
Del Bigtree joins the show for a powerful conversation about courage, conviction, and what it means to stop staying silent when truth demands action. He shares why parents have played such a vital role in the medical freedom movement, why freedom requires personal responsibility, and why this moment calls for more courage than comfort. The secret this week is… You Are Being Called To RISE
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There has to be a reckoning. There has to be an official international apology for what's taking place. And so I think all of that still lies out in the future. There's work to do to get to that place. But as I've said at all my conferences, I think we're all put on this earth at this time specifically for a reason. I think we have a mission. I think our life experiences are fueling us with whatever it is we need to do and do our part to. To make this world a better place.
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If you're a parent of a child with autism, you are being called to rise with love, courage, and clarity. This journey isn't easy, and most parents aren't equipped, but you can be. This podcast is your invitation to rise higher because how you navigate matters. I'm Len, and this is Autism Parenting Secrets, where you become the parent your child needs. Autism Now. Hello and welcome. This week, I am so honored to welcome Del Bigtree. Dell is the founder of the Informed Consent Action Network, host of the High Wire, and executive producer of Vaxxed, and most recently, the film An Inconvenient Study. For years, Dell's been one of the most influential voices challenging corruption, censorship, and the growing disconnect between public health agencies and. And the people they're supposed to serve. But beyond the headlines and the controversy, Dell's work has always challenged people to think differently, question deeply, and act courageously. And so at the Autism Health Summit earlier this year, Dell shared the deeply personal story behind Vaxed, the seedy whistleblower, and the moments that forced him to choose between comfort and conviction. And honestly, that's the exact crossroads that many parents find themselves facing with right now. The secret this week is you are being called to rise. Welcome, Del.
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Thank you so much. Lyn. Thank you for having me today.
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Oh, it's absolutely my pleasure. And, you know, I guess I'd ask you at the outset, Bill, to kind of bottom line it. If you step back from everything that you produced, which I think is just such incredible works, what do you think the deeper underlying message is for parents, especially those, you know, who are navigating complex challenges with their children?
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The one thing that I always, you know, want to say is there's a lot of times that parents with children that have been injured by vaccines will come up to me in an event and say something like, you know, you don't even have a child with autism, and yet you're in this fight. Thank you for your sacrifice. I always really find it necessary to correct. I think that Perspective. I think the parents of injured children out there are the ones that, and I said this at a Mother's Day speaking event, are the ones that have built the resistance. They're the ones that have built this movement. Maha doesn't exist. Medical freedom doesn't exist. Whatever you want to call it, vaccine risk awareness does not exist except for these courageous individuals who, who I think have one of the more complicated home situations is probably the best way I can put it. But very difficult problems at home with severe vaccine injury. And somehow on top of that incredible work, trying to be there for their child, trying to recover their child. And I think I can never say I understand it. I've only been in homes. I've obviously done a lot of documentary work around it. Journalist. I think I understand this more than anyone is the best that I can say. And it is to me, a life dedicated to service. When they on top that went out and warned people like me of these injuries and took time to build a movement to talk to politicians, to let the world know that this was happening, that to me, those are the most incredible individuals walking this earth. Today. I'm able to do what I do because there was a movement built before I got here. I always say Vaxxed didn't start the vaccine risk awareness movement or the medical freedom movement. It just ignited it. And I think what I brought to it was media. I think I just simply came from media. I think there was lots of lawyers involved and doctors and scientists, but I don't think anyone had really thought, how are we going to deal with media around this issue? And frankly, you know, one of the things that I saw differently when I came into this movement was that I saw that negative press is better than no press. I ran Vaxxed on that. I have continued to all the way to the Atlantic article that was written about me just a few weeks ago, that I step into the firing line knowing full well that, you know, I'm, I'm saying things to the reporter like, you know, he's like, I, you know, I want my child to catch the measles. I want my child to, you know, get polio. I'm not worried about it. Like, things like that that I know are going to give me the most negative headlines you can imagine, but it's also going to be read by people that need to know we're out there. And that is really. I did that with Vaxed. You know, no one was talking to the cameras. No one was letting press into the events. And I just said, we that's we're never going to get anywhere that way. We've got to accept that that negativity at least lets people know we're here. And I think we are now really starting to reap the benefits of that perspective. So what's really changed in the last 10 years was a movement that was already strong and powerful and beautiful. But I just said there's a way we can get press around this and trust me, negative press actually goes further. And Vax ran on that, all of that, talked a lot about that at the Autism Health Summit. But I say all that because people like yourselves and many watching today, you protected my child. But now what motivates people like me? Maybe you could call us the real anti vaxxer. I always correct the press when they call people a vaccine injured anti vaxxers. So they're ex vaxxers. They absolutely believed in this. They believed in their doctor, they trusted their doctors, they trusted the cdc. Some of them will even admit I ridiculed people that were vaccinating as being anti science until it affected their life directly. So those are the X vaxxers that are the heart of the movement. But now because of their incredible work, we really do have anti vaccines. We have parents that will never give their child a single vaccine. It's a growing part of this movement and these two groups coming together have very unique and different energies to what drives them. But my self protective mechanism for my own kids that are not vaccinated is as strong a motivation as any parental motivation there is on those that are trying to recover their kids. So it's not a sacrifice. But I also want to say this and I want this to be clear. I go to a lot of conferences and meetings where we have think tanks about what is it we're trying to achieve. A lot of the different leadership groups in this space and one of the concerns is that people like myself will just walk away. Once we've gotten rid of vaccine mandates or something, we walk away. I'm never walking away. I am never going to accept in my lifetime that we have injured these children. And the government will have to recognize that that happened. They're going to have to, on whatever level, pay what they can. I don't think there's enough money in the world to pay for the damage that's been done. But it has to be recognized. We've got to get to the bottom of the truth. So as much as removing mandates is gonna protect future children, very important. But it is absolutely critical that we recognize what's been done here. We have another movement joining us now that happened with COVID The COVID vaccine injury, which brings in a lot more adults into this issue now, I think is bringing attention in the right places. But to be clear, there has to be a reckoning. There has to be an official international apology for what's taken place. And so I think all of that still lies out in the future. There's work to do to get to that place. But as I've said at all my conferences, I think we're all put on this earth at this time specifically for a reason. I think we have a mission. I think our life experiences are fueling us with whatever it is we need to do and do our part to make this world a better place to end this insanity. This vaccine program is an absolute disaster. There are not benefits. The benefits do not outweigh the risks. Now, I think that the Henry Ford study at the center of my film, An Inconvenience Study, really lays that out. If it's now a coin toss, a 50% chance that your child is going to have a chronic disease based on just looking at vaccines. I mean, I think that's what makes that study so important. Sure. Glyphosate plays in food, plays in forever. Chemicals, all of it. ICANN is suing on behalf of all those we're deeply involved in fluoride. But nothing is directly injected the way this is. Nothing is designed to incite the immune system the way this does. Nothing is so capable of creating encephalopathy, a brain swelling event, but nothing is so good at destroying the gut biome. All of these things, which many of your viewers right now recognize are a cornucopia of issues that have to be dealt with. The world needs to realize that if we want to survive as a species, and I say this too spiritually, we need to get back to recognize that God made us perfect. And men are doing a really terrible job at advancing the human body, which is what their goal is. They're failing, just as God said. I think you will fail if you try to leave what I've given you. If you become so afraid or believe that you are not created in the image and likeness of God, that doctors are going to come in all the way to the point the insanity has gotten to the point where doctors want to be able to decide what gender you are and it's not being decided by God and how you're entering this earth. I report on this all the time. This isn't new to anyone out there. But it just shows how far out of balance. Call it Satan, call it evil, call it ego, call it hubris, whatever you want to call it, it's very vivid at the moment we live right now. Which is why I think being really honest about your experience now with the people you meet, I don't think you should be hiding your story. Tell your story. We are not in the same place we were before Vax came out, where no one's being really ridiculed anymore. I really do think I keep talking to more and more people. The recent sort of whistleblower, Katie Talento, that shut down Bobby Kennedy's interactions with Trump in his first campaign, his first presidency, she's coming forward and she says the whole world's changed. Dale, you guys have changed the world, we've changed D.C. there's obviously work to do, but I would say use this moment where our eyes are wide open. Covid opened us up, the politics is wide open. Trump is saying it, Bobby's there. We need to use this moment to wake up the people because it's the court of public opinion that's going to decide our future.
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Yeah. Bobby, you covered so much beautifully. I think, love that you ended where it does come down to God, how he made us. And it really comes down to the parents autonomy to make good decisions, which is really hard because the deck is stacked against parents and there's so many forces at play trying to remove that decision making from parents. And you know, I agree with you. I think Vaxxed as a movie, it was so such an inflection point because for parents like my wife Cass and I and all these other parents who had these very unique, unbelievably challenging journeys, these stories were hidden. If you did share your story, there was so much uncomfortability with that. Right. Being judged, being questioned. So I think Vax did finally get what so many people knew actually out there. And obviously you could make a documentary and then no one watches it. That doesn't help anyone, which is why I think you were uniquely positioned to bring to fruition something that really did change the dialogue. And, and I just know, I'm so grateful that you did because that was the only way the narrative was going to change. So, so again, just a thank you for that and just I know that you entered this and there's, there's details of how it all happened, but still, parents, we have a dog in this fight, we have a child. And, and so we're here fighting for them. So the fact that you didn't Have a child with these challenges. A lot of people come and go and they maybe play a role and then they leave. So I take you at your word that you're here to stay and the conviction that you have. I just can't tell you how grateful I am that you are fighting for these kids. And it is these kids who exist now. I love so much what's happening. The fact that RFK Jr. Is in there, what a gift that is. I've been praying for that for so many years and so much can happen in Washington that perhaps helps with prevention and turns the tide. But there's so many kids now that need help and they can't be ignored.
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I call it a tidal wave. It's a tidal wave and I think the looming problem that no one in this country or the world is really talking about outside of this movement is those kids that are about to age out that they're going to move into adulthood. It gets very complicated as you know, as guardians and parents in those situations. And then God forbid you're at an age as a parent where your days may be numbered or what happens to that adult child that's been through this experience. The pressure that that is going to put on our health system is inconceivable and the thought around it is non existent. The plans for it don't exist. And when you talk to politicians, it's just like staring into blank eyes. They do not recognize what's about to happen. So it's huge. It's huge. It's very specific to this moment in time. So I also think though that one of the things that I've always liked about this conversation around vaccines is we have a lot of problems in the world. But America is uniquely situated and even under the oppression of COVID and as strong an attack as there was on our constitutional rights and our Bill of Rights, we survived because we have a strong constitution and a vision of from our founding fathers that is completely unique in this world. But I recognized in all the investigations I've done as a journalist that if you were to look at all of the things that would wake people up to the fact that you no longer have a nation of for and by the people. It's of for and by the corporations. I mean there was just a hearing that we were live on. I'm not sure if this is airing the same day we're speaking, but this whistleblower, CIA whistleblower that just came forward and was streamed on the high wire by Rand Paul and discussing exactly the COVID up Of COVID It was said by multiple politicians. This does not sound like a nation of form by the people. There are corporate interests, there are government interests that are lying to the American people. They're lying to the world, of course, but in America that's not supposed to be legal, it's not supposed to be allowed. That's treasonous. Something has to be done and that's what I think. Vaccines and this conversation and vaccine injury and Covid autism, all of it does is it shines a light at the error we've made or the attention we've taken off of our rights and how much we need to get back involved and that we need to change how our government is working or it's going to fall right into the globalist authoritarian system. So the truth is I'm not just fighting for medical freedom. I believe that this is the most specific way to talk about freedom for all citizens. Banking, fractional reserve banking, CBDCs, AI. All these things gonna affect a lot of people. No doubt they are problems but this was something that our government has done to every single person in this country. They told us it was safe. They kept increasing more and more of them the amount we were getting. It's safe, it's effective. They essentially lied to the people. They let corporations drive a program without ever seeing if it was safe. I don't think you have a more flagrant disregard for the rights of citizens than this issue. That's why I stay with it. I mean it's about freedom. If you don't control your body, you are not a free person. And that message is growing every day. I really think we're over that fulcrum point. I think we're into over 50% of Americans are now recognizing that body sovereignty. They don't like liability protection on vaccines. It's anti free market. They don't, you know, they want choice when it comes to vaccines. I'd say one of the things that I say is a great talking point now is people like well how do I talk to that friend? Look it, we now know 9 out of 10 people in America that got the COVID vaccine aren't getting their recent the recommended booster. That means that the most staunch, I mean you had to really be pretty out to lunch. I don't know what the nice way to say it to be getting your seventh, eighth booster shot. Those are people that were dedicated to vaccines beyond all reason, deeply deprived even they, even they. Now technically if you go by the definition an anti vaxxer is someone that just delays one or more vaccines or skips one or more vaccines. They've all just become anti vaxxers. I think we should seize on that simple conversation. So your friend, I just say, have you gotten a recent booster shot if you know it's one of these people that gets them all? No, I've decided not to. Why? I feel like I have enough. But it's recommended by the cdc. Well, yeah, I know. So you're going against the cdc, you're going against Pfizer or Moderna. Yeah. And then you've just opened up a doorway. So you like having the right to choose then? Yeah. I mean, what would you do if Donald Trump said everybody has to get that next booster shot? They'll probably show you both of their middle fingers. And there we've just now created a conversation, an opening point to why medical freedom's important. I think everyone should be using this opportunity to have a conversation similar to that. The world is now pliable to this, especially around COVID vaccine. Cause it has so many issues around it. The fact that ultimately didn't work, doesn't stop transmission is a big part of that. So all of that to say we've got great tools now. I wouldn't say I'd be careful that we rely on Bobby Kennedy to change the world. I obviously worked to the edge of my own death getting him there. I am so happy he's there. I'm so proud of what he's doing. But, you know, I see the judgments of him. You can't imagine what a cesspool Washington D.C. is. I have people begging me to get into politics. I can't tell you how unappealing that really is. I don't. There's not much you can do there. You're watching Bobby, who's one of the most driven, spiritually guided, intellectually brilliant, passionate. When you're watching the limitations he's up against, just know that we're watching him do the best we've ever seen. Right. And that. And that's what you're dealing with there. I also want to give a shout out when we're talking about Vaxxed before this is over to Andy Wakefield. I did come in. I was a part of Vaxxed. Vaxxed is not possible without Andy Wakefield. I think a lot of people think that I made that movie. All of that research, all of that data, all of the fact that we have William Thompson recorded all of the interviews for the most part of the parents that were injured that appear in that movie, like Sheila Ealy, all of that was Andy and Polly Tommy, the work that they did. It's really easy for someone like me that works in television and I've edited thousands and thousands and thousands of hours. It did need someone with my expertise, but that was the easy job. I could do that in a couple months. That was years of work in that film that really needed the credit needs to go where that should be, which is Dr. Andrew Wakefield forever indebted. It changed my life forever. Still, I think, I hope in my lifetime I get to see the correction to showing him there should be statues erected of one of the great scientists that ever lived that stood up in the face of incredible adversity. That is Andy Wakefield. That is how he should be spoken about in the history books in the future. And until that is happening, we really have not come full circle on this conversation. I do believe there is that moment in history where that happens.
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Yep. No, fully agree. And I think it was brutal what happened with him. And even now with so much that's known, once people form an opinion, it's hard for them to unfold form it. Right. So I think there's no question the material was there. So many people contributed. But again, that all could have been released to crickets if it wasn't put out in the right way, which is again, where I know you come in. And with COVID and everything that happened there, you have to imagine in some weird, bizarre way that was needed to wake people up, you needed such a blatant example that impacted not just kids, but adults, older adults. So again, it's just where this is all going. I think, I think there's a lot to be optimistic about. The, the. The questioning of RFK Jr. Who, who's in there doing the best he can. I. I'm glad you mentioned that because.
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Yeah.
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How. What an unbelievably difficult challenge. And if you're ever. If anyone's going to be able to figure out how to maneuver and get things done. And sure, after four years, not everything's going to get done, but the odds are if anyone's going to be able to figure out, it's him. And getting anything done in Washington is so incredibly challenging. So I don't understand when people are complaining he's not moving fast enough. I mean, again, as you articulated, I know in one of your talks, right. It's a chess match. You got to plan your sequencing your moves. And right now we can all just be very actively patient as he does the best he can with the team he has.
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And you don't know, you really don't know who's gunning for you. I mean, you can't imagine that guy has got more opposition. So many different things. I had an interesting conversation recently with someone very knowledgeable, and they were just saying how they don't think that the policy under Trump is, is not doing its job to protect Bobby and Mackere and Oz, or we're seeing firings under Trump, that the policymakers are supposed to be the ones standing in front, stepping up and really pushing policy agendas and making sure the media covers it the right way. And in a conversation, I thought, there are so few people like Bobby Kennedy, you would need 10 of them. Right. You need him at HHS. You need another one that's on the policy team that fully knows what we all know that we've all been researching or maybe an Aaron Seri or somebody. But the problem is, and this was part of the problem, when you're building a cabinet, he took the end. You can't bring in the people that are already called anti back. He wasn't gonna be allowed. He got Cassidy. Let one guy through is Robert Kennedy Jr. We've seen it. You're not going to get, you know, Kasey Means or you're not going to get Dave Weldon. We got one Bobby. And so who's left to be on a policy team that understands what Bobby's trying to do? Nobody. And so the way this system is supposed to work for you and the way a president's supposed to work, we're missing giant pieces of this political puzzle. And it's also to Trump's benefit. He brings in Tulsi Gabbard. She's way outside the box of Deep State. But Bobby Kennedy, outside the box of deep State. But what is your hiring pool to help them get things done? It's all a deep state hiring pool. Right. So you really got to just. We gotta really be thankful for what we are seeing being achieved. I'm not. Look, Bobby wouldn't say he's there. You can criticize him, but when I see people, oh, he's turned on us, he's abandoned us. I just, that's what I find frustrating. Just because I know him, he doesn't lose sleep over it. But when you know there's guys in there just taking arrows, bleeding out every day, getting called turncoats or something, that gets a little bit difficult. But look, that's just my moment there. It's a miracle what's been achieved so far. We need almost as big a miracle. When I look at these last 10 years, we need to sort of double what we've achieved in 10 years. We may have two or three left. And that's why I think it's just so important that we use this momentum now to capture that wind that's at our backs, throw up the biggest sails you can, make it as bright as you can, enroll everybody that you can, because there's a global takeover underway, and America's just about on its own here. And one election that shifts back to people that believe in control of the state. When you watch that, not a single Democrat showed up to this whistleblower testimony laying out exactly how CIA scientists Fauci Were lying to CIA, were lying to FBI lying inside our government. The fact that no Democrat cares about that. And I'm saying this is. Have grown up a lifelong Democrat. This should not. How is this. This political? How is it. There's zero curiosity amongst Democrats on this obscure moment where we're locked in our homes, masked down, our rights taken away. But you're right, I refer to Covid in many ways as like the parting of the Red Sea. You know, I feel like Bobby and me and Andy and those of us. Sherry Tampani. I never want to start a list because there's so many amazing people that are going to be left out, but we were all charging, trying to lead people to some outcome of change. Right? Pharaoh. I think about this like Moses and Pharaoh and you know, there's a river there. You know, you're being chased by the middle. Like you don't have a plan. You're just going, God's got. I gotta believe God's got this. Because on paper, it looked like we had no way to win. We had no way we were going to wake up in the. Enough people. I always said we're playing a game of chicken with the powers of pharma and the globalist system. And those of us running at them saying, we're gonna beat you, we're gonna beat you. Not knowing. And I always knew. I always did say it's gonna come down to when they finally bring an adult vaccine mandate. That is the moment. I liken it to the Braveheart moment where the guy next to Mel Gibson's character keeps saying, I'm the Irish guy. It's my Ireland. It's my Ireland's with us. It's Ireland. And like, whatever. He seems like a lunatic. And there's this moment where the Scots in the movie. I'm a big movie guy, obviously, you know, and the whole mountainside is covering with British armada. They're totally outnumbered. And then they raise their flags and all of a sudden all the Irish leave the British and come and join the Scots. I always felt like that was going to be the moment they asked for, they went for the adult mandate. I said, that'll be the moment. We're going to wave our flag, say we've been here the whole time, we've been fighting this the whole time, and they'll come to us. That's what Covid did. It really was that moment. 30% of America, 30% of the world rejected that vaccine. Those in our movement that got the vaccine just so that they could pay for their family, they could keep their job. And so in many ways, Bobby, none of us knew how we were gonna get enough people to meet this head on game of chicken. And then suddenly Covid came and this river that should have stopped us, this parts and we're able to move through and gained momentum like we have never seen. I've said Robert Kennedy Jr. Is not HHS secretary for 50 more years without Covid. And so I say that it's why there's plenty in my story that I told the other day about Vax that makes me know that God's hand is in this. But just that alone, that's God. And that's where God can be brutal. There are so many loved ones we're going to lose. There are things that we cannot understand, the size of what's going on. But I really, truly believe God is pissed off. I joke. I don't think God usually chooses sides. I think we're given freedom to make up our decisions. But right now, the amount of miracles that are moving our direction, the amount that's happening, I feel like we're getting a little bit of a push, a little bit of help. We're being given guidance and everyone should really listen to that guidance. Wake up in the morning, just say, how can I help? And you're going to get a thought. It'll probably seem crazy. Say yes and do it. That's my message.
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That's fantastic. No, his ways are not our ways. But again, I think what you shared a few weeks ago was about not laying low. And your father was suggesting that you lay low. I know you don't have time to go into that whole story, but can you leave a parting message for our listeners about the reason not to lay low?
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Well, I'll tell that story very quickly. Well, so my dad was a minister. He raised me believing that I could change the world. I had an amazing upbringing My mom, probably even a bigger part of that, guiding us to always question authority and do what was right. And when I left for Hollywood, my dad wanted me to be a minister. But he said, you know, Hollywood demeans the human spirit. If you're going to go there, lift us up. So the moment I was sitting in Andy Wakefield's basement and I watched this documentary that I realized in that moment, this movie needs exactly what I've just learned to do in my 10 years with Dr. Phil and the doctors. It was like my life passed before my eyes. I wanted to be Steven Spielberg. Instead, I'm working on a medical talk show. Why that moment in his basement, this was why I really felt like I'd been being trained by God for this very specific task. I would even say not only was I qualified, I thought to myself, I think I'm the most qualified human being in the entire world for this really specific task right here. So the first person I called was my wife to tell her, I'm probably about think I'm about to destroy my television career. Because doing this will be the end of everything that we've built so far. But I just know this is what I'm supposed to do. And luckily, and again, my wife Lee, just that support has made all this possible. And if anyone sacrificed, it's my wife, my kids. But she said, of course I'm with you, Del. Whatever you feel guided to do, let's do this. But then I called my dad. And my father, I expected to say I told him the whole story where I was Andy Wakefield, the vaccine issue, autism. And he just said, don't do it. I'm on the phone. I was like, what do you mean, don't do it? And he said, del, I know. I feel like I put you up to this. I told you you could change the world. But there are moments where you're just going to put a target on your back. And I've told you, there are moments that you do what's right. There's other moments where you just lay low. Don't be the center of it. There's no winning this. It's too big, you know, when he said, lay low, I had this image, I've told this before, but where I crouched down in this tall grass and I had this image of, like, Nazi tanks rolling across a dirt road. I'm hiding in the grass, laying low. And then there was a motorcycle sidecar. Just images that were pumped into me through Nazi movies. But just as they were supposed to disappear in the distance, I Started hearing branches and sticks breaking. Really weird that this happened. It was all on the phone. It was like time stopped. And I realized they're surrounding me. And I then said to my dad, dad, laying low only works if you can actually hide. And this thing will leave you alone. But the truth is we're surrounded. They're coming for everything. I know I wasn't vaccinated. You didn't vaccinate me. That way of life is about to end. They know who I am. They know where I live. They're coming for us. And so I said, you also taught me if we were ever abducted as kids, we should take our first opportunity to escape. He used to sit us down as kids and you know, I was the oldest and my little brother, my sister, you know, he'd say, okay, if someone abducts you, what did I say? He would say, well, you know, we take our best opportunity to escape. He's like, no, no, no, no. I didn't say your best opportunity. I said, your first opportunity. Because the longer they have you, the better they have you. He's like, we learned this in the military. You escape at your first opportunity. So do you remember when you said that to me, dad? He's like, yeah. I said, well, we are trapped. We have been captured. And I am. I said about Vax, I have found an ICBM missile laying in the middle of this field and I am going to pick it up and I'm going to fire it at this darkness and I am going to fight like hell. And that's why I'm going to do this. And he said, well, then God be with you. And I say that we are surrounded. This world is. We're going to see in our lifetime. We could lose everything we know to be freedom. So hiding at this point or being safe at this point is futile. You are not protecting yourself or your family from anything. You are just delaying what will be inevitable if you stay quiet. Only by rising up, which is what you're talking about. Only by recognizing, hey, if I'm surrounded by, then let me find the biggest twerp in this circle and charge it and fight like hell. We've got to find the weaknesses. That's what we're doing. And we're going to get Bobby and we're going to get Aaron Seri. And that'll last so long. I never get defeated. Those moments last. They come, they go. Some of it works, some of it doesn't. Every day. But the most powerful weapon we have in this battle is our voice. And if we lose this voice in America, if we lose our first amendment rights, this will all be over. Everything that our founding fathers dreamt will be over. And just like any muscle, if we don't use it, we're going to lose it. So use it. Tell your story. Be brave. Be bold. Be honest. We all need to be able to have these difficult conversations now. Our lives, our species, our future depends on it. And to every child that's been injured by this program, my prayers are with you. I fight for you. I fight for your families. I know Bobby is. I know Andy will never stop. We're all in this together.
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Dale Bigtree, thank you so much for joining us and for sharing this message. Keep doing what you're doing. Again, I am so grateful that you are in this fight for us.
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Absolutely. Thank you.
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Hosts: Len Arcuri, Cass Arcuri
Guest: Del Bigtree (Founder of Informed Consent Action Network, host of The High Wire, executive producer of "Vaxxed" and "An Inconvenient Study")
Date: June 11, 2026
This week’s episode, “You Are Being Called To RISE,” features Del Bigtree, an outspoken advocate for medical freedom and informed consent. The discussion centers on empowering parents of autistic children to rise above challenges with courage, honesty, and community—especially amid controversy and system mistrust. Del shares the origins of his advocacy, emphasizes the importance of sharing personal stories, and offers a call to action for sustained, courageous engagement in the fight for parental and bodily autonomy.
On parents' courage:
“Those are the most incredible individuals walking this earth today. I’m able to do what I do because there was a movement built before I got here.” — Del Bigtree [03:00]
On telling your story:
“We all need to be able to have these difficult conversations now. Our lives, our species, our future depends on it.” — Del Bigtree [36:20]
On loss and faith:
“God’s hand is in this… But just that alone, that’s God. And that’s where God can be brutal. There are so many loved ones we’re going to lose… but I really, truly believe God is pissed off.” — Del Bigtree [30:40]
Del’s closing charge:
“We are surrounded. This world is… we’re going to see in our lifetime… we could lose everything we know to be freedom. So hiding at this point… is futile. The most powerful weapon we have in this battle is our voice. And if we lose this voice… if we lose our First Amendment rights, this will all be over. So use it. Tell your story. Be brave. Be bold. Be honest.” [35:40]
Len’s wrap-up:
“Your child needs you. Running on all cylinders now. And the fastest way to rise is with personalized one on one support.” [37:26]
This episode is a passionate, personal call for parents and advocates to step up, tell their truth, and challenge the status quo without fear or shame—because how you navigate truly matters.