Podcast Summary: Ask Lisa – Episode 257

How Do I Guide a Kid Who Only Cares About Becoming an Influencer?

Release Date: February 3, 2026
Hosts: Dr. Lisa Damour & Reena Ninan

Episode Overview

In this episode, Dr. Lisa Damour and co-host Reena Ninan tackle a challenging, all-too-modern parenting dilemma: what to do when a tween or teen seems entirely focused on becoming an influencer—at the expense of their education and real-world engagement. Responding to a heartfelt listener letter, they explore the psychology behind the influencer dream, consider neurotypical and neurodivergent perspectives, and offer science-backed strategies (and empathy) for parents concerned about disconnection from school, disrespect at home, and excessive screen time.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Influencer” Dream: Then & Now

• Observation: Interest in fame isn’t new—teens used to aspire to be rock stars; now it’s TikTok.
• Dr. Lisa: “This isn’t new, but this is the new form.” (01:35)

2. The Listener Letter & Core Crisis

Letter Snapshot:

• 13-year-old boy, 8th grade, failing classes, convinced school is useless because he’ll make a living as an influencer.
• Sees parents’ traditional jobs as “loser” choices.
• High-functioning on the autism spectrum, refuses help, well-liked by adults, has an occupational therapist.

Dr. Lisa's Initial Reaction:

• Primary Concern: Academic failure and detachment from school—not just the influencer dream itself.
• “What makes this one on fire is the fact that this kid’s shooting himself in the foot and that the school is, you know, on the verge of kicking him out. [...] This is very, very concerning.” (04:02)

3. Understanding Disengagement from School

• Critical Question:
  • Why is there nothing pulling this child toward school? Where’s the “glue”?
  • School investment often depends on “the clubs they're in or the friends they have or the teachers they actually like, even if they don’t maybe like the subject.” (05:38)
• Recommendation:
  • Parents should work to help tether the child to school through activities, clubs, or real-world connections.
  • “If you feel like my kid phones it in at school and comes home and gets on his video games and has no meaningful connection…that’s a place where a parent might start to say, there will be no video games, there will be no time online until you are going to this club...” (07:00)
• Goal: Find a “hook”—something at school he cares enough about not to want to lose. (08:17)

4. The Role of Developmental Maturity

• “He’s 13, right? If this were a 15 or 16 year old, I would be like, that’s not good, right? [...] With this kid... a little bit of it is trying to help him keep it together until he is 14 or 15, and you can start to say things to him like, listen, 18 year old you is going to be really annoyed with 14 year old you if you don’t get it together academically.” (10:42)
• 13-year-olds are concrete and often block out adult advice; experience and brain maturity tend to add perspective.

5. Setting Boundaries, Finding Leverage

• Strategy: Tie online access and privileges to academic performance.
• Quote: “If you want to look at influencers all day? Well, then you need to be actually getting passing grades in school. [...] If you can’t, then you’re going to do your homework in the kitchen until we can get this together.” (12:23)
• Leverage “wants”: “…he wants to spend time online. Other kids want to go to that concert. Other kids want to drive. There’s your leverage, right?” (14:21)

6. Dealing with Failure and “Feeling the Floor”

• Sometimes, natural consequences may be the only thing that prompts change.
• “I hate it that kids sometimes have to feel the floor. But if they’re going to feel the floor, let them feel it in middle school.” (13:28)

7. Challenges Unique to Autism Spectrum

• Persistence of Black-and-White Thinking: Developmental timeline for evolution in concrete thinking is different.
• Potential for Meltdowns: Trying to ‘make’ an autistic child comply can backfire, leading to distress and even meltdowns.
• Recommended Shift in Approach:
  • “Try to make the case that school will help with the plan that the young person has.” (18:06)
  • Link schoolwork to influencer skills: e.g., analyzing analytics (math), telling stories (English)—make it relevant to their passion.
  • Use more carrot, less stick: Offer studio time or help with a studio setup as a positive incentive for completing schoolwork.
  • “It’s not you can’t have this thing until you get the work done, but it’s like you can have this other thing once you start doing the work.” (20:50)

8. Don’t Crush the Dream—Channel It

• Use the influencer dream as motivation, not confrontation.
• “Don’t crush their dream. Like, use it as an opportunity to get them onto the right track, maybe.” (21:34 - Reena)
• Building a skill or work ethic is valuable, even if the dream shifts. Real-world skills are transferable.

9. Broader Preventative Lessons

• “This letter just underscores: it’s not just about driving the kid around. [...] You want them attached to the real world and real people in the real world and real relationships in the real world because those are valuable and growth giving and also because they help to serve as a check against situations like this one.” (23:33)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Desperate times call for desperate measures.” (02:50 – Dr. Lisa, quoting her mentor)
• “One of the things we know… kids investment in school is often not because of what’s happening in the classroom, but because of the clubs they’re in or the friends they have or the teachers they actually like.” (05:38 – Dr. Lisa)
• “If you want to look at influencers all day? Well, then you need to be actually getting passing grades in school.” (12:23 – Dr. Lisa)
• “Sometimes kids have to feel the floor, right?” (13:28 – Dr. Lisa)
• “Trying to make them do stuff…can often backfire. They can be very reactive…” (18:22 – Dr. Lisa on neurodivergent kids)
• "Don’t crush their dream…use it as an opportunity to get them onto the right track, maybe.” (21:34 – Reena)
• “I would take an overscheduled kid over a kid who’s online some ungodly number of hours a day.” (23:11 – Dr. Lisa)

Actionable Takeaways

• Find real-world anchors: Clubs, sports, volunteering, quirky interests—anything that connects your child to people and activities outside screens.
• Leverage their motivation: Tie desired privileges (especially screen time) to meeting basic obligations.
• Channel—the dream, don’t crush it: Use their passion as a way to build useful skills—writing, data analysis, self-presentation, or discipline.
• Avoid pure confrontation (esp. for autistic kids): Use incentives and frame academic tasks as steps toward their own goals.
• Accept natural consequences sometimes: If a child has to “feel the floor,” ensure they do it where the stakes are lowest—before high school if possible.

Important Timestamps

• 01:37 – Introduction to the influencer trend and listener letter
• 04:02 – Identifying the real crisis: academic collapse and disconnection
• 05:38 – The “glue” of school: social and activity anchors
• 07:00 – Tactics for building school connection
• 10:42 – Why age and maturity matter
• 12:23 – Enforcing boundaries around online time
• 13:28 – Handling consequences and “feeling the floor”
• 14:21 – Leveraging what matters to the child
• 18:06 – Adjustments for children on the autism spectrum
• 21:34 – Don’t crush, but channel their dreams
• 23:33 – Value of real-world engagement as a preventative

Parenting To Go

“You want them attached to the real world and real people in the real world and real relationships in the real world because those are valuable and growth giving and also because they help to serve as a check against situations like this one.” (23:33)

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