Introducing: Born to Love (featuring Randall Park)

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Episode Summary: Introducing "Born to Love" Featuring Randall Park

Podcast Information:

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• Episode: Introducing: Born to Love (featuring Randall Park)
• Release Date: December 24, 2024
• Host/Author: Lemonada Media
• Description: [As provided above]

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1. Introduction to "Born to Love"

In this inaugural episode of "Born to Love", hosted by Ellie Kemper and Scott Eckert, listeners are introduced to a fresh and heartfelt exploration of personal passions. The show's premise revolves around delving deep into what individuals love, uncovering the layers behind their passions, and showcasing what truly lights them up beyond the surface.

2. Guest Spotlight: Randall Park

The episode features a candid and engaging conversation with Randall Park, a beloved actor and comedian renowned for his roles in popular series like "Fresh Off the Boat", "Veep", and his contributions to the Marvel and DC cinematic universes. Randall not only brings his comedic charm but also shares a profound personal story about his newfound love for running marathons.

3. Randall Park's Marathon Journey

a. The Genesis of a Passion

Randall opens up about his motivation to take on marathons, particularly the New York City Marathon, which marked his first venture into long-distance running. Reflecting on his journey, he states:

“[17:19] Randall Park: I love running, Randall. And running marathons, apparently. Yeah.”

b. The Experience of Running NYC Marathon

Describing the marathon as a "magical" experience, Randall emphasizes the communal spirit and the overwhelming support he felt:

“[18:28] Randall Park: It was magical. It was magical.”

He recounts the energy of the event, noting the countless participants and spectators that make the marathon a city-wide celebration. Randall shares insights into the physical and emotional challenges faced during the race, particularly in the later miles:

“[22:07] Randall Park: I did it in a 4:16 and I ran the whole way through.”

Despite the grueling effort, Randall highlights the sense of accomplishment and the support from fellow runners and bystanders, which fueled his determination to finish strong.

c. Motivations Beyond Personal Goals

Randall discusses the deeper reasons behind his participation, including running on behalf of a charity close to his heart:

“[51:27] Randall Park: It's called Culture City Culture with a K. It's a wonderful charity that focuses on inclusivity and acceptance for people with sensory needs.”

This philanthropic angle underscores how his personal passions intertwine with broader social causes, creating a meaningful impact beyond personal achievement.

4. The "Love it or Loathe it" Segment

In a light-hearted game segment, "Love it or Loathe it", Randall engages with Ellie and Scott, revealing his preferences and aversions in a fun and spontaneous manner. Notable moments include his fondness for singing "Happy Birthday" despite often poor performances, and his strong dislike for glasses chains:

“[43:55] Randall Park: I love it. I love it. [...] What I love about it is that it's the same thing. There are bad singers, but they sing it anyway, and they're not letting their inability deter them from celebrating a friend.”

“[45:23] Randall Park: Loathe it. [...] I don't like a cold chain on the back of my neck, you know, just hitting the back of my neck that's uncomfortable.”

These interactions showcase Randall's humor and genuine personality, adding depth to his portrayal as both a passionate marathoner and a relatable individual.

5. Insights and Reflections

Throughout the episode, Randall shares valuable insights into the mindset of a marathon runner, emphasizing simplicity and the importance of finding joy in the process:

“[29:25] Randall Park: If it was that complicated, I wouldn't have done it, you know. Like, I think for me it's like, has to be simple and it has to be, you know, something that I can imagine me like doing.”

His reflections on maintaining a balance between physical endurance and mental well-being resonate with listeners, offering inspiration for those looking to embark on similar journeys.

6. Conclusion and Future Endeavors

As the conversation wraps up, Randall expresses enthusiasm for future marathons, hinting at plans to run in London and Los Angeles. He reiterates his commitment to the charity and the personal significance of these running endeavors.

“[36:19] Randall Park: I think I. I think so. I think so.”

The episode concludes with warm appreciations from Ellie and Scott, highlighting the uplifting and wholesome nature of the discussion.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Randall Park on His Love for Running:

  “[17:19] Randall Park: I love running, Randall. And running marathons, apparently. Yeah.”

• Describing the Marathon Experience:

  “[18:28] Randall Park: It was magical. It was magical.”

• On Running Time and Achievement:

  “[22:07] Randall Park: I did it in a 4:16 and I ran the whole way through.”

• Philanthropic Motivation:

  “[51:27] Randall Park: It's called Culture City Culture with a K. It's a wonderful charity that focuses on inclusivity and acceptance for people with sensory needs.”

• Game Segment - Singing "Happy Birthday":

  “[43:55] Randall Park: I love it. I love it. [...] What I love about it is that it's the same thing. There are bad singers, but they sing it anyway, and they're not letting their inability deter them from celebrating a friend.”

• Dislike for Glasses Chains:

  “[45:23] Randall Park: Loathe it. [...] I don't like a cold chain on the back of my neck, you know, just hitting the back of my neck that's uncomfortable.”

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Final Thoughts

This episode serves as a compelling introduction to "Born to Love", setting the tone for future discussions that blend personal passion with broader societal themes. Randall Park's heartfelt narrative about his marathon journey not only entertains but also inspires listeners to pursue their own passions with authenticity and purpose.

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Transcript

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[Podcast Host 1]

Lemonade.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey Carters, we always love to let you guys know about shows that you might enjoy, and this one is called Born to Love. Born to Love is hosted by Ellie Kemper from the Office and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and her fantastically funny friend Scott Eckert. And on this show, people talk about what they love and only what they love. Each week, Ellie and Scott bring on a beloved guest to discuss their secret passion, favorite hobbies, and anything else that lights them up, which shows a whole new side to people we think we know. Jenna Fisher is obsessed with Keanu Reeves movies. Al Roker would give anything for top notch barbecue. The list goes on and on. Find out what each guest loves to love each week on Born to Love. Out now. You're about to hear an episode featuring actor Randall park where he talks about his love for running the NYC marathon and the lies you get told about how close you are to the end. After you hear this episode, search for Born to Love on your podcast app for more episodes. You can also find a link in the episode Description to take you there.

[Ellie Kemper]

Welcome to Born to Love, the show where we talk to the people we love about the things they love. I'm Ellie Kemper.

[Scott Eckert]

And I'm Scott Eckert.

[Ellie Kemper]

And today we will be talking with the beloved actor and comedian Randall Park. But first, Scott, how has your week been?

[Scott Eckert]

Good. Excellent. Good. Thanksgiving went really well. I have a very exciting thing to tell you that I'm excited about that happened to me over the Thanksgiving break. But I'm gonna save it for next week, Ellie, because it's your turn to talk about something you love.

[Ellie Kemper]

You just guaranteed our audience will be listening yet again next week to find out what it is that brought you so much joy over the Thanksgiving holiday.

[Scott Eckert]

I did. Guys, you're not going to be disappointed, but that's not what we're here to talk about today. We're here to talk about. Ellie.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

What did you love?

[Ellie Kemper]

So I. It was, it is the season of giving thanks. But I'm not going to talk about turkey or mashed potatoes or gobble gobbles, although in a way I am, because mine has to do with birds. But I. Let me just get to it, Scott. What?

[Randall Park]

I don't know.

[Scott Eckert]

I'm just. As soon as you said it has to do with birds, I got excited. It's going to be better than the thing, the thing that I got in the chamber for next week, guys, is can't possibly compare to something that Ellie Kemper loves about birds. What is it, Ellie? Tweet, tweet.

[Ellie Kemper]

Gobble, gobble. Scott. I purchased not only a bird feeder, but a shepherd's hook. Now, what are they?

[Scott Eckert]

What is a shepherd's hook?

[Ellie Kemper]

So I, I, I feel like I'm a broken record at this point. I've recently relocated to California. I have a yard for the first time in years. There's, there's an abundance of wildlife. Wildlife abounds all around me. I'm seeing birds, I'm seeing squirrels, I'm seeing coyotes. Coyotes, some people call them. I'm seeing those. That's about it. But I'm seeing a lot, a lot, a lot of wildlife. So we decided to get a bird feeder. That's pretty normal, common. But immediately, of course, our efforts were thwarted because those dirty, dirty squirrels were climbing the branches and stealing all the little bird food. You've seen it. I mean, rookie move, for one thing.

[Scott Eckert]

No, no, no. When you're buying a bird feeder, really, what you're buying is a squirrel feeder. Absolutely.

[Ellie Kemper]

Sing it. Okay. Amen. And sing it. Because that's exactly what you're doing. Unless. Enter the shepherd's hook.

[Scott Eckert]

I figured out what it is now, and I can't wait to.

[Podcast Host 1]

You're.

[Scott Eckert]

You're so excited.

[Ellie Kemper]

It is. Okay, so. So I'll. I'll tell everybody. I did not bother to do any research on where the term shepherd's hook comes from. It looks like a staff that a shepherd would use, I guess, to herd sheep. Perhaps. That's probably why.

[Scott Eckert]

That's probably where it comes from. But why, Why a shepherd would use a staff shaped like that? That's the real mystery.

[Ellie Kemper]

Well, exactly, because this shepherd's hook is, you know, it's a hook and then it swoops up so that one can hang. You know where the story's going. You can hang a bird feeder on it. So it's like a ewe. It's like a hook that keeps going up into a U. So I can hang the bird feeder right on the lowermost point of the U.

[Scott Eckert]

It's like a giant candy cane with a little hook at the bottom of the thing. I think that our listeners are smart enough to know what shape we're describing.

[Ellie Kemper]

I think they know. I know it's unlike any shape anyone's ever seen. There should be a name for it. I guess the name for it is shepherd's hook. Yeah. So I could not be happier because we thought, oh, well, should we hang some twine and put the bird feeder out you. In the middle of two branches so there's no way the squirrels could jump onto it. Should we put it on like a. A longer rope, a skinnier branch? No, we didn't do any of it. It took five seconds for me on Amazon to figure out, oh, this is what people do in this situation, Scott. It brings me so much joy. I mean, maybe I'm a little wicked, but it brings me so much joy seeing those squirrels trying and trying to climb up the skinny, slippery rail of the straight part of the cane, you know, just the rod. And they can't. And they can't. And now their efforts are thwarted because they cannot reach the bird feeder. And I'm seeing so many gorgeous birds now that they're free of these squirrel bullies. I'm seeing. Well, I don't know what any of them are. I'm seeing birds that are blue birds, birds that are altogether blue birds, birds that have only a yellow breast, birds that are maybe robins. I haven't seen cardinals. I've seen birds that are green, tiny. Not parrots.

[Scott Eckert]

You've seen all the colors of the rainbow. At your bird feeder?

[Ellie Kemper]

That's exactly it.

[Scott Eckert]

Can I ask, Ellie, which has brought you more joy? Seeing the birds enjoying their snack or seeing the squirrels denied a snack? I think based on your enthusiasm, I think the answer is clear.

[Ellie Kemper]

I think the answer is clear. I mean, do we need to say it out loud? Maybe it is delight at seeing the squirrels struggle. I mean, to me they just represent, you know, pests. And I'm not mad to see them not be able to reach the food.

[Scott Eckert]

So is there some schadenfreude? Do they actually scramble up and fall? Or they're just, you see them sort of sitting and stewing and looking longingly up at the food that they will never have.

[Ellie Kemper]

I want everyone to know no squirrels are injured in this effort in the shepherd's hook construction. They are not sliding all the way down. They can't even get up to begin with. So they're just staring longingly. And I can see them, their brains ticking away. How can I do this? But squirrels aren't smart enough to figure out how. That's a little sad, but they're not smart enough. And certainly the I, by the way, I'm not saying the birds would have been smart enough.

[Scott Eckert]

I mean, birds have the advantage of flight.

[Ellie Kemper]

That's it.

[Scott Eckert]

Yes.

[Ellie Kemper]

But what I'm saying is the squirrels being able to figure out how to get food out of the bird feeder on a branch, that's one thing birds have, no offense, bird brains. So, I mean, they're not smart. I don't even know why this became an intelligence competition, but I am delighted by both. But maybe a little bit more that seeing that I, I've won in this squirrel battle. And the squirrels are. They're getting plenty of food around the yard. I don't know what they eat, but they're fat or well fed. So I'm loving it. I'm loving it.

[Scott Eckert]

You're not the only one. My father is a huge bird feeder guy. He's got multiple bird feeders. One question I have for you, I think that you've already answered, but as somebody who knows a little something about bird feeders, do you have just a regular seeds as the food or is it a hummingbird feeder? Because that's the next level and I really enjoy seeing hummingbirds.

[Ellie Kemper]

We have two. You have two. Oh, we pulled out all the stops.

[Scott Eckert]

Is one of them a hummingbird feeder with that sweet, sweet nectar?

[Ellie Kemper]

Yes, yes it is. And that one we need to get, dare I say, a second shepherd's hook. Not because the squirrels are going, but Because I can't drink on syrup.

[Scott Eckert]

Those squirrels, the only reason they can't figure out how to climb the shepherd's hook is because they're so. They're so blitzed out of their minds on that sugary hummingbird fluid.

[Ellie Kemper]

Completely inebriated. They are wasted beyond compare. I can't see the hummingbird where. Feeder where we've put it. So it's like you have to open the door to go see it. And I just want to see it out my window as I'm doing the dishes. So I think we need to change. And I do think there's going to be a taller shepherd's hook in our very near future.

[Scott Eckert]

Or a multi tiered shepherd's hook.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah, we're. I don't know. We live like kings over here.

[Scott Eckert]

You do. You're like a woodland queen. You, like, reach out your arms and the birds come to you like. Is that Snow White? Who does that?

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

She's friends with the mice, though. She doesn't tease the mice. She doesn't glory and revel in the fact that the mice are hungry.

[Ellie Kemper]

Touche. Can I just tell you? Touche. Do you guys know Touche means like, well done. Like, it means like, I. I accept that. You just gave me a sick burn. Okay, Touche. I had to brag that I knew. All right, Scott, that's what I'm loving this week. It's been such a wonderful week of watching birds eat and squirrels struggle. But Scott, let's pivot now to who we are talking to this week. The wonderful Randall Park.

[Scott Eckert]

Randall Park. I mean, that's the most exciting part of my week. I mean, I bragged about my next week's love. But, you know, maybe it'll change to this conversation with Randall Park. Cause he's one of my favorites. Ellie, do you want to tell our listeners a little bit more about Randall?

[Ellie Kemper]

Yes, guys, Randall park is an actor and a comedian who you probably know from his role on the very long running sitcom. I don't know why I said very long running. Long running. Not just long. Very long running sitcom. Fresh off the boat. Or maybe you've seen him in Veep, the Office or that scandalous movie, the Interview. Do you remember that 2014 wild time?

[Randall Park]

I do.

[Scott Eckert]

It made North Korea very unhappy.

[Ellie Kemper]

I can't believe it was that long ago. 10 years ago. I feel like it was yesterday. But you know what? North Korea is still angry with us. So Randall is also the director of the beautiful movie Shortcomings. And best of all, he and I actually crossed paths when he was part of a fan favorite episode of the Office. So I'm very happy that we get to cross paths once again. Everybody, when we come back, we are going to talk to the very funny, very charming Randall Park.

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[Ellie Kemper]

We are back. We are here with the very funny, very talented, very entertaining Randall Park. Hi, Randall.

[Randall Park]

Hi. Hello. Thank you for having me.

[Scott Eckert]

Oh, it's a delight to have you. Thank you for joining us. You are, as everyone knows, an actor, writer, director. You are a member of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and the DC Universe, but we're not going to talk about any of that. None. We're here to talk about what you love. So, Randall, tell us, what do you love?

[Randall Park]

I love running, Randall. And running marathons, apparently. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

We had a little joke. My interest are few in this world and in fact, maybe there's one interest that I have and it's running. So we were joking a little bit between the two of us. Scott and I were having a little laugh that we have overlapping interest, singular, which is running. I want to hear all about this love for those of you who don't know, and I'll let you talk about it. Randall, you just completed the New York City Marathon, which was your first marathon, right?

[Randall Park]

Very first marathon.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah.

[Randall Park]

Yep. That we have in common as well.

[Ellie Kemper]

Right?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Randall Park]

Yes.

[Ellie Kemper]

I ran the marathon again. I participated. I didn't run the whole thing in the marathon in 2022. What. Because this is called Born to Love. What did you love about the marathon?

[Randall Park]

It was. It was magical. It was magical.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yep.

[Randall Park]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Get it.

[Ellie Kemper]

I get it.

[Randall Park]

Yeah. And I think a lot of it, too, was the buildup to the marathon that helped make it magical for me, which we could talk about. But the actual marathon was. It was just incredible. Like, just all the people who come out and I mean, it really is a testament to the city. You know, I mean, I really kind of. I mean, I've fallen in love with New York over and over again throughout my life, but I really fell deeply in love with New York while I was running it because I was like, wow, these people are just incredible. And just so. I don't know, just positive and also funny. Like, the signs that they. That they showed were just so funny and joyful, and that was really special. And then also the camaraderie with the other runners was really special. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

I'm assuming there were like 200,000 people cheering. Is that estimate insane? If there are 50,000 runners, would you say. Yeah, maybe that estimate is insane.

[Randall Park]

I don't know. But it felt like it. It certainly felt like it.

[Ellie Kemper]

I want to ask about the day itself. Okay. Because I wasn't sure which adjective you're going to use. You said the experience was magical, and you said the day of. Or you said, like, the marathon was. And I was waiting for that adjective. Because I'm going to tell you this first, and then I want you to.

[Randall Park]

Yes, yes.

[Ellie Kemper]

Because when I finished the marathon, I didn't feel. I didn't feel great.

[Randall Park]

Wait a minute. Okay. How did. How did you feel?

[Ellie Kemper]

I felt a little sick. I felt relieved that I had done it because I wasn't sure. And I read some articles with you that you had said, you know, you hope you finish it. You were keeping everything. You were taking everything in stride. You weren't sure if you were going to finish it. If you're gonn. When. What time you were going to. You were playing that part.

[Randall Park]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Ellie Kemper]

And so was I. Yeah.

[Randall Park]

I didn't want to set myself up for, you know, to look like. If there were photos of me being on a stretcher at mile 15.

[Ellie Kemper]

No, I know.

[Randall Park]

I didn't want to, you know. Yeah. Yep. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Can I. Can we just, like the elephant in the room. Can we talk about. Can I ask what your time was?

[Randall Park]

So. Okay. Wait so let me preface this by saying my goal was to finish. That was it. I did have a secondary goal to not stop or walk.

[Ellie Kemper]

What?

[Randall Park]

To not stop or walk. Just to run. That was my secondary goal. But that was like, that's huge. But that was like, if I just finish. That's fine. That's not fine. It's incredible. If I just finished, it's incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's incredible. But my second goal was to, yeah. To try not to, to stop or to walk unless I, you know, if I had to. It's fine. It was as long as I finished. But I, I ran it in a 4:16 and.

[Ellie Kemper]

What?

[Randall Park]

And I ran the whole way through, which was. Yeah, yeah, Randall. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

So I wanted to ask because I ran it in over five hours. I don't remember my exact time. And that's not, I'm not. It just, I actually don't remember it. Maybe there is a part of my pride that's been wounded, so I don't want to know. But it was over five hours, so I wasn't sure which is a. Guys, you can do the math. I think that's like 12 or 13 minute miles. It's not bad.

[Randall Park]

I was not, that's not, you know.

[Ellie Kemper]

That'S like, it's bad. But thank you.

[Scott Eckert]

Well, it depends how much. Over five hours it was.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah, five hours and 59 hours.

[Scott Eckert]

And 50 hours. I did it in eight hours, which is technically over five hours.

[Randall Park]

I did it in five hours and three hours.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yes. Five hours was, was part of what I ran. But yes. So I didn't want to, you know, I wanted to know where we were coming from, because if you had run it in seven hours or something, I just wanted to be sensitive to that. So you, you basically ran at a fast clip the entire time, which I'm very impressed.

[Randall Park]

I, yeah, yeah. I, Fast for me. I mean, I was, I was, you know, obviously there are people who ran it in three, you know, and, and sub three, you know, and, but yeah, no, I was, I was moving the whole time, which was. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yep. Did you feel, how did your body feel during it? Did you feel sick at all? Like, was everything, you know, they say don't try anything new on race day.

[Randall Park]

Yes.

[Ellie Kemper]

Was everything.

[Randall Park]

It felt, it felt great. In fact, I, I, I probably had a runner's high from mile two to mile 22. Oh, yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wow.

[Randall Park]

Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

And then the fourth, the last four miles were. How would you describe them?

[Randall Park]

Well, okay. The last, last. So mile 23 and 24 were a nightmare. Like I was cramping up, and I was like, I cannot. I. I want to stop, but I didn't. And then mild. The last mile was great because I. I kind of. I knew it was coming. The end was coming, and. And I kind of forgot about the pain in a weird way, because I was just, like, so focused on finishing. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

And that. Scott, you might not know this, but us inside NYC marathoners know that that last mile is uphill.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's. And it's misleading because I think you're like, you enter Central park and you're told Central park is the end.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yes.

[Randall Park]

And then you have, like, two or three more miles to go. It's, like, so much. Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

So you mean inside the park, you have to, like, go around it?

[Randall Park]

Yeah, you can kind of move around it, and it's just kind of this strange bit of a maze.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yes.

[Randall Park]

And then there's markers that say, okay, you have 800, 400, 200 meters left. And then you're like, oh, my God. Okay, I'm almost there. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

But, yes, you enter on the east side of Central park, and then that's exactly it. You're like, I'm home. I did it. And there's so many people cheering. And then you definitely have three more miles to run, and it's hard. Yeah. Also, I'm imagining what helped to motivate is you were running on behalf of a charity.

[Randall Park]

Yes. Yes, I was running on behalf of a charity that I'm on the board of, and they've asked me numerous times every year if I've wanted to run the marathon. And I said, no, I like to run, but I don't like to cry. And. And, yeah. And then. Yeah. And then, you know, I turned 50. I turned 50.

[Ellie Kemper]

Oh, my Lord.

[Randall Park]

And my.

[Ellie Kemper]

I don't mean that. That's old. That sounded like I was like, oh, my Lord. I just meant that's a lot to celebrate 50 with 26.2 miles.

[Randall Park]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Like a big birthday present.

[Randall Park]

And. And it's old. And it's old. And your shot that I'm 50 and you want to end this podcast, that's fine. But, yeah, I. I felt like it was like, I don't know, a nice. I'm big into symbols, and I'm big into, you know, signs, and I'm big into. Sometimes you got to create your own symbols and signs, and I wanted to create a symbol for myself that. But remind me or tell me, let me know that 50, I could still do anything I want to do you know, And I still have so much more life in me and, and I'm still just beginning and what better way to kind of, you know, metaphorically capture that in an experience than completing a marathon, you know?

[Ellie Kemper]

Oh my gosh.

[Scott Eckert]

Yeah, Randall. Because I'm someone who has never had a runner's high and maybe that's just because I haven't run far enough. But like, I don't know, once, once I get to about a mile, maybe two, I'm, I'm tapping out and, and I guess maybe you need to go longer than that. But when did you first tap into that? And one reason I'm asking is because my daughter just started sixth grade, she just joined the cross country team and she seems to, to have that.

[Randall Park]

Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

And, and I never did, you know, run in the mile in, in PE or whatever. So. So when did you discover running, your love?

[Randall Park]

You know, I started running pretty early, maybe a little older than your daughter, but I was a pretty chubby kid. And when you grow up in a Korean immigrant household and, and you're chubby, you hear it, you know, like often and you get criticized a lot for, you know, and I probably sometime around middle school is when I started, like, okay, I'm gonna exercise a little bit. And that's when I got into running. And really it was just like, I'm gonna run around the block, you know, twice, and then it would be become four times, you know, and, and yeah, and by the time I was in high school, I was doing, I don't know, seven, eight miles at a time, you know, and, and that kind of was the max for me, you know, like throughout my life, into my adulthood, you know, until the.

[Scott Eckert]

Yeah, Randall. I'm immensely impressed by the feat of finishing a marathon to both of you. Congratulations. But one of the things that particularly impresses me about you both in this conversation, but then also the article that we read is you seem to have just like the healthiest matter of fact approach to the whole thing. I, as a non runner, am so often daunted by, I don't know, just like all of the trappings of runner's world or whatever. And like, not just the terminology, but the sort of attitude and something jumped out to me in the article, the interview you did for gq. They said, you know, do you have any rituals or warm ups and do you remember what you said to warm up before you go?

[Randall Park]

I probably said, no, I don't.

[Scott Eckert]

You said, well, I walk a little before.

[Randall Park]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

It's so balanced that's the best. That's the best.

[Scott Eckert]

My imagination is that a marathoner who's running, you know, four hour marathons has got a whole laundry list of shit that they do. And it's like, I think you might have said you stretch so.

[Randall Park]

Not a little. Yeah. Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

How put on is that? Is there a fire inside of you secretly or is it really just like you said? It's like. Well, it's just something I decided I wanted to do. I was turning 50 and give myself a sign.

[Randall Park]

I think I. Yeah, it's. I mean, I. I think it's. If it was that complicated, I wouldn't have done it, you know, Like, I think for me it's like, has to be simple and it has to be, you know, something that I can imagine me like doing. And I think if there was just too many things to do to check off a checklist beforehand, you know, it probably isn't for me, you know, and there's nothing more simple than running. It's like we.

[Ellie Kemper]

Right.

[Randall Park]

You know, like if you're lucky enough to be able to run, it's like you can, anyone can do it at any time. And granted, yeah, training for a marathon takes, you know, some discipline and a little bit more of a checklist of things you want to do. It's still relatively simple, you know, and. And I feel like most things when you really break it down, are pretty simple, you know?

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah. Now there's that wisdom again, because you had said that you. During a 20 mile run, and this is something that I have. I'm coming from a different place, which is maybe a little bit. I'm easily distracted or have trouble focusing, but that you ran one of your 20 mile runs, like training runs, with just nothing, no podcasts, no music, nothing in your ears, just the sound. You said you liked listening to yourself breathe and being able to hear yourself breathe.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

And that. I was thinking about that because I thought, well, maybe I'll try that on my next little three mile run. Because that is meditative, which I believe is what you're describing, sort of that it's a meditation.

[Randall Park]

Completely. Completely. And that's to me, like, really, I like to get high, you know, and it's like the runner running, it offers you a great high and sometimes music or I mean, I love running with music too. I love running, listening to podcasts, but sometimes that gets in the way of hitting that high sooner, you know, and to me it's like a real pure high when you're not listening to anything. And yeah, yeah, so, again, keeping it.

[Ellie Kemper]

Simple, you know, did you say rarely I like to get high or really?

[Randall Park]

Really, I like to get high? Yeah, yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

And you. You mean smoking?

[Randall Park]

No, no, no, no. I mean running. I mean running. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

I have to clarify, because you said it so casually, and I have ways.

[Scott Eckert]

To get high than running 26.2 miles.

[Randall Park]

No, no, I like to. Yeah, yeah, no, I. The natural, Natural highs. Running and, you know, cocaine, you know, just.

[Ellie Kemper]

Okay, yeah, the runner's high. I completely understand.

[Randall Park]

I mean, I've tried, you know, I've tried marijuana numerous times in my life. It just. Yeah, it just doesn't do it for me. I, I, you know.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah.

[Randall Park]

And I'm jealous of my friends who, like, really get a lot out of it, but I. I just. Just. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't do it for me.

[Ellie Kemper]

It's a lot easier than running. But it happens with running, too. You're on this endorphin high. You're just, like, so happy. And then it does fall off. Like, I'll be running, and I come home and I'm like, why? Making, you know, pot roast for dinner. I don't know, why pot roast? Something like, there. I'm doing everything. I'm gonna clean the house and, like, let's go to the movies after. And then within, like, 10 minutes, I'm back to my regular grouchy self, yelling at everyone. But it's. When it lasts.

[Randall Park]

When it lasts. It's great. It's so good. It's like, it's so amazing. But there's also the other high, which is less of, like, an immediate high, but just the feeling of accomplishment, you know, the feeling that, like, just doing hard things, I think is good for us, you know, and it does something for your confidence. It does something for your, you know, your health, you know, and, yeah, I think those things are really important, at least for me.

[Ellie Kemper]

Did you feel like I noticed I had been told about this, but if you wear your name on your shirt, well, now you're famous, so people know who you are, but. But if you wear your name on your shirt, that people will cheer for you. And it was an astounding, like, invigorating thing to hear hundreds or dozens of people shouting your name as you run. Did you have that?

[Randall Park]

I didn't. You know what? They. They gave me a thing to put on my shirt with my name on it, and I didn't because a part of me, like, thought I would get distracted by it totally. But I was running with somebody, and she had her Name on her shirt. And while we were running together, everyone was yelling, michelle. Go, Michelle. And I was like, why aren't they cheering my name? I need to hear my name, because this is not easy. And then some people will recognize me, obviously, but. But, you know, the name on the shirt was something I should have done.

[Ellie Kemper]

I get it.

[Randall Park]

But towards the end, I did not want to hear anything like. Yeah. So I, like, put on my sunglasses and my hat really low and just try to finish it, you know, because I. Yeah, but it's really so. It's just so lovely, you know, that everyone is there to cheer you on, and if you do have your name on your shirt, they're just, like, yelling your name. And. And, yeah, it was really, really cool to see. And a part. A part of me was like, I should have had my name on my shirt just to, like, get the encouragement. But another part of me was like, you know, I'm glad I just kind of did it as a runner.

[Ellie Kemper]

Right.

[Randall Park]

Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Right. I also. I don't know if you get this way, but I. If someone says my name, I need. I want them to know that I heard them. That's, like, exhausting, too.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Because you can't be saying, like, yeah, yeah, what? Oh, okay. As you're running.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, yeah. And, you know, my favorite part of the whole experience was actually that night and the next day, walking around because I wore my medal because I, you know, because I just wanted people to say congratulations and show me and get any kind of validation from strangers.

[Podcast Host 1]

Of course.

[Randall Park]

Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

But the first thing you did was you put your name, Randall, on your shirt the way you should have before the regular. And then you wore your medal, and.

[Randall Park]

You walked around, and I held a sign that said, I ran the marathon. But. But. And then seeing other people wearing their medals, going up, talking to them, you know, connecting, hearing their, like, why they ran it, and, you know, and it just felt like such a, you know, a community. And, you know, when you have a shared experience, it's just like, such a bonding thing. Especially shared experience is hard, you know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And it was really cool. It's really cool.

[Ellie Kemper]

It might be too soon to ask, but do you think you'll be doing another one?

[Randall Park]

I think so. I think so.

[Ellie Kemper]

Oh, the bug bits.

[Randall Park]

Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

The marathon bug has bit you.

[Randall Park]

Yeah. The charity is asking. They're asking if I want to run the London one. And. And I love London.

[Scott Eckert]

Yeah.

[Randall Park]

I love London. So I think I. I'm still thinking about it. It.

[Ellie Kemper]

When. Like this year. Like. Like Within. You would do two marathons in a year?

[Randall Park]

No, no, no, no. It would be. It would be next year in. In first half of the year. Some. Sometime. Yeah. And then the LA Marathon, too, is. I mean, that's where I was born and raised. That's where I live. So that's another one. I. I have to run at some point, but.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yep.

[Randall Park]

But. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Oh, my gosh, I'm impressed. I have the. The. Any pain has already faded from your memory, although it sounds like you had a pretty positive experience the whole time. It sounds like I was the one who was in pain.

[Randall Park]

I was in sever. I mean, I was like. But. But I. I still could walk. Like, I walked around the city, but it was not easy. It was not easy, you know?

[Ellie Kemper]

No. I mean, no, it's not, and it shouldn't be. And that's why I keep. I'm like. I know the 26.2 miles is significant because of the run from. What is it, Sparta to Athens.

[Randall Park]

Something like this guy.

[Ellie Kemper]

Some.

[Scott Eckert]

Some kind of thing from the town of. From the little village of Marathon. I think that's right, Scott.

[Ellie Kemper]

Everybody's a little sick of your smarts, Scott. And knowing that the two marathoners were not sure what marathon was. No, sorry.

[Scott Eckert]

While you guys were running, I was reading books about ancient Greek history. Randall, this has been such an absolute delight. Do you have any final thoughts about your love of running or your love of marathons that we haven't gotten to touch on yet?

[Randall Park]

I think. I think. I don't think everyone necessarily needs to try to do a marathon, you know, But I do think that if you're able to run and it's such a great. Just a practice, you know, it's such a great practice. And I. And I encourage people, Scott, to, you know, lace up your shoes, do a block or two, and then, you know, a few days later, just add on a little bit and just kind of keep doing that. And then before you know it, you'll be. You'll hit a runner's high and you'll be like, I gotta keep doing this.

[Scott Eckert]

Yeah, I'll be a running junkie.

[Randall Park]

That's my goal.

[Scott Eckert]

Running junkie.

[Randall Park]

Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Brandall, thank you so much. Do you have a minute or two to stick around to play a game with us?

[Randall Park]

Sure. Sure. Yes, I do.

[Ellie Kemper]

All right, guys, we'll be back to play Love it or Loathe It. With Randall park.

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[Ellie Kemper]

And we're back. Okay, guys, we have a favorite game and an only game we like to play. It's called Love it or loathe it. Scott, why don't you introduce it this time? Because every time I explain it, I make it way too long.

[Scott Eckert]

This is like episode 50 something. I've never had to explain it, Randall. But the good news is it's very simple.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah, it is.

[Scott Eckert]

We're going to give you four different items. They've been chosen at random by our wonderful producers, and you're going to have to tell us if you love them or you loathe them. The trick is there's no in between. There's no wishy washy. You gotta decide, do you love it or do you loathe it?

[Randall Park]

Okay, okay. Okay.

[Scott Eckert]

All right, Ellie, so why don't you take us away. The first item of Love it, Loathe it, Love it or loathe it with Randall Park.

[Ellie Kemper]

And Randall, we would welcome your explanation as to why you love or loathe it. It's not just bang.

[Randall Park]

Not just love it, loath it. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Ellie Kemper]

No.

[Randall Park]

Okay.

[Ellie Kemper]

Nope. We need to know why.

[Randall Park]

Okay.

[Ellie Kemper]

All right, Randall. Love it or loathe it? Singing Happy birthday day.

[Randall Park]

Love it. Love it. I love it.

[Ellie Kemper]

Excellent.

[Scott Eckert]

Long pause, though.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, Yeah, I. I pause because sometimes it's. It's. It's really bad or often it's. The singing is really bad. Right.

[Scott Eckert]

And yeah, almost every single time.

[Randall Park]

Almost every single time there are. There are really bad singers. And I thought, oh, well, that's not nice to hear, you know? But then what I love about it is that it's the same thing. There are bad singers, but they sing it anyway, and they're not letting their inability deter them from celebrating a friend. And I think that's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing. So, yeah, that's why I love.

[Ellie Kemper]

That is. It was a beautiful explanation. And also, just the route you followed during that Loving or Loathing was so.

[Randall Park]

I was winging it the whole time. I didn't know what. I didn't know what the hell I was saying.

[Ellie Kemper]

Okay, you know what? It tracks.

[Randall Park]

It was wonderful.

[Ellie Kemper]

That was the correct answer. Okay, Scott.

[Scott Eckert]

All right, Randall. Love it or loathe it? Sunglasses chains or regular glasses Chains. You know, the little chains behind the glasses that people wear.

[Randall Park]

Loathe it.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yep.

[Randall Park]

Loathe it.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yep.

[Scott Eckert]

Yeah, I think that's my instinct, too. What's your reason?

[Randall Park]

Well, I mean, on a. On a personal, like, thing, it's just. I don't like a cold chain on the back of my neck, you know, just hitting the back of my neck that's uncomfortable. But also it's like, why are your glass sunglasses so big for your face? It's like, get a pair that fits and. And then it'll stay. It'll stay. And if you have to take them off, take them off and hold them.

[Ellie Kemper]

Right. Remove it from your body.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, yeah. Why do you need it hanging? You know, why do you, like spit can fall. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Or food, you know, or, you know, whatever. It's. I don't know. It's just extra, you know, without. We don't need that, you know? Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

Well put. As always, to me, it seems like when. When I hear about those glasses chains I associate with surfers, maybe they have a reason to wear. Maybe the. The surf and the sea and the wind. Maybe they need them.

[Randall Park]

Also, I don't think surfers have like. Like chains, you know, that's like. They probably have like, the. The more the straps, you know, it's.

[Ellie Kemper]

Like a goggle almost.

[Randall Park]

Yeah. Yes.

[Ellie Kemper]

Croakies is exactly what I was thinking of. And then I wasn't sure if I was thinking Oakley, but I was thinking croakies.

[Randall Park]

Croakies.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah. Scott, we do have to all not correct you, but we all will say, because I'm always wrong. So I'm. I'm not correcting you. I'm saying that when the servers have on sunglasses, I don't think it's on a chain.

[Randall Park]

Yes.

[Scott Eckert]

Well, I'm just gonna go on record here and saying I'm the opposite of humiliated, that I didn't know the name of that thing that surfers use to keep it on their heads. Okay, so I'll, if you're chastising me, I'll gladly accept it. I don't, I've never heard the word croakies before, and I'm proud of it.

[Ellie Kemper]

That is the correct answer, Scott. Okay.

[Randall Park]

All right. I'm so sorry for starting a fight here.

[Ellie Kemper]

I know you did. You know what? It was already brewing. You just like, brought it to the surface. Okay, ready? Love it or loathe it? Cast iron pans love it. Okay. Why?

[Randall Park]

I don't know. I, I mean, I, I, I don't. Oh, no, I do have a cast iron pot, but I just feel like they're, they're, they're just so charming, like, and, and they're beautiful. You know, they're beautiful. They're rustic. They're, they're also make great weapons. If, if someone were to break into.

[Ellie Kemper]

Your house, you know, 100.

[Randall Park]

You hit someone with a regular pan, it's like they'll like a joke. Yeah. But you hit someone with a cast iron pan that you could kill them. You know, if someone were to break into your house in a good way, if they're home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Well, yeah. Or by accident.

[Randall Park]

Yeah. Or if you're a home invader and you want to protect yourself from being attacked with a regular pan. Bring a cast iron.

[Ellie Kemper]

I'm in with it.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Correct. Yeah, I will. I'm just going to point out, I think in my cast iron experience, they are so hard to clean. Does anyone else have that?

[Randall Park]

I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

[Ellie Kemper]

Okay.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

All right. You kill them and then you just leave the pan.

[Randall Park]

I'm just talking about weapons. That's all. I.

[Scott Eckert]

Now home invasion defense implement is really Randall's experience.

[Ellie Kemper]

That makes sense.

[Scott Eckert]

Well, I have a thought. I have a question for you. Just quick follow up, Ellie, for the difficulty to clean. Are you abiding by the rule that you're not supposed to use soap?

[Ellie Kemper]

I, no, I'm not.

[Scott Eckert]

Neither am I. I'm like, what are you talking about? All these foodies are like, yeah, you don't use soap with a cast iron pan. And I'm like, I fucking do. I'm not gonna let old food sit on my pan. Fucking for. That's the dumbest thing in the world.

[Ellie Kemper]

They're like, no, no. You must put Oil on it and put it in the oven. What?

[Scott Eckert]

Well, it's like to each his own. For better chefs than I. Go for it. You know, clean your pans by putting them in the oven or whatever. I'm just gonna. Just. Just wash them off with. That's right.

[Randall Park]

But bottom line, great weapons.

[Ellie Kemper]

Great weapons. They're incomparable.

[Randall Park]

Yeah.

[Scott Eckert]

All right, last one, Randall. Love it or loathe it. Sweater vests.

[Randall Park]

Sweater vest. Love it, love it.

[Ellie Kemper]

Okay.

[Randall Park]

You know, I. I don't. Oh, no. I do own a couple, and I don't wear them that often, but again, it's the idea that I love. You know, it's. It's all timey. I like old timey things, and. And I. You know, anything that old men wear, to me, is a style move. You know, it's like a great move. And it's also probably practical in some way. You know, if you're. If you have a warm jacket and you want to keep your, you know, chest warm, it's like. But you don't want to, you know, kind of make the arms too, I don't know, too tight or, you know.

[Scott Eckert]

If you've got hot arms.

[Randall Park]

Yeah, if you got hot arms and you want to wear your jacket, you put on the sweater vest. Yes, right. They also make for great weapons. If you.

[Scott Eckert]

Is your sweater vest made of chain mail, perhaps?

[Randall Park]

Yes. If they're made of chain and not croakies.

[Ellie Kemper]

Then again, there's nothing like it. Okay, well, you happen, Randall. This rarely happens. You won the game. You got every answer correct.

[Randall Park]

Oh, my God.

[Scott Eckert]

Thank you.

[Randall Park]

Thank you so much.

[Ellie Kemper]

More for four.

[Randall Park]

Thank you.

[Ellie Kemper]

Thank you so much for being our guest today and for taking the time to chat about marathons with us. And, Randall, did you want to just mention the charity that you ran this marathon on behalf of?

[Randall Park]

Yes, absolutely. It's called Culture City Culture with a K. It's a wonderful charity that focuses on inclusivity and acceptance for people with sensory needs. Folks like my daughter Ruby, who's on the autism spectrum and has specific sensory needs. And it's just about. In numerous ways, it's about making the world just a better place for folks like my daughter.

[Ellie Kemper]

Oh, that's wonderful. Thanks for doing that work.

[Randall Park]

Yes, thank you.

[Scott Eckert]

Outstanding. Yeah. Thank you.

[Ellie Kemper]

All the best to you as you train for your next marathon.

[Randall Park]

Thank you, Ellie. Thank you, Scott. That was so fun.

[Ellie Kemper]

Well, Scott, I mean, if I couldn't imagine a more uplifting, wholesome conversation than what we just had with sweet Randall, that was so lovely all around.

[Scott Eckert]

It was Wholesome, minus all of the weapon fixation there at the end, but wonderful conversation. I was almost persuaded to start running.

[Ellie Kemper]

What's holding you back? Why almost?

[Scott Eckert]

Oh, I don't know. You know, everybody's got their strengths and stretches. Ellie, what are you looking forward to this week?

[Ellie Kemper]

Do you know what? That. So far, I don't mean to be, like, all running all the time, but I signed up for a little 5K. Just a little, you know, jingle bell, jog, whatever they call it. Turkey trot. Some people are still doing turkey trots. Even though Thanksgiving's over. I just signed up for a local 5k. I am so excited because I haven't run in a race in a long time. And I am. I'm at a bit of a, like. Like, I don't know, standstill. It's hard to get motivated to run sometimes or to do anything sometimes. To get out of bed? No, no. But I am excited to. To run with a bunch of people, and the times don't matter. I'm gonna try to challenge myself, but I'm looking forward to it. It'll be a nice little shot in the arm, as they say. Scott, how about you?

[Scott Eckert]

I am looking forward to my daughter's 12th birthday.

[Ellie Kemper]

What?

[Scott Eckert]

She actually just turned 12, but. But her party is gonna be this weekend. And the fun thing, the most fun thing about being in sixth grade, like my daughter, is that she's got a couple of different friend groups. She's got middle school friends and elementary school friends, so they each get their own party. So she's getting. So she's getting a middle school party. She's getting an elementary school party. And she. We just celebrated a family party. So this birthday of hers is. We're. We're taking it to the max, and I'm excited.

[Ellie Kemper]

Jenny deserves the max. You will be celebrating every ounce of birthday there is. I am excited to hear. We love Jenny. We here at Born to Love. We love Jenny. We do. She's an amazing human being. You know what? It's. I laughed, but it's absolutely true. Well, that's wonderful. I hope you guys have wonderful multiple parties, and I might crash them.

[Scott Eckert]

You're totally welcome. Well, we'd probably have to organize a special one just for you. A podcast party. We'll do it.

[Ellie Kemper]

Oh, I thought you said outcast party.

[Scott Eckert]

I said podcast party, but outcast might.

[Ellie Kemper]

Apply everybody who didn't make the first three cuts.

[Scott Eckert]

It would be pretty funny if you showed up to her elementary school party, because then you would be the outcast. So it wouldn't be a separate party. Yeah.

[Ellie Kemper]

Oh, oh, I see. Yeah, exactly. Right. Well, maybe I just will.

[Scott Eckert]

If it was was 512 year old girls and you.

[Ellie Kemper]

Yeah. Who do you think would be cast out of that one? Yeah. All right, do the math. You guys. Thanks so much for joining us for another episode of Born to Love. If you want to find me, I am at L. Kemper on Instagram.

[Scott Eckert]

And if you want to find me, I am me Scott Eckert on Twitter. And be sure to leave us a five star review. If you have any thoughts or questions in the show, send us an [e-mail].

[Ellie Kemper]

There is more Born to Love with Lemonada. Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content where we flip the script and we talk about something we don't love.

[Scott Eckert]

This week I am going to gripe about water bottles, specifically children's water bottles. And I've got a whole take that I think our premium subscribers will be dying to hear.

[Ellie Kemper]

So here are gripes, not just our loves, but only if you subscribe in Apple Podcasts.

[Scott Eckert]

Born to Love is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producers are Keegan Zema and Ari Abrachi. Our engineers are Ivan Koraev and James Sparber. Our SVP of weekly production is Steve Nelson, and our cover art photography is by Tony Russo.

[Ellie Kemper]

Executive producers are Jessica Cordova, Kramer, Steve, Stephanie Wittleswax, Ellie Kemper and Scott Eckert. Follow Born to Love wherever you get your podcast or listen ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership.

[Scott Eckert]

We'll be back next week with more Born to Love. But before we go, in the immortal words of Forrest Gump, I just felt like running.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why, hello there.

[Sarah Silverman]

This is your pal Sarah Silverman. You know, the standup comic that's not afraid of a diarrhea joke. Oh my God, I'm so br. I hope you're enjoying this podcast that you're listening to. I am just dropping in here to let you know about another podcast I think you'd like, and it's called the Sarah Silverman Podcast. Each week, listeners from all over the world call in and they ask me for advice or they talk about something going on in their life, anything, their silliest, grossest, deepest, darkest situations. And then I respond, whether I'm qualified to or not. Go ahead, search for the Sarah Silverman Podcast wherever you get your podcast.

[Podcast Host 2]

Bye.

[Ellie Kemper]

Hi everyone.

[Gloria Rivera]

Gloria Rivera here. And we are back for another season of no One Is Coming to Save Us, a podcast about America's childcare crisis. This season we're delving deep into five critical issues facing our country through the lens of childcare, poverty, mental health, housing, climate change, and the public school system. By exploring these connections, we aim to highlight that childcare is not an isolated issue, but one that influences all facets of American life. Season 4 of No1 Is Coming to Save Us is out now, wherever you get your podcasts.