In today's episode, we speak to Simone. Big, bubbly, bold. She is a woman who you'd think has it all together. But the interesting thing was, Simone's life wasn't what everyone thought. She was a shell of herself after losing both her parents. She had no idea what Arise was. The book, the podcast, the membership events. But she decided it didn't matter and dove in.

This is her experience and it is a wild one.

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