Introducing: The Dylan Hour with Dylan Mulvaney

Summary

Podcast Summary: Add to Cart with Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak
Episode: Introducing: The Dylan Hour with Dylan Mulvaney
Release Date: March 25, 2025

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Introduction

In this inaugural episode of Add to Cart, hosts Kulap Vilaysack and SuChin Pak welcome a special guest, Dylan Mulvaney, to introduce her own segment, The Dylan Hour. This episode marks the beginning of an exciting collaboration where Dylan brings her unique perspective and vibrant personality to the forefront.

Guest Introduction: Dylan Mulvaney

Dylan Mulvaney, a well-known comedian, writer, and director, introduces herself as the host of her new podcast, The Dylan Hour. She describes her show as a "1960s style pink confection of a podcast," where she engages in candid and often humorous conversations with a diverse array of guests, including icons like Glennon Doyle and Margaret Cho.

Dylan Mulvaney [01:33]: "The Dylan Hour is a retro cocktail party where we sip and we spill with some of my favorite humans."

Celebrating Friendship and Birthdays

Dylan takes the opportunity to celebrate her friendship with Joe Lock, a talented actor known for his roles in Heartstopper, Agatha, and Sweeney Todd. She humorously acknowledges missing his 21st birthday and compensates by dedicating the episode to him. The celebration includes sharing cocktails and reminiscing about their time together.

Dylan Mulvaney [06:09]: "We're going to play the first episode featuring Joe Lock Baby."

Bitter and Sweet of Our Week

One of the episode's highlighted segments is "Bitter and Sweet of Our Week," where Dylan and Joe share the highs and lows of their recent experiences.

Joe Lock [08:57]: "My sweet has been sitting on your deck in Dylan's garden in the sun."

Dylan Mulvaney [09:04]: "I've been having the busiest week of my life."

They discuss the contrast between Dylan's hectic schedule and Joe's more relaxed week, emphasizing the comfort they find in each other's company despite their differing circumstances.

Chats About Career and Personal Growth

The conversation delves into Joe Lock's acting career, particularly his role in Heartstopper. He shares insights about balancing his acting commitments with academic responsibilities and his transition from the Isle of Man to London.

Joe Lock [30:43]: "I got a place, I got grades. I got quite good grades considering my attendance for the last year at school was, like, 13."

Dylan and Joe also explore the challenges and triumphs of navigating the acting industry, including the impact of social media on their personal and professional lives.

Joe Lock [15:35]: "I have a controversial relationship with Percy pigs. I love Marks and Spencer with my whole heart."

What a Girl Wants: Birthday Wishes

In the segment "What a Girl Wants," Dylan asks Joe about his desires and aspirations. Joe expresses his wish for a lavish holiday to a Greek island, highlighting his longing for relaxation and memorable experiences.

Joe Lock [37:33]: "I want us to go to a Greek island."

Dylan reciprocates by sharing her hopes for their friendship to flourish further, including living in the same city and creating cherished traditions together.

Dylan Mulvaney [38:48]: "I would like us to live in the same city for an extended period of time doing either the same show or two really good shows."

Lightning Round: Rapid-Fire Questions

Towards the end of the episode, Dylan introduces a lightning round where she and Joe answer rapid-fire questions to reveal more about their personalities and preferences.

Dylan Mulvaney [44:37]: "Okay, Joe. Dream day in London."

This segment provides listeners with quick, engaging insights into the hosts' and guest's favorite activities, celebrity crushes, and personal anecdotes.

Last Call Confessions: Listener Interaction

The episode concludes with "Last Call Confessions," where Dylan and Joe respond to a listener's query about building self-confidence.

Dylan Mulvaney [54:27]: "Can you tell? All right, well, I love you all. Happy birthday if it's your birthday."

They offer heartfelt advice, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and self-acceptance in gaining confidence.

Conclusion

As the first episode wraps up, Dylan and Joe reflect on their unique friendship and the organic flow of their conversations. They invite listeners to subscribe to The Dylan Hour for more engaging content and tease future episodes filled with laughter, vulnerability, and meaningful discussions.

Dylan Mulvaney [57:10]: "Can you tell? All right, well, I love you all. Happy birthday if it's your birthday."

Notable Quotes:

• Dylan Mulvaney [01:33]: "The Dylan Hour is a retro cocktail party where we sip and we spill with some of my favorite humans."
• Joe Lock [08:57]: "My sweet has been sitting on your deck in Dylan's garden in the sun."
• Joe Lock [15:35]: "I have a controversial relationship with Percy pigs. I love Marks and Spencer with my whole heart."
• Dylan Mulvaney [37:33]: "I want us to go to a Greek island."
• Dylan Mulvaney [44:37]: "Okay, Joe. Dream day in London."

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This summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting the dynamic between Dylan Mulvaney and Joe Lock, their shared experiences, and the engaging segments that make The Dylan Hour a must-listen.

Transcript

[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Sarah]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Sarah]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

Lemonade hi there, it's your girl Dylan Mulvaney and you are invited to join my weekly cocktail party, the Dylan Hour. It is my brand new podcast from Lemonada Media and your weekly cup of tea with all my favorite girls, gays and they. The Dylan Hour is a 1960s style pink confection of a podcast. We'll be talking to icons like Glennon Doyle, Margaret Cho and so many more. So put your worries aside, grab yourself a drink and get ready to sip while we spill all the scalding hot tea. We're going to play the first episode featuring Joe Lock Baby. After a listen. Search for the Dylan Hour wherever you get your podcasts or check us out on YouTube and watch every episode. You can also find a link in the show notes to take you there. Enjoy. Love ya in your car, in the shower, on a walk through the Dylan Hour. Feeling sweet Feeling sour.

[Beth]

I feel nothing.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

The Dylan Hour. My couch is open. It's better than therapy. All you soccer moms, all you theys and thems, all you bottom boys, my bisexual femmes, come one and all disassociate with me. It's free, grab a drink or two or three. You have no friends.

[Sarah]

All good.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You got me. It's the Dealing Hour. Love ya. Is this a good time? Oh, I sure hope it is, because today, a podcast is born. This is my first episode of the brand new show, the Dylan Hour. Hosted by me. It's Dylan Mulvaney, baby. The Dylan Hour is a retro cocktail party where we sip and we spill with some of my favorite humans. And we've got plenty of fun segments for you. We have a lot of oversharing to do, and I'm excited to be doing that now with other humans and not just alone in my bedroom. Um, but I'm gonna be doing it with my guests and with you. And this podcast has been in the works for almost three years. And some of you might know me from, like, my Days of Girlhood series online, where I, like, documented my transition. But even at the beginning of my time on social media, I was, like, often having my content used against me by, like, really horrendous straight white men podcasters. And I remember thinking, like, we need a way to combat this hatred. And I was like, well, I'm just gonna have to start a podcast of my own. And thus, the Dylan Hour is now happening. It's here. And I think the world is just a really scary place right now. And I think finding joy is not only important, but it's absolutely necessary to get us through. And while I think we can get vulnerable on here, I really want this to be a fun place for me and my guests to just escape and be silly and be stupid. And so we have that to look forward to. I have lots of fantastic friends that I'm gonna be having on here. Actors, writers, drag queens. You know, with the heavy emphasis on the girls, the gays, and the theys. I think y'all are about to see just how ADHD I really am by my hosting style, which can only be described as rapid, unfiltered, and potentially hard to follow. No, I. I just really want to emphasize that these are conversations between two friends. And another reason that I wanted to do this is because I've had so many iconic conversations behind closed doors with some of these folks, and I want to share that with you. But that also means that sometimes I will be interjecting my own stories or answering my own questions. So if you are exclusively here for the guests or a Dylan Mulvaney hater in general, you might not love this format. I do think some of you will be surprised at how raunchy I am. I do occasionally like to indulge in a casual cocktail or two, but hopefully it's only going to bring us closer. I want to theme today's episode around birthday celebrations. Because in a way, a baby being born is technically. It's like zero birthday. Right. Literal birth date. So it's my podcast birthday. I've always taken birthdays a little too seriously, and they often fall short. But I think a birthday is less about what you do and more about who you're with. So I wanted to have on my best friend, who I always have a surefire good time with. My guest is 21. I regrettably missed his 21st birthday, which I wanted to take him to Vegas. It didn't happen. I, um. So I thought we could use today's episode to celebrate him finally being able to drink legally in America. But he hails from one of my favorite countries and also the place where my favorite candy is produced, Percy Pigs. Okay. But specifically the fizzy kinds. I am so excited to toast and celebrate my dear friend, talented actor in Broadway sensation. You'll know him from Heartstopper, Agatha, Sweeney Todd. It's Joe Lock.

[Joe Lock]

Hi.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Hi, Joe.

[Joe Lock]

Hi.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

How are you?

[Joe Lock]

You know what? I've had a really good day. I've been following Dylan around all day today.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You were my driver.

[Joe Lock]

I drove to Santa Monica and back.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But have you ever driven in America?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, I drove. I was in Atlanta for six months and I drove every day there. And I feel like if anyone knows anything about Atlanta and the driving, once you drive there, you can sort of drive anywhere.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, LA's no small feature.

[Joe Lock]

LA is just traffic.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then we drove to the beach. I was on a podcast. You walked around?

[Joe Lock]

A walk around town? Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my. You've been kind of.

[Joe Lock]

I also, I feel like I, like. Whilst you were coming to pick me up, I'm pretty sure I got propositioned. I think someone thought I was, like, working the street corner.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And did you. Did you say yes?

[Joe Lock]

Well, you literally turned the corner and.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I was like, ah, damn. There's no time, no time. Could have been quick. How do you feel about birthdays?

[Joe Lock]

You know, I'm not a birthday person.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Were you mad at me for missing your birthday?

[Joe Lock]

No, because I don't care about my birthday.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God. It's the Only thing I care about my life is birthdays.

[Joe Lock]

I know.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And also accelerating my other friends. So I made a podcast three years ago, before we were friends, so. Because I knew that I was going to maybe miss your birthday in the future, so I wanted this to be for you.

[Joe Lock]

Wow. This is all for me?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's all for you. And to celebrate you, we have a little. You've got a cocktail next to you. You know what? We're calling this one for you, honey.

[Joe Lock]

What?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Twink Juice.

[Joe Lock]

Twink Juice.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Cheers. It's an espresso martini.

[Joe Lock]

I want some cream on mine.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You want a little cream on yours? Okay, don't spill. I didn't know. I didn't want to assume you're. Oh, you're. You're a slightly classier person than I am. You want to spray it? Yeah. You seem to be a little bit more put together than I am. I also will say I'm a little older than you. Yeah, give it a spray. You never done this before? Well, normally they have like a. Oh, that's nice.

[Joe Lock]

A special, anyway.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

A what? A special. What you want?

[Joe Lock]

I'm actually lactose intolerant, but no.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, well, it's gonna. I was gonna say this Twink juice is gonna get us through to a very long night because it's. You want more? Oh, shit. That's nice. We've had a. Here, give me that.

[Joe Lock]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Thank you. Okay, let's do first sips. Cheers.

[Joe Lock]

Cheers.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Mm. Oh, that's good. We've had a. We've had a few espresso martinis, but mostly in London.

[Joe Lock]

Mostly in London.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

This is your. Like, our. Well, I guess we spent, like, a day together in LA with Agatha, but we did. Talk to me about bitter and sweet of your week.

[Joe Lock]

Ooh. Oh, gosh. You. You literally told me to think about this, and I didn't even.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I know. Last night.

[Joe Lock]

My high and low. You know what, my sweet?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

This is good. No, that's what they do on podcasts, especially on the first episode, they say what the segments are.

[Joe Lock]

Oh, yeah. That's.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

The first segment of the Dylan Hour with Joe Lock is bitter and sweet of our week. It's our high and low. Our Rosenthorne, if you will. I love to find the positive, but I'm not scared to go to the negative. Give it to us, Joe.

[Joe Lock]

My sweet has been sitting on your deck in Dylan's garden in the sun.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Joe Lock]

Whilst Dylan has been having the busiest week of her life. And I have been just. There's something. There's nothing more relaxing than Being relaxed around someone else's chaos.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Are you serious?

[Joe Lock]

Like, I have had the most nice week because normally I'm the one with the chaos. So to be sat reading a book.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And drinking my phone, meanwhile in the sun, I'm like crying to a publicist saying that I can't do another interview. But in my mind, I'm like, I've got to take Joe to the Hollywood sign and then we've got to do a double decker tour bus.

[Joe Lock]

I'm having the best day of my.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Life, so you're giving me full permission that I don't have to take you.

[Joe Lock]

Please don't hate tourist stuff.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, wow.

[Joe Lock]

I love feeling like I'm a local when I visit someone.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think we really got that in the traffic on the freeway today.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, I really felt like a local.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And your bidder of the week.

[Joe Lock]

My bitter, bitter of the week. The lingering cold I still have.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Mmm.

[Joe Lock]

It's way better than it was.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You sound way better.

[Joe Lock]

I sounded like I chain smoked. I quite liked it. I think there was something about, like, my internalized homophobia that quite enjoyed the masculinity of it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Baby, lock them doors and turn them. You know what that song is?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, I know that song.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. That's also the theme of our friendship, is mostly just me asking, do you know what this is? Or do they have this in the uk, Maybe lock them doors and turn them. Do they have country music in the uk?

[Joe Lock]

It exists, yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. But not like the biggest. Not the biggest thing.

[Joe Lock]

No. No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Maybe the pivot of my career is to just become a country singer in.

[Joe Lock]

London because the country music industry is really booming.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They need me.

[Joe Lock]

They love. They love progressive.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm the Kim Petras of country. But in the uk, watch out, baby. I would say my suite of the week has been. You've hosted me so much in London, I now get to host you. Would you say that, like, what have been the key differences between staying when I'm staying with you and then now you staying with me?

[Joe Lock]

Ooh. I don't. I think we're very similar hosts.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Really?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Mindful, but not the. My suitcase explodes when it's at your house.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, My suitcase has exploded within that suitcase. Have you noticed that? Like, it stayed within the suitcase, but it hasn't exploded?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No, I walked in there today and I thought, mm, that's nice. Mine, not so much.

[Joe Lock]

No. You came to visit me once and I, like, carried Dylan's huge two pink suitcases up the stairs. And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna make Myself a coffee. I'll like, you settle in. I like, literally maybe was out of the room for maybe three or four minutes. I walked back in. It's like a bomb had gone off.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I know, that's a talent.

[Joe Lock]

I was like, how do. I don't understand how there's not physically been enough time that's gone past.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

One of the few things I'm actually very good at is fucking up a room wildly quickly. But it does feel nice because since I've messed up your guest room so often, it's been nice to let you mess up mine a bit.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah. Dylan has the comfiest bed in the world.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I've never slept in that one.

[Joe Lock]

It's so.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think it's a hundred dollar mattress. I swear to God.

[Joe Lock]

Well, whatever it is, it's.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You're the new face, baby. I think my. So that's my sweet, my bitter kind of funny. You didn't bring me any Percy's.

[Joe Lock]

No, I didn't.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What's up? What was going through your mind?

[Joe Lock]

You know, I also realized I've forgotten to do. I forgot to ask Rosie.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, she's already on the plane.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God, you're kidding.

[Joe Lock]

I can try.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's okay. You know what, actually, this is a public service announcement. This is a good opportunity I'm gonna take. Another reason why I'm starting this podcast is, is so that the people watching in the UK can just start sending me Percy pigs, Specifically the fizzy tails, which I'd like to have one of right now. Did you. You never. You didn't hook me on these. What was your relationship to Percy pigs before you left me?

[Joe Lock]

I have a controversial relationship with Percy pigs. I. This is really not like. Peter, I'm gonna be happy. Percy pigs used to have actual gelatin in.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Joe Lock]

And there used to be. They used to taste different. And then they made all of them veggie, which I understand and I get, but like, the flavor of them changed when they changed it into a veggie one as well.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You liked veggie one or.

[Joe Lock]

No, no. So before, like, we're talking five, 10 years ago, before they made all of them vegetarian, they all had gelatin in. So they had pig in a Percy pig.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Uh.

[Joe Lock]

Oh, no. Yeah, not cool. But they tasted really good.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But I didn't know what that was.

[Joe Lock]

No, you've never experienced that taste.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So now you can get.

[Joe Lock]

You can get like the original veggie, which is what the. Like, they made a vegetarian version before. They made them all vegetarian, but they still kept the vegetarian version. When they changed the recipe for all of them, the flavor of that is what it used to be. It's complicated, so I have a really complicated history with it. I love Marks and Spencer with my whole heart.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So good.

[Joe Lock]

It's the best shop in the world, other than Trader Joe's.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Did you work there?

[Joe Lock]

No. No, I didn't, but all my friends did, and I feel like I was the only one who didn't.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Never say never.

[Joe Lock]

You know the island man.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's not too late.

[Joe Lock]

Marks and Spencer is actually one of the busiest in the uk. You wouldn't think it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Mmm. Wait, the Isle of Man. That's where you're from?

[Joe Lock]

That's where I'm from.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's where it all started.

[Joe Lock]

That's where it all started.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And you did theater there.

[Joe Lock]

Did theater there.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then you booked a little show.

[Joe Lock]

Just a little one, yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then we met. And that's when your life really started.

[Joe Lock]

I remember the day we met.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Tell us.

[Joe Lock]

Me and Dylan had followed each other on Instagram for a few months. And then you were in London and you were like, oh, let's, like, meet up and grab coffee or. And then we ended up spending, like, seven hours in SoHo House just talking drunk. We, like, really drunk. But within, we, like, both had, like, meetings. We just cancelled because we just canceled.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well. And I didn't know that many people in London, but you were one of those people. Also, I will say that your presence online, especially at that point, was still quite mysterious. And so I was like, what's his deal? I was like, I want to know more about this person. And it felt like fast friends. Now, what was your relationship to social media before Heartstopper? Were you, like, an active poster?

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Ever?

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Snapchat.

[Joe Lock]

I use Snapchat. But, like, in the same way, like, every teenager does.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Joe Lock]

I wasn't loaded. Misappended, loaded.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then you never.

[Joe Lock]

I.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You were never.

[Joe Lock]

Before Heartstopper, I had, like, normal amounts of, like, 800 Instagram followers. And then I think when the show got announced, like, over the year of me being announced and the show coming out, I gained, like, a hundred thousand. And then I went from like, a hundred thousand on the day of release to three and a half million two days later.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Casual?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Normal.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, Just normal.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. Very healthy.

[Joe Lock]

And then since then, it's like every time something gets released, I will gain followers. But now, like, on average, I will lose, like, 20,000 followers a day.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

For what?

[Joe Lock]

I don't know.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

This is wrong.

[Joe Lock]

I used to get really upset about It. I've sort of come at peace with the fact that, like. But, like, that's 20,000 people a day who are actively. You know, when you unfollow someone, you have to press unfollow, think. I say, are you sure? And then all these people are saying, oh, we are sure. We don't want this guy in our life anymore. Right. And that used to really, like, genuinely get to me. Whereas now I just find it quite funny.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, also, I feel like it happens when, like, you post something. You know, it's like, yeah. You remind someone that they're following you, and they're like, oh, fuck, I don't want to follow this person. And so it then makes you be like, wait, maybe I shouldn't post so that I keep the people. Yeah, no, you gotta post people. You gotta find the right people.

[Joe Lock]

Post, baby, post, Post, baby, post.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then I've gone to visit you. That trip, though, was day 1000. I woke up to a Percy Pig cake from you.

[Joe Lock]

I've been cuddling that Percy pig. I bought Dylan a big Percy Pig for her. Day 1000. I've been cuddling it every night.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, it's. That was a lot of room that it took up in my suitcase. And I'm really grateful still. But you would not do the one thing that I wanted that day.

[Joe Lock]

One thing about Dylan that I love the most is that when she wants to do something, she will do it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm gonna go.

[Joe Lock]

Like, if you don't want to go, she's not gonna judge you for that. But she's still gonna do it. And ever since we met, you've been talking about the Jacuzzi boat. Jacuzzi boat in Canary Wharf picture. If anyone doesn't know Canary Wharf picture, like, businessmen in suits. Dirty water that, like, doesn't really drain anywhere because it's in the wharf rather than the actual river and December businessman in suits.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's my boyfriend.

[Joe Lock]

Six degrees Celsius.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Mmm.

[Joe Lock]

Hot. Cold.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's cold.

[Joe Lock]

That's really cold.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's a nice contrast.

[Joe Lock]

It's like a 45 degree Fahrenheit day.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And you're in a hot, hot pool of water that has an engine in it.

[Joe Lock]

And it's awful.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But did you feel like you kind of wanted to go?

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Did you feel jealous after seeing all my pictures?

[Joe Lock]

Absolutely not.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So I. Then I didn't feel bad at all.

[Joe Lock]

You had to make me feel bad. You didn't try to make me feel bad. I think you were hoping that I would feel bad and therefore would Go with you. There was, even though it was your day, 1,000, all of that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It was, well, today's your birthday, seven months late, so I'll do whatever you want today. If you wanted to get in a Jacuzzi boat, I'd probably go, but that's.

[Joe Lock]

Because that's what you want to do.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, now the hold up.

[Joe Lock]

If I wanted to go and get a nice big salad with loads of vegetables.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my. I'm out.

[Joe Lock]

There you go.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You know, I'll sit with you. You know what? I would have gone and watched you. Could have been with all the businessmen with the suits. But I found a girl's girl, Kira, my makeup artist. And she's like, darling, I'll be right there. I give. The thing about me too is like, I sometimes give people like 20 minutes notice for like a 40 minute drive. I'm like, can you meet me across town to go to this thing? She's like, dawn, I'll be right there. And so we go on this boat. We had a. Oh, God. We had to, like, put down the. There was a big pipe with smoke that we'd have to put down with the. What are those things called where you go under a bridge? There we go. So. Oh, they got a lot of bridges over there in London. I saw that. So I put those down and it was a great day.

[Joe Lock]

It was raining.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. Well, in my mind, it was a great day.

[Joe Lock]

Oh, it was a great day.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It was amazing. And something else that's kind of happened now that feels. Two of my favorite things really are Jacuzzis. And I also like a psychic.

[Joe Lock]

Are we gonna tell the story?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think we have to.

[Joe Lock]

We have to tell the story.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So we're having a really sweet dinner the other night. It'd been a long day. We go. We were at a restaurant that felt oddly kind of like the Twilight movie where Bella and Edward go to Italian food for the first time together. And we walk out and we're gonna be walking back to my house, and we see an open sign that's on a light. What's next to the open sign?

[Joe Lock]

It's a psychic.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's a psychic. There's a psychic on me.

[Joe Lock]

A psychic. And then it said, if I can't save you, no one can.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So I. For those of you that don't know, I love a psychic. I regularly go once a year to, like, kind of like Kardashian level psychic. But this one was. This was also at 9:30pm yeah. So we call and then we hear her talking through the Window. And she's like, what time do you want to come? And we're like, now? And she's like, great. Come on. So we then knock on her door. She opens up in her bathrobe. I'm also nervous because, like, I was actually nervous to bring this one up. I'm scared that she's going to see this and I'm going to get hexed. Do you feel that? For me, you're fine.

[Joe Lock]

Well, I haven't told them what she said to you yet. That's.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, fuck. Okay, here we go. Wait. One sip. Oh, my God. I gotta put my drink down for this. So we're in the psychic. I go first, and Joe goes and sits with the husband on the couch in the living room.

[Joe Lock]

We have a really nice conversation about wallpaper paste for half an hour.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

For half an hour.

[Joe Lock]

Genuinely.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Now, I paid for the $60 palm reading, which I assumed would take five minutes. Went on a little longer because she looks at me. She, like, reads my palm. She goes, oh, you're single? And I was like, yeah. And she goes, this is very early on in this. In the session, mind you. She goes, it's. You're single because you have a demon that comes and has sex with you every night, and that's why you're so tired when you wake up. And that demon is getting in the way of any relationship that you could have outside of you and that demon, that sex demon. And in that moment, I'm, like, looking at her mind, you have 27 minutes left of the conversation with her. And I'm like, this. Mm. And she kept going, look at me. Look at me. Cause I would look down to text my. All I could text Joe was, no, don't. I got two words that I needed to make sure that he didn't go after me. And she's like, do you have, you know, do you have bruises on. On your. Your parts downstairs? And I was like, no. And she was like, well, it's coming. She was like, that's what you. Like that's what you should expect to happen be from this demon. And she goes, the demon has been following the women of my family for many years, and that this goes back to, like, my great grandmother, and if I pay a certain fee, she can get the demon removed. What we're a little nervous about is that her grandchildren do follow me.

[Joe Lock]

So, yeah, I was talking to the husband, and he was like, oh, all these famous people live around here. And then there's this famous TikTok girl. And I was like, oh, really couldn't be me.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No. And so what we're a little nervous about is that I did not pay the fee. I did tip her an extra 20 on top of the palm reading just to be like, you know what?

[Joe Lock]

Maybe she's right.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What?

[Joe Lock]

Maybe you do have a sex demon.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, I woke up really tired this morning.

[Joe Lock]

That's cause you didn't sleep though.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well.

[Joe Lock]

Or.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But what if that. What if, what if. But here's the thing. I at least would want to know, like if it's happening to me, I would want to be a part of that. And then Toby, our friend Toby, like I had like shared something to our close friends and I like, was talking about what had happened with the sex demon. And he was like, oh, this sounds. You're like Lily Depp in Nosferatu. And I was like, oh, do I look like her? Or is it like, like, is it because I look like Lily Rose Depp? He was like, no, it's because you're getting fucked in the night by Adina. So I'm a little nervous about that. Would you want a sex demon? Be honest.

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Why not?

[Joe Lock]

I don't. I don't want to have sex with a demon.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, fair.

[Joe Lock]

I don't know.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'll take whatever.

[Joe Lock]

I want to have unconsensual sex with a demon every day.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, I want to. I want to know if I'm going.

[Joe Lock]

To have sex with a demon. I want to be. That's a choice I've made.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Thank you. Okay.

[Joe Lock]

I feel like the choice we have made.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, we've made some choices.

[Joe Lock]

We've made some choices.

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[Joe Lock]

It's the Dealing Hour.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Now tell us. So you start. You were an actor on the Isle of Man. You did a lot of musicals. What was your favorite musical you ever did on the island?

[Joe Lock]

Check the musical.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That was your first one?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, I almost did it twice, but then I got hot still the second time, so I had to drop out.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Wait, what character was the. What did you.

[Joe Lock]

I played the Farquad's dad. He comes right at the end and he goes. I suppose my invitation got lost in the mail.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I've never heard of Farquad's dad as a character in Train.

[Joe Lock]

You know, he has that song.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You're really good, babe.

[Joe Lock]

I was like 11.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

The talent level in the Isle of Man, really high, really crazy.

[Joe Lock]

I think Samantha Box, she's from the Isle of Man.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Shut up.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, it's me and her, I mean.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Breaking through, but everybody else is like a star that's waiting to be discovered.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, but it's just hard to. I got very lucky.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What did you want to be?

[Joe Lock]

I wanted to be an actor. I didn't think it would happen, so I thought I'd become.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm like, what did you want to be? In Shrek.

[Joe Lock]

Oh, in Shrek. Oh, I wanted to be Shrek. I still do.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I want to be ginger.

[Joe Lock]

I still. You could be a great ginger.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, I'd love it. But you want to. You still want to play Shrek?

[Joe Lock]

I think Shrek the Musical is one of the best written musicals of all musicals. Wow. The music is so good.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It is.

[Joe Lock]

And I will. I will. Oh, I love On Die on my hill.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I know it's today.

[Joe Lock]

Gorgeous song, all of them.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And so what was the second time you were supposed to do it?

[Joe Lock]

I supposed to do Peter Pan the second time.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Wow. We got. We're moving up in the world, aren't we? But you got Heartstopper instead.

[Joe Lock]

I got Heartstopper and then I left.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's like, shrek, Heartstopper, Star.

[Joe Lock]

I remember being like. To the director, being like, I'm really sorry. Like, I just gotta. And he was like, no, I get it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And he was like, well, you should be doing Trek.

[Joe Lock]

Well, that was. Yeah, they got it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

How did. How did your life shift? Did you have time to prepare for Heartstart? Funny story. I've never asked you about this period of time in your life, and I've only watched some of the episodes, which are very good.

[Joe Lock]

Thanks.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But I don't know this.

[Joe Lock]

I got asked up. It was during COVID Okay. I had to fly to London for the audition. Had to come back to the Isle of Man and isolate on my own in my house for two weeks, like, with just me and my dog. My mom had to move out and then I got the part. I couldn't tell and couldn't, like, celebrate anyone. I like, FaceTime my mum to tell her because. And then I. Two weeks after that, I got on a plane back to London and started filming.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It was in London you were filming? Did you know any of the cast before that?

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So you did season one, you moved to London, then?

[Joe Lock]

I went home, finished my high school exams.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, that needed to happen.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Do you finish high school also? Do they call it something different?

[Joe Lock]

Sick form. So you do like, your GCSEs, which is like. You're like, everyone has to do them. And then you go back and do your A levels.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Sick form.

[Joe Lock]

Sixth. Like sixth. Like the number six.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Six, but like sixth.

[Joe Lock]

Because it's your sixth. Sixth year, I guess.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Form.

[Joe Lock]

Form, yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And. Okay.

[Joe Lock]

I don't know where it comes from.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then most people go to university.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, uni. But I didn't. I got a place, I got grades. I could. I got quite good grades considering my attendance for the last year at school was, like, 13. Because I would go to school in the day, fly to London in the evening, go to an event, do a press thing, spend the night in London, then get the 5am flight back to the Isle of Man, do a day of school. I was doing that every day for, like, two months and I still got Abbas.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What is a B? B?

[Joe Lock]

Like a A B and a B. Oh, great. I know. I was really quite proud of myself.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I love it. Now, you had a second season, Heartstopper. How did that differ? You felt a little more comfortable.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, I mean, I finished school at that point, so I could.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You could.

[Joe Lock]

And then I went straight onto Agatha.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And how did that happen?

[Joe Lock]

A lot of auditions. Like nine. Zoom Fusion. Then they flew me out here.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, this scares me. Do you know this reference? Zoom, zoom, zoom make my heart go boom, boom, boom My supernova girl.

[Joe Lock]

I do, but I don't.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, God, it's Xenon Z3. Yeah.

[Joe Lock]

I don't have clothes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Xenon the sequel. No, Xenon Girl of the Century. And that is where the age difference comes to play.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So you're doing Agatha in Atlanta, where you drove a car.

[Joe Lock]

Atlanta, Georgia, where I drove a car.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm also curious, do you. You have a license?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, no, I just have been driving your car all Day without a license.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But you said before you took the keys, you said, is this legal?

[Joe Lock]

Because in the UK you can't just drive someone else's car, can you?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

In America?

[Joe Lock]

I Googled it. You can.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, good.

[Joe Lock]

Well, it's fine. I've done it now, so.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. We were great. If I was. I feel like in the UK you.

[Joe Lock]

Need to have a certain type of insurance to drive someone else's car.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I felt like you're. Like, you had a permit, and I was in your driving instructor, and I signed off.

[Joe Lock]

There was a few times she was, like, trying to work and was, like, checking that I was, like, moving lane correctly.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It was great. I mean, it was like I was two people at once.

[Joe Lock]

Was that good?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But you were really good.

[Joe Lock]

I'm a good driver.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You're really put together.

[Joe Lock]

Thank you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But. So you're in Agatha. Did you ever drive Patti LuPone?

[Joe Lock]

I don't think I have. I think I would remember if I drove by lepon.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think. I think that it would be really intimidating to pick out a song to put on.

[Joe Lock]

I think she's driven me on a golf cart before, but that's about it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She was in charge of the golf cart.

[Joe Lock]

She was staying in this weird part of Atlanta that everyone drove around in golf carts, and she. Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God. How. What was working with her? Like, were you intimidated at first.

[Joe Lock]

I remember I found out, for the sake of no one not watching on video, Dylan just dropped a purse on your dress.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

There's just that one, too. You want to get that for me? Thank you, babe.

[Joe Lock]

When I found out she was in the show, I remember, like, I was in Sarah Finn, the casting director, who's such an incredible woman, and she was like, oh, you'll never guess who's playing Lilia. And then told me, and I, like, gay gasped and fell to the floor. Genuinely did.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Did you know, though, deep down, that you were gonna be best friends?

[Joe Lock]

Oh, as soon as I, like, as soon as I knew I was gonna meet her, I was like, I will be best friends with this woman.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's my girl.

[Joe Lock]

But, like, I was. I can't underestimate how much of a Patti LuPone superfan I always was my whole life.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So you were deep in already.

[Joe Lock]

Oh, yeah. I know. I could have told you that. That's also resume from the day that she started acting.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I.

[Joe Lock]

All the way back to Juilliard.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You still are very. You're much cooler than me in many ways, but, you know, a lot of Broadway. Mm.

[Joe Lock]

I think people really don't like, when I did Sweeney, I think people thought, oh, that's just this. Like the Netflix kid did. I was like, no, baby, no, baby, no.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

This was not like a plug and play celeb.

[Joe Lock]

Like, I know my. I know my shit. You know, I know which theaters. Which show was that?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Revival costumes regularly.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Wait, what was. Did you ever go travel to New York to see Broadway shows before?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, I went to New York first time. Which New York was like the month before Heartstopper came out? Actually, my mom used to take me to London to watch shows. First Broadway show I ever saw. I can't tell you. We can't talk about it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay, fair.

[Joe Lock]

We can.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What is it?

[Joe Lock]

Oh, you have to. Well, the first Broadway show I ever saw was Harry Potter and the Cursed Child.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And you know what? It's a good. It's a good play.

[Joe Lock]

And you know what? I remember going and I remember taking a picture of. In the bathrooms in that theater, they have a sign that says, like, we support your choice to use any whichever bathroom you want. I mean, like, this is the kind of like, cunt way of being.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Like, this is how we support. We support trans people.

[Joe Lock]

And then I went to watch Six after that, so.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, and that's a very inclusive show.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, we love Six. But I've watched so many Broadway shows now. I feel very lucky.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And you've been in one.

[Joe Lock]

Been in one.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Sweeney Todd.

[Joe Lock]

Sweeney Todd.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What was that like?

[Joe Lock]

Amazing. They could just sing to Sutton Foster every night.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Were you friends with her?

[Joe Lock]

She's amazing. She's so cool.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She's lovely.

[Joe Lock]

Like. Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then you had. You already sang that song, like, in an audition or anything for.

[Joe Lock]

First time I think I ever sang that song was for Alex Lacamore.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, God, that's intimidating.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, like 10am on a Saturday morning.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We have to remember that, like, people don't always know who that is. Like.

[Joe Lock]

Which is crazy because.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Because that's all. That's all that matters to us. What is his claim to fame?

[Joe Lock]

I mean, he's done everything.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I know.

[Joe Lock]

Hamilton, Dervin, Hanson, Wells.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Did you. But I really feel like I want to bring Broadway to the mainstream through the show.

[Joe Lock]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And that brings us to our next segment, what a girl wants. Every week I'm going to be asking our guests, what does a girl want? But in this case, what does a gay want? What does Joe Lock want? Jo, what is something that you are desiring? Whether that's a Dyson airwrap. World peace. Anything in between. What are you looking for, Jo? Hmm?

[Joe Lock]

No. What Am I looking for?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, what do you want? Be honest. It's not something you need. What do you want? What do you want?

[Joe Lock]

I want. There's so many ways I could go about. There's so many things I want.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, what do you want?

[Joe Lock]

Obviously, like, world peace and, like, all of that stuff, but, like, yeah, sure, whatever.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's your birthday wish, babe.

[Joe Lock]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

This is all for you. It's your birthday, seven months late. You get whatever you want. Oh, honey.

[Joe Lock]

Oh, my cake.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Better? Oh, my God. We got you cake, it looks like. Oh, you know what? This is from What? Erewhon Is it? Yeah, this is probably $9,000 for this slice.

[Joe Lock]

Wow.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Joe Lock]

Probably tastes like shit.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, that's also.

[Joe Lock]

I got an Erewho, right? This is my Erewhon. Go in yesterday, I got what I thought was a chicken plate with two sides, and it arrived and there was no chicken. And the sides were gross. And my coconut cloud smoothie was also gross. And you know how much it cost me? $110. Well.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And my Hailey Bieber Smoot was very good.

[Joe Lock]

I should have got the Hailey B, but I thought I'd try something different. But you know what? Stick to what you know.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What's your birthday wish, Joe?

[Joe Lock]

My birthday wish?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. But you have to say it out loud because it's a podcast.

[Joe Lock]

Okay. So it can't be like, my birthday wish is that this year, I want us to go on a really nice, lavish holiday.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, I love holidays.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Tell. Okay. Where is it gonna be? Okay.

[Joe Lock]

Do I blow?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, you can blow on it. Oh, good.

[Joe Lock]

I want us to go to a Greek island.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Take a bite. Mm. Greece. Mamma mia. Mmm.

[Joe Lock]

Mmm. I have my breakfast in. It's probably not a good idea, but. What? What?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You have your retainer in my Invisalign.

[Joe Lock]

Wow. It's cutting the bottom of my mouth. I think. This one's not shaped right, so I've got a massive cut.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I have a crazy cold sore. It's fine when I eat those hot chips. Oh, I got you on those, didn't I?

[Joe Lock]

Mm.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

The hot chips.

[Joe Lock]

Hot chips are. The Trader Joe's are the best things in the world.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You gone into a Trader Joe's or.

[Joe Lock]

You just let me? Many times. I was in the other day. How many flowers in Trader Joe's?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, you did? Saw you buy me flowers. This is kind of coconutty.

[Joe Lock]

It is.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think I like it. Oh, coconut donuts. Now I'm thinking about church.

[Joe Lock]

Explain that now.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's what I said. I said at the beginning of the episode I said the ADHD is a little crazy. I used to go to church and the one thing to look forward to was coconut donuts. Right, right.

[Joe Lock]

Still don't see the correlation.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I want to go to a Greek island with you. But do you want to know what my wish is? Are you going to ask me?

[Joe Lock]

What's your wish?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Thank you. So my. What a girl wants is. I would like us to live in the same city.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

For an extended period of time doing either the same show or two really good shows. Because one of us can't be in a bad musical and the other being in a bad. That's not fair. And then I want Wes to find the cutest restaurant that we go to every single night. And we have like the back booth. And then each night we have kind of a rotation of whether it's like hot, you know, dates or, you know, maybe like a special Patti LuPone kind of guest star situation. Just kind of. We always bring new people in after the shows.

[Joe Lock]

I like that. We should do that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think so.

[Joe Lock]

Let's make it happen.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. What? Let's talk. Speaking on bringing maybe a double date situation. What's your type and what's my type?

[Joe Lock]

I think we should describe each other's types. Okay, but be nice.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think your type is a little older, maybe a little taller, A little buffer.

[Joe Lock]

I like a man.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You like a man. What do I like? Joe?

[Joe Lock]

You like a man too.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We often.

[Joe Lock]

There's quite similar.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

There's some cross pollination happening in here.

[Joe Lock]

Not like.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No.

[Joe Lock]

Have we. No, no, not yet.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Never say never. I. I think maybe like the distinct difference between our types is like. Oh, I think I know what I like that you don't. Well, I like like a man with a really skinny.

[Joe Lock]

I'm gonna say a winner.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I like a man with a wedding ring.

[Joe Lock]

Oh, my God.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's what we need, a controversial no. I like like a man that has really long, slender fingers that journals in the morning and kind of looks gaunt.

[Joe Lock]

I don't like that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Kind of sunken.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah. You don't want like a tortured kind.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Of like a drummer.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You don't like that?

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay, see, that's. That's.

[Beth]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. Are you ready for our overshare? Don't care. Lightning round.

[Joe Lock]

Great. Go on.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You know I like to overshare.

[Joe Lock]

Really?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You think?

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You don't as much.

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But I have not shared these questions with you or your publicists.

[Joe Lock]

Great.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And we're gonna have a countdown timer going and you're gonna answer these as fast as possible. Are you ready?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Sarah]

Are you ready?

[Joe Lock]

I'm ready.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Woo. Okay, Joe. Dream day in London.

[Joe Lock]

Dream day in London. Wake up, get out of the house by 9:30. Go for brunch somewhere. Yes. And be for a nice walk. Has to be sunny. Yes. And then maybe see a matinee.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Joe Lock]

And then go for dinner and then go for drinks and then go to bed by midnight.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Celebrity crush.

[Joe Lock]

Henry Cavill.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Casual or dressy?

[Joe Lock]

Casual.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Who would win in a fight? Sweeney Todd or the Scarlet Witch?

[Joe Lock]

Scarlet Witch. It's not even a competition.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Magical power you wish you had.

[Joe Lock]

Telekinesis.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Heartstopper. Actor who's most like their character?

[Joe Lock]

None of us.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Agathe. The actor who's most like their character?

[Joe Lock]

All of them.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh. Favorite book.

[Joe Lock]

Ooh. A thousand Splendid Suns. Four In Memoriam.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Favorite song that brings you joy.

[Joe Lock]

Where you lead. Carol King.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Favorite clip of Patti LuPone circulating on TikTok.

[Joe Lock]

There's so many good ones. I actually love the one of her and Aubrey doing hot ones and she throws the wing at the camera and she's talking about Madonna.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Broadway or West End?

[Joe Lock]

Broadway.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Joe Lock]

There's just like. You know what it is? There's a culture to Broadway that like, I just think is really addictive. Like the West End has. But there's just nothing. There's just no. There's no comparison to Broadway. I don't know. These are very different things.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We're gonna unpack what we just learned.

[Joe Lock]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I feel like West End is just more. Maybe the grass is always greener.

[Joe Lock]

I think that's what it is.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But have you done West End yet?

[Joe Lock]

I did Donmar, which is like sort of West End, but sort of not. But I'd love to do a West End show.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. Could be happening. And Agatha. Actor. Who's most like their character? You said all of them.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, in like ways.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. What is your way that you're like, teen.

[Joe Lock]

I have murdered my friends.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What's the actual character's name?

[Joe Lock]

Billy.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Billy. Okay, you.

[Joe Lock]

Which is also my middle name, actually.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Really?

[Joe Lock]

My middle name's William. Joe Joseph William Lock.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Do you know what my middle name is?

[Joe Lock]

I do. No, I don't. James.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God. That's crazy. Oh, where would your. You said a bar in London where, like, where is a cute place to go after?

[Joe Lock]

I'm not telling the world that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's fair. You'll tell me after.

[Joe Lock]

I'll tell you after.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Maybe you've taken me there.

[Joe Lock]

I've taken you to many.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay, tonight, let's tell the world we are going to an event.

[Joe Lock]

I'm bringing.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We've gone to some events already this week.

[Joe Lock]

We've gone to some. I. We went to Paris Hilton's birthday party the weekend, and I don't know if everyone can see this, but my knee is so up.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's, like, green and brown. It hasn't even hit the, like, bruise spot yet. It's just like. It's a giant.

[Joe Lock]

When we dive in the ball pit.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I made you dive in the ball pit. I mean, there was. It was a. It kind of did feel like AI in the way that if you had typed in Paris Hilton's birthday party, that would have popped up as far as the collection of people in that room.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And I had a good time.

[Joe Lock]

I had a great time, but.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And that felt like that was like your first LA day. Technically.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah. And you took me to Paris Hilton's house.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It was. It was a good place to take.

[Joe Lock]

You, but tonight we are.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We're going to a Vanity Fair party.

[Joe Lock]

We are.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And who are you wearing?

[Joe Lock]

I'm wearing Celine. Head to toe.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm changing into something slightly sluttier because this is. It's a good party to, like, potentially kiss someone. I saw some hotties last. You haven't been there yet.

[Joe Lock]

No, I haven't. Wow.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You got something to look forward to. How is the. How do you usually approach a party as far as working the room?

[Joe Lock]

I'm not very good at it. I like. That's something that I want to get better at.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Tonight's the night.

[Joe Lock]

Tonight's the night.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

How do I approach a room?

[Joe Lock]

You. I don't like. I think the room approaches you. Like.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And if they don't, I will find the room.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I kind of feel like I can tell if somebody's kind of walking the other way and I find them.

[Joe Lock]

I don't know how you do it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I don't let him go how do you feel about dancing in public?

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, come on.

[Joe Lock]

No, but the difference is you can dance. I can't dance, so I look like a twat. And you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No, I've kind of seen you also. Is twat as bad of a word over there as it is here?

[Joe Lock]

I mean, yeah, but, like, you also, like, twat isn't a thing. Stop saying twat. Say twat.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Twat, twat. Oh, we haven't taken you yet to, like, any of the gay bars in West Hollywood.

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We need to do that eventually. You're going to the Academy Awards.

[Joe Lock]

I am.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's exciting.

[Joe Lock]

Exciting.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We're going to Disneyland with Chris Colton.

[Joe Lock]

We are. I'm so excited for that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm so excited. The Oscars are great, but I think that might be the highlight. And that was also because we were trying to figure out if we could go, and then I was like, would it be okay if I texted this guy Chris Colfer and Joe was okay with it?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I loved Glee. Did you love Glee?

[Joe Lock]

I was like a late to Glee. It was sort of, like, sort of before my time.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God.

[Joe Lock]

But, like, just. But like, just before my time.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, that's so painful. I was watching in real time. Did you, like, binge after the fact?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Wow, that's crazy.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Who do you. Who did you feel the most connected to on that show?

[Joe Lock]

Sort of. None of them. It's a very American show. That's fair in a way that, like, if any of them were in a British school, they would have all just been bullied so much, they would never have wanted to be in the Glee Club in the first place.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So true.

[Joe Lock]

Which is not good. That's not, like. That's not a positive.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No. And anything else that you want to accomplish while you're in America?

[Joe Lock]

Um, I'd love to get a job.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. Like, tomorrow, like, this week?

[Joe Lock]

Like, yeah, that would be nice. It won't happen, but, like, that would.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Be nice that actually it could happen.

[Joe Lock]

We never know.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You never know. It's the city of dreams.

[Joe Lock]

City of dreams.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Did you watch La La Land?

[Joe Lock]

No, I didn't. I've still never watched it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What do you want me to watch that? I haven't seen the Goonies. I never saw that. That's bad.

[Joe Lock]

That, like, I think genuinely has driven away to our friendship.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

If there was anything, it's this podcast and the Goonies.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

How about. Oh, okay. So we're going to this tonight. You're going back to London. I might eventually come stay with you.

[Joe Lock]

Please.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Very Soon I'm coming to the west end and. And then Greece. What? Greece island should we go to?

[Joe Lock]

I love Santorini. It's my favorite place in the world.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Where have you been? How many times?

[Joe Lock]

I've only been once, but I loved it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Is that where Mamma Mia. Set?

[Joe Lock]

No, I don't think so. But they're all the same. They all give us the same.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Do you wear Speedo or. A little.

[Joe Lock]

I'm not a speedo guy.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Why?

[Joe Lock]

Well, I'm trying to get my ass bigger this year, so maybe this year is the year that I wore a Speedo.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Do squats?

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Do you go to workout classes like Barry's?

[Joe Lock]

I've started doing personal training.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Mmm.

[Joe Lock]

I know, it's really fun.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What's the personal trainer's deal?

[Joe Lock]

His name's Tom. He's really great. Straight or gay? He's a queen.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, we. You know what it is? I have always been so scared of the gym because I've always felt like I would be judged in that space. And it's the first time I, like, have been enjoying it. And, yeah, it's been fun.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then. So as you're getting your ass a little fatter and your muscles a little stronger, what is your hope to mature into roles in the industry? What do you want those to be?

[Joe Lock]

I want to play a really macho straight man in an action film.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Mmm. Like James Bond?

[Joe Lock]

No, not James Bond.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh.

[Joe Lock]

I got caught at.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Absolutely not.

[Joe Lock]

I got caught at saying I wanted to play James Bond by someone. An unnamed.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Report.

[Joe Lock]

And it really annoyed me because I was like, you put those words in my mouth. I never said that. You said, would you like to play games with us? And I said, whatever, sure.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Like, I didn't say that like that.

[Joe Lock]

And they kept me like Joe Logs. I was like, no, I didn't say that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So you want to be playing like, you want Jet ski fire behind you? Just.

[Joe Lock]

I want, like, yeah, God forbid. No Speedos. Well, hey, my dream would be to get paid a shit ton of money and still get really ripped.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, like they pay for you to get ripped. Oh.

[Joe Lock]

Because I just can't be bothered to organize at all.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I want to get paid to lay in bed.

[Joe Lock]

I don't want that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You don't. You aren't really. You don't love a bed as much as I do.

[Joe Lock]

I don't. Like, I can't. Like, in the. I know you're the first person, but I can't sit still.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You're the first person to ever use my living room. I don't. I've never sat on my couch. My life. I'm sitting. This is the first time I ever sat on couch. Put me to bed.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah. I walked in last night, I went for dinner and I came home and I walked in and I was like, dylan, where are you? And Dylan is buck naked in bed, tits out. Tits out. Hair. And she's like, to the ceiling.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Always. Can never get the hair out. It's all the fake hair. Yeah. I think that you've gotten a bit of a peer into what my life really is here.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And now I think we have a very special segment. We've got Last Call Confessions. We're going to be hearing a call from one of our lovely followers of the pod, and we're going to give a little advice. Are you ready?

[Joe Lock]

I'm ready.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Hello, honey.

[Joe Lock]

Hi, Dylan.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I was just wondering, like, how do.

[Joe Lock]

I feel confident about myself? Like, if I want to do something and, like, go out there and, like, feel confidence?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Like, how do you do that?

[Joe Lock]

Because overall, I don't feel confident on myself anymore. I'm trying to, but just not working out.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And I just wanted, like, advice from you, if that's okay. Thank you so much.

[Joe Lock]

Bye.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Bye. Oh, I love our new friend.

[Joe Lock]

I know. Do we get their name?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I don't think they shared their name, but that's good. Sir. Our new friend.

[Joe Lock]

Our new friend.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Confidence. You said we were talking about confidence yesterday.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah. In bed.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What did we say?

[Joe Lock]

I was talking about how I. I can't remember any.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm scared. I don't remember anything, which is good because I can't remember all the horrible things that happened to me. But then we have a good conversation, like, confidence, and I can't remember that. Well, Refresh.

[Joe Lock]

Dory.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Nemo. Wait, Marvin. Is that what their names are?

[Joe Lock]

Marvin.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Marlon. Okay. Give us the confidence, girlfriend.

[Joe Lock]

I was saying last night about how I want to be able to, like, go up and talk to people if we're out and have the confidence to. I am so scared sometimes of looking like a twat and making, like, a fool of myself that I don't put myself in those situations that, like, good things can come from friendships and whatever. Whereas you are very good at that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What did I say to do?

[Joe Lock]

I don't remember.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, same. So I think. But to our friend. Let's start fresh.

[Joe Lock]

So I'm saying I. Oh, this is so.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's actually. You're the caller.

[Joe Lock]

I'm the caller.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You put on. You did have slightly different voice yesterday while sitting. So maybe that Was you. I think that I've always kind of erred on the side of, like, cringe is kind of iconic. So, like, if you're ever trying to be cool, I think that that's not a great way to meet people because you're not showing up as your authentic self. I think that. Well, like, when I think about you, you're such a lovely, funny human that everybody needs to know, if they don't already. And I bet this person's the same way. I bet that our friend is, like, the loveliest. And also just. I'm so grateful for your call, but I think that better to, like, put yourself out there and try, and then, I mean, you might see someone's true colors. If. If you are to try to be friends with someone and they don't want to be, then they don't deserve you. But a lot of the times, it usually works out.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

In our case, it did.

[Joe Lock]

It did.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think, honestly, a really good outfit is, like, kind of surfaces that might sound. When I feel cute, I feel like I can take on anything. And a lot of the times, like, I can almost, like, convince myself that I feel a lot more confident than I am if I look presentable and, like, it's like, my armor, in a way. Everyone, I've had the best time with my dear friend Jo Jo, do you have anything else to add?

[Joe Lock]

I have to add that. No, I have nothing to add.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. Would you ever host a podcast?

[Joe Lock]

I would if I. But I don't think I'd have a career if I did.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think give it some time. Maybe it'll always. It will happen.

[Joe Lock]

I used to have a career. And you. You put a podcast.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, for. This is the first episode, so only time will tell, Right? And if you've enjoyed this episode, please go check out us on YouTube. Anywhere you subscribe to podcasts. I was gonna say, Joe, where can they find you? But they probably already have.

[Joe Lock]

Find me wherever you want me.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Do you want to be found?

[Joe Lock]

Loaded question there, Dylan.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think most people would want you to be on social media more.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah, I think that's probably why I'm not.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Have you ever done, like, a talking to the camera video?

[Joe Lock]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Why not?

[Joe Lock]

It's just not for me, is it?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No. But maybe that's why we work.

[Joe Lock]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But when I do it, are you, like.

[Joe Lock]

No. Cause you're so good at it. I would be so bad at it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Joe Lock]

I think, you know, like, I enjoy, like, the mystery of me. I think people think they know me really well, but actually don't know me at all.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Maybe on my birthday there's gonna be the Joe Hour and it's gonna be where you're talking to the camera.

[Joe Lock]

Uh huh.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I don't share anything at all. You just, you take it. That's December 29th. But then we do seven months after, like right now.

[Joe Lock]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Does that make sense? No, not really.

[Joe Lock]

But we can.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Most of this didn't.

[Joe Lock]

Most of our friendship doesn't make sense.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No.

[Joe Lock]

Me and Dylan will often talk in like incomplete sentences.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Can you tell? All right, well, I love you all. Happy birthday if it's your birthday. And if not, it could still be seven months later. And. Okay, we love ya.

[Joe Lock]

Love ya. Bye.

[Beth]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Beth]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's lemonadapremium.com the Dylan Hour is a.

[Beth]

Production of La Monada Media. Our supervising producer is Jess Kryncic. Producers are Carmen Laurent, Keegan Zema and Aria Bracci. Audio and video production and engineering by Jordan Lynn, Ivan Koraev and Brian Castillo.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Our SVP of weekly programming is Steve Nelson. Our theme song was composed by Daniel.

[Beth]

Mertzluft and arranged by Aaron Kaufman. Special thanks to Megan Strickland, executive producers Stephanie Whitman, Jessica Cordova, Kramer, Katherine Law and Dylan Mulvaney.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Beth]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Beth]

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