Have What It Takes with Sharon McMahon

Summary

Absolutely Not Podcast — "Have What It Takes with Sharon McMahon"
Host: Heather McMahon
Guest: Sharon McMahon
Release Date: June 12, 2026

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Overview

This episode of Absolutely Not is a lively and humorous deep dive into the intersection of politics, personal accountability, and the everyday drama of public life. Comedian Heather McMahon reconnects with political commentator and educator Sharon McMahon for a bonus conversation packed with wit, candor, and surprising practical insights. The two discuss what it actually takes to run for office, share personal stories about controversy, address public safety in the age of performative outrage, and champion the value of sensibility and "holding power to account"—all while brainstorming Heather’s hypothetical campaign for Congress. It’s an episode for anyone curious about the behind-the-scenes realities of fame, politics, and the importance of showing up authentically, with Sharon’s trademark blend of facts, fun, and tough-love optimism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What It Actually Takes to Run for Congress (00:57–04:41)

• Requirements are shockingly minimal.
  • Sharon explains that "all you have to do is be old enough and live in the state. You don't even have to live in the district you represent." (01:41)
  • There are no education, background checks, or aptitude tests: "You can be a convicted felon... People have been elected to Congress from prison." (04:08)
• Heather jokes about her own suitability, poking fun at her checkered admin skills and transparency via comedy.
  • “I’ve kind of aired all my dirty laundry through comedy, so you don’t have a lot of skeletons.” (03:07)

2. The Surreal State of Political Literacy (03:18–04:37)

• Many in Congress lack basic government knowledge.
  • Sharon: “There are actual sitting members of Congress, not a joke, who cannot name the three branches of government.” (03:26)
  • No system is in place to ensure elected officials understand their role.

3. The Power of Name Recognition & the Comedy of Campaigning (04:41–07:07)

• Why City Council Isn’t Necessary for Heather
  • Sharon: "People already [know you]. And you’re very googleable." (05:20)
• Campaign Image & Slogan Brainstorming
  • Heather: "If you don’t think that I would show up to every meeting in Congress in a full bedazzled suit… you haven’t seen a cape until you see mine." (05:26)
  • Heather’s campaign slogan: “McMahon can and she will.” (06:14)

4. “From Karens to Sharons” & Sharon’s Influence (06:20–07:12)

• Heather reveals Sharon inspired a comedy bit:
  • “The death of Karen and the birth of a new bitch named Sharon. And at the end, I say, 'My name’s Sharon McMahon and I’m running for President of the United States.'… So you have a little part in my special. Yes, I’ll send you the clip.” (06:34)
  • Sharon: “We need a bitch named Sharon.” (07:07)

5. The Commencement Speech Controversy & Billboards Saga (08:22–09:58; 14:11–19:14)

• Sharon was disinvited from a Utah university’s commencement due to political backlash, prompted by a social media post contextualizing Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
  • "I was disinvited from giving a commencement address at a school in Utah...because members of Congress and members of the Utah state legislature didn't want me to speak there." (08:38)
  • Her followers pooled funds to put up billboards: “I did not see that as an end to this saga...dozens of billboards...that just say, 'We love Sharon McMahon.'" (19:01)
  • Heather: “If you piss off somebody I don’t know in Arizona, I am happy to supply some billboards.” (19:01)
• Discussion of public safety at high-profile events and the ripple effect of online outrage.

6. Online Hate, Safety, and Accountability (29:01–33:02)

• Death threats and vitriol from public life:
  • Heather shares her Ryder Cup controversy: “I was labeled MAGA...They started trying to send me dick pics. It was a whole thing.” (20:47)
  • Sharon reveals getting C-word slurs from the spouse of an elected official: “I have had the spouse, the male spouse of a female elected official DM me horrible things before.” (30:49)
  • Sharon’s approach: Notifies the man’s charitable boards rather than engaging publicly: “A lot of these people involved in charities for children realize that as well.” (32:25)
• Key Insight:
  • Heather: “This is why we need Sharon’s instead of Karen’s...You did it smart. Sharon went...She slid it under the bed.” (32:41)

7. Humor, Campaign Strategy, and Sensible Platforms (21:47–23:01; 22:09–23:32)

• Mock campaign managers and publicist brainstorming:
  • Heather floats Tiffany Pollard and then agrees with Sharon’s suggestion: “Tree Pain is who you need as a campaign manager.” (23:01)
  • Blend of campaign satire and real advice: “For me, my platform’s going to be sensible. It’s going to be for everyone.” (22:25)
• Inclusivity & Allyship:
  • “I am an ally. I’m an ally for the dolphins. I’m an ally for the spray tans. I’m an ally for the things.” (23:39)

8. Realities of Public Speaking, Security, and ‘Fandom’ (28:28–31:04)

• Security is a real concern for both comedians and public figures.
  • Heather recounts naked dressing room encounters and hecklers; Sharon discusses event-level security.
  • Sharon: “I found you. That’s not the vibe.” (29:58)

9. Accountability & Protecting Kids (32:41–34:13)

• Sharon takes action to protect children by reporting inappropriate conduct to relevant organizations.
  • “You don’t get to be both (a man saying vile things to women and working with children).” (33:56)
• The importance of real accountability, not just performative ‘calling out’.

10. The Laughing Optimism of ‘You Have What It Takes’ (34:08–37:33)

• Sharon reassures Heather she really does have what it takes to run:
  • “You actually do have what it takes. You know more about government than the average person already.” (34:08)
• Behind-the-scenes rookie Congress tips:
  • Congress “boot camp” for new members.
  • The ‘munch pile’ tradition—curating snacks from your home state for office goodwill and intern barter: “Your office becomes the cool place.” (36:47)
  • For Heather: “I want to be the house with the good Halloween candy...That's how I'm going to go in there and change the world.” (36:20, 37:12)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On congressional requirements:

"You can be a convicted felon... People have been elected to Congress from prison."
— Sharon McMahon, (04:08)

On why Heather could run:

“You know more about government than a lot of people in Congress, Heather, and that is a huge asset.”
— Sharon, (03:19)

On the 'death of Karen':

"The death of Karen and the birth of a new bitch named Sharon... My name’s Sharon McMahon and I’m running for President of the United States."
— Heather, (06:34)

On holding power to account:

“People would vote for somebody who is actually attempting to hold power to account. That is the vibe into this moment.”
— Sharon, (05:51)

On handling online hate:

"Stop DMing women the C word when your wife is an elected official and you're using your government name."
— Sharon, (31:34)

On political platforms:

“For me, my platform's gonna be sensible. It's gonna be for everyone. And I think maybe we could workshop some things offline.”
— Heather, (22:25)

On Congress rookie tips:

"You get to choose which snacks represent you...your summer interns can go around and they can trade and they come back to your office, and then...your office becomes the cool place."
— Sharon, (36:08–36:47)

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Noteworthy Segments with Timestamps

• [00:57–04:41] – What it really takes to run for Congress
• [06:20–07:12] – The transition from “Karens” to “Sharons”
• [08:22–09:58, 14:11–19:14] – Sharon’s commencement speech controversy and billboard saga
• [28:28–34:13] – Security, hate online, and real-world consequences of public life
• [34:08–37:33] – Confidence, real-world campaign tips, and the importance of snacks

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Final Takeaways

• Running for office is technically easy, but being good at it requires real sensibility, integrity, and willingness to stand up for others—qualities both hosts champion, tongue-in-cheek.
• Public life attracts both vitriol and passionate support; navigating both demands humor, boundaries, and accountability.
• The best leaders are the ones willing to hold power to account, embrace transparency, and serve with empathy and practicality—plus, memorably, those who bring good snacks.

This episode is a laugh-out-loud but genuinely insightful look at the absurdities and possibilities in politics and public influence, driven by Heather’s sharp humor and Sharon’s clear-eyed optimism. Perfect for anyone who thinks political commentary could use more sparkle and common sense.

Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear media production.

[B]

Welcome to the Absolutely Not Podcast, where we do the most and the least at the same damn time. I'm your host, Heather McMahon. I wanna start a fire. Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the absolutely not PODC. Such an incredible sit down with the iconic Sharon McMahon that I said, you know what? We have so much footage. We've got to extend this episode, and I want to give you a little bonus episode today of more of the things that we talked about. So if you enjoyed our conversation before, you're going to love this continuation of the conversation. She's freaking amazing. She's doing the most, and she is just such a light in these crazy times. Please, again, welcome to the studio Sharon McMahon. Knowing me for the last, I don't know, hour, what office do you think that I could actually take a swing at? Let's just do a hypothetical, a fun hypothetical.

[A]

You absolutely could run for Congress.

[B]

You think?

[A]

Oh, 100%. You could definitely run for Congress.

[B]

And how would I go about doing that? Just hypothetically?

[A]

It's not hard.

[B]

It's not hard.

[A]

It's not hard. It's filling out papers.

[B]

Oh, okay. I'm good at admin. Slightly not great.

[A]

You have an assistant.

[B]

If I took an Adderall, I could do it.

[A]

You have an assistant who can fill out the papers for you.

[B]

You have to get drug tested to be in Congress.

[A]

No, no, you don't have to be. You can be a felon. You can. There's nothing. I'm not. I'm not saying you're a felon. No, no, no.

[B]

I'm not sure you're not. I've so far knock on what, you know, street legal.

[A]

Yep, yep, yep. There's no, you know, all you have to do is be old enough and.

[B]

Sure am.

[A]

And be a. Be, you know, like, if you were going to run for Congress, like Marjorie Taylor Green.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

All you have to do is live in the state you represent. You don't even have to live in the district you represent.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

No. You can. If you live in, you know, Georgia House District 4, you can. You can file to run in Georgia House District 9.

[B]

So is my best bet to just find the best district? Like, do I go out? I don't outskirt. I find where most of my white women are hanging out, like the mahjong groups. I find where they visit or they hang out most. And then I just am like, this is my district.

[A]

That's what Lauren Boebert has done. She used to represent a different district in Colorado. And then when, you know, the lines got moved around and whatever, she's like, you know what? I'm switching this one over here because I got a better chance of getting elected in that one. So she moved Colorado House districts.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because she felt like she was gonna have a better chance of getting elected by those people. Wow. So again, there's only the requirement that you live in the state. That's okay.

[B]

Well, I do live in the state.

[A]

Yeah. So you can easily just pick whatever district you feel like you have the best chance of getting elected in.

[B]

Okay, fantastic. This is really good to know.

[A]

Are you interested in running for Congress?

[B]

You know, I've been asked by high level people before.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Swear to God, I was at a dinner and I had two gals who I love and adore and their family's been in politics, and they're like, you gotta run for something in Georgia. And I said originally, I said, I don't want to fight Marjorie Taylor Greene, but I said, now she might be on my team. I don't know. You know? No, I think it would be interesting down the line, you know, And I've kind of aired all my dirty laundry

[A]

through comedy, so you don't have a lot of skeletons.

[B]

I don't like.

[A]

Go ahead and watch Netflix and you'll find out what you need to know.

[B]

Exactly. Exactly. And so I don't know. I think it would be interesting.

[A]

Guess what? You already know.

[B]

I know about it, but I don't know.

[A]

You know a lot more about government than a lot of people in Congress, Heather, and that is a huge asset.

[B]

I needed that confidence boost.

[A]

You do. Like, there are actual sitting members of Congress, not a joke, who cannot name the three branches of government. I'm sorry, that's a fact. Because they have named them incorrectly on television before.

[B]

And why is there no checks and balances? Is it because you said earlier, like, we have the three branches because they're supposed to be checks and balances and they're supposed to uphold each other. But because of what's going on in Congress and because of how fearful everyone is with this administration, it's just like, who's running the judge?

[A]

There's no legal requirement that anybody know the three branches of government. There's no legal requirement for any member of Congress to know anything about anything.

[B]

You don't have to take it like an aptitude test. No, no. A basic social studies Q and A.

[A]

No.

[B]

No.

[A]

Nothing. Nothing whatsoever. You can be a convicted felon. You can. People have been elected to Congress from Prison. Heather from actual prison, elected to Congress from prison.

[B]

Kind of love that, though, because I want somebody who's. Who's seen some shit. You know, you got a fire under ass for change if you're like, hey, you had no idea what was going on in my cell.

[A]

My cell was like a log cabin in Vermont and it was real cold and there was not adequate heat. And you know, I'm running for Congress. That's actually happened before.

[B]

Wow. So you think Congress, though, over. Okay, I'm going Congress.

[A]

Congress is easier to get into.

[B]

I just started city council, though. I'm happy to work my way up. No, no, you go. You say I go full Congress.

[A]

That's right. What. What are you going to do with city council, Heather?

[B]

What am I going to do?

[A]

Yeah. No, you, you.

[B]

Oh my God. Hang out in a dusty office in the city.

[A]

I don't think. I mean, this is absolutely no shade to city council members. They actually do incredibly important work. Very important work.

[B]

Very much out of respect for.

[A]

But one of the reasons you start small and sort of work up is again, to build that name recognition of like, oh, you remember Sharon? She was on the city council, you know, like, and I sort of get bigger and bigger in the minds of the constituency. You don't need to do that.

[B]

No, because I already have a little

[A]

name recognition people already. And you're very googleable. People have never heard of you. They're like, oh, her, her, her.

[B]

I write a woman in an animal. And if you don't think that I would show up to every meeting in Congress in a full bedazzled suit. Oh, you think Marjorie Taylor Greene had a cape? You haven't seen a cape. Do you see mine? And I will have People magazine and like, architectural diaries.

[A]

Find your mumu.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh huh, yeah. Show me your mumu.

[A]

We'll make you show me your mumu.

[B]

Yep. They will make me outfits and I will have very respectable magazines with me and I will cause a scene.

[A]

And frankly, people would vote for that. Honestly, people would vote for that. They would vote for somebody who is actually attempting to hold power to account. That that is the vibe into this moment. And that is again, what Spencer Pratt is bringing to the table. Again, I'm not saying he should or shouldn't be mayor, but I'm saying, like, the people who like him, that is who he embodies in their mind is somebody who's holding power to account.

[B]

My campaign slogan is already written. McMahon can and she will. I love it. And I have to tell you Something that I.

[A]

It's better than a silent hoe.

[B]

Yeah, you got a silent hoe. I didn't know if I was going to reveal this to you, but I think I should. So I have a thing in. And I'm about to shoot my third special where I talk. Because I started the trend of Karen's. I started that years ago. Like, I kind of came up with that, and it went viral.

[A]

Okay, Karen.

[B]

Okay, Karen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So now I have a bit in my new hour about how we need to get back to sensibility and, like, what that moderate woman was thinking where it's like, we gotta quit being Karen's and get back. And I say, the death of Karen and the birth of a new bitch named Sharon. And at the end, I say, My name's Sharon McMahon and I'm running for President of the United States. And it's loosely based off you. The name just came to me because when I started following you, I was like, she gets it. Sharon is speaking my language. She gets it. So you have a little part in my. In my special. Yes, I'll send you the clip.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

But it's a whole thing where I talk about, like, what my platform I would run on. And it's. I'm like, a very.

[A]

Listen, we need a bitch named Sharon. We need a chance at this point. We absolutely do. Like, that is absolutely Sharon what we need.

[B]

So I will. When it is all said and done, I will send it to you. But I need you to know that I'm telling everyone we got to shift from being Karen's and go to Sharon.

[A]

That is amazing. Listen, I'll take it.

[B]

You're a sensible gal.

[A]

I'm a sensible gal.

[B]

Whole home generator.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

But you're also like, listen, you know, there needs to be some checks and balances.

[A]

That's right. These are not. I'm not asking for anything weird.

[B]

I don't think you're getting crazy. I'm not asking for anything weird.

[A]

These are all things that we're like, yeah, you know, we should do that. I'm not asking to get, you know, a $300 million airplane from a foreign government. I'm not asking to have my face put on a bunch of arches anywhere. Like, I'm asking for normal things, like things that are already in the Constitution.

[B]

Right.

[A]

This is. These are not, like, weird ideas that I came up with.

[B]

I would maybe like a statue. I will say once I get to the level that I get to, it would be kind of nice. Now maybe it's just, you know, in Georgia. But I do get the statue.

[A]

I can, I, I can see you on a statue someday, Heather. I don't need it. I did, however, I did recently have a large number of billboards. Have you, have you seen the billboards?

[B]

I have not seen the billboards.

[A]

Okay, so long story short, I recently was supposed to give a commencement address.

[B]

I'm sorry, I wanted to get into that. I'm actually so engaged with asking you questions about why the world's on fire. We need to get. Because I've had a recent cancellation as well. So what happened with your billboards and your commencement speech?

[A]

Okay, so sorry she led with that. No problem at all. Bottom line, I was disinvited from giving a commencement address at a school in Utah that I've spoken at twice before because members of Congress and members of the Utah state legislature did me to speak there. That's the bottom line. And their up the sort of uproar that they caused created big security concerns.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And so disinvited. Okay. I don't blame the university. Like they're up against. They're in between a rock and a hard place. Like. Or do they want a shooting at their commencement?

[B]

No. Right?

[A]

No. Understandably, no.

[B]

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[B]

But what were people so up in arms about over you? Who's a sensible gal?

[A]

A sensible gal like me. They were really, really mad that I had a post a few days after Charlie Kirk was assassinated explaining to people number one, people who'd never heard of him before.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Were you familiar with Charlie Kirk?

[B]

Can I be honest with you? I was not.

[A]

Okay, thank you.

[B]

Lots of people were not online between him and like Nick Fuentes and they go back and forth and Ben Shapiro and all those guys. I didn't watch any of his stuff.

[A]

Right. This is a. This was something that I heard from a lot of people who were like, maybe I've heard his name, but I'm not sure who he is.

[B]

I definitely would dial into his videos.

[A]

Why would anyone kill him?

[B]

Right?

[A]

Right. So there's a lot of people like you who are like, what is going on? Like, I don't know. Why would anyone want to shoot him?

[B]

Right.

[A]

So a lot of people like you, and then a lot of people who are big, big fans of his who felt like, why would anybody not be crying that he's dead? Yeah. Right. And by the way, I think him. Him being killed. Horrific, Horrific. Horrific, horrific. Inexcusable.

[B]

And I think there's a lot of questions behind it.

[A]

There's. People have questions. People got some questions.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Horrific, inexcusable. Absolutely no reason that that should have happened. I wholeheartedly condemn his killing, of course. But a lot of people who were big fans were like, why aren't you sad? Why aren't you sad that he's dead? They had only held him in extremely high regard. He's a good Christian. He shares the gospel. He has free speech debates with people like, they viewed him only as a positive force in the world. But a lot of people who are members of the LGBTQ community, people who are minority groups, felt targeted by him and felt like some of the things that he said were harmful.

[B]

And now. Now, in hindsight, we've all seen certain clips. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I understand both sides.

[A]

Yes. So my post was educating both of these groups of people, people like you who were like, who.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Huh. Are showing people the incredible impact he has. Like, he has, like, 20 million podcast listeners a month. That's an insane number if you work in entertainment. You know what an insane number that is?

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

Highly impactful.

[B]

Love to bump. Boost the ratings. You're absolutely not.

[A]

Yeah, 20 million per month. Yeah, that'd be fine. So giving people context about how impactful he was and then also contextualizing for people who were fans why some of what he said. Some people felt harmed by some of what he said. That was the reason they were mad. Was that post because.

[B]

Because you showed both sides.

[A]

Because I explained what the issue was,

[B]

and then they're like, burner at the

[A]

stakes because I was not. I didn't say the appropriate number of nice things about Charlie Kirk.

[B]

In their mind, it's insane.

[A]

And so that was really what it was.

[B]

And now we have Erica, who is. Where is the PR team running her ship? Because it is getting so weird each day. I'm sorry, you cannot tell me that that's a grieving widow. That's why the whole thing makes me unsettled. When I didn't even know who these people were. And then I got dialed into it. I'm just. You watch this and you're like, what is happening here? We're walking out on a stage with pyrotechnics. The whole thing gives me a bad feeling. It gives me the ick that I can't even describe.

[A]

There's a lot of people who loved Charlie and don't love what is currently happening. They feel like he was a one of one and that all of these people who are trying to continue his legacy, including his wife, including the current members of his team who are hosting his podcast, there are a lot of people who feel unsettled by, like, the fact that they're trying to. Yes, yes. And some people still love it. Obviously, some people still love exactly what they're doing. But, you know, Andrew Colvette, who is the spokesperson for tpusa, he's been hosting the Charlie Kirk podcast for a while. And, you know, there are some people who feel like, why is somebody else hosting the Charlie Kirk podcast? That's what it's called. You know? So that's how this whole cancellation came to be. I mean, we were having security meetings with, you know, discussing, do I need to wear a bulletproof vest under my graduation robe? Okay.

[B]

Like, we legitimately talking about if I can tell the youth how to go and, like, live their lives confidently when it's that kind of bullshit that you're

[A]

dealing with the situation. So immediately following this, which was really just, you know, again, a handful of elected officials who decided that I shouldn't speak at the school, a lot of people were angry that this happened to me.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And so they. I'm angry. They. Thank you. They pooled their money and took out dozens of billboards with my face on them.

[B]

And it said, let this bitch in.

[A]

It said, we love Sharon McMahon.

[B]

We do. Oh, let me see that. We got the billboard. We love Sharon McMahon. You know, I would invest if you need more in a different state, if you piss off somebody I don't know in Arizona, I am happy to supply some billboards.

[A]

Oh, I appreciate that. It just was like, I did not see that as an end to this saga of, like, dozens of billboards on the freeway between Salt Lake and Orem, where the school is located, that just say, we love Sharon McFan and a picture of my face. And that's all it says so many

[B]

things is just your. Your husband is so proud of you. You know what I mean? Like, if you didn't know, if you were just driving through and you're like a tourist, you're like, I mean, she is Popular.

[A]

Yeah, that's right, exactly.

[B]

It must be her birthday.

[A]

Who is she?

[B]

Who is she?

[A]

Who is she?

[B]

Fantastic. This is a great photo of her. Now, did you find out who the responsible party was who put these up?

[A]

Yes, I eventually did.

[B]

You know, a gift basket of fruit baskets.

[A]

I eventually did find out who did it, but not until after the billboards were up. I had no knowledge that the billboards were happening. Nobody said, hey, by the way, we're doing billboards. People started coming in my comments saying, you know, now. Now your face is all over the billboards. You know, all along the Wasatch front, you know, the mountain range in Utah. And I thought they were speaking, like, metaphorically, you know, like, now everybody knows your name.

[B]

Your name's written in the stars. No, no, you're actually by the quick trip and the pilot stop on the side of the highway. Wow. Well, at least your fans gave you a billboard. When I was getting pummeled in the press for a slip up on the international stage of the Ryder Cup, I got no billboard. What?

[A]

Okay, tell the story. Tell the viewers the story.

[B]

The viewers know the story. But basically what happened was I was hired at an event for golf, and it was an international stage and the crowd was very rowdy, and I didn't really know what I was hired for. And I started some clean ch. They were not. They did not want to be a part of that. It's 4 o' clock in the morning. It's a bunch of drunk men in Long Island. And so they started chant against one of the players. It was funny. They were saying fuck you to one of the players. I set it back in the microphone. Cause I'm a hired comic at 4 o' clock in the morning in front of a bunch of drunk men. And you would have thought that I was an insurrectionist. Like, it was crazy. That's how the Europeans were.

[A]

You need to apply for a pardon.

[B]

I need to apply for a pardon. The Europeans felt that way. And then all of a sudden I was labeled MAGA because, you know, we were on U.S. territory. And then on the other side, all the American MAGA men were like, you're one of us. And then they started and trying to send me dick pics. It was a whole thing. Yeah. So basically. And I just felt if a man had been in my position, we would never be having this conversation. But it was one of those where you were kind of damned if you do, damned if you don't. I actually said something into a microphone. You didn't. You were just like, trying to explain something so I actually feel more justification for you. And I did have to apologize, but you could have.

[A]

You know what? Here's the thing. You could just get your own billboards.

[B]

And that's what I should have done. Tina, write that down. We need to just get our own billboards.

[A]

Get your own billboards. Nobody has to know.

[B]

And I'll send a stalker. I'm like, God, you know, Carl is at it again. And I keep saying, enough with the billboards, Carl.

[A]

The Heather McMahon Fan Club keeps taking out billboards, and there's nothing I can do to stop it.

[B]

I can't stop it. They're just so die hard. They want to see me successful. They want to see me run for Congress. And I'm like, enough. This is going to be a part of my campaign. We're definitely doing billboards.

[A]

Billboards.

[B]

If you saw a fresh, long, blonde hair blowout, and it says McMahon can. And she will vote when I vote November 5th. Vote, Congresswoman.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And I'm gonna cheetah print on, like a. On a. You know, a wild hide rug, you know, and maybe there's things that I like in the background, like women's rights and Second Amendment, if you want it. I don't know. You know, I don't know. I'm a sinful gal.

[A]

There's things I like in the background,

[B]

and we just make it kind of like a Lisa Frank. Like, little pops of things that I like. You put a dolphin, like, you know, I'll support aquatic sea life. I don't know. Let's clean up the lakes.

[A]

Just.

[B]

These are just things

[A]

you can workshop which items should go in the background.

[B]

Write em off. Don't fuck with us, irs. Yeah, I mean. I mean, for me, my platform's gonna be sensible. It's gonna be for everyone. And I think maybe we could workshop some things offline.

[A]

I agree. I think so we can talk. I'll be happy to consult for your billboard campaign.

[B]

I would really love that. Anybody off the top of your mind out there in the world? I'm really putting you on the spot. That you think would be a great campaign manager?

[A]

Oh, gosh.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Could be.

[B]

I was thinking Tiffany Pollard from Flavor Flav. You know, that famous show. I'm just thinking of unhinged women. Like, I need somebody who's a little unhinged, who can. Because I'm. I'm a little.

[A]

Tree pain is who you need as a campaign manager.

[B]

Yeah, you're right. And if you don't know who Tree Pain is, she's Taylor Swift's publicist. I I think she might get a little break after the wedding too, so she may be able to work this summer.

[A]

Yeah, it's. Taylor's been on the DL for a while. She's no longer on the heiress tour.

[B]

DL? Is she gay? What do you mean on the down low? No. Got it, got it, got it. Okay. Bad jokes. Uh huh.

[A]

She.

[B]

I would love that. There are rumors but love is love and I am an ally. And what part of my campaign it will be Love who you love. Sorry.

[A]

Continue. Just FYI everybody,

[B]

but yes.

[A]

Yeah, we don't want people to clip this later and be like Heather's not an ally.

[B]

I am an ally.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

I'm an ally. I'm an ally for the dolphins. I'm an ally for the spray tans. I'm an ally for the things.

[A]

The things that are useful and needed and necessary. Right. Like checks and balances.

[B]

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[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I appreciate it.

[B]

And eventually. So who made the call that eventually said you're not going to be able to do this?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, like this just became this sort of group decision of like, it's not possible to have a safe event, you know, So I don't think

[B]

it's possible to have a safe event at a farmer's market anymore. That's the other crazy thing.

[A]

It's challenging.

[B]

How are we able, how are we not able to go into public spaces and feel safe?

[A]

I know.

[B]

That's another thing.

[A]

Yeah. When you go, okay, so tell me, like when you are doing a show at a theater, what people have to go through metal detectors to get in the show? In the show?

[B]

Yeah, they do. Yeah. We have a strong security meeting beforehand. Yeah. But my threat is really a white woman screaming something at me, you know, or I've had a couple and I'll tell you.

[A]

Hecklers.

[B]

Yeah, a couple of hecklers. That's fine. That's the nature of the beast. But it's really security backstage. I mean, these gals named Lindsay will do anything and they'll convince a security guard like, oh, I'm her cousin. That's the thing too. I tell them like, like they don't have a badge. They're not getting in because I was butt naked in my dressing room. One time I stripped down after a show and there was a woman standing in the shadows. And she was like, hey, girl. And she's like, I found you. She just said, I found you.

[A]

I found.

[B]

She was harmless and she was. She was hammered. And then I said, you sure did. And then she's like, don't worry, I'm not gonna touch you. I said, that's not what I want to hear. Like, I'm glad she said that. But also. And I was like, can I put on some panties?

[A]

You know, I'm known to you.

[B]

And I was changing, and she only just wanted to invite me on her party bus. She's like, we're going to the bar. You great show. You want to come with us? And I'm like, like, so it's really. I've never felt, knock on wood in danger, but that's a scary feeling.

[A]

Yeah, understandably. I found you. That's not. That's not the vibe.

[B]

I mean, after the Ryder Cup, I was getting death threats. Crazy stuff. My publicists were. My manager was. They were sending stuff to my country club. I mean, scary things. Then you. I can get hate online because of comedy, but when you read things or things get sent, it is terrifying. And they were threatening people in my life, like, I'm going to deal with you. Da, da, da. And you're like, what are you talking about? This is like the dumbest thing ever, right?

[A]

Like, this was this. Do you know how inconsequential this is on. In the grand scheme of things? This is like a bunch of drunk people at 4 o' clock in the morning.

[B]

But also, too, it is wild to me how people will send you a death threat from their own personal Facebook account. And it's like you click on them. Like, I can see where you live, where you work. I know who you know, your church group and like, like, you're a youth pastor. That's concerning. Yes.

[A]

I have had the spouse, the male spouse of a female elected official dm me horrible things before, like calling me the C word, et cetera, et cetera.

[B]

Name them. Name them. Your publicists are here. Like, please don't.

[A]

You seeing his government name not even in a user wants you to.

[B]

Not the government name.

[A]

You know, like his government name. When I click on it, it's like a picture of him and his wife as, like, they're in like, Hawaii or whatever. Guess what? But your name is also attached to your Facebook profile where you're using the same picture. Like, this was not difficult for me to find you. It Was literally a couple of clicks.

[B]

It's called a burner account.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I don't have one, but I will when. When my campaign starts. Starts up, I will absolutely lock it.

[A]

Stop dming women the C word. When your wife is an elected official and you're using your government name, the

[B]

amount of people that had gout that called me, like, obese on the Internet, that was fun. I would click and be like, sir, you've got a clubbed foot. Because you are. You know, the sugars aren't right. Like, it is. And I like to. I like to go back and forth, but I'm like, there's nothing that Amy can say to me on the Internet that I haven't said to myself in the mirror one day. That's the other thing. But you were. Yours was a different level.

[A]

Well, so, you know, I took it upon myself to contact his wife's office and to let his. At least his wife's staffers know what this man was.

[B]

Did you get a response?

[A]

I did not get a response from his wife's office, but I did. Did then take it upon myself to find out all of the boards of charities that this man was on, and I did take it upon myself to let them know, oh, one of them was a charity for children.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, you know, like, listen, a lot

[B]

of these people involved in charities for children realize that as well.

[A]

I'm a parent. I would not want a man who thinks this way about women is dming these kind of comments to women. I don't want him around my daughter, around my minor child.

[B]

This is why we need Sharon's instead of Karen's. Cause if Karen would have gone on the interwebs and caused a whole scruffle. You did it smart. Sharon went. She slid it under the bed.

[A]

You don't work there anymore.

[B]

Yeah. You don't. Yeah.

[A]

Good for you.

[B]

God, I get excited for Sharon. Okay, that's good for you. And again, it's about holding people accountable and has.

[A]

But it's also about protecting children.

[B]

Protecting children.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

Why is it so hard to protect the kids? I don't understand this. I'm not a parent yet. But I'm gonna tell you right now, those kids are gonna be microchipped, air tagged, the whole kitten caboodle. They're gonna be on leashes. I will be at Disney World with Lindsey Graham, and my kids will be on leashes. So you better get prepared.

[A]

They're gonna be around. Like, the leashes are gonna be attached to your waist. Oh, and then you're gonna be able to reel them back in.

[B]

When I see. When I've been to Disney World and people don't have their kids on some sort of, like, Spider man zip tie, I'm like, what are we doing here?

[A]

Just letting them run them up.

[B]

Let no run amok. I like the little. The squishy backpacks where they think that they've got a little tiger on their back, but literally, it's like you could pull them back at any moment.

[A]

Okay, I understand. Yeah, I hear that. I mean, like, these are not. People are allowed to have their own thoughts. You know, like, you can think that I'm the C word if you want to, but you can't simultaneously be a man who says that to women and the kind of man who should be working with children.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

You don't get to be both.

[B]

You don't get to be both. But you know what? We get to be fabulous. In the meantime, I'm so excited about my new campaign. I'm excited for my billboards. You've inspired me to really up the ante and take my game to the

[A]

next level and have confidence that you actually do have what it takes. You actually do have what it takes.

[B]

I'm so honored.

[A]

You do. You know more about government than the average person already, by the way. When you get elected to Congress, they put you through a little boot camp of, like, here's how it works, where they actually. You sit in a room with all the other new people, and they're like, here's how to write a bill.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Here's how to, like, when you're ready, here's how you submit the bill. Here's how to go to your committee hearing. Here's how to say no, Mr. Chairman. You know, like, they teach you, like, the rules, right? So you don't even need to know any of that. They'll tell you that after you get elected.

[B]

And then you know which closet's yours for all your sparkly suits and your capes.

[A]

That's right. Here's your office. You. You can, you know, put the furniture in there.

[B]

Summer interns. How fun is that? Summer Internet. Watch Outworld. Okay. Right. Okay, Continue.

[A]

That's right. They're going to. By the way, my son was a summer intern in Congress. His. I think you'll need this idea. You need to designate somebody in your office who is in charge of what my son referred to as the munch pile. Oh, okay. The munch pile is a platter of gifts or of snacks from your home state. All members of Congress have that.

[B]

It's just nuts. It's nuts and peaches.

[A]

That's what we call pecans. Do you say pecans?

[B]

I say pecan.

[A]

Okay. Pecan.

[B]

Yeah. I don't say pecan pie. I say pecan.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, I'm more of a Gone with the Wind kind of southern woman.

[A]

Cold.

[B]

I'll pick up, but I can do either. If you buy me to Thanksgiving, I will do whatever grandmama says. Continue. Yes.

[A]

So you, you get to choose as the member of Congress, which snacks represent you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it could be something from Georgia. It could also just be something that you feel like. This is the most heather snack that's ever been.

[B]

It's a tiramisu. Lots of that.

[A]

Just like little bites. Bite sized tiramisu, truffles, whatever you want. So it's your job to, you know, or you assign one of the summer interns to make a munch pile so that everybody who comes to your office is afforded, you know, like, would you like a snack? And then when your interns are bored, what they do is they wander around to other people's offices and they see if they can trade snacks.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

They will bring their tray and be like, do you want to trade? And they'll be like, what do you have?

[B]

Like, I've got smoked cigars.

[A]

I have sun chips. You have sun chips. We don't want that. Everyone can. Everyone has sun chips. Get out of here.

[B]

And I. And I want to be the house with the good Halloween candy. So I can't.

[A]

Maple fudge is what you need if you're from Minnesota. Right. Because we got the trees.

[B]

I was a fudgy kid. I love fudge. And maple.

[A]

Maple fudge. You want the maple fudge. You know, like, you want a salted nut roll. Like all of these things that we make in Minnesota. So you're going to trade for the good snacks. And you know which offices have sun chip.

[B]

Oh, I'll tell you.

[A]

You can get that on an airplane.

[B]

Graham's got the sun chips.

[A]

You can get that on a Delta plane.

[B]

Right? Exactly.

[A]

You can get sun chips in the old place. So you gotta have the good snacks. And then your summer interns can go around and they can trade and they come home, come back to your office, and then. Exactly. Your office becomes the cool place.

[B]

And then I get the hot goss because everyone's coming over for my precise goodies. And the next thing, that's when I'm infiltrating change because I'm like, what's happening? Over in Mont, Montana, you know, that's

[A]

100% the people in Congress that do not have the good. The good interns. Nobody likes them. Nobody goes to their office. Some of them only serve green jello. Nobody wants that.

[B]

Who wants green jello?

[A]

Nobody wants that. Nobody comes over. So here you go. Like, this is the insider tea. You gotta get the summer interns and do the munch piles, okay?

[B]

That's what I'm do. And we're going to start there and then I'm going to run it like the Real Housewives. And I'm just going to get all the gossip and that's how I'm going to go in there and change the world. I've done so much. My cousin, my sister, and my future campaign manager, everybody, check her out. And thank you guys so much for tuning in to this incredible episode. I hope you learned something and you better vote for me. Okay, we'll see you on the next episode. Ciao, bella. Arrivederci. Bye bye. Thanks so much for listening to today's episode. Don't forget to subscribe, rate us and leave a review. And as always, follow me on Instagram at heatherkmcmahon. See you guys soon.