Add It Again: Skincare Pilgrimages (with Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider)

Summary

Add to Cart with Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak Episode: Add It Again: Skincare Pilgrimages (with Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider) Release Date: June 21, 2025

Add to Cart delves deep into the nuances of skincare journeys with special guests Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider. Hosted by comedian-writer-director Kulap Vilaysack and veteran journalist SuChin Pak, this episode offers an insightful exploration into the world of advanced skincare treatments, cultural influences, and personal transformations.

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Welcome and Introduction

The episode kicks off with Kulap and SuChin warmly welcoming their guests, Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider, who are co-hosts of the popular podcasts Bitch Sash and Garbage Sesh Enterprise Universe. The hosts express excitement about the collective insight their guests bring, comparing their collaboration to assembling a superhero team.

Kulap Vilaysack: "It's like this is our version of the Avengers."
[02:14]

Skincare Pilgrimages to Texas

Casey and Danielle share their experiences with intensive skincare treatments in Texas, highlighting the high costs and exhaustive procedures they underwent. They discuss the physical and emotional toll these pilgrimages take, emphasizing the commitment required for such advanced skincare regimens.

Danielle Schneider: "I never said I was relatable. Now I... took everything outta my cart, drag em out and throw em in the gutter."
[03:11]

SuChin Pak: "And we're talking just face or body."
[04:17]

Advanced Skincare Treatments and Technologies

The conversation delves into specific treatments like laser therapy, lactic acid peels, and vaginal tightening procedures. Danielle details her experience with full-body peels and laser treatments, highlighting the challenges and limited effectiveness of these methods.

Danielle Schneider: "I did like a full body peel where two men were lathering me up with lactic acid on my ass and it was flaking off."
[04:37]

Kulap Vilaysack: "I just got what is known as a clear and brilliant last Monday. It's my second in a series of three. And it does a lot, but I’m seeing 40% at best."
[07:22]

Cultural Perspectives on Skincare

The hosts and guests explore the differences between Korean and American skincare practices. SuChin shares her attempts to translate skincare terms from Korean to English, underscoring the cultural nuances and expectations in beauty standards.

SuChin Pak: "I'm trying to craft this email in Korean to ask her, like, okay, hey, if I wanted to keep this up, what are the equivalent things I should be asking for in an American derm's office?"
[07:19]

Book Discussion: The Island of Sea Women

Danielle introduces her current read, The Island of Sea Women by Lisa, a novel set in Korea that intertwines historical fiction with the lives of female divers. She passionately describes the book's portrayal of friendship, cultural heritage, and the impact of modernization on traditional practices.

Danielle Schneider: "It is an incredible story of friendship and women. I think it's taught me there's so much war going on in this world right now, and it relates on some level to what's going on in this world."
[14:38]

Kuulap Vilaysack: "The men sit at home and take care of the children. It's this opposite world."
[17:28]

Skincare Products and Routines

The discussion shifts to favorite skincare products and routines. Guests share their preferred brands, such as Trihex technology lotions and Avene creams, emphasizing the importance of using quality products tailored to mature skin.

Danielle Schneider: "I slather my face with it and boy, is it the most moisturizing incredible."
[20:07]

Kuulap Vilaysack: "I have spent money on that brand and I saw nothing. I can't imagine how it can be that much better to justify that price difference 100%."
[20:55]

Embracing Minimalist Makeup

SuChin and the guests discuss transitioning to minimalist makeup routines as they age. They express the desire to move away from heavy makeup towards products that enhance natural features without masking their true selves.

SuChin Pak: "At some point, I think now I'm like, I can't even put black eyeliner on. And I'm... just getting into the reckoning of like, my face is different, my skin is different."
[23:05]

Kuulap Vilaysack: "We're just using fingers. We're not a Bobby with a heart eye. We're a Jones."
[25:14]

Healthy Snacking and Lifestyle Choices

The conversation transitions to healthy snacking options, with a focus on Midday Squares—protein bars that are both delicious and nutritious. The hosts highlight the importance of choosing snacks that provide sustained energy without the sugar crash associated with typical options.

Kuulap Vilaysack: "It is the best protein bar, and I have had one every day since the day Casey mentioned that."
[35:27]

Danielle Schneider: "It's so great. And it's not so sugary where you're like, I'm having Snickers."
[36:28]

Innovative Makeup Tools

Casey introduces the Charlotte Tilbury Hollywood Contour Wand, a versatile makeup tool that simplifies the contouring process. She praises its convenience and effectiveness, making it a favorite for those seeking effortless makeup application.

Suchin Pak: "I like that you could just slip this in your purse. You don't need a brush."
[40:02]

Casey Wilson: "It's a set of a contour stick, a highlighter, and sort of a blush stick. And I'll use those three."
[39:00]

Closing Remarks and Future Plans

As the episode wraps up, the hosts and guests reflect on the discussions, expressing gratitude for shared insights and planning future collaborations. They hint at upcoming trips to Korea and continue to promote their respective podcasts and live shows.

Danielle Schneider: "Thank you for such an education today. Thank you. I got so much out of this. For real."
[44:07]

Kuulap Vilaysack: "I'm going to get off this. And we are booking our flights to Korea. Like, let's really. I’m not kidding."
[44:22]

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Notable Quotes

• Danielle Schneider: "It is an incredible story of friendship and women. I think it's taught me there's so much war going on in this world right now."
  [14:38]

• SuChin Pak: "I can't even imagine how it can be that much better to justify that price difference 100%."
  [20:55]

• Suchin Pak: "At some point, I think now I'm like, I can't even put black eyeliner on."
  [23:05]

• Kuulap Vilaysack: "It is the best protein bar, and I have had one every day since the day Casey mentioned that."
  [35:27]

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Conclusion

This episode of Add to Cart offers a comprehensive look into the intricate world of skincare, blending personal experiences with cultural narratives and product discussions. Kulap, SuChin, Casey, and Danielle create a dynamic dialogue that not only educates but also resonates with listeners navigating their own skincare journeys.

For those interested in exploring the topics discussed, follow Casey Wilson on Instagram @CaseyRoseWilson and Danielle Schneider at @DanielleCarolineSchneider. Don’t miss their upcoming live Halloween show on October 26 at New York City Town Hall.

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This summary is based on the transcript provided and aims to encapsulate the essence of the episode for those who haven't listened.

Transcript

[Suchin Pak]

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[Danielle Schneider]

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[Suchin Pak]

Wait.

[Casey Wilson]

Ah. Welcome back to ADD to cart. I'm your Auntie Cuckoo V Lysack.

[Suchin Pak]

Buckle in, buckle in, bitches. I'm your other auntie, Sujin Park. So excited for today.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, man. Our guest today. What can be said that has not been said before?

[Suchin Pak]

Say it again. Say it 10 times.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, I mean, this collective foursome has been long in the making. Honestly, can't believe it took us so long to gather together. I mean, we've had variations, individual, I mean, separately. But now in the Zoom Room, it feels complete. Like this is our version of the Avengers. You know, as you're saying it, I.

[Suchin Pak]

Cannot even believe that this hasn't happened. We meet in the astral plane every morning and throughout the day, so this feels almost redundant to say hello again. It feels rude. It's like, I'm not discounting what we did this morning psychically by bringing them on now. You know, it feels repetitive.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes, yes. Well, our guests today are multifaceted Queens Diamonds, but as a duo, you know them from their podcast Bitch Sash and the Garbage Sesh Enterprise Universe, which is Garbage World. Please add to Cart, Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider.

[Danielle Schneider]

Hello.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Wow, that was an intro.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, we gotta do it. It's only right.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, it's for the humans.

[Casey Wilson]

Casey I gotta bring you into the fold a little bit. Cause I said this to Danielle Soochin Pak just went to South Korea.

[Danielle Schneider]

Oh my. She did take everything outta my cart, then literally empty it and take those products out, drag em out and throw em in the gutter.

[Casey Wilson]

This is what Suchin Pak is saying. After the cheapest, high techiest lasers pointed at her for like case, case, case, case, case, case. The price will blow your mind.

[Danielle Schneider]

Can I hear a price point?

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah, go ahead, Go ahead, Sue.

[Suchin Pak]

To 20 US dollars for everything or one everything.

[Casey Wilson]

Five laser treatments total. Casey is blinking in morse code right now.

[Danielle Schneider]

Yeah, my eyes are like sending a message. I would like to unmask what I recently spe. America, okay? Specifically Texas, which I don't know if your listeners know. I fly to Texas once a year for a pilgrimage to a dermatologist. And you know what? In the words of June Diane Rayfield, I never said I was relatable. Now I. I'm gonna throw a price tag out there for the sake of the listeners. Because if anything, I want people to now go and do this. Okay? This is just to deter.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

We should all be heading.

[Danielle Schneider]

And how angry I am feeling right now, I believe the price. And we got lasered all day and all night. Basically like it was a. We clocked in and clocked out, okay?

[Suchin Pak]

And we're talking just face or body.

[Danielle Schneider]

I did somebody. I did like a full body peel where two men were lathering me up with lactic acid on my ass and it was flaking off.

[Casey Wilson]

But.

[Danielle Schneider]

But the lasers, I gotta say, sue, were just face and dick.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, sure. Of course.

[Danielle Schneider]

Now I also got a vaginal tightening. You know, there was other services, but what a wand. A woman basically took like a toothbrush and then tiny circular little movements, the vaginal walls for 45 minutes while I was on laughing gas.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Now can I ask you where the wand is going? Is she going into the lips or is she going into like the actual.

[Danielle Schneider]

Spends like 14 minutes on four quadrants. Then she goes in. And when she went in, it's just her fingers. Sorry.

[Suchin Pak]

This is why this treatment is only in Texas.

[Danielle Schneider]

Now certain I want to say though is the price tag, okay? And this doesn't include the southwest flight, but we did do Southwest. Now I. It's such a terrible experience, but full, total, I want to say I was at 13K. And that's me being real. I want to be real here, guys. I'm sorry.

[Casey Wilson]

No, I. Thank you.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, so now this is my question. Because by the way, a full day, that's also bargain basement compared to what the prices are in la.

[Danielle Schneider]

And that is why I flew to Houston, partially.

[Suchin Pak]

Yes. So that makes sense. Okay, so my question is, is you've done this before. What I'm curious about, because I've never done this, is I talked to a friend of mine who does this regularly in LA. Cause I said 90 for the stubborn ones, maybe full erasure spots. I asked her, I said, well, what. After you do your treatment, what are we talking? She's like, tops.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

40% agree. Yeah, I would say 40%. I would say 40.

[Suchin Pak]

So there's also that factor right now.

[Danielle Schneider]

Are you just getting rid of brown spots, or may I ask, are we targeting fine lines? Are we doing any filler? Because I, of course, threw some stuff in my face. Not just laser, but are you doing, like, Fraxel software? Are we talking that. Are we talking, like, a limelight? Let's get the brown spots off from the sun.

[Suchin Pak]

I wish that I could give you all those names, and I don't even need them.

[Danielle Schneider]

I'm already going.

[Suchin Pak]

And I know, but I need it. I'm trying to. I've been, since I've been back, trying to craft this email in Korean to ask her, like, okay, hey, if I wanted to keep this up, what are the equivalent things I should be asking for in an American derm's office? So that is tbd, because you go to these places and they're just. They're Korean. They're like, what do you want? You want all this off, right? It's dirty, right? You want it clean? I mean, these are the terms that we're using here.

[Danielle Schneider]

And I'm like, plain talk straight up.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

When I tell you I was just for one treatment. Okay. I just got what is known as a clear and brilliant last Monday. It's my second in a series of three. And it does a lot, but it takes. I mean, that itself took like an hour with numbing cream, and I'm seeing 40% at best.

[Suchin Pak]

I didn't include the numbing cream. The numbing cream is 40 minutes, then the treatment is about 20 minutes.

[Danielle Schneider]

So wait, I'm sorry. She did your body, too?

[Casey Wilson]

She can.

[Suchin Pak]

I didn't have any, but my friend has all these, like, little cherry, like, anginome. Is that what they're called? Like, they're like little.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

So it come with a.

[Suchin Pak]

She's just standing there, and she's like, what else do you want? And you're like, oh, can you. Is this. Can you get this area here? She's just that. And there's many lasers. And. And she'll go through your face. Like, she'll. She's like, you got this thing near your eye. Do you want me to get rid of that? Yes. Okay. This thing on your forehead. What I'm saying is, all I did was texture and brown spots and poor size to me now.

[Danielle Schneider]

Poor size? Your skin looks porcelain right now. Like, it looks so good.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

We need to book this now. We need to book this now.

[Danielle Schneider]

And do they clean up the vagina like I had?

[Suchin Pak]

I have a feeling in Korea that would have you escorted out. But, hey, that's just my.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

My very American.

[Danielle Schneider]

Yeah, I'll continue to take that business.

[Suchin Pak]

To Houston, keep that business in Houston. Keep it pretty much nips up. Nips up. Where the experts are. Like, I don't even think that that would be where their expertise is in Korea, you know? So nips up.

[Casey Wilson]

We can talk about a trip next year to South Korea.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

We literally are just going further and further away for our treatments.

[Danielle Schneider]

Like, but think about it. You get the experience of going to South Korea, so that's, like, priceless, right? To experience.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I just want to go to South Korea.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah.

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, we'll be scurrying in subway malls because after this, you just don't want to be in the sun. And. And that's totally fine. I mean, Korea is built on subway malls, so it'll be the. You'll have the full authentic experience is what I'm saying. You know what I mean?

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I just go from the clinic to the Korean barbecue clinic. Korean barbecue. Like, that's. That's where we'll find ourselves.

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[Suchin Pak]

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[Casey Wilson]

I love this.

[Suchin Pak]

It's like, why am I in this city? Why is this language being spoken so beautifully? I need to get in it. You know, there's no way to really get into the nooks and crannies of a city other than to learn the language.

[Casey Wilson]

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[Suchin Pak]

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[Casey Wilson]

Guilty. That's my name. In this day in economy, I want gorgeous things that will last. And I needed to refresh my baby girl Emmy's summer wardrobe and I sure did. I got her. Count em. Not one, not two, but three different swimsuits from Quint's. I'm talking the long sleeve zip up Rashguard, one piece in Flamingo palms. I'm talking a Tankini, a longini sleeve Raglan rashguard set in strawberries. That's three pieces honey. And a long sleeve tie. One piece swimsuit. In what version? Under the sea. So cute. Got little sea creatures with a little ruffle bottom. It's adorable.

[Suchin Pak]

I love a ruffle bottom. I haven't even told you, Koo. I have to fill my suitcase with gifts to bring back to my Korean relatives. And so for my OG aunties, I'm doing the Quince hydrolyzed collagen powder because they are obsessed. And then I got this really cute Italian leather crossbody clutch for my cousin. So they're all just going to get quints.

[Casey Wilson]

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[Kuulap Velasquez]

See, I discovered this book. I'm always looking for an epic tale, a little historical fiction, if you will. And, and you know, when I ask in my groups we have our, Our Discord in Garbage World. And then I'm also on a Goodreads list. No big name dropping.

[Casey Wilson]

She's a reader.

[Suchin Pak]

Those lenses are prescription.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Exactly. These aren't for show bitches. It was because I read so goddamn much. So anyway, this book has blown me away. I'm almost done. I have like 30 more pages. It is beautiful. It is set in Korea and it is about this collective of women in the 1920s and 30s. And then it goes from there. Who basically are these collective of women that are these almost like fishermen but with their bodies that go down really deep? Yes, they're divers. Fishermen with no divers. And they go all the way down in the coldest of water. And scientists like study them. It's like this incredible. They can hold their breath for all this time and it's this really dangerous work. And the men sit at home and take care of the children. It's this, this opposite world. But it's true. It's based in truth. And it is a beautiful story of friendship. And I don't know, I always Feel like reading teaches empathy, you know what I mean? Like a whole world, a whole culture, a whole society of, you know, people that you didn't know before and now you're in love with them. And it makes you think of all the other people in this world that you don't know and don't know anything about, and a whole other culture. And this is also during the war. It's right before the Korean War, so there was obviously a lot of brutality and prejudice and stuff going on for the Japanese with Koreans, Americans with Koreans. And it is. Makes me hate everybody and also love everybody and just. It's an incredible story of strength and friendship and women. I think it's taught me there's so much war going on in this world right now, and it relates on some level to what's going on in this world. To me, I just feel such love and empathy for people, and I. I don't want any harm to come to anyone. And I don't know. I think it's a beautiful story.

[Suchin Pak]

I totally agree with you, especially when you're talking about a topic like this. These deep sea divers.

[Casey Wilson]

Sue, how do you pronounce it?

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah. And, you know, they've been doing this for generations. It's just how they make their living. It's on a little island called Jeju, which is like the Hawaii of Korea.

[Danielle Schneider]

And.

[Suchin Pak]

And they've been doing it for, you know, generations. And the whole thing is dying, obviously, because of modernization. And so there's a whole movement of, like, trying to, like, preserve and keep this culture that, you know, is. Is so deeply rooted in all of the things that you're talking about.

[Casey Wilson]

Yeah. There's actually a recent documentary that's on Apple tv, which is the Last of the Sea women. Right now, most of the women are in their 60s, 70s, so to reiterate what Soochen is saying of them being sort of a dying breed.

[Suchin Pak]

Danielle, thank you for bringing the other side of Korean culture to this podcast because.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

And it's so funny.

[Danielle Schneider]

That was quite a monologue. I'm like, I was talking about a Korean Ulthera treatment.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I happen to be reading and almost done with it, and I'm just. It's not even try. Believe me, I'll get it. I want my face done, too.

[Suchin Pak]

I know. I'm genuinely like, let's. Thank you, Daniel, for reminding us.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Well, I'd like to go to this island, too, on our Korean trip. If we could do that. Maybe that would be a dream for.

[Casey Wilson]

Me to go to Jeju Island.

[Danielle Schneider]

It would feel A balance. More of a balance, I think, for all of us.

[Casey Wilson]

Let's be willing to just swing back and forth. Okay.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah. I got other things we gotta.

[Casey Wilson]

You know, like Casey, let's get into the transform body treatment with something called Trihex technology.

[Danielle Schneider]

This is the highest price point thing I've brought to add to cart other than my Balsam Hill tree, you know, a few years ago. Okay. But that was something you could use for years to come. This is more of a lotion that goes into your skin and you repurchase.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Danielle Schneider]

But it's called the last. And it's so funny that you're talking about all this suchin to start because I got it from my Houston dermatologist who I love so much, Dr. Jenny Siegel of Metropolitan Dermatological Institute. She's the best ever and she gives us this product. Product to put on after your skin has been what can only be described as burned. And so it's on one level, wound care. On the other level, I myself am. I'm getting older and I have noticed. I don't know if anybody else has. You guys are in such good shape. But like crepey skin, I don't know if that.

[Suchin Pak]

Those words we have here, the neck crepe. Crepe.

[Danielle Schneider]

It's. It's been proven with that tri technology, whatever, that was cool. And you know, I don't know what it is, but there is some of that tech and it is. I don't know if it's masking it or curing it.

[Suchin Pak]

Try Hex technology.

[Danielle Schneider]

Try Hex. And it's called Elastin. And they have incredible products. Now the other thing I'm just going to quickly say is what I like about the dermatologist in Houston is she wants you to use more of the like drugstore products for your everyday. And that's controversial. But my skin is looking great with Avener. Is that what it's called? Danielle Avene. And it's sold in drugstores primarily. Like, it's. I think it's a French brand. But she. I use this thing called Sickle Fate, which the French use as diaper cream for their babies.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Oh.

[Danielle Schneider]

But I slather my face with it and boy, is it the most moisturizing. Incredible.

[Suchin Pak]

It.

[Danielle Schneider]

You gotta really work to get it in there because it's thicker, you know, it's thick.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah. It will turn your skin like a pasty white, like a butt cream does to a child's ass.

[Danielle Schneider]

That's right.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

You know.

[Danielle Schneider]

You know, but it is $28. And it is unbelievable. It's one all these awards. So I just wanted to throw that.

[Casey Wilson]

Out there as well.

[Suchin Pak]

I love that Sickle Fate, whatever that line is. I think they have other products in that line that I've tried, but, you know, you realize, like, I don't want to say that the. What is that line? The Augustin Bader.

[Danielle Schneider]

Augustus Bader, I'm sure.

[Suchin Pak]

Wonderful.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I spent money on that brand and I saw nothing.

[Casey Wilson]

I was like.

[Suchin Pak]

Because this line and this barrier cream is. There's no better.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah.

[Suchin Pak]

I can't. I can't imagine how it can be that much better to justify that price difference 100%.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

Well, let's talk about Westman Atelier Vital Skincare Complexion Drops.

[Danielle Schneider]

Okay. This is just sad that all Danielle and I submitted was skincare. And I'm so happy. Danielle, you submitted it?

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Don't forget my book.

[Suchin Pak]

Nobody sat here.

[Danielle Schneider]

I submitted that book, too. I said, danielle, bring that book.

[Suchin Pak]

I see no tears. We are on the right place.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

No, these are what's important to me. These are my daily nutrients. Okay. These. This new Drops, okay. Was. It was introduced to me at a new. A little shop that does, like, sort of organic skincare that in Larchmont Village called Credo Beauty. I don't know if you guys have been to Credo.

[Casey Wilson]

I haven't.

[Danielle Schneider]

Natural worries me. Go on.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

And there's also one in Silver Lake by the Claire V. Oh, but so it's right in your hoods, guys.

[Casey Wilson]

And wait, that's, like, where I get my bikini waxes at Stark Wax.

[Danielle Schneider]

Say.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah, it's near Stark. It's near Stark. I'm going to start later today. Got to get these brows done. But this is like, I don't like to wear, you know, like, base or whatever. You know what I mean?

[Casey Wilson]

Foundation.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Foundation. We used to call it base back in the day.

[Danielle Schneider]

Rouge. Rouge, I was just going to say.

[Casey Wilson]

And base.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

But now this is like, it's almost a primer. But they have your color of skin. And when I tell you I wear it now, I don't even need that. Like, your skin still shows through, but it's causing, like, a layer, like a glimmering layer that softens my pores, softens everything. So it's still you. And you don't feel like. Because I don't like, like, heavy makeup. I feel like I'm wearing a mask all day. But this doesn't feel like that. It's like a blurring effect, like a layer. A blurring effect. This brand is made for also Of a certain age, you know, who need a blurring and it's expensive. But you guys, it is the future. It is incredible.

[Casey Wilson]

It's $68.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, so it's breaking the three digits.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

It's not breaking the bank. It's a small thing, though. You're going to have to go back to the well pretty soon.

[Danielle Schneider]

It says on here it's the strength of a serum, the beauty of a skin tint.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Guys, this is changing my world.

[Suchin Pak]

God bless, I'll try it. May I just offer to that like women of a certain age. It is true after a while, you know, you get used to putting your makeup on and using certain products your whole life. Like since you started wearing makeup, twenty thirds. And it works fine and great and you're gorgeous.

[Danielle Schneider]

Right.

[Suchin Pak]

At some point. And it is. For me, it was like a handbrake, you know what I mean? At a full like 90 miles down and someone just pulled it. Everything I was using just was like, wow, that is not working. I feel like I'm just getting into the re reckoning of like, my face is different, my skin is different. And one of the things I'm realizing is, is that like less is where you have to wrap your head around. Because in your 20s and 30s, you're like winged eyeliner. You know, this and bronzer and full on drag and that for some reason, like, you can get away with it. And I think now I'm like, I can't even put black eyeliner on. And I'm. I was gonna get that tattooed.

[Danielle Schneider]

Why? Because it just looks too harsh or what?

[Suchin Pak]

It's harsh.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

It.

[Suchin Pak]

It almost even closes my eyes.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah, it makes my eyes get really closed. And so like when I smile, which.

[Suchin Pak]

Before it was the opposite.

[Danielle Schneider]

Yeah, that's the hooded lid effect of sort.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, it is the harshness. But what does the harshness do? It like, it makes everything drag down.

[Danielle Schneider]

I see.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

So I've graduated to a brown and to hazing it haze. Like kind of like not even a straight line. You kind of like blend it. And that is in the last six months.

[Suchin Pak]

Whenever I saw Bobby Brown commercial and they were just blending in and I was like, ugh, those old people have no. You know what I mean? Like, that's never going to be me. And here I am.

[Danielle Schneider]

I like Bobby Brown's new line, Jones Road.

[Casey Wilson]

Jones Road.

[Suchin Pak]

That's right. Because we are old ass women.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

We are going down that road.

[Suchin Pak]

We're just using fingers.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

We're not a Bobby with a heart eye. We're a Jones.

[Casey Wilson]

We're a Jones road now, Sue, I'm really happy to hear this. Does this mean with this reckoning, you will start to dump your MTV makeup that you've been hoarding and sitting on for decades?

[Suchin Pak]

You know what? The thing is, is I'm not dumping it because I think there's something wrong with it. I'm dumping it because it's a new era and I don't need it. Do you understand the difference? Do you understand the difference? Yeah.

[Casey Wilson]

If we needed to go into.

[Suchin Pak]

There's a lot of blue, deep eyeshadow situations happening. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of heavy violet pigment, and it's just my face can't carry it anymore. She's a delicate sea diver.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Thank you, Sue. I am on this. I have had the same reckoning this year. It's been an incredible journey. I saw a picture of me with black eyeliner where I was brought to your knees. That troll up. Who is that? Old Trollope. That's what I thought.

[Suchin Pak]

So we've got bass, We've got rouge and trollop. I'm just keeping a mental.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Really age person.

[Suchin Pak]

I don't think that there's anyone listening anymore.

[Danielle Schneider]

No, I don't think there is.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

My father. My father.

[Suchin Pak]

No, he's not tuning in. That's the thing. He can't find podcast app.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

He can't find it podcast app. But when I record it on a tape recorder for him and he puts it in his tape player.

[Casey Wilson]

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[Suchin Pak]

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[Casey Wilson]

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[Suchin Pak]

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[Casey Wilson]

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[Suchin Pak]

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[Danielle Schneider]

I went the other way suchin so my makeup has always been super like sheer nothing cuz I don't know how to do it so I'm just like whatever little bit I can do to try to pull something together. But I have like terrible rosacea so as much as I want to do like a skin tin I have to cover. I didn't know that much like Kim Kardashian psoriasis. I've kept it under a bushel as a secret. Private.

[Casey Wilson]

But I've literally been in Cars where you're putting on a full face of makeup.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I've woken up next to you.

[Danielle Schneider]

I mean, what does that change the fact that I have a rosy face? I mean, you're saying I thought it.

[Suchin Pak]

Was a healthy flush?

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Well, I'm saying I didn't notice any, like, big rosacea.

[Danielle Schneider]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll take a photos for you guys.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I have seen Kim Kardashian's though Eczema.

[Suchin Pak]

I haven't seen Gauntlet Throne, but I.

[Danielle Schneider]

Went the other way on Friday night. My niece, who is 14, slept over. Now we are watching Suddenly I am a 14 year girl. I've got candy bags in the bed. I'm watching Outer Banks, a show that is. It just.

[Suchin Pak]

It is sugar candy.

[Danielle Schneider]

It's insane.

[Casey Wilson]

Last weekend I was with Kai, who's 14. He loves that show. I know.

[Danielle Schneider]

I'm like, what am I looking at? But I was also right there with it, loving it.

[Casey Wilson]

I'm like, they're treasure hunters. Like, what? Yes.

[Danielle Schneider]

It knows no genre.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Okay, let me just say that the Goonies. What is this?

[Danielle Schneider]

So the next. Next thing I know, I say to her, I don't know how to do my makeup. And she's like, well, you just need to just finally do it. I'm pulling out to look at this. She's like, you need to just do it. Go on, TikTok. Put your goddamn phone up against the mirror and do it with someone. And she introduces me to a young upstart named Olivia Chatfield.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay, guys.

[Danielle Schneider]

Okay.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I love her.

[Danielle Schneider]

Now at first glance, you're like, I'm a bit different than Olivia Chatfield.

[Suchin Pak]

In what way?

[Danielle Schneider]

But I want to celebrate those differences with Olivia, okay? I really do. Because she's as cute as could be. She's gorgeous. She's not going to shy away from also admitting mental health struggles, but she's gonna show you what's in her bag many times. And she's definitely going to show you what a night out in Miami is. But she's also going to really take you through her makeup, be it a day look or a night look. And the next thing I know, Emma and I marched ourselves to Sephora, and boy, did I let Olivia Chatfield influence me. So some of these things are the opposite than what Suchin and Danielle are saying. So maybe for your listeners of all ages.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh, you're going to speak to the Olivia demo.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

You're the youth Vote.

[Suchin Pak]

I love how Casey has positioned herself.

[Casey Wilson]

Right there as a youth ambassador.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Danielle Schneider]

I'm saying I don't know if these things will work.

[Casey Wilson]

We have another correspondent, if you will, Deanna Chang, our device detective. Now, Deanna will only follow influencers who are 60 plus. And you're the other direction.

[Danielle Schneider]

Olivia is 24. You're producing.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Why am I listening to this?

[Danielle Schneider]

24 year old Olivia finds making sushi easy. Okay. That's just kind of girl Olivia is now.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay.

[Danielle Schneider]

She's not gonna just buy a bag to buy it, guys.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Danielle Schneider]

Okay. And she's, you know, she's got a new Pomeranian and things are going well.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

You have yet to tell me anything about her makeup. I know she has a dog. I know she makes sushi.

[Suchin Pak]

What is her makeup?

[Danielle Schneider]

Her makeup is great. She, like, will try on like six glasses and have like 16 million people checking in to see how they hit the light. You know, she just. She will teach you some things. The main thing she's teaching which. Susan, I'm curious. Do you think I should just not even try this? Okay. Is, you know, I'll do bronzer. I feel like bronzer. We. We all know that, right? But this is like, you know, like the Kardashian style, like contour drops that I'm throwing on and then trying to blend in. And I haven't tried it yet, but I'm. Do you think that I should just not even try it at 44?

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, the answer is you have to try it. You have to try everything at 44. Because that's what I'm saying is, is that all that stuff that we were conditioned to think that was working for us in the 20s and 30s, like, that has to be re examined, and that can only be re examined with just buying more stuff.

[Danielle Schneider]

Okay, well, you know what's interesting is these young gals now are doing so many steps of skin care, so many mixings of fragrances, so much things with makeup. It's almost like sometimes. And I don't want to ever comment on a woman's looks, and so I'm not going to, but sometimes I think young gals these days are making themselves look older.

[Casey Wilson]

That's right.

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, duh. Yeah.

[Danielle Schneider]

So maybe we should be taking their wisdom, huh? And they are wiser than us.

[Casey Wilson]

Let me. Hold on, hold on. Let's take that back. Let's take that back.

[Danielle Schneider]

Well, if they're making it 24, if they're making themselves look 35 and I'm 44, maybe it and we all mean.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

The middle is what you're saying we all need.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, Got it, got it, got it. Now, when you explain the math, we're. We're back on.

[Danielle Schneider]

Thank you.

[Suchin Pak]

We're back on the ditto sheet.

[Danielle Schneider]

Thank you.

[Suchin Pak]

We're smelling the ink.

[Danielle Schneider]

I am coming off on this podcast like a just monstrous little pig. Okay? So I apologize to everyone.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

It's because I brought on this book I really like. We were all at the.

[Suchin Pak]

Danielle's fault.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

It's because I brought this book. We were all the same page, and I took it somewhere else. I'm so sorry.

[Casey Wilson]

Look, we need. We need the dark. We need the light. We need the.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

The deep. We need the.

[Suchin Pak]

That's right, that's right, that's right.

[Casey Wilson]

Danielle, let's talk about these midday squares, this peanut butter midday squares.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Now, Casey actually introduced me to these. She spoke about them on our podcast, and then they sent us them. And they're a smaller company, like you, and they're expensive as well. Food for a bar. But when I tell you it is the best protein bar, and I have had one every day since the day Casey mentioned that.

[Suchin Pak]

What do you mean by that?

[Kuulap Velasquez]

It is delicious. It is filling.

[Casey Wilson]

It is.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I've never had something this delicious that is also this filling. That is like a protein bar.

[Danielle Schneider]

It's so great. And it's not so sugary where you're like, I'm having Snickers.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Danielle Schneider]

You know, it's not that. And I want to just shout out the peanut butter. They taste like a Reese's cup. But you have to keep them in the fridge. I just want to say that. And then the cookie dough is heaven.

[Casey Wilson]

Oh, my God.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I like the peanut butter crunch one. The blue packaging, it's my favorite. But I also like the cookie dough and I also like the peanut butter. They're all delicious. I literally have one in my purse every day. It's the first thing I do when I wake up in the morning.

[Danielle Schneider]

I put it in my purse. They more than hold you over, but it's not a meal, if that makes sense. And you don't feel like a sugar crash. You just feel great.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

It's my everyday. Between breakfast and lunch, you're in your car.

[Danielle Schneider]

I'm so hungry. I don't have an option here.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

It is so good. Like, my target doesn't always have them, so I'm always, like, looking. I've gone to crazy targets to find them. Like, I. I get them now just delivered straight from midday squares because I.

[Suchin Pak]

Because. Yeah. And because the alternative Is. And, And I am like a, Like a car raccoon. Right? Like, it's. For some reason as soon I'm about 15 minutes into, like, running errands in my car and I'm starving, and so I have to bring out my package of whatever I've put together, and I just can't get down with the meat stick. And I know that that is. That marketing there is pushed really hard because I, you know, sometimes I just. I'm like, should I just have meat sticks in here? Because I'm so hungry. And now I'm just eating junk.

[Danielle Schneider]

And women of a certain age also need protein. And I hate to see.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah. And it's grams and it's small because sometimes I look at an energy bar, I'm like, I, I. That'll take me three sittings to get through.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

No, and what is great about it is, like, when you're starving, you know how, like, when you're starving your car and you're like, oh, I have to go to Target, so I'm just gonna pick up chips or something like, this is just in my purse again, you have to refrigerate them over. Like, they have to be in the refrigerator, and then you take them out for the day. You know what I mean? Like, you can have it out for the day, but you can't just keep it in your car for three days like that.

[Danielle Schneider]

No, but that makes me feel it's fresher in a way. Like, it's gotta be.

[Suchin Pak]

Like, they're using real ingredients.

[Danielle Schneider]

Right.

[Suchin Pak]

These are all conjectures that we could look into and verify, but I won't be doing that.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Not going to.

[Casey Wilson]

No, no, no, no.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Why do I need to rain on my parade? I don't need to.

[Danielle Schneider]

They're 2.79 each, right, Danielle?

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah. Which is a little pricey for, like, next to, like, a kind bar.

[Danielle Schneider]

I kind of don't think so as much when. If you're gonna get, I guess, like, how much is a kind bar?

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I think they're like 1 65, but they're filling.

[Suchin Pak]

These are.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I don't like them.

[Suchin Pak]

Vegan certified, dairy free, soy free, kosher certified. So that's. That's why you're paying.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

And I would just get through a kind bar. Like, you know how, like, you're like, I just need nutrients right now, so I'm gonna get through this and eat it and I'll have the nutrients. No, I'm enjoying this.

[Danielle Schneider]

Yes, that's what I was gonna say. It's a. It's also a Dopamine hit. You know, like, when you're running errands, you're just like, I'm. Ugh. But you're like, ooh, a little treat is what you say to yourself.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Oh, this is my treat. This is a treat.

[Casey Wilson]

Wow. Okay. Okay, we're gonna end with one more. I'm gonna assume Olivia Rec, which is the Charlotte Tilbury Hollywood Contour Wand.

[Danielle Schneider]

Now, that is the wand that I have not tried, unfortunately.

[Suchin Pak]

How long did your niece stay with you? Just.

[Danielle Schneider]

She stayed with me all day, but she did show me how she uses it, and it just looks so great. So we were looking at people on TikTok using it, and it just looked so wonderful. So I was just trying to bring something from the youth.

[Casey Wilson]

I 100% am using from. In many Instagram ads, this, like, set of contour sticks. So I'm. I'm 100% like the nude sticks. I can't pull it right now. Yeah, yeah. I think there's like, OG or something like that.

[Danielle Schneider]

Okay.

[Casey Wilson]

Much like Danielle like to do less on my face, but I'll make sure to do that. And it's a set of a contour stick, a highlighter, and sort of a blush stick. And I'll use those three.

[Danielle Schneider]

And does it teach you where to put it on and how to use it, or did you have to, like, look that up?

[Casey Wilson]

Well, looked it up on their site or on their Instagram or various influencers using it now. That's it.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Doing this thing, that's what I do.

[Casey Wilson]

I make that Z. But we go higher now.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Yeah.

[Danielle Schneider]

And this is.

[Suchin Pak]

This is a Charlotte Tilbur Contour Wand. These are the things I like about it. I like that you could just slip this in your purse. You don't need a brush.

[Casey Wilson]

Yes.

[Suchin Pak]

You're not going to use your fingers. And it almost looks like almost a lip gloss is kind of the packaging of it. So you just dot, dot, dot. My second point to this is that because contrary to my Korean derm, who asked me while I was on the table, do you know what sunscreen is? And we're going to put that aside. I use so much mineral sunscreen, and it doesn't matter, you know, you can blend it. Da, da, da. There's always going to be a little bit of a cast. And frankly, you want it because then you're like, well, I know that this is actually doing its thing. So having a little bit of color back in in a simple way is something I haven't been able to figure out yet.

[Danielle Schneider]

I was just gonna Say, I know we're wrapping up one more quick thing that is more meaningful perhaps from. But also relates to sunscreen. And my Houston dermatologist, which is, you know, I've had some skin cancer kind of like approaching things like that. And I'm obsessed with sunscreen, too. And, you know, we live in Southern California. It's so hot. And he said, you know, some people get their windows tinted, you know, for the sun. But he said there's like 3M has now making new windshields you can put on your car that block so much more rays. That is especially if you're, you know, prone to. If you have skin cancer in your family or something that you can take your car. And I don't know the price, but I was not. I thought it would be like so much more. And I know this is vague information, but I'm going to get that done to my car.

[Casey Wilson]

Casey Su Jin, I think, has something to say because she just purchased a.

[Suchin Pak]

Similar product that I didn't think about getting my car tinted. But I have at least a car. I don't know if that's allowed, but I have now post laser. Bought a little screen that, like, goes down for my side window on Amazon. And it's. Yeah. On the driver's side. And it's suction cups and it's. They say it's UV protection. So I'm just gonna go ahead and pull that shade down.

[Danielle Schneider]

I wear a sunscreen shawl, too, from Coola that I drape and sometimes gloves that go up because, you know, your left arm gets such sun damage from driving.

[Casey Wilson]

Okay. I love this, Casey, I didn't realize you were a full on Asian woman.

[Danielle Schneider]

I'll throw on a fingerless glove. Not afraid. I have so admired the culture. When I see a woman carrying some type of umbrella parasol, I feel like I am you. I love you. I just.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

There is a woman in my neighborhood who wears. She walks every day. I see her every morning walking. Huge hat, gloves. Totally like face under Nicole Kidman's. No, not a piece of skin showing. And I honor her today.

[Casey Wilson]

Respect the commitment.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I don't know what she looks like, but I know I love her. I know that I want to be her.

[Casey Wilson]

Amazing. Wow. Wow.

[Suchin Pak]

What a revealing, predictable journey.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Oh, don't forget about this guy.

[Casey Wilson]

Don't forget Danielle's about lifting us up.

[Danielle Schneider]

Yes. And that's the most important thing today. Don't drive.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Diving with the sea.

[Suchin Pak]

So we're gonna keep that and we're not cutting that out. Okay, Got it.

[Casey Wilson]

That's all for today's episode.

[Suchin Pak]

You can find Casey.

[Danielle Schneider]

I'm sorry if the show's over after this episode.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I really am sorry if we got you canceled.

[Casey Wilson]

You can buy Casey on Insta at Casey Rose Wilson and Danielle at Danielle Caroline Schneider. Anything to let the people know you've. I know you've got live shows in New York coming up.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

We're doing our live Halloween show October 26, New York City Town Hall. There's we do like kind of an annual costume contest where everyone does sort of Bravo cosplay. There are. You don't have to but it's just a really fun show and we have that coming up and we're really excited.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Danielle Schneider]

And our podcast is called Bitch Sesh and you can find it at Garbage World. Casey and Danielle's Garbage World.

[Casey Wilson]

Brilliant, brilliant gems you both are. Thank you so much for coming on.

[Danielle Schneider]

Thank you for such an education today. Thank you. I got so much out of this. For real.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

I'm going to get off this. And we are booking our flights to Korea. Like, let's really. I I'm not kidding.

[Suchin Pak]

There's more. Add to Carte with Lemonade Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content like where we tell you about the last item we bought or returned and why. Subscribe now in Apple Podcasts.

[Casey Wilson]

Add to Cart is a production of Lemon on Media. Our producers are Keegan Zema and Tiffany Bui. Brian Castillo is our engineer.

[Suchin Pak]

Theme music is by Wasabi and produced by LA Made it and oh so familiar with additional music by APM Music. Executive producers are Kulap Velaisat Sujinpak, Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Whittles.

[Kuulap Velasquez]

Wax.

[Casey Wilson]

Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram D2Cart Pod. Follow add to Cart wherever you get your podcast or listen ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership.

[Danielle Schneider]

On August 9, 2014, a police officer shot and killed Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, setting off 400 days of uprising. Hands up. Don't shoot.

[Suchin Pak]

Hands up.

[Danielle Schneider]

That's what the world saw. What they didn't see was the family, the grief and the young man behind the headlines. Now his mother, Leslie McSpadden, tells her story of love, loss and the fight for justice. I'm still Mike's Mom. Once you're a mother, you never forget how to mother. From lemonada Media and Campaign Zero.

[Casey Wilson]

Still My Baby is coming out May 27th.