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[00:01]
Reshma Sajani
Hi, I'm Reshma Sajani, founder of Girls who Code. Look, I'd consider myself a pretty successful adult woman. I've written books, founded two successful nonprofits, and I'm raising two incredible kids. But here's the thing. I still wake up wondering, is this it? And if the best years are yet to come, when's that going to start? Join me on my so Called Midlife, my new podcast with Lemonada Media, where we're building a playbook for navigating midlife one episode at a time. Each week, I'll chat with extraordinary guests who've transformed their midlife crisis into opportunities for growth and newfound purpose. At some point, we all ask ourselves, is there more to life? I'm here to discover how to thrive in my second act, right alongside you. My so Called Midlife is out now, wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ellie Kemper
Hi, I'm Ellie Kemper from the Office and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. And this is my fantastically funny friend, Scott Eckert.
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Gretchen Rubin
Hi, everyone.
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Ellie Kemper
We host a podcast called Born to Love. It's a show where we talk to the people we love about the things they love.
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Scott Eckert
Each week we bring on a celebrity guest to discuss their secret passion.
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Ellie Kemper
Did you know that my friend Jenna Fisher loves Keanu Reeves movies?
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Scott Eckert
She does, she does.
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Ellie Kemper
And how about Al Roker, Samantha Bee, Tony Hawk, Jane Lynch?
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Scott Eckert
What do they love, Ellie?
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Ellie Kemper
You have to listen to the show to find out. So check out Born to Love wherever you get your podcast from Lemonada Media.
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Gretchen Rubin
Lemonada. Hello and welcome to Happier a part where we talk about how to make our lives happier. This week we'll talk about another reason to use it or lose it. And we share many intriguing examples of one word themes from listeners. I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer, studies happiness, good habits, human nature, secrets of adulthood. I'm in New York City, and joining me today from Los Angeles is my sister, Elizabeth Craft. And Elizabeth, the door is swinging open as we bounce into this new year.
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Elizabeth Craft
That's me, Elizabeth Craft, a TV writer and producer living in L. A. And yes, Gretch. I love the use of our one word themes for the year. Door and bounce.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yes. So before we launch in, a few updates. If you're listening, on the day this lands, it is January 8th, and my new Habits for Happiness course is in full swing. I am thrilled to announce a new way to join. This is the 90 day habit kickstart. This is a new option that will allow you to try the course for three months at a discounted rate. You'll get access to the full course experience in a condensed format. You might want to consider this option if you prefer a concentrated burst of guidance and support to get you started or you want to test the waters before committing to the full year. Enrollment for this closes in mid January, so go to happiercast.com habitscourse if you want to join today.
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Elizabeth Craft
Such a good idea.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah. More good habits for everybody in 2025.
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Elizabeth Craft
Okay Gretch, we also wanted to share this from Michelle. She says I wanted to share a five senses idea. The daughter of a good friend had major jaw surgery that left her with her jaw wired shut. I wanted to do something for her, so I made a goodie bag. I realized as I was looking for items, I tried to get items to address her four senses, no taste. I included play DOH and soft socks for touch, popcorn and pickle scented thinking putty scented lotion, a kaleidoscope and coloring book for sight. Once I realized I could do this, it helps the goody bag come together.
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Gretchen Rubin
Well. I thought this was a great idea. If you know that some sense is knocked out for a person for a time, think about leaning into the other four senses. It gives you coherence and an idea for things that might be fun gifts. I thought that was a great five senses idea.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes.
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Gretchen Rubin
And then finally, Elizabeth, we have not done an Ask us anything in a long time. And Happier in Hollywood. You guys didn't ask us anything and I thought this is so much fun. Let's do one too.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. Sarah and I try to do one every season on Happier in Hollywood.
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Gretchen Rubin
Well, I don't know why it's just so fascinating to see what questions people ask.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. So send in your questions. Ask us anything about happiness, good habits, our childhood in Kansas City, New York City, Los Angeles, what it's like to own a corgi. Whatever. Yeah, you want to know? Ask us anything.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah, these are always super fun. So that'll be upcoming in episode five twenty. Well this week for our try this at home. It is the idea to use it or lose it, but in a slightly different sense then this often comes up.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. So we have all heard this in the context of muscle that you have to use your legs. If you want to be able to use your legs, you have to do those bicep curls to keep the arm muscles going. And it is great advice.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yes.
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Elizabeth Craft
And we've also heard it for the brain.
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Gretchen Rubin
Right. Making connections with other people, reading a lot, speaking another language, things that use the brain help the brain stay active. This reminds me of one of My Proverbs of the professions a dentist sent me. It's like only brush the teeth you want to keep. So it's sort of like in big things and small, if we want to use something, we have to keep using it or it can just wither away.
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Elizabeth Craft
You and I were talking about how this also applies to just things in our life. So this came up, Gretch, when I was talking about in my 25 for 25 list that I want to go to seven events, two plus five events in person. So whether that be a podcast, taping, a stand up comic, a concert lecture, and you pointed out it's good that you're doing this because use it or lose it. We all need to go to stuff, right?
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Gretchen Rubin
Like going to the movie theater. If we want there to be movie theaters to go to, we have to go to movie theaters. If we want there to be independent bookstores to go to, we have to shop at independent bookstores. Because if people don't use these things, then they'll just go away. And so I think there's a lot of things where we really like the idea that they're there and we might think, oh, yeah, I like to use that thing, but if you don't actually use it, well, then we can't expect it to stick around.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yeah. And I think it's a good motivator. I'm thinking of a farmer's market, for instance. If you love that there's a farmer's market in your town, go to it. Right. So that it'll continue. And the thing is, it could actually get you to go when you wouldn't otherwise go. Especially I think maybe for obligers who feel obligated. Oh, I have to go to the farmers farmer's market so that it will be there.
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Gretchen Rubin
Right. Well, let's say you're doing your read 25 and 25, and so you're picking your books. It's like, go to that independent bookstore and like you say, there's something about showing up in person. You might run into a book that was like a favorite from your childhood and now you want to reread it or something catches your eye. There's a different experience when we go in person and we have to use it. There's been a lot of discussion in the news lately about how drugstores are closing again. If you want there to be a drugstore there, you have to go to the drugstore. I live in New York City and a huge thing is plays and musicals and Elizabeth, when you were just in New York City, you guys went to a Broadway show and I thought, it's right in 2025, I want to go see more live theater because I want it to be there. I love the idea that I live in a city where there is live theater, but many cities have live theater. But it will only continue insofar as people continue to go.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yeah. And that is really true. We see all around us how this actually comes to fruition. Right. That things do go away.
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Gretchen Rubin
Music stores, remember music stor.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, yes. And I love the idea of making it force me to get out there and do stuff. Then if I say, oh, there's a podcast I'd like to see recorded. Oh, do I really feel like driving to West Hollywood? Well, I should, because I want the live podcast tours to continue. It will help me actually follow through.
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Gretchen Rubin
Well, and another thing is when things are used, they seem more worthy of support. So say there's like a park. I was talking to our father about this in Kansas City when we were walking around. Like, there's been a lot of investment in the parks in Kansas City, and they look gorgeous and people are using them a lot. And when people use something, then everybody's like, well, it's worth supporting this thing in our city or our town or our neighborhood or whatever, because clearly many people are enjoying it. And so then these things also stay supported. And so again, it's just use it or lose it.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yeah. And it's just great to get out and do stuff. I mean, I think, Gretchen, I am still coming out of the pandemic. That's what I have realized recently is I'm still, still in some of those old pandemic habits. So I'm hoping 2025, I'm going to break out and I'm going to use everything.
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Gretchen Rubin
So let us know if you do try this at home and how use it or lose it works for you. And what's the context in which you're doing it? We would love to know. Let us know on Instagram threads, TikTok, Facebook. Drop us an email@podcastretchenrubin.com or as always, you can go to the show notes happiercast.com516 Coming up, we've got a happiness.
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Elizabeth Craft
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Elizabeth Craft
All right, Gretch, we're back with this week's happiness hack.
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Gretchen Rubin
Okay, this comes from my own life. So one of the things that's striking about 2025 for me is that I have so many milestone anniversaries. This is just some of the milestone anniversaries that I have ident identified. It's the 10th anniversary of our podcast. Yay. It's the 30th anniversary of my clerkship year. It's the 20th anniversary of the first meeting of my children's literature reading group. It's Barnaby's 10th birthday, so that's a kind of anniversary. And the anniversary of the day that he came to live with us. It's the 20th anniversary of when I started high intensity weight training. I actually found my first Date, which is super fun. Elizabeth, you should do that too. Cause you know, we always say, give yourself these milestones. Give yourself these ta dahs. It's very satisfying. My first book, Power, Money, Fame, Sex, A User's Guide, came out in 2000. That's a book I don't talk about that much. But man, I loved writing that book.
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Elizabeth Craft
I love that book.
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Gretchen Rubin
But the most important anniversary is the milestone anniversary, the 10th anniversary of Jamie's cure, which was January 9, 2015. It was the happiest day of my life. He had Hepatitis C that he got from a blood transfusion during a heart surgery that he had when he was a little kid. I mean, he had hepatitis C. He'd had it for a long time. It was starting to really be a problem. And then science research came up with a cure. He went on it the day it was approved by the FDA, and then he was cured in 2015. So January 9th. So here's my hack. Nobody in my family pays particular attention to this, but I have just decided January 9, 2015, was the happiest day of my life. I'm gonna mark this day. So I buy an ice cream cake for Jamie. Cause that's his favorite thing from bioscan Robbins. Sometimes I invite his parents to come over. Cause they do live right around the corner from us. But at the very least, I take a picture, I send it to everybody. I say, today's January 9th. It's amazing. This friend of mine made us this amazing artwork around his last bottle of medication. Cause I said to her, this is the most precious thing in my life. And so she made me kind of a stand with a glass bell over it with a little bluebird on it. And so I take a picture of that because I feel like I want to recognize this. And my hope is that over time, everybody will just be like, oh, yeah, that's our family holiday. But it gives me tremendous joy. You know, we talk a lot about gratitude being an important thing for happiness. It's certainly important for a happy life. But I don't like a lot of gratitude practices like the Gratitude Journal. But this is a yearly way. I'm like, I never want to take this for granted. This was truly something that was hanging over our head the whole time I knew Jamie. It was getting worse and worse, frankly. And then it just went away. And I just never want to take that for granted. I wanna be thankful for it every day of my life. But certainly once a year, I wanna really celebrate it. And so if there's a day for you that's special, like the day you got your corgis. You could just pick a day, make it a family holiday. It just elevates everyday life, I think.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. And it also gives you a reason to look for great things happening because you're saying, oh, is this a day we wanna the day of getting your dog.
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Gretchen Rubin
Right. And the research is clear that having this element of gratitude really does make us happier because it reminds us of all we have to be thankful for. So this is a different way of bringing a gratitude practice into everyday life. So I highly recommend the Gratitude holiday.
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Elizabeth Craft
Well, happy January 9th.
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Gretchen Rubin
Thank you. I need to go to Baskin Robbins tomorrow. And so now Elizabeth. We wanted to share some excellent suggestions from listeners about the one word themes they're picking for this year. I picked door, you picked bounce. And we heard so many fascinating suggestions from listeners and it's so interesting to hear why they picked what they picked.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. Mary said, I have been racking my brain trying to figure out what my one word theme will be for the year coming up. I took a piece of paper and wrote one word each morning for the past few days. The words I wrote to reflect on were colorful, renew, emerge. And then I picked dragonflies.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that. Such a great way to capture honing in all those ideas in a concrete image. Danielle wrote, my word is hyphenate. I had my son last year and since then I've dived fully into being a stay at home mom. But I've also managed to keep up with the other parts of my life. I've transitioned my career as a publicist to being freelance. I've started to regain my social calendar and me and my husband recently bought our first home. So hyphenate felt perfect. Because I want to excel in all of my different identities. Mother, freelancer, homeowner, woman in her 30s. I want to be all of these things and not get too focused on only one. For example, our new house has a lot of repairs to be done, but I don't want every weekend of my life to be all about my house. Love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. Very fitting for a particular time in life. I love that.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yes.
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Elizabeth Craft
Peter said, my word is over. I want to get projects over the line. I'm an opener and have trouble finishing. I want to get over myself and not take myself so seriously and I want to jump over hurdles in my way.
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Gretchen Rubin
I love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
That's awesome.
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Gretchen Rubin
Mary Pat wrote, mine is welcome primarily in the sense of not resisting what floats into my life. I considered acceptance, but the mental image of welcome is vibrant and active acceptance feels passive and ho hum. So this is a great example of you really want to kind of wordsmith to get exactly the right vibe. It might have the same general meaning, but by choosing a slightly different word you might find one that has a lot more energy for you.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, Liz said On our traditional Christmas morning forest walk, I was reflecting on how after a few days of singing and merriment, my voice was barely functioning. I'm an early childhood music educator, the happiest job in the world, but possibly the most strenuous. I've been noticing lately that I don't have the energy and resilience that I once had and my theme popped into my head. Strengthen. This applies not only to taking care of my singing voice by practicing good vocal hygiene and warming up religiously, but also strengthening my body, my relationships, my connection with nature. Just being mindful of tending to the things that are important to me and.
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Gretchen Rubin
Not letting them slip away, Rebecca said. My one word theme will be groove. Primarily it refers to getting my groove back after over a year of unemployment. I start my job in January. It also evokes music and movement, both of which I would like to be part of my year. I want to exercise more and listen to music more and I will again be able to afford concerts. I missed a lot of those this past year. I really want 2025 to be a groovy year. Love all those meanings.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, Linda said. I had the feeling that I at times lost my sense of humor in the stress in business and routine of daily life life. I often took comments quite literally or negatively instead of perceiving it in the fun or playful spirit it was offered. I chose the phrase yes and as my theme for the year. I took this from comedians who do an improvisation show. Whenever one of your fellow comedians says something, you need to respond with yes and and that way continue into the world or situation they've imagined and also making it possible to add something from yourself. This has been truly amazing. I quickly got used to saying yes. Yes, that's true and and I ended up joking so much more along with that person. Maybe it should be noted that I'm a rebel and often my first inclination is to say no when someone says something. I could, however, imagine this being useful for other tendencies as well.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that from the world of improv.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes.
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Gretchen Rubin
Lammy says My one word theme is stretch. Stretching before exercising and running. Stretch myself with new things. I have been wanting to learn Greek for several years now, but 2025 will be the year. Beware of overstretching and spreading myself too thin, staying flexible and stretchy both literally and figuratively. Maybe do a stretch that is time for myself. If I start to lose control and help others more than I help myself, I'm sure I can find more definitions in the weeks to come. And that's where the surrealists come in. Because one of my representations will be the Persistence of Memory by Salvador Dali, one of my all time favorite paintings. And stretchy. In fact, he has a lot of stretchy figures and symbols in many of his paintings, so I think I can find something that suits me. I love that if you go look up the Persistence of Memory, you'll see what is meant by the stretchiness. That's a great visual representation of that idea.
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Elizabeth Craft
It is. It reminds me of when you had the wave painting as your yeah, exactly. Symbol Lori said. My word is undivided and it actually came to me when listening to another podcast. They stated the number one way to show love to someone is to give them undivided attention. In our current society we are very divided having multiple things going on at the same time.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that Sandy said. I came upon Unlock and will be using a key as my symbol. For me, Unlock signifies gaining access to new information or experiences, representing the act of acquiring knowledge while overcoming challenges or completing tasks. Interestingly, I used AI to help me understand the connection just by asking Google questions like are learning and unlocking connected? And if so, how? In a way, I was already unlocking my understanding of AI.
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Elizabeth Craft
Rebecca said, I was recently diagnosed with breast cancer, underwent a mastectomy and will start chemo treatments this week. As you can imagine, this has been very overwhelming. My one word theme for 2025 is present in Stay in the present. Don't worry about the future. This comes in handy when I feel myself spiraling down a rabbit hole of worry. I bring myself back to the present by repeating my word over and over to myself as a reminder to deal only with what is happening right now. It also helps to remind myself that every day is a gift or present and to enjoy each precious moment. I also want to be mindful about spreading kindness, et cetera, presence to others.
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Gretchen Rubin
Well, best wishes for good health in 2025. That's a hard thing to go through, but it sounds like you've got a one word theme that's really helping. That's wonderful. Heather writes, My one word theme is creativity. I have really been tapping back into my creativity lately and want to make sure I continue it and make it stronger in 2025. Listening to your podcast has really inspired me to start pursuing a different career that allows me to utilize my creativity and passion for drawing. Not sure exactly where that will go yet, but I went out and bought a bracelet with a color palette on it to make sure I keep this close to my heart and hope it leads me in a direction I am excited about, especially in regards to my job. Well that's a great word.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, Tonya said. My word is stride. Oh, I like that word. It has multiple meanings for me since I want to encourage more walking and movement, but also the idea of taking things in stride and reacting to things in a calm way and not allowing anything to cause myself to go off course. My word slash phrase for 2024 was finish line and it allowed me to reach many goals including writing a children's book. Gretch My word one year was step, but I love stride.
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Gretchen Rubin
Very forward moving. Yes Rhonda says in 2021, after working from home full time since 2019, I decided to sell my home and move to somewhere warmer and closer to the coast. Before I moved, I was very disciplined with my schedule and habits and thought everything would fall into place very quickly when I moved. Boy was I wrong. I moved during the busiest time of work and everything fell apart very quickly. I have struggled since to not only come up with a one word theme, but to stick to anything I did come up with. This past year of procrastinating on every single aspect of my life, I have said over and over that I should just do it. As I was putting on my Nikes to run errands, I thought my one word theme should be just do it. But since that isn't one word, I thought maybe my one word theme should be Nike. I decided I should look up if Nike had a meaning. I was surprised to find that Nike was the Greek goddess of victory and the Nike swoosh represents her wings and symbolizes speed, movement, power and motivation. I was even able to find a beautiful Nike goddess pendant to wear. My one word theme transformed from a logo into a beautiful goddess. This gives me hope that my year will transform into something beautiful. Well, I love how doing a little bit of research into idea that captures you, leads you in these really interesting, thought provoking, energizing directions. Love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. I love how this will also keep it up top of mind.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah, because there's Nike. You'll see that logo everywhere.
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Elizabeth Craft
Jess Said. I've chosen the word plate. This has some obvious goals attached to it, namely choosing more healthy options as well as making an effort to cook for myself more often. I also chose this word because I wanted to work on enforcing my boundaries as in tectonic plates and also I'm decreasing negative selft talk and overall viewing my life and the world as prettier as in gold plating or as I prefer rose gold plating.
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Gretchen Rubin
Okay, I think getting tectonic plates as setting boundaries from the one word theme of plate that is just next level in terms of seeing the layers of association. I love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
Love it.
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Gretchen Rubin
If anybody is a Philip Pullman fan, that really reminds me of the alethiometer and its level of association. Hanley wrote, I graduated from college this December and will be jumping into a new phase of life in 2025 with no school, a real job, getting engaged, moving, et cetera. And I needed a word to describe both my upcoming year and the goals I wish to build around it. After much deliberation, my word is bloom. I find that it captures this year as a process of becoming and symbolizes transition, growth and flourishing while emphasizing patience, nurturing and embracing my journey. My life will be full of instability, but bloom reminds me of to grow where I am planted. I will bloom in my life physically, spiritually, mentally, emotionally, in my relationships with family, friends and myself. I wish to be bold and outgoing, eat healthier and mostly enjoy the beauty of life no matter what is going on. Plus, as a huge lover of flowers, this is the perfect excuse to have constant flowers in my home to symbolize my word. Love it.
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Elizabeth Craft
Love it. And Gretchen, people also had so many suggestions for us regarding our words of bounce and door. So for bounce, Pam said Elizabeth's word immediately reminded me of a Paul Simon line. We're bouncing into Graceland. Made me smile all day. Love that.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that. Debbie said. After hearing Elizabeth's one word theme for 2025, I wanted to share the song More Bounce in California by Soul Kid Number one. It's not a new song, but it's a favorite of mine and seemed fun and fitting for Southern California based Elizabeth. That was so fun I wouldn't listen to it.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, so did I. That's gotta be my theme song for the year.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah.
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Elizabeth Craft
Karen said the first thought that came to mind for Elizabeth's word was Tigger. Just food for thought.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
Which I heard from so many people about Tigger. That was actually my first thought as well, but it didn't resonate with me so that's why I went with kangaroo.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah, but there's no one bouncier than Tigger.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yeah.
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Gretchen Rubin
Irene said when I heard Elizabeth's word was bounce. I thought she should try physically bouncing on a mini trampoline or rebounder. I recently acquired one myself, and there are many health benefits. It's also a really fun form of exercise and doesn't take up much space. Check it out. Well, Elizabeth and Jack is such a huge trampoline fan. Like, you should tap into this.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. No, I love the idea of actually bouncing myself.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah. Yeah.
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Elizabeth Craft
And then, Gretch, many people pointed out that kangaroos don't go backward. Now, what I have learned is that technically kangaroos can go backward, but for a long time, people thought they couldn't. They. But I guess they don't. So I didn't even know that was part of my symbol, the forward movement. But I absolutely love it.
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Gretchen Rubin
Well, you're all about step into the future. And so, yes, bounce into the future. Bouncing forward like a kangaroo.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes.
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Gretchen Rubin
Now, as for me, many people suggested Magritte paintings. I had no idea. This was, like, completely unknown to me. Magritte, Renee Magritte has many beautiful pictures of very evocative doors kind of against the blue sky. So that was beautiful. Somebody sent me Edward Hopper's Rooms by the Sea. That's a beautiful door by the sea. Emma said, I was thinking about your door image, and it reminded me of the Portara Temple of Apollo in Naxos, Greece. It is so beautiful. I looked that up. There are all these beautiful, striking images. There are so many beautiful, striking images of doors.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yeah. And Janice said, I was intrigued by this Lego door while rummaging through random Lego pieces with my. My son. Then, days later, I heard your chosen word and knew I had to share it with you. This Lego door is just a building block to a larger structure. Hope this brings you inspiration as you think of an image for your word.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah. And Crystal said, if you're a Tolkien fan. And by the way, Crystal, I am a Tolkien fan. You might like the image of the doorway by the mines of Moria that says, speak, friend, and enter above it, which. That's a great image of a door. Or for a warmer feel, maybe the round door to a hobbit house in the Shire. I love that. That. I loved all these images. But several people suggested something to me as a symbol which had not occurred to me, which I do think I will use, which is a key. I want to find a really cool image of a key. I feel like that captures Dor in a way that I can.
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Elizabeth Craft
It's poetic.
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Gretchen Rubin
It's poetic. Yeah. But I love looking at all the images and with the wave. I had kind of a painting, so this time I wanted to switch it up a little bit, but that was cool.
[32:14]
Elizabeth Craft
And then again on the music theme, Irene said, gretchen, when I heard you pick Dor for your theme, I wondered if you knew much about the group the Doors and Jim Morrison, who was a poet and lead vocalist. I know you enjoy reading about musicians even though you claim not to be that interested in music. I thought you might like learning more about the band and their music as part of your one word theme.
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Gretchen Rubin
So, Elizabeth, this is very interesting. Well, by the way, I love the Doors, so that's a great suggestion, but I don't remember ever before with our one word theme having a musical tie in. I know this is so interesting because people are suggesting songs and music for both of us and I don't think either of us ever have had that in the past. So this is like a whole new element to think about with the one word theme because we've talked about like you wanted to have layers of associations and you wanted it to be able to be visually encapsulated. But now it's like, well, what is the soundtrack of your theme? I think this is like a whole new level for us.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, I love so Gretch, now we have this whole new thing to think about with our one word themes. And of course everybody else, we want to hear what your music is for your one word theme. But coming up, I have a one word theme related to merit. But first, this break.
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Ellie Kemper
Hi there, it's Julia Louis Dreyfus. This fall, my podcast Wiser Than Me is back for CDC with even more wisdom straight from some legendary old ladies. These chickadees have a lot to teach us. Every word is a lesson in living unapologetically and focusing on the stuff that really matters. From Lemonada Media Wiser Than Me Season three out now. Find it wherever you get your podcast. Subscribe to Lemonada Premium in the Apple Podcasts app and listen to every episode of season three A.D. free.
[34:17]
Scott Eckert
What's up everybody?
[34:18]
Elizabeth Craft
I am very excited to tell you about something we've been cooking up over here. All right, it's called Legacy Talk with Lena Waithe. It's all about celebrating the brilliance and.
[34:27]
Scott Eckert
Artistry of some of the most iconic.
[34:28]
Elizabeth Craft
Black women in entertainment. I'm honored to have been in conversation.
[34:31]
Scott Eckert
With powerhouses such as Sheryl Lee Ralph.
[34:33]
Elizabeth Craft
Jennifer Lewis, Debbie Allen and more.
[34:36]
Scott Eckert
Now in these conversations we discuss process.
[34:39]
Elizabeth Craft
Their journey and how they became the.
[34:40]
Scott Eckert
Incredible women they are. Legacy Talk from Hillman Grad and Lemonada.
[34:44]
Elizabeth Craft
Media is out November 12th on all platforms.
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Gretchen Rubin
Want a sneak preview of hot new audiobooks? Then check out yout Next Listen, a new podcast from Lemonada Media and Simon and Schuster Audio. We've got everything. The hottest new thrillers, best selling celebrity memoirs, and swoony romances. And these aren't tiny clips either. They're entire chapters you can listen to. Your Next listen is out November 11th.
[35:10]
Reshma Sajani
Wherever you get your podcasts.
[35:15]
Gretchen Rubin
Okay, Elizabeth, it's time for demerits and gold stars. And this is an even numbered episode. And that means it's your turn to talk about a demerit. What is this one word theme? Demerit.
[35:24]
Elizabeth Craft
Well, my demerit, Gretch, is I have not gotten my kangaroo symbol yet. So I have looked around, I have looked at different mugs, I have looked at little boxes that have kangaroos. I've looked at patches or whatnot, but I haven't selected one. And I need to do that. I don't want to let the year go by with me not having this physical manifestation. So I'm hoping that by saying this out loud to everybody, I will this week get my symbol.
[35:52]
Gretchen Rubin
Well, I don't have my key symbol yet. And the funny thing is I feel like just loose in my apartment. I have all these sort of intriguing keys to nothing. You know, like kind of decorative keys. But I'm like, where are they? It's the kind of thing when you're thinking, where am I going to put this thing away? It feels like you have a thousand of them. And then when you actually are looking for, you're like, where did I put that decorative key? So I want to find mine, too. I don't want to go out and buy one because I know I have one somewhere. But we want to get those visuals down before we get too far into the year.
[36:19]
Elizabeth Craft
Gretchen, what is your gold star?
[36:21]
Gretchen Rubin
I want to give a gold star to over the counter medication. I have had a cold. I got a really bad cold on Christmas Day and it has been lingering. It's one of these lingering colds. And. And I just think, wow, over the counter medication. I feel it when it's wearing off. I know in the space of like 20 minutes. Whoa. I need to take my medicine. You know, I think back on, like, the olden days when people didn't just have these things that we take for granted, even things like Neosporin and band aids and just all this stuff that we can go and get. And with these everyday minor aches and pains, it really makes such a huge difference. And again, it's very easy to take it for granted. So again, gratitude for something that I don't want to take for granted.
[37:06]
Elizabeth Craft
Yes. Yay. Medication.
[37:08]
Gretchen Rubin
And the resource for this week. So the Design youn Year Trifecta. We've been talking a lot about the one word theme. That's one element of the trifecta. If you want to learn more about the Design youn Year trifecta. So again, that's the one word theme. Read 25 and 25. So fun. And the 25 for 25 list, you know, it's just the beginning of January. You're never behind. You can jump in at any time. You can find tons of resources. And further reading to kick off your gear@happiercast.com designyouryear and now what are we reading? Elizabeth, what are you reading?
[37:41]
Elizabeth Craft
I am reading Selling Victoria's Secret and the Unraveling of an American Icon by Lauren Sherman and Chantal Fernandez.
[37:50]
Gretchen Rubin
I am rereading for the fourth time, one of which was I listened to it and I read it three times. It is short. It is amazing. The English Understand Wool by Helen DeWitt. Cannot recommend it enough.
[38:04]
Elizabeth Craft
I can't wait to read that, too.
[38:06]
Gretchen Rubin
Yeah, read 25 for 25. Make this one of them. And that's it for this episode of Happier. Remember to try this at home. Use it or lose it. Let us know if you tried it and if it worked for you.
[38:18]
Elizabeth Craft
Thank you to Chuck Reed and everyone at Lemonada.
[38:22]
Gretchen Rubin
Here's your rhyming reminder. If you like the show, tell others you know.
[38:25]
Elizabeth Craft
Until next week. I'm Elizabeth Craft.
[38:28]
Gretchen Rubin
And I'm Gretchen Rubin. Thanks for joining us. Onward and upward, Elizabeth, Are you looking for something like a keychain or a T shirt? What kind of thing are you looking?
[38:49]
Elizabeth Craft
I haven't really decided. Possibly a mug because you know, I love my mugs and then I know I'll use it, but it's gotta be the right mug. I only want a really nice mug that I know I'll savor.
[39:03]
Gretchen Rubin
You're a connoisseur.
[39:04]
Elizabeth Craft
I don't want to just get a plain old mug. So that's kind of what I'm on the hunt for.
[39:10]
Gretchen Rubin
Okay. Hi, everyone.
[39:13]
Reshma Sajani
Gloria Riviera here.
[39:14]
Gretchen Rubin
And we are back for another season.
[39:16]
Reshma Sajani
Of no One Is Coming to Save, a podcast about America's child care crisis. This season, we're delving deep into five critical issues facing our country through the lens of childcare, poverty, mental health, housing.
[39:29]
Gretchen Rubin
Climate change, and the public school system. By exploring these connections, we aim to highlight that child care is not an.
[39:37]
Reshma Sajani
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[39:42]
Gretchen Rubin
Season four of no One Is Coming.
[39:43]
Reshma Sajani
To Save Us is out now, wherever.
[39:45]
Gretchen Rubin
You get your podcast. Podcasts People love to pretend that there are simple formulas for living your best life.
[39:52]
Reshma Sajani
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[39:53]
Gretchen Rubin
Eat this and you won't get sick. Manifest it and everything will work out. But there are some things you can choose and some things you can't. And it's okay that life isn't always getting better. I'm Kate Bowler, and on Everything Happens I speak with kind, smart, funny people about life as it really is, is beautiful, terrible, and everything in between.
[40:19]
Reshma Sajani
Let's be human together.
[40:21]
Gretchen Rubin
Everything Happens is available wherever you get your podcasts.

Summary5 min read

Podcast Title: Happier with Gretchen Rubin & Elizabeth Craft
Episode: Introducing: Happier with Gretchen Rubin
Release Date: January 28, 2025
Host/Authors: Gretchen Rubin and Elizabeth Craft
Produced by: Lemonada Media

Introduction

In the latest episode of Happier, Gretchen Rubin and Elizabeth Craft delve into the compelling theme of "Use It or Lose It," exploring its implications across various facets of life. The hosts engage in thoughtful conversations, sharing personal anecdotes, listener submissions, and practical advice on maintaining and nurturing different aspects of well-being.

Main Theme: Use It or Lose It

Timestamp [04:55]
Gretchen introduces the central theme of the episode: "Use It or Lose It." She explains how this principle applies not just to physical muscles and cognitive abilities but extends to the communities and resources we value. Gretchen emphasizes the importance of active participation to ensure the survival and flourishing of the things we love.

Key Quote:
"[...] if you want there to be movie theaters to go to, you have to go to movie theaters. If we want there to be independent bookstores to go to, we have to shop at independent bookstores."
— Gretchen Rubin [06:01]

Application of the Theme

Community and Cultural Resources

Elizabeth and Gretchen discuss how patronizing local establishments like movie theaters, independent bookstores, and farmer's markets not only supports these businesses but also maintains the cultural fabric of their communities.

Personal Engagement

Gretchen shares her commitment to attending more live theater performances to ensure their continuation in New York City:
"[...] it's right in 2025, I want to go see more live theater because I want it to be there."
— Gretchen Rubin [06:27]

Creative and Social Pursuits

Elizabeth mentions her goal to attend various events such as podcasts, stand-up comedy shows, and concerts as part of her "25 for 25" list, reinforcing the idea of active participation to sustain these activities.

Listener Submissions: One-Word Themes for 2025

The episode features an engaging segment where listeners share their chosen one-word themes for the year. These themes reflect diverse aspirations and personal growth objectives.

Notable Submissions:

Mary - Dragonflies: Symbolizing renewal and transformation.
Danielle - Hyphenate: Balancing multiple roles such as mother, freelancer, and homeowner.
Peter - Over: Focusing on completing projects and overcoming personal hurdles.
Mary Pat - Welcome: Emphasizing active acceptance and openness to new experiences.
Lori - Strengthen: Enhancing physical health, relationships, and personal connections.
Rebecca - Groove: Reestablishing routine and embracing creativity after a period of unemployment.
Linda - Yes And: Adopting an improvisational mindset to foster positivity and collaboration.
Lammy - Stretch: Expanding personal limits while maintaining balance.
Jess - Plate: Focusing on healthy living and boundary-setting.
Rhonda - Nike: Representing victory, movement, and motivation.
Hanley - Bloom: Symbolizing growth, patience, and flourishing in various life aspects.

Key Quote:
"I want to excel in all of my different identities. Mother, freelancer, homeowner, woman in her 30s. I want to be all of these things and not get too focused on only one."
— Danielle [18:08]

Happiness Hack: Gratitude Holiday

Gretchen introduces a unique gratitude practice called the "Gratitude Holiday." Unlike daily gratitude journals, this annual celebration focuses on commemorating significant milestones with intentional recognition and celebration.

Personal Story:
Gretchen shares the poignant story of her dog's recovery:
"I have just decided January 9, 2015, was the happiest day of my life. [...] I want to mark this day. So I buy an ice cream cake for Jamie. [...] My hope is that over time, everybody will just be like, oh, yeah, that's our family holiday."
— Gretchen Rubin [14:54]

Insight:
This practice fosters a deeper sense of gratitude by highlighting pivotal moments, thereby enhancing overall happiness and appreciation for life's journey.

Interactive Segment: Demerits and Gold Stars

In an engaging exchange, Gretchen and Elizabeth share their personal demerits and gold stars related to their one-word themes.

Elizabeth's Demerit:
"I have not gotten my kangaroo symbol yet. [...] I'm hoping that by saying this out loud to everybody, I will this week get my symbol."
— Elizabeth Craft [35:24]

Gretchen's Gold Star:
"I want to give a gold star to over-the-counter medication. [...] It's very easy to take it for granted."
— Gretchen Rubin [36:20]

Inspirational Listener Feedback

Listeners provided creative and heartfelt feedback on the hosts' chosen themes and symbols, suggesting music, art, and personal anecdotes to enrich the themes.

Examples:

Pam connects Elizabeth's bounce theme to Paul Simon's "Bouncing into Graceland."
Crystal suggests imagery from Tolkien's works to symbolize Gretchen's door theme.
Jess relates her theme plate to both healthy living and boundary-setting, illustrating the depth of listener engagement.

Conclusion

Gretchen and Elizabeth wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to share their experiences with the "Use It or Lose It" principle and their one-word themes. They also promote additional resources and upcoming content, fostering a community centered around continuous personal growth and happiness.

Key Takeaway:
Active engagement in the things we value—be it personal habits, community resources, or creative pursuits—ensures their longevity and enriches our lives. Embracing a one-word theme for the year can provide clarity and motivation, guiding us toward a happier and more fulfilling 2025.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

Gretchen Rubin [04:55]: "Use it or lose it, but in a slightly different sense than this often comes up."
Elizabeth Craft [05:34]: "We all need to go to stuff, right?"
Gretchen Rubin [06:01]: "If people don't use these things, then they'll just go away."
Elizabeth Craft [17:09]: "So happy January 9th."
Gretchen Rubin [19:14]: "My word is welcome primarily in the sense of not resisting what floats into my life."
Elizabeth Craft [21:48]: "Love that from the world of improv."

Final Thoughts

This episode of Happier serves as a motivational guide for listeners to actively engage with and support the various elements that bring joy and fulfillment to their lives. By embracing the "Use It or Lose It" philosophy and selecting meaningful one-word themes, Gretchen Rubin and Elizabeth Craft provide practical strategies for cultivating lasting happiness and personal growth in the new year.

For more episodes and resources, visit happiercast.com.

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[00:01]
Reshma Sajani
Hi, I'm Reshma Sajani, founder of Girls who Code. Look, I'd consider myself a pretty successful adult woman. I've written books, founded two successful nonprofits, and I'm raising two incredible kids. But here's the thing. I still wake up wondering, is this it? And if the best years are yet to come, when's that going to start? Join me on my so Called Midlife, my new podcast with Lemonada Media, where we're building a playbook for navigating midlife one episode at a time. Each week, I'll chat with extraordinary guests who've transformed their midlife crisis into opportunities for growth and newfound purpose. At some point, we all ask ourselves, is there more to life? I'm here to discover how to thrive in my second act, right alongside you. My so Called Midlife is out now, wherever you get your podcasts.
[01:01]
Ellie Kemper
Hi, I'm Ellie Kemper from the Office and Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. And this is my fantastically funny friend, Scott Eckert.
[01:07]
Gretchen Rubin
Hi, everyone.
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Ellie Kemper
We host a podcast called Born to Love. It's a show where we talk to the people we love about the things they love.
[01:15]
Scott Eckert
Each week we bring on a celebrity guest to discuss their secret passion.
[01:18]
Ellie Kemper
Did you know that my friend Jenna Fisher loves Keanu Reeves movies?
[01:23]
Scott Eckert
She does, she does.
[01:24]
Ellie Kemper
And how about Al Roker, Samantha Bee, Tony Hawk, Jane Lynch?
[01:28]
Scott Eckert
What do they love, Ellie?
[01:29]
Ellie Kemper
You have to listen to the show to find out. So check out Born to Love wherever you get your podcast from Lemonada Media.
[01:39]
Gretchen Rubin
Lemonada. Hello and welcome to Happier a part where we talk about how to make our lives happier. This week we'll talk about another reason to use it or lose it. And we share many intriguing examples of one word themes from listeners. I'm Gretchen Rubin, a writer, studies happiness, good habits, human nature, secrets of adulthood. I'm in New York City, and joining me today from Los Angeles is my sister, Elizabeth Craft. And Elizabeth, the door is swinging open as we bounce into this new year.
[02:17]
Elizabeth Craft
That's me, Elizabeth Craft, a TV writer and producer living in L. A. And yes, Gretch. I love the use of our one word themes for the year. Door and bounce.
[02:27]
Gretchen Rubin
Yes. So before we launch in, a few updates. If you're listening, on the day this lands, it is January 8th, and my new Habits for Happiness course is in full swing. I am thrilled to announce a new way to join. This is the 90 day habit kickstart. This is a new option that will allow you to try the course for three months at a discounted rate. You'll get access to the full course experience in a condensed format. You might want to consider this option if you prefer a concentrated burst of guidance and support to get you started or you want to test the waters before committing to the full year. Enrollment for this closes in mid January, so go to happiercast.com habitscourse if you want to join today.
[03:11]
Elizabeth Craft
Such a good idea.
[03:12]
Gretchen Rubin
Yeah. More good habits for everybody in 2025.
[03:16]
Elizabeth Craft
Okay Gretch, we also wanted to share this from Michelle. She says I wanted to share a five senses idea. The daughter of a good friend had major jaw surgery that left her with her jaw wired shut. I wanted to do something for her, so I made a goodie bag. I realized as I was looking for items, I tried to get items to address her four senses, no taste. I included play DOH and soft socks for touch, popcorn and pickle scented thinking putty scented lotion, a kaleidoscope and coloring book for sight. Once I realized I could do this, it helps the goody bag come together.
[03:53]
Gretchen Rubin
Well. I thought this was a great idea. If you know that some sense is knocked out for a person for a time, think about leaning into the other four senses. It gives you coherence and an idea for things that might be fun gifts. I thought that was a great five senses idea.
[04:06]
Elizabeth Craft
Yes.
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Gretchen Rubin
And then finally, Elizabeth, we have not done an Ask us anything in a long time. And Happier in Hollywood. You guys didn't ask us anything and I thought this is so much fun. Let's do one too.
[04:17]
Elizabeth Craft
Yes. Sarah and I try to do one every season on Happier in Hollywood.
[04:22]
Gretchen Rubin
Well, I don't know why it's just so fascinating to see what questions people ask.
[04:25]
Elizabeth Craft
Yes. So send in your questions. Ask us anything about happiness, good habits, our childhood in Kansas City, New York City, Los Angeles, what it's like to own a corgi. Whatever. Yeah, you want to know? Ask us anything.
[04:42]
Gretchen Rubin
Yeah, these are always super fun. So that'll be upcoming in episode five twenty. Well this week for our try this at home. It is the idea to use it or lose it, but in a slightly different sense then this often comes up.
[04:56]
Elizabeth Craft
Yes. So we have all heard this in the context of muscle that you have to use your legs. If you want to be able to use your legs, you have to do those bicep curls to keep the arm muscles going. And it is great advice.
[05:09]
Gretchen Rubin
Yes.
[05:10]
Elizabeth Craft
And we've also heard it for the brain.
[05:12]
Gretchen Rubin
Right. Making connections with other people, reading a lot, speaking another language, things that use the brain help the brain stay active. This reminds me of one of My Proverbs of the professions a dentist sent me. It's like only brush the teeth you want to keep. So it's sort of like in big things and small, if we want to use something, we have to keep using it or it can just wither away.
[05:35]
Elizabeth Craft
You and I were talking about how this also applies to just things in our life. So this came up, Gretch, when I was talking about in my 25 for 25 list that I want to go to seven events, two plus five events in person. So whether that be a podcast, taping, a stand up comic, a concert lecture, and you pointed out it's good that you're doing this because use it or lose it. We all need to go to stuff, right?
[06:01]
Gretchen Rubin
Like going to the movie theater. If we want there to be movie theaters to go to, we have to go to movie theaters. If we want there to be independent bookstores to go to, we have to shop at independent bookstores. Because if people don't use these things, then they'll just go away. And so I think there's a lot of things where we really like the idea that they're there and we might think, oh, yeah, I like to use that thing, but if you don't actually use it, well, then we can't expect it to stick around.
[06:28]
Elizabeth Craft
Yeah. And I think it's a good motivator. I'm thinking of a farmer's market, for instance. If you love that there's a farmer's market in your town, go to it. Right. So that it'll continue. And the thing is, it could actually get you to go when you wouldn't otherwise go. Especially I think maybe for obligers who feel obligated. Oh, I have to go to the farmers farmer's market so that it will be there.
[06:52]
Gretchen Rubin
Right. Well, let's say you're doing your read 25 and 25, and so you're picking your books. It's like, go to that independent bookstore and like you say, there's something about showing up in person. You might run into a book that was like a favorite from your childhood and now you want to reread it or something catches your eye. There's a different experience when we go in person and we have to use it. There's been a lot of discussion in the news lately about how drugstores are closing again. If you want there to be a drugstore there, you have to go to the drugstore. I live in New York City and a huge thing is plays and musicals and Elizabeth, when you were just in New York City, you guys went to a Broadway show and I thought, it's right in 2025, I want to go see more live theater because I want it to be there. I love the idea that I live in a city where there is live theater, but many cities have live theater. But it will only continue insofar as people continue to go.
[07:44]
Elizabeth Craft
Yeah. And that is really true. We see all around us how this actually comes to fruition. Right. That things do go away.
[07:51]
Gretchen Rubin
Music stores, remember music stor.
[07:54]
Elizabeth Craft
Yes, yes. And I love the idea of making it force me to get out there and do stuff. Then if I say, oh, there's a podcast I'd like to see recorded. Oh, do I really feel like driving to West Hollywood? Well, I should, because I want the live podcast tours to continue. It will help me actually follow through.
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Gretchen Rubin
Well, and another thing is when things are used, they seem more worthy of support. So say there's like a park. I was talking to our father about this in Kansas City when we were walking around. Like, there's been a lot of investment in the parks in Kansas City, and they look gorgeous and people are using them a lot. And when people use something, then everybody's like, well, it's worth supporting this thing in our city or our town or our neighborhood or whatever, because clearly many people are enjoying it. And so then these things also stay supported. And so again, it's just use it or lose it.
[08:46]
Elizabeth Craft
Yeah. And it's just great to get out and do stuff. I mean, I think, Gretchen, I am still coming out of the pandemic. That's what I have realized recently is I'm still, still in some of those old pandemic habits. So I'm hoping 2025, I'm going to break out and I'm going to use everything.
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Gretchen Rubin
So let us know if you do try this at home and how use it or lose it works for you. And what's the context in which you're doing it? We would love to know. Let us know on Instagram threads, TikTok, Facebook. Drop us an email@podcastretchenrubin.com or as always, you can go to the show notes happiercast.com516 Coming up, we've got a happiness.
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Elizabeth Craft
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Reshma Sajani
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Ellie Kemper
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Scott Eckert
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[13:59]
Elizabeth Craft
All right, Gretch, we're back with this week's happiness hack.
[14:03]
Gretchen Rubin
Okay, this comes from my own life. So one of the things that's striking about 2025 for me is that I have so many milestone anniversaries. This is just some of the milestone anniversaries that I have ident identified. It's the 10th anniversary of our podcast. Yay. It's the 30th anniversary of my clerkship year. It's the 20th anniversary of the first meeting of my children's literature reading group. It's Barnaby's 10th birthday, so that's a kind of anniversary. And the anniversary of the day that he came to live with us. It's the 20th anniversary of when I started high intensity weight training. I actually found my first Date, which is super fun. Elizabeth, you should do that too. Cause you know, we always say, give yourself these milestones. Give yourself these ta dahs. It's very satisfying. My first book, Power, Money, Fame, Sex, A User's Guide, came out in 2000. That's a book I don't talk about that much. But man, I loved writing that book.
[14:55]
Elizabeth Craft
I love that book.
[14:56]
Gretchen Rubin
But the most important anniversary is the milestone anniversary, the 10th anniversary of Jamie's cure, which was January 9, 2015. It was the happiest day of my life. He had Hepatitis C that he got from a blood transfusion during a heart surgery that he had when he was a little kid. I mean, he had hepatitis C. He'd had it for a long time. It was starting to really be a problem. And then science research came up with a cure. He went on it the day it was approved by the FDA, and then he was cured in 2015. So January 9th. So here's my hack. Nobody in my family pays particular attention to this, but I have just decided January 9, 2015, was the happiest day of my life. I'm gonna mark this day. So I buy an ice cream cake for Jamie. Cause that's his favorite thing from bioscan Robbins. Sometimes I invite his parents to come over. Cause they do live right around the corner from us. But at the very least, I take a picture, I send it to everybody. I say, today's January 9th. It's amazing. This friend of mine made us this amazing artwork around his last bottle of medication. Cause I said to her, this is the most precious thing in my life. And so she made me kind of a stand with a glass bell over it with a little bluebird on it. And so I take a picture of that because I feel like I want to recognize this. And my hope is that over time, everybody will just be like, oh, yeah, that's our family holiday. But it gives me tremendous joy. You know, we talk a lot about gratitude being an important thing for happiness. It's certainly important for a happy life. But I don't like a lot of gratitude practices like the Gratitude Journal. But this is a yearly way. I'm like, I never want to take this for granted. This was truly something that was hanging over our head the whole time I knew Jamie. It was getting worse and worse, frankly. And then it just went away. And I just never want to take that for granted. I wanna be thankful for it every day of my life. But certainly once a year, I wanna really celebrate it. And so if there's a day for you that's special, like the day you got your corgis. You could just pick a day, make it a family holiday. It just elevates everyday life, I think.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. And it also gives you a reason to look for great things happening because you're saying, oh, is this a day we wanna the day of getting your dog.
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Gretchen Rubin
Right. And the research is clear that having this element of gratitude really does make us happier because it reminds us of all we have to be thankful for. So this is a different way of bringing a gratitude practice into everyday life. So I highly recommend the Gratitude holiday.
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Elizabeth Craft
Well, happy January 9th.
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Gretchen Rubin
Thank you. I need to go to Baskin Robbins tomorrow. And so now Elizabeth. We wanted to share some excellent suggestions from listeners about the one word themes they're picking for this year. I picked door, you picked bounce. And we heard so many fascinating suggestions from listeners and it's so interesting to hear why they picked what they picked.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. Mary said, I have been racking my brain trying to figure out what my one word theme will be for the year coming up. I took a piece of paper and wrote one word each morning for the past few days. The words I wrote to reflect on were colorful, renew, emerge. And then I picked dragonflies.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that. Such a great way to capture honing in all those ideas in a concrete image. Danielle wrote, my word is hyphenate. I had my son last year and since then I've dived fully into being a stay at home mom. But I've also managed to keep up with the other parts of my life. I've transitioned my career as a publicist to being freelance. I've started to regain my social calendar and me and my husband recently bought our first home. So hyphenate felt perfect. Because I want to excel in all of my different identities. Mother, freelancer, homeowner, woman in her 30s. I want to be all of these things and not get too focused on only one. For example, our new house has a lot of repairs to be done, but I don't want every weekend of my life to be all about my house. Love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. Very fitting for a particular time in life. I love that.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yes.
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Elizabeth Craft
Peter said, my word is over. I want to get projects over the line. I'm an opener and have trouble finishing. I want to get over myself and not take myself so seriously and I want to jump over hurdles in my way.
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Gretchen Rubin
I love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
That's awesome.
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Gretchen Rubin
Mary Pat wrote, mine is welcome primarily in the sense of not resisting what floats into my life. I considered acceptance, but the mental image of welcome is vibrant and active acceptance feels passive and ho hum. So this is a great example of you really want to kind of wordsmith to get exactly the right vibe. It might have the same general meaning, but by choosing a slightly different word you might find one that has a lot more energy for you.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, Liz said On our traditional Christmas morning forest walk, I was reflecting on how after a few days of singing and merriment, my voice was barely functioning. I'm an early childhood music educator, the happiest job in the world, but possibly the most strenuous. I've been noticing lately that I don't have the energy and resilience that I once had and my theme popped into my head. Strengthen. This applies not only to taking care of my singing voice by practicing good vocal hygiene and warming up religiously, but also strengthening my body, my relationships, my connection with nature. Just being mindful of tending to the things that are important to me and.
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Gretchen Rubin
Not letting them slip away, Rebecca said. My one word theme will be groove. Primarily it refers to getting my groove back after over a year of unemployment. I start my job in January. It also evokes music and movement, both of which I would like to be part of my year. I want to exercise more and listen to music more and I will again be able to afford concerts. I missed a lot of those this past year. I really want 2025 to be a groovy year. Love all those meanings.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, Linda said. I had the feeling that I at times lost my sense of humor in the stress in business and routine of daily life life. I often took comments quite literally or negatively instead of perceiving it in the fun or playful spirit it was offered. I chose the phrase yes and as my theme for the year. I took this from comedians who do an improvisation show. Whenever one of your fellow comedians says something, you need to respond with yes and and that way continue into the world or situation they've imagined and also making it possible to add something from yourself. This has been truly amazing. I quickly got used to saying yes. Yes, that's true and and I ended up joking so much more along with that person. Maybe it should be noted that I'm a rebel and often my first inclination is to say no when someone says something. I could, however, imagine this being useful for other tendencies as well.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that from the world of improv.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes.
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Gretchen Rubin
Lammy says My one word theme is stretch. Stretching before exercising and running. Stretch myself with new things. I have been wanting to learn Greek for several years now, but 2025 will be the year. Beware of overstretching and spreading myself too thin, staying flexible and stretchy both literally and figuratively. Maybe do a stretch that is time for myself. If I start to lose control and help others more than I help myself, I'm sure I can find more definitions in the weeks to come. And that's where the surrealists come in. Because one of my representations will be the Persistence of Memory by Salvador Dali, one of my all time favorite paintings. And stretchy. In fact, he has a lot of stretchy figures and symbols in many of his paintings, so I think I can find something that suits me. I love that if you go look up the Persistence of Memory, you'll see what is meant by the stretchiness. That's a great visual representation of that idea.
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Elizabeth Craft
It is. It reminds me of when you had the wave painting as your yeah, exactly. Symbol Lori said. My word is undivided and it actually came to me when listening to another podcast. They stated the number one way to show love to someone is to give them undivided attention. In our current society we are very divided having multiple things going on at the same time.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that Sandy said. I came upon Unlock and will be using a key as my symbol. For me, Unlock signifies gaining access to new information or experiences, representing the act of acquiring knowledge while overcoming challenges or completing tasks. Interestingly, I used AI to help me understand the connection just by asking Google questions like are learning and unlocking connected? And if so, how? In a way, I was already unlocking my understanding of AI.
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Elizabeth Craft
Rebecca said, I was recently diagnosed with breast cancer, underwent a mastectomy and will start chemo treatments this week. As you can imagine, this has been very overwhelming. My one word theme for 2025 is present in Stay in the present. Don't worry about the future. This comes in handy when I feel myself spiraling down a rabbit hole of worry. I bring myself back to the present by repeating my word over and over to myself as a reminder to deal only with what is happening right now. It also helps to remind myself that every day is a gift or present and to enjoy each precious moment. I also want to be mindful about spreading kindness, et cetera, presence to others.
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Gretchen Rubin
Well, best wishes for good health in 2025. That's a hard thing to go through, but it sounds like you've got a one word theme that's really helping. That's wonderful. Heather writes, My one word theme is creativity. I have really been tapping back into my creativity lately and want to make sure I continue it and make it stronger in 2025. Listening to your podcast has really inspired me to start pursuing a different career that allows me to utilize my creativity and passion for drawing. Not sure exactly where that will go yet, but I went out and bought a bracelet with a color palette on it to make sure I keep this close to my heart and hope it leads me in a direction I am excited about, especially in regards to my job. Well that's a great word.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, Tonya said. My word is stride. Oh, I like that word. It has multiple meanings for me since I want to encourage more walking and movement, but also the idea of taking things in stride and reacting to things in a calm way and not allowing anything to cause myself to go off course. My word slash phrase for 2024 was finish line and it allowed me to reach many goals including writing a children's book. Gretch My word one year was step, but I love stride.
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Gretchen Rubin
Very forward moving. Yes Rhonda says in 2021, after working from home full time since 2019, I decided to sell my home and move to somewhere warmer and closer to the coast. Before I moved, I was very disciplined with my schedule and habits and thought everything would fall into place very quickly when I moved. Boy was I wrong. I moved during the busiest time of work and everything fell apart very quickly. I have struggled since to not only come up with a one word theme, but to stick to anything I did come up with. This past year of procrastinating on every single aspect of my life, I have said over and over that I should just do it. As I was putting on my Nikes to run errands, I thought my one word theme should be just do it. But since that isn't one word, I thought maybe my one word theme should be Nike. I decided I should look up if Nike had a meaning. I was surprised to find that Nike was the Greek goddess of victory and the Nike swoosh represents her wings and symbolizes speed, movement, power and motivation. I was even able to find a beautiful Nike goddess pendant to wear. My one word theme transformed from a logo into a beautiful goddess. This gives me hope that my year will transform into something beautiful. Well, I love how doing a little bit of research into idea that captures you, leads you in these really interesting, thought provoking, energizing directions. Love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. I love how this will also keep it up top of mind.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah, because there's Nike. You'll see that logo everywhere.
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Elizabeth Craft
Jess Said. I've chosen the word plate. This has some obvious goals attached to it, namely choosing more healthy options as well as making an effort to cook for myself more often. I also chose this word because I wanted to work on enforcing my boundaries as in tectonic plates and also I'm decreasing negative selft talk and overall viewing my life and the world as prettier as in gold plating or as I prefer rose gold plating.
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Gretchen Rubin
Okay, I think getting tectonic plates as setting boundaries from the one word theme of plate that is just next level in terms of seeing the layers of association. I love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
Love it.
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Gretchen Rubin
If anybody is a Philip Pullman fan, that really reminds me of the alethiometer and its level of association. Hanley wrote, I graduated from college this December and will be jumping into a new phase of life in 2025 with no school, a real job, getting engaged, moving, et cetera. And I needed a word to describe both my upcoming year and the goals I wish to build around it. After much deliberation, my word is bloom. I find that it captures this year as a process of becoming and symbolizes transition, growth and flourishing while emphasizing patience, nurturing and embracing my journey. My life will be full of instability, but bloom reminds me of to grow where I am planted. I will bloom in my life physically, spiritually, mentally, emotionally, in my relationships with family, friends and myself. I wish to be bold and outgoing, eat healthier and mostly enjoy the beauty of life no matter what is going on. Plus, as a huge lover of flowers, this is the perfect excuse to have constant flowers in my home to symbolize my word. Love it.
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Elizabeth Craft
Love it. And Gretchen, people also had so many suggestions for us regarding our words of bounce and door. So for bounce, Pam said Elizabeth's word immediately reminded me of a Paul Simon line. We're bouncing into Graceland. Made me smile all day. Love that.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that. Debbie said. After hearing Elizabeth's one word theme for 2025, I wanted to share the song More Bounce in California by Soul Kid Number one. It's not a new song, but it's a favorite of mine and seemed fun and fitting for Southern California based Elizabeth. That was so fun I wouldn't listen to it.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, so did I. That's gotta be my theme song for the year.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah.
[29:22]
Elizabeth Craft
Karen said the first thought that came to mind for Elizabeth's word was Tigger. Just food for thought.
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Gretchen Rubin
Love that.
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Elizabeth Craft
Which I heard from so many people about Tigger. That was actually my first thought as well, but it didn't resonate with me so that's why I went with kangaroo.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah, but there's no one bouncier than Tigger.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yeah.
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Gretchen Rubin
Irene said when I heard Elizabeth's word was bounce. I thought she should try physically bouncing on a mini trampoline or rebounder. I recently acquired one myself, and there are many health benefits. It's also a really fun form of exercise and doesn't take up much space. Check it out. Well, Elizabeth and Jack is such a huge trampoline fan. Like, you should tap into this.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. No, I love the idea of actually bouncing myself.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah. Yeah.
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Elizabeth Craft
And then, Gretch, many people pointed out that kangaroos don't go backward. Now, what I have learned is that technically kangaroos can go backward, but for a long time, people thought they couldn't. They. But I guess they don't. So I didn't even know that was part of my symbol, the forward movement. But I absolutely love it.
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Gretchen Rubin
Well, you're all about step into the future. And so, yes, bounce into the future. Bouncing forward like a kangaroo.
[30:32]
Elizabeth Craft
Yes.
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Gretchen Rubin
Now, as for me, many people suggested Magritte paintings. I had no idea. This was, like, completely unknown to me. Magritte, Renee Magritte has many beautiful pictures of very evocative doors kind of against the blue sky. So that was beautiful. Somebody sent me Edward Hopper's Rooms by the Sea. That's a beautiful door by the sea. Emma said, I was thinking about your door image, and it reminded me of the Portara Temple of Apollo in Naxos, Greece. It is so beautiful. I looked that up. There are all these beautiful, striking images. There are so many beautiful, striking images of doors.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yeah. And Janice said, I was intrigued by this Lego door while rummaging through random Lego pieces with my. My son. Then, days later, I heard your chosen word and knew I had to share it with you. This Lego door is just a building block to a larger structure. Hope this brings you inspiration as you think of an image for your word.
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Gretchen Rubin
Yeah. And Crystal said, if you're a Tolkien fan. And by the way, Crystal, I am a Tolkien fan. You might like the image of the doorway by the mines of Moria that says, speak, friend, and enter above it, which. That's a great image of a door. Or for a warmer feel, maybe the round door to a hobbit house in the Shire. I love that. That. I loved all these images. But several people suggested something to me as a symbol which had not occurred to me, which I do think I will use, which is a key. I want to find a really cool image of a key. I feel like that captures Dor in a way that I can.
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Elizabeth Craft
It's poetic.
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Gretchen Rubin
It's poetic. Yeah. But I love looking at all the images and with the wave. I had kind of a painting, so this time I wanted to switch it up a little bit, but that was cool.
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Elizabeth Craft
And then again on the music theme, Irene said, gretchen, when I heard you pick Dor for your theme, I wondered if you knew much about the group the Doors and Jim Morrison, who was a poet and lead vocalist. I know you enjoy reading about musicians even though you claim not to be that interested in music. I thought you might like learning more about the band and their music as part of your one word theme.
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Gretchen Rubin
So, Elizabeth, this is very interesting. Well, by the way, I love the Doors, so that's a great suggestion, but I don't remember ever before with our one word theme having a musical tie in. I know this is so interesting because people are suggesting songs and music for both of us and I don't think either of us ever have had that in the past. So this is like a whole new element to think about with the one word theme because we've talked about like you wanted to have layers of associations and you wanted it to be able to be visually encapsulated. But now it's like, well, what is the soundtrack of your theme? I think this is like a whole new level for us.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes, I love so Gretch, now we have this whole new thing to think about with our one word themes. And of course everybody else, we want to hear what your music is for your one word theme. But coming up, I have a one word theme related to merit. But first, this break.
[33:38]
Ellie Kemper
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Scott Eckert
What's up everybody?
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Elizabeth Craft
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Scott Eckert
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Elizabeth Craft
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Scott Eckert
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Elizabeth Craft
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Scott Eckert
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Elizabeth Craft
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Scott Eckert
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Elizabeth Craft
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Gretchen Rubin
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Reshma Sajani
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Gretchen Rubin
Okay, Elizabeth, it's time for demerits and gold stars. And this is an even numbered episode. And that means it's your turn to talk about a demerit. What is this one word theme? Demerit.
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Elizabeth Craft
Well, my demerit, Gretch, is I have not gotten my kangaroo symbol yet. So I have looked around, I have looked at different mugs, I have looked at little boxes that have kangaroos. I've looked at patches or whatnot, but I haven't selected one. And I need to do that. I don't want to let the year go by with me not having this physical manifestation. So I'm hoping that by saying this out loud to everybody, I will this week get my symbol.
[35:52]
Gretchen Rubin
Well, I don't have my key symbol yet. And the funny thing is I feel like just loose in my apartment. I have all these sort of intriguing keys to nothing. You know, like kind of decorative keys. But I'm like, where are they? It's the kind of thing when you're thinking, where am I going to put this thing away? It feels like you have a thousand of them. And then when you actually are looking for, you're like, where did I put that decorative key? So I want to find mine, too. I don't want to go out and buy one because I know I have one somewhere. But we want to get those visuals down before we get too far into the year.
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Elizabeth Craft
Gretchen, what is your gold star?
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Gretchen Rubin
I want to give a gold star to over the counter medication. I have had a cold. I got a really bad cold on Christmas Day and it has been lingering. It's one of these lingering colds. And. And I just think, wow, over the counter medication. I feel it when it's wearing off. I know in the space of like 20 minutes. Whoa. I need to take my medicine. You know, I think back on, like, the olden days when people didn't just have these things that we take for granted, even things like Neosporin and band aids and just all this stuff that we can go and get. And with these everyday minor aches and pains, it really makes such a huge difference. And again, it's very easy to take it for granted. So again, gratitude for something that I don't want to take for granted.
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Elizabeth Craft
Yes. Yay. Medication.
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Gretchen Rubin
And the resource for this week. So the Design youn Year Trifecta. We've been talking a lot about the one word theme. That's one element of the trifecta. If you want to learn more about the Design youn Year trifecta. So again, that's the one word theme. Read 25 and 25. So fun. And the 25 for 25 list, you know, it's just the beginning of January. You're never behind. You can jump in at any time. You can find tons of resources. And further reading to kick off your gear@happiercast.com designyouryear and now what are we reading? Elizabeth, what are you reading?
[37:41]
Elizabeth Craft
I am reading Selling Victoria's Secret and the Unraveling of an American Icon by Lauren Sherman and Chantal Fernandez.
[37:50]
Gretchen Rubin
I am rereading for the fourth time, one of which was I listened to it and I read it three times. It is short. It is amazing. The English Understand Wool by Helen DeWitt. Cannot recommend it enough.
[38:04]
Elizabeth Craft
I can't wait to read that, too.
[38:06]
Gretchen Rubin
Yeah, read 25 for 25. Make this one of them. And that's it for this episode of Happier. Remember to try this at home. Use it or lose it. Let us know if you tried it and if it worked for you.
[38:18]
Elizabeth Craft
Thank you to Chuck Reed and everyone at Lemonada.
[38:22]
Gretchen Rubin
Here's your rhyming reminder. If you like the show, tell others you know.
[38:25]
Elizabeth Craft
Until next week. I'm Elizabeth Craft.
[38:28]
Gretchen Rubin
And I'm Gretchen Rubin. Thanks for joining us. Onward and upward, Elizabeth, Are you looking for something like a keychain or a T shirt? What kind of thing are you looking?
[38:49]
Elizabeth Craft
I haven't really decided. Possibly a mug because you know, I love my mugs and then I know I'll use it, but it's gotta be the right mug. I only want a really nice mug that I know I'll savor.
[39:03]
Gretchen Rubin
You're a connoisseur.
[39:04]
Elizabeth Craft
I don't want to just get a plain old mug. So that's kind of what I'm on the hunt for.
[39:10]
Gretchen Rubin
Okay. Hi, everyone.
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Reshma Sajani
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Gretchen Rubin
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Gretchen Rubin
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Reshma Sajani
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Gretchen Rubin
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Gretchen Rubin
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Gretchen Rubin
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