Add it Again: Dance Battles with a Rubber Hand with Atsuko Okatsuka

Summary

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Add to Cart – "Add it Again: Dance Battles with a Rubber Hand"

Hosts: Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak
Guest: Atsuko Okatsuka
Date: April 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of Add to Cart features comedian, actor, and accidental TikTok drop challenge originator Atsuko Okatsuka. Kulap and SuChin dive into wedding recaps, fashion talk, and Atsuko’s vibrant approach to life and shopping. The trio gets candid and hilarious about family, dance battles, chosen communities, and, most memorably, a tattoo artist's silicone practice hand Atsuko has in her home. If you love witty banter, found family feels, and creative shopping insights, this episode is a perfect cart addition.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Kulap’s Wedding Weekend Recap (03:25–15:13)

• The Lurb is Real: Kulap shares deeply about attending her friend Matt’s wedding, highlighting the love and connection among guests and their families.
  • “I’m heartsick because I wish I was still at…Matt McConkey’s Wedding.” — Kulap (03:38)
• Dress Code Drama & Joy:
  • Pre-wedding dress code: “Call Me By Your Name” casual — “Dress like you’re attending a relaxed luncheon at a sun-drenched Italian villa.” (04:45)
  • “It’s brought the group together. How genius is that?” — SuChin (05:32)
  • Wedding dress code: “Fashion Forward” with the cheeky note: “The higher the heel, the closer to God.” (07:08)
• Kulap’s Look:
  • Stunning Bronx and Banco dress (double-slit Gucci green), $550 at Bergdorf Goodman.
    • “It hugged your body in the right places…the color of money… that Gucci green.” — SuChin (07:58)
  • Gold platform Azalea Wang shoes ($109), bejeweled for opulent effect.
    • “They look like they’re $5,000.” — SuChin (09:35)
  • Accessories: Small Gucci red clutch and snake earrings from Article 22, made from Laos war bombs.
    • “I was also kind of wanting to give...that Gucci vape.” — Kulap (10:39)

Emotional Wedding Moments (11:07–15:13)

• Making the Ceremony Unique:
  • Bridal party opened with a Sex and the City scene, with friends assigned to character roles.
    • “To start the ceremony, the string trio starts the Sex in the City theme song. We take our places behind the mic and then a scene begins that was four to five pages long.” — Kulap (11:32)
• Family Connections:
  • Matt’s blended family: adopted, birth and step parents, and found family.
    • “It really was so much about blended families…all types of variations of family, of blending.” — Kulap (14:30)

SuChin’s “Add to Cart”: A Cynical Children’s Book (15:27–18:27)

• The Kid, the Troll, the Wolf, and the Hearse:
  • Her husband Mike Bender’s new book is a cynical homage to The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse.
    • “Some of my favorite drawings and words are…‘The greatest illusion is that happiness makes you happy.’” — SuChin (16:51)
  • Kickstarter live, delivery by Christmas (ends May 26).

Guest Segment: Atsuko Okatsuka (21:35–45:58)

• Introduction:

  • Sensual dancer, comedian, writer, and creator of the viral grandma “drop challenge.”
  • “Thank you so much. I feel so seen. I feel so seen, oh my God.” — Atsuko (22:34)

• Community & Dance Roots (23:27–29:33):

  • Asian American Women in Entertainment’s online twerk class, where Atsuko taught ass-popping during the pandemic.
  • “For me, it was, like, survival. And that's how I learned it…my body, this body of an engineer…shouldn’t be able to do that.” — Atsuko (25:05)
  • Cheerleaders were her first community in high school, not the stereotypical kind:
    • “If it weren’t for cheer, we would have joined a gang…some had been shanked before.” — Atsuko (28:14)

• Dance as Conflict Resolution (29:26–30:25):

  • “I haven’t seen a dance battle in so long live…Instead of arguments, you gotta dance it out.” — Atsuko (29:33/29:55)

• Chosen Family & Popularity Myths (30:41–33:12):

  • Nostalgic talk about friend groups, popularity, Sunday school, and SuChin’s MTV days.
  • “Still with Jesus on my side.” — SuChin (31:35)

• Pop Culture Connections (33:12–36:22):

  • Atsuko and Lil Jon now chat online — his songs were essential to her cheer days.
    • “Lil Jon and I are just talking like friends. Like, he’s my uncle; I’m his niece.” — Atsuko (35:18)

• Shopping and Survival Mentality (37:08–39:12):

  • Atsuko buys last minute, improvises outfits with leftovers—finds “beauty in things.”
    • “A game I like to play…if I had to live here, where would I shop?…I would make styles happen out of things at Walmart…” — Atsuko (37:45)
  • Immigrant upbringing shapes her flexible, survival-based approach.
    • “I came here when I was 10…my grandma kidnapped my mom and me pretty much, yeah. She’s like, ‘We’re gonna go on vacation.’ But then, surprise, we’re staying here.” — Atsuko (38:47/39:03)

• Atsuko’s Add to Cart: Tattoo Practice Fake Hand (39:42–45:33):

  • Spent $40 on a silicone hand, intended as a stage prop for a standup bit (that flopped), now decorates her Christmas tree.
    • “Tattoo artists practice on these prosthetic hands… I’m not a tattoo artist…I wanted to do this bit… I had to actually get the prop to see if it works.” — Atsuko (39:50)
    • “This hand looks real.” — SuChin (40:57)
    • “If you look… it does—I can— I'm about to vape through it.” — Atsuko [demonstrates with vape pen] (42:34)
  • Discuss creative ways to repurpose the hand (“Put it on your husband’s junk”), and joke about “immigrant math” of wringing value from every purchase.
    • “It’s about how you spread the $40. It’s not about displaying it in one location.” — Atsuko (44:24)
    • “As for me, that thing would be on Scott’s junk almost 24/7.” — Kulap (44:37)

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Notable Quotes

• “This is $40. No, it’s: how many uses can you get out of it?” — Atsuko (44:24)
• “You chose the color of richness. You chose that Gucci green.” — SuChin (07:58)
• “It’s brought the group together. How genius is that?” — SuChin (05:32)
• “Fights in a grocery store…you gotta dance it out. Whoever has the most spirit…You got served.” — Atsuko (29:55)
• “A game I like to play…if I had to live here, where would I shop?” — Atsuko (37:45)
• “My grandma kidnapped my mom and me pretty much, yeah.” — Atsuko (39:03)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Wedding Recap & Dress Codes: 03:25–10:39
• Fashion Details & Accessories: 10:06–11:07
• Sex and the City Ceremony: 11:07–14:30
• Blended Family & Wedding Feels: 14:30–15:13
• Mike Bender’s Cynical Book: 15:27–18:27
• Guest Introduction (Atsuko): 21:35–23:01
• Twerking & Dance Community: 23:27–29:33
• Dance Battles for Conflict: 29:26–30:25
• Atsuko on Shopping Style: 37:08–39:12
• The Fake Hand Story: 39:42–45:33

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Memorable Moments

• Kulap’s detailed, humorous rundown of wedding dress codes, outfit choices, and friend group fashion drama (05:08–08:41).
• Emotional reflection on found and blended families at weddings (14:06–14:46).
• The “$40 tattoo practice hand” becomes an object lesson in comedy, resourcefulness, and immigrant ingenuity (39:42–44:24).
• Deep belly laughs over “immigrant math” and ideas for pranking spouses with fake hands (44:06–44:37).
• Unexpected heart and nostalgia around dance teams, cheerleaders, and the power of chosen community (27:54–29:33).

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Episode Tone and Style

Warm, inviting, and irreverently hilarious, this episode embodies the “Aunties to all” spirit. Both hosts and guest share vulnerable, offbeat stories with sincerity and plenty of spicy banter, always circling back to what their carts—and lives—reveal about them.

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Transcript

[Sujin Park]

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[Atsuko Okatsuka]

lemonada.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Also with that fire boy,

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You forgot to bling bling. Wait.

[Sujin Park]

Hello, everyone, and welcome to another brand new episode of add to cart. Now this is a show about all of the things we buy, the things that we buy into, and what it says about who we are. I am Sujin Park.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And I am Kulap the Lysock. And we have some great guests and a sidebar with Suchin coming up.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

But before we get into the show, I do want to talk about why I think listeners can hear. My voice is so hoarse.

[Sujin Park]

I was gonna ask. I was like, are you sick?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I'm.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I'm heartsick because I wish I was still at my dear friend and former guest of the show, Matt McConkey's Wedding.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Formerly Matt McConkey, now Matt Grassi.

[Sujin Park]

Oh, he's, he's. He changed his name.

[Kulap Vlasak]

That's right.

[Sujin Park]

This is for real.

[Kulap Vlasak]

This is Lurb. This is Lurb. Sue, I've been to many a wedding. Yeah, the best I've ever been to.

[Sujin Park]

Wow.

I'm not surprised.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I've met some of Michael's family, some of his friends. The way that we talk about Michael for Matt, and just the type of amazing person that Michael Grassi is, his friends were like, that's how we think about Matt. Aw. And that, like, to me, is so beautiful. Sue, did we ever talk about the dress codes at all for this wedding?

[Sujin Park]

No, I haven't heard anything about the wedding.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Okay, so the dress codes. So there were two events. The night before was Michael's birthday and also the welcome party. And the dress code was. Call me by your name.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Casual.

[Kulap Vlasak]

What does that mean, Sue? Well, it means that you should dress like you're attending a relaxed luncheon at a sun drenched Italian villa. Think open collared shirts and flowy silhouettes in earth tones and lush pastels. Easy.

[Guest or Producer]

Are you actually reading from.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yes, I am.

[Guest or Producer]

From an invitation.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I'm reading from their website.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

They gave you?

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yes. So it's easy breezy, laid back, and gay. And so this, these dress codes, sue, like since that dropped when we were told what to do, I think everybody has been so engaged. Like, what are you wearing? Let me see what you. I don't know if you should wear that Wear this. Like, it just.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And it's brought.

[Sujin Park]

It's brought the group together. How genius is that?

[Kulap Vlasak]

And what is so funny is that, like, Casey in particular was just, like, trying different ideas for, like, both events. Am I gonna wear this? Am I gonna wear that? Finally, like, the week of, she got this great outfit that was this pink blush suit. And I'm like, this is Call Me by youy Name. You have to wear it. You have to wear it. Yeah. You look so good. Then Matt and Michael show up at the welcome party, and Matt is essentially wearing the same thing.

[Sujin Park]

A pink suit.

[Kulap Vlasak]

It's not a bad thing. The equivalent of wearing white to a wedding.

[Sujin Park]

But listen, Casey really understood the assignment.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah, there you go.

[Sujin Park]

Some would say she got the A.

[Kulap Vlasak]

You know, of course, I thought it was really fun and funny. I think it's great that they were in matching outfits. The outfit for the wedding, the. The. The dress code was fashion forward. And so it still makes me laugh because when they go, hey, what does it mean? What does fashion forward mean? I'm scared. They're like, don't be. You don't have to look like you're fresh off the Runway. We just want you to feel like it. So go bold, make some statements, and live your truth.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Okay.

[Guest or Producer]

Okay.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And then just an addendum about shoes. The higher the heel, the closer to God.

[Guest or Producer]

Wow, this is quite an invitation.

[Sujin Park]

All right.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Okay, so I'm gonna do this. And then there was so much talk, like, is that fashion forward enough? Is that. So I posted a picture over the weekend of just Maddie and Michael, and Maddie's, like, best friends, AKA his sisters, basically. And you guys can see my dress, and a lot of people were wondering about my dress.

[Sujin Park]

I mean, I'm not gonna play favorites.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Okay.

[Sujin Park]

Cause it's unfair. Also, you're my pod wise.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah, that's right.

[Sujin Park]

But let's be real.

[Guest or Producer]

Yours was the best.

[Sujin Park]

It's not a contest.

[Kulap Vlasak]

But it is in our friend group. It is at that wedding. It is.

[Sujin Park]

And you chose the color of money. You chose the color of richness. You chose that Gucci green. It hugged your body in the right places.

The slit in the leg.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Oh, wait, Sue. Cause you're seeing one leg. I need to let you know that it was a double slit. Double slit slits for both legs. Hit that link. The maker of this beautiful dress that I.

[Sujin Park]

This dress on this website at Bergdorf Goodman by Bronx and Banco doesn't even do it justice. Like, this doesn't even look sexy on the model.

[Kulap Vlasak]

You're not seeing the doll.

[Sujin Park]

They should replace this, this weird person with the photo from the wedding. Wow. That will sell this dress.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Thank you, Sue. It was comfortable too.

[Sujin Park]

Do I have to add this to cart?

But the double slits, that scares me. But I could maybe put some leggings. I'm kidding.

This was so gorgeous.

Okay, go on.

[Kulap Vlasak]

This dress was 550. That's not cheap. I went a little cheaper for the shoes. And you know, you look at these shoes, sue, they're from a brand. I was not familiar about them at Nordstrom. Using Rakuten for all of this.

[Sujin Park]

You guys activate one cash back right now. I can't even search without an activate these days.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Seriously, Azalea Wang. These are some shoes.

[Sujin Park]

Wait, were they comfortable?

[Kulap Vlasak]

They were comfortable.

[Sujin Park]

They're $109, you guys. They look like they're $5,000.

[Kulap Vlasak]

But like I was riding the line of tacky. Like that's where I was going to try to kind of do that was my fashion forward like idea.

[Sujin Park]

Okay.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And so that's where. Where I wanted to go. I guess the word opulence is what. Yes, I was thinking. But it's a gold platform shoe with a centrally bejeweled.

[Sujin Park]

Bejeweled gold platform shoe. Yes.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And then, you know, I wore, you know, my go to small Gucci red clutch. I wore a pair of earrings which I didn't take any photos of. But they're these like gold tone snake earrings that I got from Article 22 and they are a company that takes bombs that the US dropped onto Laos and makes jewelry out of them. Oh, those are gorgeous snake earrings. So it was very, you know, I was also kind of wanting to give. You know, I love that Gucci vape.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah. No, you gave it.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You.

[Sujin Park]

You gave it. I mean, I didn't know what the dress code was. I know your friend group loves a dress code, but man, you guys all looked straight out of Vogue. And you, you were the cake topper.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I. I appreciate that. I also want to tell you because I haven't told you this is that Matt put together a Sex and the City scene.

[Sujin Park]

What do you mean?

[Kulap Vlasak]

He. To open the wedding.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Not the reception. The wedding.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah, the ceremony.

[Kulap Vlasak]

The ceremony. He had myself, June Casey Lara Kindred take on the roles of the women from Sex and the City and do.

[Guest or Producer]

To do what?

[Kulap Vlasak]

A scene.

[Guest or Producer]

Wait, before the ceremony, you did a

[Sujin Park]

Sex and the City scene?

[Kulap Vlasak]

No, no, I'm sorry. To start the ceremony. To start the ceremony, the string trio starts the Sex in the City theme song. We take our places behind the mic and then a scene begins that was four to five pages long.

[Sujin Park]

So basically, no gay wedding can ever happen after this wedding.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Like.

[Sujin Park]

Like they somehow broke the sound barrier of gay weddings.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I played the role of Samantha Jones.

[Guest or Producer]

Of course, I'm not. Of course there's a few Samantha's in your group, but June.

[Kulap Vlasak]

June and Casey. Yeah. Well, I mean, there was some talks and people were not happy with who they were assigned. Casey did not like taking Charlotte on. But what I want to say, and I keep saying to her is that, like, me and Laura, who Laura played Miranda, June played Carrie. Casey and June, the actresses in our group, the, you know, true thespians, they're gonna get the challenging roles. They're gonna get more of a word count. They have more stuff to do to convey me. I just say things like, I put dinner rolls in my poochie. That's what me's doing. I am limited. And. Oh, Sue. I was not calm and collected about it. I was so worried about, like, fucking up, like.

[Sujin Park]

And that's so unlike you too. But that's a lot of pressure.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I felt the pressure. I really did. And. Cause Matt is. He. Matthew is.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

It was perfect. It was so perfect. Every moment was so fun. I love. I. It was such a celebration of their love. I love their love. You know, Matt and I, we really. We do. We connect on so many things, but, you know, like, Matt's adopted. I've. I'm adopted by my stepdad. Like, there's some, like, you know. Yeah, there's. There's these feelings that we understand about each other. Yeah. I was around when Matt met his birth mom and, you know, it's. I think he's just to have her there and she's such good friends with Matt's mom, Evelyn. Have Colleen, his birth mother there. And to have them both speak.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Ah, man.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Man, oh, man. That's really powerful. Yeah.

[Sujin Park]

Wow.

[Kulap Vlasak]

To see. To see everybody speak. To see. And it really was just so much about, like, blended families because we had stepdads and birth mothers and husbands of birth moms and half brothers and step moms and.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You know what I mean?

[Kulap Vlasak]

Like, there was just like so many type of variations of family, of blending of family. And then both Matt and Michael have such deep and rich found families. Like, such deep and like, we, all of us would truly do anything and everything for them.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I mean, start crying.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I love them so much. And it was so perfect.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And all the music was perfect and the food was delicious. I don't know. I. I'm That's. And this is why my throat is just gone. Like, I just was screaming and laughing and I couldn't stop crying. I just. I lost so much water weight. Just so beyond touched.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Anyways.

[Sujin Park]

Well, that's amazing. I'm so glad. I couldn't wait to hear about it because I knew that, you know, you were out of pocket for the weekend. Before we get to our guests, though, can I give a quick add to cart?

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yes, please.

[Sujin Park]

I just wanted to give a quick shout out to my husband, Mike Bender, past guest on this podcast. So I don't know if you remember, during the pandemic, there was this book called the Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the horse by Charlie McKeesy, or McKessy, I'm not sure how to pronounce it. Oh, it was like an international bestseller. You couldn't buy this book, really. Like, at some point, it was the biggest book on Amazon.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Oh, it was huge.

[Sujin Park]

And there was something about this book where it's a beautifully illustrated book, it's a kid's book, but not really that People in that time, they found hope and love and some sort of joy. And it was very touching and heartfelt, and I think people really needed to hear that and read that. And so my husband got that book as a gift, and he decided to do a version of that book.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh.

[Guest or Producer]

And it's quite different.

[Sujin Park]

It's a cynical version of that book. And if you know Mike, that's not surprising. And, you know, he was like, this is a beautiful book. I love this book. But there's also a part of me that's like, we are in shit times. Things are shit, and I feel like shit all the time. Let's lean into that. And so he has written a book. It's called the Kid, the Troll, the Wolf, and the Hearse.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yes.

[Sujin Park]

There is a talking hearse with a coffin inside. And, you know, while the original. It's an homage, you know, while the original book, you know, talks about hope and love. You know, there are quotes in this book. You know, some of my favorite drawings and words are, you know, the greatest illusion is that happiness makes you happy. You know, you know, stuff like that,

[Guest or Producer]

where if you know Mike, you know

[Sujin Park]

what this is, but he just kind of wanted to give catharsis to just cynical people like him that are lovable as well. And you can get it on the Kickstarter. It ends next week, May 26th. So it's a very short Kickstarter. And then the book will be delivered by Christmas. So really, it's just the perfect gift for, you know, any cynical bastard in your life. If you know myself and Mike, that is our love language. Yeah. It's cynicism.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Sujin Park]

And awkwardness. And that's.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That's it.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I want to shout out to my friend Mike Bender. This man, he's so just like industrious in the midst of. He is dealing with, as you guys have read his article in Men's Health, just at times debilitating health issues. You know, I. Yeah, you all want to be cynical, but like I see this man triumph, you know, Like I see it too, you know. So yeah. I mean, I'm so impressed.

[Sujin Park]

He is truly. He is truly a creator. Like we talk about creative people. Yeah. The only thing that makes him happy is to create.

[Kulap Vlasak]

We'll definitely post on our social media

[Sujin Park]

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[Kulap Vlasak]

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[Sujin Park]

All right, so without further ado, let's

get to our lovely guest.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Oh, my Stars and stripes forever. People of America, people of the universe, wake up.

[Sujin Park]

Wake up, wake up, wake up.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Take off your socks before they get shot. Off your feet. Because our guest today is a comedian, an actor, a writer, a sensual dancer, a starter of all things. She's been seen on the Late Late show with James Corden, Arsenio live from the Roosevelt. I mean, she was all over this recent Netflix is a joke festival. Every day, working, getting her money, getting her bag, supporting her family. And she still is autonomous and her own woman. She is well known for starting the drop challenge accidentally with her grandma. Please welcome Atsuko Okatsuka.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Thank you so much. I feel so seen. I feel so seen. Oh, my God.

[Guest or Producer]

That's all we do here is just

[Sujin Park]

watch what you're doing all the time.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

This is a big part of my life.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I've known you and known of you for a long time. And it's so exciting to see what was inevitable and that being your star rising.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, that's so sweet. Oh, my God. What is this? Just a family get together.

[Kulap Vlasak]

That's right.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Gone right. Oh, my God.

[Guest or Producer]

Who's family?

[Kulap Vlasak]

Not my family.

[Guest or Producer]

This is.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The gone right part is, you know, what is this? Chosen family? This is friendsgiving.

[Guest or Producer]

There you go.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yes.

[Guest or Producer]

Hi, y'.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

All. I've been. You know, obviously I feel the same way about you two, you know, so no big deal.

[Sujin Park]

Not too long ago, we all, you know, did some twerking together online, and,

[Guest or Producer]

boy, did I learn about some muscle groups that were pretty much, you know,

[Sujin Park]

non existent before we did our little. Little dance therapy. It was so fun.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Sue, have you ever popped that ass before?

[Guest or Producer]

I can't say I even popped it at that dance butt popping session. I was trying to look for my ass and. And you were very clear about what

[Sujin Park]

to do and what muscle groups to use.

[Guest or Producer]

Even if you don't have a butt

[Sujin Park]

like me that you could still pop it. And I tried.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

It was a.

[Kulap Vlasak]

A Speaking of a. That's the group that we all organize with. It's Asian American Women in Entertainment. During the pandemic, Atsuko graciously volunteered her spirit and her ass to teach us how to twerk.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That was the segue I was trying to give you by saying A plus. So that was good. I'm glad you got to plug that. Oh, we're in a place because it is a beautiful space. It's a beautiful space that y', all, you know, provide. And, you know, I was like, oh, yes. You know, it's like therapy and safe space and all this. And then you're like, can you just come just, like, shake that. Shake that butt? And I was like, sure. Yeah.

[Guest or Producer]

We hold multitudes as cool says, you

[Sujin Park]

know, we can fight for visibility and for representation, and we can shake that.

That ass.

[Kulap Vlasak]

You shake that ass.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah.

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

It's truly, like, for me, it was, like, survival. And that's how I learned it, because, you know, my body, this body of an engineer that I. I got from my father shouldn't be able to do that, you know, but it was. I would just want people to know. It's not, like, a thing. It's not like I was born and I was like. They were like, oh, that juicy behind. She's gonna be able to do that one day.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I'm so glad that the doctors didn't say that about your baby body. I'm glad.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, no, that's true. That would be weird. Especially because it was my uncle that pulled me out of my mom. Wow. My uncle's an obgyn. Okay. And my family loves a discount, so they were like. My mom was like, yeah, just have my brother do it. Oh, my God. Which is, like, such an intimate. I don't know if you all have a relationship like that, you know?

[Kulap Vlasak]

I am certain that I do not. This is beautiful.

[Guest or Producer]

My husband was bare. He was leaning out, let's say leaning out so hard that at one point, the nurse was like, my My. My knee kept flopping over because, you know, when you're that medicated down there,

[Sujin Park]

somebody has to prop up all.

[Guest or Producer]

And he just. He was leaning out so hard.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. Because he didn't want to get splashed. He's. He was in the splash zone.

[Guest or Producer]

He's like, oh, God, no, it's splash zone. Don't have my raincoat on. I was like, hello. Yeah, I need my legs.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

There are certain things that, like, with friends or our loves, like, we don't want them doing the scientific things, you know, like, you don't want to get a pap smear from, you know, your husband. Right. Ever. You shouldn't.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That. That. That. That would just change your sex life, I think. And luckily, you know, my. They were brother and sister, you know, my. My mom and uncle. So that wasn't going to tarnish that. Maybe in some cultures, some places, you know.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Do you think there was a deepening, like.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, I mean, it didn't. It didn't tarnish their sex life. Yes. With each other, because there was none in the first place. But, yeah, it probably, like, deepened their. Their bond, you know, their sibling bond.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That's what I was going to get. I'm still shy around him. I'm still. I'm like, oh, my God. You saw that. You saw me on my first hour. Oh, my God, I'm so shy around this uncle. But anyway, yeah, so it was like high school. During high school, you know, I had a hard time making friends, and so, you know, I was trying to fit into different groups, and it was the cheerleaders that took me in, and that's how I learned what I can do with my body. And, you know, they sort of, like, really pushed me. You know, I can express myself through my body because I had a hard time with words at that time.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

So, like, dance and what you can do with your hips and your butt. That goes back to finding my first community kind of. Yeah.

[Guest or Producer]

Cheerleaders. I did not see that coming.

[Kulap Vlasak]

They were the pack of wolves that took young Atsuko in, showed her the ways of the hip.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Well, I don't know what your cheerleaders were like at your schools, but mine weren't like, bring it on, cheerleaders. What were they like? They were like, oh, if it went for a cheer, we would have joined a gang. That kind of, like, a lot of them had, like. Yeah, some. Some had been shanked before. Oh, it was very different. Okay. Very different. I see. It's not like cheer like you see in Netflix you know?

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah. My school, like, the cheerleaders weren't that popular. Girls. The popular girls were a dance line.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Interesting.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And then. Exactly my year, I think my sophomore year, they started a step team that would maybe last two seasons. And I was a part of that.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Of course. Yeah. Step team. Also pivotal to a lot of kids.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yes.

[Guest or Producer]

Lives.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You know, growing up.

[Kulap Vlasak]

You know what I'm gonna show you guys? When I see you guys in person, I'll do the two or three moves that I remember. I can't wait.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I mean.

[Guest or Producer]

I mean, why wait? You know what I mean? Anytime during this recording, if you want to just get up and step it out, please.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Kind of tough. I think Ivan wouldn't like that.

[Guest or Producer]

This is a new fact. I'm learning something new about. Well, the both of you.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. No introduction needed. Next time you see us, just go straight into it.

[Kulap Vlasak]

That's how. That's how. That's how I will greet you both.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Because you know what I haven't seen in a while in the streets. Maybe. Because I live in Silver Lake.

[Kulap Vlasak]

What's that?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You know, everyone's stiff here.

[Kulap Vlasak]

They're so stiff.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I haven't seen a dance battle in so. Long live.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah. It should just like. It should. That's how we should just be breaking. You know, in this post pandemic where I know we're still in a pandemic, but as we ease out to something different, maybe that's what we do have. Michael Jackson style dance battles. Bad style. You know what I mean?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Hash it out. Yes. Instead of arguments. Yeah. You know, fights in a grocery store. If it's the last hummus and you're trying to get it, you gotta dance it out.

[Kulap Vlasak]

That's right.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Whoever has the most spirit.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You got served. That you got served.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And like, body roll it. Body roll it and see what happens. Just see.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, let's try that. Maybe you'll get repped.

[Guest or Producer]

Who?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You never know who's watching. Right. And so. So you win that battle. Boom. You've got mail. You have an agent now.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Whoa. This is exciting.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I'm just naming movies that I grew up. What's happening? You got served and you've got mail. Two pivotal movies in my life.

[Guest or Producer]

Career advice. You know, conflict resolution, weight watching. Conflict resolution, body movement.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. We covered it all and we have

[Guest or Producer]

yet to get into your list.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You know, I'm very realizing maybe Suchin was a popular girl. Is that why you haven't said what group you were in?

[Guest or Producer]

I wish that were the case with

[Sujin Park]

my Connie Chung Bob haircut. I, too, have an engineer's body, but not as. Not as voluptuous as your engineer body.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Okay, got it.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Okay. And then what years did you teach? Sunday school.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, you taught Sunday school? Yeah. Sounds like you were pretty popular. God was on me.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yes.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Jesus.

[Sujin Park]

The boys.

[Guest or Producer]

The boys wanted some of this, honey, you know what I mean? Buzzing around all the time, just really hard to keep it. Keep it.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

They had under wraps because they were like, jesus, she's teaching the word of God.

[Kulap Vlasak]

She's holy.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah. I mean, Jesus was my man, you know.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Mere years later, she becomes queen of mtv.

[Sujin Park]

Still with Jesus on my side.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

That's what I was saying, like, with trl, you. Because you said you never, like, found your butt or shook it. Like, not even TRL days.

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, my God, not even TRL days.

[Sujin Park]

Not even post TRL day.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Is it because during that time I was like Limp Bizkit and like, that's hard to dance to.

[Kulap Vlasak]

No, I mean, she talks about how she was, like, in studio with Usher, completely unmoved, listening to music, eyes glazed

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

over,

[Guest or Producer]

windows to the wall. Is that Usher?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

It's this Little John.

[Guest or Producer]

Okay, what's an Usher song?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I don't even.

[Sujin Park]

What is an Usher song?

[Kulap Vlasak]

You know what?

[Guest or Producer]

I don't even know. I don't even know what that is.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

During that time. It's probably like, you got it bad, maybe.

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You got.

[Guest or Producer]

You got a bad.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. Confessions. These are my confessions. Yes. He had cheated on someone.

[Sujin Park]

That's right. Yeah, that's right.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah, it was.

[Sujin Park]

It was. There were deep times, you know, soul searching times when I was there. And, you know, I have to say, my Sunday school background probably really did help me get into it, you know, with Usher and. And his confessions. You know, I was comfortable in that.

[Guest or Producer]

Right?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You were like. Yeah, a priest, right?

[Kulap Vlasak]

At that point. She's a priest.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

A priest, yes. Where you could be like, he's a sinner, I'm a sinner. I can relate. Yeah, totally. Yeah.

[Sujin Park]

Yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Little John and I talk now, by the way, like, just the side note. What do you mean?

[Kulap Vlasak]

Like, how do you.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

No, I want this flex and I

[Kulap Vlasak]

love you to go deeper.

[Guest or Producer]

Wait, talk as in.

[Sujin Park]

Because in middle school, talk means, you know, something more than. Yeah, so. So get into it right now.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I want to bring back talk, as in, like, you're just literally talking to each other. None of this code word stuff. Everyone's so horny. Just grow up, okay? I'm talking to him just like I'm talking to you. Both of you. Yeah, we're not dating. You know what?

[Kulap Vlasak]

You're right.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I'm not trying to fuck.

[Kulap Vlasak]

You're not trying to fuck. But I mean, everyone is so horny.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

No, that's true. Everyone's horny, but they're just so horny, y'. All. Maybe you have this problem because, you know, you. You are both very, like, flirty, you know, And I'm flirty, too, but I have this essence that sort of shuts down that possibility of hooking up. I feel like when people talk to me, they just assume we're not hooking up. Do you have that power? I mean, do they vocalize that? No. You could just tell, like, I'm.

[Guest or Producer]

Oh, yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Immediately. Friend zoned. And, you know. Sure.

[Sujin Park]

Immediately.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

We all have our people, our, you know.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Be our partners. So maybe that helps. But, you know, people still try to.

[Sujin Park]

Right.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Knowing you're married.

[Sujin Park]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest or Producer]

Little John, I need to hear the story.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Here we go.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. We're circling back to Little John. Yeah. I wanted to give you all a compliment first, though, that, you know, people probably still try to, like, wink eyes at you. Like, nobody does that with me. They always. They always. Oh, my God. Let's go. Oh, a little bit. Like, they feel bad. Oh. Oh, no.

[Guest or Producer]

It's because they haven't seen you dance.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, no. That bokeh is actually her hair. Yeah. Oh, no. She really rocks that every day. We'll come back to this, but Little John and I are just talking like friends. Like. Like, he's my uncle. I'm his niece.

[Guest or Producer]

Well, we know what uncles do in

[Sujin Park]

your family, so let's say.

[Guest or Producer]

Let's pick a different. He's like your. He's like your second cousin.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

He's like my second cousin. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Where he. He just really enjoyed. Because Lil Jon songs were very pivotal during my cheerleading days, we would use his songs a lot for our routines. And so I sort of grew up listening to just, like, hype that. Hype energy that, you know, I'm not, like, a deep person when I listen to music. I don't need the lyrics to be, like, you know, mind blowing or anything. No, just a simple. Yeah, just a simple. To the wall, like. Yeah, Freaking. We're just excited to be here, you know, And. And so in some of the dances that I do with my grandma that I post online, we use his songs, and he found them, and so that's how we started talking. And so, like, next time we're in the same city, you know, we're gonna try to hang out and collab And I don't know what he's gonna do at a stand up show, but you know, he can just be there.

[Kulap Vlasak]

You just sit down.

[Guest or Producer]

Hype. Yeah, he's gonna be your hype man.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, right? Yeah. I think it might be fun if like a stand up is doing their set and then he just has like a word or two in the background. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or repeat the punchline, you know, like charcuterie, panini, you know, whatever these are all of. He can be the, you know, you know when you get a light, when you have like two minutes left. Yeah, he can be the light.

[Kulap Vlasak]

I mean that two minutes, the potential,

[Sujin Park]

I mean it's endless.

[Kulap Vlasak]

We need to get into your list, but really quickly, I want to know like what type of shopper are you? How would you describe your style? Right.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I'm very last minute. Oh no, I didn't plan. I'll get whatever version of it is left really fast. I need this tomorrow kind of person.

[Kulap Vlasak]

You went to art school, number one. Let's talk about, I mean, let's be clear to everyone who's listening.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Right.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Your, your fashion is very artistic and quirky and bright. But even with that, you're like, what's left? What are the dregs?

[Guest or Producer]

Yeah, she's an artist.

[Sujin Park]

She can, she can piece anything together. You are one of those types of people I feel like, right. That you're like, okay, I can work with pretty much anything. I can make it, make it cute, make it cool.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yes. Yeah. Sort of an unprepped. But I see beauty in things, you know, whatever is left over. Like when I'm stuck in a small town or something. A game I like to play in my head is like I look around, you know, within like the two mile radius that I'm around, you know, at a tiny hotel next to only highways and think, if I had to live here, where would I shop? You know, okay, so I would shop at Walmart. Let's see what Walmart has, you know, that would, I would make styles happen out of the things at Walmart, you know, and I would make friends at this diner because, you know, they seem to have a little more of a diverse group than this other diner. You know, like I'm very. Survival mentality. Yeah. I mean it's a lot of sheer will, not a lot of prep. You know, when I buy things, it's the same, you know, it all comes from our upbringing, doesn't it? Right, the way we shop.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Absolutely, absolutely. And you're, you're an Immigrant.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Mm.

[Kulap Vlasak]

How old were you when you came to America?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I came here when I was 10. 10. And I just had, like a carry on and I thought I was gonna be here for two months.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And your grandma surprised you?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, yeah. She lied to me. She kidnapped my mom and me pretty much, yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

She's like, we're gonna go on vacation.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Right.

[Kulap Vlasak]

But then, surprise, we're staying here.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Right. And I think with that mentality, I think that's where the survival mentality comes from.

[Kulap Vlasak]

That's a straight line right there. That's very clear.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Work with what you have.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah. And you had.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

So I just had to work with what I had.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah. The equivalent of a large tote, probably. Yeah, it's probably what you had on wheels. And look at you now. Look at you now. Let's get into her list. Let's see what Atsuko has added to cart, or let's say add to small child suitcase. The first item is a tattoo practice fake hand.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. What? What are you doing, Atsuko? It feels very real. It's very. Tell everyone.

[Sujin Park]

What is this?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

So I guess tattoo artists practice on these, like, prosthetic hands that they buy on. I'm not a tattoo artist. I'm not trying to do that at all. But they. So. So they can practice on what feels like flesh, you know, at home. And I wanted to do this bit. It was for a stand up bit. That, that. And I just, you know, I was like, I want to try it out, but I have to actually get the prop to see if it works. So I don't know how much it was. $40 or something.

[Kulap Vlasak]

40 bucks for just essentially a fake, fake hand.

[Sujin Park]

This is a fun gift.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I spent $40. Yeah. And I had it, like, shipped as fast as I could because again, I needed it the next day for a show that I was like, this would be a good show to try this at. And the bit was. Okay. So I haven't done it since. Yeah, it's in our Christmas tree, which still. We still have. Up, up, still up. I love that.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Huh?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Huh? Yes.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Christmas year round. Do you think you'll take it down before the next Christmas?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I don't see a need to.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Okay.

[Sujin Park]

This hand looks real.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, it's very. It's a very realistic hand.

[Guest or Producer]

And it does.

[Sujin Park]

And it. When you touch it, does it feel like a real hand?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yes. I know this is an audio, it's a podcast, but I can. It's two seconds away. If I can just show it to you, we can. I would love to capture you Seeing it, you know, audio. You know, I'm a producer too, and I mean.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Yeah. And we know that.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

So just picture me talking, and I'm just like, this is my microphone right here, you know, and so just like, oh. Oh, my God. You know, doesn't it look kind of real? Right? So I'm just. This is me surprised. Oh, my God. You know. Oh, oops. And it bends to the fingers, you know, so I can, you know, plot for an. You know, I have an evil plot, you know, I just. I'm just doing. If you can. Since you can't see what I'm doing. I'm just playing with the hand. But it's very realistic. Yes. And it moves. You know, you can do peace signs. You know, you can flip someone off. You know, have you tried.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Because I know you smoke. Have you tried smoking with that hand?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

You know, it only really fits like a vape pen.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Got it.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. Because it's. It's. It doesn't have bones in it, you know, so you can't really. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I got carried away. I really carried away. In his imagination. I forgot about the bone part. And, you know. Versus this prosthetic hand tattoo artists use just for skin purposes. But, yeah, no, I mean, if you. If you look. It does. I can. I'm about to vape through it.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Let's see. Yeah, go for it. Yeah. See, that's pretty cool.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, so that's why I bought it. And the bit doesn't work. It doesn't work.

[Kulap Vlasak]

It doesn't work because before you said it went okay, but now you're saying

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

it didn't work at all.

[Kulap Vlasak]

You won't do it again?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I think it's okay. Yeah, I wanted it to be this thing where I'm, like, holding the mic with it, but it's so hard to maneuver that and.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Right. It's hard.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

And I talk about squirrels and how wild animals sometimes do wild things, like eat your hand. And then my hand falls off. But it was just really hard to make that happen. It fell off like, the first second I went on stage. I couldn't even say the words. And then I had to admit, like, well, you know, what's sad is I got this rush delivered on Amazon to just do that, you know, so. So those are my buys. Because now this hand is like, I spent $40 on this thing. And it's like. It's partly why I keep the Christmas tree up, because I'm like, well, like, what? What else? Where else I'm gonna put this freaking hand? It's like, may I know. But shoot.

[Kulap Vlasak]

What I would do. I know your lovely husband. While he was sleeping, I would.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

I would put the hand on parts of his body. Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Kulap Vlasak]

That's what I would do to Scott.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah. Do you think that's worth the $40? Like, no.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Well, if you think about, like, 20 bucks is on the Christmas tree, 10 bucks is talking about this on the podcast.

[Guest or Producer]

Five bucks was immigrant math.

[Kulap Vlasak]

This.

[Guest or Producer]

Immigrant math.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah.

[Guest or Producer]

She just high fived her silicone hat.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, that's true. That's. No, that's true. It's about how you spread the $40. Yeah. It's not about displaying it in one location like a Christmas tree and being like, this is it. This is $40. No, it's. How many uses can you get out of it?

[Kulap Vlasak]

Exactly. And, like, if it was me and I had purchased it, that thing would be on Scott's junk almost 24 7.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, my God. What's your address? You can have this hand. Like, I don't need it. I feel like you will get a better use out of this. And you know what you tell him? You know what you tell him when he's like, cool up.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Enough.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Enough of this. Okay, stop. I don't like it. Just be like, hey, one hand in the bush is. What is it? What's the saying? One hand is better than birds of a fe. Yeah, that's it. That's it. You tell him that. Yeah.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Two birds in a bush, one hand on the crotch.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Yeah, yeah, that. Those are some four playing words if I ever heard any. Y' all are horny.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Asuko. Thank you so much for coming on the show, everybody. Please follow her at. At Atsuko Comedy Everywhere. Right, Definitely.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

On Instagram, Instagram, Twitter, but on TikTok, I don't. I couldn't get that one. Okay, so I'm. Let's go Otsuko on there.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Well, I adore you. Thank you so much for taking.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Thank you so much for having me, y'. All. Lots of love is.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Oh, wait, do you have anything to promote?

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Oh, sure. Yeah. I'm [e-mail] for my tour that I'm on right now.

[Kulap Vlasak]

All right, thank you so much.

[Atsuko Okatsuka]

Thank you. Thank you. Yay.

[Kulap Vlasak]

And that's it for this week's episode. Make sure to check out everything we talked about on dtocart Pod and in the show notes. That's right.

[Sujin Park]

And give us a call at 833-453-66662 and tell us, you know, what you're adding to your cards, be it silicone hands or, you know, hot green dresses. You know what I mean? Let us know what you're adding to your cart.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Add to Cart is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producer is Claire Jones. Our mix is by Ivan Kurev and Veronica Rodriguez.

[Sujin Park]

The music is by Wasabi and produced by LA Made it and oh so Familiar with additional music by APM Music. Executive producers are Kulap Vlasak Sujinpak, Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Whittles. Wax.

[Kulap Vlasak]

Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram dtocartpod. Also, please take a moment to rate, review and subscribe to this show. Wherever you get your podcasts.