouts of Wyatt and double-crossing.

• Gunplay ensues; Mrs. Wyatt reveals she has her own weapon.

• Jerry and Pam race upstairs as gunfire breaks out.

• Helen tries to escape out the window and is restrained; she confesses:

Helen Wyatt (24:13): “I had to. Don’t you understand? I had to. My whole life was going to be ruined… Charles’ insurance was all that was left.”

8. Resolution and Tone (25:08–25:57)

• Pam and Jerry realize their theater tickets were for the next night, and the entire misadventure was sparked over a mistaken date.
• They share lighthearted banter:

Pam North (25:58): “Who for? For Mr. Hobbs, dear. I’m not going to take a chance of missing that play tomorrow night.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Threatening Attorney:

  Charles Wyatt (01:46): “If my conviction isn't reversed ... someone will hear how you were in this just as deep as I was.”

• Victim Blaming:

  Helen Wyatt (05:14): “Well, Charles, where does this leave me?”

• Extortion Plot:

  Grimes (12:52): “You think the police will believe that if I tell them what I saw? ... $10,000 out of me, Grimes—you’re as crazy as Wyatt told me you were.”

• Big Reveal

  Helen Wyatt (24:13): “I had to ... my whole life was going to be ruined, Charles’ insurance was all that was left.”

Key Timestamps:

• 01:04 – Courtroom verdict and bail
• 08:17 – Discovery of the murdered Wyatt
• 14:00 – Car traced to Wyatt
• 16:00 – Helen learns of her husband’s death
• 24:13 – Helen confesses to the murder

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Part Two: The Premature Corpse

Key Discussion Points and Plot Breakdown

1. Setting up the Triangle (28:02–31:20)

• Ferdy Hathaway entertains his brother’s wife, Shirley, who flirts with him and tries to embroil him in a scheme to kill her husband, Doug.
• Ferdy rebuffs her, leading to a physical altercation.

Ferdy Hathaway (29:55): “I wouldn’t put it past you even to try to get me to...to get rid of Doug for you.”

• Shirley threatens to expose Doug’s criminal activities if she doesn’t get what she wants.

2. Shirley’s Accusations (33:08–35:15)

• Shirley flips the narrative for Doug, claiming Ferdy assaulted her, and uses emotional turmoil to manipulate Doug.

3. The Norths Investigate (37:48–41:01)

• Police Lieutenant Bill Wagon tells Jerry that Ferdy Hathaway has been murdered and requests the Norths’ help.
• The Norths visit Laura Arnold, Ferdy’s girlfriend, to check her alibi. She acts suspicious—her timeline doesn’t match the desk clerk’s account.
• Laura admits to finding Ferdy dead but didn’t report it immediately out of fear.

Laura Arnold (40:25): “I did have lunch with Ferdy. He told me about Shirley. Then we went back to his place and talked a while, and I left. But about an hour later, I realized I’d left my gloves...so I went back and there he was on the floor, dead.”

4. The Yellow Convertible Clue (41:31–44:07)

• Laura saw a distinctive yellow convertible leaving Ferdy’s building—the same car that now belongs to Doug Hathaway.

5. Doug and Shirley Under Suspicion (44:07–48:02)

• Police question Doug and Shirley Hathaway.
• Doug admits to using the car but claims he left without meeting Ferdy; he reports seeing a tall, blond, well-dressed stranger.
• During questioning, Doug is attacked and grazed by the assailant, who escapes.

6. Exposing the Lie (45:31–49:48)

• Days later, Jerry’s intuition leads to a morgue identification. Doug positively IDs the “stranger”—but the man died before Ferdy.
• Jerry traps Doug in a lie about the car: Laura could only have described it if she actually saw it at Ferdy’s.

Jerry North (49:40): “How could Laura have described it unless she really did see it at Ferdy’s?”

7. Denouement and Aftermath (49:48–51:11)

• Doug Hathaway, exposed as the murderer, is arrested.
• The Norths reflect on the lengths people go to for money and the destruction it brings.

Pam North (50:16): “Well, it’s quite obvious that she just married Doug Hathaway for his money. And now that he’s caught for murders ... his whole crooked house will come tumbling down.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Manipulation and Lies:

  Doug Hathaway (35:00): “My dear, sanctimonious brother. Now, that he knows about me, I’ve got to figure some way to shut him up.”

• Murderous Intent:

  Ferdy Hathaway ( Thirty-something, paraphrased): “I think Shirley’s going to try to go through with it—so I’ve got to warn Doug.”

• The Car as Evidence:

  Jerry North (49:40): “How could Laura have described it unless she really did see it at Ferdy’s?”

• Reflections on Greed:

  Jerry North (50:33): “She knew Doug was a crook. Ferdy knew too. That’s why Doug killed him, to shut him up.”

Key Timestamps:

• 28:02 – Shirley’s seduction attempt & fight with Ferdy
• 37:48 – Ferdy’s death revealed
• 40:05 – Laura admits finding Ferdy dead
• 41:54 – The yellow convertible clue
• 44:18 – Doug attacked by the supposed “stranger”
• 49:16 – Pam deduces Laura is telling the truth, exposing Doug
• 50:03 – The Norths’ closing reflections

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Episode Highlights

• Twisty Double-Investigation: Both stories hinge on marital betrayal, the danger of secrets, and insurance-motivated murder.
• Human Weakness: The show adeptly portrays greed, desperation, and manipulation in personal relationships.
• Classic Norths Wit: Pam and Jerry’s light bickering and clever deductions keep the tone lively even amid grim events.

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Final Reflection

These vintage mysteries’re a treat for fans of clever puzzles, witty dialogue, and sharp characterization. Both stories exemplify why radio crime dramas of the era captivated millions, blending suspense with the lighter touch brought by the bantering, crime-solving Norths.

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For listeners eager for deductive drama and character-driven intrigue, “The Charles Wilde Murder” and “The Premature Corpse” make for a fantastic double bill.

Transcript

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[Jerry North]

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[Pam North]

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[Jerry North]

starring Joseph Curtin and Alice Frost. In the solemn atmosphere of a New York courtroom, far from the comfortable life of Pam and Jerry north, another drama from life is reaching its climax. The defendant will rise. A handsome, well dressed man fighting hard to conceal his nervousness, leaves his chair and faces the judge. It is the sentence of this court that you, Charles Wyatt, having been convicted of fraud, be confined to the state penitentiary for a term of not less than five and not more than 10 years. Yes, one drama is over. But as Gordon Ross, Charles Wyatt's attorney, gets to his feet, another drama is just commencing. Your honor, I petition that my client be admitted to bail pending an appeal of his conviction. If there's no objection from the state, petition is granted. Thank you, your honor. Court is adjourned. Five to 10 years. Now listen, Charles, everything. Everything's going to be all right. I seem to have heard that one before. We're not through yet, Charles. We'll win on the appeal. I'm sure of it. You were sure I'd never be caught in the first place. Keep your voice down, Charles. Someone will hear you. You're absolutely right. Someone will hear me. If my conviction isn't reversed on the appeal. And that someone will be the district attorney. Gordon, you'll hear how you were in this just as deep as I was. We can't talk here, Charles. Come up to my hotel. I can't come now, being my wife and a half. Hard to circle down. Well, it's only a few blocks from the King William. I'm in room 251. Make it about 7:30. I'll be there. And meanwhile, Gordon, remember what I said. If I go to prison, I'm taking you with me. I'm sorry, dear, but I absolutely have to see this man Hobbs tonight. He's an important writer and.

[Pam North]

Can't you see him tomorrow, Jerry?

[Jerry North]

He's leaving town first thing in the morning.

[Pam North]

What about our theater tickets, darling? We've been looking forward to seeing.

[Jerry North]

Now, don't get excited, dear. We can still go to the play.

[Pam North]

How?

[Jerry North]

I've got it all figured out. We'll leave home a little early. I'll stop and talk to Hobbs. Then we'll go on to the theater.

[Pam North]

Well, where do you have to meet Mr. Hobbs?

[Jerry North]

At his hotel, the King William. It'll work out just right.

[Pam North]

If you say so, dear. All right. But I have a strange feeling that this evening is getting off on the wrong foot. Order me another drink, Charles. Oh, Callan, another drink, please.

[Jerry North]

Very well. Another martini for Mrs. Wyatt, George. Yes, sir. Oh, don't look so disappro.

[Pam North]

You won't be buying me martinis or anything else much longer.

[Jerry North]

That's about all my going to prison means to you, isn't it?

[Pam North]

Helen, it isn't my fault that you got yourself in this stupid jam.

[Jerry North]

Why do you think I listened to Gordon Ross? Why do you think I went along with his plan to fleece a bunch of poor dopes? Charles, because you were never satisfied with what we had. You always had to have more and more and more.

[Pam North]

I've heard enough.

[Jerry North]

Perhaps, Ellen, but you haven't heard the big news yet.

[Pam North]

What are you talking about?

[Jerry North]

Everything we have is going to go go satisfy the stockholders of the Wyatt Investment Company. The house, the car, your jewelry. Yes, even most of your clothes. MOD TD Mrs. Wyatt.

[Pam North]

I don't want it.

[Jerry North]

Drink it, Helen. You look like you need it.

[Pam North]

Well, Charles, where does this leave me?

[Jerry North]

It leaves you with absolutely nothing.

[Pam North]

Helen, let's get out of here.

[Jerry North]

All right. Do at Gordon's Hotel in a few minutes, anyway.

[Pam North]

You want me to drive you there?

[Jerry North]

No, thanks. I'll walk. I better enjoy the fresh air while I still can.

[Pam North]

Very funny. Your sense of humor is.

[Jerry North]

What's the matter?

[Pam North]

We seem to have company again. Look over there.

[Jerry North]

Grimes. Wait here, Helen. Good evening, Mr. Wyatt. Just exactly what's the idea Grimes. The idea, Mr. Wyatt. Of what? Of following me around. This has been going on for weeks. Does it bother you to have me follow you around, Mr. Wyatt? Yes. Good. Good. It kind of bothered me when the Wyatt Investment Company robbed me of every cent I had in the world. Now, see here. My wife is sick, Mr. Wyatt, real sick. She needs medicine, doctors, nurses. But they cost money, and I haven't got any money. I'm warning you, Grimes. Leave me alone. If my wife dies, Mr. Wyatt, her blood will be on your hands. If you'll be a murderer, that's what you'll be, you old fool. I ought to press. Shouldn't have hit me, Mr. Wyatt.

[Pam North]

For heaven's sake, Charles, what's going on?

[Jerry North]

I. I lost my temper for a moment.

[Pam North]

Aren't things bad enough without getting involved in a street brawl? Come on.

[Jerry North]

All right. You shouldn't have done that, Mr. Wyat.

[Pam North]

What time is it, darling?

[Jerry North]

Just 7:30.

[Pam North]

That only gives us an hour to get to the theater.

[Jerry North]

Now, don't worry, dear. I'll take only a few minutes with Hobbs and we'll go. Oh, here we are. Down this way.

[Pam North]

Down that way. Jerry, there's room 251 right across the hall.

[Jerry North]

But Hobbs isn't in room 251.

[Pam North]

Oh, that's what the desk clerk said.

[Jerry North]

Oh, no. I distinctly heard him say 215.

[Pam North]

This is silly.

[Jerry North]

It certainly is.

[Pam North]

While we're standing here arguing, we could try both the rooms.

[Jerry North]

Then let's do it.

[Pam North]

251 first.

[Jerry North]

All right. But I know Hobbs is in. 215. No one there.

[Pam North]

Knock again, dear.

[Jerry North]

But, Pam, Hobbs is expecting me. So if it were his room, he'd be in there. And I've.

[Pam North]

The door isn't closed tight.

[Jerry North]

Now, listen, I'm positive that Hobbs is in room two.

[Pam North]

Pam, what are you doing? No, I'm right, Jerry. I'm just gonna push open the door a crack and keep.

[Jerry North]

Now, stop that. I'm telling you, this isn't Hobbs room. Jerry, what's the matter?

[Pam North]

There's a man in there lying on the floor.

[Jerry North]

On the floor?

[Pam North]

Look.

[Jerry North]

Come on.

[Pam North]

Oh, Jared.

[Jerry North]

With this knife in his back. Yes, dear. He's dead.

[Pam North]

Jerry, is this the rider you were coming to see?

[Jerry North]

Hobbs? No.

[Pam North]

We've got to call the police.

[Jerry North]

I'll try to get the wagon, then call the hotel manager.

[Pam North]

Jerry, did you hear that?

[Jerry North]

Yes.

[Pam North]

Sounded like someone locked that door over there.

[Jerry North]

This must be a suite of rooms.

[Pam North]

Smith's connecting door.

[Jerry North]

Let's try it.

[Pam North]

Sure. There's someone in there.

[Jerry North]

The door's locked.

[Pam North]

Come on.

[Jerry North]

Where you going?

[Pam North]

Out in the hall and try the other door to that room, Pam.

[Jerry North]

All right, but I think we should call Bill instead. Let's quit this running around.

[Pam North]

And, Jerry, if there's someone in there.

[Jerry North]

If there's someone in there, we'll let the police deal with them. Now, let's get back in the other room and call Bill.

[Pam North]

All right. Oh, I had a feeling something would happen so that we wouldn't. Jerry, look.

[Jerry North]

What?

[Pam North]

The connecting door is open. Now, there was someone in there, but not now.

[Jerry North]

And there isn't anyone in here either. Look at the floor, dear.

[Pam North]

The body. It's gone. But, Jerry, I don't understand what you're doing.

[Jerry North]

Was ever in that other room picked up the body?

[Pam North]

Yes.

[Jerry North]

And the only possible way they could get out without being seen is down these back stairs to the alley.

[Pam North]

Well, this is the ground floor.

[Jerry North]

And that must be the door to the alley.

[Pam North]

You see anyone? Look, a car. Come on. He is pulling away.

[Jerry North]

Hey, you.

[Pam North]

Stop. Stop. Oh, gone.

[Jerry North]

154363. 154363. Jerry, the license number of that car. It's 15436. Holy smoke. Oh, it was driving. That car was in a big hurry.

[Pam North]

Oh, yeah. He almost hit you, Jerry. You suppose that car could have been following the first one?

[Jerry North]

I don't know. Let's go back in the hotel and call the police. This is getting to be too much for me. Could I give you a lift Back to town, Mr. Ross? Who. Who are you? My name is Grimes. Grimes? Fred Grimes? Oh, yes. Charles told me about you. You're the man who I left my car running right over there. It's pretty old. It isn't anything like the one you just pushed into the bay, but mighty lonely spot. You'd never get a taxi. What are you doing here? I was at your hotel. I saw what you put in that car. Why did you kill him, Mr. Ross? I didn't kill him. I. No need to get excited, Mr. Ross. A knife in the back wasn't any more than Charles Wyatt preserved. And the bottom of the bay is as good a grave as any for his kind. What do you want, Grimes? Suppose we talk about that on the way back to town. Kind of chilly out here. All right, let's go. Here we are. Get in, Mr. Ross. You know, Mr. Ross, I lost nearly 10,000 in Mr. Wyatt's company. I never thought I'd see a dime of it again. But now, if you think you're going to get $10,000 out of me, Grimes you're as crazy as Wyatt told me you were. Murder's a mighty serious crime, Mr. Ross. But I didn't kill Wyatt. You think the police will believe that if I tell them what I saw? Of course you don't. All right, Grimes. How much will it take to keep quiet? I told you, I lost nearly 10,000. I haven't got that kind of money. I'll give you 5,000, not a penny more. 5,000 isn't. Take it or leave. I mean it. All right, Mr. Rouse, I'll take it. And that's all you'll ever get, you understand? I warn you, Grimes, you push me too far. What's so funny? I was just thinking. You're the second man who's warned me tonight. Mr. Wyatt was the first, and look where he. Wigan speaking. Will you check that license number? Okay. Give me the registration.

[Pam North]

What time is it now, Jerry?

[Jerry North]

Right. Nearly 9:30.

[Pam North]

Play's been on an hour.

[Jerry North]

Oh, heaven's sake, Pam, forget the play. I haven't even had a chance to go down the hall and talk to hogs. Yeah, I got it. Thanks. Well, we know who that car was registered to.

[Pam North]

Who? They are.

[Jerry North]

A man named Charles Wyatt. Who's he? Well, this is who he is. Right here on the front page of tonight's paper.

[Pam North]

Investment broker gets five to ten years for fraud.

[Jerry North]

Are you sure this is the same Charles Wyatt, though? Positive. This suite belongs to his attorney, Gordon Ross.

[Pam North]

I wonder if it go if it was Gordon Ross's body we saw.

[Jerry North]

It could have been, I suppose, but that's. No, I know it wasn't, Bill. How do you know? Jerry, Here's a picture of Charles Wyatt on the second page.

[Pam North]

Jerry's right, Bill. This is the man whose body we saw.

[Jerry North]

You sure? No question about it. Well, at least we know who was killed, even if we don't know who killed him. Come along.

[Pam North]

Where? Bill?

[Jerry North]

I'm going over to Charles Wyatt's home, and I want you two with me.

[Pam North]

Hello?

[Jerry North]

Hello, Helen. This is Gordon. Is Charles there?

[Pam North]

Charles? No, isn't he with you?

[Jerry North]

He left my hotel some time ago. He said he's going home to pack.

[Pam North]

Pack? What are you talking about?

[Jerry North]

I thought you knew. Charles told me. He's clearing out. Jumping his bail and running away rather than go to prison.

[Pam North]

What kind of a story are you trying to hand me, Gordon?

[Jerry North]

What do you mean?

[Pam North]

Charles isn't the kind of man who'd run away, and you know it.

[Jerry North]

You think I'm lying?

[Pam North]

Yes.

[Jerry North]

Why? Why should I?

[Pam North]

I don't know, but I. There's someone at the door. I'll call you back. Are you at the hotel?

[Jerry North]

No, I better call you. Well, are you Mrs. Wyatt? Mrs. Charles wyatt?

[Pam North]

Yes.

[Jerry North]

Lieutenant wigan, homicide.

[Pam North]

Homicide?

[Jerry North]

I want to talk to you. Come on, jerry. How do you do?

[Pam North]

Thank you.

[Jerry North]

I'm afraid I have bad news for you, Mrs. Wyatt. Your husband is dead. Dead?

[Pam North]

Oh, no. No.

[Jerry North]

I'm sorry.

[Pam North]

What happened to him? Where is he?

[Jerry North]

Mr. And Mrs. Northier saw him in a room at the King William Hotel. But a moment later, someone carried his body out.

[Pam North]

So that's it. What do you mean, Mrs. Wyatt? Gordon Roth, Charles's lawyer, just called. He tried to tell me that Charles had run away.

[Jerry North]

Where was Ross calling from?

[Pam North]

I don't know. His office, maybe. It's in the Colfax building.

[Jerry North]

Well, I'm going to get down there right away. I want to have a chat with Mr. Gordon Ross.

[Pam North]

Do you want us to come, too?

[Jerry North]

No, no, that won't be necessary. Then I want to get back to the King William and see Hobbs. Pam, come on. I'll be back after I've seen Ross. Mrs. Wyatt.

[Pam North]

All right, Lieutenant. I'll wait for you. Gordon Ross, that.

[Jerry North]

Hello, Mrs. Wyatt?

[Pam North]

Who is this?

[Jerry North]

Fred Grimes.

[Pam North]

What do you want?

[Jerry North]

Maybe I just called to offer my condolences.

[Pam North]

How do you know about Charles?

[Jerry North]

But on the other hand, maybe I called to talk business.

[Pam North]

Business?

[Jerry North]

Insurance business. Your husband must have carried quite a lot of insurance, Mrs. Wyatt.

[Pam North]

What's that to you?

[Jerry North]

A lot of insurance you'll never collect unless his body is recovered.

[Pam North]

Do you know where Charles is?

[Jerry North]

That depends on whether he had enough insurance to make it worthwhile.

[Pam North]

Would you consider $75,000 worthwhile?

[Jerry North]

Suppose you come here and talk to me about that, Mrs. Wyatt. My address is in the phone book.

[Pam North]

I can't come tonight.

[Jerry North]

You'd better, Mrs. Wyatt. When a man gets my age, his memory sort of goes back on him. By morning, I might have forgotten where your husband is. Want me to run you back to the King William, Jerry? No, thanks, Bill. That'll take you out of your way.

[Pam North]

We'll catch a taxi.

[Jerry North]

Okay. Be seeing you. Right, Bill. Well, come on, dear. I think we'll stand a better chance of catching a cab. Over. Wait, Jerry, Quick. Look in here.

[Pam North]

What in the world?

[Jerry North]

Look who just passed.

[Pam North]

Jerry. That's Mrs. Wyatt.

[Jerry North]

Right.

[Pam North]

But she told Bill she'd wait for him.

[Jerry North]

Yes, and I'm rather interested in what made her change her mind. Let's see if we can find out where she's going. Come. All right, all right. Coming. Well, Mrs. Wyatt, you. Mr. Ross. Hello, Grimes. What? What do you want? You weren't expecting me, were you? Well, I. No, you thought I was Mrs. Wyatt. You wall it. Let go of it.

[Pam North]

Let go.

[Jerry North]

What's Mrs. Wyatt coming here for? Answer me. Nothing. Nothing. You're lying. You're gonna tell her where Wyatt is. No. When I warned you not to try to push me too far, Grimes, I meant that to include not trying to double cross me. What are you going to do with that gun? I'm going to save myself $5,000. No. You're old enough to die without missing anything. Grimes. No. Kill me, please. Please don't kill me. Please. Mr. Ross, you've got to listen to me. I listened to you once tonight, Grimes. That's enough for one evening. For the rest of my life, in fact. But you. That'll be Helen Wyatt. Open the door and let her in. No. No. Open it. Go on.

[Pam North]

Hello, Mr. Grinder.

[Jerry North]

Hello, Helen.

[Pam North]

Oh, hello, Gordon.

[Jerry North]

Close the door, Grimes. Lock it.

[Pam North]

What's he doing here, Mr. Grimes?

[Jerry North]

Look, Mrs. Wyatt, I. Lock the dog, Grimes.

[Pam North]

The police are looking for you, Gordon.

[Jerry North]

The police? Why are they looking for me?

[Pam North]

They want you for Charles murder.

[Jerry North]

Charles murder? Is Charles dead? My house, sir.

[Pam North]

Holdrupt the act, Gordy. He was killed in your room. And the man wife named north saw the body.

[Jerry North]

Well, if they saw Charles body, then where is it? You see, Helen, it's difficult to prove murder without producing a victim. Especially when the alleged victim had every reason to disappear on his own volition.

[Pam North]

But Grimes knows where Charles body is.

[Jerry North]

Do you, Grimes? I, I. Obviously, he hasn't the slightest idea what you're talking about, Helen.

[Pam North]

You seem to have persuaded him quite effectively with that revolver you have in your hand. Well, I have an argument too, Gordon. It's right here in my pocket.

[Jerry North]

Put down that gun, Helen, or I'll.

[Pam North]

You're what, Gordon? Kill me. Well, before you try it, you want to be very sure that I don't take you with me.

[Jerry North]

This is the top floor plan. Mrs. Wyatt must be up here. It's the only place she could be.

[Pam North]

There's only one door up here, Jerry, and That's it.

[Jerry North]

That's Mr. Wyatt.

[Pam North]

Doorbell?

[Jerry North]

No.

[Pam North]

Well, then knock. We've got to find out. I don't hear anything, do you?

[Jerry North]

No, I haven't heard. Wait.

[Pam North]

Come back, Jerry.

[Jerry North]

It was a gunshot.

[Pam North]

Try the door.

[Jerry North]

It's locked. Open up. Open up in there.

[Pam North]

Someone's unlocking the door, Mrs. Wyatt. Jerry, look. Over by the window. He was trying to get away. I shot him.

[Jerry North]

Who is it? God.

[Pam North]

And Ross. And who are you?

[Jerry North]

My name's Grimes. Fred Grimes. Ross. You all right? Yes, yes. Just my shoulder. We better get a doctor.

[Pam North]

And the police, too. Mr. North, Gordon Ross murdered my husband.

[Jerry North]

That's not true.

[Pam North]

It is. You were afraid Charles would tell how you were implicated in the investment company fraud, so you killed him. No. And then you got rid of his body so it would look like Charles ran away.

[Jerry North]

I was the one who carried Charles out of the hotel. Yes. But I didn't kill him. He was dead when I came into my room.

[Pam North]

Then why didn't you call the police?

[Jerry North]

I was afraid that my partner, Fraud, would come out. What'd you do with Wyatt's body? He dumped it in the bay.

[Pam North]

How do you know Mr. Grimes?

[Jerry North]

I saw him. I was at the hotel. I saw him put the body in Wyatt's car. I followed him out to an old fishing dock on Staten Island. He pushed the car off the end of the dock. You better try to get in touch with Wigan, Pam.

[Pam North]

All right, George. Now, wait.

[Jerry North]

What was Grimes doing at the hotel tonight? Have you thought of that? He hated Charles. He's been hounding him for weeks. He could have killed him. I could have, but I didn't. After I saw him and Mrs. Wyatt outside the Circle Lounge, I followed him when he walked over to the King William Hotel. And that's the last I saw of him. Wait a minute. You say Charles Wyatt walked from the Circle Lounge to the King William, Grimes? Yes. And Where'd you go, Mrs. Wyatt?

[Pam North]

I came straight home.

[Jerry North]

Well, if you came straight home and your husband walked to the hotel, how did Gordon Ross get hold of your husband's car? I took Charles car keys and went out looking for it. The car was parked outside the hotel. But how did it get there? That's what I want to know.

[Pam North]

Oh, I see what you mean, Jerry. If Charles Wyatt walked to the hotel, then someone else must have driven the car and left it there.

[Jerry North]

And logically, who would that have been? You, Mrs. Wyatt.

[Pam North]

If you're trying to say that I killed Charles, you're crazy. I had no reason to kill him.

[Jerry North]

How about his insurance?

[Pam North]

Well, Mrs. Wyatt. No. No, I didn't kill Charles.

[Jerry North]

Then how do you explain your car being at the hotel? Say, I don't know.

[Pam North]

Look out, Jerry.

[Jerry North]

Come back in.

[Pam North]

She's trying to get out the window. Grab her. I've got a. Let me go. I don't want to live anymore. I just want to die. Come away from me.

[Jerry North]

There. Put the window down for me.

[Pam North]

Why did you stop me? What's left for me? I'm going to lose everything. My house, my jewelry. So you did kill your husband for his insurance. I had to. Don't you understand? I had to. My whole life was going to be ruined, Charles. Insurance was all that was left. That was my only chance. So I followed Charles to Gordon's room. I had to do it. Why did you leave the car at the hotel? When I left the hotel, I couldn't find my keys. I must have dropped him somewhere. I didn't dare go back. So I took a taxi home. Shall I call Bill now, Jerry?

[Jerry North]

Yes, Pam, you can call him. What? I see. Yes, I understand.

[Pam North]

Gary. Gary. Goodbye.

[Jerry North]

Of all the stupid.

[Pam North]

What's the matter, dear?

[Jerry North]

The room clerk at the King William Hotel thought I was asking for a Mr. Cobbs room when we were there. And Hobbs isn't even registered.

[Pam North]

Oh, well, never mind that now. I just looked at our theater tickets and guess what?

[Jerry North]

What?

[Pam North]

They're for tomorrow night.

[Jerry North]

Huh?

[Pam North]

Look at the date on them. January 31st.

[Jerry North]

But this is the 31st.

[Pam North]

Oh, no, darling, it's the 30th. So we can see the play tomorrow night.

[Jerry North]

Well, that explains it.

[Pam North]

It explains what, dear?

[Jerry North]

Why Hobbs isn't registered at the King William. His letter said he'd be in town the evening of the 31st.

[Pam North]

Oh, Jerry, you mean you have to see him tomorrow night?

[Jerry North]

Yes, but don't worry. We can leave home early, stop by the King William. What are you doing, dear?

[Pam North]

I'm calling the theater to reserve another ticket.

[Jerry North]

Another ticket?

[Pam North]

Who for? For Mr. Hobbs, dear. I'm not going to take a chance of missing that play tomorrow night.

[Jerry North]

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[Jerry North]

win. Mr. And Mrs. North, starring Joseph Curtin and Alice Frost. Listen as Pam and Jerry solve the mystery. The premature corpse. It's a beautiful night in New York. Clear, fresh and in the snug apartment of Ferdy Hathaway. Warm. A night for music, for friendship, for love. And Shirley Hollis seems to have this last on her mind as she snuggles up to Ferdy on the sofa.

[Pam North]

Oh, Ferdie. I was just getting comfortable.

[Jerry North]

I'm afraid I'll have to ask you to run along, Shirley. Some people are coming over in a little while.

[Pam North]

Will they be here long?

[Jerry North]

I don't know. It's business. He's Jerry north, the publisher. They're going to discuss a book I've written.

[Pam North]

Well, I'll wait till they leave. I want to talk to you, too.

[Jerry North]

I.

[Pam North]

Come here.

[Jerry North]

What do you want?

[Pam North]

Put. Your honor.

[Jerry North]

Now, look, Shirley.

[Pam North]

Then I will, then. Hello, fairness.

[Jerry North]

It's getting awfully warm in here.

[Pam North]

Yes, isn't it?

[Jerry North]

I.

[Pam North]

Yes. Birdie, Is this what you want? Oh, yes, darling. That's just what I want. Now, that didn't hurt, did it?

[Jerry North]

You little cheat. My brother's wife. What do you want with me?

[Pam North]

No, I don't love Doug.

[Jerry North]

I knew it when you married him. But you loved his money. I tried to tell him, but he wouldn't listen.

[Pam North]

I don't know why. You've always hated me.

[Jerry North]

Because you're a little cheat. You married Doug for his money. And now.

[Pam North]

Yes, now what? What do I want with you? You don't have money.

[Jerry North]

You want something.

[Pam North]

I want you, that's all. Can't you see that, Ferdy? It's always been.

[Jerry North]

That's what you want me to think. But I know you. It's just another one of your schemes. I wouldn't put it past you even to try to get me to. To get rid of Doug for you. Now that you have his money. Is that what you want?

[Pam North]

Oh, poor suspicious Birdie.

[Jerry North]

You didn't answer my question.

[Pam North]

I know why you don't like me, Ferdie. It's not. Doug has nothing to do with Doug.

[Jerry North]

You still do.

[Pam North]

That stuffy superiority of yours. That stuffy righteousness. You're a Hathaway, and I was just a chorus girl. That's why you didn't want Doug to marry me. That's why you think you're too good for me.

[Jerry North]

You're a cheat.

[Pam North]

That Hathaway superiority. Well, how about that? I suppose he's not a cheat.

[Jerry North]

What are you talking about?

[Pam North]

I'm talking about your brother. A Hathaway, a crook. That's a lie. You know it isn't. Well, maybe you don't. Maybe you've blinded yourself with that phony righteousness of yours until you can't see what's going on right in front of you.

[Jerry North]

What do you mean, what's going on?

[Pam North]

You say I married Doug for his money. Well, how did he make that money, huh? The Hathaway fortune business sure. Business. Some business. Black market in the wartime.

[Jerry North]

You're crazy.

[Pam North]

It so happens I can prove it. And that's not all I can prove. If I have to, I know enough about Doug to send him to jail. How would you like that? A Hathaway in jail. Get out of here. Why don't you stop kidding yourself, Birdie? For your grandfather was Colonel Hathaway. You're just a hack writer. Your brother's a crook. Come on, off that high horse. You're no better than I am and know us. We could be friends. Good friends.

[Jerry North]

Never.

[Pam North]

Come on, Birdie.

[Jerry North]

Look at me, you cheap lion. Dirty.

[Pam North]

I'm not taking any more of that. I tried to be nice. I don't want it that way. All right. Hey, those nails are sorry, and so am I. You're asking for this.

[Jerry North]

Put down that poker.

[Pam North]

I will. On your head. No, no. You don't dislike me. Have it how you're.

[Jerry North]

I haven't stopped. Don't try biting again or I'll make sure you don't have any teeth left to bite with.

[Pam North]

Now, come on. Cross that poker. All right.

[Jerry North]

And now get out of here. I better get cleaned up before the Norths get here. What's so funny?

[Pam North]

You're always concerned about impressions, aren't you, Ferdy? Well, brother, I promise you, you're gonna make a beautiful. The more I think about it, Jerry, the more I think his sister will have to be killed too.

[Jerry North]

What?

[Pam North]

But not shot. I think strangling would be better.

[Jerry North]

What on earth are you talking about? That.

[Pam North]

About Mr. Hathaway's book. Of course. What did you think?

[Jerry North]

I didn't know. The way you start a subject out of a clear blue sky.

[Pam North]

It wasn't a clear blue sky. It was a murky green elevator. And it's in Mr. Hathaway's building. So I. I should think you'd know what I meant.

[Jerry North]

I see. Well, let's go tell Mr. Hathaway the sister ought to be strangled. I'm sure he'll love the suggestion. It'll mean rewriting three chapters, but it'll make a story much stronger in one woman's opinion.

[Pam North]

Well, did that. Golly. What was that?

[Jerry North]

Sounded like it came from the apartment at the end of the hall.

[Pam North]

Carri. It's a halfway department.

[Jerry North]

I wonder what.

[Pam North]

Oh, thank heaven, someone's come help me. What's the matter with.

[Jerry North]

Oh, it's all.

[Pam North]

I tried to kiss him, but I wouldn't let him. He hit me. Dresses all torn.

[Jerry North]

He's just trying to embarrass me. Mr. North, why would you try to do that? Kind of hard to explain.

[Pam North]

You maniac. Stop it, Shirley. Did you hit her, Mr. Hathaway? Her face looks bruised.

[Jerry North]

Well, yes, I. I guess I did.

[Pam North]

But why?

[Jerry North]

Well, because she bit me.

[Pam North]

Stop it, Shirley. It's just. Enough.

[Jerry North]

If you don't have that out, Shirley, I'm gonna have to hit you again.

[Pam North]

Mr. Noto, don't let him hit me.

[Jerry North]

He won't. Now come on, let's go in and see what this is all about.

[Pam North]

No.

[Jerry North]

No.

[Pam North]

I want to go home. I want to see Doug. I want my dog. Doug. Doug. It was awful. When I wouldn't let him make love to me, he. Well, he got like crazy. He said all kinds of awful things about you and me.

[Jerry North]

All right, Shirley, forget it. It's over.

[Pam North]

I can't. Doug, I. I'm afraid. He said he'd see you in jail.

[Jerry North]

What?

[Pam North]

That's right. He said you were crook. And you can prove it?

[Jerry North]

Heard he said that?

[Pam North]

Yes. He started talking about your tie up with gambling.

[Jerry North]

How does he know about that?

[Pam North]

I don't know. But he said he's going to make sure you get what's coming to you.

[Jerry North]

Unless.

[Pam North]

Unless I. Oh, Doug, I can not even to save you. I can't.

[Jerry North]

All right, sweetheart, you won't have to. I can handle Ferdy.

[Pam North]

Oh, he'll deny it. Maybe he'll make up some story.

[Jerry North]

Don't worry.

[Pam North]

If you don't believe me, you can ask the North Face.

[Jerry North]

I believe you, Shirley.

[Pam North]

I. I hate. Hate to have to tell you this about your own brother.

[Jerry North]

David. Yeah, my brother. My dear, sanctimonious brother. We'd just like him to keep his threat and run to the police. Now that he knows about me, I've got to figure some way to shut him up.

[Pam North]

But how?

[Jerry North]

I'll think of something. And one thing's for sure. He's going to keep away from you. Or I promise you, surely I'll kill him.

[Pam North]

What's the matter, Ferdy? Don't you like this restaurant?

[Jerry North]

Sure.

[Pam North]

Laura, you're not eating?

[Jerry North]

I'm not hungry. Laura, I've got to tell you something. I don't know how to begin. Laura.

[Pam North]

Yes? Hurting.

[Jerry North]

I love you, Laura. You know that.

[Pam North]

For someone who says he doesn't know how to begin, I'd say you're doing fine.

[Jerry North]

I only hope you believe what I'm going to tell you. My sister in law, Doug's wife Shirley, came over to my place last night. Yes? She made a play for me.

[Pam North]

What?

[Jerry North]

She tried to get me to make love to her when I wasn't interested, she blew her top.

[Pam North]

The woman scorns.

[Jerry North]

More than that. She doesn't want me. She wants to use me.

[Pam North]

Use you? What, fool?

[Jerry North]

I'm not sure, but, well, you know she only married Doug for his money. Yes, I think she wants to get rid of Doug. I think you want me to help

[Pam North]

her get rid of him. Or how?

[Jerry North]

How? Kill him.

[Pam North]

Oh, no, Fred.

[Jerry North]

You don't know Shirley like I do. Yeah, Laura, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what she wants.

[Pam North]

Well, why are you telling me this?

[Jerry North]

Because I think Shirley's gonna try to go through with it with or without my help. So I've gotta warn Doug.

[Pam North]

Well, I still don't feel he's not

[Jerry North]

gonna want to believe me. Especially because she's probably filled him full of lies. But I. I may be able to convince him. I've got to. Maybe if I tell him some of the things she said about. Beside the point. The point is she's gonna be afraid I may convince him. So she's gonna try to shut me up, huh? I told you about last night. Yeah, well, she's already turned that around to make it look like I attacked her.

[Pam North]

Oh, yeah.

[Jerry North]

I bet she poured it on Hetty to Doug. That's why I wanted to get to you first. I wanted you to hear this story from me, the way it really happened.

[Pam North]

I see.

[Jerry North]

Because you've got to believe me, Laura. I can't let her break us up. And she's gonna try. I know she is. If she can't shut me up one way, she'll try another. There's nothing she won't stop at to get what she wants. But it's not going to work. At least I hope it's not.

[Pam North]

Hello?

[Jerry North]

Hello, Jerry. This Bill wagon. Oh, yes, Bill. How are you? Okay. Say, Jerry, what can you tell me about Ferdy Hathaway? Hathaway? I'm considering publishing a book he wrote. Why does he want to go to your office and do research on how the homicide squad works? No, no, it's the other way around. What do you mean? Oh, we gotta see him. And it's not research. This is the real thing. You mean he killed somebody? Oh, that's the other way around, too. Somebody killed him.

[Pam North]

Run. Gary, I'm all ready. Let's go.

[Jerry North]

Pam, it hasn't been two minutes since I hung up the phone and you asked me to tell Bill we couldn't possibly to get over to see him for at least an hour.

[Pam North]

Oh, we're not Going to see Bill?

[Jerry North]

We're not. No, but, darling, he wants to talk to us. I told him about the incident last night and he wants all the details.

[Pam North]

Oh, we'll tell him later.

[Jerry North]

All right, dear. But if we're not going to to see Bill right now, where are we going?

[Pam North]

To see Laura, of course.

[Jerry North]

Oh, yes, of course, Laura. That's a good idea.

[Pam North]

I thought you'd agree, darling.

[Jerry North]

There's just one thing, though.

[Pam North]

Oh, what's that, dear?

[Jerry North]

Who in blazes is Laura?

[Pam North]

Oh, you know Jerry.

[Jerry North]

I do?

[Pam North]

Laura Arnold, Freddy Hathaway's girlfriend. Don't you remember? He mentioned her last night. He was afraid that she might hear about Shirley's accusation and might believe him.

[Jerry North]

Oh, that's right.

[Pam North]

And if she did believe it, it might make her angry.

[Jerry North]

And you think it might have made her angry enough to commit murder?

[Pam North]

Well, you never know. At least it's worth checking up on. As long as Bill wants us to give him information, maybe we can take him more than he counted on. Yes? Are you Laura Arnold? Yes. Well, I'm Pamela north, and this is my husband, Jerry North. Oh, the publisher. I've heard Freddie mention you. What do you want with me? We'd like to talk to you, if we may. Well, I'm. I'm pretty busy right now.

[Jerry North]

We'll only take a few minutes.

[Pam North]

Well, all right. Come in. What's it, about 30? What about him?

[Jerry North]

I'm afraid you're in for a bad shock, Ms. Arnold.

[Pam North]

He's been murdered. Is that what you're trying to tell me?

[Jerry North]

Why do you ask that?

[Pam North]

He said surely wouldn't stop at anything so. Well, naturally, I've been afraid.

[Jerry North]

When did he tell you that?

[Pam North]

Today at lunch. And that's the last you saw of him? Yes. I came home right afterward about one. I've been here ever since.

[Jerry North]

Well, that's funny. When we asked if you were in just before we came up, the desk clerk said you got in only about 20 minutes ago.

[Pam North]

Well, I. Mr. North, I'm frightened. I don't know what to do. Maybe we can help you if you tell us the truth. That's the truth. I did have lunch with Ferdie. He told me about Shirley. Then we went back to his place and talked a while and I left. But about an hour later, I realized I'd left my gloves up there. So I went back and there he was on the floor, dead. I'll never forget how he looked. I don't want to think about it.

[Jerry North]

You'd better sit down, Miss Arnold. There are a Couple of things I'd still like to ask you. Because if we're going to help you, we'll have to know what we're doing. She says she was afraid you'd suspect her, Bill. That's why she wouldn't give a name when she phoned that she discovered the murder. And why she ran out before you got there, huh? Well, I'll get around to her later. After I've had a talk with Hathaway's brother and the brother's wife.

[Pam North]

Find out if they own a yellow convertible. Bill.

[Jerry North]

Yes, that's right. Ms. Arnold says that a yellow convertible pulled away from in front of Purdy's place just as she arrived the second time. Did she know the make? No, she said she never saw one like it. It was very long and low and

[Pam North]

it had a funny shaped back, kind of like. Well, the way she described it, it must look something like. Like the back of that car parked right in front of us.

[Jerry North]

Hey, Pam, that is, the car fits a description to a T. And it's parked right in front of Douglas Hathaway's apartment. Let's go in and see what he has to say about it. I know you have your job to do, Lieutenant, but is it necessary to question me now? After all, it's quite a shock hearing my brother's been murdered. Well, suppose we question your wife. And from what I hear about last night, I don't imagine his death should make her too unhappy.

[Pam North]

I didn't kill him, if that's what you're implying.

[Jerry North]

I'm not implying anything. I just want to ask you some questions.

[Pam North]

I suppose you want to know where I was. Well, I was right here. I've been home all day long. Was your husband with you? No, he was at the office. Mrs. Norris, nobody was with you here. Nobody saw you. The servants did. Part of the time anyway. And part of the time not. Doug, are you going to let them forget?

[Jerry North]

No. Look, Lieutenant, I can't take this now. I don't feel up to questions and I certainly don't intend to sit by while you badger Shirley. Well, let's clear up the matter of the car at least. What about the car? Did you drive it to work this morning? Couldn't. It's brand new. It wasn't delivered until noon. Then you didn't have it with you at the office? I just told you. All right, all right, you didn't have it. And you, Mrs. Hathaway, you didn't go out at all.

[Pam North]

How many times do I have to tell you?

[Jerry North]

Then who did have the car?

[Pam North]

Nobody. The salesman delivered it, left it out front, and it's been there all afternoon.

[Jerry North]

If you want to get by with a story like that, you should get a car that's not quite so distinctive.

[Pam North]

What do you mean?

[Jerry North]

Tell her, Jerry. Well, Mrs. Hathaway, it so happens your car was seen driving away from your brother in law's right after the murder. And with a custom job like that, there can be no mistake.

[Pam North]

Well, I. There it is.

[Jerry North]

I don't. All right, Lieutenant, I had the car. Oh, you did, Hathaway? Yes, I did. I came home from the office early and picked it up. Went to see Ferdy, but I didn't kill him. Why'd you go there? I wanted to talk to him, but there was a man with him. What I had to say was private. Family matter. Didn't care to discuss it in front of a stranger, so I left. Who was the stranger? Ferdy didn't introduce us. I was only there a minute. What did he look like? Tall, blond, well dressed. You'd know him if you saw him again. Yes, but. Now, that's enough questions. Not quite. I said that's enough. Now, look, look, Mr. Hathaway, I'm just trying to find out with. Say, where are you going? Call my lawyer and see if I have to put up with this. Don't answer anything until I come back. Shirley.

[Pam North]

When you know Doug better, Lieutenant, you'll know better than to try to cross him. What was that? There must be someone in there with Doug. They're fighting. Oh, shots.

[Jerry North]

Come on, Bill. There's Hathaway on the floor. He got away. Window to the terrace. I'll go see what I can find. Jerry and you stay with Hathaway and see if he's all right. Right.

[Pam North]

Doug. Oh, Doug. What happened?

[Jerry North]

He was hiding in here. Fellow I saw at Ferdy slug me with a blackjack. But I heard him and turned. Just grazed the side of my head. Yes, you've got a gash there. I put up a fight, he broke away. Ran for the window. I fired at him. Guess I missed blow. Had me kind of woozy. You're sure it's the same man you saw first? Positive. Well, I took a quick look outside. No sign of anyone now. Well, he could have crossed the terrace to another apartment or gone down the fire escape and ducked in below.

[Pam North]

But then he's still in the building.

[Jerry North]

He'll be out of it before he can do anything about it. Pam. Then what do we do? Well, first of all, Hathaway, you stop being coy and give us a detailed description of this character. Or do you still want to call your lawyer? No, Lieutenant, you win. I'll tell you whatever I can.

[Pam North]

There's your coffee, Jerry. Jerry. Jerry. Kn.

[Jerry North]

What then?

[Pam North]

Your coffee. I know you don't like it cold.

[Jerry North]

Oh, thanks.

[Pam North]

Where were you?

[Jerry North]

What?

[Pam North]

Just now. In your thoughts. You were miles away.

[Jerry North]

I was thinking about the Hathaway case. It's been three days now and no sign of the mysterious stranger.

[Pam North]

Well, maybe they'll never find him. He had time to get far away,

[Jerry North]

but I don't think he did. That's what I've been thinking about.

[Pam North]

You think you know where he is?

[Jerry North]

Maybe. Anyway, I'll bet there's one place they haven't tried yet.

[Pam North]

Where's that?

[Jerry North]

The morgue.

[Pam North]

The mall.

[Jerry North]

And somehow I have an idea it might yield results. I have to admit, that was a pretty good idea of yours, Jerry. I don't know, Bill. Wait till we see if Hathaway identifies the body. Yeah. I could be wrong, but this seemed like the logical bet. Well, here's where we find out. Here's Hathaway. Morning, gentlemen. Morning. Oh, good morning. Am I late? No, right on the nose, Hathaway. Well, should we go in and get it over with? Yes, let's. All right, ride through here. You really think it's the right man, eh, Lieutenant? Well, that's for you to say, Hathaway. He seems to fit the description you gave us. Now, here he is. Well, Hathaway, that's the man. Are you sure? Yes, Lieutenant, I'm sure. Well, Jerry, seems you were right. You know, Hathaway, this is very interesting. Now, you say you saw this man at your brother's the day your brother was. Was killed? That's right. Your brother was killed on Tuesday. But it so happens this fella died on Monday. You see, Pam, I thought that if Hathaway was lying, he'd jump at the chance to strengthen the story. So I suggested the Bill show him a corpse that approximated the description he gave us.

[Pam North]

Yes. After all, the corpse couldn't talk back.

[Jerry North]

Right. And now that we've eliminated the mysterious stranger, we can concentrate on the real suspects and build things. You wrap it up. That's why you have us down here today. Come in. Well, Pam and Jerry, how's it going? Bill? We've just started.

[Pam North]

I don't see why you had to bring them in, Lieutenant.

[Jerry North]

Because, Mrs. Hathaway, they were present when you had your unpleasantness with your brother in law.

[Pam North]

All right, we had an unpleasant scene. But it wouldn't make me kill him.

[Jerry North]

That depends on the reason for the scene, Mrs. Hathaway.

[Pam North]

I told you the reason. He tried to make love to me.

[Jerry North]

I can suggest another. Yes, Jerry? Suppose Mrs. Hathaway wanted to get rid of her husband.

[Pam North]

What do you mean?

[Jerry North]

He has a lot of money, Mrs. Hathaway. Maybe that's what you married him for. Then you tried to get Ferdy to help you kill him. And when he was.

[Pam North]

You're lying. Don't lie angry.

[Jerry North]

I believe you.

[Pam North]

Would Doug help me? You know he was lying.

[Jerry North]

Of course he was. So calm down, will you?

[Pam North]

You don't believe him, Doug.

[Jerry North]

I told you I don't. But this is no way to answer him.

[Pam North]

Yeah. Yes, you're right. But when you made me so mad.

[Jerry North]

I see I did. You have a low boiling point, Mrs. Hay. You couldn't expect her to like what you were saying, North. I didn't. You just said it to upset her. I just said it because I wanted to see if it were true. What on earth gives you the idea that it might be things that Laura Arnold told us? So that's it. Laura wouldn't you know? Why do you say that? Can't you see she's behind this whole thing? It all ties up now. I'll bet she's the one who claimed to have seen my car at Ferdy's too, wouldn't she? What if she is? Lieutenant, you said I've been trying to shield Shirley. I have. When you said my car was seen at Ferdy's, I could see Shirley. She didn't know what to say. So I stepped in and said I'd been to Ferdy's. And you hadn't? No. But I thought Shirley might have. But now that I know she wasn't. At least not at the time of the murder. How do you know that? Because now I know when the murder happened. It's been in the paper. Well? Well, I did have the car at that time, but I was nowhere near Ferdy's. So if Laura says she saw me there, she's lying. It seems to come down to your word against hers. Well, I've sent for her, too. So let's see what happens when she gets here.

[Pam North]

Oh, I don't think we'll have to wait for that, Bill. I know which one to believe.

[Jerry North]

You do, pam?

[Pam North]

Yes, Laura. Mr. Hathaway's still lying. So it looks like he's the murderer.

[Jerry North]

Don't be ridiculous. Laura says she saw my car at 30s. That means she had to be there herself.

[Pam North]

That's Just it, miss.

[Jerry North]

So naturally she's going to lie, try to place somebody else there, too.

[Pam North]

She couldn't have been lying.

[Jerry North]

Why not?

[Pam North]

You told us your car was brand new. It had been delivered just a short time before the murder.

[Jerry North]

That's right.

[Pam North]

Well, then how could Laura have described it unless she really did see it at 30? I get him.

[Jerry North]

All right, hat of the way. Sit down. Looks like you've told one lie too many. Oh, it's a beautiful day, isn't it, dear?

[Pam North]

Yes, for surely, how do we come to Shirley out of a clear blue sky? The sky is clear. And you just mentioned the weather. You see, there is a lot of.

[Jerry North]

You win, dear. Why do you say poor Sherlock?

[Pam North]

Well, it's quite obvious that she just married Doug Hathaway for his money. And now that he's caught for murders, they've broken him down about how he made his money.

[Jerry North]

His whole crooked house will come tumbling down.

[Pam North]

That's right, Jerry. And all his money is tied up.

[Jerry North]

And so poor Shirley gets nothing.

[Pam North]

Now you see what I mean, dear? Poor Shirley.

[Jerry North]

But somehow it doesn't break my heart. She knew Doug was a crook. Purdy knew, too. That's why Doug killed him, to shut him up. He claims Ferdy was always a tattletale as a kid. Hey, Pam, why are you stopping?

[Pam North]

Oh, I just want to look in this window. Look at that car, Jerry. Isn't it beautiful? It's sort of like the Hathaway's car. Oh, it must be wonderful to be able to afford a car like that.

[Jerry North]

Yeah. Even if you could, where would you ever find a parking space for it? In Manhattan?

[Pam North]

Well, if you didn't live in Manhattan.

[Jerry North]

But we do live in Manhattan and we can't afford the car anyway.

[Pam North]

No, Jerry, I. I'm just thinking. Don't you ever like to think of what it would be like to have a car like that?

[Jerry North]

I don't let myself.

[Pam North]

How do you prevent yourself?

[Jerry North]

Easy. I just walk over to the curb. Like so.

[Pam North]

Yes. And then.

[Jerry North]

Then I just shout, like so. Hey,

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