Secrets Your Mechanic Won't Tell You #157

Summary

Bellied Up Podcast Episode Summary: "Secrets Your Mechanic Won't Tell You #157"

Release Date: June 26, 2025
Hosts: You Betcha Guy (Myles) & Emmy-Winning Comedian Charlie Berens
Podcast Description: Join Charlie and Myles every Thursday at a cozy small-town bar as they engage with live callers from the Midwest and beyond. Whether you have a problem to solve or something to sell, there's a spot for you at the bar. Follow their Instagram @bellieduppod for call-in times and updates.

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1. Exciting Announcement: First Live Show in Chicago (00:00 - 05:44)

The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic announcement from Charlie and Myles about their first-ever live show, scheduled for July 8th at Zany's Chicago. The hosts express their excitement and briefly discuss the logistics, emphasizing that attendees can submit topics via a QR code displayed at the venue. They highlight that the live show will include interactive segments where audience members can join them on stage to discuss their topics.

Notable Quote:

• Charlie (00:11): "Myles and I are nominated for a Tony Award. Oh. Oh, that wasn't it."
• Myles (02:00): "We'll see."

2. Live Show Logistics and Expectations (05:44 - 15:49)

Charlie and Myles delve into the details of what attendees can expect at the live event. They explain the process of submitting questions or topics through the QR code, which allows the hosts to curate and select the most engaging submissions. The duo humorously discuss potential challenges and the experimental nature of piloting their live format, ensuring attendees that the event will be both fun and interactive.

Notable Quote:

• Myles (02:02): "It's going to be our first show. We'll be working out the kinks."
• Charlie (03:07): "To bring that heat."

3. Interactive Therapy Session with Paige (07:21 - 32:49)

A significant portion of the episode features a comedic yet insightful interaction with Paige, their resident therapist. The segment begins with a playful debate about whether Paige is conducting a therapy session or an intervention. Charlie and Myles engage in a mock therapy session, humorously portraying the dynamics of their relationship. They discuss topics like anxiety, OCD, and the challenges of maintaining a relationship with differing personalities.

Notable Quotes:

• Paige (08:21): "Well, it sounds like your relationship's going very well. You like cats now?"
• Charlie (16:01): "What’s the most annoying thing a patient does?"
• Myles (24:07): "Is that a safe space? Can I talk? Or are you starting to see some of the things that I'm dealing with."

The conversation touches on themes of self-love, communication, and understanding each other's needs, all delivered with the hosts' signature humor. They end the segment on a light-hearted note, acknowledging the therapeutic insights Paige provided while maintaining the comedic essence of the show.

4. Mechanic's Tales with Joe from Jiffy Lube (34:37 - 60:55)

The episode transitions to a lively discussion with Joe, a mechanic from Jiffy Lube, who shares his experiences handling customer issues and the quirks of working in the automotive repair industry. Joe recounts stories about difficult repairs, unusual customer requests, and the challenges of maintaining quality service under time constraints.

Notable Quotes:

• Joe (36:25): "We got a lot of people's problems that you don't want to deal with."
• Charlie (39:16): "How much did you charge him for that little rewiring?"
• Joe (44:30): "All I know is that unscrew me easy. I don't need you breaking those things."

The hosts and Joe engage in humorous banter about the intricacies of automotive repairs, the cost of services, and the everyday challenges faced by mechanics. They also playfully discuss the concept of "twisting wrenches and kissing babies," blending technical discussions with lighthearted comedy.

5. Construction Olympics and Final Banter (60:55 - 69:47)

In the latter part of the episode, Charlie and Myles brainstorm creative and humorous ideas for the "Construction Worker Olympics," imagining events that blend construction tasks with competitive sports. Their playful imagination leads to fictional events like "nail gun pentathlon" and "scaffolding challenges," highlighting their ability to infuse humor into everyday professions.

Notable Quotes:

• Myles (62:12): "One of the events are going to be shooting a nail gun at, like, soda can pop."
• Charlie (65:23): "Construction Worker Olympics. Oh."

The episode concludes with shout-outs to their current location at CJ's Tavern in Fargo, North Dakota, inviting listeners to visit and enjoy a drink. The hosts maintain their comedic rapport, wrapping up the episode with jokes about their interactions with callers and teasing future episodes.

Notable Quote:

• Charlie (69:16): "We're at CJ's Tavern here in Fargo, North Dakota. They're on a golf course, so if you go hit the links, it's just the Rosebud Golf course."

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Conclusion

Episode #157 of the Bellied Up podcast delivers a blend of heartfelt interactions and relentless humor. From announcing their first live show to engaging in mock therapy sessions and sharing mechanic tales, Charlie and Myles ensure their listeners are entertained while providing insights into various professions. Whether you're a regular listener or new to the podcast, this episode offers a rich mix of comedy, relatable conversations, and behind-the-scenes anecdotes that capture the essence of bellying up to the bar with friends.

Join Charlie and Myles every Thursday at CJ's Tavern or follow them on Instagram to stay updated on live shows and more!

Transcript

[Charlie]

Guys, hey, here we are. Bellied up podcast. Take 12. It's me and Miles. I don't know why I said that. I don't know why I say anything, Miles. I'm just excited today. You know why?

[Miles]

Why?

[Charlie]

Because we are announcing very big announcement.

[Miles]

Very big announcement.

[Charlie]

And this announcement is so big, it's going to blow you guys away. Miles and I are nominated for a Tony Award. Oh. Oh, that wasn't it. Hang on, hang on.

[Miles]

It's not true.

[Charlie]

Let me read the other side of this paper. Oh, we're doing our first ever live. Bellied up, ladies and gentlemen.

[Miles]

Bellied up live.

[Charlie]

Bellied up live.

[Miles]

It's not live Bellied up. It's bellied up live.

[Charlie]

Bellied Up It. We'll do it live.

[Miles]

We're doing it live.

[Charlie]

We're doing it.

[Miles]

We're doing live. So, yeah, we finally.

[Charlie]

We did it.

[Miles]

We committed.

[Charlie]

We did a thing.

[Miles]

Whoopsies. We did. I did a thing.

[Charlie]

I did a thing. Zany's Chicago, July 8th. After 4th of July weekend. Don't party too hardy because we're coming into town. You guys better be tailgating it. We want all the fibs coming out. I know, I've been mean.

[Miles]

Yeah. This is not. That's not. This isn't great for show.

[Charlie]

This was convenient.

[Miles]

Basically have gone on like a three year run longer than podcast on this podcast.

[Charlie]

On this podcast alone, three years just on fibs.

[Miles]

And now we're like, hey, fibs. We figured show in Chicago.

[Charlie]

Well, we figure, you know, pope's a fib. Might as well do it with the fibs, you know?

[Miles]

That's true.

[Charlie]

Fibs are holy now. So we're coming. We're coming to town July 8th. We're going to do one show, maybe two. One show, maybe two. Two shows, maybe three. Three show, maybe four. Four. Four. Can I get a five? Five show, maybe six. Six show, maybe seven. Seven. There is seven over there.

[Miles]

For sure. One show for sure.

[Charlie]

One show, possibly two.

[Miles]

We'll see.

[Charlie]

We're piloting it out, guys. You're going to be here for the experimentation side. It's going to get weird in there.

[Miles]

Yeah, let's. Yeah, you remind people that, like, this will be our first show. We'll be working out the kinks.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Set the bar low. Walk right over it.

[Miles]

So what's it going to look like, Charlie? What can they expect if they come to Bellied Up Live?

[Charlie]

You come to bellied up live, you're going to sit down and there's going to be a screen there. There's going to be a screen behind the st. It's going to have a QR code on it. With that QR code, you are going to be able to submit your questions, your buy, sell, and trade your weird things, whatever it is. We'll probably put a prompt above the QR code asking for something specific. It's your opportunity.

[Miles]

Well, yes. So basically, you get into the venue, get into Zany's, you're going to get yourself a drink.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And then you're going to scan the QR code, you're going to submit your topic. And Charlie and I aren't just going to be messing around the green room. No, we're going to be pouring over your topics.

[Charlie]

Going to be. Yeah, we are going to get dialed in.

[Miles]

We're going to get dialed in. We're going to pour over your topics. We're going to pick the ones that we think are the best. So you got to bring some heat.

[Charlie]

To bring that heat.

[Miles]

And once the show starts, at some point, we'll have the people that submitted the topics that we like the best come up on stage and discuss it with us. Just like we are doing bellied up right here today.

[Charlie]

Well, put simpler. You're going to come up on stage and belly up to the bar with us, correct? Right.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

And we're going to.

[Miles]

Whether or not it's a real bar.

[Charlie]

Or it's a table, our budget is limited.

[Miles]

We haven't worked that out yet.

[Charlie]

Well, we haven't worked out the kinks. But it's going to be fun, guys. It's going to be a great time. And also, if you have something you want to buy, sell, or trade, bring it in. Make sure it's not firearm. They don't allow those.

[Miles]

They don't.

[Charlie]

They do not. Yeah. No.

[Miles]

And also, make it small.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Like, don't bring a kayak.

[Charlie]

Yeah. You can bring a grenade. That's been emptied out, though.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie]

Yeah, they sell them at the army.

[Miles]

Repo stores, but make it small, you know, don't be bringing in a, you know, lawnmower.

[Charlie]

Yeah, it's a tight club. Tight club. It actually used to be a strip joint. It is in a day. Yeah. It's a very long, thin club. Ooh, food arrived. Wow, that looks really good. Thank you. That's wonderful.

[Miles]

Thank you.

[Charlie]

Really appreciate you. Oh, gonna eat that after the intro. I'm gonna steal some of your fries, too. I know I got a salad, so I steal Miles fries, but I think.

[Miles]

It'S gonna be fun. This will be my first live show.

[Charlie]

Yeah. But you've been on stage before.

[Miles]

My not on stage, but still first live show, you know.

[Charlie]

Huh. You nervous?

[Miles]

Not really.

[Charlie]

A little bit.

[Miles]

I'm not too nervous about it. A little bit more excited.

[Charlie]

Okay. Yeah.

[Miles]

Excited, nerves, yep.

[Charlie]

Nervousness, just. I forgot I left my wings in your fridge. Damn it. Nervousness oftentimes is just covering up for excitement. Yeah, it's nervous facing excitement. It happens. It happens to all of us.

[Miles]

I think it's going to be fun though.

[Charlie]

Give me a great time. We'll have some other comedians there as well, just to warm you guys up, get you acquainted. We're going to have some fun. It's going to be a great time.

[Miles]

Make sure you get to tailgate beforehand, get some beers going, you know.

[Charlie]

Yeah, exactly. Show will be at like probably seven o' clock, something like that. Yeah, yeah. We haven't fully figured it out yet, but it's going to happen. It's going to be fun. Can't wait to see you guys in Chicago July 8th for the first ever bellied up. Fudge it will do it live.

[Miles]

Fudge it will do it live. Frick it.

[Charlie]

Frick it, we'll do it live.

[Miles]

Frick it, we're doing it live.

[Charlie]

Yeah, we'll do it live.

[Miles]

Ted Zanies, right?

[Charlie]

Zany's.

[Miles]

Yeah, Said just. Yeah, Chicago. Zany's. So Old Town. Well, we'll probably put the link in the description of the episode. So buy tickets.

[Charlie]

Yeah, you click on the link. Pretty self explanatory. Keeping the ticket prices pretty reasonable too.

[Miles]

They may go hot too, so.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Be quick.

[Charlie]

Yeah, they may go quick because it's a hot tick.

[Miles]

Nice. Yeah, that's what's nice. Well, I think we got a good show lined up today, Charlie. We'll take some callers and excited.

[Charlie]

I'm excited to. Me too.

[Miles]

How many is a couple years in the making?

[Charlie]

Oh, we've been talking about this. We've been chit chatting about this, Miles. Yeah. For two years. And finally our laziness took the next step, which was text somebody.

[Miles]

This is kind of my mo. It took me like five years to propose to Ann, you know. Yeah. Actually when I say that, that doesn't sound better. You know, it only took me two years to commit to this. Five years to commit to my.

[Charlie]

Well, this isn't a lifetime commitment, Miles. This is a one night commitment.

[Miles]

True. This is a one night.

[Charlie]

All right.

[Miles]

One night stand. We're gonna have to work on the chemistry though before we get on stage.

[Charlie]

Yeah, we got some work to do.

[Miles]

Time though.

[Charlie]

We'll have to do a little zip, zap, zoom.

[Miles]

Sweet.

[Charlie]

All right, well, we'll see you guys there. And now it's time to take some callers.

[Miles]

Hello.

[Charlie]

Nice for you to call back. Let me guess. Miles is still perfect and Charlie needs to talk to someone like you about his relations. Relationship issues.

[Paige]

Oh, my gosh.

[Charlie]

Haven't forgotten Paige. Yeah, I. You feel bad? Let me tell you, Paige, I feel great. Shut up, Miles. What's on your mind?

[Miles]

Well, so for the folks that don't know, we got Paige on the line. The our resident therapist. This is a bellied update. The last time that Paige was on, she told me that there is nothing emotionally wrong with me. And she said that Charlie might as well just not even try because he's too far gone emotionally, pretty much.

[Charlie]

That's what I remember.

[Paige]

That's definitely not what I said. But you know what? Whatever. However you like to take it. I can't change that for you.

[Charlie]

Let's rewind the tape. Playing it right now. How else do we take that, Paige?

[Paige]

Well, it sounds like your relationship's going very well. You like cats now?

[Charlie]

I do like cats now, yeah. I am so in love with this girl that I actually like cats. Not happy about it, but you know, I like them. I like all of them.

[Miles]

So, Paige, tell me what it means that Charlie's willing to just change his entire stance on life for a woman.

[Paige]

You know what? If it's the right one, I think it's okay. Because he seems happy about it. And if that's the only sacrifice, which I will have to say, she's probably making a lot more sacrifices than he is, considering his line of work.

[Charlie]

Considering my line of work? What do you mean by that?

[Miles]

Paige, you are gone a lot.

[Charlie]

Gone a lot.

[Miles]

Yeah. You're on the road.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Paige]

Do you know what? If you gotta like cats, I mean, that's a worthy sacrifice considering what she's dealing with.

[Charlie]

I suppose that's not unfair. She's busy gal too, though, you know? So we're both busy.

[Joe]

Good.

[Charlie]

Yeah. But she has her cats to keep her company. All four of them.

[Paige]

All four? Are they all sphinxes?

[Charlie]

Two are sphinxes, two of them got Brazilians, and one is a Lykoi, which I don't even know what that is. It's like a little werewolf thing. I think it's. They breed them next to nuclear power plants, and then the other one is a street cat from East Columbus that her dad found in the alley.

[Paige]

Oh, wow. Those are the best kind.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Are they?

[Charlie]

Yeah. So they all have their own personalities. They're not bad. They're not bad. They've grown on me.

[Miles]

Well, considering Charlie needs a lot of work, why don't we open it up and let's start Charlie's therapy session.

[Charlie]

No, that's not what this is, Paige. Is that why you're calling in? To do therapy on us? Don't you have an update about.

[Miles]

Paige and I have been texting, and we're worried about you.

[Charlie]

Oh, no, I'm being. I'm being bamboozled here.

[Paige]

This is not an intervention.

[Miles]

Yeah, it's not an intervention, but we'd like to change your behavior, so.

[Charlie]

What behavior do I have to change?

[Miles]

Just kidding.

[Charlie]

I am.

[Miles]

That's a question for Paige. You know what's. Let's dive into Charlie's.

[Charlie]

All right, Paige, let's.

[Miles]

I'm your.

[Charlie]

I'm your patient right now. What questions do we have?

[Paige]

Oh, my gosh. Well, I will say I only treat anxiety and ocd, so if you've got one of those, I can help any day.

[Charlie]

I got add. Does that count?

[Paige]

ADD is not a thing anymore, Charlie.

[Miles]

Adhd. Yes.

[Charlie]

Why isn't ADD a thing?

[Paige]

It's just all ADHD now. It's all the same.

[Charlie]

Okay. Same. Same church, different pew, same bar, different chair. Okay.

[Paige]

Yeah. Little known fact. Yeah.

[Charlie]

All right, well, anxiety. Okay, maybe I got that, you know.

[Miles]

Once in a while.

[Paige]

Yeah, you probably do. You're a comedian, so.

[Charlie]

Yeah, we.

[Paige]

We all come pretty anxious.

[Charlie]

Yeah, you know, I don't know why. Just happens sometimes. Just got this overall feeling that, you know, some bad's going to happen, some looking out, you know, robots page.

[Paige]

Is that true? Are you lying? Are you serious? Because I can actually help.

[Charlie]

I think robots are going to kill us all.

[Miles]

He is very paranoid about AI, which I get, in a sense, but it's going into territory where I think it is affecting your life.

[Charlie]

Sometimes it was, but I think I'm over it because I've read the Power of Now by Elkhart Tolle that Miles told me to read. And so I just live in the moment now, Paige. It's just you and me here. That's all there is. Something might come after. Something might have come before. It doesn't matter. I'm right here with you. Paige. How are you feeling today?

[Paige]

You're doing it. I'm feeling good. I just have therapy sessions all day. And you know what? It's a good day. And I'm so proud of you because you're literally doing what I teach people in therapy.

[Miles]

The power of now you're a big tolly head.

[Paige]

Oh, heck yeah, dude.

[Miles]

Hell yeah.

[Paige]

Ram Dass. Alan Watts.

[Miles]

What did she say?

[Charlie]

What'd you say?

[Paige]

Ram Dass. He's a spiritual teacher. And Alan Watts. Oh, have you ever heard of him?

[Miles]

I've heard of Alan Watts before.

[Paige]

Amazing.

[Charlie]

I've heard of J.J. watt.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Miles]

He's brother.

[Charlie]

Oh, okay.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Does he play football?

[Miles]

He's like the Jonas Brother that's not musical. He's just like the. The Watt brother that can't play football. Right. Yeah.

[Charlie]

Okay.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Paige, I got a question for you. What's. What's the most annoying thing a patient does? Like, what's your top three pet peeves of a patient?

[Paige]

Really? Yeah, I think. Well, obviously canceling right before an appointment's pretty annoying, but, you know, that happens.

[Charlie]

Done that. Done that.

[Miles]

You still get paid, though, right?

[Charlie]

Yeah. You still get paid, right?

[Paige]

No, I don't.

[Charlie]

Oh, you got it, Paige. Now, let's talk about you.

[Miles]

Let's give her some advice.

[Charlie]

Let's talk about you and your people pleasing skills. All right? Right. You gotta set your boundaries. Okay. If you cancel within 24 hours, you're paying.

[Paige]

You know, it just feels mean as a therapist, but I know a lot of therapists do that.

[Charlie]

Yeah. I'm such a people pleaser that if I cancel anywhere near the 24 hours, I'm like, just keep the fee. Just keep it. It's fine.

[Joe]

Yeah, I know.

[Paige]

I know. But I think the biggest pet peeve I have is when someone comes to see me for therapy and I ask them why they're coming to therapy, and they say, I don't know.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Paige]

And then I'm like, okay, well, because.

[Charlie]

Their wife made them.

[Paige]

I get that a lot.

[Miles]

I get that a lot. Yeah.

[Paige]

But there's always something deeper. If I pry enough, I can figure it out. But at the outset, if I'm very tired that day and someone says that to me, I'm like, God damn it.

[Miles]

Oh, do you do. So you're saying that therapists get hungover as well?

[Paige]

We do. We are also human beings that don't like to go to work most of the time, but we love our job.

[Miles]

You know, it doesn't make me feel great, though, that, like, you know, if you go to therapy and you're, like, knowing that your therapist doesn't even want to be there, it's like a terrible feeling. I mean, you just mailing it in while you're trying. You're like, you're having an existential crisis, and she's just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Y. Sure, sure, sure. I have to. I have to get on this podcast with these guys, so get out of here right now.

[Charlie]

It's. That's when. Well, how does that make you feel? Question comes up.

[Miles]

Just.

[Charlie]

Just.

[Miles]

Just. It just hits the Y button, you know, on the keyboard. Just. Why? Well, why?

[Charlie]

Yeah, why do you think that Socratic method.

[Paige]

No, I think therapists, you know, we have to be really real with our clients. And if I'm having a bad day, I'll just say it straight up, like, I might be opted in, kind of having a rough one, and then we can talk about that, because probably it's in the air. They're having a bad day too.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Yeah. So sometimes you open yourself up. Do you ever find that you get a patient, that client, whatever your. The PC word is. Do you ever find you get one that starts giving you therapy and you kind of.

[Paige]

Oh, no, we call that counter transference. And that's no bueno.

[Charlie]

Ooh, counter transference.

[Miles]

Yeah. Why? Why. Why. Why specifically is it no bueno, which is no good if you don't speak Spanish? Thank you, Miles.

[Paige]

Thank you for the translation. Yeah, it's not good. Because, you know, it's unethical to be seeing a client if they're doing more for you than you are for them. If a client's triggering you in that way, you need to refer them to someone else.

[Charlie]

I see.

[Miles]

Otherwise you turn into a Tony Soprano situation, is what you're saying.

[Charlie]

Have you ever had any gangsters as clients?

[Paige]

I. I don't. Not knowingly.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie]

Oh, not knowingly.

[Miles]

Okay, let me say it differently. Do you. Do you have any clients that were in trucking and they were constantly taking trips to the Cayman Islands?

[Paige]

You know, very specific, Miles. I don't think so.

[Charlie]

Where is Jimmy Hoffa buried?

[Miles]

Where are the bodies, Paige?

[Charlie]

Yeah, we gotta know where the drugs going. Where do. Where do you practice again, Paige? What's. What state? I forget.

[Paige]

In Iowa.

[Charlie]

A lot of farmers.

[Miles]

I have a question for you, Paige. You know, there's a lot of hoopla on the Internet about how basically everyone's problems in life stem back to something with their parents. Do you. Is that actually true, or is that just like the get out of jail free card for therapists and just throw it on the parents?

[Paige]

Well, no, I'm. I think our paths have a lot to do with how we act and navigate the world, but I think in my own therapy, working with anxiety and ocd, I don't tend to dwell on that very much. Because I want to help them here and now. And if we need to dwell up the past and talk about it, fine. But I'm usually not one to go there.

[Charlie]

If I'm trying to go. If I'm trying to go to sleep, page, and I'm like, I get in bed, I'm ready to go. I'm like, ah, I should check the front door, see if that's locked. So I go do that, and I get back in my bed, I should pee one more time. You know, I get back in bed, I'm like, ah, forgot my nose. Strip. You know, I get back in bed, I'm like, ah, forgot my mouse. Strip. Then I get back in bed, I'm like, ah, forgot to take melatonin. Is that ocd?

[Paige]

Well, the question would be is how much distress would it cause if you were kept from going to get the thing you want?

[Charlie]

Well, see, if I didn't check the door, I'd be sitting there thinking for five minutes, should I check the door? And then I start falling asleep. I'm like, no. And then I'm woken up in like 10 minutes because I'm like, I got to check the door. Just save time. Cut to the chase. Go check the door.

[Paige]

You got to check the door more than once.

[Charlie]

I mean, you have.

[Paige]

How many times you checking the door?

[Charlie]

No, I mean, if I remember, sometimes I go check the door and I don't remember if I was locked or not.

[Paige]

Well, if you were checking the door.

[Miles]

It'S like the over five.

[Charlie]

Five times. Okay, okay.

[Miles]

But it's kind of like when you're boarding a plane and you have to check your boarding pass for what seat you are in. 20 times. It's the same scenario.

[Charlie]

I wonder how much of that is OCD and just how bad our memories are. You know, between things like the phones and thc.

[Paige]

What, give you a little masterclass on the difference?

[Charlie]

Yeah, yeah, that would be great.

[Paige]

So there's generalized anxiety or like nervousness.

[Joe]

Right.

[Paige]

And with generalized anxiety, the worries make sense. Like we're worrying about normal everyday things like our boarding pass or if how many people are going to be at an event or where's the parking situation? Right. We're worried about normal things, but the anxiety is over the top. Of what? Helpful.

[Charlie]

What's an example of over the top?

[Paige]

Over the top would be maybe it would keep you from actually going out of your house and going to social events because you're so anxious.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I see. That only happens to me if I get like. If I eat a gummy Bear. And it's too good.

[Paige]

Yeah, well, that's doing drugs. Really?

[Miles]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Charlie]

Sounded a little judgmental, Paige.

[Miles]

That's judgmental.

[Charlie]

I call it a natural healing regiment.

[Paige]

All I'm seeing is everything in moderation is good.

[Charlie]

Everything.

[Paige]

Including Rumpelman.

[Charlie]

Including Rumpelman.

[Paige]

I like compliments. And you guys don't like it. And I took that very personally a few episodes back.

[Charlie]

Well, what does that say about you, Paige, huh?

[Miles]

Let's dive into that. Yeah? Why?

[Paige]

I like some replay in the day. It makes my tummy all nice and warm.

[Charlie]

It does, doesn't it? That nice little cool mintiness.

[Paige]

Tastes like you brushed your teeth.

[Charlie]

Yeah. And you brushed your.

[Paige]

Let me keep going on the difference.

[Charlie]

Sorry, sorry, sorry. Paige.

[Joe]

Yes?

[Charlie]

Focus.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Paige]

I'll keep us on track. So that's generalized anxiety, Right? It's worrying about normal everyday stuff, but it's over the top.

[Miles]

Yep.

[Paige]

But then OCD goes into this cycle of anxiety, of we have an intrusive thought or image that pops in of worrying about something. Let's say there's different themes, but a very common one is like, harm. Like worrying you hit someone with your car or worrying you might not check the lock enough and someone could intrude into your house or kill your dog or something. And then the anxiety goes up because that thought popped in. And then we have a behavior or a compulsion and OTD that we do in order to lower the anxiety. So that would be to drive around the block to check that you didn't hit someone with your car or checking the lock again. And then anxiety goes down, but then we're in that cycle and we just keep doing the same thing over and over again. And that's ocd.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie]

So it needs. It needs.

[Miles]

Yeah, I don't think you got either. I think you just have adhd.

[Charlie]

Thank you.

[Miles]

Well, my diagnosis.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

All right, Page I. We're going to a new segment that I like to call Couples Counseling with Paige. Charlie and I are a couple.

[Charlie]

We've been together for.

[Miles]

Six years. Six years together. Things have been going good, but I feel like Charlie's withholding a little bit from our relationship. And that is why we are in therapy today. So we'd love to dive into it.

[Paige]

Great. Well, what do you think he's withholding? What's the content here?

[Miles]

Just overall energy. You know, I have to plan everything and.

[Charlie]

Oh, you have to plan everything.

[Miles]

Who plans?

[Charlie]

Who planned our bellied up lies?

[Miles]

Is this a safe space? Can I talk? Or are you starting to see some of the things that I'm dealing with.

[Paige]

Let's all take turns here.

[Miles]

Yes, thank you. I'll go now. Is that okay, Charlie?

[Charlie]

Fine. Yeah.

[Miles]

I mean, it's the planning thing. He never remembers when I plan stuff. And then when we're at an activity, it always seems like he's got somewhere else to be. And, like, we shot a video on a bike the other day, and he just rode off for about seven minutes, and we didn't know where he went, and we knew he'd come back, but to do that. And so that's kind of some of the stuff that I've been feeling lately.

[Paige]

So you're feeling the weight of the mental load of the relationship, but you're not really feeling his presence there with you?

[Miles]

Correct. I'd like him to just. I'd like him to see me and not see everything else.

[Charlie]

That's why he's wearing a blaze orange hat today. How does it make me feel, Paige? Frankly, I think Miles forgets every time I am somewhere on time, which is amazing. He forgets it because it doesn't happen very often. It's not a lot to remember. Okay. And I do think sometimes what he has to realize is that my brain is like a dog. Okay? Sometimes you get the dog barking, you know, you get the hounds out, and what do you got to do? You got to take them for a walk. I got to take my brain outside, let piss on a mailbox, and then I come back and I'm ready to go. But Miles just doesn't have a whole lot of patience for my genius.

[Paige]

So what I'm hearing is that we need to work together to better understand what each other's needs are so we can come together and figure out how to work.

[Charlie]

Don't say needs like that.

[Miles]

Trust me, those needs are taken care of. Right, Charlie? Yeah. Yeah. He was wearing biker shorts yesterday. My God, did my calves hook.

[Charlie]

I had my moose knuckle in his face.

[Miles]

I mean, we're talking. He's got a decent moose knuckle on him. He's got a nice.

[Charlie]

This is. This is funnier after you see the sketch.

[Miles]

Yeah, it is. It really is.

[Charlie]

Right. Right now, it's just sound like we're talking.

[Miles]

See, Paige, I just. This is the part of the problem he. I complimented his moose knuckle. He didn't say anything about my truck nuts, and that's just irritating to me.

[Paige]

You're just really not feeling seen at all.

[Miles]

I know, I know.

[Paige]

Important in every way, including witnessing your partner.

[Charlie]

Yeah, well, maybe if your truck nuts were bigger I could feel.

[Paige]

Well, you know what?

[Charlie]

I just.

[Miles]

That is not my fault. That's my parents fault. See, everything stems back to our parents.

[Charlie]

To the French in you.

[Paige]

No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.

[Miles]

So is there anything that we can do to just, you know, be deeper together?

[Paige]

That's a great way to put that. It sounds like Miles needs to love himself more.

[Charlie]

See, that's what I'm talking about. Paige.

[Miles]

She had that teed up firing it last time we talked. Oh, I'm in.

[Joe]

Perfect.

[Miles]

She felt bad because you said I was. You went. She said that I need to love myself. And see, she felt bad. You did your whole little temper tantrum and now she's just doing it to make you feel.

[Charlie]

Miles, I'm on the incline. You're on the decline. Deal with it, buddy. We're on opposite ends of the Venn diagram or whatever. What's the one with the cross?

[Miles]

You know what? I'm starting to. The more Paige talks more she's starting to make sense. Maybe we're just not right for each other.

[Charlie]

Oh, maybe we're not. Well, you know what? Jake can get in here and be your co host.

[Miles]

Yeah, that's fine. Let's see what happens when I leave the equation. You. You're never going to get a podcast done.

[Charlie]

Well, I'll find. I'll find another, you know, find another one of you.

[Miles]

Miles, why don't we just call it Charlie? This is the end of the road. Paige did this. Paige. Paige broke up the Bellied up podcast.

[Charlie]

You think I can't find another bearded guy with a blaze orange hat and a car heart hoodie in the Midwest? Yeah, when you say that, that says stone right? Now just go chase down the next pickup truck that drives by.

[Miles]

Don't go thinking you're irreplaceable.

[Paige]

Oh, my God.

[Miles]

Yeah, this is Paige's fault if we break up, so.

[Paige]

Wow, you guys really are gonna do this to me right now?

[Charlie]

It's been a long day.

[Paige]

At the beginning of this call, I said I treat anxiety and ocd, not couples.

[Miles]

Just passes the buck. Passes the buck. Okay.

[Charlie]

Well, Paige, how's life going for you right now outside of work? You know what's good?

[Paige]

Oh, it's good. I got my necklace. Thank you, guys.

[Charlie]

Oh, you're welcome.

[Paige]

I got my. My paradot. My green necklace for our anniversary. It was a month late on our anniversary, not on my birthday. But you know what? Hey, I take what I can get.

[Miles]

A necklace is a necklace, you know.

[Paige]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Charlie]

Still look pretty.

[Paige]

Yes, He Picked it out himself, I should say. I did not have to pick it out.

[Charlie]

Nice.

[Paige]

He did really good. He listened to your guys's advice.

[Charlie]

That's good. That's good. Did he? Did he listen? Was that the situation?

[Paige]

He did listen.

[Charlie]

Good.

[Paige]

He listened. He really appreciated you guys talking directly to him. I think it got the point across.

[Miles]

That's good. That's what we're here for. And are you wearing the necklace right now?

[Paige]

I am.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Paige]

I never took it out.

[Joe]

Wow.

[Miles]

That is awesome.

[Charlie]

And your skin is not changing color at all.

[Paige]

It's real silver. I would like to report.

[Charlie]

Stainless steel, baby. Or sterling? Sterling.

[Miles]

Stainless steel.

[Charlie]

Is that silver? Stainless silver. Yeah, whatever.

[Miles]

Oh, well, we're happy to talk to you again, Paige. We appreciate it. Glad you helped us work through this. You know, I didn't think this is going to be the last episode, but I guess it is.

[Paige]

Thank you for highlighting the therapy skills.

[Miles]

I don't have the holes in her game.

[Paige]

I love my fellow couple therapists, but I am not one of them.

[Charlie]

Well, just. Paige, you should get into that game. Just imagine the tea you could spill to your husband at dinner.

[Paige]

You know, that's unethical. Charlie.

[Charlie]

Is it your husband? He's not gonna tell anyone. Yeah, but. Well, I'm just saying. You're not using exact names. You're just saying. Okay, I can't say his name, but he lives down the street.

[Miles]

I can't say his name, but he's bald.

[Charlie]

Yeah, he's bald. And you golf with him every Tuesday night.

[Miles]

I can't say his name.

[Paige]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, thank you, guys.

[Charlie]

Well, thank you, Paige. Hey, we're glad that you got that necklace. And I'm glad that you took it easy on me today.

[Paige]

Of course. I'm glad you've forgiven me for my transgressions of being honest.

[Miles]

I don't know what she just said.

[Charlie]

She said, I'm glad you've forgiven me.

[Miles]

No, I heard what she said.

[Charlie]

That was a backhanded thank you is what it was. Wow. All right.

[Miles]

Therapists speak, you know.

[Charlie]

Yeah, that was real. That was a real low blow right at the end here. Paige, I thought we were in a good way, and turns out, right back.

[Paige]

Where we started, it's all perspective.

[Charlie]

Yeah, well, I'll show you my perspective here, and that's that you really screwed the pooch on that last comment. Oh, no, I'm not. I only do that to Miles. Hey there, Miles. All right. Well, Paige, you take care now, all right?

[Paige]

Of course. Until next time.

[Charlie]

Yes. Thank you. For the bellied update. Call back anytime.

[Miles]

Well, we'll give you a call next time. Charlie and I have a real rift that we need to work out. How about that?

[Paige]

Perfect. It's not my specialty, but I'll try.

[Charlie]

That's all we ask.

[Miles]

We'll call back next time one of us develops OCD or generalized anxiety.

[Charlie]

I'm working on it.

[Miles]

Every day I'm getting closer and closer.

[Paige]

Existential crisis coming right up.

[Charlie]

Yep, yep. The old ec. Ed and ec. All right. You take care.

[Paige]

Bye, guys.

[Charlie]

Bye. You're the one with Ed, Miles. I'm the one with ec.

[Miles]

Okay. Thank you for that. Yeah, I'm the one with a kid.

[Charlie]

So I don't know how you got to work once.

[Miles]

I was joking, Charlie.

[Charlie]

I don't think you were, Miles.

[Miles]

No, I was.

[Charlie]

All right.

[Miles]

It's. It's like, you know, an old married couple in the Midwest. They just have done things. They've changed their life in ways to account for their partner's downfalls. Yeah, you've done that with me and I've done that with you.

[Charlie]

We shim it, you know, we're not gonna go back and fix the lane.

[Miles]

Yeah. We're not gonna tear out the doorway. We're just gonna do. Do some shims in the door jam to make sure it's good.

[Charlie]

Yeah, we're not gonna go back and replane the floorboards. Oh, God, no.

[Miles]

Just do it. Just do a hands hands sander in a few spots. Yeah, you're good to go.

[Charlie]

Rock and rol.

[Miles]

Door's sticking, so you just, like, just sand a spot for where the door. Where the door curves on the floor.

[Charlie]

I've done some like that.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

That's all life is.

[Charlie]

Just pop out the hinges and move them up. A scotch, you know, well, and then you're screwed at the top, but I don't matter. Yeah, get out the saw. Nothing a little sawza can't fix.

[Miles]

Miles, should we take another caller? Let's do it, guys. Yeah, Boating season.

[Charlie]

Boats are out on the water.

[Miles]

And Charlie, you know just as many as the rest of us that the boat landing can be a bit of a nightmare.

[Charlie]

I do know just as many as the rest of us. All it can be a nightmare. Sure as shoot can. You know, you get up there at the boat landing and you get the new guy who just got the boat.

[Miles]

You know, just trying to whistle it back.

[Charlie]

Just trying to whistle it back. Trying to, you know, get it. Get it in there quick, you know, because he's got the family standing on.

[Miles]

The dock and then the people are lined up waiting for him. A lot of pressure, all that. And sometimes you find that when you try to back it in, you end up hitting the gas pedal and the still in drive and you hit the car right in front of you.

[Charlie]

And before you know it, you know, there's dogs barking, there's people whistling, babies crying, and you're in a real pickle. Well, you get out there and you find yourself injured, you know, then there's only one person you got to call in that situation. It's not your mom, it's not your dad, it's not your neighbor who knows to back out a boat. No, it's Russell Nicolet. Because he will not only take care of you in that injured prone situation, he will also tell you how to back up your boat properly. He does both. You call 1-855-NICOLET. Russell will answer himself, beard and everything, and he'll tell you how to back out that boat prim and proper. And they'll tell you how to get all that money from those insurance companies.

[Miles]

Prim and prop her.

[Charlie]

Nicolay Law, ladies and gentlemen. Injured get Nicolay. Joe, how are you? It's me, Charlie. I'm here with my buddy Miles. And we are aware that you work over there at the Jiffy Lube, but you're having an existential lube crisis and we'd like to hear about it at a jiffy.

[Joe]

Yeah, nice play on words there. Yeah, appreciate that. That's definitely heart lifting and thanks for having me on first off. But no Jiffy Lube. It's. It's weird, it's different. I thought I was signing up for a pit and just, just let me.

[Charlie]

Jump in there real quick for you, Joe.

[Miles]

Speaker.

[Charlie]

Are you on speakerphone.

[Joe]

There? Let me, let me solve your problem.

[Miles]

Oh, that's. That's so nice.

[Charlie]

What a beautiful voice you have there, Joe.

[Joe]

I'm sorry, this is my freaking Bluetooth, man. It's. That's. Damn, Damn doozy.

[Charlie]

Sometimes we can hear your accent now. You're from down south.

[Joe]

Oh, I was born there. But no, I, I live up in Oregon now. I moved.

[Charlie]

Did you move? Good to know you didn't teleport there.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, you know, I'll get there somewhere. Y.

[Charlie]

Okay. All right.

[Miles]

All right. Well, Jiffy Lube. Joe, what's going on? What. What'd you call in today?

[Joe]

Oh, I just. I just figured I try my shot at, you know, getting on at least, but no Jeffy Lube. No, Jiffy lives a different world, man. It's it's crazy. You got a lot of, a lot of people's problems that you don't want to deal with. But, you know, you're there for a paycheck sometimes and you got to deal with them, you know. And just the other day I had a, had a, had a customer come in because their car wasn't starting. And I just, you know, didn't, didn't do the research like, you know, University of YouTube teaches us and just, you know, didn't look into the problems. And it was just a simple fix how to twist some wires together and she was out the door. And I almost felt bad for charging the lady.

[Charlie]

Wow. What?

[Miles]

It's good to know that you mechanics and Jiffy Lube employees do feel something when you gouge the customers. You know, at least you guys feel it. I know you're not going to do anything about it. You're still going to gouge them. But it's good to know that you're feeling it. That's, that's really helpful.

[Charlie]

Well, actually, and now you, you, you talk about this problem. What was the problem? That you just had to twist some wires together? Because that kind of sounds like hot wiring a car right now.

[Joe]

Well, yes and no. I solved the problem obviously responsibly by buying the right part, but the inertia switch went out and the previous owner or someone, I don't know must have spliced the wires together before or something because there was no inertia switch and that's a fuel shut off issue. So I will be told I don't know how they drove it in hot water.

[Charlie]

Yeah. How much did you charge him for that little rewiring?

[Joe]

God, it was, gee, it was there for a while. So we had to do a diag, you know, throw it up on the lift and you know, you know, start charging hours on that. And once it wasn't, you know, under the car, we would drop it and you know, start moving in the car. That's probably another hour or so. Ah, you know, probably. And then, then the upcharge on the part, you know, we can't, we can't hand out free parts and so I should probably left leaving probably. Good, good. Hefty. Four or five. Six hundred dollar bill.

[Charlie]

Wow.

[Miles]

Wow.

[Charlie]

I got a question.

[Miles]

We just got a master class on how to, how to jack up the bill as a mechanic.

[Charlie]

And what I got out of that was slow car lift.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

The slower the car lift, the more time it takes.

[Joe]

Ah, yeah, yeah. No, 100. The older, the slower you Know you don't. I mean, we got all brand new stuff. I don't mean to toot my own horn over here, but.

[Miles]

Well, yeah, when you're charging 600 bucks for something like that, you better have all brand new stuff.

[Charlie]

You gotta do something. You gotta do something to offset the taxes.

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah, just bat an eye at that, you know, but no, we.

[Charlie]

Are you on some of Oregon's finest edibles right now, Joe?

[Joe]

Yeah, the edibles get me a little too far, so I partake in the. More medicinal oils, I guess you can say.

[Charlie]

Okay. Okay.

[Joe]

Well, it's legal. It's a fair state. It's green, you know, it's all good.

[Charlie]

Yeah, no judgment here. That's the joking Joe Strand that he's on. Hey.

[Joe]

Oh, heck. Yeah.

[Charlie]

What's the weirdest thing you've ever seen come through that jiffy?

[Joe]

Oh, man. Well, we had this kid. I'll be honest, he was a kid. He. He got his exhaust done.

[Miles]

Because I don't like the start of that story. Gotta be honest. He was a kid. I don't love this. Sounds like you're going to jail for.

[Joe]

Like younger than me, man. Younger than me. It's just a. It's a. It's a phrase. I'll. He was. He was an 18 year old man and he came in with this ricey, spicy exhaust on his little, you know, 2012 Acura. Trying to sound like, you know, a little sleep. Sleep drag racers that go zero to 60 too slow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And all that dumb stuff.

[Miles]

Yeah. Got one of those guys in my neighborhood.

[Charlie]

Do you?

[Miles]

Yeah. Every time it happens, someone throws in the. The neighbor ring doorbell app. Did anyone hear gunshots?

[Charlie]

Gunshots or bad muffler.

[Joe]

The local Facebook group just starts going off on your block, you know?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Joe]

No, no.

[Miles]

All right, so a miner walks into Jiffy Lube.

[Joe]

Yeah, sure. Let's leave it at that. Anyways, comes in, has an exhaust problem. His car is running like just. Can I kind of swear on here, I don't know, it's just running like dog. Let's just be honest. And he failed to inform us that he just got the exhaust done right before he showed up. And so trying to diag it saying they're like a vacuum leak or something. So we're looking all into it. And the shop before him. Oh, did the exhaust failed to hook up the O2 sensor properly. And it doesn't sound like a lot, but those are pretty vile to, you know, how the fuel and air ratio goes into the engine and how Much is coming out. And so basically it was under, fueling it over. Fueling it at the wrong times. And the kid had to go get his exhaust back and left. Kind of sad.

[Charlie]

I was thinking there'd be like a dead fox in there.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah, I forgot. We asked him for a crazy story. Yeah, I was like, I thought we were listening to a normal story.

[Joe]

Crazy to me that the kid, you know, didn't see all that. But no crazy stuff. Yeah, I've seen some dead animals and cars. Not here at Jiffy Lube, but the previous mechanically inclined jobs I've been on, I've seen some pretty hairy stuff. Stuff I didn't really care to see. I found dead cat once above a Cadillac converter. A little play on words there too. But no, it was, yeah, she, she was burnt. She was toasty. I'll be honest.

[Charlie]

Cassin Pepper?

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, they got nine lives, but I think it took all eight. Something like that.

[Charlie]

So what, what's your problem working at Jiffy Lube?

[Joe]

All right, so I'm a shorter fellow. I'm a, what they call a little person. Hate that thing. But, you know, I'm a little person. And some of these, I mean, yeah, I fit in great places, man. All right. Yeah. You know, crawl right under a car. Don't need a lift half the time, but other times, man, I don't got the reach that most people do. And so I'm trying to, trying to unscrew a bolt that's on the back of the engine bay, man. And I am diving, I'm cave diving for that. And my coworker comes up and reaches over the fender. Well, as I'm halfway on the radiator and reaches over that fender well, and pops right out. It's just crazy to me.

[Charlie]

It's not fair.

[Joe]

Oh, it never is. Never fair. It never is, man. Short end of the stick right here, man.

[Charlie]

Quite literally. How tall are you?

[Joe]

Ah, four foot, seven. Coming in at a four foot. So that's, that's tall for midgets or little people or whatever you guys call them.

[Miles]

Whatever we call them, I don't think. I think you call them whatever you want.

[Joe]

Yeah, no, I, I, I call midgets. I think the word little person is quite degrading, honestly.

[Miles]

Yeah. So personal opinion in the little person world.

[Charlie]

He just said he thought it was degrading.

[Miles]

Okay, well, what do you want me to. What do you want me to.

[Charlie]

Yeah, go ahead, say it.

[Joe]

Just say the hard N word, dude. World, dude. Heck yeah.

[Miles]

So in the midget oh, my.

[Charlie]

I can't believe you said that.

[Miles]

Dude, he just told me to say it.

[Charlie]

For all we know, he's six, eight.

[Miles]

He told me to say this. In the midget world, you're tall, you're saying. So do you have. Do you have, like a subculture where, like, you know, people that are taller, like Charlie and I with. There's us, you know, we're what, six, two, six, four, you know, lucky sons of guns where we have short kings. Right?

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So is there short kings in the midget world?

[Joe]

No, they're just really short.

[Charlie]

Really short.

[Miles]

So what? Yeah, like, once you get. What's the height where you're like, wow, you are even short for us, you know?

[Joe]

Oh, like four foot. Like four foot and below. It's like, oh, I'm sorry. All right.

[Charlie]

You got the best one. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that is interesting. What's. What's the dating scene like?

[Joe]

Oh, rough, I guess. I. I don't know. I got a taste. So, like, you know, I like. I like them shorter, but I don't mind them tall and fine, you know what I mean? It's like a glass of wine just goes down the same.

[Miles]

He likes them tall, like four, eight, you know.

[Joe]

Five, two. Come on now.

[Miles]

Okay. Yeah, she's got to be at least.

[Joe]

Like, able to get out of the freezer for me. Come on.

[Charlie]

What's the tallest gal you've dated?

[Joe]

Six, three.

[Charlie]

Nice, dude.

[Joe]

Yeah. Yeah, that was.

[Charlie]

How'd that work out?

[Joe]

That was a lot of work. A lot of work.

[Charlie]

Why?

[Miles]

Just because. Just a lot of up and down on the step stool or what?

[Joe]

Yeah, poor old back. You know, every time she had a lean in for a smooch, it would sound like a bag of Rice Krispies going in milk.

[Charlie]

Help me explain that analogy right there. What's he talking about?

[Joe]

Snap, crackle, pop.

[Miles]

Snap, crackle, pop.

[Charlie]

Oh, the back.

[Miles]

You got to be pretty good at climbing, though. If you want to kiss, you just, you know, chalk up the old hands and head on up to the peak and get a little smooch, stretch.

[Joe]

Do a little stretch before, you know. Yeah, get those glutes and hammies warmed up and then all on up there, I guess.

[Charlie]

You guys serious gal right now?

[Joe]

No, not really. I just kind of. I'm young. I'm 24, almost 25, so I'm still kind of, you know, messing around, seeing what I like, what I don't, you know.

[Charlie]

Yeah, good for you, playing the field.

[Joe]

Yeah, exactly. You know, you gotta step back and see what kind of fish you like, you know.

[Charlie]

Exactly, Exactly. Yeah.

[Joe]

You don't want to be fishing for trout all your life when, you know, there's, you know, salmon, you know.

[Charlie]

Sure. Or perch.

[Joe]

Oh, birch.

[Miles]

Oh.

[Joe]

Oh. I will tell you one thing. Ah, Oregon. We don't have pull tabs here, right? Never. Never really messed with the pull tab. Life moved closer to Idaho. They got pull tabs. Severely disappointed. Severely disappointed.

[Charlie]

Why?

[Joe]

I bought. I bought a stack, dude, thinking I'm gonna, you know, hit big. I'm not a gambling man either. I bought like a good, good stack. Like it looks big in my hand, so.

[Miles]

So he bought four pull tabs.

[Charlie]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Let's call it a. I had two handfuls. All right.

[Miles]

Eight pull tabs.

[Joe]

The most satisfying thing from the pull tab was the crisp rip.

[Charlie]

Oh, yeah.

[Joe]

Of each tab, you know, but they're all losers. I might have to try my luck next paycheck.

[Miles]

Yeah, I mean, let's refer. You said gambling. It's not gambling, it's investing. Let's remind you of that. Okay.

[Charlie]

Sometimes we're FDIC complied to tell you that.

[Joe]

At least you tell me.

[Miles]

And it's. You're playing the long game. You know, you invest in the S P500. If you look at it after one day, you're not going to be very, very happy. So.

[Charlie]

But over the years, this is a 30 year commitment.

[Miles]

It's actually, if you put it on the graph, pull tab investing and the S P500 kind of mirror each other over, you know, extended period of time. And every seven years, your money doubles due to compounding interest in the pull tab investing game. So just a little tidbit I picked up along the way. And so remember that this is a marathon, not a sprint.

[Charlie]

I'm just glad we have financial advice on this podcast too.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Charlie]

Okay.

[Joe]

So pull tabs investment, not a lost.

[Charlie]

No, not at all.

[Joe]

Ever. All right, good to know. I've seen, I've seen the one where he won 777.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlie]

That was a nice day.

[Miles]

That was a good day.

[Joe]

Cool. Yeah, I'm sure the bar was happy too.

[Charlie]

We tipped them. We tipped them. Good.

[Joe]

Oh, that's good. You've got to keep your bartenders happy. That's. That's more important than pull tabs sometimes.

[Charlie]

Absolutely. So you're aside for just having a long way to reach, you're fine with your job?

[Joe]

Yeah. Other than that. Yeah. I mean, no, it's a job. No one loves their job. But I mean, unless you have a really cool job and you might love your Job. But this is just. This is just mechanics. It's nothing. Nothing to really toot your own horn at. Well, but yeah, I guess. I guess I'll take that. I'll toot my own horn. Well, no, it's. It's mechanics. So it's just. Everything's really just kind of when you look at it.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The newer the rigs, the shittier the problems. The older the rigs, the. The messier the problems, you know, so.

[Miles]

Yeah, and that's just the nuts and bolts of the whole situation, you know?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. And screws. Stupid clips that break that you got to replace every time you pull them out of a hole.

[Charlie]

Gosh darn it.

[Joe]

Plastic tip. I don't know. Have you ever. You ever messed with like those little plastic tab clippy things that hold your bumper down and all that stupid stuff? You gotta. Yeah, flathead screwdriver on there. Those things suck. I want to know. I want to know the guy who invented those and stand on a stool and have an eye to eye conversation with him.

[Charlie]

You're talking about. You're talking about on the bumper, like to that clip your bumper together? Is that what you're talking about?

[Joe]

Well, yeah, like. Like on the top or like open your hood right by your radiator. He's like circle push tab things with all these, like. Like have barbs, I guess you could call them. They go in there and they hold in place and when you want them out, you gotta either break them or, I don't know, spend 40 minutes per clip.

[Charlie]

It's called planned obsolescence right there. So you just gotta buy more stuff at wholesale from the Jiffy Loop. You know those Jiffy Loops?

[Miles]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know why you're bitching if you're getting paid by the hour. I mean, that sounds like a mechanic's wet dream.

[Joe]

Oh, we get paid by the hour, but we got quotes. We got a quota to make, like jobs. An hour and a half. On paper, I take three hours. That's just.

[Miles]

Okay, well, that's your guys's mistake. You gotta bill after you do the work.

[Joe]

Oh, man, I wish it was that easy.

[Miles]

Oh, just every single day. Be like, our bid guy is. Our bid guy is out for the day. So I could start working on it now. We can just get you the. The price when you come in. You know, it's. We'll bar.

[Joe]

Ballpark it when he gets back.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah. And then just start working on it and then just pay. They'll have to pay. Whatever.

[Charlie]

That's how you just increase your customer service people at the Jiffy Lube. Because people are gonna be coming in.

[Miles]

Also, why am I giving them more ammo? What am I doing?

[Charlie]

Yeah, I don't know. What, what's the most, what, what, what thing there do you guys overcharge for the most? Is it the air filters or the oil change?

[Paige]

Oh, God.

[Joe]

Probably the oil change. I'll be frank.

[Charlie]

What's that go mad hours.

[Joe]

Say again?

[Charlie]

What's it go for these days? No oil change.

[Joe]

Oh, well, for me, I, I, I get it at cost because work there. But for folks like you, it's probably like 140 out the door.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

For just an oil change. And then if you want to top off your rear diff or if you got a transfer case or if anything like that, that just honestly quickly adds up. Nicer the car, the more expensive the oil. And you need a nicer filter for the nicer cars. So like Mercedes and stuff like that, you're looking at like, like 250, 260 out the door. For just an oil change.

[Charlie]

Yeah, yeah, I, oil changes in that hard, you know.

[Joe]

No, no, they're very simple. You just, you know, you gotta do it, you know, lay on your back, reach up there and twist a couple things. Twist it back. It's really, really simple. Man. I don't, don't quite know why people pay us to do it.

[Miles]

I, I gotta maybe question that. You don't have to answer if you don't like.

[Charlie]

I think I know where this is.

[Miles]

Going is you is your worst nightmare. A guy that rolls up with a giant lifted truck.

[Joe]

Oh yeah. Yep. I must admit, my boss ain't much taller than me. And we both each give each other a look like, yeah, this is going to be a, it's going to be a stool operation.

[Charlie]

Who's going on whose shoulders.

[Joe]

Exactly?

[Miles]

Yeah, I put the trench coat on.

[Joe]

I carried you. I carried you last time.

[Charlie]

You guys. Little rascals.

[Miles]

They're working on it. Bring me to the left. Left? No, my left.

[Charlie]

He standed backwards.

[Miles]

I mean, they call it Jiffy Lube for a reason.

[Joe]

Oh boy. All right, fellers. My word.

[Charlie]

Hey, quick question. All right, so what could be going. If the power steering goes out, is that usually just a fluid refill or is that probably a leak in the, in the fluid?

[Joe]

Well, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll still see signs if it's a leak, it'll start squealing and whining if it's a leak. But if it just goes like from power steering to zilch, not a kaput flat. Yeah, that's probably bad. Power steering pump. I'd check your belts too at that point because if you're. If your pump seized up, you could have worn a thin spot in your belt or you know, stuff like that. They don't usually seize. They just stop pumping.

[Charlie]

Okay, what's. What do you think the cost is on that? Just knowing that, oh man, power steering.

[Joe]

Pump'S probably gonna run you about 120 part wise and then throw that in about probably an hour and a half, two hour job. And we charge about 150 man hour. So you're probably in it over. Over about 500 bucks definitely. For sure.

[Charlie]

Got it, Randon.

[Joe]

Just I don't know how your guys's rates are over there. What's your guys's minimum wage look like?

[Charlie]

What's our minimum wage look like?

[Joe]

Yeah, yeah. Cost of living and stuff out there.

[Charlie]

Well, we're in Fargo right now, so it's probably better than Oregon. Oregon?

[Miles]

You guys better?

[Charlie]

Yeah. You guys are probably. What is minimum wage in Oregon? Like 20 bucks an hour.

[Joe]

1175.

[Charlie]

1175.

[Miles]

Gotta be close.

[Charlie]

In Wisconsin, I think it's still like 725.

[Joe]

Oh, really? That's.

[Miles]

What, Idaho.

[Joe]

Same.

[Miles]

Same in North Dakota.

[Charlie]

Same here. Yeah. That's crazy. That's like what it was when I was working still.

[Joe]

That is nuts. I remember my first job. I was getting paid six an hour.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I was getting, I think. What year was that?

[Joe]

Oh, probably like 2010. 2012.

[Charlie]

2010. Yeah, yeah. It hasn't gone up much. I think I started was like 5. 25 an hour.

[Joe]

Oh, wow. Yeah. That's crazy. Well, yeah, old timer.

[Charlie]

I didn't say old timer, Joe. I said older. Okay, okay, okay.

[Miles]

You are more than a decade older than him. I'm almost a decade older than him. I'm almost a decade older than you are, Miles.

[Charlie]

Be careful about all the you talk about me because in two years, that's pretty.

[Miles]

You'll still be that much older than me.

[Charlie]

Well, you're gonna be dealing with all the problems. When we first met, Miles was like, you're. You're 30.

[Joe]

Man.

[Charlie]

And now how old are you, Miles?

[Miles]

32.

[Charlie]

32.

[Joe]

Oh, wow. Really puts things into perspective, huh, Miles?

[Miles]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joe]

I gotta step back and look at the bigger picture, you know? Yeah.

[Miles]

It just turns out that the sun comes up every day and you get older just finding that out.

[Charlie]

Time flies like a banana.

[Joe]

Oh. Especially when you're having fun yeah, well.

[Miles]

We appreciate you calling us Jiffy Lube, Joe.

[Joe]

Well, thank you very much, Miles. And it was great to talk to you guys. Miles and Charlie and. Heck of a. Heck of a. Heck of a time. We'll have to catch up again someday. I'll let you know when the problems get worse at Jiffy Lube. I just. I just started there, like, probably about a month ago.

[Miles]

He made it sound like he's been a career guy there. I know, like, 18 years old at the Loop.

[Joe]

I've had, like, probably. Probably 15, 20 years plus of experience involved now. 15, let's be honest.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The twisting wrenches. Since, like, elementary school, so still my.

[Miles]

Favorite way to talk about a mechanic. Twisting wrenches.

[Joe]

Oh, it's a. It's a good, Good term. I love it.

[Charlie]

Twisting wrenches and kissing babies.

[Miles]

We need a term for that. For podcasting.

[Charlie]

Twisting mic cords.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Joe]

No, that doesn't have a ring to it.

[Charlie]

Mac and microphones.

[Joe]

Oh, could. Could give the wrong vibe.

[Miles]

Okay. You're doing the reverse cowgirl with your boss while you're fixing a lifted truck, so don't even.

[Joe]

I never admitted to that. Come on. All right, man.

[Miles]

Well, thanks for calling in.

[Joe]

Have a good one.

[Miles]

You, too, man.

[Joe]

Thank you.

[Charlie]

We'll see you soon now.

[Joe]

All right, sweet. Catch you later.

[Paige]

Bye.

[Charlie]

Bye.

[Miles]

Did I just get peer pressured into saying.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I think I did.

[Miles]

Yeah. That you really got canceled. That got away for.

[Charlie]

Again, canceled.

[Miles]

Did he say. You go ahead and say it. Use the hard M is how he said.

[Charlie]

All I know is that when this comes out and Joe retweets it and his Twitter account, it's just him and he's a 6.5stud. And you're just done with your career.

[Miles]

Then I'm screwed. Yeah, but whatever. Yeah, I had a good run. I'll go work concrete again.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Pouring slabs and kissing babies.

[Miles]

My own baby. That's it.

[Charlie]

That's it. Kissing a baby. It's probably better that way.

[Miles]

Well, Charlie. Well, Miles, do we got a voicemail or. Yeah, we can run a voicemail.

[Charlie]

Let's do a voicemail. Yeah. Yeah.

[Miles]

And I will raise you up on an eagle's wings. I got the voicemail, guys.

[Charlie]

Okay.

[Joe]

All right, guys, I have to. Great idea. So my name is Gannon. I'm 20 years old. Amazing idea. Okay. Instead of the Olympics, the construction Olympics. Okay? So just hear me out. Hear me out.

[Paige]

Okay?

[Joe]

One of the events are going to be shooting a nail gun at, like, soda can pop. I don't know how far, but something like that. All right? The one that can throw like a center block the fur. This just stupid like that. Or we could have actual ones like first one to put up scaffolding. Or like how high you can do it so fast. I don't know. But I think it'd be a funny ass idea.

[Charlie]

That's great. I agree that like the pentathlon with a nail gun would be aw. Like we should do that next winter.

[Miles]

You got a nail gun attached to.

[Charlie]

Your back instead of a 22 on skis. Someone's behind with the compressor, you know.

[Miles]

Well no, you have to carry a sled with the compressor.

[Charlie]

Yeah, that'd be great.

[Miles]

We used to do actually made up our own little game. So if you got a framers hammer, they have a little magnet on the top where you put the nail on the thing you can't reach. You stick it and then hammer it.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

We used to draw a circle on a panel. You put the nail on there and then you spin it. Kind of like throwing axes.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And then you gotta try and hit the nail will stick into the panel.

[Charlie]

Oh.

[Miles]

And you try and get as close to the center as possible. My dad didn't love it. You know, he was kind of like, that's a big waste of nails.

[Charlie]

Do you guys know how much those nails are? I was on, I was on the phone with my dad. I'm redoing this doc. And my dad was telling me because I got pull out the old panels, put out the other one. He left me this voicemail that was like two minutes long. And I would. Minute 30 was talking about how expensive each of the screws was. He said, now listen, those are good screws. It's about 75 cents a screw. So if you look at that, that's 75 cents times four per panel. Four. That's about 16 down. He was doing the math in the head and he was like, you added all that up? That that's. That's about $500 in screws. So what I'm telling you is unscrew me easy. I don't need you breaking those things. And it was.

[Miles]

He didn't even buy them. No, he was just like, I don't want to have to replace them.

[Charlie]

These are the screws currently in the deal. And he wanted to make sure they did not get broken. He's like, you set your torque to the right, right amount. Because I read online that these things can break. I'm not sure why they can break if they're 75. But he was just going on and on about it.

[Miles]

I just couldn't imagine being that worried about it.

[Charlie]

He brought it up four other times.

[Miles]

But then he looked up that type of screw to find out.

[Charlie]

Yeah. I think he talked to the guy and he said, what about the screws? And the guy told him how much the screws were, and he kind of lost his mind a little bit. So he wanted to make sure. And I'll tell you this much, it worked. Guess how many screws I broke? I lost about 5, though, which is not good. That's not good. That's about three.

[Miles]

You just went and replaced it. You didn't tell him?

[Charlie]

No, no, I went and bought a pack. And they were expensive, dude. They were expensive.

[Miles]

Yeah. I think you could mix real competitions with some of those competitions. Right. Like a great competition in the Construction Olympics that you just said is you have to get very vague directions from the boss.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And then you just have to try and figure out what he meant by it and build something. And then at the end, they're like, you either did it right or you didn't do it right.

[Charlie]

Huh? Oh, I like that.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So go to the job site. So you start at the shop, right? This is the competition.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

All right. The job site is south of Costco, and that's all you get. So now you're just driving around somewhere. Somewhere south of Costco. And then we. You get there, he's just like, I want you to put the. The. The doohickey together and then finish the garage. And, you know, we got, you know, mud coming at in the afternoon, so.

[Charlie]

Look out for that.

[Miles]

So it's just you now have to get the project done with the limited direction, and.

[Charlie]

And you rate it on a scale of. All right. And what the.

[Miles]

I gotta do everything around here. I thought I told you it was clear, you know, you get that you failed, but if you get. Because. Because it's not going to be. You did a good job. It's gonna be. Well, took you long enough, right? Something like that.

[Charlie]

You get a good job, the next thing you want is a raise. Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

[Miles]

That's true. To get an atta boy on a construction site, and it would happen once in a while. My dad come by, he's like, oh, you know, nice work. And they'd leave, and we'd all be like, no way. You got an atta boy. Damn it.

[Charlie]

How did. How did your dad treat you on the construction site versus the rest of his employees?

[Miles]

A lot of head shaking.

[Charlie]

Was he intentionally harder on you than his employees?

[Miles]

I wouldn't say that. No, I think he was.

[Charlie]

Was he easier on you?

[Miles]

In terms of when I would show up, yes.

[Charlie]

Oh, you were late.

[Miles]

Yeah, I mean, well, so in the summer, sometimes we'd have, like, workouts in the morning. So you'd show up after the workout.

[Charlie]

Oh, I gotcha.

[Miles]

But the one time that he was not lenient on it, right before I would go back to school, we'd start fall camp for football. And so, of course, this was our last hurrah before we'd have practice every single day. So during the week, it was like a Thursday. We would have party. We all got thoroughly intoxicated. And I showed up to the job site at like 10am and he was in the hole. Oh, with his tool belt on. Oh, no, that's not a good sign.

[Charlie]

What did he say?

[Miles]

He's just hovering over my shoulder the whole day, just, you know, critiquing my work, all of that stuff. And he was very, very mad.

[Charlie]

Do you earn your license? No. What was your nickname again?

[Miles]

Mills.

[Charlie]

Mills Moose.

[Miles]

Yeah. There's one guy, that's how you'd say my name. Instead of saying Miles, he was going, moses.

[Charlie]

We got Mills over here.

[Miles]

So.

[Charlie]

Yeah, that. That'd be a good video. That's a video I'd say we should do. You certainly should do it.

[Miles]

What is the title of the video?

[Charlie]

Construction Worker Olympics. Oh.

[Miles]

Oh, I thought you talked about my dad breathing over my shoulder.

[Charlie]

Oh, no, that could be a fun video too.

[Miles]

When the boss actually does work. That's actually the video idea. Everyone's just on edge, you know? They're like, oh, my God. God, it's happening.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I can't. I. I don't like confrontation.

[Miles]

Well, Charlie, is that another good episode of the Bellied up podcast?

[Charlie]

Go ahead and say, great episode, Miles.

[Miles]

Me too. Yeah. Well, guys, thanks for tuning in to another episode.

[Charlie]

And wait, we gotta shout out where we are.

[Miles]

We're at CJ's Tavern here in Fargo, North Dakota. They're on a golf course, so if you go hit the links, it's just.

[Charlie]

The Rosebud Golf course. What's it called?

[Miles]

Rose Creek.

[Charlie]

Wow. Close enough.

[Miles]

A public course in Fargo. So anyone just swing on through, hit smalls, then come have a couple brews afterwards.

[Charlie]

Public course. This is where people like me play golf.

[Miles]

Oh, my God.

[Charlie]

This is where the peasants come. Right, Miles? Right. The proletariat. Anyways, maybe I'll get an invite again to the bourgeois. But until that day, tip your bartender. Tip your bartender.

[Joe]

Okay. Hope you guys Have a good one. Goodbye now.

[Paige]

Toodaloo.