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Welcome to the Bellied up podcast, ladies and gentlemen, I am your host, Charlie Barrons. I'm here with my good friend, my companion, my occasional lover, Miles, that you bet you guy. And it's football season, Miles.
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It is.
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Green Bay packers, baby. We got the packers doing hot. We got the brewers doing hot, man.
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How do you do hot?
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Oh, you do hot, baby. We don't even need ascertain from preseason what's going on. We got golden, our new wide receiver, first round draft pick. See some of those catches, Miles? Unreal. And you know, love is going to have a good year. I can feel it already. We got a running game and the Lions, who were cranking in the NFC while their offensive coordinator went to what, Chicago. They're defensive to the Jets. I mean, how is it you become a great team team and then you dismantle it? You know, money talks. Money talks. But that's fine.
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To the packers after they won the super bowl in like 2010 or whatever.
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It's been a long, strange trip. It's been. I don't know, Miles. We've had a lot of ups and downs since then. Okay. And it was 2011, technically 2010 season, but, you know.
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All right, okay, so here we go. This is going. This is the new segment I like to call Charlie Barron's Packer Preview. What's going to happen this year? If you are. If you have a crystal ball in front of you, Charlie, how's the season going to go?
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I'm going to tell you guys the same thing I said back in 2010.
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Okay.
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All right.
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2010, I was in Las Vegas when the Badgers, Wisconsin Badgers, were playing unlv. I was having a good run at the casino after the game. I watched it from a fence because I couldn't afford a ticket. I had more money in my minivan gas tank that I did in my bank account, as was usual back in those days. But the money I did have, I pulled out, which historically has never worked. But I put it on Blackjack and boom, one, one. Right away I turned my 150 into $300 or $75 into $150 is what I did. And so, you know, I had the voice of my Grandpa Bob in my head saying, walk, walk. So I walked and I walked right.
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Into the sports book.
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And then I had the voice of my Grandma sue, well, maybe one more. And I put it all on the packers to win the Super Bowl.
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All 150 bucks.
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$150. Now, I was drinking at the Time I didn't. I forgot that that was all the money I had, period. But I put it all on it and I got a ticket, as was the way in the day. I didn't, I didn't have a card. So I put the ticket in my pocket and from there I proceeded.
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You were wearing these jeans, which has a hole in the pocket. And what happened?
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All I remember, dude, it was just. It was pool party after that one thing. I was going with my buddies. My buddies were rich back then, so I didn't. Money, you know. Yeah.
B
Like, oh, Charlie's a good time. We know he's not gonna pay for anything.
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Yeah, I was good times Charlie back then. Yeah. And these guys were older than me, they were 27, they had jobs, they had disposable income, you know.
B
And you were like the wild card friend.
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We got bottle service.
B
Like if we don't bring Charlie, how are we gonna get any stories out of the weekend?
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Right?
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Him there doing dumb like taking all of his money out of his bank account and put him on the packers to win the Super Bowl.
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It's exactly the kind of guy I was back then, you know. And anyways, you know, the night went on as nights were in Vegas and things left to one to another and we were staying at the Wynn. I was staying on the floor in my. In my friend's place, but he didn't give me a key so I ended up sleeping in my car. But anyways, I was over at Caesars. Now that was a walk down the strip. And I was fed up and over all of Vegas at this point. If you've ever been in Las Vegas Awake at 2, 3am you'd just want to be anywhere other than Las Vegas. So I was walking home because obviously I wasn't going to pay for a taxicab and I was just frustratedly cleaning out my pockets and I didn't think anything of it. And then as the season went on, the packers were winning and then they lost and then they lost to the Lions. So it was like they got no shot at the Super Bowl. And I was calling my uncle Denny because my uncle Denny, I called him from Vegas. When I put money on, I actually, I think I was going to save some of my money. That was the deal. But my uncle Danny said put 50 down for me, so I couldn't resist. So me and Uncle Denny through the season, we chit chat about that money that we had down on the packers to win the Super Bowl. And we gave up after the Lions and I kept Thinking about that ticket. Maybe I should look for it. But after the Lions, I said I didn't need to. And then they got to the super bowl and uncle Denny called me after, and he said, we're rich. You know, that would have been a $3,000 payout at the time. That would have increase my net worth by 3,000 times. And I tore up that minivan, man, I didn't find that ticket. And all I can. All I can ascertain is that it ended up in one of those garbage cans. I even called the casino. I said, can you go back and check your security cameras from this day? Actually, no, it might have been this day. And they said, sir, we can't. We can't do that. You got to have your ticket. I still think about that. But, yeah, I would put all my money on the packers to win the super bowl this year.
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So that's the moral of the story.
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Yeah.
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Take all the money you have in your bank account and go put it on the packers to win the super bowl this year.
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Yeah. Yep.
B
All right, well, why don't you put your money where your mouth is?
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Well, I'm not going to do it. That'd be really stupid. But, you know, if you don't have a lot, you don't have a lot to lose some to think about.
B
Now, just think that was in 2010. So that have been, what, 14 years ago. You. If you to put that on the s and P500, it would be $12,000 now.
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Wow. That's some cash, man. That's some cash. So a lot of pretzel rolling money out of bikes to be fixed. A lot of brats to be flipped, A lot of lawns to be cut.
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A lot of stripper poles to swing on.
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Yeah. You know how much I made that day? $75.
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Like, you would have done much better if you just became a stripper.
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I know, I know. I just remember. Do you ever. You ever wake up in a money panic?
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You know, I used to.
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Yeah.
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It's like, dude, I. I was staring down the barrel of the IRS before I started doing all of this, because we had a. Like, we would do marketing services for people in Fargo.
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Yeah.
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And we made. I think I made $20,000 in one year. And when you make $20,000 and live in a place to live and have to pay rent and stuff, there's no money left over to pay taxes.
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No.
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So then I was stressing come tax season, I'm like, all that money's gone.
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Yeah.
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Spent. So I had to Just weasel my way, file an extension, figure it out. I got it paid. But yeah, that was. That was tough. Tough moment for me.
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Yeah. The worst is getting. Yeah. Yeah. When you're just doing whatever for money, you know, because you can't. You can't just borrow money. A lot of times, like, you don't have friends, especially younger, you don't have friends who have money.
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Correct.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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And I. I mean, I'm not gonna ask my dad for money. You don't do that, you know, but. Yeah, I put you in that panic.
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You're starting an independent contracting business. Make sure you leave some money for taxes at the end of the year. It's all psa.
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Yeah.
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I learned that the hard way.
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I know, but it's never fun to make a tax account, you know?
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Oh, yeah, I was. I was actually talking to a guy who, when he first became an accountant, he moonlight as the TurboTax live advice guy. So I got TurboTax. You can call in, like, if you have a question while you're filling out your own taxes. You can live chat with, like, a CPA on TurboTax. And he did that. And after the conversation, I was like, I don't think anyone should be doing their taxes on TurboTax. Like, not only do. I probably didn't know what I was doing, he seemed to be like, yeah, they just like, gave me a webcam and just told me, start giving out advice. And he's like, I was brand new. I didn't know about taxes.
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Oh, my God. Dude, that. That. That is the wildest thing too. That. That. That's what can happen there. Because they have audit protection, you know, like, if you get audited there, they've got some insurance on that. You ever been audited, Miles?
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, every year. I feel like.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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You get audited every year?
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Not probably. Not every year, but a lot of years.
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Really? I didn't know that. I got audited once.
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I've had to pay some money in because, you know, it's. Yeah. Write off something you should have wrote off, but you just pay back.
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Yeah. You know.
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Yeah, I got audit once. I didn't make much money at all. Like $30,000 that year. And I was your first thought is.
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This is a waste of your time.
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I did. I know.
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Trying to get 300 bucks.
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I'm like, out of me, dude. I'm broke. Like, let's say you win. Like, it's. I'm gonna need a payment plan, you know, and they. They got, I think $800 back and they gotta. I got a payment plan.
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It's like, all right, I can pay $8 a month for the next.
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Yeah, yeah.
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10 years.
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Yeah. How do we get on this? Are we still in the intro or are we just chitchatting? We got a. Folks, we got a big episode coming for you today. We got some callers. It's going to be fun, man. It's going to be fun. So go packers and put your money.
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All on the green and gold.
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But legally, I got to tell you, don't take my advice for anything.
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Yeah, this is fake advice.
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Yeah, this was for funsies. What's up? My guy here, you want to date someone and they might be.
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I'm married.
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No, it's the other way around. He knows someone that wants to get dated.
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Oh, well, I screwed the pooch on that. Aiden, we'll belly up to the bar. I hear your younger sister wants to date your best friend. Yikes. Did they meet at the wedding?
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Actually, yeah. That's where they kind of hit it off again. And then at my birthday as well.
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On your birthday as well?
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Times have they hit it off. And were you the last to know they're dating off? Yeah. What kind of hitting off are we talking about?
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Conversation wise, they keep it polite.
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I got some news for you right now, Aidan. You only know the tip of the iceberg with that, so.
C
Okay, where are you going with that?
B
So your best friend and your sister hit it off of your wedding and then again at your birthday, and now you're staring down the barrel of is my buddy gonna date my sister?
C
Yeah, but also, you know, he's. He's also has his eyes on my best friend's wife's friend as well. Oh. So I was having a. A query on how can I tell him? Because he's a great guy. Like, how can I tell him he's allowed to date my sister while also not, like, inconveniencing him by making him feel he can't pursue this other gal that he's looking at, you know?
B
Okay, so you actually would be okay with him dating your sister?
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Yeah, he's a great guy. Is a. The stereotypical 65 finance. He's 6 4, but.
B
All right, here's a question for you. Why did you feel the need to lie about his height?
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Well, it's a. It's a social media thing. I. I don't have social media.
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Oh, yeah. Six five, blue eyes. Yeah, yeah.
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Blue eyes fan.
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Yeah. Yeah, I see. Yeah, he's like, I'm a Fish out of water here. I tried. It didn't work.
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Yeah, I caught on. I sounded familiar. Yeah, but like. So, like. But did you tell your buddy, okay, you can go for my sister, but you can't be like, you know, trying to get.
B
Yeah, because everyone's a good guy, Charlie, until they start dating your sister. Yeah.
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Yeah. Wild.
B
And. Okay, so what is the conversations you've had with your sister about them?
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Oh, you know, she's all giggly about it and, you know, her eyes are going everywhere and she's definitely interested in them. She's had a couple boyfriends and I've never seen her talk like, you know that about them like she does for my best friend, so.
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Oh, no.
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And how long has he been your best friend?
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Oh, I mean, we were pouring dirt on each other's heads and diapers, so, you know, a long time.
B
Oh, is it your younger sister?
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Yeah, my younger sister.
B
So she's had a crush on him is her whole life.
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That's a possibility.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Okay. And tell us about your. Your wife.
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He's just realizing that. Yeah. Do you hear that?
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Huh? Yeah. I mean, they've been hitting it off since diapers is what it sounds like.
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So what's the age, G?
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I think it's only a few years. Yeah.
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Okay, tell us about your wife's in laws, friends, whatever that was again. That gal.
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Oh, yeah. So. So my other best friend's wife, it's. It's her best friend. He's. He's brought it up in conversation only a few times, like you kind of nudging them, like, hey, you know, have your wife introduce me to this gal, you know, because she seems pretty nice, but other than talking to my sister, he hasn't said much about her either. So I don't know where the interest is on his end.
B
Yeah, so I get. Yeah. And. And what? And you're wondering what you should say to your buddy to give them the okay that he can date your sister, Right?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, Charlie, typical Midwest fashion, you have younger sisters.
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How would you thinking about it right now, Miles? Because I've had a friend.
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Yeah, well, I was just saying hypothetical here. Obviously, I am married, happily married. But let's say I'm your single friend and I want to date one of your sisters.
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Feldman. Feldman matched with my sister on Tinder.
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Tinder, Yep.
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So Feldman is Charlie's buddy. Wasn't he in our. Our one of our first videos?
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Yeah, he was in the Guys in a Bar.
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He looks like who again?
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He looks like Paul Ryan. He Looks like Paul Ryan with a big mole.
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Yeah. And he was in the. He was an extra in our Guys in a Small Town bar video we shot in Hudson, Wisconsin. So I know Feldman.
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Feldman's a great guy. And honestly, I take Feldman as. As a best or a brother in law, too.
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He was gonna say best man, and then it was like, actually.
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But it had changed the dynamic of the friendship, because now you're playing with fire. Because, like, historically speaking, relationships don't work out, you know? Um, and now we're talking, like, you know, now you got your best friends. Now you're putting the friendship kind of on the line, you know, a little bit, because let's say it goes wrong, you're not going to choose your friend over your sister unless your sister really screwed the pooch. But, you know, and it's. Sometimes they can end amicably, but I'd steer them honestly toward your wife's friend. Friend or whatever. But if he. If. If it is gonna go down the way of your sister, you just gotta say, I don't want to hear anything about it ever.
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Yeah, I mean, maybe. Maybe do that. Paint him a picture, right?
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Yeah.
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Hey, dude, we get to get together. You know, we're drinking in the garage and we got locker room talk. You know, we're throwing around funny jokes.
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Locker room talk.
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You know, locker room. You know, shooting the.
A
Oh, yeah, okay.
B
Ever. Guy you. You weren't good enough to play high school sports.
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Okay. While that is true.
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You know.
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Yeah.
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Guys being dudes in the locker room, chatting it up, you know, talking about the ladies in their life and just, like, be like, hey, do you really want to lose that part of our friendship? Because that's one of the best parts. Are you ready to lose that part of your friend?
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Oh, I mean, well, I guess the hesitation says that, but, you know, it's difficult because I want him to follow his heart, but now since he. He saved my sister's life down in. Down in Nashville, so she kind of sees him on a. Like a knight in shining armor now.
A
All right. Right. Really?
B
You're making this guy seem like he's Clark Kent and like he's Superman.
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Here.
B
What's. What do you mean he saved her.
C
Life like Superman's little brother?
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How do you just bring that up right now?
B
Yeah. What. What did he do?
C
Well, I left it in the voicemail, but so we.
B
See, we don't get to hear the voicemail because we want to hear it all for the first time here on the Bellied up podcast. That's Jared. Jared's the only one that gets to see that.
A
Okay, Jared sent the voicemail.
B
Both of us also. He's not getting that frustrated with us. He's like, jesus, guys, I already went over this.
A
Ye.
B
I mean, at what point?
A
I mean, this is our show here, my man. You know, you're. You're a great guest, by the way.
B
But.
A
Yeah, let's hear the story. Come on.
C
All right, so she goes down to Nashville, Tennessee.
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Yeah.
C
We got a concert with her friend. Yeah. So around Was it midnight? 1am her friend, who's no longer her friend anymore, decides she wants to go off with a guy. So she tells my sister, hey, I'm gonna call you an Uber. I wanna be alone. And my sister just kind of stands there, like, okay, so the Uber doesn't come. She's sitting down in, like, downtown Nashville for an hour or two, you know, drunk people everywhere. Not a great place for a young lady to be. And, you know, she. She remembers a conversation she had with my best friend at my birthday because he's going down to Nashville as well for a concert with his buddy. So basically, she calls him up and he picks her up and drives her all the way home. And.
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Huge question. Does your. Does your sister have a flip phone?
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No.
B
So why couldn't she just call her own Uber?
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Same question.
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Oh, because the. I think her phone and her wallet and stuff, her friend had it. She didn't realize that. And that's why she couldn't, like, fly home or anything. So she had to get her wallet and stuff later back from her friend.
B
Yeah. So how did he. She call him?
C
Oh, wait a minute. Oh, I guess she had her phone.
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Shared phone, probably. Her. Her wallet was with her friend, and the credit card wasn't loaded on her phone. Been there.
B
That's a likely story. Charlie, you see where I'm going?
A
Well, I see where you're going, but let's get the other facts.
B
Pretty convenient on some of these things here.
A
Yeah. So she.
B
They're both conveniently in Nashville. Conveniently she's not with this mythical friend anymore. They're no longer friends. Convenient that she disappears. Convenient she has her phone, can't call her own Uber, but has to call this guy instead. Charlie, do you see where. Going with.
A
There's a few too many coincidences here for us to say it's just coincidental. But, Miles, we don't know all the facts, so let's not pass judgment.
B
All I'm saying is, if you have this conversation with your buddy, he might just be like, you know what, dude? I got to come clean. We've been dating for like four years. We just. You know.
C
I want to be upset hearing that. I mean, a little bit, because you've been dating other guys in the past four years, but that's why you haven't told them.
A
Yeah, I don't think we should tell your brother yet, you know? All right, so.
B
So I'm so scared to tell my brother. You should just pretend to date some other girls for a while to throw him off the scent.
A
What if he actually was, you know, that was it.
C
Yeah, that'd be crazy.
A
That's two twists. All right, so she's in the car with your buddy. And.
C
And he basically sleeps the whole way home. And his buddy drives all the way back, which he thought they were going to take turns, but my body can be a heavy sleeper, so. And. And that was that pretty much.
A
That's not saving life, dude. That's being an Uber.
B
Yeah, so. So what you're telling me is your sister and your friend drove all the way back from Nashville. He didn't drive once. And he told you that he slept all 14 hours home? Charlie, when was the last time you slept 14 hours straight?
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I think when I was a baby. A baby? Maybe.
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Yeah.
C
That was her side of the story and his side of the story.
B
Yeah, they have 14 hours to figure out.
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How.
C
I'll have to ask my buddy's friend to see if that is actually what.
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Was going on, if he even exists.
A
So, wait a second, man. They. He picked her up from a bar at bar time, and they drove through the night home?
C
No, she. She was. She was on the streets of Nashville trying to, you know, and he picked.
B
Her up and drove all the way home. What about her stuff at the hotel?
C
You know, she didn't talk about that.
A
Can I. Can I.
C
Also from her friend later, I think is what she said.
A
Okay, can I also just say the streets of Nashville. I'm assuming she was on Broadway, which is basically just a big bar.
C
Like the whole street is a big drunk people everywhere. Yeah, that's what she is saying.
A
Yeah, but it's in the Times. I've been there. And maybe it's different. It. Miles, we were just there. Did it seem like a dangerous place to be?
B
Not specifically.
A
We're guys, so.
B
Yeah, we're guys, so we can't really talk to that.
A
Thanks for rescuing.
B
But I think you're focusing on the fact that if that was scenario was even true. And I just am having a hard time. It's just Too many things are lining up here. I don't know.
A
What it sounds like is your buddy took your sister home from the bar.
B
He quite literally slept with your sister in the car.
C
Well, there's a little play on words. I see what you're doing technicality here.
B
That's technically true. You can't argue with that.
C
Technically true. There was some sleeping around in the car.
A
Well, look, I mean, Aiden, I think your sister is dating your friend, and I think that's beautiful.
C
Yeah, I mean, I'd take him as a brother. That'd be awesome.
B
Why don't you just tell him that right there? Just come right from.
C
Yeah, I mean. I mean, I don't respect the fibbing, but I can see from their point of view why they might be. I don't know if they have these delusions of grandeur, like they're covering up a bank robbery, like they're dating. Just, you know, come out with it.
B
Also, Charlie, he. He. He's just finally considering the fact that they may have not told them the full truth.
C
He.
A
Are you just concerning that or if you have that crossed your mind before?
C
No, that's never crossed.
A
I can't tell if he's screwing with us right now.
B
I feel a little bad if I did, you know, burst his bubble a little there, but.
A
People aren't always completely honest.
C
Question.
A
What's that?
C
What'd you say? Sharon?
A
No, I just says people aren't always completely honest with the ones they love the most.
C
Yeah, that's true.
A
Yeah, we get fearful of hurting each other.
B
Yeah. I think, after all, just. Just say, hey, what's going on with you? My sister. I just want to let you know that if you did want to date her, is totally cool. Dude, why don't you just say that to him?
C
Yeah, just tell them up front, you.
A
Know, why do I feel like you're scrolling through items on Craigslist?
B
Yeah, it feels like he's on Facebook, marketplace, looking for, like, a lawnmower.
A
You can hear in the way he's laughing right now. That's exactly what he's doing.
B
He's like, yeah.
A
How many people do we just make bored on this God dang thing? You know, we're supposed to have an audience that's entertained right now.
C
You know, I have a lot of questions going through my head right now.
A
Yeah, I'm sure you do.
B
We're just. We burst.
C
Yeah. Like, do I buy this mower or not?
A
Oh, frick you, Aiden. Listen, your sister's dating your buddy, all right? And they've been doing it for a while, so.
B
Yeah, dude, my eyes were glazing over a little bit when you were going over some details, so don't act like you are just so engaging either, Aiden.
C
Yeah, yeah, no, I, I get that, you know.
A
All right, well listen, if that, if that mower don't work out, you call us back if you want to buy, sell or trade it. All right, pal?
C
Alrighty.
A
All right.
C
All righty.
A
Sounds good. Get a bagger. Actually don't. They're a waste of money. See you. Dude.
B
How many times in your life do you say stuff and immediately go back on it? A lot, dude.
A
A bagger sucks. Like my grandma just wanted to get a bagger yesterday and she was like, should I get. I was like, no, it's just we just gotta cut the grass more.
B
And you just should have said I. What are you doing buying a beggar at your age? Well, you're basically buying me a bagger.
A
You know, my aunt, my aunt makes those jokes.
B
Just buying a beggar that I gotta split with all my siblings, you know, that's the whole thing, you know, at least put my name in the will for it.
A
My aunt makes those jokes all the time. My grandma will throw it back in her face. We should take you to a home. That's great. All right, well, yeah, that dude's definitely dating his sister. Also Saved her life by picking her up from a bar. Dude, come on.
B
Just a classic fib. Not like Illinois fib, like, like white lie fib by them. They organized the trip to Nashville together, went through all these hoops. And then of course he's gonna distract from ever thinking that it was something else by saying that he saved my life.
A
Oh yeah. I bet you that he found out accidentally that they were driven back from Nashville. That they drove in the same car. I bet someone told them, told him that they saw them or something and then they. They're like, he saved my life.
B
Yeah.
A
And then they gotta backtrack it. Well, I was at the bar. I was with my friend.
B
Yeah, she was with her friend. I was at a concert.
A
Yeah.
B
And we knew we were gonna be.
A
There because we would suck together at your wed birthday party. And you know, nothing happened.
B
Nothing. I slept with. And I was in the back seat.
A
Yes.
B
And no hand signals were used the whole trip.
A
The whole trip.
B
Yep. It was once the blinker worked. Yeah.
A
And.
B
And it was my first.
A
First pregnancy. We're pregnant. It was an immaculate concep.
B
So yeah. That was just crazy. Saved my life.
A
Yeah. Save my little Clark Kent, Like Clark Kent's brother? Yeah.
B
Also yeah. There's no way we're dating. I'm actually interested in your sister, your wife's sister's brothers in law's friend actually. And I've been dating women for the last four years. That is not your sister. So yeah, that was it. That's. What a quinky dink, huh? What a quinky dink.
A
Is he messing with us? You have some callers that call and you're like, man, you're messing with me, dude.
B
I, I mean he definitely checked out in the last third of that thing. He was definitely looking on his phone at like something.
A
Oh yeah, he was probably like. He's probably looking at like her Instagram wondering why she hasn't accepted his friend request yet.
B
She's still private to him.
A
Looking at his too. Also private. I Wonder Woman. He's putting all these dots together.
B
He was looking on Snap map to see their locations where they sure get coffee at the same spot a lot. It's a lot of coincidences.
A
They live in the same apartment building. How is that possible?
B
It says they're in the same apartment, but he must be on floor number five and she's on three.
A
God bless you, Aiden.
B
Good luck. Should we take another caller, Charlie? Let's do it, Charlie. You know what? I love Labor Day. I think it's kind of the bridge between summer and fall. It's a bittersweet time. And with that emotion comes a lot of traveling babies. And unfortunately, there can be a lot of accidents that can happen on Labor Day, especially when everyone's trying to go home from the lake.
A
Oh, I thought you were talking about giving labor.
B
Oh, yeah. Oh, no, I don't participate in Labor Day. That's only my wife.
A
My sister was born on a Labor Day. I mean, isn't it wild?
B
I mean, what a shame. Your mom had to work on Labor Day.
A
Yeah, she did. She had to really put in the hours, man. A lot of pushing. But yeah, man. I mean, things can happen on Labor Day and they're not always expected and they're not always welcome. And sometimes they involve accidental injuries. Right, Miles? And so what do we do in moments like that?
B
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A
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A
That's not all we're gonna be sharing, Miles. Ride together, die together.
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B
Brad.
C
Happy to talk to you guys.
B
Oh, you cut out there for a second.
A
Thank God. Brad, we were. We were afraid we lost you there.
C
I know. Is this better? I don't know. I got like, one bar.
B
Okay, well, don't move now.
C
Yeah, I'm staying still.
B
Okay. Well, Brad, I heard you wanted to call in and talk a little white collar versus blue collar and all the things involved with that. It's on your mind.
C
Yeah, mine was there. I mean, when you're down in blue collar, you know, and when you're up in white collar, I guess, you know, but what happens when you're in the.
A
Limbo there when you're between a blue and a white collar? You're going to Catholic school.
C
Yeah, born and raised. That was Catholic school.
A
Brad, you sound a little bit robotic right now.
B
Is there anywhere you can go with better service?
A
Brad, can you see a hill?
C
I'll just. I'll keep walking around until you can hear me. How about that?
A
Well, right now we can hear you.
C
Yeah. Oh, that's perfect. I'm standing on top of a stump.
A
Good.
B
Okay, stay there. Stump it is. All right, so what. Repeat that again.
C
I mean, like, when you're a blue collar worker, I think, you know, you're a blue collar worker, right? But when you're a white collar worker, do you Know that you're a white collar worker. I mean, like, I feel like the, the lines are pretty blurry there for, for a certain income level, you know?
B
Yeah. First question. Are you a white collar worker or blue collar worker?
C
That's actually a great question because I feel like I just left a blue collar job and tomorrow I start a white collar job. Okay, what's perfect time for you guys to call?
A
What's a blue collar? What's the white collar, in your opinion?
C
Blue collar. I was delivering beer. Like local beer.
B
Yep.
C
Out of a van or a box truck. Yeah. Steel toes and stuff. And then white collar. I'm quality engineer.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. I mean, the, the engineer aspect kind of floats a little bit in the blue collar realm, but I think it's definitely a white collar job. Don't you think, Charles?
A
Yeah, I think so.
B
I mean, I think so. Wait, you're. You're telling me you're. You're one of the guys that made it out? Yeah.
C
I guess. Yeah.
B
Not every blue collar job is like this, but when I was working concrete, it'd always be like, oh, so and so. Finally made it out. Working a job that they don't hate every single day.
C
That's literally the conversation I had with my co workers once I left, like, last Friday.
B
Yeah. It's like, it's like. It was like Matt Damon on Goodwill.
A
Yeah. Sitting there smoking a cigarette in front of the car.
B
Your. Your other blue collar workers are like, dude, I'm in 30 years. I'm going to be delivering the same goddamn beer. But, but if you're doing that, I swear to God, I'm gonna be pissed at you.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I basically had that conversation with these guys. It was great.
B
So you're like. Then you're the, you're the brainiac of the group.
C
I know. I gotta, like, go back to the shop in like, six months and just like, be like, what up?
B
Well, make sure you bring, like, beer donuts or something.
C
Right? Yeah.
B
So, Charlie, what would you say? Go ahead.
C
Oh, sorry. Oh. I was gonna say, like, the background here. I feel like I've been on the fringe. I've been working in an engineering department, but I've been the guy who's using all the tools and, like, saws and, you know, blowing up power supplies and stuff like that. That's kind of like where this topic came from. So that's.
B
That's what you're doing now?
C
That's kind of. No, that's what I've been doing for the past 10 years.
B
Okay.
C
And then I, you know, I delivered beer for like a year. Right. And just to pay the bills. And now I'm like. Yeah, yeah.
B
So Charlie, what would you say other than the color of the collar?
A
Uh huh.
B
What would you say is defining white collar versus blue collar job? Like I feel like white collar job, if you get to the. If you get to the office and you stand around a water cooler and talk about the. How you do. Do anything that weekend, I feel like you work a white collar job.
A
Yeah. If you sit like this, do Miller.
B
Like blue collar collar job. Yeah.
A
It's a fun game. If, you know, I think if, if.
B
You'Re worried about hr, you probably work a white collar job.
A
Yeah. If a printer is the bane of your existence.
B
White collar job could go blue collar.
A
Though, because you know there's.
B
You gotta fix it.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're actually.
B
That's a shared one. They, you know, white collar and blue.
A
Collar, both hay printers in the Venn diagram. Yeah, we put that right there. Let's see here.
B
If your boss is an asshole, you work both blue collar and white collar job.
A
Yes, yes. If you are, if you are only going to the prison Christmas party to win one of the door prizes. Probably.
B
That'S tough.
A
That's probably a little wrong. Probably right in the middle. I don't think you're only going to.
B
The Christmas party because they got free beer. Blue collar, if you're going to. Yeah, I was going to say Christmas party to get a promotion.
A
White collar.
B
I mean, there you go.
C
Because they cheap white collar trying to win the door prices.
A
Yeah, there's definitely cheap white collar, but there's also rich blue collar. You know, like the truth of it is these days blue collar jobs make more than white collar jobs in a lot of instances. And so yeah, I feel like, like.
C
Our year in where I'm in Oregon, but you're. You're a plumber or a construction worker. Like some people sitting that off easily.
A
Yeah, yeah, you're right. You know, we heard half of that. But yeah, yeah, we'll just be agreeable with it.
B
Yeah. What are some other things, Charlie? Blue collar job versus white collar job.
A
I feel like.
B
If you've ever pissed in a Gatorade bottle. Blue collar job, blue collar job. Although.
A
You know that there are some, some you know, white collar guys that are like I gotta wait for this stock to drop or something, you know, but they're not pissing, they're pissing in their Nalgene bottle.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, they're camelback yeah, yeah. If you bike to work.
B
But what kind of bike are we talking?
A
Cuz if it's a huffy from like mid 2000s, you just got too many DUI, correct.
B
Yes. Or if it's motorized. Blue collar.
A
Yeah, right.
B
If you wear. Sorry. If you wear a helmet. Biking to work, White collar.
A
Yeah, yeah. If your helmet is your construction helmet, probably also. White collar.
B
If you stay in hotels, white collar. If you live out of an hotel. Blue collar.
A
Hotel, white collar. Motel. Blue collar.
C
Yeah, there you go.
B
If you shower at the gym, well, you could go. Just let me finish this one. Yeah. White collar.
A
Then don't look at me and do the hand thing.
B
Just.
A
Yeah, yeah, you look. Who. You want me to finish your goddamn sentence?
B
I know. And I want you to say.
A
White collar.
B
White collar. If you shower at the gym for work, white collar. If you shower at the truck stop before work, blue collar.
A
If you shower at. In your boss's shower at work. Could go either way.
B
Go either way.
A
If you shower in the sink.
B
Blue collar.
A
Collar.
B
Shop shower is what we call that, Charlie.
A
Yeah. Little ho bath is what I've heard it called.
C
I had to take a whole bath on my route a couple times. Too sweaty out there lifting kegs.
A
Oh, yeah.
C
That's a topic. Fair enough. That's another topic.
B
Now, what's interesting. Go both ways. One is like, if you're doing cocaine on a regular basis, could be both.
A
Yeah.
C
That's a shared. That's a shared one. Yeah.
B
If you drink bush light. Blue collar. If you drink MC Ultra. White collar.
A
Yeah. Unless the beer.
B
Yeah. Then they don't care.
A
Yeah. Free beer. That swings both ways. That's like that one fella on at the side of the bar who is white collar.
C
Is there a follower in a white collar?
A
The guy who swings both ways is usually.
B
God, it's. Sorry.
A
He's usually white collar.
B
Sorry.
A
That joke was funnier than it got credit for.
B
Yeah.
A
If your lunch comes in a cooler, Blue collar. If your lunch comes in an uber.
B
White collar. There you go.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
C
Shoes, too. I feel like shoes are a big, big indicator.
A
Shoes.
B
Yeah. If you wear. If you wear leather shoes to work. Could be both.
A
Could be both.
B
If you have steel in your leather shoes, blue collar. If you have polish on your leather shoes, white collar.
A
If you have polish on your tennis shoes, blue collar. Really?
C
That's my Saturday night shoes, man.
A
Yeah. You know what's funny? Forget that. If you polish your shoes whenever there's an escalator, blue collar. You ever done that? Put Polish on your shoes and gone.
B
Up an escalator, Brush on the side of the thing.
A
It works, dude, it works.
C
That's a blue collar move for sure.
A
Yeah, it's, it's. But it legit works. You just got to know how to rotate and you want to like, kind of depending on the thing, you may, you may like, you kind of want to find one that goes up and down right next to each other because that's, it's going to take a couple runs. Because if you don't have the right hip flexibility, you got to make a quick turn on the stairs, you know, and.
C
Yeah, you got to get the upper part.
A
Yeah, yup. And so you want to get a nice one where there's two times every.
C
Time I'm on one.
A
The airport is a good place you go to, like if you're way if your flight got delayed or whatever. And you got a little shoe polish.
B
With you that's Midwest cheap, dude. You won't just go to the shoe polish station. Instead just use the flat little escalator things. Yeah, yeah.
A
Because shoe polish.
B
Travel with shoe polish.
A
There was one time where I had, I had shoe polish and I just did it. I remember. But I don't know why I had shoe polish because I'm also, I was going to a wedding and my shoes, you know, you get some of those shoes that are like really old, but you're like, you know, those were your uncle's shoes. They're actually really nice if you just polish them and you hear that enough, but you never do it. And everyone's like, you wear those.
B
And so, so Charlie, I love this about you. You don't have kitchen utensils in your apartment, but you have shoe polish.
A
No, this was a long time ago. And I do have shoe pals.
B
Like, that's how Charlie's brain works. He's like, ah, I gotta get some shoe paws. I gotta make these shoes look nice. But then over to his apartment, he's like, yeah, you're probably just gonna have to eat with your hands. I don't know where any of my forks are.
A
I'll tell you this much. I have utensils.
B
Now you hear the shoe polish story on its own. You're like, wow, Charlie's really got his life together. He's even polishing his dress shoes.
A
Yeah, yeah. Only time I did it. But I will also say the shoe polish came from like in the back hall closet, you know, where you have like a bunch of different, like your WD40, an old paint thing, something like that I got. That's where I got this shoe polish, I think. I don't know that I purchased it directly for it because this was an out the door conversation. Like, I don't have shoe polish. There's some in the back hall. Okay, take it. But I'm probably not gonna do it.
B
So shoe Paulist makes it through TSA.
A
No, this was before TSA.
B
So like 2000.
A
No, no, no. It's just at the check in, there's an up and a down. I think it was Milwaukee airport saying before you.
B
So then you said to discard your shoe polish. I thought you were saying, like, before TSA existed. That's what I said.
A
No, no, before you go through it.
B
August of 2001 is when this was right before TSH existed.
A
Yeah. Is Brad still on the line? God dang. Sorry, Brad. We left you hanging. So what were we talking about, Brad?
B
Do you think we accurately. Accurately diagnose what's blue collar versus white collar?
C
I feel like. Yeah. I mean, I. I've called in for a couple of things if you want to move on to another topic. That's fun.
B
I love it when our callers are sick of what we're talking.
A
They all roast us. Yeah. You start to wonder, Miles, if we can't even entertain the people that called in, how are we supposed to entertain the masses?
B
Yeah, it's all right.
C
It's not like that. I've been laughing this whole time.
A
Well, do you have anything you want, buy, sell, or trade?
B
What else you want to talk about? What do you else do you want to talk about, Brad?
C
I had one that was like, how far away do you need to be from the sports bar for it to be like a themed. Like I was in a Packers themed bar out here in Oregon. I felt like it was far enough away. It didn't feel weird, you know?
B
Yeah, I feel that.
C
Obviously. Right? Yeah. It's like, obviously the bars in, you know, around any sports team are themed, but like.
B
Yeah. How far away do you gotta be from the sports team for a sports themed bar to feel like a novelty or feel like a cool experience? Because if you go to a Packer themed bar in Green Bay, you're like, yeah, this is, I think, a dime a dozen here.
A
I think you got to be out of state.
B
Out of state.
A
I just. Out of state. Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
Well, go ahead.
C
Oh, I was going to say I was that one in San Francisco visiting family. I lived in Boston for a while and it was a Boston themed sports bar. And it felt like I was downtown Boston. Everyone was pissed off, and, you know, everything was dirty and old.
A
Yeah, I want. That's so much fun when you have. It's almost like a consulate, you know? Like, you're at the Boston consulate in San Francisco.
B
The US Embassy.
A
Yeah, yeah. The Red Sox embassy in San Francisco. They got flags outside the whole deal. And you know when you're there, you can claim sanctuary.
B
Yeah. If you have you getting. If you get into a yelling match with the person selling hot dogs on the street, you just got to get to the Red Sox.
A
Yeah. They'll say, yup, yup. They'll protect you. It's sanctuary in the basement. And yeah, like, Boston calls. Like, San Francisco gets. Gets, like, too, like, upset with the deal, and they call everybody home from the embassy. They're like, it's no longer safe there. You know, they're no longer letting. Allowing you to say wicked on the.
B
Streets just turns into a negotiation.
A
Yeah, yeah. They're. They're prejudice against mass holes in San Francisco. Yeah. Negotiation.
B
Do you have a favorite Packer bar that's out of state?
A
Oh, my gosh.
B
I know. It's kind of putting you on spot, you know?
A
Yeah, yeah. I was just at 1 in Portland, Oregon. I was doing a show out there, and there, I think it's Jerry's. And you walk into that place, and you're like, I'm right back in Milwaukee, man. And it's actually a. I think there's Bears and Packer stuff because the wife is a Bears fan, the husband is a Packer fan, and that's. Yeah, that's a good one. Charleston, they've got these Packer backers, and I forget the name of the bar in Charleston, but I know they got a good one down there. Oh, Central Florida. There are these packerbackers in all these different states, and they. And sometimes I forget the bars, but remember going there. There's one in Los Angeles called the Tattletale Room. They got a cheese head drilled to the side of it. And, you know, you're home. You know, that's the nice thing. Does Fargo.
B
It's like the bat signal, right?
A
Pretty much, yeah.
B
It's just the thing with a cheese anything. Cheese is like a bat signal for Wisconsinites throughout the country.
A
Yeah, yeah, we know we can sniff it out.
B
Fargo, I don't think has that. It's mostly just, like, Viking stuff hang on the walls. It's not like a specific Viking bar.
A
If Fargo could get a football team, what would they name it?
B
Well, we have North Dakota as The Bucks. So the Bismarck Bucks.
A
Same question.
B
Cody Paul used to play for him. He was. He was known as the White Reggie Bush back on old YouTube in. In peewee football. Do you remember that? He played for the Bismarck Bucks.
A
Is that. Is that like a. I don't know.
B
I think there was, like, an arena team.
A
Oh, yeah, like that. Milwaukee had the Mustangs.
B
Yeah.
A
Back then, back in the day.
B
Could be the Chippers, you know, like the Clippers.
A
I like that.
B
The Wood Chippers.
A
That's a great name.
B
That is a great name.
A
Yeah. And the Fargo Chippers. And you guys.
B
That's great.
A
You guys all wear the sports spectacles, you know, like from the 90s. Just eye protection. It's part of the uniform.
B
Yeah.
A
You got a guy with one arm, you know. Yeah. And every game he's missing a different limb, you know?
C
Yeah.
B
And then the pregame ritual is we take a piece of wood with the other team's logo painted on it, and we put it through the wood chip.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Sick. You know, homecoming games, they'll paint the legs, like, homecoming week. They'll paint the other team's, like, thing on their car, and then they'll take a sledgehammer and smash it. Yeah, that's our version.
A
Yeah, they just do it center court.
B
Yeah.
A
And then all the regs they wipe it up with are just, like, red, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah. Blood.
C
Yeah.
B
Be great. I mean, we could have bought a sports franchise with how much the fucking diversion costs in Fargo. But that's a whole nother thing.
A
Yeah. What's up with that diversion?
B
If you're. You think gets you worked up is the AI. Mine's the Fargo. Diversion.
A
Diversion. You guys have a power center going up in Fargo. Everyone was telling me.
B
Yeah, we're not diving into that, Charlie. We got Brad on the line. I don't think.
A
Oh, Brad's still online. Brad, how you doing?
B
Are you still standing on the stump?
C
Yes, I am still standing on the.
A
Damn it, Brad. We left you up there, dude.
B
Charlie, I wanna. We're gonna role play Brad during this whole call. You ready?
A
Yeah. Oh, God. I'm gonna let you do this.
B
Can you hear me? All right, so I. I'm. Yeah.
C
Out.
B
Yeah. Oh, that's the dumbest bit we've done.
A
In a long time. That was a good bit.
B
That was that.
A
I wanted to see where you took it.
B
You were supposed to help me out a little bit, like we were having a conversation. But it's all right. That went about as good as our.
A
Try it again. Try it. Again. Try it again. Try it again.
C
Yeah, sorry about that.
B
That went about as good as a normal guy and a robot walk into a bar bit. We did. That's about how good that went. Charles.
A
I wasn't. I was waiting for you to.
B
I was waiting also.
A
I was. I was waiting for you to do something also.
B
I mean, the whole bit was that he was just standing on a stump. The whole call. It's. And I understand a visual gag is not great for a podcast. You.
A
You're bit bombed and you're blaming on me.
B
No, it's fine. It's fine.
A
Yeah, it was a good bit, I thought. How's your sciatica, Brad? He's stretching his side ass right now. Pushing the sciatica or the leg into the sciad.
C
Yeah. Another blue collar indicator. You know, limbering up.
A
Yeah. Stretching in random places.
B
Yeah. You gotta. You gotta worry about throwing out your back. Blue collar. You gotta work about carpal tunnel. Tunnel and depression.
C
Wow.
B
I guess. Depression.
A
Do you treat your depression with antidepressants or beer?
B
That's the difference between white and blue collar.
A
Well, this was a wonderful chit chat with you, Brad. Is there anything else on your mind?
C
That's pretty much it. I'm really happy that you guys took my call. Been listening to your podcast since the get go here.
A
Nice, dude. We're thrilled to be talking to you.
C
All right, all right.
B
You're free to go from the stump now, Brad.
C
Awesome. I can dismount and you're gonna.
B
There's.
A
That's a good bit. I got what he was doing right away.
B
Oh, off.
A
All right, Brad, you be good.
C
All right, take care, guys.
A
Bye. Bye. Well, Miles, we did it here, man. Yeah, we did another episode of the Bellied up podcast.
B
And guys, I'm being completely honest when I say that you got to get to get to the bar here in Wisconsin.
A
Kegels in, baby.
B
Got to get to the Kegels in. It's. It's actually really cool bar. They know they do a lot of events.
A
West Dallas. Yes. They got some comedy. What night's your comedy night? Tuesday.
C
Yeah.
A
Yeah.
B
They have way too many other fun stuff to do during the summer.
A
Sure do that.
B
They can't work in your comedy night.
A
And they got these nice big handmade steins behind me, so make sure you look it for them. And come look at the wall. Have a beer. Have an old Fashioned.
B
If I was a local reporter for a news magazine that only in Milwaukee do you have one of those. Yeah, what's it called?
A
I don't know. Oh, like a lifestyle magazine.
B
If I was.
A
Oh, yeah, Milwaukee magazine.
B
If I was a writer for Milwaukee magazine, I would do an article. It's like, top underground places you need to know.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you could say that you're getting a Baron's Old Fashioned brandy on tap.
B
Yeah. And then they would call. I would call Charlie for comment. He wouldn't respond. So I'd have to say we contacted Charlie Barron's about comment and didn't hear back from him.
A
Well, I was probably forgot. But you know, Miles, it's just good that you got buddies who know you so well. But I will say, yeah, it's a beautiful bar.
B
It is.
C
Yeah.
B
Was that it, Jared? Well, guys, thanks for tuning in to another episode of the Bellied up podcast. As always, tip your bartender and we'll see the next one.
A
I like how there's a monkey licking a Schlitz and a baby that looks like he's 45 years old right there.
B
Yeah, it's kind of what my kid looks like.
A
Yeah. Take a picture. And that's so true. All right, we'll see you guys soon.
B
They get a photo of my kid 100 years ago.
C
Okay. Hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now.
B
Toodaloo.
Hosts: Charlie Berens (A), Myles the You Betcha Guy (B)
Date: September 4, 2025
In this humor-packed episode, Charlie Berens and Myles the You Betcha Guy belly up at a small-town bar to riff on blue collar vs. white collar life, riff about money woes and taxes, and dig into listener calls ranging from awkward potential in-law situations to the blurry lines between life in a hard hat or an office chair. As usual, spontaneous Midwest storytelling and sharp banter make for a down-to-earth yet riotous hour.
Caller: Aiden (C)
Caller: Brad (C)
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00 | Packers talk & Charlie's gambling Vegas story | | 07:03 | Money panic & tax stress | | 11:00 | Caller 1: Aiden - Sister dating best friend dilemma | | 35:16 | Caller 2: Brad - Blue collar vs. white collar jobs | | 45:06 | Rapid-fire blue/white collar traits | | 50:25 | Themed sports bars as cultural “consulates” | | 58:40 | Depression: beer vs. antidepressants (humorous riff) |
For more, belly up to the Bellied Up Podcast next week!