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Homeopathy Puts Healing Back In Your Hands
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Dr. Michelle Perro returns to share how parents can take a more active role in their child’s healing using practical, accessible tools. This episode focuses on homeopathy and why it remains one of the most misunderstood yet powerful options available to families. The secret this week is… Homeopathy Puts Healing Back In Your Hands
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It takes multiple tools that just changing your kid's diet, for example, and going organic may not be enough. It was 25 years ago, not anymore. 20 years ago might have been enough. Going organic, taking out gluten and dairy, that might have been enough. Not now. Fifteen years ago, it might have been organic gluten, dairy and a remedy, maybe not now. Five years ago, it's now. Organic gluten, dairy, remedy, herbal and a frequency therapy now, because kids are sicker. Why? Because they're being poisoned.
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If you're a parent of a child with autism, you are being called to rise with love, courage, and clarity. This journey isn't easy, and most parents aren't equipped, but you can be. This podcast is your invitation to rise higher because how you navigate matters. I'm Len, and this is Autism Parenting Secrets, where you become the parent your child needs now. Hello and welcome to the show. I am so excited about this conversation because we're diving into something that gives parents more control, more confidence, and more capability to actually help their child. Today I'm joined by Dr. Michelle Perro, a seasoned clinician with over 45 years of experience in pediatrics and integrative medicine. And she's been on the show before, but she's been on the front lines seeing what's really happening with our kids and more importantly, what actually helps them to heal and to thrive. And she's also the author of a powerful new book that was just released, Making Our Children well, which is all about giving parents a practical roadmap to take back control of their child's health. And one of the key tools we're going to focus on today is homeopathy. What is it? Why is it often very misunderstood? And how parents can actually use it at home in a safe and effective way? The secret this week is homeopathy puts healing back in your hands. Welcome, Michelle.
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Len, thank you for the intro. Such a pleasure to be here with you today.
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Wonderful. Well, again, I know you were on before, and that was a dynamite conversation, and we touched on homeopathy. And for anyone who's a longtime listener, it comes up a lot because it was a huge key component in my son's trajectory, one of the top things that really changed everything for him. So I can't talk about this topic enough, and I couldn't have been more of a skeptic early on about homeopathy. So I would love for our listeners to really hear from you about what are those key insights about this option that many people dismiss but can be so powerful?
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Certainly let Me give you a little personal story. It's not like I was blessed or downloaded with this knowledge of homeopathy. I was trained in New York City, the land of troglodytes and fashion medicine many, many, many decades ago. I had never heard of homeopathy when I came to California, where I now reside. I've been here for a long time. And I had a serendipitous encounter with an MD Homeopath when I was joining new practice, which I then actually left. But that's another story. So this my son was having, and he lets me talk about this, by the way, he was having recurrent croup. And croup is an inflammatory condition which causes kids to kind of bark like a seal, often at midnight. They sound like this, like that. And this gal, her name is Dr. Ekenze. She's. She's in my book, said, you know, Michelle, give Jesse spongiatosta. It's a homeopathic remedy. I thought this woman lost her mind. She was giving me a name in Latin. I had never heard of it. I didn't know what she was talking about. So she gives me these little sugar pills. I give them to my son Jesse. He's an itty bitty guy. And within five minutes he was better. I went and I am trained as a pediatric emergency physician. That's my background prior to my foray into environmental health. Jesse gets it again, remedies go in again. Sure enough, five minutes later, again, voila, he's better. And my reaction was not like, wow, look at that. You know, praise the Lord. Oh, my gosh. It was. I was pissed off. Maybe it's my nature. I tend to get a little bit fiery up and a little bit passionate about things. And I was righteously angry that here I was at that point, this was 30 years ago, that there was this medicine out there that I had never even heard of that could cure my son for five bucks with five little sugar pills. And I thought, this is really not happening. I went back to school at night. My kids were little. I had a practice doing the soccer mom room parent thing, as overachievers type A's do. Guilty as charged. And I learned homeopathy. But then I also began to dig deep as to why we don't know about homeopathy and why it's been excluded from the pharmacologic toolbox. You know, they are medicines, but they're not synthetic medicines. They're often made from natural substances. Not always. Not anymore. And when I discovered the history of how the truth was obfuscated about homeopathy and what happened to it historically, which we can talk about or not. It became my lifelong love and journey to get into homeopathy. Now, I didn't stand on the, I wasn't on the crossroads, the Joan of Arc of homeopathy, because I've been in GMOs and food. There are only so many crosses I can stand on at once. And I didn't want to get into that as well. But I've been a champion for homeopathy since I learned about it on that creepy night 30, 32 years ago. So there you have it. That's a little background that I too, even as a pediatrician and a seasoned pediatrician, still learning, still going forward, still bringing tools into my toolbox. And homeopathy has been the cornerstone of just about every treatment plan I've ever created for the past 30 years.
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That's amazing. That's absolutely amazing. And I was going to ask you if you went through the five stages of grief in terms of going from where you were to acceptance. But it's interesting because it sounds like your story is similar to the story that my wife Cass and I had, where once you see the impact of homeopathy, you don't need more time to become a believer. And again, it's very possible that people can go down the homeopathic route and perhaps not see any change again. And that's why working with the right homeopath and having someone who really knows what they're doing is key. But it's amazing how the people who went from one extreme to another, it does happen very rapidly indeed.
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It does. And what I try to do in the book and with my parents or whomever I'm talking about, whoever will listen because, you know, there's been this, you know, that homeopathy belongs in the, you know, juju Journal of Medicine, that this is not real medicine to demystify it, it can be practiced by anyone. It takes a little bit of knowledge, a little bit experience. I broke it down to the principles, I broke down to the history a bit. Not to overwhelm people, but just to give you the palette, the lay of the land, of how it was created, how it was formulated, why it is what it is and how it works. We understand how it works. We can't explain all the details, but we have a relatively good understanding on why this medic actually shifts someone's health state. And it's not a symptom based like pharma, but it can be and what it does, it promotes the healing more rapidly of whatever state you're in. And, well, I might as well get into it. When I match your state with the energy of the remedy. And this is a hard first step for people to get around is energetic medicine. That medicines have an energetic frequency. We are all energy right here. It's all energy. If you don't. If you walk into a room and someone's giving you a bad vibe, you're getting bad, energetic vibes, people. Or maybe it's your microbiome, but I don't want to digress too much. So they're just energetic imprints on sugar pills. And the idea is behind homeopathy, like pathology, Homeopathology, Same pathology is I give you substance, and if it was in a high enough amount, it would create the same symptoms that you're experiencing. I'm talking about just managing physical issues right now. I'm not going into the mental or the emotional or the spiritual sphere right now. But homeopathy does that as well. So if you're having a stomach pain that's burning and you're vomiting and you're having, let's say, loose poop, then I would pick a remedy. If you took enough of it would give you those same symptoms. And what this remedy does, it moves you through the illness when you match the energetic blueprint of the little sugar pills. That's how they mostly come. Some come in liquids and your own energetic state. This medicine is individualized. I don't treat diarrhea. I treat len with diarrhea based on your symptoms. So it becomes very personalized, very individualized. Because of that, it takes a bit more time. But after I left the system and made an exit out, I set up my own integrative urgent care in my little hometown. Down to Earth Pediatrics, my son Jesse named it. And what I was doing was a blend of integrative medicine, including some pharma, mostly homeopathics for acute issues. And I got so quick and so good at giving remedies out because you can start to move them quickly. In India, they'll have people. India's homeopathy is very big in India. Lines of 200 people and those seasoned tummy paths could say Belladon arsenicum, you know, arnica. They can just whip through it because they've done it so many times. They can read the frequency of the people. It's amazing. So I start to develop that people would even bring in their dogs and I'd say, oh, that's a nux dog. If I've ever seen one. And so we started to do that. It was a small hippie town back then. It's been siliconized, unfortunately, and teslized also, quite unfortunately. So that is sort of. I'm kind of, you know, giving a lay of why this energy frequency can help people demystify it so that anyone can practice it. Understanding a little bit about the principles, and there are a few to understand and how we choose based on various factors, what is the best remedy for your child?
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Right. So that's wonderful and expansive. A great explanation. I'll just introduce though, when you talk about the principles, what you've just been describing is basically what's called the law of similars, right. That basically you're introducing to the body an energetic frequency that matches whatever they're experiencing. So whether it's pain or whatever that symptom is. And. But the overlying premise of homeopathy, and which again, for someone who's not familiar with it, it's not conventional medicine in any way, shape or form. It's the opposite. And the premise is that your body has an innate natural force. There's a healing force. Your body is always trying to course correct and has incredible capability. But it may be stuck for a variety of reasons, likely environmental stressors of all kinds. And so it's the fact that we're walking around kind of stuck and our body's not able to do what it's designed to do. Where homeopathy comes and doesn't introduce anything into the body, it just reminds the body of the fact that it's stuck, how to course correct and it kind of gives a kickstart to the body. Is that a fair way of describing it?
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I like that way of description, Len. It's absolutely spot on because we do get stuck and sometimes we, when we call it blocks to cure. In homeopathy, where people can get stuck, you can get stuck in the physical, emotional, mental or spiritual spheres, by the way, and this might be a good time for me to inform your audience. There's two kinds of prescribing. There's acute prescribing. Let's say your kid has a sprained ankle, back pain, headache, a fever, the diarrhea, et cetera, all the acute things that come on Friday at 5pm we got those. Then there's the constitutional prescribing. Those are best in the hands of a professional homeopath. Those are really hard to do on your own. It takes years of training. If you look behind me, tons of books I've Actually gone back to India and studied homeopathy after I graduated and got my degree in homeopathy online in a school in England, which is no longer around. They closed during COVID Anyway. So the constitutional prescribing is based on who you are as an individual. And you get your case taken and usually can take 1, 2, 3 hours and a scene. Seasoned homeopath will figure out if you go in to see your homeopath for headaches, they'll figure out more about what's driving those headaches based on who you are. And they'll choose a remedy from the plant, mineral, animal, or imponderable world. And usually children will fall in minerals, occasionally plant remedies, but those are most common in kids. But it can be any remedy. And there are more common remedies in children that we tend to use. We call those polycrust. There are about 10 of them, maybe a few more. But we pick these remedies based on those symptoms. People, professionals now use many of them. Use a computer to repertoire which remedies you might need. I don't like being on the computer. I like old school. I like using books from a book called the Materia Medica. And I actually, what's called repertoireization, figure out what would be the best remedies for you to take. Now, let's say I give you. Let's say I just give you an acute remedy for that, you know, sprained ankle. And it does nothing. So nothing will happen if I choose the wrong one. I'm like, let me take another look at that. Maybe I missed something. And I'd say, len, did we miss something? When you tell me about your sprained ankle, like, oh, the more that I match your physical and mental emotional state with that ankle. And if you say, well, Michelle, I have a lot of denial about this issue. Denial. I'm thinking arnica. And so I'd say that's a high denial remedy. And I'm gonna give you arnica, which I would have given anyway. But this is how I'm thinking. So sometimes only some of the symptoms match up. Like, you're like, well, my kid is 50% better, but a few things are off. You may be close in a remedy, but not spot on. You still might get some healing, but you didn't nail the remedy. All you have to do is change courses and pick something else in that family. Like, what do I mean by that? If your kid has a sinus infection, you might have picked a Cali remedy. Maybe it was Kali bromatum, but it's really Kali Bichromacum. But you were close but not spot on. Then you'd say, oh, it's Kelly Bichromicum and you pick another remedy. Now I'm saying these words. All homeopathic names are in Latin and that is the format. All homeopathic names are followed by a number. It's either an X potency, a C potency or an M potency. That refers to the number of dilutions that was done by the company that you bought it. Most people don't make their own remedies. Boiron, Celtec, Hahnemann. There are many companies. I don't subscribe to anyone. I use many remedies to choose from, Pecana, et cetera. And there's a number of dilutions that this remedy has been through. The more diluted a remedy is, the greater the effect, particularly in different levels of healing. That is also harder to wrap around. That there's this infinitesimal amount of substance to left to nothing left and just the energetic imprint. And that's where western minds have a hard time grasping. But it's true. So I tell people to stick to the 30C's 30C stands for potencies. And you'll find those online, you'll find them at health food stores. Those are the most common. And stay in that ballpark, you don't want to go much higher. Potencies, 200 Cs those are reserved for the more. The issues that are perhaps more constitutional minded, more spiritually minded. And I don't tend to go much lower either because you may still have some remedy effects in the ex potencies. Expotencies are something like what we use frequently, our cell salts. Those are homeopathic 12 minerals designed by a homeopathic named Dr. William Schuessler. And those are in the ex potencies. So I don't want to get too much into the weeds or confuse people. But just stick to the 30Cs when prescribing for your kid or creating your own home, homeopathic kid, or yourself. All these principles apply for you, your kids, your dog, dogs love remedies, etc.
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Well, that's fantastic. The strength and the potency that you mentioned, right? Just going with 30C. And if you did go with something higher like a 200C, I just want to kind of comment that if you did that again, it's likely that just nothing would happen. It's not as if there'd be a big downside if you went to a higher potency. It's about it's kind of like bridge, where you just got to kind of find that sweet spot in between. And you're saying just generally to start off with the 30 C's makes sense, but. But now we've hit on our second concept that you are 100% is opposite of what we've all been conditioned with, which is, number one, instead of countering the symptom, whatever you're experiencing and trying to suppress it, you're introducing something energetically to the body that replicates. So that's mind bending, number one. And then number two is that the less of something that you're giving might be actually more powerful or more potent, which, again, it just all goes against conventional medicine, which is why you can't even understand homeopathy in the conventional model.
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You said that very well, Ed. And that is a big point of contention because, for example, regulatory agencies, which we all need for any kind of products out there, whether they're baby creams or remedies or pharmaceutical drugs, you can't judge homeopathy by the same tools that you would do pharmaceuticals, because they're not equal. They are not on the same plane. And they're not manufactured the same way, they're not produced the same way, they don't work the same way. And pharmaceuticals often work by symptom suppression. And you're 100% correct. Homeopathy is not designed for suppression, but to move you through any blocks, as we mentioned prior, move you through that state of whatever state you're in, high fever, move you through it to the next stage. And as you allow your body to get through the stages of healing, it needs to get on the other side. And you're right, supporting the body's innate wisdom to heal itself. And that's what we're trying to do, is give it those tools, the fda. Maybe it's a good time for me to talk politics. I never wanted to talk politics Land. I just don't even like politicians. This is not my area, but here I am. So the FDA has been after homeopathy for a long time. And actually, just briefly, homeopathy was pushed to the background in 1910 with the release of something called the Flexner Report. And that was done by an educator named Abraham Flexner. He was related to the Rockefellers, John Dee. And John Dee needed a place to put his leftovers from his oil industry into the pharma industry. And it was his mission to get rid of all natural medicines out of medical education around the early 20th century. And at that time in medicine, practitioners were using homeopathy, hands on therapies, therapeutic baths, herbal medicine. I have a book behind me that I found at a flea market from the early 1900s going through all this in medical books for home use because there weren't that many physicians around. So parents would be treating children at home, which is what we're trying to resurrect by the way. That is my goal with what I'm doing. And so Abraham Flexon went across the US and he focused on so many of the big institutions, Hopkins in particular, but all of them, and was able to derail and create that. Homeopathy was equated to quackery. And at the turn of the century, 20th century, there were 900 practicing homeopaths in San Francisco. I'm in the Bay Area and now we've got like a half a homeopath. I know we have a few homeopaths. It's made a resurrection, a resurrection since the 70s, but literally obliterated it from medical education. Many medical schools were homeopathic. Ucsf, Hahnemann Temple, I think even maybe it was Boston. I'm not 100% sure about that. New York Medical College, those were all homeopathic hospitals. And people don't know that there's a statue of Hahnemann at Hahnemann Medical School in Philadelphia. So people forget who he was. They honor him outside Hahnemann, you know, at medical school presently. So. But it didn't go away despite these efforts, very successful efforts in the 70s, as I mentioned, it resurged and it's resurging hard now. Parents are looking for these tools. Why wouldn't you? Children love taking them sugar pills over the counter. Eight bucks for a little vial. The vials don't even go bad. I have remedies behind me. I have a few hundred remedies, maybe even close to a thousand. But anyway, I have remains behind me that I've had for 20 years that still work. They don't go bad. So a pharma drug, two years and you've got to bring it to some special off site site to dump it because it's a toxic pollutant and it's going to get in our water system and all that good stuff, remedies, they're fine. Just a little sugar pill just in case. And if your kid takes a whole vial, no problem. There's no toxic effects. So here we are again. And now the FDA still is looking to clamp down on homeopathy. It's unbelievable. We can get into that now. I don't know how interesting that is for your listeners, but. But we are still being pursued.
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I'm interested in pursuing it because again, what you just described, yeah, it sounds innocent and very helpful. But if you back up and take a big picture approach, homeopathy is subversive to the current model. That has nothing to do with getting people well. So that's where there's many forces at play. And nobody's really truly caring about your child and wanting them to get better. And that's where homeopathy all comes down to giving something to the body that's useful to achieve wellness. It's not about symptom suppression or management. And so if you take that big picture approach and look just with an eyes wide open, here are the forces at play. Homeopathy is very dangerous. The impact more and more people do it. Which is why, what was it, I think a year and a half ago where Whole Foods pulled homeopathy and I was like, why would they do that? So again, maybe let me hand it back to you, share what you would like to share. But yes, something that seems so innocent, there are many forces who would see it as being very, very dangerous.
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Being on drugs is super profitable for industry. If your kid is on albuterol, you're taking statins every day. They'll make 300amonth just from one person taking some statins every month. Or if your kids on inhalers all the time, you know, there especially those drugs that have not become generic and that the companies still have the patent on billions of dollars. We've all seen that during COVID certain companies made lots of money profiting. So we know that to be true. So what happened? I agree. Whole Foods whole paycheck took it off their shelves several years ago. You can still easily buy remedies online. You can buy them in health food stores, et cetera. But it made it less possible, you know, the convenience of going to Whole Foods. A lot of people shop there to get their organics to get your remedy. That was an interesting thing. The FDA also during COVID around, let's say around between 20, 22, 23 to 24, they removed homeopathic eye drops for cataracts, eye issues, conjunctivitis, which is infection of the eye irritations from, let's say allergies. People get eye irrit. They removed them off the shelves completely and made it illegal and saying that they needed to be evaluated in the same way that pharmaceuticals are evaluated. Now the way pharmaceutical evaluated is big money. It takes a lot to evaluate a drug. There's all kinds of drug studies that have to happen and drug plans and approvals and homeopathy. Homeopathics don't work that way, nor do they have that pharma money to back them up to put them in drug trials. So homeopathy was never under that system. It had its own system called hpus, the. I forgot what it even stands for, but I call it HPUs. But it was under its own system. So the FDA said, no, those eye drops are going off the market. And they wanted all homeopathics to be viewed in the same way pharma is viewed. You can't take two disparate forms of medicine and put them under the same regulatory, you know, framework. It doesn't work that way. So they made it impossible to get these cataract eye drops. Now, me being somewhat of a CSI mom and pediatrician, I said, wait a minute. We're seeing a surge of people with cataracts because we're on these blue light devices all the time. Some people are on constant, or some people don't shut the blue light off because they ruin your eyes. A lot of these devices really cause significant eye issues. And there has been an increase in cataracts. You can treat cataracts homeopathically. I've done it successfully. So I wrote in preparation for this conversation, I wrote an article for Substack about what actually happened with the FDA and homeopathy and homeopathic eye drops. And it got so banned so quickly. I said, really? We still can't talk about this stuff. It got the big shadow ban. So they don't wanna sing for some reason. That is my conspiratorial mind speaking. Or I'd like to think of it more as a critical thinker, but I don't need to speak to as to the why. I could just tell you what happened. Now. We can still get some of those homeopathic eye drops from India. You can still get them, but it makes it a lot harder for people to get these things to treat themselves, especially when they're so effective. Why would the FDA take off and sit and just target the eye drops was a mystery to me. What was this kind of oppression thing about what's to come, that all the remedies are going to be removed? Well, fast forward to legislation. There is a bill sitting somewhere. Maybe it's in the assembly right now removing those obstructions to homeopathy. A bill was brought forth. I don't remember which assembly person brought it forth. Bill 7050, I believe. Yeah. No, this is a US bill, a federal bill. Yes. So forgive me for that. And I can find it if your viewers are interested. I'll get that information to you, Leb. But it hasn't gone forward. It was introduced, but it's kind of stuck in that legislative pipeline where many bills get stuck, but in the meantime, people cannot access these homeopathic eyedrops, which are super safe. And so the FDA brought into question sterility. Well, you know, we can't judge their sterility. Well, yeah. I said, really? You can if a company says they're sterile. I said, I'd like to remind you, FDA that vaccines aren't sterile. They say they're not sterile. It's a mind blow when you think about it. You know, they do everything they can to ensure quality. But the FDA says itself that vaccines aren't sterile. Sterile. You can find that on the FDA website, which blew my mind when I first learned about that. But I'm thinking, so we can inject non sterile vaccine into our children, but I cannot put that homeopathic, sterile eye drop into my eye. Okay, I just wanted to clarify what we're saying here. So that was a bit of a demystifying moment for me with the fda. But this is what's coming. And there is a group, a homeopathic group group that has been trying to fight a lot of this legislation. This is not where I live, Len. I just prescribe it because as mentioned, I live in the GMO food roundup world that is my world is cleaning up our food supply. But I am a strong and passionate supporter of all things homeopathic, even though I'm not on the front lines of pushing the legislation or anything like that. There are amazing individuals doing that. But I am here to educate parents on how they can use homeopathics successfully. And the homeopathic sales has risen and keeps rising, so people are becoming more informed.
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That's great. Yeah. And homeopathy is something that as a parent, you can get educated on. And I have my whole slew of remedies labeled based on symptom and the like. So it's something you can absolutely do yourself and become more and more knowledgeable. But there's nothing like working with a qualified homeopath to help you understand especially what might be happening with your child, if that's your focus. And I think I just wanted to touch on the concept that working with an actual human being, a homeopath who has lived, experience and understanding and lots of books behind them like you do, Dr. Michelle, that's extremely important because what's counterintuitive for me is that in the age of AI and I had Patty Lemmer on last week talking about her book Total Load Theory and her AI tool, which is very helpful to tap her resources. But artificial intelligence, because it can take so many factors in at once, you would think it would be a great tool for homeopathy, because the way homeopathy works, if you work with a homeopath, as you mentioned, they'll spend hours with you asking question after question, getting a lot of data points to be able to determine what remedy is the best fit. And you would think AI could also do that really well. But the key is that the human consciousness, the human element here is super important. And so something like homeopathy, only relying on some kind of software tool to help you figure out the remedy won't get you there because you can't remove the human being. And of course, you want someone with the right perspective who's tuned in, paying attention. So I just wanted to say, especially in the age of AI, homeopathy, it can help in so many ways. But for something like homeopathy, a human being guiding you, nothing can ever replace that.
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Lynn, I couldn't concur more with that. And, you know, I've looked at AI, and AI can be extremely helpful because it can seem scan data so so much quicker, more quickly than I can. But I can tell you the way I would treat my homeopathic patients. I didn't think about them, I felt them. And I, you know, that's the way I work because I'm a feeler or I'm an empath. And I could often feel what remedy they needed because I had done that, done it so many times. So I was like, oh, this is a plant person. And this person, oh, pulsatiller, screaming at me or whatever it was. And I could begin to feel your energetic state, especially children, because they're not blocked, they're not hidden, they're screaming in your office, they have no social cues. They are who they are until about 8 years old. And then they learn to dial down until they're 16 again or 15 and they dial back up. But we can talk about the childhood stuff. So feeling someone is important in my line of work is how the patient feels. And how would I describe that to AI is the first feeling of it. And, you know, when you come in as an energetic human into my space, and I could say in about a second, len, what's wrong? You know, like, you're not Right. Like I could pick it up immediately, you know, it. Or I can look and just look in your eyes reading your body language or. So many times people came into my office, mom would be ready to go and the dad be sitting there like this, arms crossed like, like, oh, it's gonna be a tough one. So, um, all that would, would you
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slip a remedy in his water if he was like that?
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I wish. You know, with things like that, you know, as an experienced, you know, clinician, we learn how to manage those, you know, challenging relationships. There's so much we learn. Just as families walk into a room, I can learn so much within the first 30 seconds. I once read that people decide whether they like a new house that they're going to buy within 30 seconds. Walking into it. I could tell you so much about a family within 30 seconds because I could just read the room, read the room. Now of course I do my whole case taking and all my things and I, I, and I'm quick to change my mind. If it's not pulsatilla, like, oh, it's not that but it gives me a framework. But these building relationships, whether that remedy is going to work for you, our relationship matters as well. And people will often say that, oh, homeopathy works because it's placebo. I've heard that before. I said, really for your two month old, you think that was placebo, that that remedy worked? It's like, you know, I just treated your child's thrush with some Borax 30C and you think that was placebo? I mean, I've heard that a lot and I've heard people do not want to accept that homeopathy works when it works. I've had successful cases and both moms and dads have told me it's like, oh, that's better, wonderful. Congratulations. They said, well, we also took the gluten out which so it's probably that never give credit to the remedy. I've had that experience of people have such a hard time believing that those little sugar pills work. It's been such an interesting journey for me. The other hard thing about it let me just about using homeopathy is the over the decades, the treatment that I've gotten from other professionals, you know, the health professionals, the eye rolling, the jokes, the humor, the constant. I think there's more humor than anything else regarding homeopathy. I mean, I have received enough eye rolls, I could travel around the world. People's eyes have rolls. How many times when I'd say I'm a Homeopath. As a matter of fact, I didn't even put I was a homeopath on my first book. I sure did on my second because our publisher didn't want me to put it on my first book. But anyway, it's been a battle on all fronts to prescribe these remedies. And I remind you, your listeners, that in other countries like Germany, regular internal medicine practitioners, 30% of them, use homeopathy in their day to day practice. Like no big deal in India, you throw a rock, you hit a homeopath. And so in other countries, this is in France, common homeopathy is common. So this, although they're trying to change that, but this is normal fare in other countries, but not here in the US where we're controlled by the big arm of pharma. So to even get this out as a human, as a professional, as a practitioner, there have been so many battles with homeopathy, but still, what I love about what you are doing is, is we're getting it right into the hands of parents, we are bypassing governments systems, other practitioners, and I'm trying to help you tell your audience we can help empower you to regain your children's health. Now, if your child is undergoing a serious health issue, of course, please consult with your practitioner. Hold on. But there are so many simple things you can do at home. And the most satisfying thing are, for example, bites and stings. Homeopathy is fabulous. You get a bee sting, that thing starts to swell up immediately and your kid is screaming and you're putting some ice there, some APIs, 30C. What? Histaminem, 30C, you'll take it down in five minutes. Put some calendula, topically, you're good to go. And I have all those tips in the book, but you're good to go. So there's not life threatening, assuming your kid doesn't have one of the bee allergies. But stings, bites, rashes, pulse, poison oak, poison ivy, all that kind of stuff, you're gonna see amazing results. And that's what makes believers out of people who kind of poo poo homeopathy. I think I'm kind of all over the map here, Len, but you know, we can kind of bring it back into the funnel if you want.
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Hey, hey. I love this conversation. My son, by the way, he's got his EpiPen because he has life threatening peanut and soy allergies, but he's got eight homeopathic remedies in there. He self uses them as he needs to so he's 19. And that's a key part of how for him, in terms of his vitality, homeopathy has been game changing. And I won't even go into his story, which is absolutely incredible, with how homeopathy turned him around. Going back to what you were sharing, though, if you had a TV show that basically had people coming in and you're reading their energies and talking about remedies, I would watch that TV show. So maybe after your book, that may be something you want to look into.
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Well, you know, that can be fun. It's like, oh, right, here's a nux person. Well, it's kind of funny, Len, because over the years, and I'll give you one little bias, a kind of a fun snippet that people might find interesting. People would say to me, oh, yeah, I've seen a homeopath. My remedy was. And they would tell me their remedy. And I didn't ask them for their remedy name, but they would tell me what their remedy is. And I'm thinking, oh, oh, no, that was your remedy. Because I know a little too much about that. People who need that remedy. So. So I've had some interesting reactions myself, knowing about homeopathic remedies. And I was out with a friend about. Not about six months ago, and he said, michelle, I saw a homeopath. He spent three hours with me. He great. Gave me a remedy. And. And he said, it's been amazing. I can't tell you the experience. I took the remedy. It was brilliant. The remedy is. I said, aurum phosphorica. He said, how did you know that? I said, I know you. So I just figured out that you are this metal, and I put it with this. And that's what I did, and that's what I feel. He goes, I just spent all that money and three hours with this guy and you just gave it to me. I said, well, I know you. When you know someone, you can come up with a remedy easier sometimes. But sometimes you just feel it, you know, you just feel the remedy. You. And even though I don't do homeopathy so much anymore, Len, these constitutionals, I'm not practicing quite yet because I'm mostly focused on teaching and my nonprofit. But I said. And his mind was blown. I said, once you learn the basic principles, you can begin to apply it, break, demystify it. You know, this precious, righteous homeopathy, it should be in everyone's hands. It's another tool. It's like herbal medicine, you know, it's in Your toolbox, you know you have a stomachache, think about one of the mints, you know, peppermint in your, in your teas, or, you know, or, you know, you might have some licorice, you know, you know, tea in your, in your cabinet. It's chamomile tea, everyone knows that might help you sleep. It's like that. Those remedies should be sitting side by side, your herbals, your teas in your tool chest. So empowering you that you don't need necessarily come see me and you don't necessarily need a pharmaceutical. Occasionally we do. Occasionally you might need a pharmaceutical. All good, that's fine. But oftentimes there's so many natural things you can try first.
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No doubt now leading into the release of your book that just came out. So you put pen to paper again. So if you could share with our listeners again what prompted you to put that book together. And I know parents can absorb information about, hey, here's some things I can do and what the possibilities are. But I also know that parents are usually more inclined to move when they may make a mistake. They may miss something. So if someone were to reread your book, what would be one key takeaway with respect to a mistake they may make early in the journey to support their child that perhaps your book goes into more detail on? Can you just give a little teaser?
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Yeah, let me give a little teaser about that. So this is a guidebook for parents. I have lots of spaces for notes and stuff, and I broke it down, a nutrition section and everything. How to stock your kitchen to how to create your homeopathic homebox. But I think a misstep might be understanding, especially for kids now who are sicker than kids then that it takes multiple tools that just changing your kid's diet, for example, and going organic may not be enough. It was 25 years ago, not anymore. 20 years ago might have been enough. Going organic, taking out gluten and dairy, that might be enough. Not now. Fifteen years ago, it might have been organic gluten, dairy and a remedy. Maybe not now. Five years ago, it's now. Organic gluten, dairy remedy, herbal and a frequency therapy now because kids are sicker. Why? Because they're being poisoned. What's driving the chronic disease epidemic in our children is chronic poisoning, whether it's from pesticides, toxic metals. I say toxic because some metals are not heavy by weight. Like arsenic, I believe is not heavy by weight. Water pollution and air pollution, we're polluting our children. They're born pre polluted Ken Cook did that study from EWG. It's the classic study on umbilical cord toxicants. 287 per belly button blood draw, you know, born in pre polluted babies. So something parents may not know, I created a whole section on pre pregnancy cleanup. So let's say you are a family and let's say your first child does have autistic autism, autism spectrum disorder, let's say that happened. Your second child, if you choose that has a 20% chance of having autism. Right. You have a risk. So there are things you can do to during pre pregnancy cleanup to help prepare to avoid those missteps. And I went into that hard and I gave both the nutritional guidance, the home cleanup guidance, the external milieu as what remedies you can use if you need remedies once you're pregnant. I don't like detoxing people because whatever we detox in you goes right into the fetus then baby. So that's not when I detox. But there's always an opportunity to eat well, to support your nutrition, even to do gentle detox like detox baths. And I have all my detox bath formulas in the book. So it's this idea is even if we mishap, even if we have a kid with challenges, that those kids can be corrected, future children we can help. And I rather prevent than treat. I'd rather see no more autism and then treat autism. Autism is reversible. It's a reversible sore, especially when we get kids younger. I'd rather not treat it. It's a long, hard journey. And parents like yourself have become practitioners, you know, more than the majority of practitioners out there, pediatricians, let's just be frank. I'd rather prevent it. And we know that when moms have something called immune activation, we know that they have inflammatory markers that create an inflammatory state in the fetus and then the baby. And this is not a good creation for baby for issues going forward. And I also want to stave off the rise of all immunologic chaos in our children, whether it's chronic infections, autoimmunity and cancers. And I have a whole section in the book on how to detox from vaccines as well as if I know I can say the V word on your show, if I say the v word on YouTube or Facebook, off I go.
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Exactly. Well, no, that's a fantastic teaser for your book. Lots of really important areas that you dive into. So I'm very thankful to you for putting pen to paper and having that be a resource for families. So again, thank you so much for sharing all this. And yeah, with homeopathy I agree it's powerful. And even though yes, I would love to for so much of the energy to be on preventing these conditions our kids are facing, the reality is so many of them need help now and homeopathy is just such an overlooked option. And that's not a surprise because forces are at play to make it less available. But still something a road that you can go down and if you do want to gain a better understanding of how it works, why it works, along with a lot of specific tips and insights, your book is a dynamite resource for that. So thank you for that and thank you so much for joining me today and sharing your voice.
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Len. A pleasure and I am looking forward to all your future episodes. I have shared them with my families and I think you just do an amazing job getting this info out to parents where the info needs to go.
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