Canadian is Upset With Charlie #163

Summary

Bellied Up Podcast Episode #163: "Canadian is Upset With Charlie"

In Episode #163 of the "Bellied Up" podcast, hosts You Betcha Guy (Myles) and Emmy-winning comedian Charlie Berens dive into a blend of nostalgic reflections, engaging caller interactions, and humorous debates. Recorded live at Will's Northwoods Wisconsin bar in Chicago, this episode encapsulates the podcast's signature charm—combining comedy with relatable, everyday conversations.

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1. Upcoming Live Show Announcement

Timestamp: [00:00 - 01:01]

Myles kicks off the episode with an enthusiastic announcement about their upcoming live show in Milwaukee:

"We're doing another Bellied up live in your town. We're coming to Milwaukee on August 27th. The event starts at 8pm... get your tickets for the Aug. 27 show." [00:00]

Charlie adds a touch of excitement, highlighting the venue and the presence of fellow co-host Billy Deuce.

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2. Back to School Memories and Reflections

Timestamp: [01:01 - 04:16]

The hosts reminisce about their experiences with the first day of school, exploring both positive and negative sentiments.

• Charlie on School Dread:

  "When I hear the words, I get a sense of overwhelming depression that washes over my brain." [02:12]

• Myles on Social Excitement:

  "It's like you walk in and you're high fiving, slapping each other's ass... slamming your buddy's books on the ground." [03:19]

They discuss the nostalgic aspects of school life, such as fresh notebooks and the hopes of staying organized, while humorously lamenting the universal struggle of losing pens and pencils.

"The optimism of like, yeah, this is my year to stay organized." [04:16]

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3. Call from Blake: Diving into Woodworking

Timestamp: [14:33 - 32:08]

A significant segment involves a call from Blake, a skilled woodworker from Eau Claire, who shares insights into his craft and business.

• Blake's Introduction:

  "I run a custom woodworking business. We do a lot of high end custom tables and furniture." [17:14]

• Discussion on Woodworking Techniques:

  They delve into various woodworking methods, such as milling rotted wood versus using chainsaw rigs.

  "You can definitely get some good material out of that for sure." [18:27]

• Noteworthy Projects:

  Blake mentions unique projects, including an urn shaped like a Ferrari for a dog and custom DJ stands made from black walnut.

  "Sometimes I've had a client ask me for like a urn that shaped like a Ferrari." [21:33]

• Woodworking Trends:

  The conversation touches on current trends like the preference for raw and rustic finishes over techniques like epoxy.

  "We like the rustic and raw look... Everybody wants a rustic and raw." [23:33]

• Pricing and Business Practices:

  Blake humorously discusses pricing strategies and deals, emphasizing the bespoke nature of his work.

  "Just charge them a dollar a square foot." [31:18]

Throughout the segment, Charlie and Miles express admiration for Blake's craftsmanship, intertwining humor with genuine interest.

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4. Caller Miguel: Rednecks vs. Hippies Debate

Timestamp: [36:27 - 58:09]

A lively and comedic debate ensues when Miguel, a Canadian living in New Zealand, calls in with grievances about Charlie's conflicting personas as a hippie and a redneck.

• Miguel's Critique:

  "He says, you know, I'm a redneck… I said, holy Frank, boys, you can't be one or the other." [37:03]

• Exploring Similarities:

  Charlie and Miguel find unexpected common ground, discussing shared anti-control sentiments despite their differing stereotypes.

  "Neither of us want to be controlled." [53:26]

• Environmental Concerns:

  The conversation shifts to environmental issues, with Charlie passionately debating against mining companies polluting rivers.

  "We are robbing us of our resources... polluted water. Fuck that." [52:27]

• Humorous Banter:

  The hosts engage in humorous exchanges about stereotypes, with Miles playfully mansplaining and Charlie defending his eclectic identity.

  "Master of some. So I'm just not sure which one yet." [40:25]

Miguel's perspective as a Canadian adds an international flavor, enriching the debate with diverse viewpoints.

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5. Voicemail from Josh: Fishing During a Tornado

Timestamp: [59:05 - 66:02]

In a blend of humor and concern, the hosts address a voicemail from Josh, who finds himself fishing amidst a severe thunderstorm and tornado warning.

• Josh's Predicament:

  "We're out on the water... under severe thunderstorm watch and a tornado warning." [59:05]

• Advice from Hosts:

  Charlie humorously advises Josh to stay put, blending comedic elements with practical (albeit fictional) guidance.

  "You definitely stay. Absolutely." [59:52]

• Discussion on Tornado Safety:

  The conversation ventures into exaggerated and comedic safety tips, highlighting the absurdity of fishing during such extreme weather.

  "Surface tension can be just like concrete." [62:47]

This segment showcases the hosts' ability to infuse levity into potentially serious topics.

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6. Closing Remarks and Final Bants

Timestamp: [65:50 - 66:02]

The episode wraps up with light-hearted banter about listener interactions and a reminder to attend their live shows.

"You guys get down down to Wills north woods in Chicago. And don't forget, tip your bartender." [66:02]

Charlie and Miles conclude the episode on a high note, reinforcing the community-centric vibe of the podcast.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Charlie on School Dread:
  "When I hear the words, I get a sense of overwhelming depression that washes over my brain." [02:12]

• Myles on Social Excitement:
  "It's like you walk in and you're high fiving, slapping each other's ass... slamming your buddy's books on the ground." [03:19]

• Blake on Woodworking:
  "We do a lot of high end custom tables and custom furniture." [17:14]

• Miguel's Critique:
  "He says, you know, I'm a redneck… I said, holy Frank, boys, you can't be one or the other." [37:03]

• Environmental Debate:
  "We are robbing us of our resources... polluted water. Fuck that." [52:27]

• Voicemail Advice:
  "You definitely stay. Absolutely." [59:52]

• Closing Reminder:
  "You guys get down down to Wills north woods in Chicago. And don't forget, tip your bartender." [66:02]

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Conclusion

Episode #163 of "Bellied Up" exemplifies the podcast's unique blend of comedy, personal anecdotes, and interactive dialogues. From nostalgic school memories to spirited debates on identity and environmental issues, along with engaging discussions on woodworking and unexpected caller dilemmas, Charlie and Miles deliver an episode that's both entertaining and thought-provoking. Whether you're a regular listener or tuning in for the first time, this episode promises laughter, reflection, and a sense of camaraderie typical of a night spent at a quaint town bar.

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Transcript

[Miles]

Milwaukee. Guess what? We're doing another Bellied up live in your town. We're coming to Milwaukee on August 27th. The event starts at 8pm Again, we're doing Bellied Up Live in Milwaukee next. And the doors open at 7pm Me, Charlie, Billy Deuce will be there. It's going to be a good fun time. So if you want to come see the boys that Bellied Up Live, get your tickets for the Aug. 27 show. And the venue is the Vivarium. So we're going to be at the Vivarium. And I think I said it right, Jared. So you guys got to come check us out. Hope you enjoy the episode. But again, Bellied up live, baby. Go get your tickets now. Welcome back to another episode of the Bellied up podcast. We're still bellied up here at Will's Northwoods Wisconsin bar in Chicago. Or again, behind enemy Lines. Charlie. How are you today, Miles?

[Charlie]

I'm enjoying a beautiful linies hazy beer here at Wills Northwoods. I think they sell the most line. He's in all of Chicago. I don't know that, but representing Wisconsin. Good. In this bar. They got a canoe on the wall here, which is pretty sweet. You know, if you got canoe on the wall in Chicago, that's a Wisconsin bar.

[Miles]

Charlie, what kind of fish are you catching with those lures above your head?

[Charlie]

Oh, look at that, man. Oh, man alive. That's as big as a muskie. I've caught muskies smaller than those boys. Man eaters, Miles. Man eaters. That's.

[Miles]

Well, Charlie, it is now August.

[Charlie]

Yeah, it is.

[Miles]

What's. What's the dates in August that we are currently in? Like, first week, second week.

[Charlie]

Oh, Miles, you don't know what day it is again?

[Miles]

You know, I just show up.

[Charlie]

Yep. And here we are. It doesn't matter. It's the dog days of summer. Dog days.

[Miles]

So Jared has been asking us to do this segment.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

For now a month and a half. And we said, you know what, Jared? Fourth of July, it's a little early to be talking about the first day of school.

[Charlie]

Back to school. I still, when I hear the words, I get a sense of overwhelming depression that washes over my brain.

[Miles]

Yeah. Okay, well, let's dive into this, Charlie, because the question is, is what'? What was it again? The best favorite thing about the first day of school now. Yes. I think that there is dread as a kid. Right. You're like, all right. Oh. But then once you walk through the doors of school on the first day, I wouldn't necessarily say That I felt dread.

[Charlie]

I still felt dread.

[Miles]

Did you?

[Charlie]

Yeah, for weeks on end.

[Miles]

Because for me, it's like you. You know, it's like to me, first day of school can sometimes feel like when you are, you arrive somewhere and all your family's waiting at the airport to pick you up. You know, all your buddies are waiting at their lockers and you, you walk in and you're high fiving, you know, slapping each other's ass. You're. Wow, you're sack tapping each other, you know, booking each other, you know, slamming your buddy's books on the ground, running away.

[Charlie]

I think you were more popular than I was. I think that's what it was.

[Miles]

Or I was just a bul, I guess. Good about tapping and booking people left and right.

[Charlie]

You sound like the reason I dreaded going back to school. Oh, you know, all right. No, well, I don't know what it was. I didn't really like school. You know, it was hard.

[Miles]

I didn't like the school aspect of school, but I like the social. Social aspect of school.

[Charlie]

Yeah, it's not bad, I suppose. You know, I just like summer so much. I like doing flips off the diving board, you know? Yeah. And when the pool closed, that was a sad day, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

[Miles]

So what is the best part, though, of the first day of school?

[Charlie]

Leaving. Yeah, leaving school. Best. Well, I guess also like the idea that, you know, your notebooks are fresh. So it's like, oh, this year I'm not going to just shove this thing in my backpack.

[Miles]

The optimism of like, yeah, this is my year to stay organized.

[Charlie]

My folders are going to actually only have the things for that class in that folder. Now these days, kids don't even have folders. That's another story. Story. But back in my day, Miles, you know, if you had a nice crisp notebook and the ends of the notebook, the wiry end, wasn't getting hung up on another notebook, you know, squeezing that wire rim tight.

[Miles]

Cover was still on.

[Charlie]

The note cover was still on it. There were, you know, there new pens, the fine point pens, you know, and you actually had pens. You didn't need to borrow one yet. You know, I mean, you know, where.

[Miles]

Did all the pens and pencils go throughout? Like, I was in the same boat. And there's like school split up into two people. One, they never lose a pen and then the other group, like us, Charlie, is we only lose a pen.

[Jared]

We.

[Charlie]

Yeah, we. We had a pen and now it's gone.

[Miles]

It was. It was almost like how many pens that I would lose. It would be like, all right, I write with it, and then I just throw it over my shoulder and then not know where it went. Where did they all go?

[Charlie]

I mean, I think they must have gone into the pencil cases of the good students. You always knew the good student because she had all.

[Miles]

And it wasn't she.

[Charlie]

A little sexist, but, you know, it was true accurate at the time. She had all the color coded pens and pencils and. And the nice Sharpies. Oh, I like, remember those. Those markers. You could smell the smellables.

[Miles]

Yeah, the sharpies. The black Sharpies.

[Charlie]

No, Miles. Miles out there. Like when we did dare, and they were like, some people even get high painting their fingernails with white out. The next day, everyone was white, outing their fingers, sniffing those things, trying to get through math class with less brain cells. Yeah, those were the days. Those were the days. But no, I'm. I'm happy I'm not in school anymore. But if you're still in school, too.

[Miles]

Because you're 38.

[Charlie]

Be a big old waste of money at this point. But, you know, I was ahead in the clouds kind of kid, Miles. You know, some. Some school just wasn't made for people like me.

[Miles]

Y was just always looking for the. The.

[Charlie]

The easiest way through the next rabble to rouse, huh?

[Miles]

Yeah. You know, I was always looking for, like, what's the least amount of work I can do? And then there was always one guy you just cheated off of, and he just was, for whatever reason, just willing to let you cheat off his paper.

[Charlie]

I know. I remember. Do you remember Iowa Basics tests? Did you guys have those standardized testing?

[Miles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlie]

So, yeah, I didn't do well third grade and then fifth grade, I did well because Katie Elverman was sitting across for me, and I copied every single answer, and I got like a 99% on it. Then in seventh grade, my mom thought I had a learning disability because I did so much worse because I wasn't sitting across from Katie Elderman. She's like, is everything okay with you? I was like, I don't know. Just. I wasn't feeling good that day. Mom.

[Miles]

Yeah, you, like, crush it in fifth grade, so they put you in the, like, accelerated learning in sixth grade. It's like Forrest Gump at the White House. You know, he just shouldn't be there, but he is.

[Charlie]

That was me. That was me. Yes.

[Miles]

School.

[Charlie]

It wasn't. Wasn't. I was good at writing. I remember I wrote this one thing about this squirrel that died, and it got acclaim.

[Miles]

It got acclaim.

[Charlie]

Acclaim.

[Miles]

Like critical acclaim.

[Charlie]

Yeah. My teacher liked it. Okay. Yeah, Yeah.

[Miles]

I like how he's like, I wrote one thing that my teacher liked.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

There was one thing I did my teacher liked.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Were you the class clown or were you not?

[Charlie]

No, I was like, in the music. I was into Everclear, you know, the band ever clear and me and my.

[Miles]

And the. And the alcohol. Ever clear as well?

[Charlie]

No, no, not that I didn't. I wanted to ever tell you about.

[Miles]

There's a kid, you know, because there's always kids, like, there's always like the one out group kid that. Kids that are like, trying to drink at school. I don't know if you had that.

[Charlie]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

One kid got caught with a shampoo bottle in his, like, Trapper Keeper.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Filled with like vodka or something.

[Charlie]

Nice.

[Miles]

And we just all were thinking like, that is stranger to be drinking out of a shampoo bottle than if you just put vodka in a regular water bottle.

[Charlie]

Right. What was wrong with Gatorade? You can ma smell a little bit.

[Miles]

Yeah. We were just like. That was maybe the dumbest thing you could have done.

[Charlie]

Obviously.

[Miles]

Yeah. Only other thing that would have been dumber is if you put it in an old bottle of bleach. You know, it's like.

[Charlie]

Why is this kid drinking bleach?

[Miles]

Why is this kid drinking shampoo?

[Charlie]

So was he. Did he get caught taking a swig out of a Per plus? Yeah. Deal. Did you ever drink out of it?

[Miles]

No.

[Charlie]

What was the first drink you had, Miles? You remember?

[Miles]

I remember. I think we just stole some beer out of my dad's fridge at the lake. Got in trouble for that.

[Charlie]

How old were you?

[Miles]

I was like 14, maybe.

[Charlie]

Yeah, me and my cousin Tom stole my Uncle John's Red Bulls. Or not Red Bulls. Red Dogs. You ever have Red Dog?

[Miles]

Do you think that Red Bull is alcohol, Charlie?

[Charlie]

No. No. Red Dog. Red Dog. Well, an original. I don't think they make it anymore.

[Miles]

I just remember the same. That same year, you know, one, a buddy of ours, his parents were moving to a new house and they had moved out already, but they hadn't sold the house yet, so he threw a party in there. Just empty house. And all I remember is later one of the girls just puked up all of her Mac and cheese in the Dairy Queen parking lot.

[Charlie]

Well, at least it wasn't on the freshly and clean.

[Miles]

We were all standing like. I don't think she chewed.

[Charlie]

She inhaled it. We've all been there. We've all inhaled a bowl of Mac and cheese before. Miles Quit acting like you're better than her.

[Miles]

You know, that's the weirdest time in life, I feel like is like age 14 to 17.

[Charlie]

It is wild, man. It's coming of age, you know, and things are weird. Things are growing in places that they. They didn't grow before, you know, except for you. You had a full beard by the time you were in eighth grade.

[Jared]

And.

[Charlie]

Yeah, it's pretty bizarre. Ah, what a time to be alive, though. What were you doing for fun as a kid? What was, what was like every day you had to be doing this, like in the summer.

[Miles]

Yeah, we, we would go outside. I was a variety kid. I was doing like one thing.

[Charlie]

Okay.

[Miles]

Now we do some rollerblading. We'd go biking. We play like, like army in the backyard, you know, with your brother.

[Charlie]

Some airsoft guns.

[Miles]

No, not. My mom was buying a Sarah, so I've got. We just used the old fashioned stick and pretended Charlie. Back in the day.

[Charlie]

Nice, nice.

[Miles]

We played video games, you know, we just, we did it all. We played bass, we played sports, baseball, you know, everything.

[Charlie]

It's fun to be a kid, man. It's fun to be a kid.

[Miles]

I remember I begged my mom to get me the, the, the roller blades that like had like the little notch in between the wheels so you can grind the K2s. Yeah, I got a pair of those.

[Charlie]

Were you good at grinding?

[Miles]

My buddy had a grinding rail in his driveway. And I remember I skated over there and I went for it.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Jumped up, went for the grind. Absolutely wiped out. Right on my ass. And I never tried it again. Yeah, I was like, this isn't worth.

[Charlie]

I mean, it's, it's not, it's. It's a tough thing to do. Especially then you're probably not wearing any pads or not.

[Miles]

Like, I was too, well, adverse in cause and effect to be into extreme sports. I understood physics just a little too much.

[Charlie]

Yeah, yeah. You knew two things cannot occupy the same space at the same time and something's going to win. Usually it's a pavement. Okay.

[Miles]

If I do the math, if I try and grind on this 100 times, I'm going to fall at least 98. And you know what? That's just not worth it.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I'm kind of with you. I never got Those, you know, 12 kids, you kind of get what you got, you know. And so I had sort of. I tried grinding on. Doing the side grind on my rower blades.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlie]

You know where. And I, you know, and then I tried making my bike with coaster Brakes be like a BMX bike. And I put pegs on it, you know, got made fun of for that because, like, I still had coaster brakes, you know, but I had pegs on the back of the bike. Pegs were expensive, man.

[Miles]

I mean, could you imagine even. Like, no one. Is anyone ever used pegs to grind a bike on something?

[Charlie]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

[Miles]

You did.

[Charlie]

No, but people do. I mean, I try.

[Miles]

I understand. There's like, oh, yeah, this is what they're for. But. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone successfully grind a bike before.

[Charlie]

I don't think that's what they're for. What they're for is so you can have a passenger on your bike. Yeah, they stand on your pegs.

[Miles]

No, I know, but I think they're made for grinding.

[Charlie]

No, they're made for giving a passenger a ride. They're a utilitarian thing. And then kids were like, oh, we can grind with these things. You know, it's kind of like the dances in eighth grade. Anyway.

[Miles]

Little bumping and grinding. We had to leave room for the holy spirit.

[Charlie]

We did, too. But then, you know, you start playing that Jay Z. Back that ass up and. Was that Jay Z? No, that wasn't Jay Z. Anyways.

[Miles]

All right, well, back to school for everyone. I think it's still. Is like, a couple weeks away.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Jared wanted us to do this segment, and so we did. So re. Listen to this on the way to school on the first day.

[Charlie]

Should we take some callers?

[Jared]

Let's do it.

[Blake]

Miles and Charlie, this is Blake here.

[Charlie]

Blake, what's cooking, my guy? How we living?

[Blake]

Oh, I'm living great. Just here at work right now, slaving away.

[Miles]

Okay, from my understanding, you are the guy who can play a little instrument for the boys. Is that correct?

[Jared]

Oh, that I can. That I can.

[Miles]

You really know what you're doing. What was the instrument again?

[Blake]

We got ourselves a mandolin here.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Oh, I remember now. That was really good.

[Blake]

I got it with me at work. I got it with me at work. If you want me to play you something.

[Charlie]

Absolutely, yeah.

[Miles]

Is it gonna be.

[Blake]

Hold on.

[Miles]

Is it gonna be. Is it gonna be two and a half seconds long like the last song you played us, or.

[Charlie]

No, he's going to get it. He's gone. All right.

[Miles]

Well, that sucks.

[Blake]

All right, I'm back now. I'm back.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie]

All right. What kind of mandolin are you playing? Gibson.

[Blake]

I'm playing Ibanez.

[Jared]

It's called.

[Charlie]

There we go. And Ibanez. All right, let's hear what we got.

[Miles]

Yeah. What?

[Blake]

What do you want to hear?

[Miles]

I'd like to hear an original.

[Jared]

All right. Sounds good.

[Charlie]

Hell yeah. All right, there we go. I can see some hippies bobbing their head to that.

[Blake]

There you go.

[Miles]

All right, now I want you to do a mandolin solo for us. And I want you to shred our faces with it.

[Blake]

Okay. Okay, let's see what I can do here. Like.

[Miles]

Oh, Charlie doesn't have a face anymore. You shredded it right off.

[Charlie]

It's gone. You made me.

[Jared]

Hey, there you go. There you go.

[Charlie]

Nice.

[Miles]

So what's your job? That you just do that as a hobby or are you a music teacher or what?

[Jared]

No, no, no.

[Blake]

I run a custom woodworking business.

[Charlie]

There you go. Nice. That's cool.

[Blake]

That's what I'm doing full time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlie]

Have you made your own mandolin yet?

[Blake]

I'm in the process actually right now.

[Charlie]

Pretty sweet, man. Pretty sweet. That is the process.

[Miles]

What do you guys make?

[Blake]

I do a lot of high end custom tables and furniture. That's our main bread and butter around here.

[Charlie]

Oh, we got a wood guy here. God, I love a good wood guy.

[Miles]

You gotta be making a killing in the financial advising business. I feel like those are always putting up new buildings and they're always wanting high end furniture.

[Charlie]

Yeah, something custom. Something custom. Go right here and it'll be good. We'll have our board meetings.

[Miles]

Is that. Is that your main clientele?

[Blake]

That is the main clientele. We got a lot of custom homes and custom cabins up here. Up here in the Northwoods.

[Charlie]

Oh, what town?

[Blake]

Well, race, we're based out of Eau Claire here, but there you go. A lot of towns up north where all the lakes are and people have their high end cabins. Those high end people, you know.

[Miles]

Hey, question for you, calling them high ends.

[Charlie]

I just cut down a white cedar and the middle is a little rotted. So does that mean I've got it slabbed out? But if the middle is rotted and it's rotted up a pretty decent way, Can I still get some decent slabs out of that? It's just the middle or should I just. Yeah, go.

[Blake]

Absolutely. You can definitely get some good material out of that for sure.

[Charlie]

Okay, and how would you just mill it? Or they've got those chainsaw rigs where you can kind of do it with a chainsaw. You slap it out.

[Blake]

I've seen both. You could definitely have a milled or use the chainsaw rig too. I've done the chainsaw rig.

[Jared]

It works just as fine does it?

[Charlie]

I might get a chainsaw rig. That would be kind of sweet. Nice.

[Blake]

What would be awesome?

[Charlie]

What would you. I mean, I was also thinking maybe cutting in half and then chiseling out the. The middle and doing a little canoe. What do you think about that?

[Jared]

Oh.

[Blake]

Oh, that'd be the cat's meow right there, let me tell you.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I probably don't have any business doing that because. But cool. All right, so I can do something with that. What's your favorite thing you've ever made with wood?

[Blake]

Oh, favorite thing. We do a lot of fun furniture, so we're doing a lot of fun tables and fun chairs and things like that. Obviously, we're making high end custom tables here and furniture for people who still eat dinner off their laps in front of the tv. My goodness. We run a woodworking shop here. I buy a stack of lumber that costs more than my truck and then dream to one day build a table that doesn't end up under laundry and Amazon boxes. I guess.

[Miles]

Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what my kitchen table is for. Just. Just a collection for all of our junk. And then we eat at the island.

[Charlie]

You're breaking this guy's heart. You're telling him you're eating on. On what? Granite or something? I mean, quartz.

[Miles]

I got a quartz countertop.

[Charlie]

Quartz countertop.

[Miles]

Quartz has got to be a thorn in your side.

[Blake]

Yeah, it's okay. I mean, I'm just trying to convince the folks that handmade doesn't mean cheap and quirky. I mean, you're paying for the blood, sweat, and tears and all the swearing it took me to yell at the one board. For sure.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Are you a oneman shop?

[Blake]

I'm a one man shop over here for sure. Yeah.

[Miles]

That's kind of nice. No overhead. What's.

[Charlie]

Yeah, what's the name of your business, Mom?

[Blake]

Blake's Woodworking. You can find me on Instagram, Facebook, or Blake woodworking.com.

[Charlie]

Ah, there's a plug.

[Miles]

What's your first name, Blake. What is your business? What do you do?

[Blake]

We do a lot of high end custom tables and custom furniture.

[Miles]

Blake's Woodworking. Next. Is that how you name your business?

[Blake]

There you go.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Yeah, you should have. You should have named it Blake's High End Woodworking.

[Blake]

There's a thought right there.

[Miles]

It's all about marketing. You know, he should have said you should have thrown premium on there. I'd consider a redo on that.

[Blake]

That you guys only know how to market. That's for sure.

[Miles]

That's right.

[Charlie]

Thank you.

[Miles]

What is the weirdest thing you've built? Like what? Is anyone like asked for like a sex dungeon table or anything like that? Because I know those high end people, they act all hoity toity and act like they got it all together, but they got some demons that they deal.

[Charlie]

With dogs in them.

[Miles]

No, no sex dungeon tables.

[Blake]

We know. We got a lot of weird stuff. Sometimes I've had a client ask me for like a urn that shaped like a Ferrari that was kind of interesting for their dog.

[Charlie]

A Ferrari earn for their dog.

[Jared]

Yeah, a lot.

[Blake]

Yeah, a lot of weird things like that. I don't know, we get a lot of weird requests, but it's all fun.

[Miles]

Do tell. What's some other weird stuff you've made?

[Blake]

Oh, I'm trying to think. We made a weed pipe once. That was interesting.

[Charlie]

Yeah. How much did you charge for that?

[Blake]

I don't know if I want to say for sure. That was for a friend, that's for sure.

[Charlie]

Oh, okay. You did a pro bono?

[Jared]

Yes, that's how it goes.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Blake]

Yeah, we do a lot of weird things, but it always ends up pretty good. A lot of fun science for people's houses and things.

[Miles]

Do you dabble in the epoxy game? You know, I see a lot of videos of woodworking companies, you know where there's like. That's what you could do in the. Where the rotted out part, you get that all out. Put some, some epoxy. You do any of that?

[Blake]

There's the four miles. Yeah, we do a lot of epoxy. We have done a lot of epoxy before. It's kind of going out of style, I feel like. But.

[Charlie]

I feel like the epoxy thing is something that's very, very dated of like. Oh, that's so like 20, like teens.

[Miles]

20, 19.

[Charlie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

What is the new hot thing in the woodworking business?

[Blake]

Oh, hot thing. I don't know. There's a lot of hot tools out there that'll really get you hummingbird. A lot of hot wood for sure. A lot of wood from. We buy a lot of our wood from South America and Africa and things like that. A lot of the exotic woods, as you would say.

[Miles]

Oh yeah, I built a fake beam in my house.

[Charlie]

I saw it. It looks nice.

[Miles]

The wood was called black limba. You ever worked with any black limba before?

[Blake]

I've heard of that. I haven't worked with that before, but definitely heard of that.

[Miles]

It's sure a slick looking grain on that thing. We didn't even that is so much.

[Blake]

Oh, that's great.

[Miles]

And partly because I didn't want to stain it.

[Blake]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So it was a lot of like, oh, honey, doesn't that look nice raw. I think we should leave it raw.

[Charlie]

That's how you got a kid too.

[Blake]

Leave the wood raw. The rustic and raw look is just. Everybody wants a rustic and raw. For sure.

[Miles]

That's true. That and whitewashing of wood, I feel like is going on a lot.

[Blake]

Like the white grinds my gears. That just grinds my gears right there. I hate the whitewashing.

[Miles]

I know, but the people. People gotta be requesting that from you, from those high end homes.

[Charlie]

What do you mean? White?

[Jared]

They are like.

[Miles]

Like you basically stain it white, but then you, like wash it off. So it's just like. Oh, it looks like.

[Charlie]

Yeah, it looks rustic or whatever.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Is that. Is that the process?

[Blake]

That's the process, yeah.

[Charlie]

I like doing stuff with like found wood, you know, like I made a table out of just some random wood that was in my basement, you know, and it looks janky as hell, but it's sturdy. It's not going anywhere. Yeah. You know, you put some. Go ahead.

[Blake]

Those are the best, though, you can find. Yeah. You find the wood and it's got a great story behind it.

[Charlie]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not sure anything beside it was in my basement, but. Yeah. That. If that wood could talk. Let me tell you. I used to work in the. In the violin business. I worked for a bow maker and I was his shop hand. Yeah. And he had some Brazilian rosewood back before it was banned. And he. He had a stack of that stuff. And he won't let me get too close to it because, you know that first of all, you weren't at the time. Yeah. You couldn't cut any more of that down. It was sort of like he had it back when he was working in Brazil, actually back in the 80s.

[Miles]

So they banned it because they didn't want people cutting those trees down.

[Charlie]

They didn't want them cutting the trees down. Yeah, it's like ivory. Like you can't have that stuff anymore.

[Miles]

So.

[Charlie]

But yeah, he had some exotic woods that I. I think we're no longer allowed. But I wasn't allowed to get too close because I. I had a problem with spilling.

[Miles]

Yeah. I mean, if I got anything of value, I'm definitely just trying to keep Charlie away from it. I like, it's nothing against your track record isn't awesome.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I know it wasn't. Yeah.

[Miles]

But Charlie said. What did you say earlier you're like you. You mess up a couple things, and usually one or two things you mess up is fine, but when you string three of them together, you're. That's where you start having issues.

[Charlie]

Yeah. You string three Charlie's together, and you're in a deep. You are in the wilderness with no phone. Let me put it to you that way. You're using your. You're using the sun to navigate your way back home. And that's happened to me before. So, yeah, you know, you can't pull too many Charlie's in a row. That's the take home lesson there.

[Jared]

There.

[Blake]

Yeah, that's true. I understand that.

[Charlie]

Yeah. The nice thing about woodworking I've found. And I'm just kind of getting back into it, I was doing it a lot as a kid, but, you know, things can be a little Cali wampus, and that's just part of the character of it. At least that's what I've resigned to because everything I do is a little Cali wampus, you know, that's for sure.

[Miles]

Is that the correct way to say that? Isn't it kitty wampus? No, wampus.

[Charlie]

It's Cali wampus.

[Blake]

I think it's Kelly. I don't know what it is.

[Charlie]

But in Wisconsin, it's Cali Wampus and Fargo. Maybe it's like Caddy Corner or Kitty Corner.

[Miles]

I've never heard cat. I've never heard Caddy Corner in my life.

[Charlie]

Neither have I. I call it Kitty Corner, but then some people says, it's Caddy Corner, and I says, I don't know, you know? So here we are again. It's.

[Miles]

It's wild catawampus.

[Charlie]

Catawampus. What does it mean? What's the definition? Catawampus means askew, awry, or crooked. Can also refer to something positioned diagonally. What's the origins? Yeah, Kitty wampus. Miles, you can't just be wrong anymore. We got a kitty wampus is how people wrongly say cattywampus. Is that what it says in yours is informal.

[Miles]

Okay, so I got the slang down.

[Charlie]

You got that slang.

[Miles]

So, Blake, what are you building today in the shop?

[Blake]

We are building lots of things. We're building a table today. We're building a DJ stand for a local DJ vendor. That's gonna be pretty sweet.

[Miles]

Okay, what. What goes into that? Any special features?

[Blake]

A lot of customized stuff. So he gave me his DJ equipment and we're just kind of measuring it all up and matching it to Size to make sure everything looks nice. We're making it out of some black walnut, like me.

[Charlie]

A black walnut? That's pretty cool. I'm gonna. I like that a lot. Yes. Miles, I'm a little bricked up. Hey, Blake, let me ask you this. I got a cabin. Okay. And I got the cabin. Let's say I got a deal. All right. But in the cabin, you know, you.

[Miles]

Don'T have to say you got got. You can just buy a cabin.

[Charlie]

I got a deal.

[Miles]

You don't have to feel guilty about buying a cab.

[Charlie]

Feel guilty.

[Miles]

You don't have to say that you. I got a cabin, but I didn't buy. Pay full price.

[Charlie]

Okay, well, that's what I'm saying. But. But part of the reason I'm saying that, Miles, is because there's trouble in the cabin. So on a. On a warmed. It's made out of ungraded lumber. And on a. On a humid day, the. The floors and the stick. Your feet is sticking. So I think that there's beads of SAP seeping out of that wood. And have you encountered that? Do we know how to fix that? Because.

[Miles]

If it's a hot, humid day, when I wake up, I can't get to the bathroom. Feet are stuck.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So I'm just there all day. I started having to put food next to the bed.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I mean, I do have issues. What. What would you recommend in that situation?

[Blake]

Well, that's the hard one to comb. I mean, you could use the SAP boil, make some maple syrup or something. But that'd probably be the only thing I could think of.

[Miles]

Does Charlie. Charlie know what he's talking about? Can that even happen?

[Blake]

I don't know. I'd have to. I don't think he really does, Miles. Sorry.

[Miles]

Yeah, I mean, that seems far fetched. That is. That is what is still leaking SAP all these years later.

[Charlie]

I mean, that's what it looks like. Or maybe it's the finish that they used isn't very good. It could be. The finish would have finished that.

[Blake]

Yeah, the finish could definitely stick like that. For sure.

[Charlie]

So do I just have to strip it and then reseal it?

[Blake]

Probably strip it and reseal it. Yeah. That's the old tried and true method.

[Charlie]

All right. Thanks, Blake. That helps.

[Blake]

Yeah, you're welcome. I'm sorry for the bad news.

[Charlie]

So, Blake, how much would you charge to strip and reseal a cabin for a buddy of yours? What's the buddy?

[Miles]

That he got on a discount?

[Charlie]

Don't remind me.

[Jared]

That's for sure.

[Blake]

We get A lot of those. Oh, it's a family friends discount people ask for, but, yeah, that's just how it goes.

[Miles]

All right, so how much would you charge?

[Blake]

How much would I charge? I don't know.

[Jared]

I'd have to obviously look at it.

[Blake]

And see what's going on and take a look from there. Maybe a couple hundred bucks. We'll see. I don't know.

[Charlie]

Couple hundred bucks. Sold. Sold. It was going to take me two weeks.

[Blake]

Depends on how big the square footage is for sure.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Miles]

How many square feet you got?

[Charlie]

I'm not exactly sure. The square footage. Like a thousand square feet. Jesus.

[Blake]

Oh, there you go. Yeah, that's.

[Miles]

I mean, charge them a dollar a square foot.

[Blake]

Perfect.

[Jared]

We'll do that.

[Charlie]

All right. Cool, cool.

[Miles]

Okay. Well, we appreciate it, Blake. We also appreciate your little ditty that you sent us that we've been using at the end of the show.

[Charlie]

It's pretty a great ditty, my guy.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Blake]

You guys need another one or anything or.

[Miles]

Well, I think we should end the call with you giving us a little another song for us as we head out to the next caller.

[Jared]

Sounds good.

[Blake]

Will do. Here we go. Okay, goodbye now. Hope you guys have a good one.

[Charlie]

Thanks.

[Jared]

Thank you, Blake.

[Charlie]

We'll see you soon. Ah, Blake's a good guy.

[Miles]

I want to buy a table from Blake.

[Charlie]

You should have asked him.

[Miles]

Well, I don't have a need for a table right now. I just want to, you know, where am I gonna put it?

[Charlie]

Right under the beam.

[Miles]

I have a table there already.

[Charlie]

Get rid of it.

[Miles]

You sound like my wife.

[Charlie]

Get rid of it. Give me new.

[Miles]

We moved in. She's like, I want a different couch. I'm like, there's nothing wrong with this couch.

[Charlie]

That's what I'm saying. Randa wants a new couch, and I'm like, I. I think this one's fine.

[Miles]

And I have another couch in the basement, too. I have two couches.

[Charlie]

You got two couches? Spendy guy, huh? You're gonna go broke buying all these couches, Miles. I know. How about. How about you get a new couch? I'll take your couches. I'll take your old couch, and that'll be my new couch.

[Miles]

Are you sure you want my old couch?

[Charlie]

Is that where the baby was made, Miles?

[Miles]

No, my kid has just spilt a lot of food on it.

[Charlie]

Oh, okay.

[Miles]

Yeah, it's pretty gross.

[Charlie]

Gross. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Maybe not. Maybe not.

[Miles]

He also does, you know, one thing as a parent me and Anne aren't great at. Are Making sure his nails are trimmed.

[Charlie]

He's just scratching. Cat scratches.

[Miles]

I just. I don't know if he's just. If every kid's like this, but his fingernails grow overnight.

[Charlie]

I feel like he's a keratin guy.

[Miles]

He must be hammering the keratin. But it once in a while starts scratching the couch with his fingernails. We got that all over too.

[Charlie]

Well, it's is well worn.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah.

[Jared]

I gotta.

[Miles]

I gotta. I gotta get a routine going down with his fingernails.

[Charlie]

But I get it. Randa's got these four cats, man. This is how our lives are different, dude.

[Miles]

And don't compare my kid to Randa's hairless cats.

[Charlie]

Only two are hairless, but they got these nails, dude. Some.

[Miles]

Some things classic guy with no kids move right here. Oh, yeah, you have to parents. Well, let me tell you about my dog. He misbehaves all the time talking about cats.

[Charlie]

Dud. Yeah, but you know kids, when you die.

[Miles]

No, I now know how dude dad feels. I remember I would say stuff like you just said. And then I had a kid and I was like, you know what? Dude dad was right.

[Jared]

It's.

[Charlie]

You didn't even listen to what I had to say. Okay, it doesn't matter here. On the plus side, here's the difference. When you die, your kid gives you a funeral. If I die, the cats eat my eyeballs.

[Miles]

Correct.

[Charlie]

So that's the difference there. But cats scratch things is the point I was making. And these cats scratch the couch. So. So there you go. That's all I wanted to say. Miles, I didn't want to say that raising a cat is the same way as raising a baby. Okay. I mean, they both have their pluses and minuses, but. Should we take another caller?

[Miles]

Let's do it.

[Charlie]

Miles, you ever go to one of them state fairs, county fairs, or whatever, you look at the tilt world and you're like, is that thing bolted to the ground good enough?

[Miles]

Yeah, I. I have. I have thought that.

[Charlie]

Yeah. And then you get on that ride and you realize, oh no, they forgot a couple screw loose on this one. Yeah, well, if you go flying off.

[Miles]

The tilta world, especially after I have an 18 inch corn dog in my belly, Just absolute no go on the tilt of world.

[Charlie]

I mean, that might do more damage.

[Miles]

Than the tilt's looking at me. Like 18 inches is like, good for you, dude. Yeah, one bite even too.

[Charlie]

Oh, yeah.

[Miles]

Thing down.

[Charlie]

That's impressive.

[Miles]

That's how I got my wife. Well, view. Yeah, saw me at the state fair. If you're just one biting an 18 inch corn dog and the corn dog went in and all that came out was the stick. And if you're in that situation and you happen to get injured in a corn dog related accident, maybe a sophical situation like I avoided, but I could have gone a rock. And you find yourself injured, you got to give Nicolay Law call.

[Charlie]

That's true.

[Miles]

Give him a call. Any esophageal injuries at the state fair. Any, any tilt the world, anything that could happen at a State Fair.

[Charlie]

1-855-Call- Call.

[Miles]

Mr. Nicholas.

[Jared]

Good morning, Joe Rogan podcast.

[Charlie]

He says, good morning, Joe Rogan podcast. Miguel.

[Miles]

Oh, we're on the line, boys.

[Charlie]

What's going on?

[Jared]

So, wait, excellent.

[Charlie]

You're a Canadian living in New Zealand and you got a bone to pick with me, Miguel.

[Jared]

What do I ever, big fella.

[Charlie]

Okay, what's the bone? What's the bone? Because I try to not offend anyone, but here I am getting in all these fights.

[Jared]

Well, I, you know, that's. You got to do it sometimes, right?

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Before I get going here, Miles, I just gotta say you're looking pretty sharp today.

[Miles]

Okay, well, thank you.

[Charlie]

He is looking pretty sharp.

[Miles]

Are you outside? Are you looking at me through the binoculars in the window or.

[Charlie]

He's in your phone.

[Miles]

Yeah, he's in your phone. Are you, are you my NSA agent that I. Or a CIA. CIA agent on my phone?

[Jared]

I'll take them all. Really?

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Well, thank you, sir.

[Jared]

No, I.

[Miles]

So, you know, I really like him. I really like this guy.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I'm looking sharp today too, Miguel.

[Jared]

Yeah, well, you know what? I got bones to pick. So here we go. No, no, no. So listen here, I'm. I'm just working away and I'm doing my thing and listening to you lads and, and it's a good time.

[Blake]

And.

[Jared]

And I hear Charlie say here, he's a hippie. You know, one episode and.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Then the next episode, you know, he's talking to someone else. He says, you know, I'm a redneck. And I, and I said, holy Frank, boys, you can't be one or the other. Now, I know there's some similarities here. You know, you could drink your morning joe out of a mason jar or, you know, plant some food and whatever, but that's about it for similarities. So like, what's the deal here?

[Charlie]

I see where you're going, Miguel. I see you're going well, so, you.

[Miles]

Know, brings up a good point that actually rednecks and hippies are much more similar than you think they are. I mean, they don't shower, you know, they think everyone's out to get them.

[Charlie]

We like to live off the land. If we can't, if it's convenient enough.

[Miles]

They both will go hunt for their food at times.

[Charlie]

Yeah, we'll both eat squirrel.

[Miles]

No, the, the redneck's going for meat and the hippies looking for mushrooms.

[Charlie]

Yeah, you know, I, I, so I kind of look at it sort of through like the kind of a, what, you know, what's best for the, the planet kind of vibe. That's where the hippie thing comes in. But some redneck stuff is good for the planet, like deer hunting, for instance. There's, it's a very low carbon form of protein and they're overpopulated. So, you know, deer hunting in essence is, is a pretty, if you're going to eat meat, period, period, deer's a pretty good meat to eat as long as it doesn't have chronic wasting disease. You probably want to get it tested for that. We're not sure. Now there's a bunch of rednecks out there. They're gonna say that isn't real. But you know, they say that about.

[Miles]

There's rednecks out there, say chronic wasting disease is not a thing. There's deniers out there.

[Charlie]

Oh my God. Yeah. Are you kidding me? Any disease there is, there's deniers, you know, and hippies, by the way, are, I mean, hippies are the reasons Measles is back. So I'm not exactly all on board with that. You know, I, I borrow from what I like from different cultures. I'm a, you know, I'm not into the communes. I'm not fully buying into any one thought process. So. But sometimes I'm a redneck, sometimes I'm a hippie, sometimes I love my, I'm a little biatch. Do we still say biatch? So I, I, you know, I did, I, I got nothing. I got nothing. I'm not really great at anything and, but I do a little bit of everything. Everything. You know what I mean? Jack of all trades. Master. Anyway.

[Jared]

Master of none.

[Charlie]

There you go. Master of some. So I'm just not sure which one yet. But I, I hope I could be a master of one at some point in my life, you know, just not sure which one to commit to, you know, I'm a little wishy washy.

[Jared]

Is that your problem? Have.

[Charlie]

Yeah, yeah. So, Miguel, how does a Canadian get out to New Zealand? Zealand? Who are you on the run for?

[Jared]

Yeah, so, well, you see, we had a Vote in Canada there, you know, not long after yours. Now I'm here. No, no, my wife's actually doing some finishing up school here. She was in university and then they said kindly enough, they're like, hey, if you want to do your last placement somewhere else in the world, just let us know. And she had a best friend here or has a best friend here in New Zealand. And here we are the middle of winter and It's a balmy 59 degrees.

[Miles]

So what are you doing?

[Jared]

Celsius.

[Miles]

What do you do that you get to just follow your wife around to wherever she will goes?

[Jared]

Oh, frig. Well, I was, you know, so you know the. Those little trees, air fresheners you put in your car? Yeah.

[Charlie]

Black ice.

[Jared]

So yeah, that's your choice, eh?

[Charlie]

No, no, it's just what I saw hanging in there. My producer puts them in my car for some reason and he likes the black ice. I can't. I'm not a big fan of the smell personally. I like my own stench.

[Jared]

Right. Hippies don't shower.

[Blake]

Right.

[Charlie]

You got it. You got it.

[Jared]

So I. I was the groundskeeper for the owner of that company up in Canada there.

[Charlie]

Okay.

[Jared]

And it was unfortunate, but I had to tell him that I was, I was taking off and he, he understood. But yeah, so I'm. I'm kind of a jack of all trades outside, you know, cut. Cut the trees down, you know, mow the lawn, the whole deal. So. But yeah, no, I had to up and leave and that was, that was, that was a hard choice there. But I mean, new zeal on.

[Charlie]

It's gorgeous.

[Jared]

Yeah. You been?

[Charlie]

No, I've seen Lord of the Rings. Yeah.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Frivs there and. Yeah, like that. That's cool, man.

[Jared]

The old hobbit.

[Charlie]

Yeah, A little hobbit town. Awesome.

[Miles]

I would love for Charlie to, to dive more into Lord of the Rings. What else happens in the Rings other than Frodo?

[Charlie]

Frodo.

[Miles]

I mean, what else happens in Lord of the Rings?

[Charlie]

My precious.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie]

My precious. Can you see that ring? I can see the ring. Oh, it's kind of like Joker meets Gollum or Gollum or whatever his name is. Is. Have you seen a golem in the wild?

[Jared]

Yeah, that's three or four. Yeah, two or three. You know.

[Miles]

Good for you guys hunt golems down there or.

[Jared]

All the time.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So are you a hippie or a redneck?

[Jared]

Oh, redneck. Don't give me that. Come on. I. I could tell, you know, this whole, this whole island's hippie. I' much for free.

[Charlie]

I've heard, I've heard though that New Zealand is not totally that. I've heard there's like you guys got some, some rednecks there too. Because my buddy lived there being a doctor and he said, and that buddy is, he's more on the hippie, he's kind of a hippie redneck too. But he said there's, there's. You got a lot of, kind of, you know, interesting political things going on on there.

[Jared]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Miles]

But I mean, no idea what that means. What does that even mean?

[Charlie]

He said there's, well, there's a lot.

[Jared]

Of, there's a lot of control going on here.

[Charlie]

A lot of. Oh, a lot of control. You're not a big government control guy, okay? He's a red, he's a redneck. Here's, here's what I mean, come on. Here's the thing. I don't understand. Okay, So I, I mean I, I, basically that's it. We don't want to be controlled. Like what? Whatever side of the political spectrum you're on. Some people just feel like they're being controlled more by. People feel like we're being controlled more by big business. But the commonality is none of us want to be controlled. And that's where my hippie comes in. I feel like big business is just controlling like the shit in our water. Like I don't want to drink plastic, you know. But that's some of the friggin oil companies, man. They're making these plastic bottles and pretending like it's recyclable. That shit's not recyclable. I'm sucking down plastic all day. PFAs, same deal, you know, that's my whole thing is I don't want to be controlled. That's, that's what we got the similarity in here, Miguel.

[Miles]

But then Charlie will go out to his cabin and crank up a gas power powered chainsaw and start cutting some trees down.

[Charlie]

Well, yeah, absolutely, it's a balance. But the, the, the. Well, I mean I've an electric chainsaw. Have you used one Miles? They don't exactly work that well on certain trees, so certain trees you gotta, you know, you gotta use it, otherwise it's not safe because then you know, it's just not cutting the way it should. You don't have the power to get in there. Some trees you gotta use a gas powered chainsaw. But either way you're cutting down the trees dead. It's gonna fall. I'd rather use the wood. So it Is kind of hippie, you know. Now, I do a lot of contradictory things. I mean, don't get me wrong, I am a walking contradiction. But, you know, so is John Prime. Yeah. Humans are. We're a complicated being. So, what.

[Miles]

What is the biggest difference between Canada and New Zealand that you found?

[Jared]

Oh, the food boy. Tell you what, they don't sell cheese curds here.

[Charlie]

No, come on.

[Jared]

I'm just gonna say. Just don't come. Don't. Yeah, tons of cows, you know, you hear New Zealand, everyone tells you about the sheep, but I'd say it's almost, you know, 75. Whatever the other percentage is there, you know, it's a lot of. There's a lot of cattle here. A lot of cattle.

[Charlie]

A lot of cattle.

[Jared]

Beef's expensive.

[Miles]

Also, I love how I bring up Canada. And then he just cranked his accent up.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

It wasn't too prominent. And then he just. Yeah, he turned it on.

[Charlie]

Well, you turned him on, man.

[Jared]

Hey, listen, you get me excited.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Yeah. What? Do you like it overall? Do you like it? Oh, yeah.

[Jared]

Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. If this is winter, this is, you know, like 15 degrees Celsius here. We're used to, you know, minus 35 and 6ft of snow. It's so, like, take this all day. But.

[Miles]

So for US Americans, it's 15 degrees Celsius, 59 Fahrenheit.

[Jared]

We have to count for you.

[Charlie]

What do you do, just add 40 to it?

[Jared]

I just Google it.

[Charlie]

Okay. Google it. Great. Great.

[Miles]

Yeah, that's good. Where at in Canada are you from?

[Jared]

Bancroft, Ontario. So if you draw a line straight from Toronto to Ottawa, we're right dead in the middle. Small town of 3,500 and a bunch of rednecks, tell you what.

[Miles]

So is that kind of between Milwaukee and Fargo? Charlie, if you go.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Jared]

Well, you guys are eight hours apart, aren't you?

[Charlie]

We're about eight hours apart.

[Miles]

Well, like, I mean.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You know what I'm looking for? Where. What was the town?

[Jared]

Bancroft, Ontario.

[Charlie]

There is a town.

[Jared]

It's where in North Jim Carrey got his.

[Miles]

What? Charlie, what is the town name?

[Charlie]

Bancroft.

[Miles]

Bancroft.

[Charlie]

Do you like Neil Young?

[Jared]

Who doesn't?

[Charlie]

Yeah, he's a hippie.

[Miles]

Charlie.

[Jared]

We share some things, you know.

[Miles]

Charlie, do you know that Bancroft's population is around 3, 800 people?

[Charlie]

I didn't know that, Miles. It's a.

[Miles]

Not a lot of people do know it like I do. They're. They're actually a town located on the York river in Hastings County.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I feel like you'd be telling me more about it if your Internet was moving faster.

[Jared]

The biggest rock bass known to man.

[Charlie]

No kidding. There really though them red. That red eyed slinger there. I like those rock bass. You ever eat rock bass?

[Jared]

Oh yeah.

[Charlie]

Oh yeah.

[Miles]

Did you know that it was a mine? I wasn't from New York, you know, from about the mid-1950s to 1982 there.

[Charlie]

I didn't know that. Miles. Thanks for Glad.

[Miles]

They were settled in 1850 by the United Empire loyalists and Irish immigrants.

[Charlie]

Irish immigrants. So that drunks there. You an Irish guy, Miguel?

[Jared]

I wouldn't say so. French Canadian?

[Charlie]

French Canadian.

[Jared]

French?

[Charlie]

You don't speak French? No. French? Not even a wee wee?

[Jared]

No French?

[Charlie]

No French?

[Jared]

Not even. No. It was my first language, but I lost it.

[Charlie]

Oh, Miles. Miles has been learning. Bravo. Bravo. Okay, so how long you guys gonna stay out there in. In New Zealand?

[Jared]

Well, we got a year long visa, but maybe six months. We'll see if I can get work here at some point. Right now we're working with. It's called Work Away, the app. And I just do work for this family and they give us a place to live and food to eat and. But once her two month placements up, then I guess we're just gonna go wandering and see what we can get up to.

[Charlie]

Well, good for you guys.

[Miles]

So you're not a redneck. You are a hippie if you're just gonna wander.

[Charlie]

Hey, hey, Miles, stop it. All wander are not lost, all right?

[Miles]

I didn't say he was lost. I said he was a hippie.

[Charlie]

Yeah, so maybe I got a bone to pick with you now, Miguel.

[Jared]

Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, go ahead.

[Charlie]

I think you're a hippie too, Miguel. What's. What's the thing that you hate most about the hippies? Miguel? What do you hate most about the hippies? Hippies.

[Jared]

But the smell.

[Charlie]

The smell. Okay, Cipher the smell. Because rednecks smell too.

[Jared]

Yeah, I know, you're right. No, no, that's what I'm saying. We share a lot of similarities, but. Yeah, I. I don't know. I'd say I don't. I don't want to say the cult side of it like you said, the commune side of it, I guess everyone's all together. Don't kill nothing. Don't, uh, you know, know sometimes you gotta harm the environment, you know, you gotta have fire, you know.

[Charlie]

Oh yeah.

[Jared]

Sometimes you just gotta drive somewhere. You know what I mean?

[Miles]

No.

[Charlie]

A hundred percent, 100% that. That each individual doing that, that's one thing. But I'm saying, what do you think about a company just like setting up mining, just polluting the river that you fish in? I mean, what's your stance on that? Yeah, mining company sets up shop, ruins the river for walleye fishing. Where are you on in that side of it? Are you on of the mine or like.

[Jared]

Well, you see. Does it bring jobs and money to the community?

[Charlie]

No, it doesn't.

[Jared]

No, it doesn't.

[Charlie]

How many jobs? But what about the people that are fishing? What about the people that are fishing?

[Miles]

Like, there's a Charlie, he got you there. Well, see, that definitely brings jobs to the community.

[Charlie]

No, they were setting up a gold mine in. In Wisconsin. They want to do this. The. The jobs. They say they're going to bring jobs to the community, but really it's like 10 or 15 jobs, and most of goes to some company, some international company that's making all the money. They are robbing us of our resources. And what do we get? Shitty walleye fishing, polluted water. Fuck that. You know that's what I'm saying.

[Jared]

Well, let me tell you this. I'm coming from the Bancroft point of view, and we have the most fresh water in the world. You can't. You can't jump 15ft without jumping in water. So if you're polluting the river, which. The York river, as we described discussed, it's already polluted. Go ahead. We don't fish there anyway. We got about, you know, 1500 lakes to go fish the walleye. It's pike, you know, some.

[Charlie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what if it's the river you live on, brother? What if it's the river all the people live on? You know, Then it's a different story.

[Jared]

Well, I guess that's a different story. That's the.

[Charlie]

And also, all the water is connected, but. Yeah, all the water is connected. So you want to drink a bunch of chemicals that put in the water. No. Why is it hippie? Why is it hippie? I mean, do you want to drink chemicals? Do you want to pay for, like, do. Do you want to be the guy who's paying So a company can make billions of dollars so you drink their chemicals? Do you want to do that? Really?

[Jared]

Why? You put enough chlorine in it.

[Charlie]

No, chlorine, that's another chemical.

[Jared]

D. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm with you. I'm with you.

[Charlie]

All right, he's with me. He's with me. All right. Redneck hippies. How about we call it that? We're redneck.

[Miles]

Just bullied him enough that he didn't bully him.

[Charlie]

I'm open to. I'm open to another logical conversation.

[Miles]

Charlie's argument was basically like if he. If I just get specific enough, he has to agree with me.

[Charlie]

Know that.

[Miles]

What if a mining company comes in, pollutes the river, Then your grandma goes for a swim in there, contracts a disease and she dies. You really think the mining company should come there?

[Charlie]

It's not disease, it's just we. Why do we have to drink their chemicals so they can make a fortune and none of us get any. Anything, you know, all we get is polluted water. You get to make a fortune. So we're paying so you can become a billionaire. That. That's my point, man. That's my point. That's my point. With these robots too, you know, like it's. It's too like there's 200.

[Miles]

Get it out.

[Charlie]

200 billionaires. 200 billionaires have decided for the rest of society that we are going to risk the entire civilization so a bunch of CEOs don't need to pay workman's compensation. Oh, okay, that makes sense. That's fine. I'll risk my life so you guys can get rich. Fuck that. That's what I'm saying, dude. That's why I'm a hippie. That's. And if that's a hippie, that just means you're being spot the whole thing. We have the same commonality, man. Neither of us want to be controlled. We don't want the government to control us. We don't want a bunch of billionaires to control us. Same thing. We just don't want to be controlled. That's it. So if that makes me a hippie, fine. If that makes me a redneck, fine. I just don't want to be controlled. It's a control issue. It's a childhood issue. Yeah, talk to my therapist about it. It's not going away though. Not going away. So. But was nice we could connect on this, Miguel. And you and I, we could find this kind of ground. Yeah.

[Jared]

Oh yeah, I agree.

[Charlie]

Hell yeah.

[Miles]

Well, Miguel, on that note, we appreciate you calling. What time is it there, by the way?

[Jared]

Oh, 6:30 in the morning, boys. I got out of bed for this one.

[Charlie]

Oh, Miguel. Like a nice cup of coffee, huh?

[Jared]

Oh, frag A. I haven't even had it yet.

[Charlie]

Oh, you haven't? Go get caffeinated up, Miguel. Let's go. Let's go.

[Jared]

Oh, you sure you want to put.

[Miles]

That chemical in your body, Charlie?

[Charlie]

Yeah, because I decided to put the chemical in my body. I just. All the. I put.

[Jared]

Here's a fact for you.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I do have to hear it.

[Jared]

Sorry for that. Yeah. You know, this is. This is the country that invented instant coffee. You know that.

[Charlie]

I didn't know that.

[Jared]

I didn't either. They're pretty proud of it though.

[Miles]

Do you think the world is better off with instant coffee or. I feel like to me, instant coffee is just like a. Just a non starter for me, you know? Like I just am like, hey, battery acid. It just doesn't. Just doesn't affect my life at all. If instant coffee. Coffee exists or does this.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Doesn't quite get garbage. Yeah. Yeah. But hey, someone's got to be proud of it, you know.

[Jared]

They'Ll do it, but. Yeah. No. Hey, have you boys seen that Amazon prime show Countdown, by the way?

[Charlie]

No. Is it good? Wow.

[Jared]

The one of the main characters there looks just like Charlie and he's trying to act serious. And I tell you, I laugh all the time.

[Miles]

Is it a Jeffrey Dahmer documentary?

[Charlie]

Shut the fuck up.

[Jared]

No, no.

[Charlie]

I'll have to check it out. But I like that. Just someone who looks vaguely like me trying to act serious. Gets you going.

[Jared]

Yeah. With a gun. Yeah. Pretty funny.

[Charlie]

What. What do we. Oh, oh, dude. All right. Hey, I'll look like that guy. Nice. Nice. He's got the same patchy beard as me too. Look at that. All right, I'll have to watch it. Countdown. You sold me, Miguel. I'm on board.

[Jared]

Yeah, yeah. Good man, good man. I got it. I gotta help someone, you know.

[Charlie]

You do. I appreciate it. Well, you do, you know.

[Jared]

I appreciate you taking. Yeah, yeah, I know you're taking my. My call here.

[Charlie]

And of course, Miguel. Yeah. Tell your wife we says hi. All right? Right.

[Jared]

Yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what those Canadians say here. We say, keep your stick on the ice, lads.

[Charlie]

I like it. I like it. All right, well, we'll see you soon, Miguel. You too. Bye. Bye now.

[Miles]

I feel good. I feel good, Charlie.

[Charlie]

Felt like I just, you know, got it going. What does that mean? That was a mean.

[Miles]

Wouldn't that be funny if we just cut that whole section out?

[Charlie]

No, that's fine.

[Miles]

Every time Charlie tries to take a stance on something, we just cut it out.

[Charlie]

No, don't do that. I don't do that for you. When you take a stance on something, that's cuz.

[Miles]

I like to play a little middleman, Dan, once in a while.

[Charlie]

Once in a while, you're always middle man, Dan.

[Miles]

I. I just like to get into the mix, you know, you just, like, get it and stir it around, you know, stir it around.

[Charlie]

And you just like to watch. Some people just like to watch the World Burger burn my house.

[Miles]

It's like, what do you believe in? And you're like, I believe in chaos.

[Charlie]

What would you do in a car if you caught it? I wouldn't know what to do with it if I got it. Like a dog chasing a car.

[Miles]

Well, we got a voicemail, Charlie.

[Charlie]

Let's listen to the voicemail.

[Miles]

Voicemail from Josh.

[Charlie]

Josh.

[Jared]

Hey, It's Josh. I'm 29 years old with my buddy Dylan, fishing in New Bright, Brunswick, in a little bit of predicament. Just got on the weather network app and it said that we are under severe thunderstorm watch and a tornado warning. We're out on the water, surgeon fishing, seeing them jump everywhere. But we're not catching anything on the line. So do I stay and possibly wait out the storm that might come, or do I stay and wait for the fish to maybe bite our line? Or do we cut our losses and off now? All right, thanks, guys.

[Charlie]

You definitely stay. Absolutely.

[Miles]

I mean, we definitely are listening to this way after the fact. So he may not even be with us anymore because we know that he stayed.

[Charlie]

He absolutely stayed.

[Miles]

But is it. Water's pretty safe for tornadic behavior, right?

[Charlie]

It's interesting. Interesting. It'll. It'll send it ways you don't expect. It's like cutting down a rot tree. You know, it'll fall in ways you didn't anticipate.

[Miles]

I don't know what that means.

[Charlie]

Trees routed in the middle.

[Miles]

No, no, no. The tornado. What do you mean?

[Charlie]

It.

[Miles]

You don't know?

[Charlie]

Once it hits water, it can get pretty unpredictable. Usually.

[Miles]

When you say unpredictable, does that mean it just. It's juking left and right?

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

It's picking up in speed. It's throwing water around.

[Charlie]

Depends on the size of the water and the size of the tornado. Miles.

[Jared]

Okay.

[Charlie]

All right. There's a lot of elements at play, and I can't tell you I know enough to about it. But all I know, it's not something you want to mess with. But I mean, sturgeon. I didn't know you could fish sturgeon on the. On the line. I'm not sure what state he's in. I don't think you can just fish those. You're supposed to avoid the sturgeon. I think in Wisconsin, they're prehistoric fish, you know, Pretty hearty, though. Pretty hardy fish. Yeah. New Brunswick. Okay.

[Miles]

We don't know what they're doing up there.

[Charlie]

They got better populations up there. You seen the walleyes are pulling out of Canada. Oh, my God, they're beautiful.

[Miles]

So you're staying?

[Charlie]

I'd stay, yeah. I'd stay. If my big thing with fishing is if, you know, lightning, that's a big no go for me personally. And tornadoes, it's kind of like, you know. Do you have a place you can go for the tornado? Because if you got a nice little.

[Miles]

I mean, if a tornado is coming and like it's now on the water, don't you just want to jump in the water? Water, Yeah.

[Charlie]

I don't know how that, like, obviously.

[Miles]

And also, does lightning strike water strike stuff around water?

[Charlie]

No, it can. I don't.

[Miles]

Because water, you. You can get electrocuted through water?

[Charlie]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

But how often does electricity or does lightning strike water to where you're in danger? If you're in the water to get.

[Charlie]

To get struck, There's a lot of. On water, there's a lot of metal things, like. So it might strike a dock or something. Something. And then if it's a tall dock, usually it's going for the tallest thing, you know, the quickest path to the ground. That's what.

[Miles]

So lightning, stay out of the water. Tornado, hop on in.

[Charlie]

Yeah. The only problem with that, Miles, is you can't breathe underwater.

[Miles]

Yeah, but.

[Charlie]

You know what I'm saying.

[Miles]

But you can come up for air and go right back down.

[Charlie]

Unless that's when the tornado is right above you. Then you're. But you got a nice soft landing in the water. Maybe it's like a big old.

[Miles]

I don't know about you, but the surface tension on water, if you hit it from too high up, the surface tension can be just like concrete.

[Charlie]

I've heard that. Yeah. You consider jumping off a bridge or two?

[Miles]

No. It's because every time I watch like a action movie, I'm just like. They would splatter if they jumped from that high up.

[Charlie]

Yeah. You never know.

[Miles]

They didn't have anything to break the surface tension.

[Charlie]

Surface tension? Yeah, there was a. I won't even say it. I don't want to promote more people doing it, but you shouldn't do this. But there was someone who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and somehow they survived. I'm not sure how. Maybe they went foot first, had the foot break the surface tension, you know.

[Miles]

But just drop a rock.

[Charlie]

Drop. Oh, go down with rocks in your pockets. Drop the rocks before you're about to get down there.

[Miles]

Drop the rocks first. Because if you drop a rock while you're falling, it will just fall at the same rate that you're falling.

[Charlie]

That's right. God, you paid attention. Science.

[Miles]

I mean depend. It probably will fall faster than you because of wind resistance, but. Yeah.

[Charlie]

Wow.

[Miles]

It's not going to be.

[Charlie]

Yeah. And here I just thought you were an exercise.

[Miles]

I watched a video actually on YouTube shorts. I like to go down rabbit holes.

[Charlie]

Yeah, you like to. You get. You like to get really in depth with your knowledge. I watched a 60 second video teaching me all about.

[Miles]

Oh, it's. It's all just whatever. Charlie.

[Charlie]

No, just.

[Miles]

You just don't. You don't even care to listen sometimes.

[Charlie]

I was listening and so just let.

[Miles]

Me get into it.

[Charlie]

All right. Get into it. Sorry.

[Miles]

It was one. It was one of a part seven video. Okay.

[Charlie]

You really got suckered in. God damn.

[Miles]

And they dropped a bowling ball and a feather in a vacuum and they both landed. Landed on the ground at the same time.

[Charlie]

So that's really helpful for the next time I go to the moon.

[Miles]

I'm just saying. So how often are you gonna be.

[Charlie]

Dropping anything in the back?

[Miles]

So then we have to figure out if you jump off a bridge with a rock in your hand and you let go of the rock, you have to figure out which one is going to take on more air resistance. Because whatever's more air resistance is going to last land seconds.

[Charlie]

Oh, I get it. Because a feather is about flight and.

[Miles]

So a lot of affected by air resistance. So it would take a lot longer to land, but when there's no air resistance, lands at the same time.

[Charlie]

Interesting. Yeah.

[Miles]

See what happens when you just. You sit there and just listen to what people have to say?

[Charlie]

Yeah, it's like a whole new world. I would know so much more stuff if I actually listened. Well, thanks for teaching me that, Miles. Miles the Mansplainer, ladies and gentlemen. That's what we call him. Miles the Mansplainer. Well, now I know. Thank you, Miles. I appreciate that. It's been another wonderful episode of the Bellied up podcast here with you today, Mr. Mon. And I hope you have a wonderful, wonderful rest of your day.

[Miles]

You too, Charles.

[Charlie]

Thanks, pal. Hey you guys get down down to Wills north woods in Chicago. And don't forget, tip your bartender.

[Jared]

Okay. Hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now.