New Even Looser Era

Summary

Add to Cart with Kulap Vilaysack & SuChin Pak

Episode: New Even Looser Era

Date: November 7, 2025

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Overview

In “New Even Looser Era,” Kulap and SuChin reunite after a hiatus, returning to their signature blend of heartfelt, hilarious, and deeply personal conversations—this time, in an even “looser” and more unfiltered form. This episode marks a turning point: the duo officially sets aside all ambition for regular production schedules and commercial success, focusing instead on their genuine friendship, the pleasures of catching up, and, as always, the things they’re “adding to cart.” As a treat, they also serve up a previously unreleased recording on their “middle age crushes,” moving from beauty and shopping recs to honest, effervescent thirsting over pop culture’s finest.

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Table of Contents

• The Return of Add to Cart (01:52)
• A “New Even Looser Era” (05:46)
• Rebuilding Community & Expectations (11:24)
• What’s in Their Carts: Beauty & Skincare Obsessions (20:15)
• Middle Age Crushes: Unfiltered Thirst (41:27)
• Notable Quotes & Moments
• Upcoming Episodes and Final Thoughts (36:22, 38:27)

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The Return of Add to Cart

(01:52–05:45)

• Kulap and SuChin reintroduce themselves, poking fun at their lack of podcast “training” after six years and comparing their production process to “rats in a cage clicking on an electrified lever for a treat.”
• Dialog on podcasting muscle memory and technical mishaps: “For you to just fall off the face of the zoom and this recording in the middle of our most chaotic introduction… is right. It’s like we script it.” — SuChin (05:19)
• Listeners (“Carters”) are welcomed back with self-deprecating jokes about their absence and low-key return: “We’re slipping back in. Hoping that you never saw us really leave… is that too much to ask after five years?” — SuChin (03:54)

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A “New Even Looser Era”

(05:46–11:22)

• The “New Even Looser Era” is introduced—code for their complete abandonment of rigid schedules, advertising goals, or commercial aspirations.
• SuChin: “We could be the only podcast…where we are truly doing this because you and I just want to sit down and catch up.” (07:03)
• Both reminisce about failed attempts at entrepreneurship: “Almost the second that we decided to officially have an LLC is when it all came down.” — Kulap (08:51)
• Clarity: New episodes will drop at random. No promises, no regularity—just whenever the vibe strikes.
• “Won’t it be nice for us to arrive to your home via your phone unannounced?” — Kulap (09:45)
• “At first you’re like, it’s not a great time… then when you see the bounty of gifts we’ve brought, you’re like, god damn, I’ve missed you.” — SuChin (09:53)

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Rebuilding Community & Expectations

(11:24–19:59)

• Call to join their email list at Add to Cart World—not for “Patreon” or “Substack,” but for future undefined potential.
• SuChin admits to checking the email list for comfort and affirmation: “It’s so validating. You should do it on a day when you’re like, ‘what is this all for?’” (13:22)
• The pair discuss the beauty of low expectations and the freedom of no professional aspiration: “This is the purest virginal form of Add to Cart.” — SuChin (09:15)
• Transition to content: Today’s episode includes both classic Add to Cart recs plus a bonus deep-dive into “middle age crushes.”

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What’s in Their Carts: Beauty & Skincare Obsessions

(20:15–36:00)

Kulap’s Picks

• Color Analysis & K-Beauty Obsession (20:15)
  • Got her "colors done" in K-Town—discovered she's a “deep autumn,” sparking a wardrobe and makeup overhaul.
• Olive Young / Estura ADO Barrier 365 Cream (21:13)
  • “It's the time, babies...fall into winter and you got that dry skin—365, this is the one.”
  • Moisturizer is unscented (“so faint”), light, and a “game changer.”
• Judy Doll Curling Iron Mascara (23:27)
  • Budget-friendly, Chinese brand—“drugstore prices.”
  • “Replaces the blue-bottle mascara,” does not smudge or flake, and actually curls lashes: “This wand, Sue, this metal wand with grooves, the application...it's outstanding.”
• TikTok Shopping (22:29–27:44)
  • Now prefers TikTok over Instagram for both product discovery and purchasing: “I’ve become the TikTok dealer...I don’t even do it for a markup. That’s my purity.”
  • Warns SuChin about the addictive speed: “It’s like a drug.”

SuChin’s Picks

• Violette Lip Nectar Gloss/Stain (28:38)
  • Violette (finally at Sephora): “Goes on like a gloss, as you eat and talk it leaves a beautiful lip stain...These little things are game changers for me.”
• Good Light Cleansing Grinder (32:46)
  • A cleansing balm with a twist-top “grinder” so you never have to dip your fingers: “At night, we're just trying to get through it. And I love it's a strawberry shortcake smell—the toy, not the dessert!”

Both Preview

• Reliable chaos: “These are going to be bigger episodes going forward… or maybe they’re not going to be.” (35:01)
• Surrendering structure: “Why am I trying to create packaging? It won’t ever make sense… and yet, inherently, it will.” — Kulap (35:07)
• Permission to be “less productive”: “Say statements and make promises that you’ll never ever follow through on.” — SuChin (36:10)

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Middle Age Crushes: Unfiltered Thirst

(41:27–79:18)

Setting the Scene

• The duo prefaces with theatrical, mock-sexy banter about “setting the mood” to talk about their thirsts.
• SuChin: “What makes us hornay… I mean spread it, by it I mean our legs.” (41:41)

SuChin’s Crushes

• Harris Dickinson (star of “Baby Girl,” pronounced “Harry Dick”)
  • SuChin’s playful obsession: “He was born to be a hottie, okay? His name is Harry Dick. I can't make it up.”
  • Super hot with his actual British accent (“a bad boy, skateboarder energy”).
  • Chicken Shop Date and his deadpan humor is the ultimate (51:09).
  • “Give me a guy in a gold necklace... deadpan sense of humor, is gonna be a dick... and I'm there. I'm spreading the velvet curtain.” (51:46)
• Charles Melton (Riverdale, Beef, Love Hangover video)
  • “I have a chapter two.” (61:07)
  • Volunteered as an extra on Beef and spent 12 hours “dating” Melton on set.
  • “I watched this Adonis... be kind and funny and hardworking and self-deprecating. The MVP of the set.” (66:52)
  • “It's not often... that I could tell you are as good, if not better, in person.” (68:09)
• Josh Jackson (Dawson’s Creek)
  • Surprise “frothy list” inclusion after interviewing him: “Dripping with charm.” (69:21)
• Ultimate Product Thirst: Toto Bidet
  • “I'm actually in a throuple with Mike, myself, and our new Toto bidet.”
  • “I am a completely useless butt baby, just like you.” (72:26)
  • Joyfully details the “adventures” of discovering random bidet buttons with her husband (74:55).
  • “We are both horny little teenagers for this thing.” (75:21)

Kulap’s Crushes

• Jonathan Bailey (Bridgerton, Wicked)
  • “He can play a dick. He can be... so adoring. His face, his body, his attitude.” (55:14)
  • Admits: many are gay (“the majority of them will be gay”). (53:56)
• Pedro Pascal
  • “He’s so funny, so fashionable... He was wearing, you know, his little skin, slutty glasses, thigh high boots... a dandy lumberjack. He’s so hot.” (56:34)
• Lee Pace
  • Tall, handsome, amazing actor (“probably British”). “Just wonderful… gay.” (58:56)
• Shohei Ohtani (Dodgers)
  • “The young man who will probably end up being the greatest baseball player alive.” (76:07)
  • “Tall, thick, funny, sweet… that booty on that boy just leads to a python thigh.” (77:01)
• Notable Pattern:
  • “If I were to expand it to a top ten... the majority of them would be gay.”

Shared Crushes & Reflections

• Michael B. Jordan
  • “Universal. He’s the stamp—the USA stamp.” (70:08)
  • Both agree he perfectly mixes intelligence, danger, and “buttered up” body.
• Rascal/Boy Energy
  • Kulap: “My type is pretty clear—rascal, like somebody who's gonna… do pranks, middle aged, riding around in electric bikes together.” (76:12)
• On Dating Gay Men and Friendship (59:03)
  • SuChin: “That’s a rite of passage for a New Yorker.”
  • Kulap: “When you got jugs like mine, you're gonna get motorboated by everybody. In that way, I’m such an ally.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We’re just horny little aunties that just want to talk about all the shit we’re into. That’s it.” — SuChin (07:51)
• “We have no designs on getting advertisers. It's going to be more, I don't know. Unhinged… deranged, freer… This is controlled chaos.” — SuChin (10:33)
• “You're not gonna sit down with us and feel like you've been depleted. No. That's not the type of aunties we are.” — Kulap (10:11)
• On jettisoning productivity: “What I'm asking you to do is be more incompetent. Be less productive. Say statements and make promises that you will never ever follow through on.” — SuChin (36:00)
• On “middle age crushes”: “Today, let’s get back to… crushes. Where this discussion goes, who knows?... No, that was going to be the subtle subtext.” — Kulap (41:53)
• On parenting: “At what point do I let my daughter know that I'm Korean?” — SuChin (16:14)
• “What is it about a man with a dainty gold chain that raises me from the dead?... the gold necklace, it's never done me good or right good.” — SuChin (49:23)
• “He's just so cool and lovable and hot… that's the three-layer sponge cake we all want to eat.” — SuChin on Shohei Ohtani (78:12)

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Upcoming Episodes and Final Thoughts

(36:22, 38:27, 78:19)

• New holiday episodes are coming (“Sue is going to lead.”)
• Earlier Patreon/exclusive episodes will now be released for all (“We’re not going to waste it… it’s still good.”)
• Listeners are encouraged to follow on Instagram (@addtocartpod), add their emails at Add to Cart World, and comment with their own crushes or reactions.

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Episode Structure & Tone

• Language & Tone: Warm, riotous, frequently self-deprecating and raunchy, with explicit references and inside jokes—always inclusive, never mean-spirited.
• Structure: Dialogue-heavy, digression-prone, looping repeatedly to the joys of shared obsession.
• Listeners are reminded: Don’t expect regularity, structure, or a commercial product. What you will get is honesty, abundant product recommendations, and auntie-chaos energy.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This episode epitomizes Add to Cart’s best features: deep friendship, TMI beauty recs, genuine cultural critique, and absolute candor about everything from bidet buttons to celebrity thirst traps. If you want straight lines and easy answers, this isn’t your pod… but if you crave the pure chemistry of aunties loose in the wild, this “New Even Looser Era” will have you wishing you could add more than products to your cart.

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Next up: Holiday shopping, Italian bungee cords, and much more auntie chaos—exactly when you least expect it.

Transcript

[Suchin Pak]

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[Culat Vilaisak]

It is the return of add to cart. I am your prodigal, prodigal, prodigal auntie. Cool up vilay sock.

[Suchin Pak]

And I am flying high, literally and figuratively because both of us are manning this plane solo with zero training. No manual in the plane to even refer to. This is true independent flying in the air.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Sujin, you don't. Sorry Suchin Pak. Of course you don't think doing a podcast for almost six years there was any training.

[Suchin Pak]

No, not that. None that really got in there.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Copy that.

[Suchin Pak]

I mean there is some muscle memory but if I were to try to explain what that is doing to achieve what end what cord is connected to what and if I unplugged this.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Or.

[Suchin Pak]

Or. You know how many AD breaks we were just taught? I can't explain it, but like a trained monkey, I can just go to my training, but I cannot explain why I do.

[Culat Vilaisak]

You move the lever and you get a treat. That's what it is. Wait, you hit that lever and you get buzzed. You get shocked. Like, that's all we can do, is sort of these base.

[Suchin Pak]

Rats in a cage. Yeah, rats in a cage. Clicking on an electrocuted lever for a treat. That's it. This is where we are. And now it's just us.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's just us.

[Suchin Pak]

And the Carters know it because they're like, where the fuck have you been? And you're coming on now?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah.

[Suchin Pak]

With no fanfare, no announcement, no pre. No, we're just coming on.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We're slipping back in.

[Suchin Pak]

Slipping back in. Hoping that you in the dark, hoping that you never saw us really leave, that you're delighted to see us here and you don't question our presence. Is that too much to ask after five years?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Things that the cardist and sue have missed out, basically missed out on since last we were on mic, you know, we haven't even gotten into this household. K Pop Demon Hunters, like, full obsession. I have come in and out of a popmart obsession. Like, there are so many things your.

[Suchin Pak]

Colors have changed my. You have literally changed everything that is you. I've seen it in real time.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I've seen it. I went to a pregnant Korean woman who changed the course of my life by letting me know, under no false pretenses, that I am a deep autumn. And of course, that is my entire personality. And of course, I had to add to cart to fulfill my life's work, my new lifestyle. Yes, that happened. Oh, no. You froze. Why?

[Suchin Pak]

Oh, is it me? Is you lost the kulak or did you lose me? She is frozen. But I could be frozen to her. We are experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by. I mean, for you to just fall off the face of the zoom and this recording in the middle of our most chaotic introduction to what this is, is right. It's like we script it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

You can't write that.

[Suchin Pak]

It's like we script it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay?

[Suchin Pak]

And I would like to officially make a pitch for title of it. Okay, I will hear it now for title event. Quick little context. Before we got on this call, Khu said, you know, let's just kind of go over what our schedule could be. If you could scroll down to the tab that says new, even looser era.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And we're not talking about our vaginal floors?

[Suchin Pak]

No, because that's not new. And I scroll down, we have this, like, master worksheet that we work off of. It has everything on there, you know, past episodes, products. I mean, you name it, it is the flying manual. And then I scroll all the way down to the bottom where producer Koo has created a new little section, just a tiny section, and she's titled it in the Excel spreadsheet. New, even looser era, title of love.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Hard to believe title. Hard to believe. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Absolutely.

[Suchin Pak]

So why are we back?

[Culat Vilaisak]

What a great question, Sue. And I think maybe top of mind for anyone who has made it thus far.

[Suchin Pak]

You know what the thing is, and this is true, because we are no longer doing this other than for the pure enjoyment of Koo and I sitting down. It really has boiled down truly to that. We could be the only podcast in the entire landscape globally, where we are truly doing this because you and I just want to sit down and catch up.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We've given up on commerce, we've given up on a business, on capitalism in regards to this podcast.

[Suchin Pak]

And yet we sit here once again, here we go, pushing the red button. Why?

[Culat Vilaisak]

And I.

[Suchin Pak]

Why?

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's what? Why?

[Suchin Pak]

Why?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Tell me why.

[Suchin Pak]

Because we are two horny little aunties that just want to talk about all the shit that we're into. That's it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's it.

[Suchin Pak]

And so what I want to say is if you are still here, you're pure.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We're pure.

[Suchin Pak]

You're pure heart. You hold the white flame.

[Culat Vilaisak]

White master race. I mean, no. Oh.

[Suchin Pak]

I meant in sort of like the hobbit land, fairy tale. White flame.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Got it. Pure flame. Got it.

[Suchin Pak]

Yes, yes. All the stock of purity. You're right. God. God. Thank God. Thank God. We're really not on anyone's radar anymore as it should have been from the get go.

[Culat Vilaisak]

From the get go.

[Suchin Pak]

From the get go.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I mean, we were propelled into.

[Suchin Pak]

It was permanent and we were compelled to be entrepreneurs, business women.

[Culat Vilaisak]

But the second, almost the second that we decided to officially have an LLC is when it all came down, we.

[Suchin Pak]

Said, I'm not interested.

[Culat Vilaisak]

When we decided to call ourselves Aunties Unlimited, and then realized how very limited we both were. And the irony, of course, not lost on anybody.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, we've given that up and we are now here. This is the purest virginal form of add to cart.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's right. You can become a virgin again, folks. So what does it mean to be back? Well, surprise, surprise.

[Suchin Pak]

It won't be weekly. Surprise, surprise. We Won't be doing weekly. It will not be monthly. I mean, we may drop two one month and then you won't hear from us for a while.

[Culat Vilaisak]

But won't it be nice for us to arrive to your home via your phone unannounced? Yeah, nice.

[Suchin Pak]

Has aunties should uninvited? Yes. Knocking on your front door when you're least expect it. At first you're like, it's not a great time. And then when you see the bounty of gifts we've brought in our wagon, you're like, God damn, I've missed you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, we'll never take from you. That's not the type of aunties we are. You're not gonna sit down with us and feel like, you know, you've been depleted. No, we're not. We don't have any expectations. No, no, no, no. That's not who we are. Yeah, we're going to come with an abundance of product links still.

[Suchin Pak]

Television shows.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Television shows, all of that stuff is going to be the same. But now because again, we have no, no designs and getting like advertisers. It's going to be. It's going to be more, I don't know, unhinged.

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, deranged, Freer. I'm bummed that we used those words before. It's true. Because now it's lost its true meaning. I mean, this is. This is controlled chaos.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And the controlled is lowercase.

[Suchin Pak]

Like chaos is this capital gold.

[Culat Vilaisak]

There's an anarchy symbol.

[Suchin Pak]

You get it?

[Culat Vilaisak]

You get it.

[Suchin Pak]

Merch coming. It won't be coming.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, it's not coming.

[Suchin Pak]

How will you ever know if in the future we will get our shit together? Hundreds of people, hundreds of Carters have dropped their email and said, whatever you're on, what ride you're on, take me with you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay?

[Suchin Pak]

And I say again and again, go. To add to Cart World, we put up a free website that my brother, thanks to your brother, slapped up in about an hour. We are collecting your emails because there is a world in the future, perhaps in another universe, when we're going to be working on something that is massive, more permanent and more regular. And you want to be the first to know about it. Now, in the meantime, what do you think it is?

[Culat Vilaisak]

In the meantime, do you have any ideas? Do you or.

[Suchin Pak]

I'm gonna.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I'm gonna tell you that my mind right now is a whiteboard. But I'm just curious if.

[Suchin Pak]

Do you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Do you have any inklings or even a hazy vision? I'm not looking for.

[Suchin Pak]

I know what it's not going to be listening. What is not gonna be a substack.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, we did sign up for it though.

[Suchin Pak]

But yeah, I know it's not gonna be Patreon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know that. So what we're doing right now in this phase is knowing what we're not gonna do. But what I have to say to you now in the least the motivation for you to drop that email in there, besides the fact that you wanna be on this crazy, chaotic train ride with us, is Ku and I sometimes, at least I do sometimes I like to just scroll on there and be like, oh my God, look at these wonderful people who have so much faith and belief that we may actually one day do something. It's so validating.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, I can't say that I've done that. Suchin.

[Suchin Pak]

It's so validating. You should do it. You should do it on a day when you feel like, damn, you know, like, what is this all for? Why does it matter?

[Culat Vilaisak]

I'll read aloud each email and say, bless them. Bless them. Bless them for their hope.

[Suchin Pak]

And I promise you, your light will shine brighter. I promise you. Coo.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, well, I'm always looking for that to happen, you know, it's so beautiful.

[Suchin Pak]

So the website is add to Cart World.

[Culat Vilaisak]

You know, it's funny that you bring up a Patreon cause we're gonna kick it to an episode. We, when we first recorded was intended to be behind the paywall thing. And I think you guys are gonna enjoy whatever in our minds. As young women months ago, we thought this Patreon was going to be. It'll prepare you, it'll set the table for what this is going forward.

[Suchin Pak]

To be honest, I can't even remember what I remember us recording and I remember the episode and I remember the topic. So I'm excited to listen. Let's just let me tell you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I.

[Suchin Pak]

Am not only on the mic, but I'm on the headphones. I'm not only only flying the plane, but I'm also buying the ticket. If that makes sense to you. Again, affirmation. You are in the right place. All systems go. The universe giving you green flags. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if this is a self help?

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, I cannot imagine if it was how many then truly the patients are running the asylum.

[Suchin Pak]

The patients are running the asylum. Oh God.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, I cannot imagine. I cannot. That's what Emi says. She everything is. I cannot. Oh, it's like a screed.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh my goodness. I cannot, I cannot.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I cannot.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh God. Starting from there. Woof.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's like.

[Suchin Pak]

Wow, okay, you're in for it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Uh huh.

[Suchin Pak]

Now. I mean, I always knew that she would. My kids would get to that teenage phase. By the way, Kai is not here. I'm not trying to say one is better than the other and I'm not saying that I love one more than the other, but what I'm saying, those are more advanced. Kai is not there. Kai is still. Say goodnight. He holds my hand. I'm like, oh, do you want to hold my hand still? Yep. Wants to hold my hand. Soe, what are you wearing? Mom at pickup. I'm like, they're shorts. Don't ever wear those. I'm like, wow.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Wow.

[Suchin Pak]

The other day. I won't ever share this text thread with one of my girlfriends. And she's Korean. I don't know if this will mean something to a lot of listeners. I know you'll get it. I say, at what point do I let my daughter know that I'm Korean? At what point do I pull the wig back?

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's right, pull the wig back. Pull the wool from her eyes, Let her know what her ethnic lineage is. At what point does AKA the shit hit the fan?

[Suchin Pak]

In her 11 years alive, she's only known once.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Caucasian.

[Suchin Pak]

Suchin.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Caucasian coded.

[Suchin Pak]

Right?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Suchin.

[Suchin Pak]

American flag. American flag.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Betty Crocker. Suj.

[Suchin Pak]

Betty Crocker. Apple pie. Soojin.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah. She doesn't know. She doesn't know where you come from. She doesn't know the streets. Yes.

[Suchin Pak]

So I just. And we both like this. We send these texts every once in a while because she also has a daughter exactly the same age and that's our code. And we say do is it today that I let my child know I'm Korean?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Is it today?

[Suchin Pak]

And it's not. She's too young.

[Culat Vilaisak]

But wow, that's a lot of care. And I, you know, honestly, I'm glad that we're on the record about that. I would almost ask Toni to clip that for you. So when it does come down, I'm gonna say around 13 that you'll have this as proof, as a bit of a paper trail of how much you kept it from her. Mindfully. Mindfully. When you of course, blackout and unleash.

[Suchin Pak]

You guys know many of you sitting there. Understand.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, sue, before we punt to a truly. It's it. It's very funny, sue, but why we just decided to have this topic to talk about. This topic.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah. Didn't you listen to this very recently.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And you loved it. I did love it.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh God, this is going to be great. Tell them the topic.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, the topic is our middle age crushes. And it's just. I just. I wonder about us, you know? I wonder, are we okay?

[Suchin Pak]

I can't wait. Because the thought in this moment right now, sitting here, that I once had a crush on something, I mean, it's a delight.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I'm glad that you say something. Yours is a collection of someone's and a something.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, that tracks. That makes sense. But before we get to that, I was like. And we were of the same mind because I texted this morning and I said, honey, we gotta give our thirstiest Carters just a little. A little add to cart, old school style. And we both agreed. Yeah, like, we can't just, like, go into this. This episode without just dropping what has been in your cart recently. I just. We haven't done this in so long. I'm so excited.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, you're so excited because, you know, the thirstiest of anyone is us. These aunties that have been sitting on these products that we want to talk about more than anything.

[Suchin Pak]

To circle back again.

[Culat Vilaisak]

To circle back.

[Suchin Pak]

To circle back. What are we doing this for? The purest form. The purest form. Because I just wanna know what she's getting into. And yes, we've been texting, yes, we've been calling. We've had a zoom even, but it's not the same.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's not the same. It's not the same.

[Suchin Pak]

It's not steady. Check in. Yeah, I don't get the full juice. You know, I don't get all the different layers of flavors for some reason, unless I say sit behind this mic with you and have you hostage for an hour or so.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, sue here. I got a couple hero products that I think a lot of our listeners will be into. So I am thrilled to be bringing these to you. I got my colors done in K town, and it was amazing experience. And she not only told me that, again, I am a daughter. Deep autumn, a deep autumn who can't wear navy or white, which is a big chunk of my wardrobe. But she not only described wardrobe, we went into makeup, we went into different shades. And she got me further into, like, K beauty. And so I've been in a realm of loving, getting back into skincare, falling back in love with makeup. So that's kind of what my little quickie add to carts are.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And through her, because there was only one place I could get one product, I have become an Olive Young. An Olive Young shopper. Add to Carter Olive Young's Number one moisturizer is this what I'm going to share right now to you, Suchin. It's the Estura ADO barrier 365 cream. Okay? This is their number one. And this is for.

[Suchin Pak]

This is.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's. It's the time babies. It's.

[Suchin Pak]

We.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It is fall into winter and you got that dry skin365. This is the one. It is unscented, the faintest. If there is so faint. So faint. If there is even a scent and it goes on light, it is a game changer.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, I know it's a game changer because, I mean, I've heard of this. I have a sample right now unopened in my bathroom. Waiting for where?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Why are you waiting? What is the.

[Suchin Pak]

Well, I'm wait, because I'm gonna take it on my trip. Trip on it, because it's on a. It's in a little thing, so I can't wait to use it on my trip.

[Culat Vilaisak]

My second thing is we're doing quickies, right? Well, it kind of is related because I am on TikTok a lot. It's. These are my stories now. It's like less Instagram and more TikTok. I learned so much in. In about so many things. And when I'm on my, like, skin talk, the moisturizer came up a lot. So I saw it multiple times before. I was like, you know what? Let me try it. That's how I got. All my Pop Mart stuff is like, they're the various Pop Mart TikToks. That's how I got. Now everything is easy to get. But I would buy things during their TikTok lives. If my friends need things for their kids, Auntie Cuckoo can get it for them. That's what I have.

[Suchin Pak]

You've become the TikTok dealer? Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yes. And I don't even do it for a markup. This is just like. That's like my purity. Pure.

[Suchin Pak]

We're pure.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Pure. I'm so pure.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

So along those lines, I've been being served by various influencers who are trying to get, like, commission a C brand, a Chinese brand of cosmetics called Judy Doll. Okay, sue, are you familiar with Judy Doll? Here's what I like about Judy Doll. Again, Chinese brand. These are prices that are drugstore prices, okay? These are your CVS, your Walgreens products, and when you purchase from TikTok. Now, I have links here, and we're going to share links. Wait, are we sharing links? I don't know. Hmm.

[Suchin Pak]

That's.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We'll tag Them, we'll tag them, rewind.

[Suchin Pak]

And listen and take notes like a normal human being. Before you were fed everything. Spoon fed by a team. You're gonna have to work a little on this version, okay? And it's not even that much. Okay. Just work a little with us.

[Culat Vilaisak]

There is a possibility that Suchin will put it in the description of this episode. Maybe.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I don't know.

[Suchin Pak]

I'll do that. I don't know where that. How to put that up.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, that's for Tony to do. That's not for us. But maybe we put in a production doc.

[Suchin Pak]

Tony, our engineer, our master wizard of Oz behind the curtain. He's got so much. He's holding the whole thing. He's holding the whole thing.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Look, I have the intention of linking it and you finding it.

[Suchin Pak]

And I have the intention of putting it up and you finding it. Now you know where good intentions for us have gotten us here. Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

In this beautiful pure tent. Nowhere was I okay, Judy doll Sucha. They have this curling iron mascara.

[Suchin Pak]

What is that even? What does that even mean?

[Culat Vilaisak]

All I can. Here's the quickest way to explain it to you is that you and I love that mascara. The only mascara that we like would stand by is called. What, Sue? What's it called? The blue.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, the blue bottle.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah. What's it called, Sue?

[Suchin Pak]

I don't remember. But it's that blue bottle.

[Culat Vilaisak]

You don't need to remember anymore because this replaces that and it's cheaper.

[Suchin Pak]

And you're telling me that this does not flake run flake smudge.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yes, yes, that is what I'm saying.

[Suchin Pak]

That does not.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And that's why I bring it to you. Suchin. Not only does it not do those things that you say it curls, but.

[Suchin Pak]

How does it curl?

[Culat Vilaisak]

I'm sure through some sort of slave labor like. But it does.

[Suchin Pak]

Does the wand heat up?

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, but the wand is metal and it's got grooves in.

[Suchin Pak]

It actually curls.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yes, yes, it curls.

[Suchin Pak]

Cannot beefs fast enough.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And lengthens.

[Suchin Pak]

I cannot wait. It says free shipping over 59. I need more links to get me to 59. Will you send them to me later?

[Culat Vilaisak]

But also I implore you to go on Tik tok.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh no, sorry.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Can. Well, I'm sorry. Don't you want to save money?

[Suchin Pak]

I. Why wouldn't I go on TikTok and save my more money, less money and get free shipping.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Get discount and get free shipping.

[Suchin Pak]

Here's my pitch to you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Do you want me to buy it for you?

[Suchin Pak]

I'll buy for you. For me? I'll bet I will Venmo you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And the next time you're going to have to Venmo me like this will be 12 bucks max, when it's all said and done.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, I'm not going to force the listeners to walk through TikTok and how you get that, but I want that tutorial later. Okay?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Actually, it's better that you aren't on TikTok because the ease in which you purchase things and how fast it happens, it's faster than Amazon. It's faster. And then it comes so quick, and it's like. It is like a drug.

[Suchin Pak]

That is.

[Culat Vilaisak]

When I was in my. When I was in my pop mart mode, it was wild. And that's how I got a $300 massive labubu, which I do not regret. But I was sweating afterwards because I felt like there was a gun to my head because there was a timer and so little stock. That's how they got you. That's how they got me. That's how they got me.

[Suchin Pak]

Anyway, these Asians, they don't f around.

[Culat Vilaisak]

They know. They know.

[Suchin Pak]

They don't ever around.

[Culat Vilaisak]

The Chinese don't fuck around.

[Suchin Pak]

No, no, they don't fuck around. They invented it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Anything. But, Sue, I'm telling you that this is it. And it's a better price. Okay. No, I believe I'm just throwing it out there. I purchased it in brown because, again, that's what a deep autumn will do. That's what I want.

[Suchin Pak]

And the brown works.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Brown looks so good on me, but I've got some blacks coming, too.

[Suchin Pak]

Just because.

[Culat Vilaisak]

All right, now that I know it works.

[Suchin Pak]

Yep. Now you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I'll also get it in black.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And when I tell you, this wand, sue, this wand, this metal wand with grooves, the application, the. It's just. It's. It's outstanding. Outstanding.

[Suchin Pak]

Game changers. Game changers. Game changers. Okay. Okay. I got two quick ones, and I didn't know yours were going to be in the beauty category, so I guess this is where we're at.

[Culat Vilaisak]

This is who we are.

[Suchin Pak]

I'm going to start with the Violette. Now, Violet is a makeup brand that I have been obsessively following since its launch. I sent KOO one year, many years ago, a bunch of their stuff. Now, just in anti. Sue fashion, I, following. Following, have never purchased myself.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's just so wild. It's just never.

[Suchin Pak]

Because I just. I couldn't. It's like, a little bit expensive and, like, I couldn't try it on. So, like, what shade? And so I scratched that itch by buying stuff for Culotte from Violet. And then I got the notification that they're now at Sephora. Wow.

[Culat Vilaisak]

So that means she can go in. That means she can try out my annual trip to.

[Suchin Pak]

I never go into Sephora. That place stresses me out. So I go in there with just the sole purpose of swatching every single violet product, you know, that they have there. And I walked out with a few things. But this thing, the Violette Lip Nectar gloss, which is also a stain.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay.

[Suchin Pak]

Now how does it work? It goes on like a gloss.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay.

[Suchin Pak]

And then as you eat, as you talk, and the gloss sort of like naturally, because no gloss is going to stay on forever.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I mean, maybe there.

[Suchin Pak]

There's technology out there that. That happens. I'm not. I'm not up to date on that. It leaves a beautiful lip stain. Really? I tried that stupid lip peel off thing.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That was viral. I was curious about that.

[Suchin Pak]

Terrible, Terrible. And a lot of work.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, yeah.

[Suchin Pak]

Who wants to do that? Who wants to put that on, let it dry for 15 minutes and then peel it off only to find that it's patchy? And now I've got this ring around my lip of brown lip liner, and I look insane. Or my lips were a little bit drier than I thought. And now I've got this patchy, flaky thing. This is a lip gloss that when the gloss naturally, over time, fades, it leaves you with a gorgeous stain. Wow. For me, these little things, your mascara, you know, a really great moisturizer that doesn't pill under your makeup, a lip gloss stain. These are little game changers for me because it's stuff that I'm constantly fussing about throughout the day. And if I don't fuss about it, or if I know, if I'm meeting someone for a quick coffee and I'm like, I've got no makeup on. Lip stain done. Yeah. That's a game changer for me. Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Wow. Okay, so I've already added to Cart the. Wait, is it sold out? No.

[Suchin Pak]

Fuck you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Wow.

[Suchin Pak]

You got to go to a Sephora and you have to swatch everything there.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I bought other things I already know.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

My lady. So I know that for me, it's going to be this rose de Mobe Moab. The warm caramel.

[Suchin Pak]

That's right. Cause now you're an autumn.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Soo Jin, please. A deep autumn.

[Suchin Pak]

I'm sorry. A deep autumn.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's different.

[Suchin Pak]

If I could read mine, my color, I would let you know, but it's it's that. Yeah, it's like a magenta pink. And I just have to say, I sat there swatching, I had a great time and I stand by what I said. I go into a Sephora with a very specific list when I do go in. And I try really hard not to get distracted. And so I can't personally speak for everything, but I am pretty damn certain that this makeup brand is the best, if not one of the top three best makeup brands out there right now. It just. She's really. I just think that it's innovative, it's modern, it's not fussy. You know, there's makeup brands out there that they're like, it's for, you know, little kids, it's for older women. This is just.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's just.

[Suchin Pak]

There's no parameters. Just is what it is. She just does it well. And I think all of her stuff is really effective. So that's all I have to say. And I love it. I have a another quick little add to cart which is good light just launched a new cleansing grinder. So it's a cleansing balm, but it has that, the twist top. Have you ever seen that? And it comes out in almost like a shaving on top.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No.

[Suchin Pak]

So you don't ever stick your finger inside of a cleansing balm. You rotate the top once. If you've got just like not a ton of makeup on. Whatever. You've just been working from home. You grind twice to get a little bit more if you've got a little bit of makeup on and then three times for, you know, if you've been out and there's tons of SPF and the stuff like that on your face. Anyway, I just love that grinding mechanism because you don't have to stick your.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Fingers in and people sometimes companies provide those, those little spoons. Bless you. Even if I somehow happen to keep it, I'm not using the little spoon. It's just.

[Suchin Pak]

That's. No, that's sweet little dainty sweetie. People with hope, like we gotta. At night, we're just trying to get through it. And I love it's a strawberry shortcake smell. And I mean by strawberry shortcake, not the dessert. Coolop. What do I mean by strawberry shortcake?

[Culat Vilaisak]

You mean the toy?

[Suchin Pak]

Is that what you say? Remember when you used to sniff that little girl's head? It's that like a little sniffer. It's a little sniffer. Ah, it smells so good. Anyway, it's a fantastic product. It's a fantastic cleansing balm and I love it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay. Wow.

[Suchin Pak]

I just saw it yesterday on sale, by the way, at Ulta. Don't know if by the time this comes out it will be. But you can get it on Good Light World or at Ulta. And that's it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

God, you guys, that's so good. That's it for our quick. Probably not so quick. Probably. Like you know what I just realized? What?

[Suchin Pak]

Is that this is the entire episode.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, that these are going to be bigger episodes going forward. Or maybe sometimes they're not going to be.

[Suchin Pak]

You know what?

[Culat Vilaisak]

I'm going to put myself in a chair right now and put myself in the corner. I need to stop trying to figure out what this is and just let it be. Why am I even trying to create some sort of packaging that makes sense? It won't. It won't ever make sense. And yet inherently it will.

[Suchin Pak]

You have to undo. Years of studying, college, years of being a productive human being. Years of working for a living. Years of fearing for your life and your livelihood. Years of attachment to productivity. Yes. Years of self worth and evaluation.

[Culat Vilaisak]

The identity of being competent is what.

[Suchin Pak]

We'Re doing here as new self help gurus.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, I thought we were saying that we weren't.

[Suchin Pak]

What I'm asking you to do is be more incompetent. Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Surrender.

[Suchin Pak]

Be less productive.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay. Okay.

[Suchin Pak]

Say statements and make promises that you will never ever follow through on.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Uh huh.

[Suchin Pak]

Blake.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Blake. Okay.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

So that being said, there are no promises. Real commitments that are being made. Other than we are gonna do a couple of fresh holiday episod episodes coming up. Sue is going to lead.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh yeah. In a few days.

[Culat Vilaisak]

In a few days. Later in. In the month, I'll be going to Solvang. Not as cool, but I'm sure I'll talk about Yule Fest.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, you gotta send me those dates. Cause Solvang is right over the hill.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Hopefully you will do a day trip and come see us. So yeah, we're gonna have a lot of things to talk about. Sujin is going to be doing a lot of shopping. It's like shopping for Christmas. But it's like.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, sue, sure. That's what I told her. I said no, no, no. We can talk about Italy in our holiday episode. Because I'm going to be quote unquote, shopping for Christmas.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, shopping for Christmas.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Because everybody on your list needs something from a random hardware store that you and Annie are going to be going into.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, when you get the bungee cords and the hooks in the mail, we can get them here. When you get Italian Made bungee cords and hooks. Yes, you can get them there, but you don't know from a picture on a 2D screen what the weight of the metal is. You don't know what the sound of the clasp is. You don't know how stretchy. How far can it stretch?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Is everything in your she shed, like, just wrapped with bungee cords. Like, the tonnage of just international purchases of bungee cords. I don't comprehend it.

[Suchin Pak]

I can't even tell you where one bungee cord is. I have a suspicion. I have a. I have an inkling it's in my giant suitcase in that front pocket.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Filled. Filled with. Bunch of.

[Suchin Pak]

Can't sell you for certain.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, so that's coming up. We have aforementioned, some previously unreleased bonus episodes that we intended to be on a Patreon feed. That, again, is not happening.

[Suchin Pak]

But you're still gonna get it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

You're still gonna get them because it's.

[Suchin Pak]

Like, yeah, we're still Asian. We got it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We're not gonna waste it.

[Suchin Pak]

No, it's a good paper towel. Just the edges are a little moist. Just tear off the center dry.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's right. So that means it's still good. So speaking of, here, after so much delay is one that absolutely should not be on any main feed. But like we said, we're independent and we are out of fucks.

[Suchin Pak]

Wait, and so now is there a commercial now?

[Culat Vilaisak]

I don't know, Suchin. Okay, there's probably a break here.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, sure.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And then, you know, then the old episode. Maybe there's a little. See, so guys, just sit back and, you know, get into the mindset of where we were. What do you think, Sue? Six months ago?

[Suchin Pak]

You don't even have to sit back and remember that. Just sit exactly where you are on the edge of your seat, clenching your toes as we talk about our middle age. Tiny droplets of moistness crushes.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, honey, I'm gonna give you a spoiler alert.

[Suchin Pak]

I don't.

[Culat Vilaisak]

They were not tiny drops.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh, really? God, I don't remember when I was that moisturized.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, no, this is not that.

[Suchin Pak]

All right, well, see, even if. I mean, I can't wait. My toes are clenched. I got a cramp in my big toe. Just holding on so tight.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Welcome, Elite Carter. Step behind the curtain. Sit with us a while here in the dark? Oh, no, it's too dark. I need more light to see. Wait, wait, wait here while we brighten the room.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, that's too bright. No, too bright. Turn it down. It's too bright.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Actually, I'm Light sensitive, too.

[Suchin Pak]

I'm trying to set a horny mood here, which means pull up. It has to be pitch black so I can't see my reflection on any surface accident.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, here's the tough thing.

[Suchin Pak]

That would ruin my mood.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, so what I think we need to do is put an additional curtain between us.

[Suchin Pak]

That's right.

[Culat Vilaisak]

So there's gonna be a curtain between the other curtain that we're describing with our.

[Suchin Pak]

You're talking about my kink, okay? And I just want you to stop, all right? Stop getting me so frothy.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, boy, oh boy. So today, sue and I are gonna talk about our celebrity crushes.

[Suchin Pak]

No, nay, not just crushes. What makes us hornay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yes, of course. I didn't know. I thought that was going to be the subtle subtext.

[Suchin Pak]

No, that's not to spread it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Huh?

[Suchin Pak]

And I mean spread it. By it, I mean our legs.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Jesus, Soojin, we know that's what you meant.

[Suchin Pak]

We're giving it up.

[Culat Vilaisak]

But today.

[Suchin Pak]

Today, let's get back to.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Today we talk about crushes. Where this discussion goes, who knows? Who knows? We shall find out as well as well. Yeah. Look, Sue, I feel like you need to start because I need.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, all right.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I want to know. And we'll take turns, okay?

[Suchin Pak]

Fine. All right.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay.

[Suchin Pak]

That's me coming out of my coffin. See, we don't even need sound effects, okay? That's cause you didn't pay for them.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Eee.

[Suchin Pak]

I said this on the main show. Perhaps I was a bit shy then to delve into it. You know what I mean? I wanted to just keep it family friendly over there, but here I can sit down with a steak knife and a machete because the main dish on the menu is the star of Baby Girl, worst movie of 2025, Mr. Harris Dick. That's his name. He was born to be a hottie, okay? His name is Harry Dick. I can't make it up. I'm not that smart. I don't have those comedic chops. Harris Dickinson, number one. Had they kept his British accent in the movie, okay, that movie would have shot straight to the top. It would have been theater only. You know, you had to pre sale tickets. I do believe that his hotness is not really understood if you have just seen the movie because he puts on an American accent and it just takes away from it. It's only when you dive into his interviews, you get a sense of his. The. The tenor, the widow in his.

[Culat Vilaisak]

He's like. He's not posh British. He is. He is. He's a skateboarder. He is.

[Suchin Pak]

You're getting. He's a bad boy.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I mean, this is.

[Suchin Pak]

I'm about to part my curtain. Keep talking like that.

[Culat Vilaisak]

This is Bay Area Suchin girl.

[Suchin Pak]

Talkin' through Bay Area straight to the Lower east side of Manhattan.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, that's right.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's right.

[Suchin Pak]

So if you haven't had the thrill of hearing his British accent, I'm gonna play a clip for you here. Have you heard Coolop, His British accent?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, yeah, I'm gonna. Because I got a clip for you as well of hair, of Harry.

[Suchin Pak]

Let's just play it together to get in the mood.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, that was improvised. That was improvised. I. I don't. I think it looks improvised, though.

[Suchin Pak]

It does.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's not some like crazy elaborate dance sequence. I'm not really doing much. It's kind of just like a kind of drunk uncle having a little boogie at a party, I think. It's not really much going on.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay. So you get a little sense of the melody in your ears. Okay. And in this clip, he's talking about the scene, if you've seen the movie, where he dances. Now, it's a controversial scene. Some people love it, some people hate it. When it came on and I saw it, I gasped. Why? It's. I mean, I don't know, like, you know, it lit up all the lights on the. On the pinball machine for me. I don't know why. Now, lest anyone get it confused, this movie is trash. And that was a weird song choice, but I love George Michael. George Michael, I know, was my, you know, middle school crush. You know, I love him so much.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I love him.

[Suchin Pak]

And so that song was a weird song choice for this movie. But for me, you know, it. Somehow this feeling erupted in me and then shared with this hottie Harry dick. I mean, it just was like I didn't understand it. My brain wasn't online.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well. Cause it wasn't about your brain.

[Suchin Pak]

No, that's what I'm saying. Like, it was. It was this, like under the magma, you know, that lava flowing that was ignited and I. Again, I don't know. This is. For me to have a middle aged horny toad, you know, my brain has to be shut off because that's the hardest, largest organ in my body that's pulsing all the time. And nothing gets past that old crappy bitch. So it's gonna really shut that down. And so I can't defend it is what I'm saying. In a court of law. I just know all my pinwheels Were spinning.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, yeah. And just to the side, I wanna say that one of my critiques of the film Baby Girl was like, people are like, oh, the music's so good. And it's like. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there are songs that we all know, like this George Michael father figure song. But to me there were such like obvious like jukebox choices. Like the most obvious.

[Suchin Pak]

That's the whole movie.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, I felt it was. I love that music. But it also the what they decided to do in those scenes was like cheesy.

[Suchin Pak]

This is the power of Harry Dickinson.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah. In spite of all the power.

[Suchin Pak]

That's what I'm saying. Because it's really hard. I am a lyrics person. For example, in a song, I don't care what the bop and the beep is. I don't care what the melody is. If the lyric is fucking stupid. I can't listen to the song. I mean, it's just nonsense. It's Ms. Rachel. I think Ms. Rachel is Lady Gaga.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Have we ever seen them together? Ever since she met a girl.

[Suchin Pak]

And it jokes on everyone. But I see you, Ms. Rachel. Cause who writes lyrics? That's right, Toni. For a two year old. But it is what it is. Is she one of the greatest singers of our generation? Yes. Was she born to be a mega star? Yes. Is she an artist? All of the above. But her music is bebop bop bop.

[Culat Vilaisak]

But I know for a fact you love the Bruno Mars song.

[Suchin Pak]

What Bruno Mars song?

[Culat Vilaisak]

The one with her and Bruno Mars.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, because those lyrics make sense. There's a story there. I could tell you the whole timeline of this couple. Where they met, you know, where they're going. They sometimes fight. There's a whole movie. There's a movie in there. It's a romance. Yeah, but I can't get with Abra, Kidnapped, Nima, Namah, you know, ooh la la goo goo, Gaga.

[Culat Vilaisak]

It's. That's what the lady in red said. Death or love tonight? I think there's also a story, I.

[Suchin Pak]

Don'T know again, that interests me. And so when I see a movie and the movie is bad, then everything, there's everyone in it is trashed for me.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I can't, can't go on. Accept, Accept. And I was thinking, I was like.

[Suchin Pak]

What is it about this basic white boy that just pins my wheels? And can I say maybe? Maybe it's once again. And we harken back to the gold necklace. Now you remember we went on and on about Paul Mescal in Normal People.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Suchin Pak]

And Hadi Muktadi. But was it just the gold necklace that he wore in that movie? I don't know. Like, would I have crushed so hard had he not worn a gold necklace? And then again, Harry Dickinson in this movie has a gold necklace. What is it about a man with a dainty gold chain that raises me from the dead? And it has gotten me into trouble. My entire 20s is a barrel of dog shit covered, wearing gold gold necklace. Ew. And my daughter may bring home one of these. And I'm gonna be like, please, fate, karma, on my knees. Take a limb. Free my line from this curse of the dainty gold necklace, your lineage. Because the gold necklace, it's never done me good or right good.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Do you ever watch Chicken Shop Date?

[Suchin Pak]

Yes, I watched his.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Did you watch?

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, boy. I've seen this one multiple times.

[Suchin Pak]

Multiple times. And so have apparently a lot of ladies because it's, you know, it's a big one. Give me a guy in a gold necklace who is gonna have deadpan sense of humor, is gonna be a dick, is going to have merciless self criticism for everything that he does. And I'm there. I'm spreading the velvet curtain. Oh, I'm letting that in backstage.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Whoa. Wow. Security. Back off. I mean, I. Wow. Sue. I'm just gonna play a little bit of this Harris Dickinson Chicken Shop Date because, you know, like, I just think.

[Suchin Pak]

You don't have to ask me.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I mean, I think it's necessary.

[Suchin Pak]

I'll try not to mouth along. I've seen it so many times.

[Culat Vilaisak]

This is actually your favorite Lady Gaga song.

[Suchin Pak]

Do you think there's a misconception that all skaters are actually boys?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, they're just trying to have a good time.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

But I wouldn't go. No, I just. There was one time I almost took my skateboard to a date and then I left it at home. I went back and was like, I should probably leave that.

[Suchin Pak]

Because you knew that I knew alarm bells were going to start ringing.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah. Yeah. Also, if you leave the date, then.

[Suchin Pak]

Are you skating while she's walking next to you?

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's a bit. Can you keep up?

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Right there. That's so hot. I gotta tell you.

[Suchin Pak]

That's so hot.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Him.

[Suchin Pak]

Him.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Off the cuff.

[Suchin Pak]

Yes. Off the cuff. Yes.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Singing a lyric.

[Suchin Pak]

Yes.

[Culat Vilaisak]

To Destiny's Child. Excuse me. Sorry. Excuse me. Sorry.

[Suchin Pak]

I see you. I see you. Harry Dickinson. Wow. Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Just. Wow.

[Suchin Pak]

So that's my first.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's simply your first and obviously corn.

[Suchin Pak]

Dog that I'm going to present for you in a bouquet of horn dogs today.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, so I think that I need to bring up. Because when you brought up George Michael, I think I realized that he's a bit of a blueprint for me. If we were to expand, I picked four gentlemen just for the sake of variety. But these are definitely probably up there for me. But if I were to expand it to like a top 10 or even a top 7, I'm going to tell you that the majority of them will be gay.

[Suchin Pak]

I just say I'm looking at your list now for the first time, and two of the four are gay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's right. And I took one. I actually had a list that one more that was gay. And I was like, we're gonna be hitting this already. I explain.

[Suchin Pak]

I need to hear. I. Okay, first of all, go to the first person and then we can talk about it in context.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, Jonathan Bailey is one. Jonathan Bailey, whom we know most recently from. From. What is it?

[Suchin Pak]

The wizard of Oz. Yes, yes.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I was trying to pull it. Yeah. What is Wicked?

[Suchin Pak]

Oh, wicked. Right, Wicked.

[Culat Vilaisak]

So he's the romantic lead in Wicked.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Of course. And he is in Bridgerton.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay. Yes, you are. You and Claire Bear, our old producer. Just Bridgerton, you guys. I'm quoting you both. You were sliding out of your chairs on that episode on the main feed. You can go back to that.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And I'm not like. It's not like I'm watching, like, it in a hard kitchen chair or like a bent wood chair to slide off a couch is meaning I'm, you know, quite frothy, slimy.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, so you have Jonathan Bailey.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, so Jonathan Bailey. Let's just talk about Jonathan Bailey. He can play a dick. He can be. He can. But then at times, he can be so adoring. And he's very charming. Like, he's this sort of Prince Charming.

[Suchin Pak]

Isn't he also a Brit. He's Brit, yeah. I know these Brits. And he's. Again, he is gay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Like, he is gay. But what a face, what a body, what an attitude. Okay. And then the other person I think you're talking about is Pedro Pascal, who has not been upfront about his sexuality.

[Suchin Pak]

No. Okay. Seems like he's doing everything but.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, he's been very supportive of his trans sibling.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, but he's not.

[Culat Vilaisak]

But, like.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Upfront about his own sexuality.

[Suchin Pak]

Got it, got it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I don't think he's been full of. But my understanding is that he is gay.

[Suchin Pak]

Yes, I think that is the consensus. Yes. So you have two gay men just Getting you all, I find.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And now I find Pedro. He's so funny, so fashionable. And I think he can play funny and drama really well. And he's just.

[Suchin Pak]

He's tall.

[Culat Vilaisak]

He's also so manly.

[Suchin Pak]

Like smart and strong.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And Pedro is so fashionable. Like, I love his fashion. Like, he's. He was wearing, you know, his little skin. Slutty, slutty glasses. His, like, yeah, of course, those are thigh high boots. And boy, does he look like just a dandy lumberjack. Like, he is so hot. My assistant for Christmas one year got me a T shirt that basically says, like, Pedro Pascal. And it's just all of his characters on the T shirt. We've all seen versions of this shirt, and mine is, I only have one of this and it's Pedro Pascal. And then Scott has, like, I think I haven't even opened. Let me get it real quick. Okay. For the second year in a row, Scott put in my Christmas stocking. Something having to do with Pedro Pascal. And this one here is a complete fan guide to Pedro Pascal.

[Suchin Pak]

That's the worst photo of him too.

[Culat Vilaisak]

On the COVID Yeah, it actually is the worst photo.

[Suchin Pak]

It looks like a sixth grade Spanish teacher.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's true. But the thing about it is, he's that too, though. Like, that's why he's everybody.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah, because he's also. He embraces the dorky side of himself. He can laugh at himself. No, he's hot.

[Culat Vilaisak]

He's so. There's just something about him. And I've loved him. When I first saw him was Game of Thrones when he, you know. Oh, look at him. This is a photo of him when he was in Game of Thrones. The roles that he plays, I just think he's just so compelling and interesting. I just think he can do it all, you know, look at these little sexy glasses. But he's just. I do like manly men. Gotta say, what's more manly than men who like men? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, I think they call that man squared.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Great.

[Suchin Pak]

And I like it.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, so the person that I removed from my list was Lee Pace. Do you know Lee Pace? Lee Pace I first knew from the show Wonderfalls, which led into Pushing Daisies. But he's just this amazing actor. I think he might be British. Tall, handsome, striking, gay.

[Suchin Pak]

Just wonderful. Now, as you say this, you know very well I've dated so many gay men.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, I don't know very well.

[Suchin Pak]

Have you never dated a gay man? No. Oh, Lord, I feel like That's a rite of passage for a New Yorker to.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Gay man. Yeah, I mean, I've. You know. No, I haven't.

[Suchin Pak]

No, I didn't.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I was never in New York.

[Suchin Pak]

Many a night when I'm sitting in a dark room with a man and realizing this man, they're gay, is gay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

But then what?

[Suchin Pak]

And then they're just in the friend zone. And then there's just someone that comes over and you listen to Jeff Buckley while doing recreational drugs.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, yeah. So you're not really dating. You mean you hooked up with gay guys? Yeah. Yeah.

[Suchin Pak]

That never gets that far. I don't know. Have I been in a full relationship with someone who could possibly be gay? No. No. I mean, Mike says he's the straightest gay man. Okay. Very, very in touch with his gay side.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah.

[Suchin Pak]

And I like that. Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Well, I feel that. Like, I mean, oh, man, have I had so much fun in West Hollywood. And when you got jugs like mine, you're gonna get motorboated by everybody. And so, you know, I've always, you know, in that way, I'm such an ally.

[Suchin Pak]

The only way. Strangers motorboating you in public.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah.

[Suchin Pak]

What?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And on dance floor.

[Suchin Pak]

Wow. That image is now seared into Miami.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Most recently in not last Miami, but the Miami before.

[Suchin Pak]

Interesting. Because you know what? It doesn't matter if they're gay or straight. Men love boobies. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That has been my experience.

[Suchin Pak]

No, my bf, he loves boobies. I make fun of him all the time. I'm like, they all had mamas. Yes. And they still want their mamas. That's right. Okay, my turn.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Who we got next?

[Suchin Pak]

Okay, my second person, again, I've mentioned before, but we're gonna dive a little deeper. I have a chapter two. Okay. And I nominate Mr. One. Charles. Charlie. Chuck Melton, of course. Okay.

[Culat Vilaisak]

As he should.

[Suchin Pak]

So here are some of my updates. Okay. I taught. I loved him when in 2021, he wrote this just gorgeous, heartwarming essay. You have to look it up. About Asian hate crime. It just made me see him beyond the hunk that he was. You know what I mean? There was depth and all of that. And so this is part two. This is why I'm still on this train. Okay, Let me bring to the court. And we've talked about this on the main show. He stars in Jenny's Love Hangover video. We've all seen that. And he comes. It's the first scene. You see him. It's Charlie. He has a Magnum PI Stash. He's got tiny diamond studded hoops and a bicep hugging black suit. And I'm done. I'm saying, I'm saying spread that sandwich and extra mayo.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I just wish in my high school, Minnesota, we had a Charlie Milton. You know what I'm saying?

[Suchin Pak]

Oh Lord, I'm glad I didn't. I don't think I would have got started in life. I think I would have just been back there.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, you would. You would be like a Jenny Han character.

[Suchin Pak]

God, I mean, Charles, he's half Korean. What?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, man.

[Suchin Pak]

Now the second update to my Charles Melton crush is that I didn't tell you this. Or maybe I did, but not long ago I volunteered and to be an extra on season two of Beef.

[Culat Vilaisak]

What? You did not tell me about this.

[Suchin Pak]

Because it was so random. A friend of mine who I knew from back in the day, she's a writer on the show, she texts me and she says, hey. And she's on Beef. And she's like, we're coming to film in Montecito. I want to have lunch with you or dinner. And I was like, great. She's like, actually, we need Korean people. Do you want to. Come on. I was like, eh. It was, you know, right down the street. I was like, I don't have anything to do. I mean, I guess. And boy, was it an interesting day in my character is that I am the silent. Because I was very specific. I was like, I cannot say a word on this. Was to be the silent assistant to one Ms. Yoon Yoo Jung. The huge, the Oscar winning, the Korean legend. Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Wow.

[Suchin Pak]

I had no idea. She said show up. I showed up. And then this was what I was doing. And I just held her purse, by the way, her actual purse, which was interesting because I had a prop purse. And then she said, no, no, no. Go get my real purse. So I held her real purse. Chairman Yoon, real purse.

[Culat Vilaisak]

The bag man next to her for 12 hours.

[Suchin Pak]

Now, I also didn't know because why would I do one bit of research or ask one follow up question? Who has time for that? That Charles Middleton was in this second season. And the scene was we were all watching Charles Melton's character on a stage give a speech and for 12 hours. So for 12 whole hours.

[Culat Vilaisak]

How did you not. I mean, you were. This is exactly why I am assuming this will come out when we announce that we have a Patreon or something like that subscribing service. You held it for this exact right moment. This is huge. I think it's a Cute. I have a reason.

[Suchin Pak]

It was just another day Montecito for me.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And then, wow.

[Suchin Pak]

So then for 12 hours, I was 5ft from Charles Melton, watching him act. I mean, that's a long time. Some would say that's a beginning, middle, end of a relationship. So I dated him, my ex.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Sounds like what you described. Dating a lot of gay men was actually about to see.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh, this relationship is probably longer than any gay relationship I was in in my 20s and that is saying a lot.

[Culat Vilaisak]

So, thoughts on up close?

[Suchin Pak]

I am of the mind and I've always been because I know from experience you never want to meet your stars. You don't.

[Culat Vilaisak]

They're always. I mean, that used to be terrible.

[Suchin Pak]

Your job, and they ruin it. You will never be able to listen to that album. You will never be able to watch that movie, that TV show. They're always terrible. And so I was like, oh, Charles Melton. Well, I guess this is it. This is our defining moment. And for 12 hours I watched this Adonis. Wow. This thick beef jerky of a man.

[Culat Vilaisak]

No, he's not jerky.

[Suchin Pak]

He's plump. This, this chewy, sinewy, godlike creature. Be kind and funny and hardworking and self deprecating.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh my.

[Suchin Pak]

The MVP of the set. You know, he was running to and from the scene, obviously getting into costume and changing out of costume. And every time he'd go by the crew, high fives. Charlie, Charles. Charlie.

[Culat Vilaisak]

See, this is how you know Charles.

[Suchin Pak]

Oh my God. Blah, blah, blah. Like, oh, wait, I have this thing for you. Remember? Just everyone, MVP of the day saying hello to everyone kind. And I just stood there holding this Oscar winning actress legend's bag, burrowing my beady little eyes into his chest.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Was there words exchanged?

[Suchin Pak]

No.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Was there glances?

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, peripheral. I mean, I'm still having to do exercises. I had to. I stretched my periphery so hard I feel like I'm. My eyeballs are all still loosey goosey. At one point he had to take his shirt off and change into another shirt. And I said, quick, James, can my eyeballs swivel this far? We shall see.

[Culat Vilaisak]

She was like an owl.

[Suchin Pak]

An owl.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Such in the owl. Wow, sue, this is titillating.

[Suchin Pak]

Goosey goosey. And it's not often very small handful of celebrities that I've loosey gooseied and directly interacted with that I could tell you are as good, if not better in person. And he's one of them.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Can you name some?

[Suchin Pak]

I think I've named some. You know, it's. Again, it's Surprise to me. Another one. What's his name? He was in Dawson's Creek.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Pacey.

[Suchin Pak]

Yes.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Josh.

[Suchin Pak]

Josh Jackson.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Josh Jackson, human being.

[Suchin Pak]

And I interviewed him at the height, you know, at the height of his fame. He had no, no reason to be nice to anyone and also no reason to be that tall. Yeah, he's.

[Culat Vilaisak]

He's like a surprise hottie to me.

[Suchin Pak]

He's a surprise hottie. That one snuck up on me. I wasn't into that because I didn't watch Dawson's Creek until I interviewed him. And I said, well, I guess Josh Jackson is on my frothy list.

[Culat Vilaisak]

He lost his house in the fires. And I forget who he was being interviewed by, what talk show it was because you just look at him, but he was so. Never seen someone so charming.

[Suchin Pak]

Talking about personal tragedy dripping with charm. Anyway, yeah, so Charles Melton. Even though I brought him up on the main feed, what you guys are getting is the. The V2. And the V2 is. Is juicy. I had a full relationship with this man. Some would say he's my ex.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah, I guess I am.

[Suchin Pak]

Yes. That was your cue to pick up.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Charles Malton, your ex boyfriend.

[Suchin Pak]

Correct. I had a 12 and a half hour relationship with this man. Best of my life. Yes. Best of my life.

[Culat Vilaisak]

All right, the next person I think is somebody we both can agree on because I think we've talked about him in the main as well, which is.

[Suchin Pak]

Michael B. Jordan, Universal.

[Culat Vilaisak]

He's the.

[Suchin Pak]

He's the stamp. The USA stamp. Forget the flag that's still up in question. Let's just put Michael B. Jordan as the American stamp.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I first saw him in. Clear eye, full hearts. Can't lose. What's the. The. The. Oh my God. Why can't I pull the. The Texas football. High school football.

[Suchin Pak]

I have no idea.

[Culat Vilaisak]

What with coach blinding blind lights like. Ah, you guys know. Anyways, so I'm then. And then I'm just, you know, it's impossible not to like see his career just get bigger and him get more ripped. Simply get more ripped. You know, Black Panther, I mean, one could say he was so riveting. Just as riveting as. As the Black Panther was as well, because he's. There's an element of danger. There's an element of danger.

[Suchin Pak]

Is it Friday Night Lights he was in.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's right. Friday Night Lights. Thank you. Not blinding lights. I apologize. Yeah, that's where I saw him first and then. Wow. He's just. He's smooth, he's intelligent, but he's also a little dangerous. I like that combo.

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, he was pretty buttered up in creed.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Yeah. Yeah, boy. Okay, do you have somebody else?

[Suchin Pak]

So my final horny rant has literally caught makooch. Okay, you'll know what I'm talking about. Coo. But you're also going to call me a hypocrite. Interesting. You're gonna throw rocks at my bare bosom.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, my God. I just looked at it.

[Suchin Pak]

I deserve it. I have fallen madly, deeply in love. I'm actually in a throuple with Mike, myself, and our new Toto bidet.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, just a reminder. When sue and I, you know, of course, we were friends before the podcast, but of course, we.

[Suchin Pak]

We.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We became officially married during, you know, five years ago, doing this podcast, and she came over to my house to take photos. It was like our.

[Suchin Pak]

Before we. Even.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Before we even began. Yeah. So we took photos, and she was over here at my house. She made fun of me.

[Suchin Pak]

I did.

[Culat Vilaisak]

She was almost. Almost upset. She wasn't upset. She just ridiculed how I wouldn't be able to survive in the wild because my vagina was too soft from the warm waters, the direct streams that was being hit. And also my butt cheeks.

[Suchin Pak]

Well, I was worried.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We were used to the heat.

[Suchin Pak]

I was also worried for you because I was at. The apocalypse is coming, and your butt cheeks have been warmed and watered for so many years. You're not going to survive out here. And now. So now I am a completely useless butt baby, just like you. Okay, we have only had this gorgeous bidet for a few days, and I am looking. I'm looking high and low for any excuse to use the toilet. So now I actually have come to embrace and find gratitude for my tiny bladder and loose pelvic floor because I get to be alone with my baby, my one true love. I don't know what any of the buttons do yet. And because I threw the instructions out and guess what? I didn't want to know, I wanted to go in there and push up some symbols. There's so many symbols, though, that make no sense. I wanted to push some buttons, and I wanted to be surprised. Like a lover with a mask, you know? Oh, wow. Like a. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, just role playing. Go ahead. What are you gonna hit with me today, Toto?

[Culat Vilaisak]

Do your worst.

[Suchin Pak]

Do your worst. And so I've been enjoying. I hit a button today, for example. I thought it was the dry fan, but it wasn't. I don't actually know what it was doing, but it was making some noises. I found the fan.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I hope you have a sense of what it was doing.

[Suchin Pak]

I don't know, it was just. I feel like it was drying the toilet bowl. I was like, girl, oh, wow. Get off your knees. You're working too hard, Toto.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, this is fancier than what I have. It sounds like.

[Suchin Pak]

So, you know, still working it out. And Mike has only pushed one button. We know what button that is.

[Culat Vilaisak]

For the butt.

[Suchin Pak]

For the butt, yeah. And so there's all these other buttons, right? There's. I think there's a, you know, button for. It looks like a woman, but like, you know, it looks more like a front backwash. And so he's been afraid because he's like.

[Culat Vilaisak]

He's like.

[Suchin Pak]

I don't know.

[Culat Vilaisak]

You know what I mean?

[Suchin Pak]

He's just a sweet little sweet pea when it comes to this. But he texted me this the other day. I screenshot it and I put it in the Google Doc. If you'll read the text here, behind the paywall.

[Culat Vilaisak]

So Mike texted you and said, I accidentally just washed my vagina. And you said, now you're not a virgin.

[Suchin Pak]

We are both horny little teenagers for this thing, okay? It has brought hope. It has brought a light humor. Every time one of us uses it, we come back and we say, you will not believe what this girl just did. You will not believe what she pulled out on a Wednesday morning.

[Culat Vilaisak]

The precision.

[Suchin Pak]

What a delight. I obviously sit here in a soup of hypocrisy.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Hypocrisy. Yeah. Yeah, you do.

[Suchin Pak]

But, you know, I sit delighted you.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Allowed yourself this pleasure, these pleasures, these carnal pleasures.

[Suchin Pak]

All right, so that's my final.

[Culat Vilaisak]

I mean, that's. Wow, that's wonderful. I sit smugly across from you, and we'll quickly end with this. My final middle aged crush is for the young man who will probably end up being the greatest baseball player alive, Mr. Shohei Ohtani. And we go to Dodger games every year. We are proud Angelenos. I'm not like, really big into baseball, but, like, going to the stadium is such a fun time. And when Shohei joined us, I was like, gotta. I gotta get some merch. I have like three Shohei articles of clothing.

[Suchin Pak]

The fan magazine is coming for Christmas this year. I hope he is tall. Like, he's tall, thick, he's funny, and he's sweet.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, gosh. And like that booty on that boy. The booty on that boy just leads.

[Suchin Pak]

To a python thigh.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Oh, thick thighs.

[Suchin Pak]

Love that.

[Culat Vilaisak]

His wife is like a basketball player. And like, she seems super cool. And like, I love boy energy too. Like, because I have boy energy. And so the way that he and his teammates makes sense. Like, why you like, I like, I think my type is pretty clear. Like, I need this sort of rascal. Rascal. Like somebody who's gonna like, you know, I mean, like, if you guys don't.

[Suchin Pak]

All by the pandemic. Your male friends are rascals. That's every last one of them.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Every last one of them are. We're doing pranks.

[Suchin Pak]

Okay?

[Culat Vilaisak]

We are middle aged. We're doing pranks. We're riding around in electric bikes together. Like, that's. We're, you know, Huebel. We're pranking Hubel. But you know what? In the end of the day, Hubel's in on the prank.

[Suchin Pak]

Like, we're pranking each other.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Like, that's.

[Suchin Pak]

Yeah.

[Culat Vilaisak]

So Shohei is just like, he's an amazing player and he's just so cool and lovable and hot.

[Suchin Pak]

I mean, that's hot. That's the cake there. That's the three layer sponge cake that we all want to eat.

[Culat Vilaisak]

That's right. I'll take two slices, please. Actually leave the entire cake in front of me. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you so much. And believe it or not, that's our show. There is no denying it.

[Suchin Pak]

You can do a lot of things. You can do a lot of things with your day now. You can go make a meal, you can jump up and down, but what you can't do is deny what just happened.

[Culat Vilaisak]

And it did happen to you.

[Suchin Pak]

So head on over to our Instagram account, which I feel good about where we're at with that. It's okay. Add to Cart Pod. That's our Instagram. And also to Cart World where you're gonna put your email there so that you can give us little boosts of self esteem and hope in our darkest hour. And that's it. That's all I can promise.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We're gonna put pictures of our crushes and the things we talked about.

[Suchin Pak]

I wanted to say that and then I was like, but are we.

[Culat Vilaisak]

We will.

[Suchin Pak]

We will.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay. I think we will. Okay. And we want you to let us know in the comments how you thought this episode went and let us know who your middle aged crushes are or whatever age you're at, whatever phase of.

[Suchin Pak]

Life you find yourself in this new, even looser era. How this tickled your tonsils.

[Culat Vilaisak]

Okay, bye.

[Suchin Pak]

Atikart is an auntie's unlimited production executive Producers are Culat, Vilaisak and Sujinpak. Tony Williams is our engineer. The music is by Wasabi and produced by LA Made it and oh so familiar with additional music by APM Music. Be sure to check out all the items mentioned today on our Instagram at. Add to Cart Pod Follow Add to Cart wherever you get your podcasts.