Our First Ever Bellied Up BEEF #201

Summary

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Bellied Up – "Our First Ever Bellied Up BEEF" (#201) – May 21, 2026

Hosts: Charlie Berens & Myles the You Betcha Guy

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Episode Overview

This episode of Bellied Up is a classic blend of small-town Midwest humor, deep chats, and the debut of a new twist: the Bellied Up "Beef." Hosts Charlie and Myles kick things off by playing the relationship card game "We're Not Really Strangers," using the prompts both to dig into each other's psyches and to mess with each other for comedic effect. They then take live callers—most notably, a returning character named Josh, who comes bearing personal updates and a bit of beef with another past caller. The episode is filled with real Midwest vulnerability, playful ribbing, heartfelt moments, and vivid storytelling, all shared over the timeless comfort of belly-up bar banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Changing Up the Classic Opening

• [00:00–00:50]
  • Charlie recounts feedback from his dad, who noticed that every episode starts with "Welcome back."
  • They experiment with alternative intros and jokingly narrate their classic dynamic.

2. Unboxing and Playing "We're Not Really Strangers"

• [01:04–14:00]

  • The pair begin unboxing and playing the game, riffing on how it's commonly used for "trouble" (i.e., awkward or deep conversations on dates).

• Sample exchanges:

  • Charlie (on the game): "This card game is just made to get you in trouble, you know?" [01:40]
  • The guys navigate serious prompts—"Have you ever told someone I love you but didn’t mean it?" opens up jokes about the nature of honesty.

• Notable exchange:

  • Myles (re: personalities): "I would say that I thunder and lightning. I am the rougher grid of sandpaper, and you're the finer grid of sandpaper." [05:11]
  • Charlie tells bowling and sandpaper stories, then muses about his dad's pride and the pressures of calling.

• They cycle through prompts, alternating between sincerity and humor, always returning to the Midwest sensibility. The game also plants questions they’ll later sneak into listener calls.

3. Sing-Alongs and Observational Humor

• [09:01]
  • Wild card: Both sing the chorus of "On Eagle’s Wings."
  • Charlie (singing): "And I will raise you up on eagle’s wings, make you to shine like the sun..." [09:01]
• Observational jokes about their own upbringings, fears, and things like Midwest dads.

4. Heartfelt and Funny Reflections

• [11:12–14:00]
  • Realizations about their dynamic ("You must have the 'you' pile!") and dad stories.
  • Charlie (on his father’s pride): "Well, that’s already true. Miles, come on. No, I’m kidding. He’s—I think he’s proud." [08:33]

5. First Caller: Josh’s Bellied Up-dating Update & Listener Beef

• [17:53–56:30]

  • Josh, a legendary live show participant, calls in to recount his failed attempts at romance, culminating in a very personal story about his first date in three years—and ultimately losing his virginity.

  • The hosts see a chance to sneak in the card game prompts, asking questions like "What is the most pain you've ever been in that wasn’t physical?" [17:12] and "How would you describe the feeling of being in love in one word?" [17:12]

  • Josh goes deep about relationships, self-reflection, religious guilt, and heartbreak.

    Josh: "So I, for some reason, had this mindset of trying to talk to them and get to know them and then ask them out. Which is, like, completely ass backwards…that’s the whole point of a date is to try and get to know them." [24:25]

  • Josh details his first (and last) night with the girl, her ghosting him, and an intense breakup via instant blocking. He expresses regret for not sticking to his standards, but also maturity in accepting responsibility.

    Josh (on losing his virginity): "...I told myself for how long that I wasn’t gonna do that, and then I did...If I had the opportunity again, would I do it? Probably." [38:35]

  • On relationships:

    Josh: "I’m looking for a relationship. I’m looking for a wife." [51:38]

  • The hosts encourage Josh, mixing humor and earnestness.

6. Bellied Up Listener Beef: Josh vs. Timmy Tango

• [41:08–48:34]

  • Josh brings up "beef" with another past caller, Timmy Tango, who previously roasted him on air.

  • Comparisons fly regarding dating approaches—Timmy's cougar-hunting at yoga vs. Josh’s more traditional approach.

  • Josh playfully roasts back (“...the gayest name I’ve ever heard”), only to be coached by the hosts on how ribbing evolves in today’s climate.

    Charlie: "You can’t just call him gay like it’s 1999. People embrace that these days. It’s 2025, for God’s sake." [47:22]

  • The hosts suggest a future "four-way" call to air out the beef directly, in Jerry Springer style.

7. Heartfelt Listener Impact

• [54:25–57:43]

  • Josh takes a poignant turn, thanking Charlie and Myles for the positive impact of their podcast on his mental health and outlook:

    Josh: "You guys truly changed my life. To be able to smile listening to you guys and even though I might not physically be there, to feel like I’m part of the conversation...It really made me feel a lot better about things, you know. I just want you guys to realize how big of an impact you guys really have." [54:25]

  • Both hosts, momentarily stilled, acknowledge the power of audience connection.

8. Second Caller: Thomas, the Concrete Guy

• [68:35–88:18]

  • Thomas, a third-generation Milwaukee-area concrete contractor, calls in—he’s recently had a son and named him "Miles" (after Myles).

  • They riff on blue-collar life, sharing stories about job site antics, being a boss, smoothing things over with Monsters and beers, and the culture of trades.

  • The conversation covers family legacies, lingo (“Gen3 always screws up”), and how Myles’ dad shaped his own work habits.

    Thomas (on generational business): "It’s crossed my mind. It’s in the back of there. We’re gonna do everything to, you know, not fuck it up. But…" [74:06]

  • They talk building techniques (footer methods, decorative stamps), project mishaps, fishing, and Midwest neighborliness.

9. Listener Voicemails & Final Card Game Prompt

• [89:06–94:15]

  • A Mississippi woman impresses with her "Fargo" accent, to much delight of the hosts.

  • The hosts muse on the sexiness (or lack thereof) of a Midwest accent, and joke about regional stereotypes.

    Myles: "I don’t think there’s anyone in the world that goes, ‘Wow, the Midwestern accent is just sexy.’" [90:10]

  • The episode closes with Charlie and Myles reading their final "message to each other" (as per the game’s instructions), paralleling the session’s mix of meaning and mischief:

    • Charlie (to Miles): Heartfelt, joking about inspiration and air filters.
    • Myles (to Charlie): "If you’re reading this, I’m probably dead. Just know I’m doing okay. I left some cash under the mattress for you to finally get that penis enlargement surgery...Happy stroking." [93:05]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Intro riffing & card unboxing: [00:00–03:39]
• "We're Not Really Strangers" gameplay & big questions: [03:40–14:00]
• First caller (Josh, dating update & beef): [17:53–56:30]
• Josh’s impact story, expression of gratitude: [54:25–57:43]
• Second caller (Thomas, the concrete guy): [68:35–88:18]
• Voicemail: Mississippi "Fargo" accent: [89:06–90:10]
• Final card game exchange (emotional letters): [91:04–94:15]

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Most Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Comedy & Earnestness Side-by-Side:

  • Myles (summing up the dynamic): "I would say that I thunder and lightning. I am the rougher grid of sandpaper, and you’re the finer grid." [05:11]
  • Charlie (singing): "And I will raise you up on eagle’s wings, make you to shine like the sun..." [09:01]

• Real Talk:

  • Josh: "...I have told myself for a long time that I would be strong enough, I guess, in a way, or to have the willpower to not do that when given the opportunity...and then I did." [37:24]
  • Charlie (on grilling a potential suitor): "I was trying to give you ways to ingratiate yourself, which you passed. Yeah, passed on that grass." [44:25]

• Listener Compliment That Landed:

  • Josh: "You guys truly changed my life...to be able to feel like I’m part of the conversation...I just want to make sure you guys realize how big of an impact you guys really have." [54:25]
  • Charlie & Myles: "As two guys who have a real hard time taking a compliment, this is difficult." [56:09]

• Midwest Wisdom:

  • Charlie: "Get out and do some fishing. That clears your mind. Walleyes are biting." [59:59]
  • Myles (on buying a house): "Your realtor's wet dream: divorced guy living in his sister’s basement." [81:17]

• On Beef and Bonds:

  • Charlie: "We can find a nice middle ground between Josh and Timmy Tango. Like, you don’t need to be…"
  • Myles: "We’re meeting the middle with Timmy Tango. Maybe don’t go to Pilates classes geared toward postmenopausal…"
  • Charlie: "...Just keep your heart open, my guy. Heaven is out there." [53:31–54:13]

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Key Themes and Running Gags

• The interplay of honesty and ribbing, especially via the card game prompts, is a recurring comedic engine.
• Sincerity sneaks in—particularly via listener stories—the hosts are quick to both roast and encourage.
• "Bellied Up Beef": The show signals its willingness to act as a Midwestern Jerry Springer, inviting listeners to air interpersonal disputes in good faith, with humor as the neutralizer.
• Regional pride and the gentle, knowing mockery of Midwest life pervade every interaction.

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Conclusion

Episode 201 of Bellied Up sets a new bar for candid conversation, listener involvement, and comic catharsis. By combining deep card game questions with barroom chat and listener confessions, Charlie and Myles create an atmosphere that's both raucous and real—one where Midwest modesty, vulnerability, and sharp wit find their home. The show delivers laughs, advice, and a sense of community, reaching out to everyone who’s ever needed a spot at the bar to share their story (or their beef).

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Transcript

[A]

Folks,

[B]

welcome back.

[A]

Welcome back to Belly It Up. My dad actually did listen to an episode of the Bellied up podcast, and he said, you start every episode with welcome back.

[B]

Yeah, that's kind of what we do.

[A]

Why?

[B]

You didn't like that?

[A]

I don't. He just called me to give me shit one day. He was bored. When he gets bored driving, he calls his kids. And he must have been really bored because then he listened to one of his kids podcasts.

[B]

Okay, well, let's. What do you want? How do you want to. Okay, let's see. Let's try it out for Mr. Barron's here.

[A]

Try out a different opening.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, so we'll scratched. Welcome back. What do you want to do now?

[A]

It's the Bellied up podcast with your host, Charlie Barons. And Miles, you bet.

[B]

You guys, how we doing?

[A]

Nice. I like it. Again. Miles, got a little game for you to play here.

[B]

All right, let's see it. We were going to open this game before we started, and Chuck wanted to open it live.

[A]

An unboxing welcome. Why do people do that?

[B]

What's. What's this game called?

[A]

It's called We're not really strangers Here.

[B]

We're not really strangers.

[A]

Look at this. Opening it with a Packers knife, like a cooking knife for those who can't hear. Oh, yeah.

[B]

So what is this game? It says in the back. Do you really know? I found this, by the way, in your game drawer over there.

[A]

Oh, I was wondering why you. Okay, so. So I've actually brought this.

[B]

That's so funny. He's like, I have the same one. Did you guys bring that?

[A]

No.

[B]

This is yours, by the way.

[A]

I don't know why we have this. I think, dude, daddy might have brought it when he came, but the. Oh, yeah, we did it for a sketch. But this card game, Miles, When I was D, this card game was popular, and I went on a few different dates with a few different gals, and this card game always came out. And it was like, this card game is just made to get you in trouble, you know?

[B]

Oh, that's what we're doing. Okay, so there's levels here. Okay. This is way more than I bargained for. You want to start with level one, level two, or level three? We should probably start with level what

[A]

is this the final card.

[B]

We'll go. We'll go. Connection.

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Here. Some of these. Okay, you open them up. Yeah. So some of these questions I remember playing, I was like, we don't. I don't know you that well. Why are we having this Conversation. You know, you'll want to open this

[C]

before we did this.

[A]

Oh, well, you know what, Miles? You know, you slamming that microphone on the table is really good radio. My dad's gonna like that.

[B]

Cut away from yourself.

[A]

Cut away from what?

[B]

Cut away from yourself.

[A]

Well, then I'd be cutting away from both of us, you know? All right.

[C]

You're right.

[A]

Sometimes. You're right, Miles. All right, so you asked me a question. I'll ask you a question. It'll be good. Okay. Shuffle.

[B]

Charlie.

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Yeah?

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Have you ever told someone I love you but didn't mean it? If so, why?

[A]

See what I mean?

[B]

See what I mean?

[A]

It's like you never told me that.

[B]

What are you more afraid of? Failure? Success. That's lame. Wild card. Swap seats with your partner.

[A]

Swap seats? Shit. We can do that. Let's see how warm your butt is.

[B]

All right.

[C]

All right.

[B]

That was easy. Okay, what are you still trying to prove to yourself this is very serious? You should start on level one.

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All right. Based on what you learned about me, does my social media accurately reflect who I am? Why or why not?

[B]

I would say yes, actually. Chuck.

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Yeah.

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Because the. The biggest tell. Do you remember you were actually in this cabin?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

And I called you just to say good night? Yeah, that video we posted.

[A]

Remember that?

[B]

And I had Ann record our conversation.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the amount of people that have come up to me and said, I watched that video. And they go, so he's really like that.

[A]

What was I doing in that video?

[B]

Charlie Barron. So, like, he's not doing a shtick?

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, it's an acquired taste for some. But thanks, Miles. And.

[B]

Oh, here we go. This one is. This one's good.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

What is the last thing you lied to your mother about?

[A]

Last thing I lied to my mom about. Oh, that's good. Probably. What did I talk to her about last? No, I'm teasing. I'm teasing. I probably might have said. Because I've been more truthful with my mom, as in my later years.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You know, I've stopped. I. I'll say. The last thing she wished I lied to her about. Well, no, I don't want to bring that up.

[B]

Let's go to the next car. This is Rapid Fire game.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Sorry. Okay. Okay. How do. How do our personalities complement each other?

[B]

Mm. I would say that I thunder and lightning. I am. I'm the rougher grid of sandpaper, and you're the finer grid of sandpaper. I like it.

[A]

I like it.

[B]

That's probably a good way to Describe you and I.

[A]

Miles. I was on a plane sitting next to some bowlers, and I did not know this, but they. They use 5,000 grit sandpaper on their bowling balls.

[B]

On their balls.

[A]

And I felt the sandpaper because me. And, you know, I like my way around.

[B]

You know, this is on a plane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm like, they're sanding their balls on a plane.

[A]

He was. These are professional bowlers. And I says, you know, I got, like. I know, like a nice 80. You know, that's you. A nice 80, but then maybe a 225,000. He had 1,000, 2,000. You have to buy them at specialty stores. Wow. But they're sanding their balls, and that's how you get the good spin. All right, let me give you one. Do you believe everyone has a calling? If so, do you think I've found mine?

[B]

Sure. Everyone's got a calling.

[A]

All right, your question.

[B]

But think about, like, in terms of calling. I feel like, all right, so what if I was born in an uncontacted tribe? Would my calling still be podcasting?

[A]

Probably not, right?

[B]

So I think calling. I think we make up our own calling.

[A]

You'd be the storyteller. You be the guy BSing around the campfire if you needed fires in that place.

[B]

Probably true. Yeah, probably true. That one's lame.

[A]

Wild card admits something.

[B]

That one's lame.

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Based on what you learned about me, what book would I.

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Never mind.

[B]

What question are you trying to answer most in your life right now, Chuck?

[A]

What question am I trying to answer most in my life? You know, what's our purpose, Miles? What's going on here?

[B]

You could have just said, what's going on with my deck? And why did they do it like that?

[A]

That would have been funny. All right, yours. Create your own question. Make it count. Come on, dude.

[B]

What?

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That's why. That's literally why I got this game, so I didn't have to think. Give your partner that's me a compliment. You don't think they hear enough?

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Chuck, you. You do a good job of making everyone feel comfortable around you.

[A]

Thank you, dude. Appreciate that.

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Chuck, what would your younger self believe about your life today?

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The is a podcast. Oh, I already said this one. Swap a song suggestion your partner may enjoy. I don't want to do that right now.

[B]

Just set it down and pick them up. Don't hold them in your hand.

[A]

Don't tell me what to do. God damn it. All right, what do you think I fear the most?

[B]

Your dad not being proud of you.

[A]

Well, that's already true. Miles, come on. No, I'm kidding. He's. I think he's proud.

[B]

That's your biggest.

[A]

But that is true. That's. Is that your biggest fear? What's your biggest fear? What, Miles?

[B]

That I'm not good enough?

[A]

Oh, well, okay, here we go, Chuck.

[B]

This is ours. Wild. This is a wild card.

[A]

Wild card.

[B]

Sing the chorus of your favorite song of all time. We gotta get into it. It says, oh, and I will raise

[A]

you up on eagle's wings, Make you

[B]

to shine like the sun and hold you in the palm of his hand. What title would you give this chapter of your life, Chuck? The

[A]

Big deck. Chapter There.

[B]

Big deck. Energy. What is a compliment you wish you receive more frequently?

[A]

Hey, you did a good job on this deck.

[B]

Well, okay.

[A]

What would be the perfect gift for me?

[B]

What would be the perfect gift for you?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, just anything outdoorsy.

[A]

Okay, nice. Real specific. What do you think our most important similarity is?

[B]

Most important similarity? We are very perceptive. Therefore we can point out stuff that's true. That is funny.

[A]

Observational. Very good.

[B]

Observational.

[A]

Very observant of you.

[B]

That one's weird.

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What can we create together? A baby based on what you know about me. Do you have any Netflix recommendations? Lame, dude. Lame.

[B]

If you have Charlie. When was the moment you realized you weren't invincible?

[A]

I just noticed that, like, all these are about me and all those are about me. You know? Like I'm. I'm saying, what do you admire most about me? And you're talking about you. You must have the U pile. You must have the U pile. We're supposed to be pulling from the same pile. This is an ego trip here. These are all me's. You know, level three is all about me. That's. That's how you get into trouble. I'll give you some.

[B]

I'm not sharing. You're not sharing?

[A]

Dude, we should have read the direction.

[B]

All right, here, I'll swap.

[A]

And then this says, final car. Dude, we're going to open that thing

[B]

in a second at the end of the episode.

[A]

We're not really strangers, folks. If you have never played. If you're just joining us right now, what was your question? You asked.

[B]

But here, this is. I just pulled one from your pile. It says, if you were in a band, what would your name be?

[A]

Oh, maybe I skip all the ones about you. If I was in a band, my name. I was in a band. Was called your project. Y O R E. Music of your Embarrassing. All right.

[B]

Mine would be Smokestack Envy.

[A]

Oh, how Smokestack envy. I like that.

[B]

When's when's when. When in this game did you feel most connected to me, Chuck?

[A]

When you told me that you're not enough if you. If you have. When was the moment you realized you weren't invisible?

[B]

That's the one.

[A]

I. Oh, invincible.

[B]

I just read that one.

[A]

I. When I fell off my bike, I got a scar. I can show you right here.

[B]

You just. That was supposed to be for me.

[A]

Oh, well, you asked me at first and then you were laughing, so I asked you the same question, Miles.

[B]

What do you admire most about me, Chuck?

[A]

I am glad you asked, Miles. I admire that you're a little Buddha. You know, Miles likes to pontificate on the. On the. The high level. You know, Miles, you're the guy. If we're on the Titanic, you're the guy up there looking to see where that iceberg is. And sometimes, on occasion, you hit the iceberg and you say, yeah, we really put a hole in that one. But you're. You're the very matter of fact guy, you know, and you see things from high level, and sometimes you see him in time and you veer. And other times you hit it and you just take it head on. You know, the Titanic took it in the side, but if it took it head on, it would have, you know, but that's it. No, it was better. If it took it head on, it would have.

[B]

No one would have survived every.

[A]

Yes, everyone, they. The problem was they side slashed and got that big old hole in the boat.

[B]

Oh, so you're saying that would have just gotten just. And so smaller holes and it hit it straight up?

[A]

Yes. And so what I admire about you is you take it all head on and you get a smaller hole. So.

[B]

All right, Chuck.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I. I found a card for our parting words before we talk to some callers.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This is a reminder card, and I want you to remember this during this episode, okay?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Reminder. Be more interested in understanding others than being understood.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

And with that, we're gonna take. We're gonna talk to some callers.

[A]

After you show me the first photo in your camera roll and explain it.

[B]

We'll see if.

[A]

And while you do that. Actually, at the end of the show, folks, it's a deep tease, so you stay till the end. We are gonna open the final card.

[B]

This is the first photo of my camera roll.

[A]

Let me see it.

[B]

Flops. A guy used to work with flops.

[A]

You were just talking about him today.

[B]

Look how red his skin is. It's that Red all the time, even in the middle of the winter. That's easy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know, is it. Is it from the sun or from.

[B]

Also at this time I took this photo. He was like 45 years old.

[A]

Are you kidding me? Holy smokes. Flops has aged like fine.

[B]

Whatever the opposite.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This is my second one.

[A]

Oh, dude, show the camera.

[B]

Jersey day at. When I was working concrete. That was my old AAU basketball jersey in like seventh grade.

[A]

Here's my question. Dude, are you. You wearing. Are those the original hey, dudes.

[B]

No, those were Sanuk shoes. Do you remember those? But yeah, Sanuk walks. So hey, dudes could run. And I also don't recommend running in hey dudes.

[A]

But yeah, those are. That's. That's a nice shirt. That's your AAAU shirt.

[C]

Huh?

[A]

Jam. What?

[B]

We're the Jam Boys.

[A]

The Jam Boys.

[B]

Our coach was initials was J A M. Oh, okay. I got asked to be on a team. I didn't.

[A]

Don't, don't shy away from it. We all know you named the team

[B]

RIP Today to him. He passed away.

[A]

Oh, what was his name?

[B]

John.

[A]

You just said it. Be more interested in others than yourself. See, we're learning. John. Cheers to John, huh?

[B]

Cheers to John. All right, I'm drinking your beer, you're drinking mine.

[A]

That's fine. What's this Black in the beer? All right, so should we take some callers and my.

[B]

Already went through.

[A]

Hey, hey, when we take some callers,

[B]

let's ask him one question.

[A]

But we're gonna sneak it. Okay? And we, we, the audience, maybe try

[B]

one of these guys.

[A]

Those are the most lame ass ones we gotta. We just, just pick off the table.

[B]

You know, you have to pick a card for me to sneak in and I have to pick one of yours.

[A]

Okay? All right. Okay. Okay. I like this. Similar to the dollar game.

[C]

We did that.

[A]

All right. There's some real good ones here. Oh, God.

[B]

This is the one that you have to.

[A]

Okay, all right, hang on.

[B]

But don't, don't reveal to the audience what the question is until you read it for real in the call.

[A]

No, no, no. I think it's funnier, Miles, if, If we. Because then the audience.

[B]

So we do want to reveal it.

[A]

We do want to reveal it. I want to read the one you give me and you.

[B]

Because the one you're reading.

[A]

Okay, okay. All right. Okay. This is the one mixed together. This is the one you're reading. Okay. All right. So, Miles, the question you gave me is, what's the most pain you've ever been in. That wasn't physical.

[B]

Fuck. All right. Mine is. How would you describe the feeling of being in love in one word? God damn it. God damn him.

[A]

All right, all right. And you got to. It's got to come across as casual. No laugh.

[B]

So what. We got two. We got two callers to.

[A]

To accomplish, and you have to ask it. And at the end of the show, we're going to read the final card. That's in the. You got the final card. All right, but you can. You can't. You cannot reveal that you're asking a card game from a.

[B]

No, no, no. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right, you got it.

[A]

Let's do it.

[B]

Who are we talking to? Jared wouldn't tell us. Who we're talking to is we're going to this blind.

[D]

I don't blame him because Charlie's gonna want to shoot me again.

[A]

Oh, wait a second. I think I know who this is.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I do. Miles, remember our live podcast in Milwaukee? Yeah, yeah. Remember the fella that wanted to date your sister? Date my sister? My God. My God, this is great.

[B]

This is great. All right, well, tell the folks, Chuck, what happened there.

[A]

All right, so we're doing a live podcast. Bellied up live in a watch.

[B]

Be on the lookout. We'll do. We'll do it again here in.

[A]

In the future, shout out to the Bul. The Bull. The Bull. 9,086 the Bull.

[B]

Continue on with the story.

[A]

Anyways, was it Josh?

[D]

Yes, Josh.

[A]

Josh came on. How do you like that? I remembered your name. Josh. Does that make you.

[D]

I'm impressed, considering. Well, no, not really, because you did kind of want to shoot me, so I think you'd remember.

[A]

I didn' shoot you, man.

[B]

Josh, to make you feel better, Charlie gave us a tour of his cabin in his woods. And we came across a. His ax throwing session. And he had placed it a photo of you in. Out there. And he's pretty accurate with those axes, by the way.

[A]

Good to know.

[D]

Good to know.

[B]

Continue on. What happened?

[A]

Well, Josh came on and he said, oh, he wrote this question, Charlie, is your sister single? I want to date her. Something to that effect. Effect. And then Josh came up on stage and I proceeded to grill him like a flank steak or maybe a dry rub.

[B]

Doesn't matter. Keep going.

[A]

And we found out landscaper, right, Josh, you had your own landscape at the time?

[D]

Yes. Yeah, no, I was not had my own business.

[A]

Okay. That's right. I said if you did, that would have been better.

[D]

Perhaps you wanted me to mow Your grandma's lawn, and I. I didn't want to, so.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Josh.

[B]

Yeah? Why are we having Charlie give this recap? Josh, finish the recap for us, please.

[D]

Well, I, I, I remember it the other way. I think I grilled Charlie a little bit more, but I. Charlie. Well, I spent about 10 minutes just hammering Charlie. Yeah, I don't think. Which I don't think started everything off.

[A]

Well, yeah, you did piss me off in some way. And it wasn'. You wanted to date my sister. There was something. Oh, definitely that.

[B]

You.

[C]

You.

[D]

I said I worked landscaping, and you said that you used to mow lawns, and I said that I don't mow lawns, and I.

[B]

We are not the same.

[D]

Yeah, like, don't. Don't compare me to that.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, that's right. Yeah, you were.

[B]

And then we called your sister live. Right?

[C]

We did.

[D]

And then Charlie FaceTimed Ellie.

[B]

Yep. And she tried to hook you up with a friend, Keep your name out your mouth and. So is this a bellied update on you and the friend?

[D]

Kind of. Okay, that's part of it.

[B]

All right, well, let's get into it.

[D]

Also not much of an update.

[A]

I want to say, back when I was doing lawns, we didn't know that. You know, I didn't know the full professional, but I was landscaping, Okay? I was doing. I was doing bushes. I was. I was sorting yarn, if someone had yarn. You know, I was doing a lot of stuff, okay? So I, I was trimming trees.

[B]

That just didn't bother me that much.

[A]

I. I picked dandelions for one woman and made dandelion wine at the age of 11 and a half. Okay. In her basement, I was stomping dandelion heads making that wine. All right? So I don't want to hear you bitch.

[D]

All right, all right, fine.

[B]

Is that a real story?

[A]

That's an absolutely real story.

[B]

Every. Every.

[A]

Let me drink it, too.

[B]

Every episode, you think you've heard every story from Charlie, and then he whips out a stomping dandelion wine in the bottom of some girl's basement.

[A]

She was not a. Yeah, she was Mrs. Grotty. Rest in peace.

[D]

She gotta remember he's 39. He's got endless stories.

[A]

Josh. Josh. We're not off on a good. I thought we'd be. All right, all right. You know what? Let's hear it, Josh. Let's hear this bellied update. I'm gonna suck it in.

[D]

Well, it's truly not much of an update. Not a whole lot happening.

[B]

Well, that's because this is a podcast.

[D]

Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. But I do have other stuff to share.

[A]

Okay, good.

[D]

So, well, I will tell you what happened. I messaged her on your sister on Instagram the next day. I said, hey, if you were serious, I would love to talk to her. She said, of course I was. Here's her Instagram. So I added her on Instagram. She followed me back, and we talked

[C]

for

[D]

maybe a week or so, and then it kind of just fizzled out and didn't do go anywhere. It wasn't very exciting.

[A]

Well, she has a boyfriend. Did she tell you that?

[D]

Your sis. Your sister.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, no, I know. I know that.

[D]

I'm not talking about your sister.

[A]

I wasn't paying attention. My bad, my bad.

[B]

Charlie's. Where's that card? Where's the card?

[A]

I was trying to follow the story. If we rewind, I think we lost the card.

[B]

All right, reminder. Be more interested in understanding others than being understood.

[A]

I was not trying to be understood. I was trying to understand him. Dude, I was trying to clarify the story.

[B]

Read the card.

[A]

Okay, fine. That's a good reminder. Sorry, Josh. So, you know, so it fizzled out. What. What you want? I mean, read us. I mean, exchanges.

[D]

I'm not gonna do that. I actually don't think I have them anymore because we are not. We don't follow each other anymore, so I don't think I have them.

[A]

You unfollowed her.

[D]

I think she unfollowed me.

[A]

Oh, yikes. Brutal.

[B]

You don't remember, but you're just taking L after l. Well, so you got to be. You got to be in some pain.

[A]

Yeah. Was that painful, Josh?

[D]

Not really. At the time, it was pretty like, that was like, probably the fifth time in as many months that that happened.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

With a girl like, it. It was kind of the same thing over and over again.

[B]

Some pain

[D]

at the time. I re. Like, eventually I realized that I was doing things very wrong when it came to these girls.

[A]

What do you. What were you doing wrong?

[D]

So I, for some reason, had this mindset of trying to talk to them and get to know them and then ask them out.

[B]

Ah.

[D]

Which is, like, completely ass backwards.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I have since learned that that that's the whole point of a date is to try and get to know them. So trying to do that beforehand, they just get bored of the conversation and then just, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Don't talk to you anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And that's kind of what I had done with Ellie's friend was.

[B]

Or get off the pot.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And you know, so it's like, you know, I realized it was. It was. It was me. I was the problem, you know, kind of thing. It.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Very mature.

[D]

But I. I've since learned my lesson. I. That has changed. And that's part of another thing I wanted to share with you guys.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So I'm still single, but we know after what. Yeah. So that was what, August last year?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then in October, I finally got

[B]

to go on a date.

[A]

Hey, let's go, Josh. All right, man.

[D]

Was the first date in three years.

[B]

Wow, that is painful.

[A]

That must have been painful. Josh, quick aside, quick aside. Before we go down this date, and this is an interesting. An interesting way of looking, but what is the most pain you've ever been in that wasn't physical? Oh, boy.

[D]

Honestly, I. So I'm a volunteer firefighter and we had a member. We had a line of duty death on our department.

[E]

Damn.

[D]

That was probably the.

[A]

Damn. What was his name?

[D]

It was she. Her name was Amy.

[A]

Amy. Shout out to Amy. Shout out to all of our firefighters out there. Hey, Josh. Shout out to you. Getting out there. That is tough work, man. And. Yeah. So, Josh, because we gotta. We just gotta address this real quick. Okay. All right.

[B]

Forge on.

[A]

All right.

[B]

That's what.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

He would want us to. For John.

[A]

Shout out to Amy. Thanks for sharing that. Not where I expected that question to go.

[D]

No, that's why I was like, hey,

[A]

that was shout out.

[B]

It's all right.

[A]

That's life. It's okay.

[B]

It's life.

[A]

Okay. It's okay.

[B]

So you. You got. Went on this date. What happened?

[D]

The day. So the date was good. The date was good. We went mini golfing in October when It was like 15 degrees. But no, it was in. So it was inside, so.

[A]

Oh, it was.

[D]

This wasn't. This was in. In Oshkosh.

[B]

Over in Oshkosh. Indoor mini golf.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is it at the Holiday Inn?

[D]

No, it's. The place is kind of a dump.

[A]

Well, shout it out, dude. And we gotta give a props.

[D]

I don't even know what it's called. I think it's called.

[B]

It's called the dump.

[A]

The dump.

[D]

Yeah, it's. But it's glow in the dark. And yeah, it's kind of a dump. Which I didn't realize when I had never been there before when I invited this girl there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I also say glow in the dark. Dark mini golf for a first date is a little bit.

[D]

Okay, Charlie, don't even.

[A]

I mean. Anyways, let's keep going.

[C]

So.

[D]

So the date was good, and then we sat in my car after and talked for probably two hours.

[A]

Wow. Wow.

[D]

Use a lot of gas, but.

[A]

Yeah, you're just watching your bank account drain by the moment.

[D]

Yeah. And then we went and got ice cream at Culver's.

[A]

This is so cute.

[D]

And then it's custard, by the way. You're really. Oh, Jesus. Anyway, come on.

[A]

I'm being specific, man. What? I'm. I am. I'm trying to be more interested.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I know. In understanding.

[B]

Understanding others and being understood.

[A]

Sorry. Sorry. Josh. Josh, I'm sorry. Okay.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

So.

[D]

And then eventually, when Culver's closed, I took her back. So she went to school in Oshkosh. So I took her back to her dorm, dropped her off, and that was the night. Then this was a Thursday. So then the Saturday, the Saturday after that, which I was surprised. She came back to me only two days later. But she invited me to her dorm because her roommate was out. And she said, want to come over, watch a movie, whatever. I said, sure. I went up to her dorm and we watched where? The Millers.

[B]

Great movie.

[A]

Fantastic.

[D]

I had never seen that movie at the time.

[B]

Oh, God. Great movie. So tough movie to Avon in the background if things start getting hot and heated.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you kind of want to know what happens next.

[D]

We'll get there.

[B]

Like, I cannot have the office going

[D]

when we'll get there, too. There's a.

[C]

There's.

[D]

There's more steps to this.

[A]

Okay, Miles.

[B]

So you're right.

[D]

So we watch. So we watched this movie. When the movie was over, it was probably, like, 10:30. And she said something along the lines of that. She's like, I feel bad because you have a long drive home. It's not that long. I live north of Fond du Lac. It was only like, 20 minutes. But she said, oh, you got a long drive home. Like, I was thinking myself, like, well, it's not really that long, but here's my opportunity. I said, well, I don't have to go home. And she kind of looked at me. She's like, okay. So I spent the night with her in her dorm.

[A]

Oh, it's getting hot in here.

[B]

Holy smokes.

[D]

I really. I really hope my mom doesn't listen to this.

[B]

And also turn. Charlie, I want you to think about that in an alternate universe, this could be. He could be talking about your sister.

[A]

You know what, Miles? I'm trying to be more interested in understanding others than being understood. Thank God it wasn't my sister. All Right. So,

[D]

yeah, I hope my mom's not gonna listen to this, but she does know I'm calling in, but she does not listen to the podcast. We're good. My brother does, so he is gonna hear this, but I think he already knows.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

So I spent the night there and then, which I gotta say, sleeping in a twin size mattress two feet from the ceiling with another person is not easy. I don't know. I have no idea how Jared shared a twin bed with his girlfriend.

[B]

It's not easy.

[A]

It's not easy.

[D]

And then. So, yeah, I slept like, absolutely. You slept? Yeah, I did surprise somehow. And then in the morning I woke up at like probably 7:30, which is on a random Saturday, that or Sunday morning that's not normally happening. And I. That was, that was it. I was up, I was awake, and she's still asleep. I'm like, well, what the hell do I do now?

[B]

And God, what'd you do?

[D]

I didn't do anything. I legitimately, I probably sat there, I scrolled on my phone a bit and stared at the ceiling until eventually she kind of sort of half woke up.

[B]

There you go. Sleepy half.

[D]

Yeah, so she was like. So she kind of turned over towards.

[B]

I was wondering when you were gonna wake up.

[D]

And so, you know, I did the usual like, oh, how'd you sleep? And you know, this and that. And then we started making out.

[A]

Wait, you didn't make out the night before?

[D]

No, this was 8 o' clock on a Sunday morning.

[A]

So you just waited for your breath to be stanky?

[D]

Yes, I waited for my Sunday morning breath. Should have been in church, but instead I'm in this random chick's dorm room making out with her.

[B]

Wow. Okay, call it.

[A]

Yeah, there you go. And how did it again.

[B]

This could have been your sister.

[A]

How. How was your breath?

[D]

I can't imagine. It was good.

[A]

How was hers?

[D]

I don't really remember anything. So I can't. So it can't be. So it couldn't have been bad.

[A]

And this was your first kiss in three years?

[D]

This was my first like legit kiss ever.

[A]

Whoa, whoa, Miles, you're stepping on my microphone cord.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

Damn. Nice, dude.

[B]

So, okay, here's. I mean, sounds like you're in love.

[D]

Well, I thought so. Maybe.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

How. How would you describe the feeling of being in love in one word?

[D]

I. I can't. I wasn't in love, so I, I have. I, I can't. I wouldn't say I've ever been in love, so I have no idea. What it's like.

[B]

So you now or what it was?

[D]

It's a podcast, Miles. It's not.

[B]

But if you had described the feeling of being in love in one word, what would you say?

[D]

I think it's got to be like heaven.

[A]

Let me just tell you this.

[D]

That's my best. That's my best guess. I have no idea.

[B]

Heaven on earth.

[A]

Heaven. Heaven. That's his best guess. But, Miles, what we have to understand is he doesn't have to be interesting. We just have to be more interested in understanding him than being understood.

[B]

I agree with that. I agree. It's a good reminder.

[A]

How long was the makeout sesh?

[D]

I would have to say that part went on for, I don't know, 10 minutes maybe.

[B]

Was there a little tonsil hockey? Was there any heavy petting going on?

[D]

Well, I mean, yeah. Well, that there's. Well, so there's more to the story.

[A]

Okay, let's go.

[B]

But you gotta move it faster. I don't need the details that you woke up.

[A]

I'm trying.

[B]

We know that you woke up.

[A]

Yeah, Miles, let's.

[B]

Let's be more interested in understanding others and being understood.

[A]

Exactly.

[D]

And then eventually we kept going, and I. I lost my virginity.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

You.

[A]

Whoa? That was.

[B]

I mean, congratulations.

[A]

I was going in unexpected places here.

[D]

I mean, how was that unexpected? I thought I was hinting at it pretty well.

[A]

Well, I mean, I mean, I guess

[B]

now I think about it, I, I didn't know I was real. I didn't realize we were getting that how I lost my virginity story.

[A]

I didn't know that either. You know, I mean, this is a story that are.

[B]

You lost your virginity to someone you don't even love. Huge. Huge. Have you repented on that? Geez, Louise.

[C]

Are you.

[D]

Could have been your sister.

[A]

Miles, Miles, I need you to grow up a little bit here, all right? Okay. Josh is spilling out his heart for us, and.

[D]

Yeah, you know, I'm not exactly proud of it.

[A]

Why? You're not proud of it?

[B]

It's a fine, fine enough story, you know?

[D]

No, but I, I've been so. Okay, so before this, you know, like I said, it was the first time in three years I'd ever even been on a date. I had only ever had one quote, unquote girlfriend before, and it was just a high school relationship that was like a month long. So, you know, I, I, I have told myself for a long time that I would be strong enough, I guess, in a way, or to have the willpower to not do that when given the opportunity.

[A]

Catholic huh?

[D]

No. Lutheran. Sorry.

[A]

Oh, you guys don't have rules?

[D]

What do you mean?

[A]

You guys are Catholic.

[D]

We have them. We just don't follow them.

[A]

Oh, yeah, well, same with Catholic. You might be Catholic. That should be the new game. Oh, never mind. Anyway, sorry, Josh.

[D]

Like I said, I've told myself for a long time that, like, I would be able to resist that and not do that, because I feel like there's really nothing good to come from it. It will really. Only it won't. If anything, it'll only. And poorly. There's really no super huge benefit to it. And then I got the opportunity and I did it, and I. Yeah, I

[B]

mean, practice is a lot different than game reps, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And that's just what I. That's why I say is, like, I'm not exactly proud of it, because I told myself for how long that I wasn't gonna do that, and then I did.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

But I think you're finding out a truth about human nature, you know?

[D]

Yeah, I suppose, but.

[A]

Well, it's in the past now. It's over six months past it, so. Have your thoughts fermented a bit on the situation? Are you still feeling guilt? Have you kissed a girl since?

[D]

No. Haven't even been on a date since.

[A]

Oh, gosh, Josh, what are we gonna do with you? My guy?

[D]

Ah, it's all right.

[A]

Well, I'll be all right now. You still have the guilt of it. It feels like not.

[D]

I wouldn't. I don't know if I'd say that, because the thing I think about, you know, I feel like it's. I need to be honest with myself and ask myself, if I had the opportunity again, would I do it? Probably. Like, dog. Like, I'm just. I know. Like, I'm trying to be honest with myself and tell myself, like, do I regret it? Yes. But I think I only regret it because of the way it ended.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I know myself. I know full well.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

How did I know myself? So when I left that morning, after we had made plans to do something the next day, literally, and then she just blocked me on everything.

[A]

She blocked you?

[D]

Yeah. Snapchat, Instagram. We met on Hinge, So unhinged on everything, so I had no way of contacting her or anything. That was just the end.

[B]

Huh.

[A]

Interesting. Now, I grew up in a time before this blocking thing. I don't know that I've ever blocked anyone, but. But it, you know, you. Did you have anything go south toward the end of the situation?

[D]

No, literally, nothing happened. Well, I left we were. I left. Like I said, we had plans. I left. I kissed her before I left. And then. So everything was good when I left. And then she never talked to me until like 4 o' clock that night. And then she just did.

[B]

So here's a question. Did you tell her after you guys. When you guys were smoking a cigarette afterwards, did you tell her that was your first time?

[D]

I think I might have mentioned it somewhere along the way, but it was hers too, so.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Well, she's feeling the same thing you are, man.

[D]

I know.

[B]

And that's exactly.

[D]

And that's exactly what I think happened, is she kind of just regretted it after and then just decided to just end it, you know, kind of like. Yeah, just forget about it and push it behind. Put it behind her. Which I don't blame her for. It is what it is.

[A]

Well, it seems like there's a lot of pain going on here, Josh. A lot of confusion perhaps. And you are talking to two people very unqualified to deal with that.

[D]

Yeah. You know, that's why I. We've spent a lot more time on this than I thought we were going to.

[A]

I wasn't. Yeah, well, you gave us a belly update and. My God.

[D]

Well, the thing was, I had something else I wanted to talk about, too.

[A]

Please bring it up. Please.

[D]

Well, I'm sure you guys remember not too long after that episode aired, somebody decided to call in and talk about me on a podcast.

[A]

Our podcast.

[D]

Your old friend, Timmy Tango.

[B]

Yeah, dude, we're. We talk about the clash of titans. We. We. We have the. The. The. The virgin interested in your sister. And then we have Timo Timmy Tango going to yoga classes, trying to hook up with cougars.

[A]

Yeah, the cougar. The cougar wrangler. And Josh, the first timer. What did we talk about? You. I don't think we would have talked.

[B]

Timmy did.

[A]

What did he say?

[B]

What was Timmy spewing?

[D]

So he literally, the first time he called in, he calls in and all he says is, oh, that guy who was on your bellied up live. You want to talk to your sister. All he did was just crash and burn and that. And then I'm like, what the hell, dude? Like, what. What did I do to deserve that?

[B]

I also remember who's doing. It's Timmy Tango.

[A]

Come on, Timmy. Timmy Tango doesn't speak. Which is.

[D]

Which is the gayest name I've ever heard. Better than me.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

But also you, because we came up with that name.

[D]

Yeah, well, but then. So when. When he called in when you. When he said that Charlie. Charlie came to my defense, which I was super impressed with, considering he wanted to shoot me the first time.

[A]

Yeah, I can't remember. What did I say? Tell him what I said.

[D]

So you said. I don't remember exactly. It was something along the lines of like, you were. That I was on the spot talking to your sister. And like, you, you're empathizing with him. Yeah, you were just kind of. Oh, you know, he was just on the spot.

[E]

He.

[D]

Whatever.

[B]

Well, so that sandpaper, you know, which.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

What I to say to that is like, sure, but you, you, you called your sister and then literally the first thing she said was, oh, I have a boyfriend. Well, okay, that's the end of that. What am I, what am I supposed to do?

[B]

Yeah, you did know she had a boyfriend before he called her. Right?

[A]

But I thought it'd be more entertaining to not know.

[B]

I like how Timmy Ting. This is getting turned on you here now.

[A]

I like how he's turned. First of all, let me tell you.

[B]

All right, well, hey, well, hold on. Let's get. I want to hear this Timmy Tango beef.

[D]

Well, that's. I mean, okay, so like that's my thing is like, well, she has a boyfriend. What am I supposed to do? What it like, I didn't, I didn't crash and burn. I didn't do anything because what am I supposed to do?

[A]

Well, here's where you crashed and burned. First of all, we named Timmy Tango, so we, we named him. And also, it's okay if it's a gay name. There's nothing wrong with that.

[B]

You know, you would have hated our last call.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And.

[A]

And Tim Jimmy Tango, Let me tell you something about him. That fella, he's just exploring the cougars. That man's going to be a full on swinger at some day soon here, so. And he strikes me as a fellow that. I don't know, maybe he swings both ways. Maybe it's.

[D]

That's fine. I don't. You can do what he wants to do.

[C]

I don't care.

[A]

Yeah, and the other thing is you really crashed and burned when you said you wouldn't mow my grandma's lawn because you're trying to date my sister. You're going to. To mow her lawn. You know that. Or you would at least say yes, you know, because otherwise I'm mowing it. And you know, so I'm trying to. I was trying to give you ways to ingratiate yourself, which you passed. Yeah, passed on that Grass.

[D]

Yeah, well, so that. But then the thing was, after you, after that, you guys asked Timmy what he would have done different?

[A]

Yeah. What did he say?

[D]

You know, tell us our podcast back to us. So you guys like role played of if he was talking to your sister and he go. And he just starts talking about you, Charlie?

[A]

Yeah, he burned that. He crashed and burned too, didn't he?

[D]

He just. Yeah, he just is all like. He's like, oh, you know, I really like your brother's comedy. And I'm like, why the hell would he. Which would Ellie want to talk about, Charlie? Ellie wants you to talk about her.

[E]

Not.

[B]

She wants more interested in understanding Ellie than being understood.

[D]

So here. So here Timmy comes on and. And shits on me and then does the exact same thing I did. Probably honestly, in my opinion, worse.

[B]

Okay, so would you be willing to do a four way call between us two, you and Timmy, and you guys hash it out at some point in the future?

[D]

Hey, I.

[A]

Sure.

[D]

I'm probably gonna regret it because he's probably gonna just fry me, but.

[B]

Well, first of all, sure. So he roasted you. I want you to roast back.

[D]

Well, I kind of did when I called him gay.

[B]

You said he's got a gay name. Well, what else?

[D]

I don't think there's much roasting that needs to be done. He kind of just does it himself. He calls himself Timmy Tango and goes to yoga to hook up.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

Okay, that's fine. But I don't need to roast him. He's just doing it himself.

[B]

So you're saying he's a desperate kid?

[D]

I. Yeah.

[A]

So look at you stirring this pot, Miles. Look at you.

[D]

I think so. Like, sure, I've got, you know, it's not like I'm super experienced and whatever, but I've got my standards and I live by that. I'm not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna violate my standards just to get. Just to get some, you know.

[A]

Do you think

[B]

so you think Timmy Tango is just going about it wrong? What should Timmy Tango be doing?

[D]

I'm not saying Timmy's going about it wrong. He can do whatever he wants. But I'm just saying that that's, you know, that's.

[C]

I.

[D]

That's not, that's not the. That's just.

[B]

You got standards and Timmy doesn't. Yeah, Timmy will do anything with a pulse is what you're saying.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

Listen to Miles now. He's coaching you on how to roast a guy because you can't just call him gay like it's 1999. People embrace that these days. It's 2025, for God's sake.

[D]

It's 2026.

[A]

Whatever. But you get the point. And also, I think that you gotta really. I think what you're pointing out here is you. You're. You're projecting a bit of, you know, the guilt.

[B]

You're still hurting about your first time.

[A]

Uh huh.

[B]

And also your guys talking about standards and whatnot. You had sex for the first time with stinky morning breath and a twin XL mattress in a dorm room. So let's say. Let's maybe take a reflection here.

[A]

What if you're missing out on a. On a good friend here with Timmy? Tango.

[D]

You know, that's. I'm. Yeah, truly. Maybe Timmy and I would get along great. I tell you what, me, it's like my best friends have completely different personalities than me. And Timmy and I are up. I seem to be very opposite of each other.

[B]

And honestly, it does take two to tango.

[A]

And you guys, it does do the dance.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, maybe it's a cool name.

[D]

No, I'm passing on that. Well, maybe not doing the t. I'm not doing the tango with Timmy.

[A]

Why? Well, not with. Well, you never know. Maybe. Hey, that. That's the thing that you're holding on deep inside. We don't know.

[B]

And that's fine.

[A]

That's totally cool.

[D]

My dad thinks I'm gay, so.

[A]

Well,

[D]

Yeah, I mean, actually think I'm

[B]

gay, but I mean, get in line though. We all got dads like that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. So. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey. What? Your friends, you said you got them. What did they say about your. Your first date situation?

[D]

So actually only two of them know about it. That's not true.

[B]

Now they're all gonna know, but.

[D]

So one of them knew I was with her that night and so he asked me about it the next morning and he was. He was kind of like just as surprised and like, whatever that I was. The way that she reacted at the earth way that she, you know, just blocked me at the end in the same way that he just like, didn't understand it. Like, why, like, what the hell happened? Kind of thing.

[A]

Okay, well. Hey, hey, look at this. We got time. I bet you this gal, maybe she's listening right now. What would you like to say to her?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Had she not blocked you?

[D]

I would like to say I'm sorry that if, you know, maybe you weren't ready to do that. And I would love to have another opportunity of. And to not. And if you don't want to do that ever again. I will not. We have. We. We can get married and die and never do it again. I don't care. I just want. Would like another chance.

[B]

Oh. Oh, so you're saying you've had sex with sex once. You're good. You're good for life now.

[C]

That's not.

[D]

No, that's not what I'm saying. But my point is. I know that's kind of what I said, but that's not my point. My point is, like, that. I re. My point is, I realized that that's probably what caused her to ghost me.

[B]

Liked her so much that you would be willing to get married and never have sex again as long as you could be married to her.

[D]

Well, that was kind of an exaggeration. My point. That's. My point was that. My point was that we just. I. We don't need to. Like, that's not. I don't need. I don't need that specifically out of a relationship. Like, that's not what I'm looking for. I don't want her to think I'm just.

[B]

That's not your number one priority is what.

[D]

Right. I don't want her to think that I'm just some player that only wants to just sleep with women all the time. That's not what I.

[B]

You're not a Timmy Tango, is what you're saying.

[D]

Exactly. That's not what I'm looking for kind of thing.

[A]

Okay, got it.

[B]

We gotta get you.

[D]

I'm looking for a relationship. I'm looking for. I'm looking for a wife.

[A]

Whoa. How old are you again?

[D]

20.

[A]

Got it.

[D]

Well, I'm not saying, like, I want. Like that I'm not gonna date a girl because I don't want to hear,

[B]

yeah, we got it.

[D]

The end goal for me is marriage, is to have a fan, is to get married and have a family.

[B]

It's good. Yeah. I mean, you got. You got a lot going on right now.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know what? I think I'll. Go ahead. Josh.

[D]

Well, I was just gonna say, you know, I. I'm doing pretty well for myself on my own. You know, I, like, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have somebody else, but, like, I. I'm perfectly fine on my own too. You know, I don't gotta spend. I don't got. I don't gotta spend money on her. I don't. You know, I. I got myself a new job since I met you guys. I got myself a new car. I got. You know, I'M I'm doing. I'm doing. I'm doing fine.

[B]

You know, I don't need no woman. I don't gotta spend any money on her. I don't gotta listen to her nagging all day.

[D]

Yeah, I don't need a woman. I want one, but I don't need it. I'm doing just fine.

[A]

You are doing just fine, Josh. And listen, don't let you know the first, you know, situ. It's always awkward, you know, anytime you do it. So just kind of give everyone sort of a shot there, you know, you don't need to go totally into yourself, you know, Keep putting yourself out there. I think that's. Yeah, I think that, you know, we can find a nice middle ground between Josh and Timmy Tango. Like, you don't need to be.

[B]

We're.

[A]

We're meeting the middle with Timmy Tango. Maybe don't go to Pilates classes geared toward post menopausal things. But. But maybe go. Go to a women class. You mean.

[D]

You mean women?

[A]

I don't know. They have these postmenopausal Pilates classes and

[B]

imagine Tango going to a class like that.

[A]

I think. Didn't he say he was going to. Yeah, he was. He was going.

[D]

I don't. You don't have to imagine it. He does.

[A]

But what I'm saying is maybe, like,

[B]

there's specifically four way. I didn't real. I. I missed that part. I thought they were just yoga classes that post menopausal women were going to.

[A]

Maybe I misheard that. I thought he was going, oh, that's

[B]

extra funny if that's what he's doing.

[D]

Maybe. Maybe it's not specifically directed at them, but that's who goes.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Only people who do that.

[C]

Oh, he.

[A]

Maybe it was. He was going to a certain time of day or something. That was it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, he was having coffee with him. Just. Just keep. Keep your heart open, my guy. Heaven is out there. Okay. And. Yeah, you know, just. Just keep hanging in there. All right.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Well, hey, can I say one thing before you get. Before I let you guys go charge.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm gonna get sappy on you guys. I know you don't like that, but I just, I. You know, with all this that goes on, you know, like, again, it had been three years without a date, this and that, you know, I wasn't always in the greatest emotional state, you know, kind of thing. And I just being able to listen to you guys, listen to your podcasts, turn on bellied up or YBR or Patreon or watch your skits on YouTube, whatever it may be was. I'm not gonna say it saved my life. I was never going to kill myself. But like it. You guys truly changed my life. You know, to be able to smile listening to you guys and even though I might not physically be there, to be able to feel like that I'm part of the conversation and being in on all the inside jokes kind of thing and all this whatever, what have you, you know, it makes you. It really made me feel a lot better about things, you know. And I just. I want you. I hope. I just want to make sure you guys realize how big of an impact you guys really have. You know, a lot of people might want to say, oh, I'm not that famous, I'm not that whatever. And that's fine. But I just. You guys have. And it's. I know I'm not the only person that. Who feels that way about or that you guys have affected in that way.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

So I just want you guys to know that you guys have made a much bigger impact on people's lives than you might realize.

[A]

Well, as two guys who have a real hard time taking a compliment. This is difficult.

[B]

No, we. I mean we really appreciate it. It's. And also hearing that stuff does. Because there's some times where we're like this is tough. You know, we're. We're trying to find a way to be funny or entertaining or whatever. And then hearing stuff like that reminds us why we do it.

[A]

It makes all the bars we go to in the middle of a work day worth it.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, sincerely, Josh, we do thank you and we thank you for coming on and you know, it'll be good to see in person again. Maybe the next bellied up live.

[D]

Josh, I would love to.

[A]

Maybe we'll get.

[D]

Absolutely love to come again.

[A]

You and Timmy in person together. Maybe Timmy if you're out there we

[D]

found and we can throw hands on stage.

[B]

Yeah. I thought we were maybe done with Timmy but he's. He's back.

[A]

Timmy's back. Baby. I think you and Timmy would be great friends and I think you'll learn a lot from each other and you know, maybe. Maybe what you're looking for is a 28 year old. You never know.

[D]

No this but okay.

[B]

Well dude, we 1. We appreciate the kind words like I said a lot and reminds us why we do this and makes it all worth it and so we appreciate that dude, we appreciate you listening and he also we appreciate you being a good sport and letting us Kind of roast you a little bit too, of course.

[D]

And that, you know, see, that's the kind of thing, like when I. I don't know if you remember when I was there in Milwaukee, like, when I came on stage and I dapped you guys up when everybody else was just shaking their hands like, this is a business meeting. I'm like, that's something I. That I also just love about you guys is the way that, that you make all of. Like, I feel like I know you guys like my best friends.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

You know, you guys, the way you interact with the. Just this, your senses of humor, your two shows and your everything, the way you interact with the people who call in and such like that, it's. It's like I could hang, genuinely sit down with you at a bar and have a good time.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And that was why I was like, when I was there and I dapped you up, I was like, I'm not gonna shake your hand. This isn't a business meeting. Like, I feel like I know you guys like my best friends.

[A]

Wow. Well, you know what? We are here for you, Josh. Okay? We are and hope to see at a. At a bar sometime here soon. And when you see us. Yeah, you come on up and you. You dab or go for the full hug. Maybe I have hug to start, you

[D]

know, But I'm gonna give you a hug, Charlie.

[A]

Yeah, we'll get him for a. Charlie

[B]

actually likes it when you get. Do a little grab assing on him too.

[A]

I. Yeah, on occasion. On occasion. Yeah.

[B]

Gotta buy him dinner first, though.

[A]

Buy is a key word.

[D]

I'll find you. I'll find you in a. In a bar and I'll buy you around, and then. Then I can grab your ass.

[A]

Yeah, that's how I like it, Josh. That's how I like it. All right, well, listen, my guy, thank you for calling in. Tell your mom and your brother we say hi, and I will. Yeah. Make sure your mom listens to this episode.

[D]

Yeah, I'm probably gonna get kicked out of the house now.

[A]

No, Josh, come on. They might kick you into the attic or something, but. But also 20 years old. You got your new job, new car, time to move out, my guy. Kick yourself out of there.

[D]

I'm trying. I'm trying. But, yeah, you know, it's. It takes a lot more than you think.

[A]

Yeah, no, I. I know it. I know I've been.

[D]

I've been working, trying to buy some land recently, and even land is like $30,000 an acre in this area, so. 30,000 an acre, 20 to 30 for residential land.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, in Oshkosh, in the.

[C]

Like.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

North of Fond du Lac. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Between, like, Van Dyne. Between them.

[A]

Oh, sure. Yeah. Get out and do some fishing. That clears your mind. Walleyes are biting.

[D]

I don't really fish, but I'll hit the golf course.

[A]

Go fish. Go fish on the golf course.

[B]

Go golf. Get pissed. It's really therapeutic.

[D]

There you go. Yeah, it just.

[C]

It's.

[D]

It makes you get mad at something that's not what's currently making you mad.

[A]

Yeah. And somehow you work it out, you know, so. Well, thank you for calling. We do appreciate the kind words.

[B]

Josh, talk to you again.

[A]

Get on out there.

[D]

Thank you, guys. All right, thanks, guys.

[A]

All right, bye. Bye. Well, Miles, that was really nice to hear, wasn't it?

[B]

That was a roller coaster.

[A]

Yeah. God, why did we play this game? Oh, my gosh.

[B]

All right, well, I think that that was good. I feel like we actually came around. We got a new beef that we just started, and I'm excited for that. So, Jared, good luck. We need you to. We need you to coordinate.

[A]

Yeah, let's wrangle those two. I would love. Yeah, we found a new bit. You know, we haven't had any callers mad at other callers yet. I know.

[B]

I like this.

[A]

Yeah, it's real good.

[B]

I feel like we're kind of, you know, we're like the pie. The. The bar podcast belly version of Jerry Springer right now.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Someone throwing bar stools. That would be great.

[A]

That would be. That would be real cool. We should do that.

[B]

So if anyone else has beef with collars that we've currently had, we'd love to.

[A]

Or we could, like, reveal a paternity test.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I would love. I would love to reveal paternity test. So, yeah, if you have any of that stuff, call the bellied up hotline. What's the bellied up hotline? 2. 1.

[A]

We should be shouting out the bellied up hotline.

[B]

218-303-5095. All right, 218-30350, 9595. Call the bellyed up hotline. Leave a voicemail. We want to hear your stuff. We want to get you on the bellied up podcast.

[A]

Sure do.

[B]

Should we take another caller?

[A]

Let's do it.

[B]

Charlie. Miles, what's the. Everyone knows this about you. What's the number one thing you hate in the entire world?

[A]

Sun in my eyes.

[B]

Glare.

[A]

Glare. I'm not a glare guy.

[B]

No, no, you hate it. I actually think we were walking through the woods the other day, and you're like, you know what I hate, Miles? Glare.

[A]

I was like, where are my Shady rays?

[B]

I know that's what I said to you.

[A]

I said, miles, I got glare in the eyes where. Which I despise. What a better day if I had my Shady Ray. And I said that. Exactly.

[B]

And it's true. And, guys, Shady Rays has polarized lenses that absolutely cut glare hard.

[A]

They're just like, slicing and dicing.

[B]

Not only they cut glare, they're super clear optics. They have durable frames with solid hinges. You know what? You know, it rhymes with orange porridge. Door hinge.

[A]

Door hinge. Nice.

[B]

They got clean, classic styles that look sharp without trying too hard. So if you guys want to look cool like Charlie and I, if you want to cut the glare, if you want some clear optics, you got to go to shadyrays.com use code bellied up for 40% off. Two pairs of Polaroid glasses. They're giving them away.

[A]

Almost insane price point.

[B]

So get geared up for the summer and cut the glare like Charlie.

[A]

Cut the glare. Get yourself some shady, Shady rays.

[B]

All right, folks. Go ahead, Charlie.

[A]

I was just gonna say, Miles, that we got our buddy Russell Nicolai sitting right here next to us.

[B]

What's up, fellas? We're just chilling. What about you?

[E]

Just chilling at the bar. Bellied up to the bar with you folks.

[A]

Hey, Russell, have you ever walked out of a bar on a cold winter's day, found out that the sidewalk outside the bar was slippy? Went ass over tea kettle and bonked your head? Think you might have gotten a concussion? Didn't know what to do, and you're like, what do I do? And you're like, I call myself. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Have you ever had a conversation with yourself over the phone about a potential injury?

[E]

Yeah. It's kind of weird when you're, like, asking the question, then you're answering it, but it works. But, yeah, usually if I. If I were to get injured. So there's like this old saying that the lawyer who represents himself as a

[A]

fool for a lawyer.

[E]

Something like that.

[B]

Basically, you're a. Yeah.

[E]

You surely shouldn't represent yourself and I.

[B]

So.

[E]

Not on injury cases, but other stuff in the past I have, and it. It never. It's always better, in my opinion, to get a lawyer, even if it's like one of your buddies, because they're more objective and they're like, you know, don't. You know, versus you using your emotion and. And just personal thoughts on it. So.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I think it's always helpful. I mean, fortunately for me, like, once I went to law school, became a lawyer, then my younger brother. Both my younger brothers followed me, became lawyers. So I could just really hire one of my brothers. Yeah, a lot of other good lawyers, too. So I would probably just one of them if I were to get injured, you know, walking out of the hospital.

[B]

Your brother, to do a pro bono. It's all good.

[E]

Yeah. I mean, he would have to actually. He'd probably be like, here's your bill.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll be like, I owe you. Yeah, you gotta have one with a tab open on, don't you?

[E]

Yeah, well, you know how brothers are, right?

[A]

Like, you.

[B]

You always.

[E]

You know each other's stuff, and sometimes you remember, sometimes you don't. Sometimes they remind you all the time.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Gansey a bill. You just put them in a headlock. Yeah.

[E]

Hold it against you for your life.

[A]

Chokehold.

[E]

Put you in a chokehold.

[A]

Tap her out.

[B]

I found out what the Baron's family greeting is yesterday at Charlie's office. What's that? His brother just walked up to him and pretended to kick him in the nuts. And then Charlie did it back to him. And I was like, that was the family. That was the family Barons greeting.

[E]

Is that. Was that John?

[A]

Yeah. John. Yeah, we. We kind of. We grew up rough housing, you know, and then.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, if you throw a ball around me, I'll flinch. That's how, you know what kind of household I grew up in. Yeah. But, yeah, that. We do that. Your brothers greet with a little sack tap ever?

[E]

No, it's. It's weird. Like, we. We generally don't do that, but my kids, like, that's what I was trying to figure out. Like, what. What am I raising? Because they're. They rough house, like, and they just attack each other all the time. And then I was. So, I guess, you know, that's how the Barron's family did it.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And my. My kids, six boys, they. They, like, literally, they're all the time throwing stuff. Like, we were just. When I was telling you we were up snowboarding boys, the first thing they do is they get in the pool. It's freezing cold, right? We're trying to get in the pool and stay warm. One of them throws a ball and hits the other in the eye. Like, dude, you just got in the pool.

[D]

So, like, to your point, that's.

[E]

That's what they do.

[A]

Wow. You took six boys snowboarding.

[B]

Any girls?

[E]

Well, my wife came, but yeah, she.

[B]

No, but do you just have any girls? Oh, God. Wow.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Well, I mean, you got a basketball team and a six, man. Like, let's go.

[A]

Does everyone say, your poor wife?

[E]

They do.

[B]

Or they're like, are you guys gonna have another.

[E]

You looking for a.

[A]

Get ready for a girl?

[E]

Are you trying for a girl? It's like, we tried that.

[D]

I mean.

[A]

Yeah, I got six boys, bro, so it's always a pleasure, though. It really is, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Thanks for having me, guys.

[A]

I appreciate it, guys.

[B]

Go to nicolaylaw.com or call 1-855-NICOLET and get a hold of Russell and his.

[A]

All right, before we take another caller, we're gonna give two other cards to ask this next caller.

[B]

Miles, let's exchange the cards.

[A]

Okay. First, Miles, you gave me the card. Are you missing anyone right now? Do you think they are missing you, too? If this turns into somebody's dead grandpa, dude, that was unbelievable.

[B]

I forgot about that. Why would you bring that up? Why would you talk. He doesn't want to talk about that.

[A]

I wanted to immediately tell him we were playing the game.

[B]

No, we forge on.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Mine is, what can we create together? Yeah. At least, like, yours is a natural question. Like, maybe so would get asked. No one would ask that.

[A]

Yeah, I want.

[B]

This is like, if you go to, like, a. A marketing conference or like, a sales conference, they would be like, don't ask them what you can do for them. Ask them what we can create together.

[A]

And, you know, someone's playing this game with their, like, girlfriend. They're like a baby, you know?

[B]

Thomas.

[C]

Hey.

[D]

What's going on?

[B]

Talking to Thomas.

[C]

Yes, you are.

[B]

Charlie and Miles from the Bellied up podcast. How we doing?

[C]

Pretty good. How are you guys?

[A]

Good. How's the concrete business going these days for you, Thomas?

[C]

Busier than.

[B]

That's good news.

[A]

Very good.

[C]

Yeah, can't complain about that.

[B]

Where are you doing concrete at? Where? What part of the country?

[C]

Metro Milwaukee area, so in Charlie's neck of the woods.

[A]

No kidding. All right. Yeah. Real good.

[B]

Okay. Any mob affiliation or.

[C]

Not yet. I mean, if somebody's offering.

[B]

Hey, okay. This is good. It's kind of like buy seller trade. You're looking to buy a connection to the mobile.

[A]

What does a body do to the structural integrity of concrete of a baseball stadium? Yeah.

[C]

It's cool to be on with you guys. Thanks for calling.

[A]

They do say that. What's his name? It was under County Stadium. The Teamster guy. What's his name? The mob guy? Jimmy Hoffa. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, that's what I was referring.

[A]

Oh, that's what you were referring to?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't know you knew. That piece of Milwaukee history loves spewing

[B]

useless knowledge at me when we drive into Milwaukee.

[A]

That's not useless.

[B]

It did. Use it just now.

[A]

All right. Damn it, Jake Thomas. What's on your mind, my guy?

[C]

Well, I just thought. I just thought Miles and I kind of had a lot in common, so I don't know. I don't know if Jared played you guys the voicemail, but. So I recently just had a kid and named him Miles.

[B]

Oh, my.

[C]

And so, yeah, I mean, we're, you know, eating us. So now he's got a dad who's a concrete guy. And. Miles, I don't know if your dad was a football coach, but I'm also a football coach.

[B]

No, he wasn't a football coach, but.

[C]

No, I wasn't a coach, but.

[B]

All right. No, he was my baseball coach. He was my baseball coach for a few years.

[A]

Wow. Okay, so you got a lot in common with Miles's dad here. You both named your son Miles. You both own a concrete company.

[B]

Your kid's gonna spend his whole life trying to get his approval. Get your approval.

[A]

Did you spell Miles with a Y or an I?

[C]

No, it's with an I.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[B]

You pussed out, dude. Come on. Yeah.

[C]

You on our way. On our way to the hospital, my wife asked me because she was talking. She's like, if I. She's like, if I gotta go under for something, she's like, how are we gonna spell these names? And I. I definitely botched it. I definitely spelled it with a Y, and that's not what you wanted.

[A]

Ah, okay.

[D]

So she.

[A]

She said no to the wall.

[B]

Okay, that's fine. If you got vetoed, I'm cool with that.

[C]

Yeah, no, no, this is. I had no power here.

[A]

Well, that's great. Well, Thomas Bellion up to the bar and tell us a little bit about what.

[B]

Yeah. What kind of concrete are you doing? You doing mostly commercial residential flat work. Pouring basements. What are we talking?

[C]

I am. I am all residential flat work in basements about every other day. Nice.

[B]

Nice basement floors, then.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[A]

Which house are you most proud of?

[C]

Oh, I don't know. There's. Oh, you might. You might actually seen the. The reel on Instagram. If you scroll through, there's a. There's a giant. There's a giant mansion that somebody built on an Okachi Lake that just kind of sticks out like a sore thumb. I poured all the inside Work at that house. Wow.

[B]

You are famous.

[A]

He's rolling in it. An Okachi. How did it feel to pour a swingers basement?

[C]

Oh, man, that. That guy. That guy is something else. So just leave it at that.

[A]

I don't even know who it is. I just know it's on Okachi Lake and that's where you go to party.

[B]

Were there some extra rooms in the basement that you had to account for?

[C]

Yeah, it just said. Well, normally. I mean, normally it takes one day to pour a basement floor. This one took four, so.

[A]

Yeah, you got that eyes Wide shut room down there.

[C]

Yeah, I mean it's. I didn't. I almost had to pour a tunnel for somebody up in Fond du Lac. That was fun.

[A]

No kidding. What do you mean almost had to pour a tunnel? He.

[C]

He scrapped the project after it already.

[A]

He.

[D]

We.

[C]

We bit everything out and then he scrapped the scrap project.

[A]

Where was the tunnel going to?

[C]

Well, the guest house.

[A]

Ah, yeah.

[C]

Yeah. These. These people. These people got a little bit of money.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In Fond du Lac.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. He. His place is on the. Well, yeah, it's on the south southeast side. And you can see pretty much all of Fond du Lac from this back. From his back porch, he's kind of up on a bluff.

[A]

Oh yeah, they got the. The hill land over there, huh? Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Not. Not many guys can see all of Fond du Lac from their.

[B]

So, Thomas, how'd you get into the concrete game?

[C]

So I'm actually third generation. My. My grandpa started it back in the 80s and then my dad took it over and now I got it.

[B]

Okay, so here's a question for you. Notorious family business Gen3. Gen3 fucks it up and. And go out of business. Are you nervous about that?

[C]

I mean, it's crossed my mind. It's in the back of there. We're gonna do everything to, you know, not buck it up. Up. But.

[B]

So, but iOS.

[C]

I'm doing one on Wednesday.

[B]

Let's go. What kind of stamp are we talking?

[C]

It's the. The herringbone pattern.

[B]

Oh, wow. Like wood plank herringbone or. Or. Yeah.

[A]

What's your least favorite concrete job?

[C]

Oh, least favorite. If there's multiple levels on a single slab. Like if, like if somebody like puts multiple steps on like a single slab going out the back. That's. That's annoying. So it looks cool when it's done, but it just takes. It's a lot of work for not a lot of. Not a lot of reward.

[A]

Do you charge extra for it just for the nuisance fee? Well, of Course, Charlie. Yeah.

[C]

Well, Charlie, did you get out. Did you get out fishing this last weekend?

[A]

Yeah, my dad got a 26 inch walleye. Can you believe that?

[C]

We got you beat by one inch, my friend.

[A]

Shut up.

[B]

Story of Chuck's life.

[A]

Come on now. Where were you?

[C]

Yeah, let's see. Do you know where the. You know where the big old plane flowage is?

[A]

Yeah, the big old plain flowage?

[C]

Yep. It's in between Marshfield and Wausau.

[A]

Oh, I've never. I've never fished over there.

[B]

You notice how. You asked Charlie? You asked Charlie? I was fishing wet and he said what his dad caught.

[A]

Oh, I caught a lot of walleyes. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[D]

I mean, if I'm.

[C]

If I'm being honest, I was not the fellow who caught the 27 incher, but I was. I was present for it.

[A]

Yeah, I'm just bragging about someone else's fish. That's how my weekend went. But I did catch a decent amount of walleyes, but not. Not too. Probably. Biggest one was 15, which, honestly. Okay, I'm okay with that. Yeah, it's not.

[C]

That's not a bad day. So, yeah, I think we. I think we hauled in like right around 30 total. Not keepers obviously, but caught about 30 of them on Saturday.

[A]

How many did you clean?

[C]

I think like four. We kept only.

[A]

I cut my. I cut my finger cleaning fish. See that?

[C]

Oh, a little.

[A]

Little poke there. That's okay.

[C]

It's got it. You got to be careful.

[A]

I know. Knives are sharp. Do you know that, Miles?

[B]

I do. Well, Thomas, what do you think? What? What do you think we can create together, you and I?

[C]

What do you think we could create?

[B]

Yeah. Out of concrete?

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

I don't know. What's your. Have you ever. You ever. You've read concrete dreams, Miles?

[B]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

What's your.

[C]

What's your. What's your wildest concrete dream?

[B]

I. I like. My current concrete dream is Charlie's been bitching about his deck falling apart. And it's taken every bone in my body to not suggest he put up a little retaining. Concrete retaining wall and pour a slab.

[A]

I knew you were gon just a slab, but hey.

[B]

But I didn't, right? No, because I knew you're gonna be like, I don't want that shit. Oh, back here. This is one with nature.

[A]

And I put a slab right there. Miles, the reason I'm not putting them here is the freaking slabs are expensive. No, I'm putting they. Where they put the footers. They didn't put any footers because they. It's right where you put the footer is where two trees are. So they. And it's pretty critical part of the deck, I would say. So now what I've decided, because I had a bunch of my dad's friends over here all, like, looking at it, and they were all trying to determine the best thing for it, you know, and when dads get together, start determining things, we came up with a solution that may work.

[C]

That just means they care about you. If they. If they're staying in your backyard trying to figure out a project, it means they care about you.

[A]

They do care. And honestly, I like what they came up with.

[B]

Or they just don't want to go home to their wives. You never know what the old guys.

[A]

Yeah, you never do. No, I mean, this is a log. A log situation. A lot of the log guys, they don't always. It's kind of good for as long as the log lasts, you know? So, you know, we get.

[C]

We can make some concrete look like logs.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Wow. Maybe that's what you guys can create together there.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, we got just. It's just a giant wood plank stamp. Get some brown. Get some brown concrete in there.

[A]

Some.

[C]

With some. With some. With some stamp or with some release.

[B]

Dark release.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Make it look. Make it look real snazzy.

[A]

What's your.

[C]

We'll get you a pair of concrete boots and get you in there. Charlie.

[A]

Yeah, I would like to see.

[B]

Or Charlie doing that.

[A]

I like that. I. What. What's your. What's your footer method?

[C]

What's my footer method?

[B]

Sauna tube or what?

[C]

Oh, yeah, I would probably. Yeah. Probably use some sauna tubes. Always. You just. I don't always.

[B]

Does it.

[C]

Does it have to be kind of up and does it have to be up in the air? Can we do some steps out the door and just go right on the. Right on the ground?

[A]

I thought you didn't want to do steps.

[C]

Well, I mean, I said I didn't like them. It doesn't mean I can't.

[A]

No, I got the tube. I'm. I'm going tube, tube method, but yeah. I didn't know if you had some, like, favorite way to do it or whatever.

[C]

Oh, no, no, no.

[D]

Favorite one.

[C]

Well, the easiest one is my favorite.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, you and me both. See, look. Look at that. So, you guys, what are we creating together? I forget where we end up.

[B]

We're making you a new. New patio.

[A]

Oh, that's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We're Going to make you a deck. I don't know. Judging from the condition of your. Of the house that I've. That I've heard, it sounds like you might need a driveway too.

[A]

What? Who was talking smack about my driveway? And I.

[C]

Nobody about the driveway. I just. I mean you said it. I heard you say on one episode your house is a piece of crap.

[D]

So.

[A]

No. Oh, the duplex. Well, there are. There were a lot of problems with the duplex. I put a lot of energy into that. You know, you don't always know what you're buying until it's too late.

[B]

Or you could just do your due diligence.

[A]

I had a friggin inspector there, Miles. They missed quite a bit, everyone.

[B]

Did you bring your dad there? Did he walk through it?

[A]

Yeah, after the fact.

[B]

I know, that's your problem. You gotta bring your dad in before they see that inspectors never will.

[A]

My, you know how hard it is to buy anything. You gotta like make an offer as you're leaving the place, you know, not as much nowadays. Well, when. Back when I bought this. Yeah. And I was living in my sister's basement, so I was desperate, but.

[B]

Yeah, your realtor's wet dream divorced guy living in his sister's basement.

[A]

Actually I had to be out so I really needed.

[B]

Being evicted by his sister.

[A]

My sister, I tell you this, she was so pissed at me that I wasn't getting my stuff out of her basement, she moved all of it to the front lawn. Oh my. She threw stuff out the window the way my dad. If we didn't clean our rooms, he'd open the window and throw the shit out the window. That's what she did to me. And she wouldn't even come downstairs. She just yelled at me from the top and she said, I told you, that's crazy.

[B]

You guys are kind of a Jerry Springer family. A little bit.

[A]

A little bit? Dude, all my. The worst part is nobody stole any of my stuff.

[B]

Why would they want your stuff? I've seen your stuff.

[A]

That's exactly the thing.

[B]

Charlie's prize possession in this cabin are these little owl wood figurines.

[A]

It's a cool owl, dude.

[B]

No one's going to steal those, I promise.

[A]

Well, those were not sitting in the front lawn. But I guarantee you that owl right there, that one would have been stolen. I'm going to show it to you after. And the soproc one. Anyways here I do. I was curious though. Are you missing anyone right now? And do you think they're missing you too?

[B]

I don't Know.

[C]

I mean, I was. No, not really. I don't think so. I mean, I'm on the way to pick up my son from daycare, but

[A]

I think Miles might be missing you.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah, he might be. I don't know if he knows quite who I am yet. Yet, because I don't. I don't have anything he wants, so.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

There you go. You're talking the milk.

[B]

How old is he?

[C]

Two months.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You still got goo on him.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Fresh. Fresh. Freshly out of there.

[A]

What's it like being a new dad?

[C]

It's pretty wild. Especially didn't. It didn't get any time off. Had to go right to work, so. Think we got home from the hospital on Sunday. I went to work on Monday. It was awesome.

[A]

There you go. So you're not giving yourself any paternity leave, huh?

[C]

No, no, there's. There's none of that. Not. Not with our side of the company. So.

[A]

Yeah, we're just.

[C]

We're just. We're just small guys, so. Yeah. Got about six. Six guys.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

Yeah. Well, if you really wanted it, I think you know a guy to make it happen.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So when the boss is good.

[C]

Well, hopefully they don't play too much. I'm paying them.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. That is true. Like how he finished it there, too.

[B]

I got a question for you.

[C]

Go for it.

[B]

I want you to tell me if you've ever done these. You're the boss.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Tell me if you've ever done these moves. Have you ever.

[A]

All right.

[B]

Have you ever made your guys do some shit that you knew that they were going to hate and that it was just like. Even you're like, God, I would hate to do this, but we got to do it and they're going to hate me for it. At the end of the day, do you show up with either ice cream bars or a case of beer to smooth it over with them?

[C]

I've definitely. I've definitely smoothed things over with not necessarily beer, because my builders don't like that. But the case. Case of monster goes over, goes real far.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

That is the. The blue collar equivalent to a corporate pizza party. Thank you. Thank you for sacrificing your soul to us. Here's a pizza party. Thank you for breaking your back for us. Here's a couple beers.

[A]

Here's some liquid cocaine. Which flavor did you get them?

[C]

They're. They're regular. Regular guys.

[B]

Oh, wow. You got some real concrete guys. They're drinking diesels oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Just. Just the straight black. Well, I think they got the black ops can still.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Those guys probably aren't even zinning. They're probably still doing cigarettes. God dang.

[C]

Actually, we don't. We don't have a single smoker on our crew.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

What are they chewing?

[C]

Oh, well, that. That. I don't care. As long as it stays in there, I don't care. But. Oh, I'll tell you this. We had a. I had to work a Saturday a few weeks back, and a couple of the guys like to go out and party, and we. They had just gotten paid on Friday, so I had to give some incentive to show up on Saturday, so I offered them a case of beer just to. Just to show up on Saturday. And they were there. The two guys that normally don't show up were there 45 minutes early because

[A]

they never went to bed. They're waiting to fix that hangover.

[C]

Yeah, they definitely weren't. They definitely weren't the greatest that day, but they were there every time that.

[B]

In college, when my dad knew that we went out the night before and we'd show up a little late, he'd always. We always knew we were in trouble because he'd have his nail belt on and he would be in the hole doing the work that we were supposed to be doing.

[A]

And then, you know.

[C]

Then you know you screwed up.

[B]

Yeah. And then he'd hover over you and watch every detail, make you redo shit that didn't need to be redone. Sucked. And you're hungover.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I've been there.

[A]

One day you'll get to do that with young fourth generation. Miles. Yeah. Are you gonna push the concrete? Oh, go ahead.

[C]

Oh, Miles, what was that one thing that your dad came home and just like, it was like, required for the job and. But it was just a simple task that he didn't want to do. So he told you was like, yo, kids to do it.

[B]

Like, when I was a kid, what I had to help him with. Yeah, I. I remember I'd have to put stamps on his letters because back then you had to like, lick the stamps. He didn't like doing that. He also would make me help him stake out lots and I'd have to carry the stakes around behind him and then also hold his tapes for them.

[C]

You're just trips in behind him all Saturday.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You're like his tool belt.

[B]

Honestly,

[A]

that's great.

[C]

I knew that tackle box name came from somewhere.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Tackle box. That's basically What? It was at that point.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's fun stuff.

[B]

Well, dude, we appreciate you calling in. We appreciate talking to you. This is great.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And congrats on little baby Miles.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Sounds like a good kid. Everything I've heard about him, he's a good kid.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Yep. He might be on the podcast scene in about 20 years.

[B]

There we go.

[C]

So. All right, thanks, guys. Have a good day.

[A]

You be good. We'll see you soon. That's cute, Miles. Got a kid named after you?

[B]

Yeah. You a little bit jealous?

[A]

Pretty jealous.

[B]

And we're kind of flirting there for a while.

[A]

Yeah, I was just, like. I was, like, cucking over here, you know, I felt like I was in that Oconomowoc basement. Okachi Lake basement. Just. Yeah, that's all right. I've heard of the Mansion on Okachi Lake. Heard of that. He must be a pretty big deal.

[B]

Yeah. But he's only got a crew of six, so that definitely was quite the project for him. Must have really beat everyone on the bid. Yeah, that must have undercut everyone,

[A]

man. Oh, you got voice.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

All right.

[B]

James. James.

[C]

Hi, Miles, Charlie, and Jared. My name is James. I am 23, and this is my girlfriend, Katie, also 23.

[A]

Hi, I'm Katie.

[C]

This is. This is more so for Miles, and you betcha. But we recently watched the movie Fargo, and my girlfriend, Katie from Mississippi does the voice really well. Go ahead and tell him. Oh, yeah, you betcha.

[B]

Wow. Really good.

[C]

Wow, she's pretty good at it.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[C]

Okay, thanks. Bye.

[B]

I like that.

[A]

That was great.

[B]

That was good, Katie. Good job.

[A]

From Mississippi, too. I mean, that took some skill.

[C]

I like that she did it.

[D]

And then he's just like, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I wonder if, like, down there in Mississippi, the northern accent kind of turns them on sort of, you know, a little bit. You know, like, it's exotic.

[B]

You know, I would confidently say, I don't think there's anyone in the world that goes, wow, the Midwestern accent is just sexy.

[A]

Oh, there's a lot of people that think it's sexy, Miles.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah, they're out there.

[B]

I bet if they pulled the United States and said, which is the least sexy accent? It would probably be Midwestern. Even Minnesota specifically.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know that that kind of.

[B]

Well, this is great. If anyone is out there who isn't from the Midwest who thinks the Midwestern accent is sexy, we'd love to talk to you.

[A]

Give the number. What is it?

[B]

It 2, 1.830-35-095.

[A]

Look at the brain on Miles. Oh, it's time to open our card.

[B]

Miles, this is the final card. The final card.

[A]

Oh, it comes with a piece of paper.

[B]

Oh, God. What the. What the is this game?

[A]

All right, the final card. You want me to do the honors? Miles, this. I'm going to do it. Okay. Each player write a message to the other. Fold and exchange open only once you two have parted.

[B]

Okay, so we'll read it. One of us will go in the other room and you can read it.

[A]

Okay. All right. Okay.

[B]

All right, folks. Is that it on this episode? Jared? All right, we're gonna. We're gonna end the episode. Charlie and I are doing the final card.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Okay. And then you give me my. You give me that.

[B]

No, no, no. You don't get to look at it till you come back. Charlie's. Charlie's gonna go in the other room. I'm gonna read it. Right. Here we go. Dear Miles, thank you for what you brought to the Bellied up podcast today. Mine. Okay.

[C]

All right.

[B]

I'm so glad he's going second. Thank you for what you brought to the Bellied up podcast today. You inspired the masses yet again. Some so me. Tom even named his spawn after you. You're a friend to everyone. I'm not joshing. You get it. Let's create something together. Also, want to change my air filter or. No. Your pal Charlie tip your bartender you cheap. That's me. Okay. Wow, that was. That was actually really nice. I am slightly regretting my message, but.

[C]

Yeah, you go over there. So you guys don't, like, interact with each other?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll go. I'll go. I'll go outside.

[C]

I'll go.

[A]

To Charlie the smiler from Miles. Dear Charles, if you're reading this, I'm probably dead. Just know I'm doing okay. I left some cash under the mattress for you to finally get that penis enlargement surgery. Thank you, Miles. I know you desperately needed it. Happy stroking. Love, Miles. That Miles.

[C]

He's behind you,

[A]

Miles. Stop projecting your penis stuff onto your body. You can't hear me. I'm gonna go hit him in the deck. I wrote you a heartfelt message, Miles.

[C]

Change my air filter.

[A]

Yeah,

[C]

okay.

[B]

Hope you guys have a good one.

[C]

Goodbye now.

[A]

Toodaloo.