We’re living in a culture of division.
So how do you follow Jesus…when you deeply disagree with someone?

In this conversation, John Ortberg sits down with Condoleezza Rice to explore how faith shapes the way we navigate politics, disagreement, and relationships.

Together, they unpack:
- Why it’s so hard to love your “opponents”
- How to disagree without losing respect
- The role of humility, curiosity, and friendship
- And why prayer may be the most important habit of all

Because following Jesus doesn’t remove disagreement…but it transforms how we live within it.

📚 Today's Resources:
Condoleeza Rice, Extraordinary, Ordinary People: A Memoir of Family
Ralph David Abernathy, And the Walls Came Tumbling Down: An Autobiography
Stephen B. Oates, Let the Trumpet Sound: The Life of Martin Luther King Jr.
David J. Carrow, Bearing the Cross

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50. Dr. Condoleezza Rice on Navigating Political Division