What if the secret to a well-behaved child isn’t more control, but less? In this grounded and eye-opening recap, Lesley Logan and Brad Crowell break down key takeaways from Gail Hugman, an educator with over 50 years of experience helping parents and children grow together. This episode challenges the traditional “because I said so” approach, offering a fresh perspective on how teaching executive function skills—like self-control and focus—can help kids take ownership of their actions. Whether you're navigating homework struggles or leading a team, this conversation offers tools to build responsibility and independence.

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In this episode you will learn about:

Explaining the "why" behind tasks improves cooperation and understanding.
Children are intuitively born to grow and desire more responsibility.
Transitioning from controlling children to teaching them internal self-control.
Using natural consequences to help children process their own choices.
The essential order for teaching executive function skills to children.

Episode References/Links:

Contrology Pilates Conference (Wroclaw, Poland) - xxll.co/poland
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Pilates On Tour® (London, UK) - xxll.co/pot
OPC Spring Training (Virtual Event) - opc.me/events
Gail Hugman's Website - https://www.lessonsalive.com
Can Contemporary Pilates Be Done on Classical Equipment - https://beitpod.com/classicalequipment
What are the Best Pilates Books - https://youtu.be/JhBVaT2Umfw?si=ieeWA5_L-gvzrq5E
Best Pilates Books from Lesley Logan - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=example
Ep. 262 with Adrian Koehler - https://beitpod.com/ep262
Contrology Handbook by Sandy Shimoda - https://www.pilates.com/products/contrology-handbook
Get to Know Joe Pilates by Cathy Strack - https://cathystrack.com/product/get-to-know-joe-pilates
Gail Hugman’s Website - https://www.lessonsalive.com
Gail Hugman’s Books - theendlessbookcase.com

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Episode Transcript:

Brad Crowell 0:00

Listening to her stories, you know, she is intentional about giving people the tools, like you were just talking about the tools to develop as a child, to grow into the adult that joins the the pack, right, the society, right? And when you are empowering them with the tools, then they can make decisions that are logical and all those kinds of things, instead of just be like, I guess, like, like, think about it. If you're just like, do it. Why? Because I said so. What are you doing? You're actually, you're actually molding a human to always be told what to do.

Lesley Logan 0:37

Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.

Lesley Logan 1:19

Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the grounded convo I have with Gail Hugman. Hugman.

Brad Crowell 1:27

Hugman.

Lesley Logan 1:28

Yeah, that's right. I'm like, sorry, Gail. I know you're listening, but you know when you're like, oh, all of a sudden, hold on. Did I miss a G, H, whatever. Gail Hugman, she's fucking the best it was in our last episode.

Brad Crowell 1:38

The two of you. So I listen everything on like, 2x speed. And if I could, I'd probably try to listen to it on 3x speed. And the two of you were like, giggle monsters.

Lesley Logan 1:47

I'm obsessed with her. Like, I and I was like, when Brad came up, he was halfway through her interview, and he's like, this is amazing. And I was like, Oh, good, because I did go for a second going, am I about to, like, get all the parents to hate me out there, like, like, I don't want to be, because here's the deal, I understand, I don't have children. I get that. I don't understand the day to day. I can't even imagine the cell phone conversation I my kids. I'll just tell you right now, here's where I'd be. They would hate us. They would have a flip phone with those heavy batteries so big it wouldn't fit in their pocket. Like, no inte...

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