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Carters. Here in our world, where getting the shoppies is glorified, we love when a company like Shopify takes this noble hobby and upgrades the experience. Imagine after hours, sometimes months of searching, you finally find the perfect waterproof trench coat for say, a trip to Italy that is crisp and chic and slouchy in the right spots. Seeing that purple pay button that has all your information already saved, making checkout as simple as a flirty tap on the screen.
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Add to cart will always be a Quince family. It's true. It's everything we aunties believe in. You know, they have elevated daily essentials. They have quality luxury items. They use safe, ethical factories. They have timeless styles that will not end up in the garbage bin after a wash at affordable prices. Quince can give you these prices because they're not paying for brand markups. And that saving goes to us. And in this time when we're all reconfiguring where we buy from and why, Quince is just a no brainer coo. As always for me, it's about the casual.
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That's right, you're a cashmere queen.
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Cashmere queen. Affordable cashmere of course.
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Of course.
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Catch me okay at the farmer's market on Saturdays with my new Mongolian cashmere fisherman quarter zip sweater in burgundy. I sometimes zip it up all the way at the start of the market and then as it gets warmer, that zip comes down. Just a sko.
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Wow. You little tease. Refresh your wardrobe with quints. Go to quince.com addtocart for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N c e.com addtocart to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quints.com addtocart also with that fire boy. Bling bling.
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You forgot your bling bling.
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Wait. Chartist it is the first week of February 2026. Welcome to another episode of Add to Cart, the podcast about what we buy and what we buy into. I am your auntie Cuckoo Velasak.
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And I'm your other auntie, Soojin Park. And thank you for starting it off on grounding us in what day and year we're in. I know, man. Just that date alone sitting here, I actually have like a torso chill. Like my armpits are sweating. Just wow. February 2026. This is what it looks like. This is what we thought 2026 February was gonna look like.
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I am just getting by and all I can hold onto is like lunar New Year. And lunar New year is like. And again like Suchin celebrates. I'm Southeast Asian, but what I am, I'm. I'm grasping at straws for a upheaval, you know of. I'm like the way that I wanna get on the year of a fire horse. The way that I want to jump on the fire horse, bare back like a Mongolian steppe warrior aflame and just burn everything down. That is like the imagery and this like hope that I'm like just I'm in the mud being pulled down by unseen and seen forces and I'm pounce.
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Full tits, full skin, skin from contact.
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My tits to my knees. Skin to skin. That's right.
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Socks on, gloves on, safety first. But skin to skin, mid body contact with a fiber.
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The way that my rolls are clinging to my other roles. Skin to skin.
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I can't wait to see your canva art for this ep. I cannot wait to see that. But the visual in my mind, it just. Yeah, I. That's where we are. And if you're not there, I applaud you in some ways because you are living the life of meditation and every self soothing, healing modality. You've built a crystal cave. You've gone back to the womb. You're only bathing in salt water. I don't know. But for most of us we must sit together right now. Yes, that's what we must do. And we must heal.
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I don't know when that then we're gonna be able to do that. I mean like there's it's triage right now. Which leads me to. If you are moved and able, please add to cart the website standwithminnesota.com. you know, times are tough for everybody. But what's happening in Minnesota is the place that I grew up, the place that my family is at right now, where they go to school, where they live, where my mother lives alone in St. Paul.
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Where your nephew goes to school. Is he even in school now? Today? Who knows? Day to day.
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Take it day by day. Take day by day. You know. Oh, gosh, it's just. It's terrifying. It's so terrifying. So I'm doing what I can today through that site. I donated to the Women's foundation of Minnesota Immigrant Rapid Response Fund. And we're going to have all these links on social media in the show notes. I also gave to tending the soil, support front light organizers demanding justice and shutting down ICE in Minnesota fund I gave to a fund to support the Bryant neighborhood families in urgent needs. If you go on the site, it's really well organized. There's a long list of mutual aid and material purchasing funds organized by categories. So today I gave to Hamlin Midway Diaper Formula, Hygiene and medical Supply, also to the Minneapolis Rapid Response Emergency Defense Fund so that they can purchase PPE and safety equipment for community members legally. Legally observing and defending themselves against unconstitutional federal immigration enforcement in my home state of Minnesota. I'm also after. We record many of. You know, we have been getting almost sniper like targeted raids throughout Los Angeles. And I will be giving to various like street vendor funds. A lot of mutual aid is needed here in Los Angeles. Help locally folks if you can. These are dark days and the only way we're gonna get through this is if we do it together.
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Thank you.
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Ah, Sue, I know. And then we got. And then we gotta turn around and parrot.
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I wasn't expecting that.
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And then we.
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I was saying, I was saying turn around and. And redo our wardrobe closets. Well, you know, for the new season because it's getting a little chillier. I mean, you know what I mean? Like we just have to turn around and live.
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Yeah, man.
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We have to cook and wipe down counters and go to the grocery store and try to refill prescriptions. Find joy. Is that on the list?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's been really tricky. It's been really tricky being a human lately. Mm. Yeah. Yeah.
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So all of those links I will put in the show notes. And I also wanna reiterate just one little app that the 5 calls app. Again, great Too great. I don't need to tell you about it. I said it before. You can look at it yourself. It's great. It's easy. We don't have to leave the comfort and the safety of our home, most of us. And we can do this. We can do this in between things. And it doesn't necessarily always mean money. It can be just something like the five calls. But the privilege of being able to do something small from the comfort and safety of our homes.
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Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Okay. I think I can. It sort of thematically will make sense for me to jump into my remove from carts. Okay.
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Oh, remove from carts.
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Yes. I definitely have add to carts.
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Okay, okay.
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Which are a little bit more fun. But let's slide into remove from cartoon.
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Okay.
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So in light of all that's happening, I am looking to wean myself out of services and corporations who don't align with the values that I have. You know, I'm trying to stand on here, you know, so with that in mind, I've finally canceled my Spotify account. That's gone. So, you know, goodbye my numerous playlists. Look, where did I migrate to? I migrated to Apple and I'm not happy with Apple either. You know, if I was the model human, I would trash all of the Apple products that lay before me. But I shan't be doing that. So. So until then, I'm saying fuck off Spotify. Fuck off.
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Fuck it.
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Fuck off. Like fuck off. This has to be shocking to you, Suchin. Are you ready? Sue, you know this? Cause I kind of told you about it.
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I'm sort of glancing at the list. Cause I want you to go through it and I. No, I am actually shocked because we've danced. Okay. Let's be honest, we've all danced around this. But this is. Yeah, like this is hunkering down. So I'm listening, open ears and also evaluating.
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Well, you don't have to evaluate this piece because you never got on it. But I have deleted TikTok. There's a specific way you have to close your account. You got to go in airplane mode, then you gotta hit a button, then you go off of airplane mode and then it's a whole thing because they don't want to let you go. Okay, but when the transfer from Chinese ownership to Trump appointed ownership happened, the data that they're taking and the suppression of free speech, which weren't we worried about, isn't that what the whole point of. Of it not being Chinese owned, but. Okay, set that aside. Fuck you. I feel bad for all of the. No, I don't feel bad. I don't feel bad. I'm just saying that I was a. I was adding to cart.
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TikTok economy.
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I was adding to the TikTok economy. You lost one. You lost a good one, dumbasses. You lost a good one. I don't even know if those, like, foot pads that I bought help me sleep. Those sticky footpads that I Wore for almost 20 days that I put socks on because otherwise they'd come off because I'm such an active sleeper. I bought it. I bought the mellow pillow cloud comforter. I bought that and I bought two matching pillows for Emmy. Not gonna buy anything more, you dumbasses.
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Corporate is shaking. The corporate is shaking. They lost fire horse on TikTok. Her burning credit card no longer kisses your flames.
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Okay, that's right. That's it. That's right. But speaking of, speaking of, I Stand firm.
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10 toes down.
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Boycotting Target, Home Depot, Amazon, Whole Foods, Starbucks. I texted sue the last dates of purchases. And I much like an alcoholic, I will give myself coins every year. A recovering alcoholic for like every year that I don't. I don't purchase this now. Okay, hold on, hold on. Let me acknowledge something. When we left La Manada and became fully independent, this looser, looser, jiggly area era, okay, Art 19. What are they are a distributor. Okay, it's an Amazon company. Okay, it's an Amazon company. It is an Amazon company. We're not moving. Too fucking lazy, man. I barely understand what we're doing right now. It's not happening. But I am. I've shifted all of my many supplements off of Amazon and I'm looking elsewhere. I'm. See, that's what you. You stupid bitch, Jeff. Like I was your hoe for so long. It's hard. It's hard. I want to get ice whistles. And the first thing my instinct is to go on is to go on Amazon. But I took a different. I took the blue pill and the.
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Blue pill is harder. We're not saying this is an easy path that she is on and we have to support her. This is a path for a warrior. So we are supporting you and we are re evaluating ourselves day by day.
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I don't want to be this mindful, okay? I'm a old mom of a three year old. I don't want to have to think this hard. I don't want to have to save all these Instagram info carousels. But that's where you find me, Sue.
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And what this is the first argument, you know, that people will say, and we say ourselves in our head. Trust me. We all realize that we live in multitudes and we live in complete opposition and hypocrisy. We acknowledge that. So, like, what do you say when someone's like, well, you can't do this and you can't go here and then you can't go here and before long you're painted into a tiny little box and you can't move.
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I mean, we're all human. And like, by the way, for some people in rural areas, Amazon is like, unfortunately one of their only options to get certain goods. And even for me to say that I boycott like Walmart is disingenuous. I, I never shopped at Walmart. I mean, maybe back when I was in Minnesota, you know, but generally, you know, I'm a member of two unions, okay. Like I, you know, union busting, that alone. But, but what's happening in my home state and what's happening in my home, around me, in my neighborhoods is a tipping point for me. So I, I'm making moves for me, for my family to reflect my values. And it's imperfect. Cause I'm not a homesteader. I can't, there's most things I can't make on my own, but I'm making efforts to, you know, I'm making changes. I'm just figuring out ways to not like, be their bitch.
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Yeah. And I think that like you said, it's imperfect. All we're doing is every day, every choice, every purchase is just making the best decision for that moment at the time. And that it's not a perfect formula. So for me, I'm like, well, the alternate to that, which is, fuck it, business as usual, that makes me feel so sick inside that even if you think this farce of what I'm doing here by boycotting certain things or not supporting certain brands feels disingenuous or doesn't feel logical. There is no logic in this. For me, it's less logical than it is, is like, how can I, to the best of my ability, align with my values? It's not perfect, these decisions that we make. And I think that like trying to apply like ironclad, no water leaking seal around the way that we express our consumer, you know, protest, whatever you want to call this is futile. And to say that like, well, because it's not watertight, airtight, don't do it at all, you know, this all or nothing, it really kind of drives me crazy because I have a lot of people in My life who hold that philosophy.
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Look, you know what? These CEOs, it's always like, bottom line. And all they want to do is find ways that they can extract more money and time from us. And I just. What I'm seeing and what you're doing with your power and money has shifted me as a consumer. So if you're so interested in your bottom line. I used to feel good about shopping at Target. Now feel great about not shopping at Target. I feel great about not going to Home Depot. I have felt better about being who I am by not going to Amazon and Whole Foods and skipping on Starbucks. Like that's a problem for you. That's a problem for you, CEO. So it. I think it's bad business. It's as simple as that for me. Yeah, I'm disrupting my own consumer habits, which is my right. And I'm speaking, you know, again and wielding my privilege as well. Because for me, I will spend more. I'll spend $2 more. If it means not supporting a company that is using their tech to help ice. That's right for me, and that's where I'm coming from. So you can come at it however anybody wants to do it, however it works for your life. If you are in a position to burn it all down, please do it. I support you. I think it's great. Good. Do it. Do it. Speaking of galloping on the fire horse and clearing for the fire horse, I can't control a lot that is going on. There has been a need for me to. I think it might have actually kind of was inspired by what you were saying when you were talking about cleaning your crumbs and Beatrice from your fork drawer. Your utensil drawer. Right?
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Yes.
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And then just. I started, you know, really, it was like this woodsnake Year of 2025. I'm so over it. I'm done. Yes. I've learned all the lessons. It was just like the death RA battle of this wood snake year to get into this fire horse. And I've been prepping and what I can control is like, what do I have? So the level of clearing. And I, at one point, Olivia, just like, she's like, I think I should take some pictures of you doing this because I feel like we should have some pictures. But I have cleared out our. The family's medications. I've thrown away expired over the counters COVID test. I. I went through my. My product pantry organized that gave away things. There was so much like probiotics that we were given during the lemonade run of add to cart that I never took and I'm like, giving that away. It's like, things that I will not use. Why am I holding onto it? And especially if they're like a thing that is like, expired. That, like, we don't need an expired COVID test. There's no sentimental value there. And then I've also gone through my food pantries and then my fridge and freezer went kaput. I just cleared everything. The things, like the food items that were buried underneath, like, frozen, like, so that all got tossed to clear everything during the repair. I've even gone as far as, like, I have cleared out apps on my phone. Like, anything. I am just like, nope, no, like, if not, I'm using you. Gone. Get, get gone. It is absolutely a. Like, just a. Just, just trying to hold, like, just trying to feel better and try to, like, be lighter. We're again hopping on that fire horse.
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Skin to skin.
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Skin to skin.
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We've talked about this a lot. At the end of the year, this, like, Japanese ritual. I don't know how to pronounce this correctly. It's like a soji or something like that. And it's more. It's more than tidying. It is a spiritual practice to remove negative energy, preparing the space to welcome good fortune for the coming year. You're purging, you're organizing. All of this is mind, body, soul. As you get rid of those expired things, you don't need clearing the way. Your mind is clear, your space is clear, your phone is clearer, and it's the time. It's fire. Horses is a comin'. She's galloping. She's close.
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She's so close.
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Yeah, just the heat. The heat of her hot breath and coo's sweaty skin on her back.
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Yes, that's it. Rode hard and put away wet.
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Carter's here. In our world, where getting the shoppies is glorified, we love when a company like Shopify takes this noble hobby and upgrades the experience. Imagine after hours, sometimes months of searching, you finally find the perfect waterproof trench coat for, say, a trip to Italy that is crisp and chic and slouchy in the right spots. Seeing that purple pay button that has all your information already saved, making checkout as simple as a flirty tap on the screen.
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Ah, that sweet Shopify purple button. And as a shopper who falls for nay exalts, good marketing, Shopify has everything you need to start that business idea. Get started with access to your own design studio with hundreds of ready to Use templates Shopify helps you build a beautiful online store that you've been dreaming of.
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Next, get the word out like you have a marketing team behind you. Easily create email and social media campaigns wherever your customers are scrolling. And if people haven't heard of your brand and you're just getting started, Shopify helps you find your customers with easy to run email and social media campaigns.
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Don't get stuck in the grimy details. Shopify is here to launch a business or grow your existing one. It's time to turn those what ifs into with Shopify today. Sign up for your $1 per month trial today at shopify.com addtocart go to shopify.com add to cart that's shopify.com addtocart.
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Add to cart will always be a quince family. It's true. It's everything we aunties believe in. You know. They have elevated daily essentials. They have quality luxury items. They use safe, ethical factories. They have timeless styles that will not end up in the garbage bin after a wash at affordable prices. Quints can give you these prices because they're not paying for brand markups and that saving goes to us. And in this time when we're all reconfiguring where we buy from and why, quints is just a no brainer. KU as always for me, it's about the cashmere.
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That's right, you're a cashmere queen.
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Cashmere queen of affordable cashmere, of course.
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Of course.
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Catch me okay at the Farmer's market on Saturdays with my new Mongolian cashmere fisherman quarter zip sweater in burgundy. I sometimes zip it up all the way at the start of the market and then as it gets warmer, that zip comes down. Just a sko.
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Wow, you little teaspoon. Refresh your wardrobe with quince. Go to quince.com addtocart for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N c e.com addtocart to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com add to cart when you think.
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Someone who genuinely loves laundry. Comes to your house, picks it up, washes it, dries it, folds it, and brings it back to you. Do you know how I fold? Coo. I don't. It gets dumped in drawers as is.
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It's so upsetting, Sue.
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Isn't it, though? But not anymore. Let the laundry pros do it for you on your schedule. Customize it how you want it. Folded, dried, what Detergent, pickup, drop off all of it.
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Okay? Is it my turn? Let's see. All right, so I have a big add to cart. I also have a big remove from cart that we'll get to later. Kind of actually similar to this whole thing of clearing what is this year? Let's let go of a lot of things and move into it. But I had a crisis, a little parenting crisis with my daughter. She's, you know, she's tween. Yeah, Tween is so interesting. And every phase of parenting, right? Unless you've had kids before, but even every kid is different, right? So, like, the tween thing is fascinating to me because I can see in a five minute period with her oscillating between like, child to, you know, full blown teenager, right? Like, she's like silly and making funny voices and she's playing with clay and she's making slime. And then the next she's, you know, putting on foundation with a wet sponge.
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Both slime. Both slime.
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Both slime.
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Yeah, versions of slime.
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Yeah, both versions of slime. It's like this constant thing with her. And so, you know, it's all unchartered territory for me. And she came, you know, with a problem and she was really upset. I was really upset. I didn't have an answer to it. And in this kind of searching for, like, how do I sit in this? How do I help her through this? I came across this episode on Jay Shetty's podc with Dr. Becky. And I do have to be honest, you know, Dr. Becky is everywhere. I think everybody knows her.
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Yeah, I'm familiar with Dr. Becky, but.
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She never clicked for me. She doesn't resonate for me. Like, I've seen it. I don't disagree with her, but she just wasn't my vibe, you know? And this particular episode really shifted something for me. And I'm not saying that, like, I immediately went and followed Dr. Becky and bought the books, because I actually don't know about that still. But this particular episode, this, like, whatever hour and change, really shifted the conversation in my head around parenting. And I want to point out two things that have been really going in my brain over and over, just playing on a loop. And one of the things she said is about coaching, right? Like, athletes have coaches. You know, CEOs have coaches. Like, if you're an entrepreneur, a CEO nowadays, and you don't have a coach, it's, like, frowned upon. You know what I mean? That, like, institutionalized this kind of coaching. My real estate agent has a coach.
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Really?
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Like, yes. I didn't know this, but I was asking for a referral in a neighborhood that he didn't cover, and he's like, you know what? I'm gonna ask my coach because he may have a client and he's a real estate coach. So every profession has a coach.
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I understood CEOs have coaches almost in this, like, comical way, but, like, in a Silicon Valley, the TV show way. And, like, ah, yeah, okay.
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Like, yeah, No, I mean, it's. It's. I think that we have this. Like, some of us, you know, have this. A lot of us have this antiquated notion of, like, yeah, this coach. What does it mean? It seems fake. It's all of that, but, like, no, like, everybody needs a coach. Anything that you're doing with a skill set that you weren't born with, which is everything, can use expert guidance, can use an outside perspective. You know, in some ways, a therapist is a coach. You know what I mean? So who are these outside people who bring a different set of skills, knowledge and experience to your problem that can help you with that? And she was talking about this, and it made a lot of sense. Like, why aren't there parenting coaches now? I know there are, but I'm saying, why isn't that, like, how do you expect to parent if you don't have a coach? You know, like, how do we expect to raise children differently, better than we were raised? What frame of reference am I supposed to be pulling from?
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Yeah, you don't.
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Especially for us.
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Yeah, you have. No. When they talk about modeling, that's not something we really have.
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And you're talking now about. Every generation has their own set of problems that you never even had to consider, you know, whether it's technology or, you know, Sephora. And I just thought it was a really it just kind of sat with me. And I'm lucky enough to have two very good friends who are coaches and who I do coaching calls with all the time. And they're like little 10 minute, 15 minute calls where I'm like, okay, this is the question I have. What's the game plan here? And I just sort of take that for granted because that's what they do and they're friends and it's not like a formalized relationship. But I was like, wow, I rely so heavily on these two to get me unstuck when I'm stuck. I really started to kind of consciously think about this. And one of the other things that she said that's related to this is that, you know, babies, children, they're born with all of the emotions. Think about how complicated the emotion wheel is for all of us. Rage, jealousy, disappointment, sadness, you know, denial, all of those. And they are born with not one skill to handle these emotions. Like, think of an infant, think of a toddler. When they're like melting down over the fact that you didn't get them what they wanted in a grocery store. So they have all of these emotions. I mean, like that meltdown, it's a volcano of emotions. It's not just one thing. It's not like, oh, I'm pissed. No, it's sadness, it's grief. And so, like us as parents, we have to get them across the street safely, right to where those skills are. And at the same time, we're often trying to figure out how to cross that street for ourselves as adults. It may seem obvious, but it was really on a granular level. Like her breaking it down was blowing my mind. It really shifted kind of in the meta sense of what is parenting, you know, is it just the. You put food on the table, put them to sleep on time, all of those things. Yes. But it's also this. And I think that I'm really good at the taking care of the physical body of my child. Yeah. This stuff is. I not only am not good at. Makes my skin crawl.
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Yeah.
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And as my kids are getting older and they're moving out of the. They need me to feed them every three hours myself.
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Oh, shit, here we go.
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Now I'm just sitting in skin crawl. And that skin crawl for me is rage is so reactive.
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Yeah.
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Is shut down, is run away. That's where I am right now in this kind of like, what is my role as a parent? How do I get better at this? You know, who in my life can I pull in to coach me to get better. To teach me to get better at this. You know what I mean? It's this constant dance between parenting ourselves and parenting our children. It just kind of, I mean, it was like a major add to cart for me. This episode.
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That's huge. Well, it's also, I mean, it's expanding your village. And sue, like, yeah, you're gonna get help, but it's also like, I'm hoping Mike's good at this. Oh.
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I mean, I just dump it on his plate.
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Yeah.
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I mean, that is kind of, you know, the benefit of having another partner, right. Like really co parent ideally is that they're stronger in places you're not and you kind of like balance each other out. It's like the biggest blessing of my life. It's why I married this person on a subconscious level. Like a little animal, you know, Barnacle. I clung to this man and forced him into marriage. True story. He's really good at dealing with this kind of stuff. He can't. He will never feed a child. It's like shocking to me that he can go through a whole Saturday and I'll like run out for errands and I'll come back. It's four o' clock and no. No one has eaten but him. He's on his second meal. Third snack.
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Bless, bless, bless, bless.
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No. And I just see, see Funyuns and fruit roll up snacks and, you know, everywhere and I'm like, got it. But. But like, you want to talk about a masterclass in like dealing with anxiety, dealing with, you know, intrusive thoughts. That's him. And so, but you know, I gotta.
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I know, I know.
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I gotta step up for me.
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Yes, of course. You know what I mean? I gotta step up for me. Of course. Take responsibility and. Yes, of course. Yeah, yeah.
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And also, like, because I want to.
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Yeah, good. Yes.
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I don't. Yeah. As my kids get older, they're not gonna need me to give them a snack. They're gonna need me to be like, okay. How do I deal with the dynamics of friendships that are backstabbing and, you know, breaking me down on a daily basis?
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Go, girl. You ain't even in middle school yet with her. That's right. This is like, this is your prepping for fire horse, honey. Cause like, middle school is awful for girls.
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I don't know how to ride a horse. Horses scare me. My legs are fused together. They haven't been open in so long. Like, I can't mount that.
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The other issue is add to cart. Ms. Suchin needs to finally Commit to weightlifting and building some fucking muscle. So let's do this.
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Oh, God.
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You have to.
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That's a whole other episode.
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I have to.
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You guys, I just had another appointment with my doctor, who's like, you're at the door of serious medical attention, primarily because you need to have more muscle. And it just. It's really annoying.
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It's really annoying after all that because.
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Give me a tincture, Give me a.
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Laser, Give me an elixir.
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Give me a gua sha.
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Give me a tea.
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Give me a yoga ball, even, you know, let me stretch it out. And they're like, no.
B
Stretch what out? They're like, no. Your body is slime. Your body is slime. Your body is soft water taffy. And you need to firm it up.
A
Title of a new theme song. We've been loving our theme song for five years. We're now. New theme song. Your body is slime. Let's get in the studio right now. Let's do it. We have no time to waste. We don't know. We don't know if we'll ever record another episode the way that this is going. And I mean this as in the planet, as in life.
B
That's right.
A
I don't mean us specifically, but also us royally. Right. Anyway, so, yeah, my body is slime. Anywho. Yeah, that's a whole other girl. I know. I know.
B
Girl.
A
I don't even know. I gotta figure that out.
B
But somehow I wonder if the two could be braided in together. I don't know how. I don't know why, but I feel like what you gaining muscle, getting stronger is connected to this. Being able to hold your daughter's emotions in a different way and have the space for it. Somehow I feel that that is. Could be braided. It's a charm bracelet. Like, it's something like this somehow, some way.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
But we'll check in. We'll check in.
A
Yeah, I. At first, I, you know, I was like, no, that there's no connection. But I'm seeing something. You know what I mean? It's a group text. Coolop. And our lovely Cece, who makes this show run now, she's our boss, said, hey, what about creatine gummies? Did I text that yesterday?
B
She's still just trying to eat her way to muscle.
A
She's not even eat. Because I mean to say you're being very generous to say that I. Somehow a gummy is eating. It's barely chewing.
B
You're right. It's slime. It's Molded slime.
A
What about a creatine gummy?
B
What about it?
A
I group texted. I said, guys, this is my problem. What about a creatine gummy? Is someone out there? Can they support our show and just send me a truckload of creatine gummies?
B
Dump it into my mouth. Choo choo, choo.
A
Let's try it. Let's try it anyway.
B
Oh, shit. I'm crying.
A
Okay, okay, your turn. Your add to carts.
B
I want to add to cart. A really fun four nights that Scott and I took sort of end of January, and it was. And we did five.
A
So cute.
B
Five shows in four nights in New York City. Five shows? What?
A
Five shows. So you saw matinee one day. Anna training show, two days. Two days. Two days.
B
First night we did. We just got in. It was just a travel day.
A
Yeah, okay, Got it.
B
So the reason we scheduled our first extended trip away from Emmy, both of us, was because Jason Mantzoukas, AKA Zooks Cubes, is on Broadway, baby. Wow.
A
In the flesh.
B
We got to see looming large, bearded, full on. So our friends Jason, Sarah Silverman, Craig Robinson and Heidi Gardner are in their. We got to see them their first week of their run of Simon Rich's All Out. This cast revolves and he'll be in this cast until, well, February 15th. So if you are in New York, you gotta see him. How cool to see my pals up on the Great White Way in Broadway. It was like, I've never. It's a thrill. It's such a thrill. It's thrilling. I. It was, you know, and Jason also got us into a live show of taskmaster.
A
Oh, my God, you guys love this show.
B
We've come to love it. When Jason got on it, it was just like, again, thrilling. And so they had been doing a tour and they did two nights in New York while we were there. We got to see the first night. Seth Meyers and John Oliver were the special guest contestants, along with three lucky audience members. Super fans. And then Jason ran from his Broadway show and like at the end, the last 30 minutes, I mean, it's supposed to be fifth, last 50 15. But you know, Jason, he gets on stage and it's like, if he can stretch, that boy's the most flexible. And he gave the audience a thrill. A thrill.
A
So he ran from his show to this show, back to back, back to back. Where does this. This little Cube man I know get so much shenergy?
B
But he is so funny because, like, if you know Jason, and he is, of course, a chaos monster on stage, and as a performer. But he's not like that. He isn't like that.
A
He has to be so dis. He has to be cubed. He's cubed to be unleashed like this on stage. You can't have slime on stage. Slime in life.
B
Well, let's talk about this. I think you're absolutely right. When Jason is on stage, he is uncubed.
A
Yeah, he's uncubed.
B
All cubes are off.
A
I mean, that's why we get along behind Mike. I don't wanna hang out with him. Cubed.
B
Yeah. No, I mean, he's adult. You would, though. Cause he is. He's the sweetest, like, sensitive boy for sure.
A
With a lot of anxiety. Yeah. Can you imagine us traveling with him and then he pulls out his apple sling TV thing to load up his shows. Exactly where he stopped them at home. I would throw my shoe at him and then we'd have to wrestle.
B
Yeah, the two. Absolutely.
A
No, we would drive each other. But I love it. Like, he is uncubed on stage because he has to be so rigid and very disciplined in his life.
B
What a dichotomy.
A
That's the beautiful balance. He gets it.
B
He enters running with two fingers up. What up, losers? Like, the crowd's fucking going insane. It's Jason. He kicks something over, breaks it. And so it's. Yeah, he.
A
Yeah.
B
Delight.
A
He really is like a caveman in a. What do you call it? Those, like British tailored suits. You know what I'm talking about? Like custom tailored suits. Like, he is both.
B
Specifically. He's a caveman in a very specific J. Crew white T shirt. White. Sorry, sorry. White, long sleeve button up with jeans and a specific pair of shoes. That's his uniform.
A
And all geniuses have them. They have routine. All geniuses, the greats. So you really examine who's laughing at who. That's all I'm saying.
B
Yeah, you're right. We also saw Chess, starring Lea Michele, Aaron Taveet and Nicholas Christopher. That one I thought was just okay. Like, they're amazing singers. But it was like. Do you know that Chess or anything. I bet you remember this song. It goes one night in Bangkok. It's from that concept album. And then from that concept album, they made a. A Broadway show. Yeah, that's been around for a while. This production was, I found to be strange. But okay. Great singers, amazing singers. And I've never seen, you know, Lea Michele on stage. So that was fun. Her face doesn't move. It's okay. She's an amazing singer.
A
Her Voice does.
B
Yes, it does.
A
And that's what you paid for.
B
That's right.
A
So shut up.
B
Well, I didn't pay for it. Just to be clear. All of the. We were hooked up for everything. Oh, we were hooked up for everything. Like. But for the people who paid, I do think it was worth it.
A
For those in the back and the.
B
Front who paid even the most. Worth it. I also saw. This is one of our matinees, and we saw it with our good friend Kate Micucci. The 25th annual Putnam County Spelling Bee. They're doing a revival just a little bit off of Broadway. It was so fun and funny. That would be, I think. I think, a good one to take the kids. Except there is, like, one boner song, but I think it's like. I think. I don't know when's age appropriate to have a boner song. But it was that, like a. You know what I mean? Just that one. A child, like a kid has a boner. I think it's okay. It's kind of like sex in a way.
A
Listen, you're talking to the boner fart family, like, from day one. They've been born into it.
B
That's true.
A
I don't love it.
B
Right.
A
But that's my family.
B
Yeah. I thought it was just really well done and super fun and funny. And I never got to see Boop, which people loved Boop. And the lead from Boop is in this, and she's fantastic, as is Lea Michele's former co star In Glee, Kevin McHale, so highly recommend it. And then our absolute favorite musical we saw was Ragtime. I didn't know anything about it. Also, revival. It shook me to my core. It speaks. It's a period piece, but it speaks to now. The performances, the voices. Incredible. If you have a chance to see this production run. And yeah, that was our first. Our first show that we saw on our second night. And basically all we did other than that was sleep. We slept in. We slept early. We slept.
A
No, sleep is porn for parents.
B
It was delicious.
A
It was delicious. Yeah, it's like naughty, dirty, stanky porn. Asleep. So good.
B
It was so good. So that was.
A
Oh, that was amazing. Your battery is charged. Yeah, you are. Fire horse.
B
Well, you don't need us to say it, so I'll just begin and end with 2026 so far has been pretty dark. Carters, we know the news and what's happening in the world can and will take a toll on your mental health. Just navigating the daily ins and outs of life can feel like a lot right now. So the aunties are here with support. Everyone deserves access to care. And we are excited about our new sponsor, Grow Therapy.
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Oh, love it. I wanted to focus this year on actually using my brain less. Okay, so meaning worry less, keep lists less, ruminate less. So ironically, I've been deep in a mindfulness course with Jon Kabat Zinn, which is all about getting out of your head to do more with your life. Like, how is that for a wonderful plot twist?
B
I mean, I love that for you, especially since the way that you write lists is like a beautiful mind. Scraps and pieces of garbage.
A
That's right.
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That's 15% off@masterclass.com. add to cart. Masterclass.com. addtocart. Yes. Yes.
A
You needed that. I didn't need that.
B
I didn't need that. I didn't need that. Okay, sue, your turn, my love.
A
Okay, so. Oh, Lord. This is an open cart. And I would love to get your thoughts on this, actually, because this is a true open cart where I keep going back and forth. I have not pulled the plug because I think where I'm sitting right now is don't buy it. But then I go back into it. Okay. Have you fallen victim to the account, the lead lady? And I mean lead as in poison.
B
I. I want to say. No, I'm pulling it up.
A
Okay, don't. Oh, I was like, don't ruin your algorithm. Because all my algorithm is, is this and that stupid app that tells me my water is terrible. And it's a constant rotation of stuff.
B
The first thing that's pinned is lead at home goods. And my sister's boyfriend Mario, whom I adore, is basically like banned her from buying any sort of like ceramics, glass, or anything.
A
Because of lead. Yes. Oh, he's on. So he has the lead lady algorithm. Okay. What I will tell you is her story is that she, she is a mother and when her daughter was an infant, had gotten lead poisoning and she couldn't figure out from what, like they, you know, so. Careful. Organic. Da, da, da, da, da. And it turns out that they had this vintage dresser in her nursery that they were also using as a changing table that was completely covered in lead and it was a vintage piece of furniture. And back then they would seal the wood with all of this lead kind of products. Right. Cause they didn't know. Then she tested the inside of the drawers covered in lead. And then she tested the child's clothing covered in lead. Okay.
B
Because they put the clothing in the.
A
Drawers in the drawer, of course. And so that seemed to be the main culprit. Cause they were like, where would this six month old be getting lead poisoning? And then when she said, and this is the part again, you gotta do the fact checking on your own. And I, I feel almost like. What's the word? Irresponsible for bringing this without having a degree in all of these sciences that support this. But she was saying how they measure certain lead levels in your blood. And like for every point that it goes up, whatever that unit of measurement is, is an IQ point lost that will never be gained back permanent loss again. Again, this you can extrapolate what you want from that? Okay, so that is where I start. Okay. And so she recommends this thing that's like a lead kit. And basically you spray it and then you. It comes with this little flashlight. If whatever you spray turns bright green, there's lead.
B
Okay.
A
And so, like, she'll go to specifically TJ Maxx, home goods, Marshalls, all of these places, and basically spray and show that there's lead. Any lead in everything. Toys, baby bottles, porcelain, you know, cups. Like, there's just lead in everything. And the reason also why I was like, I want to talk to you about it too, is I think as a parent of a really young child or a baby, this is a really dark, heavy place to sit. You know, like, I can be like, well, my kids are older. Like, you know, like their immune systems are already formed. Like, you know what I mean? I can kind of be like, well, there's a little bit of leeway, but like, had I known this, if I had a baby or a toddler, I think I'd be spraying everything in my house. And I'm not saying that's the good thing to do. Yeah, right. So this is where I sit and I've talked about let. Cause I. Mike did get lead poisoning and we found out it was from. And I didn't. Neither one of us knew that there could be lead in plates. Like, I didn't know this. And so we switched out all of our plates and our cups and that sort of thing.
B
Right.
A
Listen, you can't escape everything. I mean, then we'll never leave our houses. But, you know, I figured I was like, well, at least what I can do is things that I'm putting hot food on, eating off of. Right? Yeah. Like, let me just start there. And if that's all I do, I feel like that's. You know what I mean? That's where I'm at now. I'm in this she shed. And of course, you know, I got. I got. I want to have cute little plates.
B
Yeah.
A
Cute little endorphin high cups and mugs. And I've been lax.
B
Yeah.
A
Until the lead lady. And so part of me is like, what if I just. Without testing it, just replace it with brands that I know are lead free. And one of the brands she's tested is ikea. So it's not even just like super expensive brands, which I thought that's what I would have to invest in. I was like, okay, so anyway, this is my. Where my brain has been. I'm just like, wow, dumping it all.
B
Wow. Ikea's good.
A
I know. I couldn't. I was like, huh. So, yeah, she tested all of their kind of like cups and. Cause, you know, we go lead free. I think we've been using Fable and there was another brand that supported our show.
B
Yeah, I was just trying to pull right now and I can't.
A
Yeah, like. And we bought a whole bunch of their stuff that's lead free. It's expensive. I mean, it's beautiful forever stuff. I'm not. I don't regret it, but it's not for everyone. So I was just kind of like. It was good to know that there were, you know, brands like ikea. There's others too, I think, like, shit, Pottery Barn or something that she had tested. But yeah, that's. So it's an open cart. It's a real tricky one. Coo. What do you think about this?
B
Let's see. I'm on it right now. Buy now. Buy local. Let's see, let's see, let's see. America.
A
I think it's like maybe 80. It's not over 100. I looked at it and the brand. And I'll put all this up if you guys are interested. I'm not saying it's a. You know, it's. You should or you shouldn't. This particular brand that she likes is called Lumitalics. I don't know if that's the. And yeah, it comes with a little bottle, a spray, and then a light.
B
Yeah, I'll get it. I'll have to try it. We'll start with what we're eating, what we're using to eat and to drink with. And then, you know when she sprayed.
A
The bottles, the baby bottles, and found lead in. So the paint of the logo.
B
Oh, God.
A
So the bottle is fine. Right. But then you're constantly touching that thing and you're rubbing on it and then you're. She's holding it. You know what I'm saying? Or like, you're like, it doesn't matter if it's inside, outside, it doesn't matter. Like, it's coming off one way or another, you know, in small amounts. And. Yeah. So. So, Koo, I'm sorry to bring this to you, but I'm also like, if I was in your shoes, I would have. I would do this. That's just my experience, my own personal opinion, not having known.
B
Well, to be frank, I was like, I think it's time for us to change our. I mean, our plates are plates that I got in our wedding registry. We still have those you know what I mean? Like, and then I. As they've broken, I've bought more from Crate and Barrel, you know, so it's like, you know what?
A
Let's just see.
B
And I am curious just about her. I've been throwing away her cups and stuff, but, like, and. And doing aluminum ones and like, you know what I mean? Like, trying to. But I am curious. So I'm gonna go there and see where we're at. Oh, boy.
A
Yeah, that. I know somebody.
B
Open car, you know, I. I toss things. Yeah, it'll be a project. It'll definitely be a project. Oh, okay, Sue. Let's see. Let's see.
A
That's all we can do, really. Yeah. With our juicy eyeballs, you know, it's just like, let's just see. So I'll be interested and then I'll borrow the kit the next time in LA and come and test out just my quick little plates. And then I'm just gonna return that right back to you.
B
You got it?
A
You know what I mean?
B
You got it. Absolutely.
A
And that's how we take care of each other. Specifically, you take care of me. And before we go, I've got a really strong remove from cart slash add to cart. But let me start with the remove, which is I had this moment last year when I was like, I. I want to remove from cart chores. I know that that's not possible, right? But there was a moment when I was like, my God, I am spending what feels like almost half of my day doing dishes, wiping down counters, the laundry, just chores. And I felt like this existential crisis of thinking about on my deathbed, looking back at my life and wondering if it was just going to be. All I did was chores. And so I started to do this thing where I was like, well, is that the true story?
B
Right?
A
Like, is it just how I feel?
B
Let's do exaggerating.
A
Let's do some journalistic investigating.
B
Wow. She is not retired, folks.
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Let me put on my Carmen Sandiego.
B
Yeah. Your news cap.
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My hat and my trench. And I started to time. So, like, I would start the timer when I was doing a chore, any little chore, and then stop it and then writing it down and just seeing, like, collectively, like, honestly, what. What are. What am I spending? And I am reporting live from the field to tell you that it is on average, like three hours a day. Yeah, on average. Yesterday was three hours and 22 minutes. And this is not laundry day, because laundry is a whole other thing. This is also not. When I'm Taking care of my parents day.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
I'm just talking about me, my two kids. This is what it is. And that is shocking because think about if, like, on average, I get up at like 7:00am like, if I were to get up at 4:00am every day, just have those three extra hours.
B
Yeah.
A
You know what I mean? Like, what. What would my life look like? What would I accomplish?
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Okay? So I have been using this. Let me just say this. When you think about laundry day, right? Like, what does laundry entail? It isn't just like, okay, I did the laundry. No, you have to sort it. You gotta empty out those little nasty pockets. Slime. You know, sometimes I gotta slime. Filled with slime. And Mac foundation, also slime. You gotta treat the stain sometimes. Sometimes those that slime, you gotta let it sit.
B
I'm a little soy as using Mac. Oh, man. Okay, keep going. Sorry. Go, go.
A
You know, then you gotta wash it, then you gotta dry it, then you gotta fold it. That's laundry. Laundry isn't just laundry. Right? So I've been using Poplin, and the obvious headline is, you get time back. But that I realize after using it is just the beginning. Okay, you also get your brain back. What do I mean by that? How many times have I put laundry in the wash? Then two days later I'm like, damn it, I forgot to put it in the dryer. This mildewy ball of laundry has to to be hot washed with mold shampoo again. I gotta put a timer on my freaking phone to make sure I dry it this time. Okay. Or how many times have I slept on a small pile of laundry that's dwindling over time because I don't want to fold it at night after everything is done? This is the.
B
I would never do that. You see what I'm saying?
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This is why I'm so passionate. Like when they said that a company that does laundry wants to support you, I was like, poplin, you have not.
B
Found a better spot.
A
An advocate.
B
Yes, that's right.
A
No. So just think about that, right? And then on top of that, you get your brain back. You get your time back. Right? Also, you get to be a different person. Okay. And you know who that person is?
B
Who is it? Soojin?
A
This is who I am today, which is I don't fold laundry anymore. Okay. What I do is I put it in piles and I dump it into drawers. Sometimes those drawers, I don't sort it. I dump it into a drawer and hope whoever is getting dressed can figure it out.
B
Right?
A
Because I was doing that for my kids. And I'm like, what am I doing with my time? I'm not doing that anymore. And so you get not only the laundry back. It's not in a bag like I would do, and just like dump it out on a bed. It's in military corners, folded.
B
Wow.
A
You know that scene in Reality Bites where they put the retail. Like, what is that? Like cardboard? And every shirt is perfectly square and folded.
B
Oh, yeah. That's how you get your.
A
Yes, that's how you get your laundry back. And that's the version I've been dreaming of.
B
Wow.
A
But the game changer for me besides all of this is that I take care of my aging parents. Okay? I don't have to do their laundry anymore. So for like 30 bucks, you can do around three hampers of laundry.
B
Wow. Okay.
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It's about a dollar a pound. Do you have any idea how freeing and joyful that is for me? So, like, for me, amazing that they came on, but like, radically has shifted time in my life.
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Save your brain.
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Bye Bye.
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Episode: Bareback on Fire Horse
Airdate: February 6, 2026
This episode of "Add to Cart" is deeply rooted in the metaphor of the Fire Horse, invoking the spirit of burning down what isn't serving us and entering a new year—literally and figuratively—with clarity and intensity. Kulap and SuChin candidly explore their evolving approaches to conscious consumerism, decluttering their physical and digital lives, deepening parenting philosophies, and reflecting on how current events inform their spending and actions. Peppered with signature comedic banter, the hosts share vivid imagery, relatable confessions, and actionable advice, ultimately weaving a tapestry about healing, solidarity, and the real emotional labor of being human right now.
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Kulap (on the Fire Horse & emotional state):
“The way that I want to jump on the fire horse, bare back like a Mongolian steppe warrior aflame and just burn everything down.” [04:07]
SuChin (about activism):
“These are dark days and the only way we’re gonna get through this is if we do it together.” [08:22]
Kulap (on boycotting brands):
“Corporate is shaking. They lost fire horse on TikTok. Her burning credit card no longer kisses your flames.” [13:37]
SuChin (on imperfect activism):
“We all realize that we live in multitudes and we live in complete opposition and hypocrisy. We acknowledge that.” [16:17]
“I just want to find ways to not like, be their bitch.” [17:53]
Kulap (on spiritual decluttering):
“This is more than tidying. It is a spiritual practice to remove negative energy, preparing the space to welcome good fortune for the coming year.” [23:39]
Sleep as a luxury:
Kulap: “Sleep is porn for parents.”
SuChin: “It was delicious. Yeah, it’s like naughty, dirty, stanky porn. Asleep. So good.” [52:09–52:14]
SuChin (parenting as a skill):
“How do we expect to raise children differently, better than we were raised? What frame of reference am I supposed to be pulling from?” [34:01]
SuChin (about chores):
“I am reporting live from the field to tell you that it is on average, like three hours a day...what would my life look like? What would I accomplish?” [66:04, 67:11]
As always, Kulap and SuChin blend irreverent humor (“full tits, full skin, skin from contact”), self-deprecation, and deep empathy. Their discussion is open, honest, and vulnerable, never shying from the complexity and contradictions of modern life.
If you haven’t listened to the episode, expect a shot of warmth, catharsis, and actionable self-examination. You’ll be encouraged to rethink your consumer habits, declutter for your spiritual health, parent with more intention—and to let yourself off the hook for imperfect activism and the struggles of daily life.
Find more resources, products, and mutual aid links in the show notes or on their social media.