Jenny Yang’s Rest is Resistance. You Step Up.

Summary

Podcast Title: Add to Cart with Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak
Episode: Jenny Yang’s Rest is Resistance. You Step Up.
Release Date: May 20, 2025
Hosts: Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak
Guest: Jenny Yang

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Introduction and Welcome (02:00 - 05:00)

In this episode of Add to Cart, hosts Kulap Vilaysack and SuChin Pak warmly welcome special guest Jenny Yang. The conversation begins with heartfelt acknowledgments of Asian American Pacific Islander Native Hawaiian Heritage Month, celebrating the rich diversity within the community.

Kulap Vilaysack (02:00):
"Welcome to another episode of Add to Cart. It's the podcast where we discuss what we buy and buy into you and what it says about who we are."

Life Updates and Personal Growth (05:00 - 10:00)

Jenny shares significant updates about her life, focusing on her journey of creating her own work and navigating the uncertainties of Hollywood. She touches upon the challenges freelancers face and the volatility within the entertainment industry.

Jenny Yang (05:20):
"Oh, goodness. Just, you know, out here, making my own work, making my own downtown. My way downtown."

Susie Park (07:14):
"Seeing them squirm. And paddle under the water rapidly while trying to still keep their sweaters cool. It's kind of been fun."

Launching Her Podcast: "What Should We Talk About" (08:56 - 11:10)

Jenny excitedly introduces her new podcast, “What Should We Talk About,” which aims to process current events and personal experiences through candid conversations. She discusses the format, including guest appearances and listener-submitted topics.

Jenny Yang (08:56):
"It's called what should we talk about with Jenny Yang? And I have one to two guests every week and we all suggest topics and then I curate the agenda."

The Importance of Self-Care and Rest (11:10 - 27:40)

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around self-care, rest, and the concept of "Rest is Resistance." Jenny emphasizes the necessity of rest in today’s fast-paced world, especially for those who are constantly overachieving.

Jenny Yang (27:01):
"Rest is resistance. Especially for people who've been doing too much already."

Jenny Yang (27:04):
"Rest is resistance can be taken too far. All I can control is my life and what I can, my sphere of influence."

The hosts delve into personal anecdotes about managing stress, the role of technology in self-care, and the societal pressures to always be productive. Jenny candidly expresses her struggles with overachievement and the steps she's taking to prioritize rest.

Susie Park (10:14):
"But for me, doing this podcast, besides the billions of dollars I've made from it is the processing for someone like me who doesn't like to process."

Activism and DEI Backlash (40:44 - 45:35)

The conversation shifts to the backlash against Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Jenny articulates her frustration with the performative aspects of DEI and the corporate reluctance to genuinely embrace diversity.

Jenny Yang (40:44):
"Anti DEI backlash. It is so annoying... How do you reject us when you barely wanted us?"

Jenny Yang (44:46):
"We cannot pray at the altar of representation only... how we're treated isn't just by putting our faces in a commercial."

She critiques the superficial implementation of DEI, highlighting how corporations like Target exploited diversity for profit without fostering genuine inclusivity.

Susie Park (43:42):
"That's what is so wild."

Building Community and Sustainable Practices (45:35 - 47:36)

Jenny emphasizes the importance of grassroots activism and building sustainable, community-driven initiatives to create meaningful change. She advocates for reducing reliance on large corporations and fostering self-sufficiency through practices like bartering and supporting local businesses.

Jenny Yang (46:34):
"For the longest time I never went to like a Ralph's or a Vons... we grew up going to the Latino Supermarket or the 99 Ranch or like the Vietnamese small grocery store."

Promotion of Jenny's Podcast and Closing Remarks (47:36 - 49:31)

As the episode nears its end, Jenny promotes her podcast, inviting listeners to subscribe and engage with her content on various platforms. The hosts express their support and appreciation for Jenny's candidness and commitment to creating impactful conversations.

Kulap Vilaysack (48:31):
"Jenny, thank you again for returning. You're the best. You're the absolute best."

Jenny Yang (47:36):
"You can follow me on Instagram or on TikTok at JennyYangTV, go to jennyyang.substack.com and that will be where you will be able to watch video of my podcast or listen to it."

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Notable Quotes

• Jenny Yang (27:01):
  "Rest is resistance. Especially for people who've been doing too much already."

• Jenny Yang (40:44):
  "Anti DEI backlash. It is so annoying... How do you reject us when you barely wanted us?"

• Jenny Yang (46:34):
  "We grew up going to the Latino Supermarket or the 99 Ranch or like the Vietnamese small grocery store."

• Jenny Yang (47:36):
  "You can follow me on Instagram or on TikTok at JennyYangTV, go to jennyyang.substack.com and that will be where you will be able to watch video of my podcast or listen to it."

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Conclusion

In this episode, Add to Cart offers a deep dive into Jenny Yang's personal and professional journey, highlighting themes of self-care, activism, and the critique of performative diversity. Through honest and revealing conversations, the hosts and their guest explore the complexities of balancing personal growth with societal expectations, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own "carts" of investments and values.

Transcript

[Ku]

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[Tegan Gerard]

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[Ku]

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[Jenny Yang]

Lemonada.

[Susie Park]

Also with that Fire Boy.

[Jenny Yang]

Bling bling. You forgot your bling bling. Wait.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Welcome to another episode of Add to Cart. It's the podcast where we discuss what we buy and buy into you and what it says about who we are. I am your auntie, the gray haired one, Kulap Vilay Sak.

[Susie Park]

And I'm your other auntie, the mushy one, Susie Park. Yeah, mushy. My face is mushy. My butt's mushy. Carters, we are wrapping up our Take a big Breath Asian American Pacific Islander Native Hawaiian Heritage Month programming with a returning champion. A goddess.

[Tegan Gerard]

Yes.

[Susie Park]

Hostess with the mostess.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Absolutely. She is a stand up comedian, actor, TV writer who is named one of Variety's top 10 comics to watch and has been featured at Just for Last festival in Montreal, the San Francisco Sketch Festival and Netflix is a joke festival. She is a former labor organizer who was born in Taiwan and raised in Los Angeles and stars opposite. Excuse me, Michelle Yeoh.

[Ku]

That's right.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Oscar winner Michelle Yeoh as an assassin in the Netflix action comedy drama series the Brother's Son. Her new weekly podcast, what should we Talk About? Is available right now on Substack. Please add to Cart.

[Jenny Yang]

Jenny. Yay. Thank you. I live for an auntie coup build up.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

You deserve it.

[Susie Park]

It's the industry standard that nobody can meet. I've done a handful of intros on this show and at first I tried to do it like her and I was like, well, that is a fail. But like, it's so good that I get so nervous I just end up tripping over all of my words. And it's the worst intro. So you go from the best intro to the worst. And I say that is the offering of add to cart and AAPI Heritage Month.

[Jenny Yang]

The self deprecation is very AAPI Heritage Month. So.

[Susie Park]

No, that's fact. That's reporting live on the ground from the hurricane.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

But anyway, Jennie, welcome back.

[Jenny Yang]

Hi. I am so honored to be here to celebrate. Asian American, Pacific Islander, Native Hawaiian, Bhutanese, Laotian, Vietnamese, Sri Lankan, Burmese, Mongolian, Taiwanese, Italian, Filipino. Nope, not Italian. Wrong. Mess that up anyway.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

But if you're biracial, you know that's right.

[Susie Park]

And in 2020. We don't know what this month will be. We just know what it is now.

[Jenny Yang]

Let's just savor it for what we have this year. Yes, that's right. It might not be here for long.

[Susie Park]

Three Asian women with microphones. Do you think that they allow this in 2020? Let me not. Let me not speak it into existence.

[Jenny Yang]

You think they're policing our wombs?

[Susie Park]

That's ridiculous right now. That's ridiculous. Could never, could never revoke citizenships. No. Not in this country. You guys.

[Ku]

Sorry.

[Jenny Yang]

We could keep going.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

We could keep going.

[Susie Park]

Jenny, what has been going on in your life? Just fill us in really quick before we get into our cards.

[Jenny Yang]

Oh, goodness. Just, you know, out here, making my own work, making my own downtown. My way downtown.

[Susie Park]

What does that mean?

[Jenny Yang]

I messed up the quote.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Making my way downtown, walking.

[Susie Park]

What is that from? I know that it's in the core of my brain.

[Jenny Yang]

It's Michelle Branch. It's in white girls. Don't worry about it.

[Susie Park]

Michelle Branch? Are you kidding me?

[Jenny Yang]

I am so embarrassed. But correction. Making my way downtown is a lyric from Vanessa Carlton, not Michelle Branch. And what millennial worth their weight will mess that up? I don't know. So apologies to Vanessa Carlton. This is all I'm doing. I'm Trying to make my way downtown. I'm trying to create my own work because Hollywood is unreliable.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Turns out.

[Jenny Yang]

I don't know if you've figured this out, but everyone who works in Hollywood is a freelancer except for executives who work for corporate America.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

And. And they're also scared. They're all scared for their lives.

[Susie Park]

I have to say, the only silver lining in some of this is to see the highest of the highest managerial.

[Ku]

Because there's still a level above that.

[Susie Park]

That'S doing better than ever. But that level that never has had to do what we've been doing our entire lives.

[Jenny Yang]

Seeing them squirm.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah, that's true.

[Susie Park]

And paddle under the water rapidly while trying to still keep their sweaters cool. It's kind of been fun.

[Jenny Yang]

I mean, wow. I love that such. And wow, the claws are coming out. I feel like for people who don't work, entertainment, the way I put it, is like the sign of the times for us is that the Rock is selling tattoo cream. And Gwyneth Paltrow just recently said that she's adding carbs and cheese back into her diet.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

That's right.

[Jenny Yang]

And so then, you know, it's tough times. Do you know what I'm saying? It's. We're doing what we all can to cope. Yeah.

[Susie Park]

It's a recalibration of planet Earth is what it is.

[Jenny Yang]

It is.

[Ku]

Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

It is.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Now, Jenny quickly asked me if I did purchase Papa Tui tattoo Lochon.

[Susie Park]

No, you did not.

[Jenny Yang]

Wait, are you familiar with papatui? Is it because you're a Pacific Islander? Ally.

[Susie Park]

No, it's because she's covered in tattoos.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I mean, just my arm. Sushin, please.

[Susie Park]

I don't know that.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

And as you.

[Susie Park]

We don't know that. I need proof of that.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

What you know, Suchin, is that I'm obsessed with moisturization.

[Susie Park]

That I do know.

[Jenny Yang]

She's got a weird thing that's fair.

[Susie Park]

And a morsel of dryness. It really creeps her out.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I don't like it.

[Jenny Yang]

I really don't like it. Your body is not built for dry weather. Cool up. And so that's actually. Yeah.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

You both have dried earwax. I have.

[Tegan Gerard]

You know.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Wet.

[Jenny Yang]

That's right.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Slimy. Southeast Asian.

[Susie Park]

She said it. Think about it.

[Jenny Yang]

For those who follow the add to cart lore that has been established that East Asians here have dry earwax. And. And I'm not saying it's not weird.

[Susie Park]

But it doesn't matter. Right.

[Jenny Yang]

Sorry. It's superior. Sorry. East Asian supremacy. Sorry. Damn. I know.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Well, I'm used to it, so it's not like, you know, I don't. This is very familiar.

[Susie Park]

And again, we just tear it down. Didn't we do this last time? We all sat together.

[Jenny Yang]

Yes.

[Susie Park]

We built it up and then we tore it down. God, that's fun.

[Ku]

God.

[Jenny Yang]

And now we're doing it during APA Heritage. Okay, I'm so sorry.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

No, it's. It's our right.

[Susie Park]

Absolutely. I haven't felt this powerful in years.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Jenny, please tell us about your new podcast. I wanna know.

[Susie Park]

Yeah, okay.

[Jenny Yang]

I'm so excited. You know, I've just sort of. When the pandemic happened, I got depressed, like everyone, you know, people were dying, things like that. And I was just like, I don't wanna be online. And I finally, in the last year or so figured out how I wanna be online again, which is I need to process what's going on. And so I figured out a way to take three old iPhones and an iPad, video and audio weekly. And I'm doing that now.

[Susie Park]

She's making her way downtown.

[Jenny Yang]

I am making my way downtown. And so I've just hard launched the podcast, the home of it. The full extended cut will always be@jenny yang.substack.com but you can listen to really juicy shorter episodes out wherever you pod. It's called what should we talk about with Jenny Yang? And I have one to two guests every week and we all suggest topics and then I curate the agenda. You as a listener can also suggest. And it could be anything. It could be petty, it's philosophical, it could be current, it could be historical. It doesn't matter what topic. We could have a submission from Add to Cart. Be like the Add to Cart aunties want you to talk about X. You know, and I can add that to the agenda and we discuss it and it's fun.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I love Jenny.

[Susie Park]

You know, that's. We've talked about this before, we're going.

[Ku]

To continue to talk about it.

[Susie Park]

But for me, doing this podcast, besides the, the, you know, billions of dollars I've made from it is the processing for someone like me who doesn't like to process. I'm not saying I can't do it on my own, but she can't do it on my own. I can't do it like medically can't do it on my own. You know, I'm in between therapists trying to find the right one. So for me, if there isn't an appointment time where I'm processing, God, that's really crazy because to not see your own self. What does that mean? And I'm asking that not facetiously.

[Tegan Gerard]

Dysregulation.

[Susie Park]

Is that really what it is?

[Jenny Yang]

That's what that is. That's what that is.

[Susie Park]

That's what it is. I don't see myself ever.

[Jenny Yang]

Do you not feel like you have a regular portal into your inner life?

[Susie Park]

God, no. I would hate that.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah.

[Ku]

Interesting.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

You're talking about me right now.

[Tegan Gerard]

My ears are burning.

[Susie Park]

Because you have a regular portal.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I'm your regular portal, dumbass.

[Jenny Yang]

Wow, again.

[Susie Park]

Do you see that? You see that? Okay, sorry. Real time processing here, Jenny. And I'm glad that you're here for it, because this is what your podcast is about. Is that, like, when she said portal, blah, blah, blah. I was like, oh, God, can't going inside, but cool up. The safe word for me is, she's my mirror. And so, like, I'll say something or do something, and she will just be like, yeah, that's why you do this. It seems very obvious, maybe from the outside in, because I can't see myself.

[Jenny Yang]

Right?

[Susie Park]

So that.

[Ku]

That's. Sorry, I just.

[Jenny Yang]

That's just good friendship, you know, is to have someone be a mirror. Also, if you grew up in a way where what you think is normal is actually not, it helps to have other people hear you describe it. And then go, wait, what? And then you go, wait. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Is that weird? You know, like, the way other people had, like, Nutter Butters and Oreo cookies in packages and, you know, like, they got to eat that after school? Never. I'm like, no, we didn't have that.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

We didn't have that.

[Jenny Yang]

But when I went to Carrie's house, you know, and she's my one white friend from elementary school, I was like, how are we all? I don't under.

[Susie Park]

Wait, can we.

[Jenny Yang]

There's packaged snacks, and I would pass.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Out white rabbits, and all the white people would think I was magic. Because you eat the paper.

[Jenny Yang]

That's right. That was such a flex. Why was every child eating rice paper? It was such a thing for white people to impress them.

[Susie Park]

I just saw it recently in real time at a store and a little kid who wasn't Asian, I was like, oh, you don't peel that. You eat it. And they were like, eh, But.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

And meanwhile, cool up in Minnesota is like, may I buy your friendship? Can we go, wait, I wonder.

[Jenny Yang]

That's how you impress them. That's how you impress them.

[Susie Park]

Celebrating aunties and Asians. Wait, can we go around the table and just quickly say, that like one experience that maybe like a core memory, early memory when you were like, oh, that's not what we do in my house. Or that doesn't appear in my house. Like, I'll go first. I once was at my friend's house, white, and she asked her mother if I could stay for dinner. And her mother said, well, she'll have to have your portion. And I had half of her dinner.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

What the fuck is it?

[Jenny Yang]

It is a dog eat dog out here. Dog eat dog world, America. Wow. Damn.

[Susie Park]

I mean, to her credit, she probably only bought four pork chops.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah. It's just so not Asian. Like, I mean, I get it. If you were under a budget.

[Susie Park]

At my wildest.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

It's just even always have so much food.

[Susie Park]

At the embryo of 8 years old, I was like, I. You know what I mean? I didn't. Couldn't specify, but I was like, that's up.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. Anyway, they're 100% parents who kick their kids out at exactly 18 years old.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Huh.

[Jenny Yang]

You know what I mean? I feel like that's like very white American to me.

[Susie Park]

I've never heard of it.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah. For me, I can't remember. It was elementary school for sure and definitely before third grade. And kids would bring for lunch and for snacks, string cheese. So I begged my mom, can I have string cheese? She bought it for me. That part was so nice. And then I opened up a package and I started pulling the string cheese as one is meant to do. And she yelled at me and said that I was playing with my food and then forced me to eat it like a carrot, like a fucking psychopath. And so I ate that cheese like it was.

[Susie Park]

Ew.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I don't know again, celery.

[Jenny Yang]

You can't.

[Susie Park]

It sits like a rock in your stomach if you can't peel it. No, it doesn't digest.

[Jenny Yang]

You cannot chop.

[Susie Park]

No. You have to.

[Jenny Yang]

Mozzarella stick.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Okay.

[Jenny Yang]

Jenny, cheese, I mean, string cheese. It's mozzarella stick to me.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah, but you string it.

[Susie Park]

That you pull the string. That's how foreign it is to her. She hasn't even had yet.

[Jenny Yang]

She's using the oil. That is traumatizing. Yeah. I have so many of these stories, I don't know where to start, but I feel like, you know, it's like what I mentioned. I didn't realize there was packaged food because my mom cooked every day and everything.

[Susie Park]

You ate?

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah, yeah. It just, I never understood that. I was like, why do you have so many packaged foods? It's so expensive. How can you just it's just willy nilly in this cabinet. You just grab whatever you want after school.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

What?

[Jenny Yang]

Your parents aren't here. You could just eat whatever you want. The other thing I realized was I had a white girlfriend who had a very messy bedroom. And I thought that was crazy. I was like, how is that possible? How do you exist? Your underwear is just around on the floor.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

What?

[Jenny Yang]

You know, I know, like, just dirty laundry everywhere. I was like, okay, yeah. So, you know, I don't ascribe that to white people, but that was my childhood white encounter.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I mean, look, this is a taste of, you know, what can be talked about, certainly at abscar, but of course, your substack in your new podcast.

[Jenny Yang]

It could be anything. It could be political statements or it could be silly things.

[Ku]

I'm gonna submit this and force you.

[Susie Park]

To have us on, and we're gonna talk about this.

[Jenny Yang]

Okay? Yeah, but it's, you know, you do know it's in person. Wow. What are we gonna do about that? Are we gonna have to visit where you are suchin.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Come down.

[Ku]

I have a she shedding.

[Susie Park]

I have a she shed.

[Jenny Yang]

I will go mobile. I will go mobile, you guys. Instead of having a she shed, I.

[Susie Park]

Have my own snacks in there. I have a refrigerator in there.

[Jenny Yang]

Do you have a good lighting?

[Susie Park]

I have fantastic lighting. So much lighting.

[Jenny Yang]

Do you have studio lighting? Because I do have studio lighting.

[Susie Park]

No, I don't have studio lighting, Jenny. I'm not making my way. God damn you. Don't call me out like that.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

We're gonna take our first break and at some point off mic, Jenny, I'm gonna ask you why you added to cart substack versus other subscript. We're not gonna get into that right now. Know that I remain a Jenny Yang student. Okay, let's take a break.

[Susie Park]

Coo.

[Ku]

One thing about my dog Cosmo, he's. He's a picky eater. He's just like one of my kids. Isn't that strange?

[Susie Park]

I mean, he'll gobble up salami slices like, no tomorrow, but dog food? He says, no, I'm good.

[Jenny Yang]

Wow.

[Susie Park]

I know.

[Jenny Yang]

Wow.

[Susie Park]

What are the odds? What are the odds?

[Ku]

What are the odds that I attracted.

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[Ku]

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[Kulap Vilay Sak]

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[Kulap Vilay Sak]

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[Tegan Gerard]

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[Kulap Vilay Sak]

We are back on add to cart with the wonderful Jenny Yang. Before we get into your cart, Jenny, just remind us, what's your shopping style? What? How do you add the cart?

[Jenny Yang]

Oh, I add to cart and then I don't pay. I just leave it in the cart. And then they're like, did you forget something? I get an email. It's always that. And it comes and goes. Because, you know, definitely I did a lot of purchasing when I got this house, but after that it's just kind of been, you know, soothing myself during the pandemic with certain clothing purchases that I will never wear. And then I think this year with a lot of the economic boycotts, it was just another incentive for me to be like 2025. I should definitely be no buy or low buy. So, yeah, that's where I'm at right now. I will still buy or buy, spend money on food, you know what I mean? And sometimes food experiences. But I'll be frank. I sold an asset. I won't say what it is, but I sold an asset recently just so that I could be liquid because I was running out of money, you know, and that Hollywood money isn't coming in as quickly. But guess what? Lots of growth on the substack. Subscriptions, paid subscriptions. So I appreciate that. But yeah, so because of that I was like, oh, I should just kind of like dial back the purchasing.

[Susie Park]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because money not spent is money earned.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

That's right. Let's keep talking about your subsack. And one of the things you're adding to cart is tagging your famous childhood crush in videos to get their attention. Wait, what?

[Jenny Yang]

So this is what happened. A couple weeks ago, I had a conversation about sinners. It was sort of a. It was themed around being an Asian and black deep dive into the movie because there was like a Chinese, Mississippi Delta presence of a character in the story. And I had Blakely Thornton, which I know you've had on Add to Cart, and Dolly Lee, who was the Chinese cultural consultant for Ryan Coogler on the movie Sinners. And so the three of us chatted about sort of like that intersection of Asian and black. And I. I was just saying that, you know, I will assume if someone vaguely looks Asian or Chinesey, that they are Asian or Chinese. Y. So if you're a famous black person, I'm like, I will look you up and be like, are you from the Caribbean?

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I will do that because we are everywhere. Chinese people are everywhere. And there's a lot of mixed black folks or mixed white, whatever, Latinx folks who are Chinese. And one of the people I mentioned was Tyson Beckford, and that was included in a clip that I put on my socials. And Blakely tagged him and he responded and then he DMed me with a lovely emoji.

[Susie Park]

What was the emoji?

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

An Asian emoji.

[Susie Park]

Was it a.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

A fruit emoji? Was it. Oh, exudion pie.

[Susie Park]

I was gonna say an apple.

[Jenny Yang]

It was not a fruit.

[Susie Park]

Like take a bite of the apple.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Oh, okay. I thought, all right.

[Jenny Yang]

Cuz I said that Tyson Beckford was very. Tyson Beckford was very instrumental to my burgeoning libido.

[Susie Park]

Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

My puberty.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

And we're grateful. What was that?

[Jenny Yang]

He sends a little.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

A little heart.

[Jenny Yang]

He sends a little heart.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

It's like an emoji of him with hearts on it. That's lovely.

[Jenny Yang]

Isn't that nice?

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

It's so nice.

[Susie Park]

God. When a man dm's you and it's not problematic. We celebrate that in 2025, don't we? Cause I want to celebrate that.

[Jenny Yang]

Look him up if you don't know who he is. He's a fine ass model slash actor. Still fine from the 90s and forever in my heart.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Oh, my goodness. You were just talking about you've resolved to have a low to no buy year. And so you are. You're using the things you have.

[Jenny Yang]

I am. And I know it's not relatable, but, you know, as someone who gets like PR gifts because I'm a micro niche influencer, I'm using the stuff that I'm given, you know?

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah. Like a first gen oura ring.

[Jenny Yang]

I'm using an aura ring.

[Susie Park]

First gen.

[Jenny Yang]

It was like third gen or something, but it was sitting in a box forever. And it was from that, you know, that HBO show called Made for Love. It Was about, like, virtual reality. Christina Meloti.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yes. Yes.

[Jenny Yang]

Was the star of it.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Okay.

[Jenny Yang]

It was like low key scary, but like sci fi. Anyway, HBO Max 100% had that money before they fully integrated. So they said, we're gonna give you fancy promo gifts.

[Susie Park]

That is a very fancy promo gift. Of course, you're now logged into an HBO Max database that's tracking you, but who cares? Everything has a price.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. So I've been using this oura ring, and turns out, guys, I am stressed out for no reason. Oh, no. Because this Oura ring will give you grass about your stress levels.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah, but Jenny is a trap. It's not for no reason, sweetheart. You know it's not for no reason.

[Susie Park]

Yeah, that you just said you're making a difference.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

There's actually a lot of reasons, Jenny.

[Susie Park]

Literally, it's first half hour talking about all of the reasons, which is also why I don't wear one of those. I'm like, I don't need you to tell me what I know, which is.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

That she's not sleeping and that she's stressed out.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah.

[Susie Park]

And then I'm stressed out all the time. Like, what?

[Jenny Yang]

Come on. But it's nice to, like, remind me, because I am trying to build in more rest. Rest days. And that is a luxury that I can try to intentionally do that. So I'm trying to rest. Okay? I'm trying to read my little books.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yes, girl, go on my little walks.

[Ku]

Rest is resistance.

[Jenny Yang]

Ease into my sleep. Rest is resistance. Especially for people who've been doing too much already. I'm telling the people who are not doing anything to step the fuck up. Okay. I feel like rest is resistance can be taken too far. All right. Okay. Because I am a recovering overachieving type. A little piece of shit. Okay. And I don't know how to do anything less. And I'm telling you, everyone else who doesn't relate to that, y' all are the ones mooching off of us. So it's time for you to step up.

[Susie Park]

Yes.

[Jenny Yang]

I love it. We need to rest. So rest is resistance. Yes. But if you're not doing shit, please, please step the fuck up.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

That's right.

[Jenny Yang]

Okay. That's where I'm at right now.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

That's where you are at.

[Jenny Yang]

I'm doing a weekly fucking podcast on my own. I got fucking softbox lights. I have four fucking microphones. That's just my default.

[Susie Park]

I'm actually nauseous to think about it for you.

[Jenny Yang]

That's me resting. That's me exercising at 50% oh, my God, that's. I'm not even doing that much state of comedy anymore, okay? So y' all need to fucking step up. I'm just saying. Restless resistance. Yeah, resist the rest for me, not for you. Exactly. We need to get granular on these fucking statements.

[Susie Park]

Okay, it depends on what time you're listening to this conversation. Let's start there. Look at your watch.

[Jenny Yang]

If you heard me say I'm an A type, hall monitor, overachieving piece of shit, and you didn't laugh at that, that means you are not and you.

[Susie Park]

Need to step up good markers. We are clear signs along the way so nobody is confused.

[Jenny Yang]

I have too many emotions. That's why I need to do this weekly podcast. Or else what am I going to do? Just yell at my fucking fiance all day? It's satisfying because he's a white man, but, you know, I can't. He can only take a vessel for my anger.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

He can't bear that entire burden.

[Jenny Yang]

No, no. Not the ancestral burden of all of my anger. No.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

It's just simply not fair. He cannot. He can hold up some of it, though, but not all of it. Not most of it. No.

[Jenny Yang]

No. And for my podcast, he's on the fourth mic, but he's heard, not seen, which feels right. You know what I mean? He's never on camera. I will never let another white man be on a podcast. Mic, camera, not on my watch was too much. That's too much. I told you. I'm already doing too much. I'm resisting with rest. The rest of you, you need to step up.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

That's right. Do your stretches and then get to fucking work.

[Jenny Yang]

Seriously.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Let's talk about five Calls app. Suchin's brought it up before, but I love that you're all about it, too.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. The 5 calls app is such an innovation, you know, it kind of takes away the pain of, like, being like, what's. Who's my representative? What's the script? Am I gonna say to this person? Because, you know, these Gen Z people, they don't want to talk on the phone, period. Much less we're out here trying to tell them to call your representative because we want to protest. So five Calls is so beautiful because you just put in your address and it'll just give you a one clicker, just click through, and it gives you a little script. And you could just, like, you could just be just like a stripper with dead eyes and just say the words. Do you know what I'm saying? You know, like, you don't have to put any energy into it and you just say the words and that's what's nice about it. It really takes the friction out from like being politically activated.

[Susie Park]

Why?

[Jenny Yang]

Suchin, what are you talking. Why are you laughing so hard?

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Okay, I'm laughing because you said stripper, dead eye stripper. And then you said it removes the friction. That's why I'm laughing. Soojin, why are you laughing?

[Jenny Yang]

I'm sorry.

[Susie Park]

That's not enough. We need to do more than that. She needs to come up with more material than that. I have a sweat mustache. Like, yes. Dead eyes place.

[Ku]

That's.

[Susie Park]

That's the kind of protesting that people like us want to do at this point. Like you said. Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

You don't need to put your emotions into it. You don't have.

[Susie Park]

You don't have your emotions invested in it. They're not putting their emotion into it.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Especially since we are being inundated. It's not.

[Tegan Gerard]

You can't.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

You physically can't expend that much cortisol.

[Susie Park]

That's what's so great about this app. You just tap and you move on. That's it.

[Jenny Yang]

Exactly.

[Susie Park]

That's what we're telling you. The pitch is that it's half a sentence. So it's really for the most minimal effort. For the biggest impact is this. And I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[Jenny Yang]

Just go through the motions and you'll get your call logged. And there we go. That's activism.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Let's talk about how you stripped your hair in and now it's blonde.

[Jenny Yang]

See, that's the kind of segue I expect at ADD to cart. Okay, we got a journalist. We got a cooler. All right? We got a high energy, improvised, trained cool up. And she will give us. Oh, she's trying to high quality transition.

[Susie Park]

That's right. That's corporate transition. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, you have to like there's 401k.

[Ku]

There's.

[Susie Park]

You know what I mean? There's training.

[Jenny Yang]

She's fully salaried.

[Susie Park]

That's a full transition. Like you don't. You don't just pick that up on Tick Tock. Like.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

No, no, there's training.

[Jenny Yang]

I mean snack and coffee budget. You know what I mean? There is a break room.

[Susie Park]

There's a break room. Exactly.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Now Jennie is a natural Asian with blonde hair and she's found something. She's found a Korean hair mask that is better than Olaplex and almost as good as K18. What is it, Jenny?

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah, it's called CER. 100. I don't know, some of these Korean brands, they're getting lost in translation, but.

[Susie Park]

I know what it looks like.

[Jenny Yang]

So cer 100. There might be like a, a bigger beauty brand name to it, but that's the like precise hair mask and it comes in a tube and it has like an. A redhead orange haired cartoon on it.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yes, it's Elizaveca.

[Jenny Yang]

Is the brand Elizaveca? Great. So I don't know why this Korean brand got such an Italian ass name, but maybe it's not Korean. But I really love it. It's really affordable. And when you dye your hair, you strip it of all its natural Asian nutrients. It feels like straw. And so when you put in this little mask before you, your conditioner, it just transforms it. And then K18, I do love it.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

It's expensive.

[Jenny Yang]

I got it.

[Susie Park]

It's expensive.

[Jenny Yang]

It's very expensive for like $75 for this tiny thing. Yeah, yeah, No, I got that as a fucking PR promo. So I ain't gonna buy that shit again.

[Susie Park]

Not in this economy.

[Jenny Yang]

Not in this economy. Not when I can spend $12 on something that's twice the amount.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I mean, this is a hot tip. This is a really hot tip.

[Susie Park]

I'm gonna give you another hot tip that I hope will happen again is I bought my years of K18 half off during Black Friday. So I have like a little list, it's a very tight edited list of things that just I never not have. And then I just wait for Black Friday and I do the searches. And generally I would say 90% of my list is then bought for the year on that day.

[Jenny Yang]

Oh, that's so good. See, that is a smart buyer.

[Susie Park]

Yeah. I mean, I have so much of it, I just use it as like, you know, flyaway hair cream.

[Tegan Gerard]

What?

[Jenny Yang]

Wow. You are rich in K18.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Correct.

[Jenny Yang]

You're like, I use it as body lotion.

[Tegan Gerard]

Yeah.

[Susie Park]

By the way, every day people listening to this, knowing what K18 costs. Yeah, I said it.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Damn, girl.

[Susie Park]

I'm unrelatable. I'm relatable.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

You are.

[Jenny Yang]

Wow. Wow.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Okay, well, let's take our second break and be back inside of Jenny's cart.

[Jenny Yang]

Ooh, sexy.

[Ku]

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[Tegan Gerard]

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[Kulap Vilay Sak]

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[Tegan Gerard]

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[Ku]

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[Susie Park]

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[Ku]

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[Kulap Vilay Sak]

We are back on add to cart. And it's getting sexy in here, guys. We're with Jenny Yang. The beautiful Jenny Yang. The smart Jenny Yang. The intrepid Jenny Yang.

[Susie Park]

The Jenny Yang who making her way.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Who's making her way downtown.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Let's talk about these phone cases by Bailey Hikawa.

[Jenny Yang]

I'm showing you guys my phone case. I love it. Bailey Hikawa is an artist, Asian American. And it's just kind of like, I don't know, sculptural but ergonomic. And it just makes you feel like you're not gonna drop your phone as easily. It does double the volume of an actual phone. So it's. It's not like it's just a pocket phone situation, but it's a purse phone. And I do swap it out when I do wanna pocket phone it for like a slimmer case, but just for like everyday use. It's just so much more fun to handle. Cause there's like knobs and nubs on it, you know?

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Ooh, that's tactile. That's interesting. I haven't seen anything like that. Jenny, I like this.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. Hot tip.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

What a hot tip. If you go on our website, there's so many different designs and colors.

[Tegan Gerard]

Let's see.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Here we are.

[Tegan Gerard]

Let's see.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

They range from about like 59 to, let's say 89 with. With even more special ones that look really cool. This is so cool. How did you hear about this brand?

[Jenny Yang]

I feel like I saw it on some, like, pushed Instagram ad.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Oh, yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

You know, and then I saw Margaret Cho and then she has it. And then I was like, oh, that's right. This is the thing that, like, I was trying not to buy. So this is one of the few things I did buy this year that was like beyond just food and subsistence because I wanted a new phone for shooting my. My new podcast. Because that's what I shoot my podcast on video wise is through iPhones.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I mean, Jen, trust that I'm listening to you. And I'm leaning in hard, really hard.

[Susie Park]

And to be honest, realizing how, how much it takes and also leaning out, you know?

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah, that's right. I'm just. I'm not leaning in anymore. I'm leaning back.

[Susie Park]

Yeah.

[Ku]

This is you at 50%, which is.

[Jenny Yang]

You need to lean in.

[Susie Park]

Saying a lot.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I'm saying a lot.

[Jenny Yang]

My aura tells me that my aura ring is out here telling me she's.

[Susie Park]

Never worked this hard for a client.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Jenny, I wanna jump around. I want you to talk to us about this. Remove from cart. I just want you to cook. I want you to.

[Susie Park]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Spout off about anti DEI backlash.

[Jenny Yang]

Oh, my God. Remove to cart. Anti DEI backlash. It is so annoying. It's like when corporate America was barely in the DEI pool and they're like jumping out so quick. You're like, was that too hot for you already? Is this a hot tub? I thought this was just a nice, warm, heated pool.

[Ku]

Barely.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I mean, lukewarm barely.

[Susie Park]

It's a foot bath.

[Jenny Yang]

The rest of us were in that pool. They're like, come on in, the water's fine. But corporate America, they got so scared because they're like, well, the sign of the times. Gotta be able to sell to middle America. How many more cowboy westerns can we make on television? No, no. This is unacceptable.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

How do you reject us when you barely wanted us?

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

That's the gall of it all. The audacity. It's like some guy coming up to you and then they're like, hey, what's up, girl? And you're like, oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm just here to have a girls night out, you know, have a good night. And they're like, well, fuck you then. You're ugly anyway. You know what I mean? That's how that feels.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah, Right?

[Jenny Yang]

It's the audacity. It's all of it. Yeah.

[Susie Park]

Because I mean, it's like from our perspective, it's like so little.

[Jenny Yang]

So.

[Susie Park]

It was so little. One almost. Fine, take it. Fuck it. Have it. Are things gonna be that much worse? I'm just saying, you know what I mean?

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. DEI initiatives do have money attached to it, which is nice. But it's like. And let me just use the case of Canada, for example. Canada is definitely not perfect. Okay. But they actually fund art.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

You know what I mean? They like. They have money for like, stuff like that, which is considered liberal or progressive and dei. Ish. Because what we could actually recognize the humanity beyond those who are in power. That's insane to me. We could have it so much better. And then they have the gall to call it dei do you know what I'm saying? The whole framing of Di originally was already upsetting because you're like, oh, we're just, just people who have something really great to offer. But you have to put this frame around it. Like it's diversity, equity and inclusion. Fine, let's just call it that. But now you want to take that money away and it's like, okay, well.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Then you're also going to, you know, find Target. Then you don't have my money. And I was down there quite a bit, but that's fine. Then I'll take money too.

[Susie Park]

Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

This is what's upsetting is we've come so far from, you know, posting black squares on Instagram in June of 2020 to. Yeah, this is really revealing how much you are a fair weather friend. You know, so many people were out here in 2020 being like, oh, right, let's bring in creators of color black folks into, say, Target. Right. All of these incredible.

[Susie Park]

Yeah, they made a lot of money that creative.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. And they did. Because what are we going to do? We're going to go to Tabitha, you know, I forgot her last name. Tabitha Brown. But of course we're going to go buy some eggs and whatever other things they count on. Target made so much, so much money off of that. This, you know, it's not just dei but it's bottom line. And so I just think it's really silly and, and not good for business.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Can I.

[Jenny Yang]

Not good for business?

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

That's what is so wild.

[Tegan Gerard]

It's not good for business.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. Target's been getting the CEO got a pay cut or some.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Yeah. But he's still getting millions and millions of dollars. Millions and billions, but 45% less. So that feels good.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. So I feel like, you know, I think one of where I'm at right now is DEI as a framework was shit to begin with, but for you to now say we don't want you in this DI framework is annoying. And then also for fellow BIPOC creators, fellow Asian Americans especially, you know, I think we really need to question how much we have placed our trust into representational politics. Just because I see someone with an Asian face doesn't mean they're truly about me or about taking care of the most vulnerable amongst the. And I think that's what's really the message I want us to hear is like, as Asian Americans, we cannot pray at the altar of representation only there's other things that really matter. How we're treated isn't just by putting our faces in a commercial if they don't care about us in other ways. So.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

And you're talking about like performative, presentational only.

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah, sure, some of those actors get hired because, you know they're gonna have to be the faces of these commercial campaigns. But this is where my politics comes in. You know, I don't believe capitalism can save us. You know, and this is coming from someone who's kind of rich. I'm going to just say it. I made some good money working in this industry. Even before when I worked in politics, I had a six figure salary. So as they say, those who have money, sometimes it's easier for them to say how. It's not important. But that's not everything, is all I'm saying.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I like, like it.

[Susie Park]

Yeah, I like it.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

I like it. Yeah.

[Jenny Yang]

Burn it down.

[Susie Park]

Oh, sorry. Was that not the message? Sorry. That's what I got from that.

[Jenny Yang]

You know, things are collapsing. I think it's a matter of like I, I'm really of the mindset of like all I can control is my life and what I can, my sphere of influence. And so let me try to create the world that I want to live in in a small way. So I've been organizing these like monthly get togethers for people to feel like they can do some level of physical activism. We don't take photos of it, we don't do videos of it, but that's what we're trying to do to encourage each other to kind of stay engaged. Figure that out. Yeah, Anything that allows us to like not have to rely on these systems like corporations or big box retailers, you know, keep our subsistence, the oligarchs. How do we feel less dependent? You know, because that's the thing. It's like a lot of us who are Asian American come from immigrants or refugees. Like we know what it's like to not rely on, on documented official things. Yeah, like a cash economy, bartering.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

We know that.

[Jenny Yang]

We know what that's like.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

We know that.

[Jenny Yang]

Okay. For the longest time I never went to like a Ralph's or a Vons. You know, we grew up going to the, to the Latino Supermarket or the 99 Ranch or like the Vietnamese small grocery store or we grew the vegetables in our garden. So you know, anything that's like, about subsistence, we're going to be able to learn from, from our elders generally.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Add to cart.

[Jenny Yang]

Add to cart.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Jenny, where can people follow you and then remind people how to sign up for your sub stack?

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah. So you can follow me on Instagram. Or on TikTok at Jenny YangTV, go to jennyyang.substack.com and that will be where you will be able to watch video of my podcast or listen to it. But now I've officially pushed it out as a podcast wherever you could listen to it. So if you want to hear a shorter version of my podcast, you could just go wherever you pod. But then if you want the full extended cut, that's right, you have to go to Jenny aubstack.com and become a paid subscriber.

[Susie Park]

Yeah, that's right.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Get it all, get it all with the fixins and the banchan.

[Jenny Yang]

This past week we had drag queen, drag icon, drag race icon Kim Chi on. She brought over these viral TikTok baked goods from a bakery near his house and we tasted it, you know, behind the pages. So listen, if you're a paid subscriber, you could see us do this amazing taste test and we also ogle a celebrity's penis photo.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Oh, I mean, bury the leaf.

[Susie Park]

Cheap. That's cheap money. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. She's at 50%, giving you 110. If that isn't a deal, if we can't end this month on the best deal around, then what is? Aapi? Hm?

[Ku]

Month?

[Susie Park]

What is it if we can't end on a disc discount?

[Jenny Yang]

Yeah, you got to support smaller creators like me. Those corporate hoes, them.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Please make sure you follow us on Instagram at tocartpod. Jenny, thank you again for returning. You're the best. You're the absolute best.

[Susie Park]

Thank you.

[Kulap Vilay Sak]

Bye bye everybody.

[Ku]

Add to Cart is an Auntie's unlimited production with sales and distribution by Lemonada Media. Executive producers are Kula Balaisak and Sujinpak. Tony Williams is our engineer. The music is by Wasabi and produced by La Made it and oh so familiar with additional music by APM Music.

[Susie Park]

Be sure to check out all the.

[Ku]

Items mentioned today on our Instagram D2 cart pod.

[Susie Park]

Follow Add to Cart wherever you get.

[Ku]

Your podcasts or listen ad free on Amazon Music with your prime members membership. There's more. Add to Cart with Lemonada Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content. Subscribe now at Apple Podcasts.

[David Duchovny]

Hey everyone, it's David Duchovny. Do you ever feel like a failure? Trust me, I get it. Hell, I've spent my whole life almost feeling like a failure. It's appropriate though, because on Fail Better, my new podcast with Lemonada Media, exploring the world of failure, how it holds us back. Propels us forward and ultimately shapes our lives is the whole point. Each week I'll chat with artists, athletes, actors and experts about how our perceived failures have actually been our biggest catalysts for growth, revelation, and even healing. Through these conversations, I hope we can learn how to embrace the opportunity of failure and Fail Better together. Fail Better is out now. You can listen ad free on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Megan]

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