First Date Red Flags 🚩 #200

Summary

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Bellied Up Podcast – Episode #200

Title: First Date Red Flags 🚩
Hosts: Myles ("You Betcha Guy") & Charlie Berens
Release Date: May 14, 2026

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Overview

In this lively episode recorded from Charlie’s rustic cabin, Myles and Charlie riff on the subtle (and not-so-subtle) differences between a lake cabin and a lake home, then take live calls from listeners about Midwestern life, workplace camaraderie, and most notably, first date red flags. Along the way, they share comedic Midwest wisdom, role-play laugh-out-loud scenarios, and reflect on the passing of Myles’ grandpa, whose spirit of storytelling leaves its mark on the conversation.

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Main Theme

Exploring what makes a "lake cabin" vs. a "lake home" and dissecting the etiquette and expectations around first dates—with plenty of Midwestern charm, humor, and unsolicited advice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Cabin vs. Lake Home: The Ongoing Debate

(00:30 – 21:50)

• Structural Differences

  • Cabin: Log vibes, rectangle structure, single TV, questionable water system. “Lake cabin is a place with logs.” – Charlie [01:18]
  • Home: Finished drywall, multiple TVs, permanent water systems, more parking, concrete, and year-round living.
  • Cracks in the kitchen island, questionable deck integrity, and DIY fixes signal “cabin” status.
  • “In a lake home, there’s not a massive crack going down the island in the kitchen.” – Charlie [03:43]
  • Deck repairs are a group dad activity, with how-to advice never suggesting tearing the whole thing out—just more beams and posts. (“A Midwest dad board meeting is just standing around something that needs to be fixed.” – Myles [09:07])

• Atmosphere & Smells

  • Cabins: Musty, piney, occasionally sticky with sap.
  • Homes: Scented candles, HVAC, multiple heat sources.

• Utilities & Amenities

  • Cabin: Wood-burning stove as primary heat, fridge of mismatched beer, vehicles with no gas gauge.
  • Home: Furnace, working air conditioning, reliable UTV with power steering.

• Social/Emotional Indicator

  • Random dad walking in for a beer = “cabin life.”
  • Privacy: If you can’t hear the shower from the bedroom, it’s a lake home.
  • “I could hear you washing your nuts in the shower this morning.” – Myles [12:09]
  • “Those things are clean.” – Charlie [12:14]

• Life Philosophy

  • Reflections on nature’s cycles, life and death, learning from the woods.
  • “The path will always reveal itself.” – Charlie [19:26]

2. Tribute to Grandpa Ralph

(22:06 – 25:58)

• Myles gives a heartfelt toast to his late grandpa Ralph (episode 48 guest), commemorating his wit, love for cribbage, and daily bowl of banana Wheaties.
• “If you’re the guy responsible for the golf course in town, you are kind of the mayor.” – Charlie [23:08]

3. First Call: Trail Cam Chronicles & Workplace Friendship

(26:44 – 51:59)

• Caller (Fargo Electrician): Expresses frustration about coworkers who incessantly share deer trail cam photos, even of does, on job sites.
• Classic Midwest move: Sharing hunting photos is their “language of camaraderie,” even when it’s overkill.
• “There’s only so many no ways I can…” – Caller [36:01]
• Charlie and Myles brainstorm phrases to keep up the conversation (“Wow, look at the base on that rack!” etc.) and ultimately suggest rolling with it—plus, maybe increasing the odds of getting invited to hunt the coveted land.
• “Treat it as a game: how many things can you say to someone when they show you a deer pic?” – Myles [51:07]
• Sketch idea developed live: A guy who derails every conversation to show trail cam pics.

4. Second Call: First Date Red Flags – The Check Split Debate

(56:18 – 80:44)

• Caller (Denit), 26, D.C.: Relays story of her friend (“Amanda”) splitting the check on a first date:
  • He was a bartender-turned-lobbyist; after the woman’s “should we split it?” courtesy, he accepted on the first offer.
  • Office debate: Men see no red flag if the woman offers; women see it as a sign he should have insisted on paying.
• Myles weighs at today’s changing norms but leans old-school: “I would just pay… I’m not judging, but…” [57:22]
• Charlie adds layers: If the woman makes reservations, it's a more ambiguous situation.
• More context: Guy offered to walk her home, but once he learned it was 15 minutes out of his way, suggested an Uber instead—strike two.
• Pay check psychology—sometimes splitting is a subtle “not interested” gesture. “That’s a very subtle, passive-aggressive way to say I don’t want to go on another date.” – Myles [59:40]
• The “tall and funny” conundrum: Amanda wants someone funnier than herself but also tall and able to withstand her “mean humor.”
  • Example: “What do you do when a guy’s on crutches? Kick his crutches down.” [69:32]
  • They discuss partner dynamics with “funny mean” people and the importance of good-natured “audience” partners.
• Advice: Go for low-commitment, affordable first dates. Don't commit to steakhouse dinners unless you're ready to pay. Coffee or one drink is fine!
• Roleplay: Hilarious, improvisational fake sales pitch between Charlie, Myles, and Denit, riffing on work, personal quirks, and relationship tropes.

5. Workplace Banter and Unexpected Turns

• Side chat on sales etiquette, bizarre work video calls (guys showing their bare feet mid-call for big-ticket purchases... or not), and inside jokes about “creaming your khakis” vs. “cream your pants.” [90:01]
• “If that first taste of summer turns into an injury, you got to call Nicolet Law…” ad segue [54:57], exemplifies running gags and sponsor banter.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “In a lake home, there’s not a massive crack going down the island in the kitchen.”
  — Charlie, [03:43]

• “A Midwest dad board meeting is just standing around something that needs to be fixed.”
  — Myles, [09:07]

• “If more than two people can park on a concrete surface, you’re probably at a lake home… The more concrete you got, the more it makes it a home.”
  — Myles, [05:17]

• “A lake cabin is 15 different types of beers in your fridge, because people who came by were just dropping off some beer…”
  — Charlie, [14:34]

• “I tickled the grundle, Miles. I tickled the grundle.”
  — Charlie, [12:19]

• “There’s only so many ‘no ways’ I can… do.”
  — Fargo Electrician Caller, [36:01]

• “The path will always reveal itself.”
  — Charlie, [19:26]

• “If you’re a guy going on a date with a gal, you just need to accept the fact that you’re probably paying for the check.”
  — Myles, [66:26]

• “Treat it as a game: How many things can you say to someone when they show you a deer pic?”
  — Myles, [51:07]

• “You just run out of things to say when you’re getting a pic… If you’re just showing does, that’s next level.”
  — Fargo Electrician Caller, [34:18]

• “She needs a guy who thinks she’s really funny.”
  — Myles, [69:21]

• “I would be picking that restaurant, though. I would be like, you know, I like going hiking. I was a big hiker. Coffee’s a good way to start it off. This is a good PSA—don’t commit to a full-time dinner.”
  — Charlie, [78:54]

• “You creaming your pants? We say ‘cream your khakis.’ It’s more professional—biz cash.”
  — Myles, [90:34]

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Notable Timed Segments

• Lake Cabin vs. Lake Home debate: 00:30 – 21:50
• Toast to Grandpa Ralph and Wheaties wisdom: 22:06 – 25:58
• Trail Cam Call / Workplace banter: 26:44 – 51:59
• First Date Red Flags Discussion: 56:18 – 80:44
• Roleplay Sales Call & Office Comedy: 83:01 – 91:30
• Midwestern Advice and Sign-off: 92:07 – End

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Tone & Style

• Warm, meandering Midwest humor, full of self-deprecation, accidental wisdom, and playful improvisation.
• The camaraderie is palpable—part old friends debating at a bar, part modern men trying to navigate changing social norms.
• Listeners are treated to heartfelt asides, “dad” moments about nature and structure fixes, frequent callbacks to running gags, and generous space for listener participation.

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Who Should Listen?

• Anyone who enjoys Midwest humor, relatable life advice, and friendly, improvisational banter.
• Those nostalgic for family cabin life—or curious about the cultural touchstones of the Upper Midwest.
• Listeners navigating workplace or dating dynamics will find plenty to relate, laugh, and learn from here.

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Final Takeaway

This episode mixes homespun wisdom, camaraderie, and sharp, friendly banter. Whether you’re arguing about what qualifies as a “lake home,” enduring endless trail cam pics on the job, reflecting on family, or wondering if you should've split the check, Myles and Charlie remind us: Midwest life is equal parts practical advice and running jokes—and it’s best enjoyed with a cold beer and a hearty laugh.

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“Change your air filter, folks. Watch for deer. And tip your bartender!” – [93:15–93:20]

Transcript

[A]

Hey there, folks. Welcome to a new episode of the Belly Dub podcast. And we are alive, ladies and gentlemen, from my, my cabin. Here we are in the great north woods up north somewhere north to Highway 8 where life is great. My buddy Miles came to town and let me tell you, it's going down today on the Bellied up podcast.

[B]

We got the full tour yesterday, so before we. Yeah, okay.

[A]

Before we what, Miles?

[B]

Well, so you. This a lake cabin, at what point does it become a lake home? What's the difference in your mind between a lake cabin and a lake home? If it's. Cuz I think there is logs.

[A]

Cabin, I always feel like has got some kind of log vibe. Right? Technically a log cabin. But then why would they put log in front of it if they had to specify and then they would just call it it's a cabin. So now as a guy who doesn't know the definitions of this, Miles.

[B]

No, that's what we're going to find out today. So. Okay, we're going to, we're going to define them ourselves.

[A]

Okay? Okay.

[B]

So what's the difference between a log cabin? No, sorry, what's the difference between a lake cabin and a lake home?

[A]

Lake cabin is a place with logs.

[B]

Okay, so it's got, it's got logs. I think that if it's a rectangle box, I think that that makes of a lake cabin than a lake home if you got jogs in the wall. You know, I feel like you're, you're, you're venturing into a lake home.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I think you got a rectangle here, Chuck.

[A]

It's a standard rectangle. Two rectangles, actually. Yep. Because that is the thing about, you know, log facade or infrastructure or full log or three quarter log, you know, however you log it, it's tough to make a lot of turns. You know, it's a lot easier to just kind of, kind of box her up and call her a day, you know? So I think that it.

[B]

So Charlie, you got your, your water station on the counter.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I think if you have a more complicated way of getting clean drinking water than just using the tap, I think it constitutes more of a lake cabin than a lake home.

[A]

Okay. Okay. And you're saying like a lake home would have a sort of more conducive water system, perhaps installed in the basement already?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But if you're like, hey, just so you know, I wouldn't drink the tap water, and you're like, okay, well, I'm not going to be up Here that, you know, every week. So I'll just get like, you know, kind of a countertop. Countertop filtration system.

[B]

If I think if it's got more than one tv, you're probably a lake home and you got the one TV back there. I haven't seen another one. So I think you're still in lake cabin territory.

[A]

Yeah, there's, there's only now. But this is, this is the question. Lake home, does that sort of define the fact that you're living there year round? Is it just that simple?

[B]

But I, there's, you know, I mean, really what we're talking about is like rich people versus normal people is what I'm saying, Chuck.

[A]

Oh, I got it.

[B]

So, like, you can have a lake home.

[A]

I like how you not be where you live.

[B]

Yeah. I'm explaining the segment to you live. And maybe we should just do that. So, Charlie, here's what we do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're going to explain the differences between really nice lake. Lake residences.

[A]

All right?

[B]

Not like.

[A]

Let me tell you this, Miles. In a lake home, there's not a massive crack going down the island in the kitchen.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And on a lake home, there's not a deck where you're wondering if it's going to fall through or not.

[A]

Yeah. At a lake home, you're not sitting there going, should there be footers here? There would already be.

[B]

Not even cross your mind. No, but at lake cabin, you think about that stuff. You're thinking about structural integrities.

[A]

Yeah. You're like, so if they put that little thought into the deck, did they?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Huh. Are these structural?

[B]

So what's funny is you're talking about the deck and stuff, and you're talking about how some guy just built this before you got it. Yeah. And I'm looking at these beams, I'm like, that's a long span for those. I hope they're not structural.

[A]

No, I.

[B]

It's a long span. And that one's kind of bowed, so I hope that that's just ornamental.

[A]

It is bowed. And also they're all the thickest on this side.

[B]

Yeah. They didn't even alternate them, which.

[A]

And, and I do not know anything about log cabin construction, obviously, but you would think if those had some kind of structural importance, they would have evened it out a bit. Yeah. You know, symmetry is important with.

[B]

Yeah, they get pretty skinny by the end there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's all right.

[A]

You don't want to do pull ups on those. You don't want to do Pull ups on those, I'll tell you that much.

[B]

I think if you. If you have.

[A]

Oh, he's taking off there.

[B]

Good to see you. I think that if. If more than two people can park on a asphalt or concrete service, you're probably at a lake home. The more concrete you got, the more it makes it a home.

[A]

As soon as you introduce concrete, that would be. I mean, that's especially for parking, you know, unless you're just. If there's a concrete slab there.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Unless I'm talking, there's like an apron right in front of the garage that's like maybe 12ft. If there's anything more than that, you're getting the lake home territory.

[A]

Yeah. If you got. If you got a. An in ground basketball hoop. Pretty good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, there's my dad. Yeah, I know. You want a beer?

[B]

No, I'm gonna be driving.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Thanks anyway.

[A]

All right. Everything go good out there? All right.

[C]

Thank you.

[A]

Yeah. Like, cabin. Your dad walks in in the middle of your podcast, clearly wants a beer,

[B]

but doesn't want to inconvenience us. Yeah. I mean, like, you're just. We. We rolled up and we looked at you, and we're like, hey, where do you want us to park? And you just come like us.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, you just kind of just move to the ether, you know, somewhere.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's how you know you're probably at a cabin.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, lake home drywall.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

There's definitely painted walls.

[B]

Painted walls. Definitely a lake home.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Cabins got, you know, paneling or actual. Actual wood, not just the. The fake stuff, you know?

[A]

Yep. No sheds at a lake house. Two types of sheds at a lake cabin.

[B]

And what are the two sheds?

[A]

Well, that. That was sort of like me, like, doing a bump set, and then you. And you're like, shed the store stuff and deer sheds.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Antler sheds. I was trying to bump. Bump set you there, mouse. I thought we had our. I guess our flow's not quite there yet in this podcast, but we're getting there. We're just kicking off the dust of our wild night last night. Miles and I came. Oh, yeah. Miles came over and we just started kicking at my deck for a little bit, going. Yeah, I don't know what you're gonna do about that.

[B]

Well, we discussed options.

[A]

We did discuss options then, actually, it's kind of fun. My dad and brought his buddies over, Right. And I had all of them. I had all of them sitting there getting under the deck, giving me a few suggestions.

[B]

Meeting of the Minds. What'd you find out?

[A]

The. The consensus was, was to just run another beam over there and then just. You don't need to put it right in the corner just to add a couple in there.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

What's that then?

[C]

You just support it in the middle of the beam.

[A]

Support it in the middle of the beam.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah. That would have made sense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Everything's just a garage when you think about it. You know, there's nothing like. Nothing like having like a committee of dads looking at your deck.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Just with.

[A]

Well, you could do this and you could do that and then someone says something and you're like, I should have thought about that.

[B]

A Midwest dad board meeting is just standing around something and it needs to be fixed and they're throwing out ideas

[A]

and it's just involves some kind of board, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a board involved.

[B]

Well, and then it's. There's never a suggestion that you should just tear it out and redo it. No, always. Hey, I think I got a fix that, you know, would be. You know, and everything is always. You do it real easy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, It'd be so easy. You just put a post right here and a post right there. You're good. Mm.

[A]

Yeah. That's not going to anywhere.

[B]

Because you would get laughed out of this Midwest dad board meeting if you suggested anything difficult.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're just not going to be around very long.

[A]

You mean you're going to take that tree out?

[B]

Oh, God. I wouldn't.

[A]

Why? What for? What are you trying to prove?

[B]

Did anyone suggest maybe just. Just screwing it right to those trees that are on either side?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Actually knew it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Just screw it right to there. And then you can just take the posts out altogether.

[A]

Yeah, you can actually.

[B]

A great way.

[A]

Treehouse.

[B]

A great way to eliminate work is just by eliminating pieces in the. In the machine.

[A]

When God gave you. I mean, I'm sitting here trying to put footers and God gave me two footers right there, you know, not two feet, but two trees. Yeah. Anyway, they're. They're really rooted in there. What Better.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

I mean, nice. You like that? They're not going anywhere, those trees. Unless a strong wind comes, then you're kind of. If you're.

[B]

If a tree uproots, I feel like also the. The Midwest dad meeting around something to fix. They're also. There's a lot of. You know, it always starts with like, well, you know, if it were me. Yeah, if it were me, I would do this and but then it always goes, but you know, I'm not going to tell you what to do.

[A]

Right. And that's. That's polite. That's. That's that, you know, but if you really screw it up, then it's. That was no longer a if it was me. It was I told you, you know, like, if you do it the wrong way after, you get an if it was me and if it was me as a polite. But if you don't take the if it was me, you better hope it works out or you're gonna get I told ya, you know? Yeah, yeah. That's how it goes.

[B]

But yeah, I think that also the. One of the final things about whether it's a cabin or a lake home, like home or lake cabin.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think that if you can go into a bedroom and you can't hear what's going on in the rest of the cabin, it's definitely a home. Yeah, Yeah, I heard you.

[A]

I just heard you breathing last night and you were. A bathroom separate. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't even a snore. It was just a. I could hear

[B]

you washing your nuts in the shower this morning.

[A]

Could you? Yeah, I wasn't.

[B]

I can tell you what, guys, those things are clean. Getting after.

[A]

I tickled the grundle, Miles. I tickled the grundle. Hey, lake home, you know, you have lake home, you have species of trees that don't grow here. Normally, lake cabin, you push down a dead tree and almost kill yourself. Cut to video.

[B]

Charlie got a little excited yesterday.

[A]

I did. I got a little excited with a dead tree. I was like, I can push this one down. I didn't. I didn't appreciate another branch that was in the fall path which ricocheted the top of the tree toward me. But I. My cat like skills.

[B]

And then we were telling your dad last night we were doing. And he was not happy with you.

[A]

He was disappointed.

[B]

He just kept saying widowmaker over and over. A lot of widowmaker talk.

[A]

We were.

[B]

I think that there was like two sentences where he said widowmaker eight times.

[A]

We nosed up to that, telling him the full story of what happened. And, well, we said the story, but no one showed the video after the initial reaction to the story.

[B]

Yeah, no, yeah. That would have been a bad idea.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Makes me think twice about posting that video now. Ah, it's good to listen to your dad. Oh, lake home electric chainsaw. Like cabin. Oh, wait, did I get the right. Like home, like home. Like that little tree nipper chainsaw. You know, like one of those cute ones.

[B]

Kind of like a hedge trimmer.

[A]

You mean like a little hedge trimmer deal and. Yeah, like, kind of on the. You know, they're cute. They're kind of on a pole. What. What is that?

[B]

What is it, a pole saw?

[A]

No, it's like. But it's a little chainsaw. Oh, it's just an electric pole saw. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I mean, I think heat source is a big deal. If it's a cabin, you got an actual wood fireplace.

[A]

Oh, that's good. Yeah, yeah. Cabin. Cabin. If the fireplace is an actual source

[B]

of heat, Lake home. If you got an actual furnace pumping heat through the place, definitely a leg home.

[A]

Yeah. Yep. That's true. Oh, lake, lake, cabin. 15 different types of beers in your fridge because people who came by were just dropping off some beer, and. And you know, you got more people coming, so even if it's not your favorite beer, you're like, oh, someone will drink it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, I think also smells are big. There's not a distinct cabin smell when you walk in.

[A]

Did this one smell?

[B]

No, it just. I wouldn't say like. I feel like some cabins are kind of musty smelling.

[A]

Yeah, that's exactly what my buddy said about mine.

[B]

Yeah. So.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But lake home just smells like, you know, scented candles.

[A]

Yeah, there's. I am the scented candle.

[B]

It smells like pine when you walk in here, but that's because it's actually pine smell and not a pine scented candle.

[A]

You can see the SAP on the. On the logs here.

[B]

Your soundboard is about to be so sticky. Sticky?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You sat in the wrong spot, Jared. Your computer keys are gonna stick together. I swear it's SAP. Nothing El. Okay. Even on the company, on a humid

[A]

day, that is a little stickier.

[B]

You get that fireplace running, you're gonna have SAP everywhere. A lake home is. If you got a. If you got a utility vehicle, it starts right up. And if lake cabin takes about 15 minutes for her to warm up.

[A]

Yeah. She just had to be warmed up. Miles. All right.

[B]

And then also, if your vehicle doesn't have a gas gauge on it, and if at some point you have to say, yeah, I mean, I. I don't know how much. When we're as far away from the cabin as we possibly can be, and you say. And you say, well, I hope we have enough gas in here to get home.

[A]

That's definitely like, cabin vibes right there. Yeah. Lake home. You got a GPS in your. You got a windshield. We'll put it to you that way. You got a windshield on your utv. If that thing had a windshield, they'd be broken. So I don't even know why we're.

[B]

Maybe it did have a windshield at some point.

[A]

I will say, when we took it, we took it farther down the path than I have gone. And we did. We were able to break off a few dead branches, so that helps. I just hope everyone closed their eyes. Should have warned you about that. But yeah.

[B]

What are you gonna do about the power steering on that bad boy?

[A]

I am the power steering, yeah. Lake home power steering. Lake cabin.

[B]

I am the power steering, steering, yeah.

[A]

Lake home heat. Lake cabin. Oh, lake home air conditioning. Lake cabin ceiling fans. Yes.

[B]

There you go. And also, that ceiling fan is so tiny for this area.

[A]

It goes fast, though. If I turn it on, you'll be like, oh, that's got a V6 on it. Good God.

[B]

Gas powered lake cabin. Gas powered ceiling fan.

[A]

Turn that. You just hear a generator kick in somewhere. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, That was good, Chuck.

[A]

It was a thought.

[B]

You got a great cabin here.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you, Miles. Yeah, it needs a little TLC in some places, but, like, I really got to fix this island before that splits. You can see it's been tried fixed before. There's some dried glue in it.

[B]

Been tried fixed.

[A]

It's been tried fixed. But I got to. You see it splitting good because I think someone. I'm going to have to take all the stuff out because I think it's being pushed on somewhere and. Or it's just gravity doing its thing. Miles, we see it out there in the woods, and the nice thing about the woods is it teaches you, is that every tree that falls, it may be the death of the tree, but it's the beginning of a new life of a moss or a morel mushroom or. That's true, you know, a psychedelic.

[B]

I mean, honestly, I wish. I wish we would have Mike Charlie up for his tour because the amount of life lessons. We joked at some point that I felt like I was on a company retreat and you were just spewing out life lessons about life and death. Death and what you can learn. And sometimes you just need to, you know, go for a walk in the woods to clear your head. Just all sorts of. Just. Just little nuggets of information from you. That was really nice.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, the path will always reveal it.

[B]

That was one of them, too. And he said that when we were looking at where we were going to drive next in the UTV and thinking, all right, it's either we're going to get slapped in the face with a bunch of branches or he's going to ram this into a tree. And he said, path will always reveal itself.

[A]

And it did. And I did get smacked a little bit. The nice thing too, is like, one season's marsh is another. Another season's, you know, you know, when it, when a marsh, yeah, it's. It's tough walking in a Martian summer, but that's why you come up here in winter. It's. It's adds a whole new set of acreage, you know, and new lands. The different seasons make the land look different. It's a whole new. Whole new thing here. In the winter, you'd be like, where am I? I've gotten lost out there in the winter.

[B]

So we were like, you know, we're doing this, and you actually seem like you know what you're doing. So we're like, oh, like, what does your, like, girlfriend think when you do this with her? And he goes, oh, I've only done this with you guys and my. And my nephews. That was it.

[A]

My nephews, by the way, are like 6 and 4. 3. They loved it.

[B]

Yeah, my brother. I did feel. I really appreciated you being vulnerable with us too, Chuck. And you showed us the spot in the winter where you walk out there and you take a nap. Oh, yeah, it was really nice.

[A]

Yeah. You know, my napping spot, there's nothing better than having a nice cold nap. You know, if you're. If you're all hopped up in the big snow pants and the big coat. It's really nice because then you get that coldness on your face.

[B]

Just cuts your back.

[A]

That's how big. Yeah, it's, it's. It does. It cups your back. It's like. And you can just pie the. The tore up roots. You know, when a tree falls and the roots go up, I mean, that's like a throne in the woods in the winter.

[B]

It's also a great plus. Great spot to build a shelter I found from Luke from the Outdoor Boys Channel. Absolutely drops a lot of heat. You got a fire up in the next thing and it radiates it pretty much.

[A]

Oh, I've never put a fire in there.

[B]

That's first if you're surviving.

[A]

Oh, yeah, no, I, I'm. I don't have to survive out here. I gotta.

[B]

You gotta lake cabin.

[A]

Got a lake cabin. You're thriving, dude.

[B]

Well, Chuck, should we do some callers?

[A]

I mean, we'll take some callers. Podcast is this.

[B]

Man, I think I'd rather do than take Caller's chunk.

[A]

All right, now I get it.

[B]

Before we do that, Chuck, though, we got to give a little toast to my grandpa.

[A]

Yes, we do.

[B]

Since the last time we recorded, my grandpa Ralph unfortunately passed away at 96 years old. And the reason why I bring it up is he was on episode 48, the bellied up podcast, when we were in Castleton, North Dakota, and lived a long, good life, but obviously sad to see him go. And so we just wanted to give a little toast and cheers to Gramps, and we'll see you again soon, bud.

[A]

Cheers. Well, that's great. And we got to cut in one of the videos. I forget exactly what he said, but

[B]

I think he was talking about how he knew a guy in the mob

[A]

or something, that he walked. Dude, the way he walked in back then. 94. I guess that was two years ago or something.

[B]

Yeah, three.

[A]

He walked in. He walked in like the mayor of that town. And didn't you say that he was responsible for the golf course. Course in that town?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I mean, if you're the guy responsible for the golf course in the town, you are kind of the mayor of that town, you know?

[B]

That's pretty Cottonwood.

[A]

Old Cottonwood. Now, remind me, what. What was it your grandpa did?

[B]

He was a farmer.

[A]

Huh? Who?

[B]

Well, yeah, he loved golf and farming. That's about it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And gambling.

[A]

Oh, he's a big gambler, too.

[B]

Was when he was in the nursing home run at the end. The last time I saw him, he. He, like, told my mom to come over there, and he's like, hey, I need you to grab my jar quarters from the house so that when he's playing cards he can still bet on it.

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That's the. Was he playing for nickels or quarters? Do you know quarters? Quarters. He was going hard.

[B]

Bucket game.

[A]

Really? What was his game of choice?

[B]

Do you know cribbage?

[A]

Oh, he's a cribbage man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Did you play cribbage with him a bunch?

[B]

A little bit, yeah. My dad is. Him and my dad have played a lot of games of cribbage.

[A]

Yeah, my dad's a big cribbage guy. He brings a cribbage board with him. Did your grandpa bring a board with him to the home?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, nice. Did he have a few different clothes?

[B]

Cribbage board. And that's it. What's. What's kind of funny? So my grandpa, every morning he would eat a bowl of Wheaties with, like, sliced up bananas in it. Every Morning.

[A]

Breakfast.

[B]

I don't know how many champions, dude. I don't know for how many years. And after he passed, my mom was like, so you guys. Do you guys want any Wheaties? Like, they were buying them in bulk, so we got a lot of Wheaties to get rid of. How many?

[A]

How many Wheaties?

[B]

I don't know, but. But if my mom's trying to pawn him off, it had to have been a lot.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Enough Wheaties boxes to feel bad about throwing them away.

[A]

Did you take a box?

[B]

I haven't yet.

[A]

I feel like you got to take a box. Yeah, yeah. And then. And then. Yeah. Have a bowl every year on his birthday.

[B]

That's true. There you go.

[A]

Yeah. Get a couple boxes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, hey, in fact, I think you should start getting some Wheaties every morning, Miles. I mean, your grandpa lived in 96.

[B]

True. You know, it's like the old, old people are like, what's the secret to living to 100? And they're like, I had a beer every day, and that was it. Yeah, beer and cigarettes. That's what got me here.

[A]

Black coffee, beer and a cigarette. Yeah. Wheaties with bananas. Get that potassium in. Well, there you have it, folks. You didn't ask for some health advice today, but we got it.

[B]

Eat your Wheaties.

[A]

Eat your Wheaties.

[B]

I think I just came up with that phrase.

[A]

Eat your Wheaties. Yeah, that. You should pitch that to them, see if it. See where it goes. Can be an athlete. You know, maybe they should do something where they put athletes on the weedy.

[B]

That's a good idea, dude.

[A]

We should. We should call.

[B]

Wheaties are, like, American, you know? So, like, you could also maybe do, like, a special edition, like, Olympics where they put Olympians.

[A]

Oh, that's not a bad idea.

[B]

It's a good idea.

[A]

I wonder, though, if you start putting, like, football teams on a wedi box, it might be, like kind of a curse and not good luck for them in the long run.

[B]

Kind of like the Madden cover.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

All right. Chuck, should we do some callers, you

[A]

know, at this point?

[B]

Miles, we're going to talk.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Collars.

[C]

Let's talk this Charlie and Miles.

[A]

Yeah, you got it, Tommy. How we live in my guy.

[C]

We're doing. We're doing pretty good just working up here in Fargo, you know, having her. Having ourselves a day.

[A]

What are you doing over in Fargo?

[C]

I'm working at the border states warehouse.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[C]

North Fargo off of 29 there.

[A]

The board estates, Border states.

[C]

It's an electrical supply house. It's a brand new building we're putting up. I've been working here for about a little over a month.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Right in your territory, Miles.

[B]

I know, which is funny because I'm eight hours away in Wisconsin and you're in Fargo.

[A]

How's the weather over there today?

[C]

It was nice this morning, but, you know, it likes to get windy every day, so, you know, it's. It's blowing right now.

[A]

She blowing good yet still?

[C]

Yeah, it's like 50 degrees and probably, you know, 18, 20 mile an hour wind. Good day to fly a kite if you had one.

[A]

Oh, you gotta get a kite.

[C]

Yeah, I know I gotta get one. I. I keep telling myself that.

[B]

What do you do in the warehouse? You driving forklift or.

[C]

No, no, it's. What's Brandon building? So I'm an electrician, so I've been running a lot of EMT and.

[B]

Oh, oh, so you're building the warehouse.

[C]

Building the warehouse.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So you got your like, nails painted then?

[C]

I suppose, Yeah, I figured that was coming. I figured that was coming from a concrete guy.

[B]

Yeah. You're wearing a banana hammock.

[C]

My back out at 25, you know, so I picked a different trade.

[B]

Well, so you picked the other trade where they get your back blown out then.

[A]

Nice, Miles, nice. God, he's, he's just. He did say that we were gonna do some callers today, so. Yeah, here, we got it.

[C]

What do you mean by doing callers, Miles?

[A]

Yeah, thank you.

[B]

Well, I'll keep them in line.

[C]

Yeah, please.

[B]

Yeah, I will if you can't.

[C]

You okay?

[A]

Oh, wow. Miles got an invite. My dad's leaving, so he's giving us the goodbye here. Just so our caller is on it, knows what's going on. Do you forget anything there, dad, or. No checking. All right. Anything you forget I can bring. Yeah. Hey, don't believe that.

[B]

That was, that was.

[A]

Ah, sure.

[B]

That was the classic dad leaving final put down.

[A]

Yeah, Just had to leave me one for the road.

[B]

It's like, hey, I didn't put you down enough.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Over the last few days. Here's one final one for the road.

[A]

Yeah, you guys saw him do that a few times he likes.

[B]

But yeah, no, before I said we were going to do some collars and Chuck said, really? I think I'd rather take some collars. And I said, I think I'd rather do collars and take collars.

[C]

That's fair enough. That's fair enough.

[A]

A little, little sexual humor, which is

[B]

what happens when you're at the Cabin.

[A]

A little soft innuendo going on there.

[C]

Yeah, it's just locker room talk is all.

[A]

It is, it is. And we're trying to keep this. Dudes trying to keep this church friendly, but you know, it is what it is, so. Yeah, but belly on up to the bar here. Tell us what's on your mind.

[C]

Yeah. So thank God I got a pretty decent memory. And I think I left the voicemail about a little over a month and a half ago. But when I was traveling, unlike the oil pipeline, there was two guys that I was working with. And you know, I'm a big outdoorsy guy, but they would not stop. Talk about deer hunting.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And they talk about trail cam pics of their uncle's brother in law's that shot this ten pointer, ten point. Show me the picture.

[B]

Where, where was this at?

[C]

Like, where was I working or.

[A]

No, where was the deer? Where?

[C]

It was a temple, North Dakota.

[B]

Oh, wow, that's pretty.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Do they.

[A]

Do you know the measurements of that ten pointer?

[C]

No, no, they just would show me pictures of it and wouldn't tell me where it was. But they're like, yeah, look at this one, look at this one. And for, you know, a month straight it was just not. And now I'm wondering if I'm in the wrong of when they would bring it up. I would flat out tell them like, I don't effing care.

[A]

Oh, you don't care.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, wow. Geez.

[B]

So do these guys, do these guys have some land in North Dakota or they just enter in the lottery to try and get. Get these?

[C]

Oh, they got, they got land in

[A]

North Dakota and what were their names?

[C]

Thing is, I'm like, can I hunt it? And they're like, no. And it's like, well then I don't care what deer you got on.

[A]

Ah, yeah, I see how that goes. I see.

[B]

Well, so was there like, were they. Do you think that. What, like you said you saw a ten pointer where there's some nice racks. They were showing you, like, what did you. Were you seeing?

[C]

Oh, yeah. I mean, there was some phenomenal deer that was. I was being shown. There was one that was shot by like his uncle's nephew or something.

[B]

Do you have pics of that?

[C]

I don't have them on my phone, no.

[A]

God damn, we'd love to see those.

[C]

I'm not a good source, but also

[A]

he lets his uncle's nephew hunt there, but not even gonna broach the idea. Were you good friends with him or just kind of friends?

[B]

His, his Uncle's nephew is. Would be his brother.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I can't do math, but could potentially be his brother.

[B]

Yeah, it's like on Shark Tank when they're. When he says like, who's the investor in your company? And he says, oh, it's my wife's father in law. And they're like, so it's your dad?

[C]

Yeah. Some random picture of a deer that they'd show me and be like, yo, look at this one that I. That was shot four years ago and right by my uncle's land.

[A]

And it's just like, what'd that one look like?

[C]

Oh, it was nice. It was like a nice freaking. Had super tall split brow tides. I think it was a 14 point or something, so. I mean, it wasn't 14 pointer. It was 14. Yeah.

[A]

All right, so can you. Do you still have his number?

[C]

I do have his number.

[A]

Just text him for that picture real quick. You don't mind?

[B]

That'd be great.

[C]

The amount of pictures that he's got on his phone of deer.

[A]

Well, I mean, whatever he's willing to send, we'll take a look.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. So what was your issue with this again? It sounds like a great.

[B]

Sounds like a great group of guys.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, there. I mean, it was like I'm. I'm a huge hunter. You know, big into duck hunting, big into deer hunting. But like when you hear about it every single solitary day.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

10 hours a day when you're working next to a guy, I'm trying to wire in a PLC and I'm getting a trail cam picture of a dough and he's showing it to me. It's like, I don't care what the doll looks like. Your doll looks like.

[A]

Showing trail cam pics of just a doe. Is this pretty next level? Yeah, I will say that.

[C]

Just be like, oh, yep, this one just came by the. The trail cam and it's just like, okay, yeah, show me about 50 photos in the last last three days.

[A]

Well, what else do you know about them?

[C]

Know about the guys? Yeah, I mean that. I mean, they've been in the trade for a while. They're avid hunters too. The one guy's a stew fan, but it just seemed like everything was just deer hunting, no matter. No matter what.

[B]

Yeah, I like, I like how the tidbit you told us is that they like hunting too. Like, imagine if they're like, they don't hunt, but they just love trail cam picks.

[C]

That'd be some type of fetish then.

[B]

We didn't say that he was Pleasuring himself to these trail campaigns.

[A]

Whitetails only.

[C]

You're taking a lot of pictures of animals and just kind of, you know.

[A]

Well, the dough does kind of lead us down that path, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just a solitary dough is.

[B]

What was the thing that rubbed you the wrong way about it? Is it that you thought they're being insensitive or what? Like, keep was.

[C]

I don't. It's just the fact that they just did not want to. It was just. I'm getting shown gear can picks every freaking day.

[B]

Is it because you ran out of thing token things to say, you know, because, like, there's only so many things you say when someone shows you a trail cam pick. Yeah, like, oh, look at that. That's a nice rat.

[C]

There's only so many, like, oh, no way.

[B]

What. What time did he come by?

[A]

Guy, he said, there's only so many no ways I can.

[B]

No way.

[A]

You do the thing where you put your hands on. Just zoom in on it. Huh? Wow.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When did you see that the base of that rag is thick? No way.

[C]

You just run out of to say when you're getting a pick. It's like, now if you're like, oh, yeah, check out this deer. Then look at these grouse that I shot. Look at these pheasants I shot. And look at these ducks I shot. It's like, okay, we're mixing it up a little bit. Like, you know, we're switching conversation and I'm seeing some different, you know, multi species action.

[A]

That's what you're looking for.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. I think it just. It's a classic. Like you just ran out of stuff to say.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So, Charlie, what are some things that if you. If your buddy shows you a trail cam pic, what are some things you can have in your back pocket to say to keep the conversation going?

[C]

1.

[A]

Oh, you got more. Swipe left.

[B]

Oh, God, I'd love to get my hands on that.

[A]

Let me take a look at that. Oh, geez. Okay, that's.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So that's a human rack.

[B]

All right, so first of all, we have. You got more and. Oh, geez. Yeah, that's what you got for us.

[A]

Well, you know, hey, okay, you can ask him where his property is. You can ask him if you can hunt on the property. You can ask him, you know, does he like bow hunting or do you know if he likes bow or gun hunting?

[C]

They. They bow and rifle hunt.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Has to go on their property. And they said no. So that also rubbed me the wrong way.

[A]

I started to Wonder, though. I mean, to. To flat out ask and to get turned down like that. Do you guys have a good banter back and forth? Like, are you friendly or is this.

[C]

Oh, yeah, yeah, we get along great.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

Even though he's like 30 years older than me, we get along pretty good.

[A]

And how did he say no? How did he say no?

[C]

He was like, ah, I don't know. It's kind of just for our family only.

[A]

Oh, that's an authentic. That's an authentic no right there. Yeah, that's.

[C]

It's no different than, you know, you're trying to get permission and they're like, oh, yeah, I think my nephew's hunting over there. It's like, really? Your nephew's deer hunting? A slew. Okay.

[B]

I think another thing you could try out, maybe you have tried this, but I. I actually pulled this one out on your dad last night.

[A]

What?

[B]

You. He wasn't showing me trail cam pics, but he did a. He did a verbal trail cam pick, and he was telling me that he saw eight deer standing by your shed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I said, you know, we're here in May, and he's. And you see all those deer, but as soon as deer season comes around, they're nowhere to be found. Right. Say that, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, say like, oh, they're on your cam now, but deer season comes, they're gonna be at the neighbor's spot. You tried that one?

[C]

I will. I might have to try that one.

[B]

So that's what I mean. You gotta just start building a deeper bench of things to say.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, that's why I called in here.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

To get to the experts. Are you trying to build a deeper friendship, or are you just trying to really just get an invite to the property? You know, because. Don't take the first no as a no.

[C]

I'm not taking the first no as a no. Because sometimes it can turn into a yes.

[A]

Yeah, sure. Have you brought them any gifts?

[C]

Yeah, when we were out. I mean, this was. This was like last fall when I was traveling with these guys. I haven't worked with them in a while, but when we were traveling together, it's like, yeah, we bring meals for each other. And chicken.

[A]

Well, that's really nice.

[B]

So here's a question for you. What are these guys supposed to do? They're working with you all day. They're maybe kind of a little bit bored. The same old different day. They get a notification on their phone that their trail cam's got some movement on it. What Are they supposed to do.

[C]

I don't know, maybe just keep it to themselves.

[B]

But they can't. You can't do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, I know it's not a bad etiquette. Like, that's not good hunting etiquette, I guess.

[A]

Did you see anything other than a deer?

[B]

Yeah. Because then it's like, if they. If they aren't showing you them and you see them getting the notification, you're gonna start feeling bad. Like, why aren't you showing me those anymore? Yeah.

[A]

You don't want to be the friend that does not get a notification about their notification.

[C]

Yeah, I know. Because that's. Well, that's the thing is, you know, I do appreciate the. The fact that they think that I care, but. But, I mean, it is cool to see some of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

But then when it's like every day or just a little fork comes by and it's like, oh, look at this. Look at this. This thing came by.

[A]

It's like showing you things.

[C]

Still got milk on its lips. Like, why are you showing me this?

[A]

Well, you know, because they'll grow eventually.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

You're a grower, not a shower.

[A]

Yeah. So, you know, I don't know. I mean, look, at this point, you know, they're no longer in your life anymore. And do you still connect with them textually?

[C]

Oh, yeah. I'll still contact them here and there.

[A]

What are you showing me, Miles?

[B]

What's the shit in my beer?

[A]

What's the shit in your beer? Why is there some little black spots in there? Probably just came out of the ceiling, Miles.

[B]

Dripping.

[A]

That's a little roofing right there, is probably what that is. Is it? It just fell out of the sky?

[B]

No. I don't know. It's.

[A]

I'll just drink it. You'll be fine. We're at my cabin, and some black stuff just fell from the ceiling into Miles's beer. And he's concerned about it, but that's fine.

[C]

Oh, it's. It's. It kills cancer. That's probably what it is.

[A]

Cures it.

[C]

Yeah, it cures it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what that is.

[C]

It builds your immune system. It's Charlie's cabin.

[B]

There's.

[D]

There's.

[C]

There's good stuff there, probably.

[A]

Yeah, there is. I got hidden.

[B]

We'll send you some pics.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are your conversations going right now with your co workers?

[C]

Oh, it's going good.

[A]

What do you guys talk about?

[C]

Cool. About kind of anything under the sun. Whether it's something that's up on the prince or some guy that's being a jackass that's in another trade or there's nothing that brings.

[B]

There's nothing that brings a crew together more than talking about how the prince up or saying what. What do they expect me to do? You know, I feel like that gets thrown around a lot. What did they expect me to do here? Why would they do it like this?

[A]

Were these guys not bullshitting about the job site enough for you, or were they like. Did you guys have any other topics of conversation, your. Your dear fellas?

[C]

Oh, yeah. I mean, we would. When I was traveling. Oh, yeah, we would. We. Same thing. We'd bitch about the prince.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

About shit that we had to do or how we had to do something. But wait. Yeah. And on any site you're gonna bitch about the prince.

[A]

Yeah. So. But now you've got the same guys, but just no deer pics. This looks like this is a less positive situation you have right now.

[C]

Well, because it's fishing opener in a week. Why are we talking about deer hunting?

[A]

Fishing opener was this weekend in Wisconsin. And I'll tell you this. My dad, he got a 26 inch walleye. You want to see a pick? Yeah. All right.

[B]

When. As an electrician, do you guys. I always like to ask trades who they like to blame for all their problems. Is it the contractor, the person building it, the architect, or the engineer?

[C]

Engineer, Engineer, Engineer. Every time.

[B]

All right. As an electrician, I want you to let me know how you feel about engineers. Go.

[C]

Well, I guess I'm really not high up enough to really have them piss me off. But I just hear from foreman about how the way that they want done is like, well, you can't do that because there's a code that we need to follow. And they're like, well, we want it done this way. Well, then it's like, well, if you want it done that way, then it won't pass inspection. So you kind of got to pull your head out a little bit and we got to meet in the middle here.

[B]

Communication silos is what you're saying?

[C]

Yeah, is. Yeah, pretty much.

[A]

I like that term. Communications high level.

[B]

So 911 happened.

[A]

Why you and 9 11? This is the second time you brought. Did you just watch a documentary or something?

[B]

I've watched a documentary or two.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I also went to the 911 memorial in New York when I was there in fall. In the fall.

[A]

Oh, yeah. You said it looked pretty clean over there.

[B]

Yeah, they did. They cleaned it up. Took a long time.

[A]

That's Good. That's good. That's real good.

[B]

Yeah. Communication silos between the. The government agencies. They weren't talking to each other, so that's how it happens.

[A]

And now they're fully communicating.

[B]

No, that's. This will never happen.

[A]

Okay. That's sort of a human nature thing I think we're seeing. Doesn't happen in the government. Doesn't happen on the job site.

[C]

Yeah. Just. It's just missing. You know, if communication was just a little bit. A little better team play going on that we're not showing trail cam pics. Maybe if everybody starts showing trail cam

[A]

pics to each other, that's solve the

[B]

construction miscommunications in the world.

[C]

Maybe, maybe I'm just kind of being stingy and I just need to accept the trail cam pics and that's what brings people together. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

The engineers need to be sharing trail cam picks with the electricians and vice versa.

[A]

I will say, though, there is no there there. There sometimes is no greater frust frustration when you're in the middle of doing something and someone's sitting on their phone just scrolling through months and months of pictures trying to find just the right trail.

[C]

Yeah, that's. That's what would happen because you're just.

[A]

You're just waiting. Waiting in purgatory. And then if they finish doing that and while they're. They don't find the picture they're looking for. But then they do show up a much less impressive of walleye or deer. Probably how you saw the doe pick, you know. Well, there's a doe. Hang on.

[D]

There.

[A]

It's coming. When was that? I think it was October. Was it last year?

[B]

I think we should do a sketch on this, Chuck.

[A]

Yeah, let's do it.

[B]

And I'll be just talking about. We're gonna workshop a sketch right here. So I'll start off with me asking you about your trail cam. And then it'll eventually divulge into like every. You'll just find any little crack in the door to sneak in a trail cam pick.

[A]

Yeah. You're talking about.

[B]

Be talking about a funeral. And you'll.

[A]

So, you know, I'm sorry about your uncle the other day. His 12 pointer also passed.

[B]

Let me show you.

[A]

Hang on. Doing the thing where he's just got one eye looking at it, you know? Cause he can focus better that way. Yep, Here it goes. That's my nephew right there. It's his first one. Isn't that nice? Holy smokes. Freaking. Gotta get that. A Boone and Crockett award. Right there. I tell you, some calls it the wrong name. You know, do that. But yeah, that's a good sketch. It's a good idea.

[C]

Yeah, that's good.

[B]

We did. I did a similar video about the guy who always tries to play Wonderwall. He's got a guitar and just shows up and plays Wonderwall.

[A]

Oh, yeah?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Do you know Wonderwall?

[B]

What do you mean? What do you mean, do I know it?

[A]

Were you playing the guitar?

[B]

No, I wasn't.

[A]

Be a lot cooler if you did. You know, you talk about walls. I was over there at the retaining wall fishing. Caught myself two walleye, one perch, four crappies. You would not believe the size here. I got a picture of these crappies.

[B]

Let me show you. It's like. This is actually what it's like. Friends with you.

[A]

Oh, stop it.

[B]

Podcast with you.

[A]

Oh, what that. I have a one track mind. That's what.

[B]

And I'm not saying it's bad. I put up with it.

[A]

I think the problem with me is I have a multi track mind and it's just never the track you want to be on. See, do you see what's happening here? We all have workplace communication issues. Miles and I have our own communication silos and that sucks because we do a podcast together and the whole thing

[B]

is built on communication.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Actually the opening segment to this podcast, Charlie, we started a segment and a thing and. And it halfway through Charlie, it finally clicked what we were talking about.

[A]

I understood the game. I wasn't sure what he was getting at right away. The game of the scene, man. The game. You know, I'm. I'm just, I'm scraping off the rust on the old frying pan. You know, sometimes you gotta just heat it up and get some oil on there and then mess that around, you know?

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Let the, let the rust heat off there, you know?

[B]

The rust heat off of there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Something.

[A]

I don't know, you know, or you get it. You just get it blended with the black. When you put oil on it, you forget it's there to begin with. You really got to get one of those brushes. But anyways, this. That's not here nor there. I see Miles. Miles right now is. Is bellied up to the bar like we're in another communication silo. What are you doing right now?

[C]

I was cutting a piece of pipe with a band saw.

[A]

Oh, nice. Did you. Yeah, that was pretty good. You didn't put us on mute or anything?

[B]

No.

[A]

Appreciate that. Wasn't too loud either.

[C]

No, no, it's pretty. It's Pretty quiet here. I tried to keep it away from the mic so that you wouldn't be able to, you know, it wouldn't be too super loud for you.

[A]

It would suck if you, like, lost a finger trying to keep it away from.

[B]

And you can always tell on these podcasts, these calls, when. When it's time to let them go.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Because we get a lot of people calling in from work, and it's the second that they start going back to work. Yeah. It means that this is no longer the. The PO that they called in for and they're ready to go.

[A]

Right. And it's like, if that's how they feel, being a big enough of a fan to call in, someone's driving in

[B]

their car, and they. They turned on. They turned on the regular radio at this point.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we probably need to let them go.

[A]

All right, well, hey, this was really wonderful of you.

[C]

Oh, you guys thought a lot.

[A]

Yeah. Well, you don't need to make us feel better. Just. Just make sure that the next time you see a deer pick, just take it in, because this is a. It's a.

[B]

Treat it as a game. How things can you say to someone when they show you a deer pick?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I like that. I'm gonna try that. And just really go off for, like, five minutes about just the one picture. And as they try to go to another photo, go back to take their phone away from them and scroll back to it and just look at that deer for five minutes at a time.

[B]

You could troll them a little bit, ask them if they got any pictures of his nuts. Just, you know, I'd like to get a peep at those nuts of his, too.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. Get really weird with it.

[A]

I like it. I like it a lot.

[B]

Well, dude, we appreciate calling in. Good luck building the new Border states building. And have a good one, man.

[C]

Yeah, you guys, too. Have a good one.

[A]

All right. Bye bye now. He fired it up at the end there. Well, I do think that's a good sketch, Miles. We should do that for sure. My uncle does that all the time. He goes, so you want to see something? I'm like, shit. Because the problem isn't that I'm going to see it. The problem is the time of the scroll. He's just scrolling through so much. And the worst part is if you take a peek yourself and you see. Never peek while someone's scrolling. You're going to see some photos he sent to his doctor about the peyronies. And you never knew some things would bend like that. But, you know.

[B]

All right, should we do another caller?

[A]

Sure. All right, Miles, I'll tell you what, man. These shady rays are just the sunglasses

[B]

of the future, you know, like you're from the future.

[A]

I mean, look at these things. This. I could. I could bike so fast in these glasses.

[B]

You also, with your. Your utility vehicle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That doesn't have a windshield.

[A]

Oh, you're right.

[B]

Suckers are perfect for that. We could have used those yesterday.

[A]

Personal. I mean, this won't help the bugs up the nose, but definitely the bugs in the eye. And I'll tell you this. Breathing incapabilities on a utv, that's fine, but seeing in capabilities, that's problematic. No branches are going to strike my eyeballs with these suckers on. And shady rays, Miles, they've got a special going right now for this podcast, I believe, don't they? Don't we have a promo code? And they get some up and you

[B]

get 40% off two or more polarized glasses, sunglasses.

[A]

And you can see fish much better with the polarized. If you are looking to see where that small is lurking right there, you want those polarized. I used to call them pulverized, Miles. And I learned that's not how you say it. But polarized sunglasses, you can see perch, too, if they're closer to the surface. But anyways, there you have it. Code bellied up. Get yourself some shady rays.

[B]

The first real warm weekend has hit, and everybody's losing their mind. I mean, you had people. It started getting nice out here, and all of a sudden you had neighbors showing up before we did this. Yeah, people just are losing their mind. You got people running all over the place.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Shorts come out. People are driving with the windows down, blasting music like it's the 4th of July, looking for morel mushrooms, rooms. Yeah, but here's the thing, Chuck. Roads are still beat up. People are rusty behind the wheel, and everyone's just a little too excited.

[A]

Some people's wheels are rusty, too, Miles.

[B]

Someone's speeding, someone's not paying attention.

[D]

Boom.

[A]

Watch where you're going.

[B]

Get the tr. And accidents come out of nowhere.

[A]

I pulled my treble clef.

[B]

Or maybe, Charlie, you're out walking, biking, or doing whatever in your woods.

[A]

In the trip on a.

[B]

Not in your woods, but you trip on a cracked sidewalk or an uneven curb that never got fixed after winter. If that's the If. If that first taste of summer turns into an injury, you got to call Nicolet Law. That's who you want handling it, Miles. If not, you know, I don't want you handling.

[A]

If you injure yourself on my property, would you call Nicola against me before

[B]

I even hit the ground?

[A]

Nice, nice. Good to know where you stand here, miles. Stand on some sturdy because I can't afford it. All right, folks, there you have it. Give, give Mr. Russell a call. 1-855- Nicolay- Nicolae-Law Denise. How we doing?

[D]

I'm good. It's denit though, with a t at the end.

[A]

Oh yeah, I was about to do use my done nephew jo. You know, the neat.

[B]

The neat I've never heard. I've never met a denit.

[D]

It's a jewish name.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

All right, well, thank you for calling in. So denit, belly on up to this bar. What's on your mind here?

[D]

Well, so I called in because my friend went on a date with a guy she met. He was bartending at the bar. She was with a friend and he asked her out and they went on this date and at the end of the day she did like a do you want to split the check? You know, as a common courtesy kind of thing. And he immediately said yes. And they split the check. And it was a very big topic of conversation in the office. We worked together and a lot of us said, oh, that's a red flag. You know, like definitely no second date with this guy. That was mostly the girls but actually a lot of the guys were like, well, you shouldn't have offered if you didn't want to pay. So I wanted to see what you guys think about it.

[A]

What a great question, miles. Is it appropriate on a first date to split the check if it's offered by the gal?

[B]

I just think in today's world rules are different.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know.

[A]

So you're saying yes.

[B]

I mean, I would. I would just for me, I would just pay.

[A]

Uhhuh. But you're not going to judge a guy for not paying.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know if I'm judging a guy or not.

[D]

You know, that's what a lot of the. The guys said is that I'm not going to do it. But if she offered then we shouldn't like be hard on him. But I still disagree.

[A]

What, what, what do you think?

[D]

Well, I think that he should have paid. I think like I a one time. Do you want to split is is a no. Right. It's like a common courtesy. Like if she insisted and was like, no, no, please, like let's split it up then. Like that's fine, you know, split it. But if it's just a one. One Thing. Then he's supposed to be like, oh, no, I got it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But you also, in his mind, you know, you don't know what they talked about. Maybe she was giving signals that, you know, she likes to be an independent woman.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And she doesn't like to be the classic, the guy needs to do stuff for me. Maybe she was giving off signals that, hey, I don't like it when guys try and do the traditional masculine role. I like it to be more split.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And then he was trying to navigate that scenario.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I didn't think about it that way, Miles, but that it is a different world we're living in denit. Wouldn't you say?

[D]

Yeah, well, actually, here's what I found out. There's. There's a little twist in the story. So we were talking about it later, later. And she said that she had made the reservation. So I was like, oh, hold on. All right, now this complicates things because you're like, okay, if he asked you out, he should have paid, but why are you making the reservation? Like, that's on her. So that did change my mind a little bit, but more about the fact that it's more of a red flag that the guy didn't make the reservation if he's the one who asked her out.

[B]

Are they still together?

[D]

No, no, no. They never went on a second date.

[A]

Well, did they. Did they make out?

[D]

I don't think they made out. From what I understand, he offered to, like, walk her to the metro station after. And then when he found out that it's like, 15 minutes out of his way, he was like, oh, take an uber instead. And then that's kind of where that ended.

[A]

Okay, so three strikes and you're out. All right.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[B]

I mean, that's also a good. Like, let's say halfway through the date, he's like, I'm not feeling this. It's a very good, subtle, passive aggressive way to say that I don't want to go on another date is by splitting the check.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

And then offering to walk her home and then finding out how far it is and being like, yeah, maybe not. You know, instead of. Instead of it being like, hey, do you want to go on another date? And he has to say, no. He just did the work at the date.

[A]

Yeah, she should be thanking him that she doesn't have to waste any more of her time, I guess, with this game guy, you know?

[D]

Yeah, I guess that's fair enough. She said the only benefit about him that he was 6 foot, 3 inches tall. And she's pretty tall. So he's like, that was the only good thing, but the date was pretty bad.

[A]

She's six foot. She's six foot.

[D]

He's six, three. She's like, five, ten.

[A]

Okay. So she really wants that tall guy.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. See, and tall guys, they just get away with stuff because they. They were built with more inches, you know, vertically. And.

[B]

And you just say that. That's the thing with tall guys is they're built with more inches vertically.

[A]

Yeah, man. Yeah. When you think about it, that's exactly the thing.

[B]

I mean, that is what. What makes them tall. Yes.

[A]

Yeah. And.

[B]

And I think that that just goes without saying.

[A]

Well, sometimes it needs to be said, Miles, and I'm the guy to say the things that people won't say.

[B]

So. What a wild take by you.

[A]

Huge wild take.

[B]

Now, she found love since.

[D]

No, she. She's used to looking, but she's. She's young. She's like, 23, so she'll be fine.

[A]

Oh, 23. Oh, and how old was the guy?

[D]

I think he was around the same age.

[A]

Yeah, the young bucks, they don't know all the stuff. You know, they. They're.

[B]

They're really online, you know? Yeah.

[A]

They're getting. They're anxious to get back to their video games and other things that people do. I don't. Don't. What else? How old are you, Denit, if I can ask? You're 26. You're also a young buck. Okay. Young doe.

[B]

Young doe.

[D]

Yeah. Not a buck.

[A]

Yeah. Well, you got buck energy, Denise. I'm gonna tell you that right now.

[D]

The other question I have for you. What would be the maximum or amount of, like, money that the bill was for you guys to, like, agree with him versus agree with her?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, if she's ordering sides and hors d' oeuvres and, you know, like, it's a. Gets a side salad, but upcharges it with the chicken on top. You know, like a Caesar salad with chicken. I ordered dessert, but she's like, I can't decide between these two desserts. Let's get two. Let's get both.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like. Like. Or if she wants to split, like, you know, you go out to date for someone, and there you, like. Like, she can't decide between two, and you're like, well, do you want it? Let's split it. You know? And then, like, she's eating your fries, and she wants to split It. And then when the bill comes, you'd be like, let's split it. You know, that's only fair.

[B]

I think what's funny, what I just thought of as a good, good life hack for gals is go on a date, order like the 46 ounce tomahawk steak, knowing you're gonna eat like a third of it and then have leftovers. So then basically you get them to pay for three meals instead of one.

[A]

Oh, is smart.

[D]

There you go.

[A]

But you're, you're rolling the dice on if this guy's actually gonna pay for it, you know, because you might have to pay for it.

[D]

You gotta pay.

[A]

I don't, I don't know if it's a pricing. I, I went out with a gal once and she got a dry rub steak, or what are they called, the dry aged steak.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And she got it well done. And the waiter looked at me and I was like, I don't. That says, I said that. That's mp. I tried to give him the sign like, please do not not give me an MP stake. I, I think if they're getting mp, you know, then, then you know, it's really got to go well because you don't know what the market price on this stuff is. And, and you know it. They're adding a lot on to the market price.

[B]

Like a first date with this gal.

[A]

First date.

[B]

The waiter's looking at you like you need to get it right. And you're looking at him like, hey, I just, like just. I'm learning this with you.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Hey, I don't know. You got any advice for me here?

[A]

I, I think if it. Yeah, it's kind of like if you're gonna get it well done, you might as well just get any other. Get a flank steak. I was trying to mouth flank blank, but it didn't work. And I paid for it. I paid for all of it.

[D]

How much was it?

[A]

I want to say it was probably around a $200 bill. Yeah, I know, I know. $200. 200 smackers, you guys. And you guys make out. Miles, I'm not one to kiss and tell.

[B]

Okay, well, you asked her.

[A]

Are you kidding? That's because I was bored, you know.

[D]

Well, this check was $60.

[A]

It was what?

[D]

It was $60. It was not expensive meal.

[B]

Yeah, but the rent these days.

[A]

Rent?

[B]

Yeah, you put yourself in a 23 year old shoe. I mean, they're paying three grand for rent.

[D]

Three grand.

[A]

Three grand per month. But if you multiply that three times, one is three three times two is six. That's 36, 000 a year, which is nuts. I was just doing touch math there.

[B]

So you make 50 grand a year?

[A]

50 grand a year, yeah. Now, Denit, are you in a relationship yourself, did you say?

[D]

Yeah, I'm married.

[A]

You're married? How long you been married? Married

[D]

three years.

[A]

And how's it going?

[D]

It's going pretty good. Good so far. No complaints.

[A]

What did your husband say? Because I know you brought this up.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he agreed with the men. He said. He said she shouldn't have offered if she didn't pay. And then he texted some of his friends who have girlfriends slash wives, and they all agreed with him. So the wives and the girlfriends also agreed. Agreed that she shouldn't have offered, which I thought was pretty shocking.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, my. I feel like my stance is like. I don't think he's scum of the earth for her asking. Split the check and then he does. I do think I. I'm under the belief that he should have just paid regardless. It's like, I feel like if you're a guy going on a date with a gal, you just need to accept the fact that you're probably paying for the check.

[A]

Yep. I would agree. I don't remember if I've ever. On a first date. I mean, I've never split a check on the first date. I'm gonna say that.

[B]

Miles, I don't think I've ever split the check ever.

[A]

Oh, okay. Someone's better than me, you know, that's fine. I've split a check before. There's nothing wrong with that, Miles.

[B]

No, I didn't say it was anywhere. I just said I've never done that.

[A]

Well, college.

[D]

Yeah, I think the first date is the issue. I was gonna say to her, like, if you. If he wanted to go on a second date, he could have been like, oh, I'll get it. You get it next time. Or we'll split it next time. That's like an opening for the second date.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's like you're golfing with your buddies, you know, and one guy buys a round and you have to tell him that you'll buy the next round whether

[A]

you do or not. Yeah, well, what else is your.

[B]

Where do you guys work at? Is this a co worker?

[D]

Yeah, she's my co worker. We. We work in sales. Media sales. And so that's another thing. Right. So we work in sales. She's like, pretty new, so she doesn't make like a Lot of money. But this guy, she met him when he was bartending at a bar and I think he works some kind of like a lobbyist job, like for his full time job. So I'm assuming he's not making a lot of money. So that's I guess another like point to consider there.

[A]

Wait, he's a lobbyist?

[B]

Where do you guys live?

[D]

We're in the D.C. area.

[B]

Okay, interesting. I mean, that makes a little more sense. I feel like if you're lobbying for a job, you know, he's.

[A]

Some lobbyists make a. He must be lobbying for like an employment.

[B]

Just like the type of guy who's a lobbyist is probably also going to split the check.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

I don't know why that, that makes sense to me, but it just does.

[D]

No, it does. It does make sense.

[A]

They know their, their angle. That's a, that's a bold move to not even walk with her to the. He must have just not been into it. What other issues has she run into? Dating?

[D]

She says that she's never met a guy who's funnier than her. Oh, that's one thing. I don't know if that's like a. More of a. He's really confident in her sense of humor.

[A]

Okay, let me ask. Is she funny?

[D]

She is pretty funny. She's, she's has a lot of like, she's good comedic timing and she says some unhinged.

[B]

Yeah, here's the thing. The way that relationships work is you can't have two people, one upping each other. Funny wise. You need the funny guy, the funny gal, and then the audience, you know, Otherwise it's not gonna work.

[A]

She needs a good laugher, probably an authentic laugher. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Well, she doesn't need a guy who's funnier than her. She needs a guy that thinks she's really funny. That's what she's looking.

[A]

What, what kind of unhinged things has she said? Do you remember any of them?

[D]

Oh boy. Let's see. I think one time she said something like, oh, what do you do when you see a guy in crutches and like he's trying to open the door? She goes, oh, you kick his crutches down.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

That kind of, that kind of humor.

[B]

It just seems like you got to put a dollar in the mean jar. That doesn't even seem like a joke. That just seems like down, downright anger and mean.

[A]

Yeah, maybe she, maybe we should say she's the problem. I'm absolutely going to say she's a problem if that's.

[B]

She probably insulted him a bunch and she was like, do you want to split the check? He's like, yeah, total bitch right now. Why would I pay for your part of the check?

[A]

I would love to get her.

[B]

You said that if you were pushing a guy in a wheelchair, you just roll him down a hill. Would I pay for your half of the check?

[A]

Yeah. I think your friends got a little bit to, you know, account atoned for with this whole situation. If that's one of her jokes, is so she's 5, 10. She thinks she's very funny and you think she's funny and she's also mean.

[D]

I think she's funny and it's like, she's mean funny.

[A]

Ah, okay.

[D]

Maybe some people don't find that funny. Well, let me ask why the guy didn't like her.

[A]

Has she ever been mean to you and you found it funny?

[D]

All the time. She's mean to me all the time.

[A]

What did she say about you?

[D]

I made her cookies and I was like making a story on Instagram for her birthday and I was like, oh, I made these cookies for my friend. Let's call her, I don't know, Amanda. And then she commented. She goes, I call you more of a colleague than a friend.

[B]

Okay, I like. That's better.

[A]

That's good. Yeah. It's like, if you understand that that's her game. The game she play. Plays. That's kind of funny.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Hasn't met a funnier guy. Have her go try to DM some comedians or something.

[D]

Do you have any suggestions? Any suggested comedian?

[A]

No, no, I do not. But whoever she thinks is funny, just DM them and see what they say. She wants a.

[D]

You have like a. A joke that she can tell them, like, give me something.

[B]

She's the funny one.

[A]

She's funnier than anyone she's ever met.

[D]

Are funny too.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, not as fun.

[B]

Well, she's not as funny as her.

[A]

You know what she should do? She should roast. She should roast. Write the comedian a roast of them. Yeah, a little roast line. Yeah, there's someone. Some. But though I'm going to be honest with you, whatever comedian she attracts, it's going to.

[B]

I will have to say comedians and people in the comedy field do, like a good roast.

[A]

They do. They respect it.

[B]

Like, so we'll. We'll get stuff sent to our office once in a while of, like, fans sending us their stuff. And it's awesome. But there's one that sticks out in my mind that I Especially love, because they sent a message with no product. And basically the letter that they sent just insulted me the whole time. And at the end, he invited me to buy their product. I was like, this is the way to get my attention here. Not only did you insult me, you also said that I gotta pay for the product.

[A]

How many of those insults do you still think about at 12:30 at night when you're trying to fall asleep?

[B]

That's why I couldn't fall asleep last night.

[A]

Oh, no, no. Sad.

[B]

What? Why? Have you tried to set her up with anyone?

[D]

I actually have. I, like try. I showed her this guy that is friends with my husband and she was like, oh, he looks like he's got a great personality. So she was not interested in that one, which was pretty. I was pretty annoyed. I was like, no, he's a really, like, he's fun, he's funny, and he's got good head on the shoulders. But she was not interested.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, she's still 23. She's not in the I'm ready to settle stage, you know?

[D]

Yeah, she's got time.

[A]

She's looking for tall, hot and funny or.

[D]

I don't. You know what, that's the thing. I don't know if she's actually looking for someone who's funnier than her. She's just said she's never met one.

[A]

Ah, okay. Got it.

[D]

So maybe that would like. But maybe that would bring her confidence down if he was funnier. So maybe he shouldn't be funnier.

[A]

Yeah, I'm getting a sense of that. So a guy.

[B]

Are you at work right now?

[D]

I'm working from home, but I did have to tell my boss to cut our one on one early because of this.

[A]

Oh, we're costing you hours right now?

[D]

Yeah, well, he's a fan. He's from Wisconsin, so.

[A]

Oh, no way. What's his name?

[D]

John, actually. You've met him before. Charlie.

[A]

Charlie, John.

[B]

You remember John.

[A]

Yeah, John. Of course.

[B]

You've only met a few johns in your life.

[A]

Yeah. Remind me, where did I meet him?

[B]

Oh, it's. Oh, no, it's John from Wisconsin who works in sales.

[D]

You met him. You were doing like a sponsored ad for a company that he used to work for and you went to his house.

[A]

Apparently I went to his house.

[D]

I have it on video. I'll send it to you. You after.

[B]

Whoa.

[D]

It's on YouTube. On your YouTube.

[A]

What company?

[D]

It was a food delivery company in the Midwest. I don't know, maybe we're not around anymore.

[A]

Oh, Grub. Oh, no. Eat street. Back in the day. Oh, did he have a patio?

[B]

Oh, John with the patio.

[A]

Johnny patio. I tell him I say hello. Out of Madison, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

Yeah, I remember John. You. You ask him for me, how. How the family's doing, would you.

[D]

He's got two cats. I think that's it.

[A]

Well, he's got his. His folks and whatnot, you know. Yeah, yeah. Rest in peace. I don't know if it's around any more. Each street.

[B]

So you sunk it into the ground, advertising?

[A]

Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah.

[D]

Maybe the ad didn't work so well.

[A]

No, it didn't. Of course not.

[B]

No. What you got to say is that they. They were able to last a little bit longer because of your ads.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Already a sinking ship, and you just. You prolonged it.

[A]

Well, that's cool. And where are you working? You're in DC and she's in DC and. Okay, fellas. In dc. Dc. That's a tough place to find love. It's not a truth out there, you know, everyone's kind of got an angle. I lived there for a few months. Miles.

[B]

What were you doing there?

[D]

What, did you run for president?

[A]

No. God, no. I was. I was a reporter for a little bit there. Yeah. Yeah. That's part.

[B]

That was a good market to get into a reporter in D.C. that was

[A]

one place where they said my accent did not permit me to do voiceovers. That was one of the jobs. One of three jobs that told me that. So that was sort of the beginnings of it. Yeah. And I used to. I lived in South Carolina and worked in D.C. because I needed two jobs. I used to sleep in that Holiday Inn parking lot there. That was where that joke came from. So a little history about Charlie. Not that anyone asked, but, Yeah, I remember D.C. so, anyways. Okay, well, what. What, your friends looking for a. A tall guy who's got a.

[B]

Who may or may not be funnier than her?

[D]

Yeah, a tall guy who, like, enjoys being roasted, like you said, or, like, enjoys being made fun of.

[A]

He's kind of. That's kind of a kink, isn't it?

[B]

He needs to, like, to get slapped around a little bit.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So is she physically. She.

[C]

What?

[B]

The kids call it physically, too. Maybe that's. You never know. What do you say, Chuck?

[A]

I think the kids call it a day. Dom. A dominant.

[B]

She's a dominatrix.

[D]

He would be a dominant.

[A]

Yeah, she is dominant.

[B]

She needs a subm.

[A]

I didn't say sexual. No, I'm just saying huge shout out

[B]

to Our submissive male audience out there, this is your time to shine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Amanda. Is that what her name was?

[D]

It's not her real name I want to keep. I don't know. What if the guy sees it and he's like, hey, why you tell the whole world about our day?

[B]

Well, maybe you should have paid for the check and he wouldn't be in this scenario. Scenario.

[D]

You know What? Good lesson.

[A]

$60 too, huh? Hey, you know what? 23 years old. I mean, come on, that's a. That's a lot of money. You know, it. It just is. I. 23 years old, I was taking my clothes off for money. And that's a true story.

[B]

Is actually true.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

But then, then the question is like, do you ask someone on a date date if you can't pay for it?

[A]

Well, I'm trying to, yeah. I would do a lot of free dates. I would be picking that restaurant, though. I would be like, you know, I like going hiking. I was a big hiker.

[D]

Coffee?

[A]

Yeah, coffee is a good way to start it off. This is a good PSA for a first date. Start with a coffee or a solitary cocktail. Don't commit to a full time dinner, you know, There you go. Yeah. Make sure you guys like each other. Have dinner is an option, you know, but yeah, it's like you sit down,

[B]

maybe having a drink, it's going well. You're like, you know what? I really like you. I got this reservation. Let's go eat.

[A]

Yeah. Nice surprise.

[B]

Little holding tank in the bar area until. Until you're ready to commit.

[A]

Did they Did. Was she a patron at the bar? You said that's how they met.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah, I like that, though. I like that they, you know, I

[B]

like that people are still meeting in a bar.

[A]

That's. That's good for business. It's good for us, you know, we got to keep the bar business. And despite the fact we're shooting this in my cabin right now in the

[B]

kitchen, we're still bellied up to a bar, though.

[A]

We are bellied up to a bar. We're gonna be at a bar tomorrow, so. But anyways, well, we wish we wish your Amanda quote unquote luck and hope she finds, you know, the. The submissive tall man she's looking for.

[D]

There you go. I'll tell her to put that in her in, like, requirements, submissive call men.

[B]

Because I imagine a submissive guy is going to want a gal to be forward enough to say she's looking for a submissive guy.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, you're like wow, why would you put that in your bio? And it's like cuz I'm trying to attract submissive guys. Guys, you know.

[A]

And I'm getting the sense she's also not very serious.

[D]

Yeah, no.

[A]

Wow, then it's no harm, no foul then it just gave her some to chitchat with her friends about when she was bored at work.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

That's great. Good, good for you guys.

[B]

What was your one on one meeting about?

[D]

Oh, this is with my boss. Yeah, you know, like my sales, like my pipeline. How many meetings I've had this week.

[B]

How's that going?

[D]

It's going good. We're doing good.

[A]

Hey, get back on the clock, you know, sell us it.

[B]

Yeah, okay. What do you sell? And we'll see if Chuck and I are buying.

[D]

Well, I sell like ads for like businesses who want to reach other businesses. So I don't know where you guys.

[B]

We have a business that require that includes us working with other businesses that pay us to put ads in there.

[A]

Yeah, get us some. Some maybe.

[B]

I see what you're doing here though. You're making us sell you. You see what she's doing?

[A]

Oh, she's good at her job.

[B]

We're not the right one for you.

[D]

You.

[B]

Yeah, we are. Get. We're gonna give you our money. That's. That's a great tactic.

[D]

So what's Nicolay Law as your main sponsor? Right. Like I feel like you've got it good. You don't need any anymore.

[A]

Look at her not selling us now we want it more.

[B]

I want to be sold harder.

[A]

Who's in your, who's another business in your clientele that would want to be on our. A sponsor on our podcast, huh?

[D]

Boy, I don't know. I, I felt like financial services. I don't.

[A]

Well you don't think we make money

[B]

and also you don't think that we could use a financial services sponsorship because we, we, we need help with that.

[A]

We have a lot of young professionals that and old professionals.

[B]

We thought we're selling her again.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Shoot. I forget. Okay, what's the name of your company? Just give them free advertising.

[B]

Miles, she is good.

[D]

I don't know.

[A]

This is the not sell.

[D]

If you are a marketer who wants to reach businesses all up.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[D]

My CEO is going to be very happy with me.

[A]

How many calls have you put in today?

[D]

Today? Today I didn't have any calls. Tomorrow I have a few calls.

[B]

Jesus Christ. You gotta pick up the phone and start dialing cold calls.

[A]

You ever cold call that's not a problem.

[D]

Like a meeting. Cold calls is like just a routine thing.

[A]

Give us.

[C]

Call up.

[A]

Just give us your pitch.

[B]

Hello? Who's this? This, this. This call seems to be pretty cold. Who is this?

[D]

Hey, Miles, this is Denit calling. Do you have 30 seconds to chat?

[B]

Yeah, I mean, me and my husband Chuck are just in the kitchen right now. We're making some. Some creme brulee.

[A]

And. And it would be good if you could help.

[B]

Yeah, Chuck, there's a. There's a nice young gal that wants to chat with us. Is that all right?

[A]

Sure. Hel. Hi.

[D]

Yeah, well, you know, I. I saw you guys were trying to get some sponsors for your show, and, you know, I have a. Yeah, I have an audience of about, you know, 100,000 marketers that would love to work with you guys.

[B]

You have, you know, a hundred thousand people, you know, 100,000 businesses.

[A]

Name 1,000 of.

[D]

Name five. Well, you know a Nicolay Law, He's a subscriber.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Is he really? Wow, Russell.

[D]

You know, just. Just companies like, you know, Shopify, you can, you know, they do some. Some ads on podcasts. I'm sure they'll be happy to collaborate with you, but, you know.

[B]

Yeah, we get our. We get our. We get our lotion from a company that sells on Shopify. That could be good.

[A]

Lotion.

[B]

Yeah, our lotion. Married couple and lotion together. Oh, yeah, you know that.

[A]

Yeah. Facial lotion.

[B]

Yes. Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

That's how we get your pores looking so cute.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, they are nice.

[B]

You got cute pores.

[A]

You are so. Isn't he sweet? You know, the first date we went on, he split the bill.

[B]

Don't tell this story. Oh, God. Embarrassing me.

[A]

He asked me out. I'm way funnier than he is.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And he made me walk. You wouldn't believe it. Five miles to my train stop. He actually made me take an Uber because he won't walk with me. He did not pay for the Uber. He ordered it.

[B]

Okay, but the whole time, all he did was talk about his trail cam pics. You know, I didn't think it was going anywhere.

[A]

Well, I thought you wanted to see how a buck could rut.

[D]

Well, listen, I. I'd love to show you some examples of. Of how, you know, our sponsors would fit in with the podcast. So why don't we, you know, we hop on a call.

[B]

No, we're on a call right now.

[A]

Let's do it on a call.

[B]

Show us some examples.

[A]

Let's.

[B]

Better yet, I'm Just. I'm just crisping up the top of our creme brulee here.

[A]

Why don't we meet tomorrow night? I know a great place that makes a dry rub steak.

[D]

Take market price only.

[A]

I like it well done. Hello? Hello?

[D]

Yeah, I'm just shocked by the. The well done statement.

[B]

You gotta stop telling people that. Well, I.

[D]

If that's really embarrassing, I'm.

[A]

I'm sorry, did you just. Did you say that's him? Are you being mean? You are a mean girl.

[D]

I'm just. I think it's like a. It's a. It's a disservice to the. How like you. You might as well have just like,

[A]

you know, I like it. I like it how I like it.

[D]

Oh, there you go.

[A]

Are you telling me I should have just gotten a flank steak well done?

[D]

Yeah, maybe so.

[B]

I don't like how you're talking to my husband right now, but I. I just. I think that we should.

[A]

We.

[B]

What company are you from? Did you say?

[D]

It doesn't matter.

[B]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[D]

Well, anyway, I'd like to get your

[B]

manager on the phone.

[D]

Yeah, his name is John. He lives in Wisconsin.

[B]

Oh, he sounds like a great guy.

[A]

Madison John with two cats.

[D]

Yeah. Two cats. Yep.

[B]

Who's this guy? Why do you know so much about this John?

[A]

John, my boyfriend. My brother in law. You know, you never want to hang out with my family and it really shows.

[B]

There's so many of you.

[A]

There's not that many.

[B]

I can't keep their names straight.

[A]

John, got you a Christmas present. Present.

[B]

You have two sisters with the same name?

[A]

They. We call one Ellie and the other Mary Kate.

[B]

And what are their real names?

[A]

Mary Ellen and Mary Kate. Yes.

[B]

There two sisters named Mary.

[A]

Mary is the holy mother. Okay. We're catholic. And this marriage was really hard to get through the family on the 1st.

[B]

You wouldn't believe the amount of. What is it called? The.

[A]

The mental gymnastics before you get married.

[B]

The meetings you got to do with the priests. Oh, yeah, yeah. The amount of those we had to do.

[A]

It was easy. I just found a priest.

[B]

Luckily we have a decent amount of money that we were able to donate to the church to be able to get it done.

[A]

You know, dry rubs don't pay for themselves. The reason he bought me a dry rub on the first time is because. Cuz he said a dry rub for a dry rub.

[D]

Oh God.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, we.

[B]

We had to tell the priest about that one session.

[D]

Yeah, I don't know how they would have liked that there.

[A]

In the Catholic church they Are okay with it. They just don't ask, don't tell.

[B]

So anyways, why did you call us again?

[D]

The date. The date question.

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, we're still in character.

[D]

I was in character. I thought we were out of up there.

[A]

Denita, it's been a pleasure talking to you. It really has. Really has.

[B]

Have you ever had a sales call go like that, or.

[D]

No, not quite like this. No, not with the dry rub. For a dry rub, but pretty close.

[B]

Well, what's pretty close to that?

[D]

My colleagues. One of my colleagues had her client, like, pull his feet up on the screen at some point.

[B]

Oh, on.

[A]

On Fox. Like, bare feet.

[D]

Bare feet just out there.

[A]

What? Why is she. I mean, have she seen a foot before?

[D]

I don't. I don't know. But I think he. He bought from her with 25k after. So, like, maybe. That's such a big man.

[A]

What if that's his thing? Just showing unsolicited toe picks, cuticle shots.

[D]

It's like, live on the call.

[A]

I know it's on.

[D]

It's. Recording started.

[A]

It's interesting. Do you have a foot fetish, Miles? No. Anyways, well, so foot picks. Nothing weirder than footpix Foot vids.

[D]

No. Oh, some. Okay. One of my colleagues said a guy on his call said, oh, like, Chris is gonna cream his pants when he sees this.

[B]

See, at our company, we elect to say cream your khakis, and instead,

[A]

a little more specific.

[B]

It's al. Well, it's more specific and it's more professional. You know, it's not just, we're not wearing sweatpants. We're wearing khakis. Biz cash.

[D]

Better if it's.

[A]

It's got the alliteration too. Like, cream your khakis. You know, the creaming your pants is just kind of harsh. It's gross. But cream your khakis. You're like, okay, hey.

[B]

Because then you can me cream and cacs.

[A]

You know, Cream and cacs.

[B]

Shorten it up.

[A]

That guy. That was so good. I creamed my cacs. I mean, that's just fun, you know?

[B]

You know, See my case, you got stuff like that.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

But he did not end up buying, so I think it's feet over. Over that.

[A]

Oh, I thought he. I thought you say he bought 25k.

[B]

That was a foot guy.

[D]

No, the foot. The foot guy.

[A]

The khaki creamer.

[D]

He didn't buy creamer. Did not buy anything.

[A]

It's a little harsh, you know?

[B]

Well, that sound like Derek didn't cream his khakis quite like he thought it would. And they didn't end up buying.

[D]

Yeah, it happened there.

[A]

Also tell you this. This call took a few spins. I didn't expect spinning Denise. So that's testament to you and your mean friend.

[D]

Yep. Love her.

[A]

We do, too.

[B]

Well, we appreciate calling in today.

[D]

Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

[B]

Good luck out there.

[A]

Tell your husband we says hi.

[D]

I'll tell him. He says hi. Thank you.

[A]

And John.

[D]

Oh, for sure. I'll tell John right now.

[B]

Good deal.

[A]

All right.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Bye. Bye now. Yeah, Miles, dating's tough.

[B]

I actually feel like we're pretty good at role playing as husbands. We know enough about each other, we can make it happen.

[A]

Absolutely. I know you're a back sleeper.

[B]

You know, zero G. We got the split king.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I know that you. You need extra lotion for your hands because you got cracked hands.

[A]

Cracked hands.

[B]

They're getting better, suckers.

[A]

They're getting better. That's all right. That's all right, Miles. The old graspers. They're okay. They're okay. Yeah. See? Grasp that khaki right there, that brunt khaki. Those are nice. Hey, folks, it's been another pleasure having you belly up to this. Belly up to my cabin with us. And wherever you were driving, if you were at the gym, pumping, if you were, you know, getting turned on, a little bellied up because you were getting intimate with your partner. We're just happy you did okay. And make sure you watch for deer out there.

[B]

And Miles and the tip your bartender.

[A]

Yeah. And change your air filter, folks. Make sure you change your air filter.

[B]

Yeah, change your air filter. We'll see you next one.

[A]

All right. Bye. Bye.

[C]

Okay. Hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now.