The Dad They Run To, Not From

Summary

All Pro Dad Podcast

Episode: The Dad They Run To, Not From

Date: July 7, 2025
Hosts: Ted Lowe & Bobby Lewis

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Ted Lowe and Bobby Lewis explore the challenge and opportunity of being the kind of father that children run to, not from. Using both humor and honesty, the hosts discuss how a dad’s physical presence—often literally being the biggest person in the room—can make a huge emotional impact. They break down practical ways dads can be approachable and safe for their kids by focusing on calmness, affection, safety, and true strength. The episode is rich with stories, advice, and candid moments, guiding dads to build better, stronger bonds with their children.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Intimidating Presence of Dad

• Visualizing “Giant” Dad
  • Ted kicks off with a discussion about physical size, comparing the height differences between dads and kids, and how that shapes kids’ perceptions of dad as a "giant" figure—both literally and metaphorically.
  • Quote:

    "For a little bit of perspective, it would be like your boss being seven four."
    — Ted (02:34)

• Impact on Dependency and Control
  • Kids depend on dads for everything, making the "giant" an inherently powerful presence whose actions matter even more.

Timestamp: 02:03–03:14

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2. How to Be an Approachable Father: Four Pro Dad Traits

A. Be Calm

• Why Calm Matters:
  • Reacting with calmness rather than volume or anger teaches kids security and emotional regulation. When dads are the biggest and the loudest, it can be truly frightening to kids.
  • Tip:
    • Get down on your child’s level, maintain eye contact, and where possible, whisper corrections to save dignity.
  • Quote:

    “If you combine big and loud, that can be scary.”
    — Bobby (04:27)

  • Modeling Calm:
    • Recounting stories where calm gestures minimize fear and maximize listening.

Timestamp: 03:58–05:57

B. Be Affectionate

• Physical Affection as Bond-Building:
  • Dads’ hugs, wrestling, bedtime kisses, and long embraces matter, even as kids get older.
  • Bobby shares family rituals like “three kisses on the forehead” and how his teenage daughter now expects—and values—long hugs.
  • Quote:

    “Our kids need to know that we love them. And affection is one way that we can show that.”
    — Bobby (09:30)

  • Generational Impact:
    • A comedian’s story illustrates the hurt of not receiving affection, and how this need resonates deeply with listeners/readers.
  • Adapting to Changing Needs:
    • As daughters grow, affection adjusts, but communication remains essential—ask what feels right.

Timestamp: 05:57–10:27

C. Be Safe

• The Safe Harbor:
  • Dads need to be the first call in crisis—a flat tire, accident, or trouble. It’s about responding with calm and perspective, prioritizing the child’s wellbeing over things (like the car).
  • Ted’s story: His teenage son crashes a car and is distraught, but Ted’s calm, comforting response eases his son immediately.
  • Quote:

    “He might as well have been three feet tall... I just grabbed him. He goes, ‘I’m so sorry.’ I said, ‘Listen, buddy, they make these [cars] every day. You’re not going to get one, but they make them every day.’”
    — Ted (13:16)

• Everyday Safety Rituals:
  • From holding hands in a parking lot to providing comfort after mistakes or pain, safety is both a feeling and a set of actions.

Timestamp: 10:27–15:40

D. Be Strong

• Redefining Strength:
  • Strength isn’t just physical—true strength involves emotional steadiness, vulnerability, and being what your child needs in their moment.
  • Quote:

    “To me, it’s vulnerability and being able to get down and connect with your kids in the way they need you to connect.”
    — Bobby (17:36)

• Examples of Strength:
  • Helping a child process loss (like a family pet) differently for each child, being present with crying kids, or reassuring a teen that it’s OK to process things in their own way.
• Shielding Kids:
  • Taking on "big people problems" so kids don’t have to carry unnecessary burdens.

Timestamp: 15:40–19:57

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3. Audience Reflections & Pro Move of the Week

• Self-Examination:
  • Both hosts reflect on how these conversations challenge them to be more intentionally calm and strong fathers.
  • Quote:

    “This is their first time to be human. You’re teaching them how.”
    — Ted (20:09)

• Practical Pro Tip:
  • Pro Move of the Week:

    “Dads this week, look for an opportunity, if you have younger kids, get down on their level; if you have bigger kids, remain calm and be strong for them.”
    — Ted (20:24)

Timestamp: 19:57–20:29

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On giant dads:

  “You are still in every way a giant to them. Giant in terms of dependency…giant in terms of control.”
  — Ted (03:03)

• On affection:

  “When your kids don’t get [affection] from you, they’re gonna go get it somewhere else. And you may not like where they get it.”
  — Bobby (09:23)

• On responding to accidents:

  “He might as well have been three feet tall.”
  — Ted, about seeing his son cry at a car accident (13:16)

• On teaching emotional strength:

  “Our responses and reactions are not going to dictate theirs; they’re going to feel safer when we’re calm and strong.”
  — Ted (16:36)

• On adapting strength:

  “You can mold to what your kids need to be, and I think that’s important...It’s making sure we’re loving our kids the way they need to be loved. That’s true strength.”
  — Bobby (19:41–19:56)

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Episode Flow & Timestamps

• Physical size of dads and its effect (00:21–03:14)
• Four traits of approachable dads: Calm, Affectionate, Safe, Strong (03:14–19:57)
• Pro tip of the week & reflections (19:57–20:29)
• Closing banter and credits (20:30–end)

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Takeaway for Dads

Being the “dad they run to” isn’t about having all the answers or being perfect. It's about using your status—big or small—to be present, affectionate, safe, and emotionally strong. Get down on your kids’ level, adapt as they grow, and let them see your strength through your calm, your affection, and your open, safe heart.

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For Further Growth

• Challenge yourself to identify one area—calm, affection, safety, or strength—to intentionally practice this week.
• Share the episode with a friend who might benefit from these real, relatable dad insights.

Transcript

[A]

Warning. The following podcast is brought to you by dads who can barely remember where they put their car keys. Welcome to the allprodad podcast. Hey. Welcome to the allpro dad Podcast. My name is Ted Lowe. Today I'm joined by my buddy, Bobby Lewis.

[B]

What's going on, man?

[A]

How are you, man?

[B]

I'm good. I'm good.

[A]

We're gonna dive right in. Yeah. And I think you're gonna really resonate with this topic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who's the tallest person that you have ever met?

[B]

So when I graduated college, my first job was as a sports reporter in Lafayette, Louisiana. So I was there covering the Ragin Ca men's basketball team, University of Louisiana. And my girlfriend at the time, my wife now she came to visit me and she said, hey, I want to shadow you for the day. Let's go hang out. And so I took her to basketball practice, and she embarrassed me thoroughly because she's like 5 foot 4. She's not that tall, but she made me take a photo of her with a 6 foot 10 basketball player because she freaked out that this was the tallest person she'd ever seen. And he's probably the tallest person I've ever seen too. But she thoroughly embarrassed me. She's like, please take my photo. And she left and went back home. And I had to be with these guys at practice the next couple of months, and they're laughing and jeering at me every. Every time. Hey, you want to take a picture of me again? Like, no. But 6 foot 10, that's. That's pretty tall.

[A]

And how tall are you? Because you're the tallest person I've ever met.

[B]

Well, that's fun. I'm six foot three. Three? Yeah. I. I don't feel very tall because all those years of doing sports reporting and meeting all these different athletes, I. I just was the short guy in the room for a lot of years. But, yeah, it depends on the setting. But I. I can be kind of tall.

[A]

Yeah. Is it fun to be tall? Because I'm average?

[B]

Like, pants are hard to buy. Pants are hard to.

[A]

Pants are hard. Yeah.

[B]

They just don't fit. They're like, oh, high waters all the time. That's the hard part.

[A]

You're going to. You want some trivia, Bobby?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Because I brought this just for you. All right. Because I thought you'd love this. Did you know that the tallest living man is a Turkish man and he is 8 foot 3?

[B]

8 foot 3.

[A]

So he could put you on his hip if I.

[B]

If I stood flat footed next to him and I reached as high as I could. I might be able to touch the top of his head. That's, that's pretty tall.

[A]

He wears a 22 shoe. Golly.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Okay, so can you imagine looking up to this guy, right?

[B]

Yikes. Yeah.

[A]

And you're going, why are we, why are we bring, bringing this up? Bobby? I started thinking about this watching, you know, dads with their kids and just the power that they have. So I want you to imagine, listeners, if you have a sixth grade kid, okay. Their round average is about 4, 10. Okay. The average height for a man, it's my height, is 5, 9. So if you're a dad of a sixth grader, that means you are 23% taller than your kid. And for a little bit of perspective, it would be like your boss being seven four. Okay.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And if you have the average height, two year old. Watch this. Then it would be like your boss being 12 foot 8 inches.

[B]

Yikes. Yeah. I mean, it's intimidating sometimes when you stand around someone who's that much taller. Yeah. It can be a little scary when

[A]

you think about the size of that. Even if you've got kids that are, you know, my kids are. Two of them are taller than me. You are still in every way a giant to them. Giant in terms of dependency.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like they depend on us for everything and then giants in the sense of control and giants for a lot of us in sense of size. So what do we do with that?

[B]

Yeah, it can be, it can be intimidating, I'm sure for kids and they wouldn't probably voice that to you, but that brings us to our question of the week is how can we be an approachable father? We know we're bigger, but how can we be an approachable father? Big can be scary and we should recognize that. But we need to work on that too, because just because we think our kids love us and we hope they love us, we know they do. We're still bigger. And so we need to think about this, right?

[A]

So how do we do this? How do we leverage the fact that we're taller, bigger, more power than them? We've got to be calm, right? We got to be calm, we got to be affectionate, we got to be safe, and we got to be strong. Let's unpack that a little bit.

[B]

Yeah, those are some good traits. And we're going to go through them one by one. What's the first one?

[A]

Be calm. Be calm. You know, when our kids, when we're not calm during a time and we are Big with our response. They don't look at their behavior at all. They're looking at our behavior. So instead of looking at their own, they're looking at ours. And so they'll just focus on the reaction. And I think for kids, when we remain calm, especially bigger, more powerful when we remain calm, then they're going to be able to hear us more and respond.

[B]

Well. I think about how when you're not calm, you tend to get loud. So if you combine big and loud.

[A]

Oh, that's good point.

[B]

That can be scary, right?

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. And I think it teaches them a sense of security. You know, we want to be safe. And it models regulation of them. Like, what do you do when you get mad? You used a great example of that in a podcast about your. Your son who's emotional, said, dad, why are you so calm?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, it gives us a chance to. To model that. And one of the things I would say if you've got smaller kids, is to get down on their level.

[B]

That's a good tip. Yeah.

[A]

You know, just stoop down, get down on their level, look them in the eye. You know, eye contact's very soothing for a kid. You know, you have ADHD kids, or I'm adhd, so we don't ever make eye contact with each other, but we really give it a try. But when we do make eye contact with them, it's very powerful. And one of the things that was modeled for us by our friends is. And we would watch some of their kids where if they were doing something in public that was disrespectful or they were doing something they shouldn't, I would watch them. Hey, buddy, come here just a minute. And they would pull them to the side, and then they would whisper in their ear. Saves their dignity. But even those kind of settings where you're whispering and you're thinking people are looking at it, want to embarrass them, was very soothing to them. And I thought maybe we take that approach even when no one's watching. Yeah, right. I'm just going to be really calm. So how do we leverage our size? The fact that we're bigger? Number two is be affectionate.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I mean, the wrestling, the snuggling, the. The hugging my sons again, who are. Who are. You know, they're taller than you, bigger than me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Our whole family, we've got a little bit of weird language at our family, but I would always, when they realized, come here and give me a big hug. And so I got one son, and he's like, he is non affectionate. And they walk in the door and say, you know what time it is, it's time for a big hug. And when I'm so hug. And they'll roll their eyes, but they will also, they will still wrestle with me. Which wrestling with two young men in their twenties are you losing?

[B]

You losing them?

[A]

You'd be surprised how scrappy I am. You know, you just got that thing in your gut going, you're not going to take your dad. And last time I was like, you know what? If we do this much longer, I'm not going to be able to provide for them anymore because they're going to snap something. Like I'm going to snap something. So. But it's just that whole idea of being affectionate.

[B]

No, I love that. Yeah. We've actually started something in our house that I really have leaned pretty heavily. We've got three kids and the two younger ones share a room. And so every night now there's like this expectation from the two younger kids that they're going to get their three kisses on the forehead.

[A]

Love that.

[B]

And so I go in and it's kind of weird because they're in bunk beds, so I have to like stretch up. I have to step on one bed to get up to the top to give the three kisses. But I do it every night right on the forehead. And it makes them feel safe, it makes them feel seen. And it makes them know that like dad is here every night giving you a kiss on the forehead. And the night's not over until I do it. If I forget for some reason or like, I think they're like groggy, half asleep and I just lay them down and I walk out, I'll get a yell down the hall. You didn't blaspheme it. And kiss my forehead. I have to turn around and go back in and kiss him on the forehead. And it's a big deal because that affection, it builds bonds. Now my older daughter, she's 14 now, give or take, and she doesn't want that. But I don't give her the three kisses on the forehead, but I do give her these super long hugs like, like longer than you might expect. Like you go in for a hug with somebody, it's like, oh, it's two seconds, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, she's been holding like 12 seconds lately. And for in a little bit of a kind of a weird awkward moment, I was like, okay, how long are we gonna hold this? And then recently I started telling myself, as long as you want to?

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

I want this hug to last.

[A]

So, yeah, absolutely.

[B]

And it's. You kind of push yourself past that awkward stage. Like, you know what? Fine. I'll just. I'll hold this for 87 years if you want to, which is kind of cool. But affection, I mean, it's so important because it builds a bond. It builds a bond between you and your children, and it reminds that they can always run to you because you're a safe place. So I love that. I was actually watching videos the other day. I know you're going to like this because you're. You're a funny guy.

[A]

You.

[B]

You. When you do your public speaking, you're always telling jokes. I was listening to a comedian, and he was delivering the lines in a funny way. The crowd was laughing. They were having a good time. But he was telling the story about how he was sitting in the car with his son, and his son said, hey, dad, Grandpa gave me a hug. And the dad who apparently didn't get hugs from his dad growing up, Grandpa. He's like, tell me how that feels, because I didn't get that. I bet they're good hugs. I never got a hug at all. And so he was kind of telling jokes and laughing. He's like, please.

[A]

Just.

[B]

Was it warm? Was it nice? You know, did your arms go all the way around? He was telling this funny joke, and everyone's laughing. But I read the comments on the video, and they were heartbreaking because the comments from all the people in the crowd or just people watching the video were like, yeah, this hit really hard. Like, I cried watching this. You laughed, But I cried because I didn't get a hug from my dad either. And I just wanted a hug. And so I was. I was kind of. I was fascinated with the comments more than the actual video. It's a human need, affection. And when your kids don't get it from you, they're gonna go get it somewhere else. And you may not like where they get it.

[A]

It's very true.

[B]

Dads, we have to recognize that affection is a part of who we are as a dad. We have to give it to our kids. It provides more than just the kiss on the forehead. Yeah, that feels nice in the moment, but it provides so many more things. Our kids need to know that we love them. And affection is one way that we can show that.

[A]

Well, and dads of teenage daughters, we know that that starts to feel awkward, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Like the long hugs with my daughter.

[A]

Well, you're trying to figure that out. And I Talked to a dad whose daughter. He's kind of like, I kind of stopped because I didn't want it to be inappropriate. And she was, you know, it broke her heart. He later finds out that it's broken heart. And so we have to figure all that out.

[B]

And if you're in that situation, because I'm. I'm kind of living that right now. Communicate. Ask.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's not weird like your dad, like, you should be a safe place for them to talk. And if say, hey, was that a good hug? That was a good hug. I like that hug. And if they say yes, great. If they say, nah, it's kind of weird. Okay, then I won't do it so long next time. They'll be receptive to that for sure.

[A]

It's good. It's good. So how else do we leverage our size and our strength of our kids? We gotta be safe.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Our kids need to know that when something happens, that they can come to us without fear of reaction. And I know that is not the case for a lot of people that go, you know, I've talked to a lot of moms who will say, I try to, you know, make the house safe or calm the kids down before they talk to mom, because I don't want to have that response. We need to be the first person that our kids think of when something goes wrong, that that big guy is going to be safe.

[B]

My hope, and I mean, I'm not at this point in life yet. You're a little bit further along with your kids or older than mine. But when my kids start driving, my first hope is if they get a flat tire, I'm the one they call because they know that dad will be there and dad will help you, and that's. That's tied into safety. When they get into trouble, they just. They feel like they're not comfortable. I want. I want to be the phone call. You know, I want them to come to me because they are safe when they're around me.

[A]

Right. I mean, you know, I have so many flaws as a dad, but my kids know if something happens, they know to call me and not mom. I always feel like, you know, my brain is always, like, looking for emergencies or whatever. So when they call with an emergency, I'm like, oh, my brain's already there. Like, I can help. You know, I'm pretty good at emergencies. I've taught three of my four kids to drive, and so far, I think they've given me five opportunities to be really calm. When they've had accidents.

[B]

So you're like pushing that right foot through the floor on the passenger side, like, come on, stop.

[A]

Yeah. And they're like, hey, dad, you know we live in Atlanta area and there's been three total cars. Yeah.

[B]

I think I was gonna say, at least you live where there's no cars in Atlanta. Yeah.

[A]

State Farm loves us.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

A whole lot.

[B]

State Farm loves you. But I can't imagine that phone calls. My kids are younger, so, like, what do you do as a dad to make your kids feel safe when there's been a fender bender? When there's been an accident. How did you handle that?

[A]

Well, for me, it's a lot about perspective. If my kid calls me and said I've been in an accident and they can call me, great. I don't care about cars. And so my oldest one who was, oh my goodness, what a terrible driver he was, but the state of Georgia said he wasn't. So I was like, ah, first time dad. But he calls me and he's crying about three weeks after he gets his driver's license. And he tells me, dad, about an accident. And I said, where are you? And he tells me where he is. I said, are you okay? He goes, I'm okay. Is anyone else hurt? No one else is hurt. And I don't know what I think I'm going to drive up to, but here's what I drove up to. He has gone through a horse pasture fence. It's sitting in the middle of this pasture. And there is a police car and ambulance and a fire truck. And there he is, taller than me, crying. And when your kids are older crying, they never change the way they cry. Their faces look the same. And he might as well have been three feet tall. And so I go over there and I just grabbed. He goes, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I said, listen, buddy, they make these every day. You're not going to get one, but they make them every day. No, it is. It's just those.

[B]

You can replace a car, right?

[A]

Oh, can you replace a car? Because I know other people have got way worse phone calls. And so they know. They know. If they call and go, let me, let's walk it through. Let's, let's breathe. And they know, for whatever reason, Dad's going to be calmer here. But here's the thing. I can be calmer during those moments than the disrespectful moments or those emotional type of things. It's the thing. I have to really work on being calm when they get hurt, things like that, things that were an accident, I do pretty well.

[B]

So I want to know, when you pull up to this accident and you see your son and he's crying, how quickly did the tears dry up just by you being close to him?

[A]

I just.

[B]

Did it just change him immediately, just having you present?

[A]

Yeah. And I think as soon as he saw. I think as soon as he saw that my face was okay, then he. Then he became okay. Yeah, that he became okay.

[B]

See, that's what we're talking about. You want to be an approachable dad. Safety is something that dads have to prioritize, and you have to provide that for your kids. He just being there next to him made him know, all right, Dad's here. I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. The car's not good. I'm good. Dad's around. That's a big deal. Yeah. My daughter is younger, so she's not driving yet, or, you know, all my kids are under the age of driving, but my youngest, she grabs my hand in the parking lot, which is good, because, you know, I don't want her running out into traffic, but she knows big dad's here, got my hand. He's gonna block off all the cars. Everyone's gonna see him. We're gonna be safe. That's a special thing for me, you know, just to be walking through parking lots and know that she feels safe because I've got my hand physically on her, and we're good. I. I think that's a really cool. You know, really cool part of being a dad right now.

[A]

Right? Absolutely. And I noticed the difference between my girls and my sons in terms of what that safety would. Would mean. You know, I. I knew when my first daughter was born, she's about 2. I thought, oh, you're different. My boys, you know, hold them, and when they got older, they just started moving their legs, like, let me down, let me down, let me down. And my daughter, she's. I think I could still be holding her. She would be okay with it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's the physical nest, too, of being big for dads and their kids. I mean, I think one of my first memories ever was my dad going to the pediatrician with me, which I'm going, wow. I don't ever remember that it really happened. My mom would take us, but I hated shots. I hated. And even just getting the little finger prick or whatever. And supposedly the lady at the pediatrician was. My mom had informed my dad was a little bit more gruffy than she Needed to be. She was a little luck. So my dad goes, I got this. And he carried me back there, and I sat in his lap when I got my finger pricked, and that made all the difference. And I remember his strength to this day. And so, dad, your physicality, affection, and strength is just so huge. And the other thing I think that we can do with the fact that we're bigger, that we have so much power, is just to be strong.

[B]

Strong.

[A]

Just to be strong. And I think that strength comes from all of that, and it comes from. From being calm. And so. And it's having this sense of, hey, my responses and my reactions are not going to dictate theirs, right? They're going to feel safer when we're calm and when we're. When we're strong. Our daughter, our first one, she's such a worrier. She always has been. And when she was little, she said, well, what about this? What about this? And we would say, sweetheart, you need to know, this is a big people problem. You don't worry about this. This is a big people problem. We told her that through high school. Like, no, no, this isn't yours to worry about. This is ours to worry about. Yeah.

[B]

I think there's this weird misconception when even when you hear the word strong, the first thing you think of is, like, physically strong. Like, I got big muscles, biceps. You know, I can bench press a car, right. I'm a big guy. I'm strong. Like, there's so much more to strength, absolutely, as a dad, than just muscles.

[A]

It.

[B]

To me, it's vulnerability and being able to get down and connect with your kids in the way they need you to connect. And I know that's the case in our house because, you know, recently our dog died. We had a dog for, like, 15, 16 years. Long time. And the little dog passed away, and our three children dealt with it very differently. The two younger ones, they hit them hard. They were like, oh, man. Like, I'm gonna miss this dog. And all of the kids are of the age where they didn't live in a house without this dog. We got the dog before they were even born, so they don't know life without it. The two little kids were amaz. I mean, they were sobbing. They're, oh, what are we gonna do? I can't believe that our doggie passed away. Which, you know, like that. It's a part of the family. My older daughter did not drop a single tear. And so, interestingly enough, a week goes by, and our youngest daughter, who's in kindergarten, she came up to me. I'm sitting there at the table. I'm doing work. And she just kind of rubbed up against my arm. She said, I miss Willie. I was like, it's been a week. I haven't thought about the dog in days. Like, we did a little ceremony. We dug a hole. We did the rock and the flowers, and then we did the little backyard thing. And she was still thinking about it days later. And so the strong part of being a dad was put the computer down, get down, give you a hug, and just let her talk about it for a minute. Let her get it out. And then she was fine. She went on her day. But my older daughter, in the moment when dog passed away and we're doing the thing in the ground, the other kids are crying, she looked. She walked over to me, and she said, dad, is it okay that I'm not sad? And I said, yeah, it's totally fine that you're not sad. You don't have to cry. You don't have to perform for us. She's like, I think it's better because he was old and sick. And I was like, oh, yeah. And so in that moment, I was able to be vulnerable with the little kids who were crying. And then with the older daughter, I was able to confirm with her that you're okay. Like, you don't have to perform for us. You don't have to be anything other than what you are. You have come to the conclusion in your mind that it's okay to not cry at this moment because you recognize this was better for your dog. And so that's the strength that dads can provide. You can mold to what your kids need to be, and I think that's important. And how do we continue to be approachable as a dad?

[A]

Dad?

[B]

I think it's making sure that we're loving our kids the way they need to be loved. That's true strength. It's not just being super strong and lifting heavy things, you know, for you. You know, is this. Is this change in any way just make you think about being more approachable? This conversation?

[A]

Absolutely. And I really feel like the being calm thing, being strong, you know, because their emotions are all over the place, they're becoming humans. This is their first time to be human.

[B]

You're teaching them how.

[A]

Yeah. Calmness, strength, emotional strength, physical strength, all that so, so important. Well, that will move into our pro move of the week. Dads this week look for an opportunity, if you have younger kids, to get down on their level and if you have bigger kids, to remain calm and to be strong for them.

[B]

Awesome.

[A]

Thank you, Bobby. Yeah, man. Hey, and thank you, guys. Hey, could you send this podcast to the tallest friend that you have and the shortest and the average size. If you just pick three to send it to, this thing could sweep the nation. I love this.

[B]

Find an 8 foot 3 guy and send this to him.

[A]

It'd be great right there. They all live in Turkey. Hey, you know what? We want to say thank you. Every week, we want to say thank you for joining us. We know that you and your kids will be glad that you did. Thanks again for listening to the All Pro dad podcast. Behind every episode is our amazing team producer, Hayley Moatt, audio and video editor Buck Buford Buchanan, and production coordinator Corey Wolfe. Allprodad is the fatherhood program of the nonprofit Family first, along with our motherhood program, imom. We exist to help you love your family well. So remember, if you have more questions than answers, then you're probably in the right place. See you next time.